#soylent | Logs for 2021-02-02
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[23:54:02] <systemd> ^ 03How are Newsmax and OAN coping without Trump in the White House?
[23:54:00] <c0lo> https://www.independent.co.uk
[23:52:02] <systemd> ^ 03Blossom's Fake Video Exposed by food scientist
[23:52:00] <FatPhil> Wrong? or AWESOME!!!! (you'll know which bit when you get to it): https://www.youtube.com
[23:18:48] <chromas> Why have several points of failure when you can bundle them all together? less is more!
[23:18:14] <chromas> New idea! service-as-a-service! You just sign up with us, put all your x-as-a-service info into our buttcloud and we'll make the api calls whenever you do
[23:17:21] <chromas> compiler-as-a-service
[23:09:38] <chromas> that way you can compile-by-rest
[23:08:52] * FatPhil installs systemd-gccd
[23:08:37] <FatPhil> and a webserver to the compiler
[23:08:33] <chromas> c 2021, now with html
[23:08:21] <chromas> FatPhil: nonsense! just add html to the spec
[23:08:05] <systemd> https://gist.github.com - A 99 bottles polyglot in 4 languages (C, C++, C#, HTML+JS) which ...
[23:08:04] <FatPhil> =g polyglot c html
[23:07:52] <FatPhil> Challenge - create some #defines so that the HTML is compilable C
[23:07:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Jeff Bezos to Stand Down as CEO of Amazon Later in 2021 - https://sylnt.us
[23:07:10] <FatPhil> ah, yeah, I saw a pastebin-alike do that recently, really annoying
[22:58:29] <chromas> I'm sure they do it in a silly way. If you save the page in source view then it saves an html representation of the syntax-highlighted source
[22:55:25] <FatPhil> I also once saw that implemented using rows, such that if you wanted to copy the source code, you also copied the line numbers too.
[22:54:50] <FatPhil> I once saw that implemented using columns, but with different fonts for the numbers and the lines, so gradually they ran out of sync.
[22:53:44] <chromas> oh firefox is really smart. when I do a search in the source code, it helpfully includes the line numbers in the gutter in the search hits
[22:52:20] <chromas> 2,797,500.00 Bolívars
[22:51:33] <chromas> Need to run current Firefox inside a systemd container
[22:49:52] <FatPhil> yeah, still doesn't work, even with maximum JS bumrape.
[22:47:18] <systemd> https://www.bloomberg.com - Bloomberg Venezuela Café Con Leche Inflation Index
[22:47:17] <FatPhil> =g bloomberg caffe con leche index
[22:47:06] <FatPhil> hmm, I've not checked the caffe con leche index recently - their JS stopped working in my browser a while back
[22:46:32] <FatPhil> or just introduce novadollars at million-to-one when the prices start to explode
[22:28:06] <Bender> karma - chromas: 332
[22:28:06] <FatPhil> chromas++ 4SN9vid
[22:20:25] <chromas> But who will be put on the teradollar bill?
[22:20:12] <chromas> Instead of numbers, the money can just have the prefix initial on it
[22:19:21] <chromas> instead of $1,000 for a pack of gum, now it's only a kilobuck!
[22:18:46] <chromas> metric prefixes
[22:18:37] <chromas> I found the best solution to deal with inflation
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[20:35:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Family Photo Snapped by Solar Orbiter Shows Venus, Earth and Mars Gleaming Like Stars - https://sylnt.us
[20:32:24] <Bytram> looks like one engine misfired?
[20:32:23] <chromas> probably shouldn't've waited 'til the last second to flip it
[20:31:59] <Bytram> boom!
[20:31:54] <chromas> whoops
[20:31:26] <Bytram> can you imagine being *on* that thing?
[20:29:26] <Bytram> that did not look good
[20:28:14] <Bytram> looks like something is burning on the edge
[20:27:33] <chromas> gotta black out the nozzles
[20:23:39] <Bytram> Innsprucker!
[20:22:58] <Bender> karma - chromas: 331
[20:22:58] <Bytram> chromas++ tyvm!!!!!!!!!
[20:22:07] <systemd> ^ 03Starship | SN9 | High-Altitude Flight Test
[20:22:05] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[20:20:48] <Bytram> If anyone finds a *spacex* live feed, please ping me with a link
[20:20:17] <systemd> ^ 03LIVE: Starship SN9 Flight Test
[20:20:15] <Bytram> https://www.youtube.com
[20:11:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> no idea. i only really know what i know cause i couldn't keep The Roomie from blabbering enough of it at me that some of it sunk in
[19:32:27] <pinchy> did the jesuits fix the problem with the price?
[19:32:04] <pinchy> so whats the status of gamestock stonk?
[19:24:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> buy or sell. never short and stay the fuck off the margin.
[19:23:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> that'll learn em
[19:22:47] <FatPhil> so those who went in at 359$ will have seen ~70% of their "investment" evaporate
[19:22:09] <FatPhil> I did see one analysis that implied a lot of the AoR were hit with margin calls as the price dropped, which caused the price to drop more, and cause more margin calls...
[19:10:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> gambling once is enough. if you add another meta gamble to your primary bet, you are a fucking moron and deserve to end up at the bus station begging change.
[19:08:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> about teaching fuckers who bet money they don't have or take out loans to make bets some common sense?
[19:07:23] <FatPhil> Is it a message about market manipulation? About fucking over hedge funds? Who knows...
[19:06:42] <FatPhil> Reddit's "Army of Retards" = Traders modify traders
[19:06:32] <FatPhil> I haven't got a fucking clue what this anagram means, I just find it a bit spooky...
[18:45:54] <FatPhil> have a pigs_in_space cron job that mails people responsible for hogging disk space.
[18:21:16] <Bytram> Hmm, I'm starting to think that there may have been a space crunch and *I* may have deleted them!
[18:08:28] <Bytram> break time
[18:08:19] <Bytram> was just wondering if anyone knew anything about it; that's all
[18:07:44] <Bytram> So, even if I wanted to D/L them locally, seeing as I have a dynamic IPv4 addy, it would have taken some coordination to get to happen.
