#soylent | Logs for 2021-02-01
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[00:02:28] <c0lo> Weighted Sum Model?
[00:21:41] <FatPhil> s/WSM/WSB/
[00:21:41] <SedBot> <FatPhil> I caught up on WSB chat earlier today, wanted to make sure I was positioned to cope with an army of retards
[00:23:45] <FatPhil> seems they caused some temporary panic, that's all for the moment. liquidity shock was quite impressive for nearly an hour.
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[00:39:32] <c0lo> Ah, Wall Street Broderhood.
[00:43:02] <Bytram> that was... weird.
[00:43:23] <AzumaHazuki> if Wall Street suddenly went up in sulphurous flames with a background chorus of demonic laughter, i would not shed a tear nor be surprised
[00:43:47] <Bytram> I have my laptop configured to suspend when I close the lid
[00:43:57] <Bytram> has been quite reliable
[00:44:18] <Bytram> open the lid == resume
[00:44:34] <Bytram> except just a few minutes ago
[00:45:11] <Bytram> open lid, indicator lights came on on the laptop, and I had a completely black screen
[00:45:42] <Bytram> kbd input ignored, including caps locks
[00:45:52] <AzumaHazuki> suspend has always been a pain on linux @_@ did you recently get a new kernel/do system updates?
[00:46:21] <Bytram> well, so I'd heard, 'cept it's been reliable for me
[00:46:41] <Bytram> update a few days ago
[00:46:59] <Bytram> have has successful suspend/resume since then
[00:47:04] <Bytram> s/s/d/
[00:47:04] <SedBot> <Bytram> have had successful suspend/resume since then
[00:48:26] <AzumaHazuki> odd...
[00:48:42] <AzumaHazuki> this is suspend to RAM, right, not hybrid sleep or hibernation/disk suspend?
[00:49:03] <Bytram> yes
[00:49:11] <Bytram> Ubuntu Mate
[00:49:15] <Bytram> with systemd
[00:52:57] <AzumaHazuki> i can't imagine what's going wrong here @_@ there is no obvious reason for this
[00:53:22] <AzumaHazuki> well, you're not going to like this, but try running a few runs of memtest86? that hardware is seriously long in the tooth
[00:54:10] * Bytram is scanning thrt syslog
[00:54:17] * Bytram is scanning thru syslog
[00:57:50] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://www.thedailybeast.com from the crazy-is-like-cockroaches dept
[00:57:52] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Wisconsin Vaccine Saboteur Steven Brandenburg is a Flat-Earther, FBI Document Reveals" (16p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:02:42] * Bytram did have firefox crash on me earlier today -- some issue w/ GTK or Marco (window manager) IIRC
[01:05:37] <AzumaHazuki> that machine is over a decade old isn't it? i5-520M, 4GiB memory, SATA hard drive?
[01:05:54] <Bytram> >>> Jan 31 19:36:56 E6410-001 xdg-desktop-por[1955]: Failed to get application states: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.portal.Error.Failed: Could not get window list
[01:07:40] <AzumaHazuki> that itself doesn't really specifically point to any hardware issues...do you have "smartmontools" installed? first thing i'd do right now is pop a terminal and go "sudo smartctl -t short /dev/sda"
[01:08:20] <Bytram> how would I tell if I have them installed>
[01:09:15] <AzumaHazuki> pop a terminal and see if that command works. if it says not found, you don't have it
[01:09:41] <Bytram> smartmontools: command not found
[01:10:35] <Bytram> sudo: smartctl: command not found
[01:11:26] <AzumaHazuki> sudo apt-get install smartmontools
[01:11:38] <AzumaHazuki> i'm surprised it didn't come with this...
[01:13:42] <Bytram> *I* am surprised that the initial install wentout of its way to create a 1 GB swap file for a machine with 4 GB RAM -- without asking -- which is NOT enough to hibernate to -- and I have a 1 TIB SSD
[01:14:04] <Bytram> running
[01:14:09] <AzumaHazuki> that thing has a 1TiB SSD in it? o.o considering how old the rest of the hardware is?