[18:06:31] <Bytram> nod nod
[18:06:22] <Bytram> It it's gone, it's gone, I've not read any of them yet, but then again AG? MJ? put up some major bandwidth filters/limits a few months or so later
[18:06:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't monkey with other folks' home directories, just tell them when they're too full
[18:05:52] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[18:04:25] <SedBot> <Bytram> it was a D/L of the "World of IF" archive from the Internet Archive... prior to several issues being removed at request of certain authors.
[18:04:25] <Bytram> s/B/D/
[18:04:17] <Bytram> it was a B/L of the "World of IF" archive from the Internet Archive... prior to several issues being removed at request of certain authors.
[18:03:20] <Bytram> At least I don't recall trying to find another server to put 'em
[18:02:59] <Bytram> I would guess boron?
[18:02:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> which server
[18:00:36] <Bytram> could ave been a few gigs, I don't really recall
[17:59:24] <Bytram> BTW, i had a whole dir of files on my user acct that seemed to have disappeared?
[17:59:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> saves just a little bit of space
[17:58:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think we should prolly move to xz for those db backups
[17:58:28] <Bytram> yeah
[17:58:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 63M Feb 2 15:33 beryllium-2021-01-31.sql.xz
[17:58:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1.4G Jan 31 01:04 beryllium-2021-01-31.sql.gz
[17:58:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 354M Feb 2 15:55 beryllium-2021-01-31.sql.bz2
[17:58:00] <systemd> ^ 03After flying without a waiver, SpaceX gets FAA permit for SN9 launch [Updated]
[17:57:59] <Bytram> https://arstechnica.com
[17:57:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> well, i found one culprit for space wasting:
[17:56:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Elon Musk’s SpaceX Announces a Spaceflight Intended to Raise Money for St. Jude Hospital - https://sylnt.us
[17:55:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> really should be moving to gold though, what with them printing money like crazy last year and biden promising to give so much more away this year.
[17:54:34] <Bytram> yep
[17:53:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> whole market ftw. it isn't always up but it's about as conservative as you can find short of just sticking it in a bank.
[17:52:40] <Bytram> from what I've seen (history... blah blah not blah future results) index funds over a variety of areas (Small Cap, Large Cap, etc.) seems best.
[17:52:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup. all the folks wanting government money are gonna be disappointed by how they're so much worse off a year from now on account of their dollars not being worth nearly as much.
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[17:51:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, seriously, i don't really do gambling. i'll do index funds and shove some in precious metals that i don't plan on selling for a long, long time but that's about it for me.
[17:50:52] <Bytram> but seriously, the way the fed has been doing QE and printing money, it's depreciating every day.
[17:50:15] <Bytram> hope it's firm
[17:49:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> mattress
[17:49:26] <Bytram> Agreed, except are all your retirement funds sitting in the bank? Cash? Or is there some exposure in a 401K? IRA? KEOGH?
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[17:49:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> gives me a chuckle to see hedge funds sitting up there like only they can steer the market and then seeing reddit say "hold my beer"
[17:47:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> i really don't give two shits who wins or loses in the market, so long as nobody gets cheated. it's gambling, you'd better go in expecting that losing money is a possibility or not go in at all.
[17:45:35] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Kung Fu series clip Grasshopper remembers (02:34; 26,675 views; 👍176 👎5)
[17:45:34] <Bytram> =yt patience grasshopper -star
[17:45:17] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Patience Young Grasshopper Quote Origin - Star Wars? or Kung Fu? (02:52; 35,083 views; 👍83 👎36)
[17:45:16] <Bytram> =yt patience grasshopper
[17:45:05] <Bytram> "more will be revealed" or...
[17:43:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, idgaf if the brokers and hedge funds who got fucked on their short positions lost money and the SEC is already investigating them for stopping/limiting trading on certain stocks. damned fine life lesson for the brokers and hedge funds, i'd say.
[17:34:50] <Bytram> ;^)
[17:34:45] <Bytram> Yeah? I wish!
[17:34:30] <Booga1> It's an old joke, probably dates back to the concept of genies with wishes.
[17:33:53] <Bytram> sadly, we don't have a lock on that concept! Others have used it, too!
[17:33:15] <Booga1> Hehehe, I have used that line about computers doing what you ask them to do instead of what you meant to do a few times.
[17:31:52] * Bytram got burned a few times learning that lesson the hard way
[17:31:32] <Bytram> But I didn't know you meant *that* is a, I hate to say it, "too bad, so sad"
[17:31:29] <Booga1> I think the brokerages are betting they'll lose less money in the inevitable class action lawsuits than they will on the market. They know they're fucked, but had to pick between breaking the law or taking their lumps.
[17:31:22] <Bytram> But I didn't now you meant *that* is a, I hate to say it, "too bad, so sad"
[17:30:21] <Bytram> like I said, to meet regulatory/statutory/legal/etc. requirements/regulations/etc.
[17:29:27] * Bytram never invested without reading the *entire* prospectus.
[17:29:26] <Booga1> Boilerplate doesn't make something legal. If they can't point out the exact line of text that lets them sell other people's posessions, they should go to jail.
[17:28:36] <Bytram> Nope, not theft. I would VERY strongly suspect that there is standard boilerplate in the account agreement that specifically states those actions may happen... to fulfill legal or regulatory requirements or regulations
[17:28:04] <Booga1> If the exposure was a limit to affect things it should have come into play earlier: circuit breakers. It should have been market wide and the original transaction should not have been allowed. Forcible selling of positions shouldn't be a thing. If the brokerage can't cover it, they shouldn't allow it.
[17:26:15] <Bytram> "Computers are a pain. They do what you tell them to do, not what you want them to do!"
[17:25:25] <Bytram> or... at that time, the exposure exceeded some internal limit (extra leeway) and then there was no choice but to close out the position... there was no need to close it out if the stock was rising, right?
[17:22:21] <Booga1> I would never expect my brokerage to sell my stocks without asking me. That's theft, plain and simple.
[17:21:58] <Booga1> I presume it was a margin holding, but selling off your shares at the bottom price of the day is just pocketing the difference. I've seen my own brokerage do similar things where they give me my price but really sold the stock for a little bit more. It's annoying, but I got what I asked for.
[17:21:55] <Bytram> 2nds link appears to be the original tweet that sourced the first link.
[17:20:21] <Bytram> [from 1st link] (1) that was 4,500 shares, not 4,000. (2) Cannot tell if that stock was a margin purchase or how many shares they owned -- was that their entire holding or just a small fraction, or... (3) if so, RH may well have been required by regulations to unwinds some positions.
[17:17:40] <Booga1> "It now appears @RobinhoodApp is selling customers’ shares of Reddit stocks “to mitigate the risk” to their portfolios. This is unbelievable." https://pic.twitter.com — Sawyer Hackett (@SawyerHackett) January 28, 2021
[17:15:49] <Booga1> Forcibly sold off 4000+ shares at the bottom price of the day without permission.
[17:15:05] <Booga1> Someone posting screenshot of their account transaction history: https://i.imgur.com
[17:12:44] * Bytram had not seen that... do you have a link?
[17:12:03] <Booga1> Yes, I know, but forcing people to sell without allowing them to buy is flat out wrong. That's what the brokerages were doing.
[17:10:56] <Bytram> Ummm, that's what a short IS
[17:09:40] <Booga1> But yes....there are a lot of people who doubled down on shorting Gamestop. That stock was higher than anything reasonable would suggest, so why not predict its downfall?
[17:08:41] <Bytram> And even those who don't remember history can sometimes still foresee the upcoming SNAFU
[17:07:49] <Booga1> Those who remember history are force to watch people do dumb shit all over again.
[17:07:21] <Bytram> and those who remember history are perhaps best prepared to repeat those past excesses to take advantage of them again.
[17:06:19] <Bytram> yep...
[17:05:59] <Bytram> OTOH, I have decades' experience testing software and can vouch that bugs (aka "issues") appear at the edges and corners
[17:05:43] <Booga1> Indeed, there are quite a few things put in due to past crashes that were undone. I remember comments like, "We have learned from our mistakes" then we just go ahead and repeat them. Those mistakes aren't tied to a single event. We put the rules in because we know the results already.
[17:04:42] <Bytram> Like you, I don't have the funds or the stomach for such volatility.
[17:04:06] <systemd> https://www.investopedia.com - Uptick Rule
[17:04:05] <Bytram> =g "Uptick rule"
[17:03:57] <Bytram> Also, note that the "uptick rule" -- instituted following the Great Depression -- was in place until relatively recently (past 10-15 years, IIRC)
[17:02:33] <systemd> ^ 03GameStop spikes 78% as retail-investor rebellion against short-sellers prompts trading halt
[17:02:31] <Bytram> https://www.msn.com
[17:02:03] <systemd> ^ 03Verge
[17:02:01] <systemd> ^ 03Access to this page has been denied.
[17:02:01] <Bytram> fwiw: https://www.investors.com AND https://www.theverge.com
[17:01:18] <Bytram> Agreed that investing rules should apply equally to all.
[16:54:00] <Booga1> If the brokerages put the same rules in for their institutional investors it would still be bad, but fair. It's the blatent mistreatement of the small investor that irks me. Rules should be rules for all, not "one rule for me, another for thee."
[16:52:48] <Booga1> Personally, I know I have no risk appetite for this stuff. I cannot afford to lose a few thousand on a roller coaster I can't control. I was never going to get on this ride, but seeing the manipulation in the open was disgusting.
[16:46:58] <Booga1> WSB did find a wrinkle and those circuit breakers apply to every stock on every brokerage firm's trading limits. If that circuit breaker kicked in we would have heard about every brokerage halting the trades completely. So far as I am aware, the circuit breakers don't allow single stock trades or trades only in a single direction(sell in GME's case).
[16:45:34] <Bytram> ugh, gtg for a bit. nice chatting with you!
[16:45:05] <Bytram> there are "circuit breakers" that get enacted for everyone when a stock's price exceeds certain pre-defined amounts
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[16:43:39] <Bytram> I can see how you see it that way, but I humbly disagree. Security laws and regulations are many and deep. And, sometimes, at seeming odds with each other. Devil is in the details. WSB thought they found a wrinkle, ran with it for a good run, and now it's over. Short interest has dropped below shares avail (was at 140%)
[16:43:16] <Booga1> Gamestop is on the way down. They're a failing company and the shorts were theoretically a "safe" bet until this whole thing went live. However, that's how the market goes. It is not always rational or financially backed by reality. Nobody gives refunds to little guys who lose their shirts. Nobody stops the market from trading when Joe Schmo makes a bad pick.
[16:40:45] <systemd> ^ 03AMD Caught In WallStreetBets Drama As Shady Robinhood Dares To Limit Trading
[16:40:43] <Booga1> They're also putting in some restrictions on financially solid companies like AMD: https://hothardware.com
[16:38:36] <Booga1> Yes, there are and several also put in trade restrictions. It stinks so bad that "the market" couldn't allow the risks they put up front for every stock trade. They'll let the little guy go bankrupt but can't let the big firms lose to the little guy.
[16:37:50] <Bytram> Bloomberg? Fidelity? Vanguard? They all had positions in the stock, too. Not just RH.
[16:36:29] <Bytram> Maybe there are more brokers than *just* RH?
[16:36:04] <Bytram> it's the net holding that RH had that put them over the limit. Since people were trying to but more GME, RH had to say "no" so as to maintain their capitalization
[16:35:54] <Booga1> Then why were the short sellers allowed to short 140% of all stock ever issued for Gamestop? Seems like another case of "rules only apply to the little people."
[16:34:56] <Bytram> that's following the law (something-Dowd?) which limits exposure vs capital
[16:34:39] <Booga1> Restriction on options and margins should be general and not specific to any particular stock.
[16:33:55] <Booga1> There's a lot of people defending them for not letting people get in over their heads, but that's hindsight rationalization of the restrictions.
[16:33:53] <Bytram> for interests of regulations and maintaining capital reserves, they needed to restrict additional, non-capitalized GME purchases
[16:32:55] <Bytram> that's buying on margin
[16:32:49] <Booga1> Any restrictions at all are pure market manipulation. If the little guy can't make the same transactions on one particular stock that they can on another, it's unquestionably market manipulation.