[01:14:28] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki++ thanks for the help!
[01:14:28] <Bender> karma - azumahazuki: 60
[01:14:48] <AzumaHazuki> we're not done yet...though this is a good sign, since it means a failing hdd (ssd) is likely NOT your issue
[01:15:55] <Bytram> it's what makes the performance pretty snappy for my needs. I got the lappy for $25, without a hard disk of any kind. Figured worse comes to worst, down the line I could put the SSD into a SAN
[01:16:39] <Bytram> test should be done... how to check results?
[01:18:25] <AzumaHazuki> smartctl -a I think...you want the terminal maximized for this since it makes a LOT of output
[01:19:56] <Bytram> sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda
[01:21:42] <AzumaHazuki> yes
[01:21:54] <Bytram> Oh! SMART as in disk status / statistics
[01:22:12] <Bytram> looks clean
[01:22:33] <AzumaHazuki> excellent
[01:23:39] * Bytram had an Athlon lappy ~13 years ago. IDE disk. Closely followed SMART as I was getting daily correctable disk errors and was biding my time until I could get a new system
[01:25:36] <Bytram> that was a nice system, until I took a spill walking on ice/snow and put spiderweb cracks into the screen. Hooked up to an external monitor and used it as if it were a desktop with a built-in UPS
[01:27:38] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: Noob question, if I may? How do I tell what packages I've manually installed? Like that "smartmontools" I just installed?
[01:28:09] <AzumaHazuki> i forgot how on apt distros, to be honest...i've been on gentoo since 2004 when i could, with breaks to Arch when the hardware was too weak
[01:28:38] <Bytram> nod nod; appreciate the reply!
[01:29:16] <Bytram> hmmm, hungry. Time to prepare something to eat.
[01:29:21] <Bytram> #sammich
[01:29:21] * MrPlow whips up a roasted dirty diaper sammich for Bytram
[01:29:30] <Bytram> ewwwww
[01:29:32] <Bytram> ewwwww
[01:29:35] <Bytram> #sammich
[01:29:35] * MrPlow whips up a egg salad sammich for Bytram
[01:30:07] <Bytram> much better! (in spite of the poor grammar)
[01:32:51] <AzumaHazuki> the next thing to do would be to run memtest86. unfortunately this has to be done on its own, not from within a running Linux session, iirc
[01:33:03] <AzumaHazuki> if that machine is as old as it seems, failing RAM is a real possibility
[01:38:11] <Bytram> k
[01:56:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - GnuPG Crypto Library Can be Pwned During Decryption - https://sylnt.us
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[03:12:13] <c0lo> =submit say-what-one-more-Goddamn-time https://www.forbes.com
[03:12:16] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08CDC—No Longer Constrained by Trump—Issues Order That Makes Not Wearing a Mask on Public Transpor" (15p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[03:13:09] <c0lo> "The order will be enforced by the Transportation Security Administration and federal, state and local agencies."
[03:30:39] <chromas> and we know they enforce totally sensible orders
[03:31:01] * chromas checks his butt for liquid containers that are too large
[03:35:00] <c0lo> =submit will-get-to-see-where-Runaway-lives https://www.congress.gov
[03:35:03] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "03Text - H.R.127 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Sabika Sheikh Firearm Licensing and Registration Act" (291p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[03:35:39] <c0lo> "the owner of a firearm shall transmit to the Bureau... the make, model, and serial number of the firearm, the identity of the owner of the firearm, the date the firearm was acquired by the owner, and where the firearm is or will be stored"
[03:36:20] <c0lo> "The Attorney General shall make the contents of the database accessible to all members of the public, all Federal, State, and local law enforcement authorities"
[03:37:13] <Bytram> c0lo: So... all the better to "target" homes to burgle for large caches of firearms?
[03:37:29] <Bytram> :^0
[03:38:41] <c0lo> Toldja, Runaway, that I'll send aristarchus after your "moron labe".
[03:39:21] <AzumaHazuki> is he still flapping his seditious foodsucker? Jesus
[03:39:58] <AzumaHazuki> on the other hand, this may be what finally gets him to register (or lands him in a padded cell...)