[16:32:38] <Bytram> (could be mistaken)
[16:32:29] <Bytram> i.e. Instantly open an account and start trading immediately
[16:31:51] <Bytram> AIUI, RobinHood defaults to letting customers but stocks without cash on hand ...
[16:31:07] <Bytram> "Tuesday’s drop came despite a loosening of restrictions on the amount of shares investors can buy using Robinhood Markets Inc. On Monday afternoon, the popular trading app started allowing users to purchase up to 20 shares of GameStop, up from a cap of one before the market opened."
[16:29:30] <Booga1> Sure, after they got their desired crash.
[16:29:04] <Bytram> Booga1: Read the article. It seems that RobinHood has loosened things up
[16:28:49] <Booga1> Some folks need some jail time for all their manipulation of the supposed "free market."
[16:28:18] <Booga1> So, what I'm hearing is that it's a great time to buy, but Robinhood and several other stock brokerage firms won't let you.
[16:26:25] <Bytram> Short it NOW!!11!eleventy!!!
[16:26:19] <Bytram> Short is NOW!!11!eleventy!!!
[16:25:52] <systemd> ^ 03GameStop stock fizzles 80% from last week’s spectacular highs
[16:25:50] <Bytram> https://www.aljazeera.com
[16:25:48] <Bytram> HTH!
[16:25:20] <Runaway1956> I may do so Bytram - but not this morning. Good ideas!
[16:20:46] <Bytram> Runaway1956: (1) Check each utility's web site to see if they parroted the announcement (i.e. they're on board) or (2) Call each one and ask or (3) Just call your utility and ask them !! =)
[15:33:40] <Runaway1956> I may go into shock when I jump from 15 mb to gb internets!
[15:33:00] <Runaway1956> Will the fiber be restricted to one, or to two of those monopolies, or will everyone get fiber?
[15:32:23] <Runaway1956> I see a complication that is not addressed in the article: Three different electric companies hold monopolies in the area
[15:29:25] <systemd> ^ 03REA will bring fiber net to Southwest Arkansas
[15:29:24] <Runaway1956> https://www.texarkanagazette.com
[15:29:19] <Runaway1956> Ooooh! I might actually see fiber before I'm too old and weak to sit in front of my computer!
[15:26:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Research Shows that Shorter Movie Release Windows Boost Revenue, Not Piracy - https://sylnt.us
[15:15:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> same. actually, think ima go do non-church-related work until nap time.
[15:14:01] <Bytram> break time
[15:13:55] <Bytram> ;)
[15:13:49] <Bytram> or do they have some other im pede ment?
[15:12:53] <Bytram> FatPhil: Soooo, what about... millipedes?
[15:11:36] <FatPhil> breath mints are useless for centipedes - they breathe through pores. You'd nead breathmint dust!
[15:09:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> in practice each box usually manages a few minutes of ass pain regardless
[15:08:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> in theory anyway
[15:08:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah but if you have one box acting as a binhost for all the rest, it's only a pain in the ass once.
[15:08:04] <AzumaHazuki> Gentoo is a giant pain in the ass, but i love it dearly anyway. it's a pain for all the right reasons if that makes sense
[15:07:55] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 414
[15:07:55] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++
[15:07:34] * Bytram chuckles
[15:07:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, we're currently building a replacement box for it on the gentoo base. just haven't had time to get all the shat working yet.
[15:07:21] <AzumaHazuki> smelled amazing for weeks though :D
[15:07:04] <AzumaHazuki> oh yeah, someone spilled a bottle of coke on the build server once. took out an entire small town
[15:07:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, breath mints for centipedes
[15:06:47] <Bytram> Centos... is that like a hundred Mentos breath mints?
[15:06:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> well, centos6 is ancient. it wasn't new when we started this place.
[15:06:09] <AzumaHazuki> then there's still void, artix, freebsd, openbsd, and if it comes to this, Linux From Scratch
[15:05:45] <requerdanos> I wouldn't predict gentoo's untimely demise either, so maybe you're next.
[15:05:35] <AzumaHazuki> at some point we may very well be facing a type of *nix apocalypse, and doing everything from source may be all that's left to us :(
[15:05:08] <AzumaHazuki> shit like this is why i stuck with gentoo
[15:04:59] <requerdanos> I wouldn't have predicted Centos' untimely demise, but here we are
[15:04:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't feel like building it from source. centos took down the repos for centos6, so no package management.
[15:04:08] <Bender> karma - requerdanos: 22
[15:04:08] <Bytram> requerdanos++
[15:04:03] <Bytram> =)
[15:03:56] <systemd> https://dev.yorhel.nl - NCurses Disk Usage
[15:03:55] <Bytram> =g ncdu
[15:03:05] <requerdanos> `ncdu` is your friend
[15:02:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> not sure what's hogging so much space and don't feel like spending forever hunting it down
[15:01:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> mostly it's because there's not room to build him on beryllium anymore and he won't build on any box not as ancient as beryllium until i update him to use libraries that use a modern ssl version.
[15:01:42] <Bytram> For future reference, when repair/update is possible, pls make a note of change request in #dev? Obliged.
[15:00:52] <Bytram> Oh, okay.
[15:00:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> reason is irrelevant. if he entirely broke, he'd just have to stay down.
[15:00:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> i know. but he currently cannot receive ANY updates
[14:58:36] <Bytram> is for simple formatting change in what is output for a story submission. See #dev
[14:54:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> he currently cannot receive updates
[14:53:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, almost certainly not for long, boring, and confusing reasons
[14:51:22] <requerdanos> heh it's so minor that it rates its own venue
[14:51:00] <Bytram> pls meet me in #dev
[14:50:36] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: while you're at it... can I request a minor update to MrPlow wrt story submissions?
[14:43:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> yarp
[14:42:36] <Bytram> TYVM!
[14:42:26] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 413
[14:42:26] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++ A quick, ad hoc test has not revealed any problems... YAY!
[14:23:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> say !rss-list all you like
[14:23:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, skittles = fixed
[14:06:56] <systemd> ^ 03Starship - We Built This City (Official Music Video)
[14:06:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[14:01:46] <systemd> https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com - Starship SN9 Test Launch Campaign - UPDATES
[14:01:45] <Bytram> =g Topic: Starship SN9 Test Launch Campaign - UPDATES
[14:01:07] <FatPhil> I usually access google via an anonymising proxy, and it doesn't include the "smart" behaviour like doing maths.