[03:40:29] <c0lo> He ceased for a while, I thought that he needed some goading into action.
[03:41:12] <c0lo> BTW, moron labe is a thing https://cyberpunk.fandom.com
[03:41:13] <systemd> ^ 03Moron Labe | Cyberpunk Wiki | Fandom
[03:41:29] <AzumaHazuki> lol
[03:41:59] <c0lo> A virtual thing, but there is. Homework for the reader - search for the rule 34 of moron labe.
[03:42:39] <AzumaHazuki> that's just a picture of runaway pulling his pud with his AK up his ass. with the safety off for that certain extra thrill
[03:43:12] <AzumaHazuki> ever notice how incredibly male-on-male homoerotic fascism and associated movements are? they are seriously the gym bunnies of the political world
[03:43:36] <c0lo> Pictures or it didn't happen, AzumaHazuki (grin)
[03:43:37] <chromas> You certainly like to talk about it alot
[03:43:52] <AzumaHazuki> it's a hilarious mental image, that's why :D
[03:44:12] <chromas> Need some new episodes of Republican Space Rangers
[03:44:26] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: Jim Bunnies?
[03:44:35] <Bytram> ;^)
[03:44:37] <chromas> That's James Bunnard
[03:44:54] <Bytram> chromas++ lol!
[03:44:54] <Bender> karma - chromas: 328
[03:45:02] <AzumaHazuki> you know, the obsessive macho-man type? the ones who build huge muscly overbalanced bodies.
[03:45:23] <chromas> Kinda sounds racis tho
[03:45:27] <c0lo> They haven't made yet a sequel for Spaceshit troopers?
[03:45:34] <chromas> maybe I'm thinking of jungle bunnies
[03:46:36] <Bytram> =g Barbarella
[03:46:37] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org(film) - Barbarella (film) - Wikipedia
[03:47:33] <chromas> =yt boobarella
[03:47:34] <systemd> https://youtube.com - The Simpsons - Kent Brockmen and booberella (36; 18,785 views; 👍113 👎8)
[03:48:30] <Bytram> yeah, wrong Jungle... but I was pretty sure she was in some movie with a leopard-print outfit set back in stone age times.
[03:55:00] <AzumaHazuki> chromas: quit this "das racis" bullshit. we know damn well you say it only to ridicule peoples' very real problems
[03:58:04] <chromas> What real world problems stem from "gym bunnies"?
[04:00:01] <AzumaHazuki> no, fuckstick, your idiotic "hurr hurr das rayciss, you lefties are DUH REAL RAYCISSS DURRR" bullshit every time someone says something that gives you even the barest, most tangential opening to say that
[04:00:23] <chromas> Yes...let the hate flow through you.
[04:00:45] <AzumaHazuki> that's not hate, chromas. i've made this point before: if I hated you you'd be dead.
[04:00:53] <AzumaHazuki> you're better with opsec than runaway but not that much
[04:01:34] <chromas> oh noes! no kill me internet rando
[04:01:41] <AzumaHazuki> conversely, if you're so weak that getting your bullshit publicly called out in no uncertain terms feels like hatred, maybe the internet isn't for you :)
[04:01:43] <AzumaHazuki> go find a safe space
[04:01:51] <AzumaHazuki> ...oh wait, parler's down and gab is next
[04:02:28] <AzumaHazuki> ...tough luck, huh? i guess you can always sit there crying big buttery troll tears to yourself at least
[04:02:43] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: you okay?
[04:03:04] <AzumaHazuki> yes, actually :) i've been reading stories about former QAnon supporters realizing they fucked up and getting therapy
[04:03:19] <chromas> Need to put some butter on that stick up your ass tho
[04:03:20] <AzumaHazuki> and trump's lawyers bailing on him. and basically all the nutso types getting endlessly dunked on
[04:03:20] <Bytram> poor therapists!