[14:00:16] <requerdanos> *no doubt
[14:00:09] <requerdanos> A similar result could do doubt be worked out by hand, assuming that the slash character is read as "divided by"
[13:58:55] <Bytram> requerdanos: interesting. tx!
[13:44:59] <requerdanos> Google tells me confidently "1.0646212e-12"
[13:44:43] <systemd> ^ 03Current Links for doi: 10.4135/9781412963909
[13:44:42] <requerdanos> Here is one with similar results, http://mr.crossref.org
[13:43:02] <FatPhil> well, one's fucked, and the other's, erm, fucked. so yeah.
[13:38:47] <Bytram> ;)
[13:38:42] <Bytram> FatPhil: Reproducible? Like... rabbits?
[13:37:04] <FatPhil> I've asked for the DOI, so I can see if it's reproduceable
[13:36:59] <systemd> ^ 03Today may finally be the day for Starship prototype SN9 to fly ( https://arstechnica.com )
[13:36:58] <Bytram> https://arstechnica.com
[13:36:34] <Bytram> FatPhil: LOL!
[13:36:02] <FatPhil> from elsewhere: "Woh! I pasted a DOI into Google and it spat out the answer 6.9153773e-15"
[13:33:24] <Bender> karma - requerdanos: 21
[13:33:24] <Bytram> requerdanos++ great recommendation
[13:31:46] <FatPhil> Bytram: no problem - the whole album's great, if you like Peter Green's blues - he's actually using Green's old guitar on that album.
[13:31:01] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5481
[13:31:01] <Bytram> coffee++
[13:30:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> need more caffeine and nicotine first though.
[13:30:23] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Russlan And Ludmilla (Overture) / Orchestra Of Mariinsky Theatre (04:34; 1,146,727 views; 👍6,946 👎205)
[13:30:22] <FatPhil> =yt Glinka Russlan and Lyudmila Overture
[13:29:59] * systemd points at Bytram
[13:29:59] <Bytram> =blame
[13:29:56] <Bytram> obligatory:
[13:29:44] <Bytram> FatPhil: tx for that Garry Moore piece!
[13:29:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> making him not crash
[13:29:07] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Whacha thinking of doing to skittles?
[13:28:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, TR is running off to most of the southern states for work here shortly, so ima take the morning off of church work. think i'll fix skittles here in a bit.
[13:27:12] <FatPhil> FIrst time I saw Alexi Laiho (the Warman guitarist) live was at a Chuck Schuldiner memorial gig, but he wasn't playing with his regular band, and most of his "improvised" solos were basically just regurgitated finger exercises. Saw him a few months later with CoB, and I forgave him immediately.
[13:23:35] <FatPhil> Then again, most of Liszt's oeuvre was finger exercises, but he was a cut above.
[13:23:04] <FatPhil> Yeah, I don't like it so much when the guitar line just turns into a finger exercise.
[13:22:45] <Bytram> ^^^ Fast keyboards rather than guitar solo, but still mighty impressive
[13:22:09] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Hoedown - Live In '73 (03:21; 273,906 views; 👍1,980 👎41)
[13:22:09] <Bytram> =yt GpBo2XWjC-Y
[13:21:59] <Bytram> FatPhil: fast guitar solos are impressive... even moreso if they stay on-beat rather than straining to pack in as many picks as possible no matter the timing.
[13:21:58] <FatPhil> He liked standing at the front of the stage, I like standing in front of the stage, hairloss was inevitable.
[13:21:17] <FatPhil> I've lost more head hair in Alexi's machine head than any other guitarist's.
[13:20:43] <FatPhil> RIP Alexi :(
[13:20:11] <systemd> ^ 03Warmen - Beyond Abilities
[13:20:09] <requerdanos> More guitar notes: https://www.youtube.com
[13:17:28] <FatPhil> fuck, shivers down my spine, and I'm only on the third note
[13:16:29] <systemd> ^ 03Gary Moore - The Supernatural (HQ) (Audio only)
[13:16:27] <FatPhil> pretty much my favourite guitar piece of all time is https://www.youtube.com , which I claim "only has 4 notes".
[13:16:03] <FatPhil> hahah - trolled you!
[13:12:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> neato. facebook's now assisted in a military coup of a democratically elected government by banning officials of said government.
[13:10:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> or, you know, anything bb king ever played, ever
[13:10:04] <systemd> ^ 03Queen - We Will Rock You (Official Video)
[13:10:02] <systemd> ^ 03Guns N' Roses - Sweet Child O' Mine (Official Music Video)
[13:10:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, rebuttal: https://www.youtube.com and https://www.youtube.com
[13:08:35] <FatPhil> However, I will not be moved on the topic of guitar solo notes per second - more is better, even more is even better, best is when you have even more than even more, but to make it even better than that, add even MOAR!
[13:02:56] <FatPhil> like music and the compression wars
[12:57:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Nissan Gives Up Root Shell Thanks To Hacked USB Drive - https://sylnt.us
[12:54:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, i used to prefer my coffee like that. and drank the stuff until i could see half an hour into the future and 20% farther into infrared. my kidneys riot if i do that nowadays though. but the flavor's better when you can actually taste the subtle stuff, so mixed bag.
[12:52:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> requerdanos, maybe the way YOU do it...
[12:51:52] <requerdanos> um, no animals die to provide the cream, thus vegetarian
[12:51:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> requerdanos, not if you put heavy cream in it
[12:51:22] <AzumaHazuki> irish breakfast tea is wonderful. the key is to brew it so strong that when you stick the spoon in it grabs it and goes "yer what, mate? think yer hard? think yer a man do ye?!"
[12:51:09] <requerdanos> tea, that other delicious vegetarian soup
[12:50:30] <AzumaHazuki> coffee, tea, it's all good <3
[12:50:13] <requerdanos> coffee, that delicious vegetarian soup
[12:49:56] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5480
[12:49:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:49:55] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[12:49:55] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
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[11:54:29] <FatPhil> Ah, if you subtract E10-E14, the rest of E00-E99 is 1/10th of the excess deaths last year. Not four times, a tenth, big difference.