[04:04:05] <AzumaHazuki> sorry chromas, i don't do butt stuff. most gay women don't as i understand it. may be one reason we're the cleanest group STD wise. go ask runaway, he's all about the ass-shoving
[04:04:47] <chromas> You sure seem to fantasize about runaway's sexual activities a lot
[04:05:46] <AzumaHazuki> i'm typing it all out to annoy him and his allies :)
[04:06:25] <Bytram> !grab AzumaHazuki
[04:06:25] <Bender> Added quote 1022
[04:06:30] <chromas> I thought he was axis
[04:06:32] <AzumaHazuki> besides which, it's so obvious he's closeted he doesn't even bother trying to deny it any longer. he was In The Navy after all, LOL
[04:06:39] <Bytram> chromas++ lol!
[04:06:39] <Bender> karma - chromas: 329
[04:08:33] <Bytram> =w "In the Navy"
[04:08:34] <systemd> dance hits internationally, including the hit singles "Macho Man", "In the Navy", "Go West" and their biggest hit, "Y.M.C.A." In March 2020, the US Library - https://en.wikipedia.org
[04:08:52] <Bytram> =w "In the Navy" movie
[04:08:53] <systemd> comedies before the United States entered the war (In the Navy and Keep 'Em Flying). A sequel to this movie, Buck Privates Come Home, was released in 1947 - https://en.wikipedia.org
[04:09:39] <c0lo> chromas, "das racisss" this one https://popular.info
[04:09:40] <systemd> ^ 03Major corporations say they will stop donating to members of Congress who tried to overturn the election - Popular Information
[04:09:54] <Bytram> https://www.washingtonpost.com
[04:10:05] <systemd> ^ 03Myanmar military seizes power in coup after detaining Aung San Suu Kyi ( https://www.washingtonpost.com )
[04:11:03] <chromas> is that good or bad?
[04:11:34] <Bytram> prolly depends
[04:11:53] <AzumaHazuki> i don't think we got the entire story here on the Rohingya
[04:12:02] <Bytram> =w Myanmar
[04:12:03] <systemd> Myanmar (English pronunciation below; Burmese: မြန်မာ [mjəmà]) or Burma, officially the Republic of the Union of Myanmar, is a country in Southeast Asia - https://en.wikipedia.org
[04:12:27] <AzumaHazuki> let's be real, like fundamentalist Christianity, fundamentalist Islam is incompatible with civilization. are we getting the whole story? if not, what's missing?
[04:13:51] <Bytram> In general, military takeovers have not gone well for the populace, but some elected officials have proved to be much less than ideal, as well.
[04:14:00] <chromas> Maybe another Gadaffi situation
[04:14:03] <Bytram> IOOW: It Depends
[04:14:45] <chromas> "In object-oriented words"
[04:14:48] <Bytram> =w Depends
[04:14:49] <systemd> "Depends". American comedian Joan Rivers saw Depend as good material for comedy, and would feign jealousy at June Allyson for being the star of Depend - https://en.wikipedia.org(undergarment)
[04:15:10] <Bytram> =w Depends incontinent
[04:15:11] <systemd> The new approach used younger celebrities who were not incontinent but agreed to model the Depend brief-style products for charity. Featured celebrities - https://en.wikipedia.org(undergarment)
[04:16:19] * Bytram should have headed off to sleep a long while ago.
[04:16:30] * chromas heads Bytram off at the pass
[04:16:34] <Bytram> Have a great night everybody!
[04:20:01] <c0lo> AzumaHazuki https://abcnews.go.com
[04:20:02] <systemd> ^ 03Pharmacist sabotaged vaccines because he thought they were 'unsafe,' police say
[04:21:05] <AzumaHazuki> this is the one who also thought the earth is flat, the sky is an evil dome created to stop us from seeing God, and who carried a .45 all over
[04:21:11] <AzumaHazuki> i posted about this guy earlier
[04:21:24] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[04:21:26] <systemd> ^ 03If Those Angry Facebook Videos Had An Award Show
[04:23:22] <c0lo> Page 7/26 https://www.scribd.com
[04:23:25] <systemd> ^ 03Brandenburg Search Warrant | World Wide Web | Internet & Web
[04:23:58] <c0lo> " of the door leading to the refrigerated area. Sticker believed that the box of vaccine was moved to this area, from the refrigerator, sometime after the morning shift had left for the day around 20:30 to 23:00 on December 25, 2020. Sticker came to that conclusion because she believed that first shift employees would have seen the box of vaccine if it was outside of the refrigerator before that time frame. The only other employee at the pharmacy during t
[04:24:22] <c0lo> Oh, nononono
[04:25:31] <c0lo> "BRANDENBURG thinks that the vaccine is “microchipped” and will turn off people’s birth control and make others infertile."