[11:51:21] <Ingar> oh 7 or 9 depending on the src
[11:50:52] <Ingar> dang, 7 million, my apologies
[11:49:43] <FatPhil> Where's that figure for?
[11:49:19] <FatPhil> And our *entire* ICD-10 E00-E99 is less than the excess deaths last year.
[11:49:12] <Ingar> estimated 9 million/year
[11:43:39] * chromas bacons
[11:43:21] <chromas> no that's planting seeds; you're thinking of sow
[11:42:42] <FatPhil> needle pulling thread
[11:42:13] <chromas> so
[11:41:54] <FatPhil> whataboutism detected
[11:37:32] <chromas> How many died of hunger this year?
[11:35:55] <Ingar> almost a fourth af the number of people that die of hunger every year
[11:01:08] <FatPhil> or "potentially unconsititutional", so they erred on the side of caution to protect 101 politicians from criticism, rather than erring on the side of caution to help 1.3 million members of the public avoid spreading a disease that's killed 2 million worldwide.
[10:58:59] <FatPhil> we have a pretty freedom-loving constitution, and a lot of the things that the govt wanted to do were deemed unconstitutional.
[10:55:19] <Ingar> also interesting: our govt is now fixing the legislation to make the entire lockdown situation legal
[10:53:39] <Ingar> actually feeling less flipped this week
[10:37:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Oregon Law to Decriminalize all Drugs Goes into Effect, Offering Addicts Rehab Instead of Prison - https://sylnt.us - what-could-possibly-go-wrong?
[09:59:47] <FatPhil> I'm sure that reddit has more
[09:59:38] <FatPhil> Some scary stories about how people have flipped.
[09:59:06] <FatPhil> I contribute to a forum which acts as support for those relatives.
[09:58:28] <FatPhil> the second victim was the relatives of the microcephalics.
[09:57:47] <FatPhil> "walk away"?
[09:57:27] <c0lo> What do you call this one, FatPhil: "I want a normal day with my dad where he doesn’t bring any Q, anti vax, anti trans, “snowflakes”, “liberal tears”, covid is a hoax, biden isn’t the president, nonsense."
[09:54:02] <FatPhil> the first casualty was what remained of 70 million microcephalics brains.
[09:50:52] <systemd> ^ 03r/QAnonCasualties
[09:50:48] <c0lo> Check it out https://www.reddit.com
[09:48:40] <c0lo> ^ Classic punk
[09:48:28] <systemd> ^ 03Pussy Riot Call for Release of Russian Political Prisoners With New Song 'Rage'
[09:48:25] <c0lo> https://www.rollingstone.com
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[08:38:47] <FatPhil> ahahah!
[08:20:05] <c0lo> FAtPhil, Mercer University’s law school in Macon - Lyn had a lecture series, students want him and his name out.
[07:58:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Alphabet's Loon Failed to Bring Internet to the World -- What Went Wrong? - https://sylnt.us
[07:50:16] <FatPhil> who's mercer? I know lin wood's gone proper rabbit hole
[07:46:41] <systemd> ^ 03Tensions between Lin Wood and Mercer boil over
[07:46:40] <c0lo> https://www.ajc.com
[07:09:02] <FatPhil> as a ge-x-er, the idea that millennials and boomers are naive and suggestible comes as no surprise.
[07:04:37] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter
[07:04:36] <c0lo> QAnon condemned https://twitter.com
[06:59:03] <c0lo> In brief, neither Zumi nor Runaway did trust Trump enough: "Trump’s biggest drop-off was among voters aged 18-29 and 65 and older"
[06:55:38] <systemd> ^ 03Trump pollster's campaign autopsy paints damning picture of defeat
[06:55:38] <c0lo> Trump's post-mortem detailed autopsy report https://www.politico.com
[06:52:44] <c0lo> I don't know.
[06:50:55] * chromas prays to the mighty RedHat in the sky
[06:50:40] <chromas> No taxes on church donations
[06:50:11] <c0lo> Including the donations for election lawsuit?
[06:48:58] <chromas> well how much did he earn last year though?
[06:48:26] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Yes, Donald Trump is Still a Billionaire. That Makes His $750 Tax Payment Even More Scandalous" (65p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[06:48:22] <c0lo> =submit meh https://www.forbes.com
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[06:39:07] <c0lo> in - 2021 = -1
[06:38:45] * chromas still doesn't know where the "-1" comes from
[06:38:32] <chromas> yay!
[06:38:20] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03An Evidence Review of Face Masks Against COVID-19" (12p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[06:38:17] <chromas> bot says "-1"
[06:37:33] <c0lo> =submit utexas-says-masks-do-work-in-2021 https://www.pnas.org
[06:36:38] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Spacewalking Astronauts Complete a Space Station Battery Upgrade Years in the Making" (32p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[06:36:36] <SoyCow7066> =asub https://www.space.com
[06:36:24] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Physics of Snakeskin Sheds Light on Sidewinding" (26p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[06:36:22] <SoyCow7066> =asub https://phys.org
[06:36:04] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03These 'Vaccine Hunters' are Getting Their Shots Ahead of Schedule by Gaming the System" (5p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[06:35:59] <SoyCow7066> =asub https://www.cnn.com
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[06:32:23] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Data Breach Compromised Info of 1M-plus Who Sought Benefits" (13p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[06:32:21] <c0lo> =submit biiig-oopsie https://apnews.com
[06:29:58] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03‘It’s a Mess’: Biden’s First 10 Days Dominated by Vaccine Mysteries" (0p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[06:29:56] <c0lo> =submit https://www.politico.com
[06:02:07] <c0lo> (I'm lazy... errr, busy... but the above should be merged. Maybe if I narrow the bug I'm hunting, I'll do it. If not... so be it)
[06:00:35] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Six Big Problems With Education Savings Accounts" (22p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[06:00:31] <c0lo> =submit https://www.forbes.com
[05:59:11] <chromas> it's okay; they're american schools. it's not like they were gonna learn anything anyhow
[05:58:27] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03'School Choice'? Iowa GOP Sets Out to Siphon Money From Public Schools" (27p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[05:58:25] <c0lo> =submit https://www.desmoinesregister.com
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[05:47:54] <systemd> ^ 03AlmaLinux, the CentOS Linux replacement, beta is out
[05:47:51] <chromas> moar distros! https://www.zdnet.com
[05:41:14] <chromas> oi it's the 28 days again
[05:41:10] <systemd> ^ 03The ‘Time Has Come’ to Extend Human Embryo Research From 14 to 28 Days, Argues Bioethicist
[05:41:08] <chromas> https://gizmodo.com
[05:27:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How Superfast Charging Batteries Can Help Sell the Transition to Electric Vehicles - https://sylnt.us - amazing-claims
[03:14:01] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[03:13:36] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[03:13:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://torrentfreak.com
[03:13:10] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[03:13:10] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[02:57:04] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Scientists Have Taught Spinach to Send Emails" (0p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:57:00] <c0lo> =submit https://www.euronews.com
[02:55:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Amazon’s Ring Now Reportedly Partners With More Than 2,000 US Police and Fire Departments - https://sylnt.us - nothing-to-hide
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[02:10:34] <systemd> https://seekingalpha.com - GameStop Corp. (GME) Stock Price Today, Quote & News | Seeking ...;
[02:10:33] <Bytram> =g GME -yahoo
[02:10:03] <systemd> https://finance.yahoo.com - GameStop Corporation (GME) Stock Price, News, Quote & History ...;
[02:10:03] <Bytram> =g GME
[02:05:50] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter
[02:05:50] <c0lo> https://twitter.com
[01:57:30] <AzumaHazuki> started using some iodized salt yesterday and today and i already feel weirdly better, so hopefully this'll fix it
[01:57:08] <AzumaHazuki> bleh, i think i may be a bit hypothyroid...
[01:51:32] <Bytram> break time
[01:48:33] <FatPhil> it's trying, that's for sure
[01:48:05] <chromas> well at least it tried
[01:47:52] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Verge" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:47:50] <chromas> =asub https://www.theverge.com
[01:47:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Compelling Evidence of Neutrino Process Opens Physics Possibilities - https://sylnt.us - tiny-ping-pong-ball
[01:46:53] <AzumaHazuki> ah. odd
[01:46:49] <chromas> the proxy
[01:46:39] <AzumaHazuki> ...squid?
[01:45:57] <chromas> took squid out of the loop
[01:45:49] <chromas> :D
[01:45:47] <systemd> ^ 03Furry Horned 'Shaman' Who Stormed Capitol Now Willing To Testify Against Trump ( https://www.huffpost.com )
[01:45:45] <chromas> teste https://www.huffpost.com
[01:45:34] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[01:45:33] <chromas> https://soylentnews.org
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[01:45:10] <Bytram> yes, I was in the wrong window
[01:44:51] <FatPhil> 5 * 1601627
[01:44:47] <chromas> seems like squid's borked. it does nothing for over a minute before fetching the page
[01:41:25] <Bytram> factor 8008135
[01:41:03] <Bytram> 0xDEAD == 57005
[01:39:48] <Bytram> 0xDEAD ??
[01:39:16] <chromas> exec = ded
[01:39:11] <Bytram> ~titles
[01:39:08] <Bytram> ~titleson
[01:39:02] <Bytram> ~titles on
[01:38:46] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[01:29:24] <Bytram> /invite systemd #dev
[01:17:02] <chromas> it could
[01:16:50] <Bytram> chromas: Hmmm, if systemd discovers a potential sub is only one paragraph, could it then try again with storybot?
[01:16:02] <chromas> scraping from the command line, it plays gorillas.bas for awhile then throws a range violation
[01:14:54] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: https://wiki.soylentnews.org
[01:14:41] <chromas> you don't know whether it can sub or not until it already hasn't
[01:14:37] <Runaway1956> but lacks intelligence?
[01:14:20] <chromas> systemd is quantum
[01:14:07] <Runaway1956> preferably some quantum AI bots
[01:13:16] <Runaway1956> We probably just need more bots
[01:12:44] <chromas> But it looks like MrPlow's more reliable at the moment
[01:12:40] * Runaway1956 would think it easier to removes stuff
[01:12:18] <chromas> one bot makes subs that need more stuff added, while the other makes subs that needs stuff removed
[01:12:05] <chromas> They both do
[01:11:57] <Runaway1956> MrPlow makes editors work their fingers to the nib, so we prefer him.
[01:11:21] <AzumaHazuki> ahaaa, okay. which do you prefer?
[01:10:26] <Bytram> FWIW, MrPlow has a minimal submission (submitter, story link, and a sentence or two); systemd attempts to scrape and submit all the text from the story
[01:10:14] <FatPhil> AzumaHazuki: there's a menagerie of bots, each with their own prefix char
[01:10:13] <Runaway1956> Does systemd really have the BOVID?
[01:10:05] * MrPlow smakes bots upside the head with janrinok's tooth
[01:10:05] <chromas> #smake bots
[01:09:53] <chromas> teste https://www.huffpost.com
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[01:07:20] <c0lo> systemd =, mrplow #
[01:06:51] <c0lo> 'nother bot
[01:06:50] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[01:06:40] <AzumaHazuki> ah, so it needs a # now instead of an =?
[01:06:25] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[01:06:24] <c0lo> #submit https://www.huffpost.com from the %$@#-you-didn't-get-mine dept
[01:04:20] <systemd> https://www.genecards.org - GRAP Gene - GeneCards | GRAP Protein | GRAP Antibody
[01:04:19] <c0lo> =g grap
[01:04:19] <AzumaHazuki> =asub https://www.huffpost.com from the %$@#-you-didn't-get-mine dept.
[01:04:06] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Tsetse fly - Wikipedia
[01:04:05] <Bytram> =g tsetse
[01:03:54] <SedBot> <c0lo> Don't grap my testes, bytram.
[01:03:54] <c0lo> s/grab/grap/
[01:03:09] <c0lo> Don't grab my testes, bytram.
[01:02:43] <Bytram> !grap c0lo
[01:02:23] <systemd> acontribute, asub, asubmit, cite, contribute, doi, rehashctl, sedctl, sub, submit
[01:02:23] <Bytram> =help
[01:02:21] <c0lo> the testes don't seem to work.