[04:27:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - DMCA Takedowns Remove Perfectly Legal Plex Pages from Google - https://sylnt.us
[04:28:31] <c0lo> =submit https://www.statnews.com
[04:28:34] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Trump Officials Lobbied to Deny States Money for Vaccine Rollout Last Fall" (0p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[04:38:40] <c0lo> https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com
[04:38:42] <systemd> ^ 03How Popular Is Joe Biden?
[05:00:37] <c0lo> =submit tremedous-at-math https://apnews.com
[05:00:39] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03AP FACT CHECK: Biden’s Fuzzy Math on 1 Million New Auto Jobs" (26p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[05:16:16] <Fnord666> ~arthur
[05:16:27] <Fnord666> ~arthur help
[05:16:40] <c0lo> =submit https://www.axios.com
[05:16:43] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03The Starting Place for Biden's Electric Vehicle Charging Push" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[05:30:49] <c0lo> =submit https://www.rawstory.com
[05:30:51] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08'Out for Blood': Black Lives Matter Activist Warns Pence and Cheney to Watch Their Back for MAGA Att" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[05:48:54] <c0lo> =submit https://www.theage.com.au
[05:48:58] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08National Socialist Network Cross Burning in Grampians Sparks Calls for Group to be Added to Terror L" (128p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[06:57:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Skull Of Tube-Crested Dinosaur Reveals Evolution Of Bizarre Crest - https://sylnt.us
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[07:49:26] <c0lo> =submit https://www.nationalreview.com
[07:49:31] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "031918 Influenza Masks | National Review" (1p) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[09:26:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Surprisingly Fast Transport in Carbon Nanotube Membranes Could Advance Human Health - https://sylnt.us
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[09:30:15] <chromas> "Ma! The carbon nanotubes are in the news again!"
[09:30:50] * FatPhil passes chromas the tweezers
[09:31:15] * chromas gets plucky
[09:32:24] <FatPhil> you daft punk
[09:32:33] <chromas> With this new mini-pc as a gateway I'm getting anywhere from 90 to 160 mb/s download speed, depending on the speed test
[09:32:43] <chromas> Netflix always shows exactly 100mb/s though
[09:33:32] <FatPhil> I'm happy with my 50
[09:34:45] <chromas> I can torrent Linux ISOs so much faster now
[09:35:01] <FatPhil> if I get a faster machine, and higher res monitor, then maybe I'll want to start downloading 10GB vids, but at the moment, the differnce between 4 minutes and 2 minutes isn't worth fussing over.
[09:35:03] <chromas> Yeah, we could drop the speed and save a buck
[09:35:22] <chromas> the isp just quietly bumps the speed every once in a while
[09:35:43] <chromas> (not for extra buxx)
[09:36:03] <FatPhil> the difference between 20 and 50 was nothing, but the jump to 100 was huge, so we just went for the value offering
[09:36:36] <FatPhil> exact opposite of fast food
[09:36:58] <chromas> =yt food theory drinks
[09:36:59] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Food Theory: Never Order A Burger King Medium Soda! (12:15; 3,460,650 views; 👍144,530 👎2,855)
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[09:41:03] <ingar> Februari! The Shittiest month of the year!