[01:00:24] <systemd> 2
[01:00:24] <chromas> =threadcount
[01:00:21] <chromas> fpos
[01:00:12] <chromas> teste https://www.huffpost.com
[00:59:53] <AzumaHazuki> see this is why you go with openrc instead of systemd
[00:59:21] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://www.huffpost.com from the %$@#-you-didn't-get-mine dept.
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[00:57:37] <c0lo> 10K+ comments in 4 days
[00:57:24] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Bill Gates Warns The "Next Pandemic" Is Coming After Covid-19 - And How To Stop It | MSNBC (22:03; 976,942 views; 👍12,730 👎4,755)
[00:57:23] <c0lo> =yt tDjQ8ivwbCU
[00:56:16] <FatPhil> google is for the web exactly as distructive as it was for news (as in usenet)
[00:55:44] <FatPhil> I think they also invented the misuse of fragment identifiers to tell the javashite on the page which bit of actual content to load.
[00:50:40] <Bytram> Yep, AMP is what I was thinking of, tx!
[00:50:20] <Bytram> nodnod, so you have a web page, but how well-formed and complete is it? <html><head><script src="...."?</script></html>
[00:49:32] <chromas> Maybe AMP? Pretty old too but it's not that
[00:49:18] <chromas> That was an http replacement
[00:48:45] <Bytram> I'm tempted to say SPDY, but that was earlier, IIRC
[00:48:34] <chromas> Dunno what that is but a regular curl call seems to work fine
[00:48:00] <Bytram> Hmmm, could it be that thing that Google came up with for authoring web sites about a year or two ago?
[00:46:55] * Runaway1956 watches the movie 'Running Bot' again
[00:46:54] <chromas> and submit doesn't work on more sites now
[00:46:43] <chromas> Bytram: it's increasingly failing to grab titles lately
[00:46:37] <Runaway1956> Better catch it before it escapes
[00:46:30] <Bender> karma - chromas: 330
[00:46:30] <Bytram> chromas++
[00:46:21] <Bytram> c0lo: it's up and running
[00:46:20] <chromas> (but I did not shoot the deputy)
[00:46:15] <chromas> I shot the robot
[00:46:11] * systemd points at Bytram
[00:46:10] <Bytram> =blame
[00:46:03] <Bytram> which one? ISTU there are quite a few variants out there... maybe it needs [a | to be] shot?
[00:45:47] <c0lo> Too bad. No =submit.
[00:44:53] <chromas> probably got the covid
[00:44:41] <c0lo> chromas, what is happening with the stupid bot?
[00:40:41] <Runaway1956> LMAO - no, I don't think so - buncha conservative rednecks mostly
[00:40:40] <chromas> only if you're trolling too fast
[00:40:18] <FatPhil> And now Txka is more woke?
[00:39:12] <Runaway1956> I think there might be seven now, after Wake Village was absorbed into the city.
[00:38:35] <Runaway1956> There are at least five post office buildings -
[00:38:26] * chromas finds a spare w
[00:38:16] <chromas> Sounds like they need to post offices
[00:37:45] <Runaway1956> Two different county jails, etc ad nauseum
[00:37:27] <Runaway1956> Actually, it is two distinct cities Bytram - Txka Tx has it's own city council, and Txka Ar has one as well
[00:36:56] <Bender> karma - runaway1956: 26
[00:36:56] <FatPhil> Runaway1956++ cool story bro
[00:36:39] <Runaway1956> It died before I ever arrived in the area, but hasn't admitted it yet
[00:36:35] <systemd> Texarkana is a city in Bowie County, Texas, United States, located in the Ark-La-Tex region. Located approximately 180 miles (290 km) from Dallas, Texarkana - https://en.wikipedia.org
[00:36:34] <Bytram> =w texarkana
[00:36:19] <Bytram> requerdanos: Good one! Except for many (most?) of those years, pennies were also minted in "D"enver and "S"an Francisco.
[00:36:12] <Runaway1956> You want to know Texarkana? I can sum downtown up in one word: dismal.
[00:34:52] <Runaway1956> It's the USPS that wants to get rid of it, not anyone else
[00:34:50] <FatPhil> Ah, OK
[00:34:24] <Runaway1956> Over the post office? It isn't the states, so much as the city, and local residents
[00:33:57] <FatPhil> is it a game of dare? neither state wants to back down first, even if both want to back down?
[00:33:33] <Runaway1956> That post office building has been on and off the chopping block repeatedly - it's expensive to maintain, but almost no one is willing to give it up
[00:33:03] <FatPhil> and a police station and a railway station
[00:32:44] <Runaway1956> Yes, it sits right there on the state line, and State Line Avenue splits into a circle around it.
[00:31:34] * FatPhil finds a post-office that spans the state lines
[00:30:58] <AzumaHazuki> Texarkana lol
[00:28:32] <Runaway1956> When you cross a state line, you have entered a new jurisdiction
[00:28:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Compelling Evidence Of Neutrino Process Opens Physics Possibilities - https://sylnt.us - tiny-ping-pong-ball
[00:28:16] <Runaway1956> I'm far less familiar with St. Louis, but I presume that things work the same way there.
[00:27:53] <Runaway1956> In practice? No.
[00:27:47] <Fnord666> Is St. Louis the same way?
[00:27:33] <FatPhil> but do they differ much?
[00:27:19] <Fnord666> Runaway1956: No known examples shave been found so far
[00:27:11] <Runaway1956> Texas law applies to the Texas side of town, Arkansas law applies on the east side of town.
[00:26:35] <FatPhil> How do state laws work in Texarkana? Is everything coordinated, or does half of the town have different speed limits, sales tax, firework laws, concealed carry laws, bottle deposits, etc. etc.
[00:26:34] <Runaway1956> Yes, but, can you grow a lung inside of a fir tree?
[00:26:12] <Fnord666> Fun fact I learned today. Fir trees can grow inside a human lung!
[00:25:03] <Runaway1956> Some people would say that it is almost Texas.
[00:24:45] * Runaway1956 is near enough to Texarkana
[00:20:44] <FatPhil> Runaway1956: you in Texarkana? (/me shows off his extensive knowledge of all things Texas/Arkansas)
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