[09:41:33] <chromas> Yeah but it's a shortshit
[09:42:01] ingar is now known as Ingar
[09:42:40] <Ingar> and I still get payed for a longshit
[09:42:43] <Ingar> life is good
[09:43:44] <chromas> I think there was a documentary about it
[09:43:52] <chromas> =g 28 days later
[09:43:53] <systemd> https://www.imdb.com - 28 Days Later... (2002) - IMDb
[09:46:19] <Ingar> Sounds like the title from a movie on female fertility
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[09:50:24] <Ingar> I always have to think about https://www.imdb.com
[09:50:25] <systemd> ^ 03"Babylon 5" Confessions and Lamentations (TV Episode 1995) - IMDb
[09:51:13] <Ingar> (The One Where the Markab Civilization is wiped out by the Drafa plague)
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[10:17:16] <chromas> Breaking news: https://nypost.com
[10:17:17] <systemd> ^ 03Scientists finally reveal why wombats poop in cubes
[10:25:19] <Ingar> square assholes
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[11:55:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - AMD Feels Supply Shortages Will Affect PS5, Xbox Series X, and PC Gaming Until at Least 2H 2021 - https://sylnt.us
[12:00:54] <c0lo> https://www.tampabay.com
[12:00:56] <systemd> ^ 03Stanford study links Trump rallies to 30,000 COVID-19 cases, 700 deaths
[12:05:00] <chromas> Stanford Experiment 2: Eclectic MAGAloon
[13:23:13] <Bytram> coffee++
[13:23:13] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5479
[13:43:37] <c0lo> =submit https://www.politico.com
[13:44:56] <c0lo> Soylent/Staph/Infector/chromas - systemd is slacking again
[13:45:37] <Bytram> Ingar: Not really; square lower intestines, and even that is not exactly right; see: https://arstechnica.com
[13:45:42] <systemd> ^ 03It’s the wombat’s strange intestines, not its anus, that produces cubed poo ( https://arstechnica.com )
[13:48:00] <c0lo> =submit https://www.politico.com
[13:48:07] <boru> Sheesh, the US has a new president doesn't it? Why is there still this constant stream of "news" about him and his supporters?
[13:48:52] <Bytram> boru: Draws gullible eyeballs to ads?
[13:49:14] <boru> It's getting more and more like idiocracy.
[13:49:21] <c0lo> Never learn from history, more fun this way when it happens again.
[13:50:38] <boru> !grab c0lo
[13:50:38] <Bender> Added quote 1023
[13:50:48] <boru> (For when the USA is at war in the ME again within the year)
[13:50:53] <Bytram> The US' "Founding Fathers" extensively studied prior governmental "organization" -- including Athens and Rome among many others
[13:51:36] <boru> I posit they were far more qualified to lead a nation than, say, all presidents since JFK.
[13:51:40] <Bytram> break time; afk
[13:54:26] <c0lo> boru, I bet it won't be in ME. https://www.politico.com
[13:56:27] <boru> I'd imagine Iran will be next, if the Oded Yinon plan is anything to go by, plus all of the recent terrorist attacks by israel in the country would point to that.
[13:56:59] <boru> I think the US have already started another cold war with China.
[13:57:19] <boru> I don't think it'll amount to much more other than big talk, as with North Korea.
[13:57:53] <boru> China has a high strategic advantage internationally.
[13:58:44] <Ingar> hasn't the US been working very hard of late to turn that cold war into a shooting war
[13:59:12] <boru> Seems that way, reading the endless steam of comedy coming from their mainstream news sources.
[14:00:00] <Ingar> of China likes Iran, could kill two birds with one stone
[14:00:36] <boru> I'd say that after Syria, Iran has made some close ties with the BRIC countries.
[14:00:42] <boru> Stronger than before, rather.
[14:00:48] <c0lo> US will need to bring its presence closer to China if it wants to be a non-neglijible threat. Perhaps Phillipines. In any case ME is too far away and, proven by near history, too expensive
[14:01:19] <boru> "Too expensive" is the whole point of the MIC.
[14:01:27] <boru> "Go to war, make us rich!"
[14:02:01] <c0lo> Iran will be let to Israel and Saudi Arabia now that they aren't "enemies" any more.
[14:02:22] <boru> I sometimes doubt they ever were.
[14:02:30] <c0lo> MIC wil just sell to SA
[14:02:46] <c0lo> s/wil/will/
[14:02:46] <SedBot> <c0lo> MIC will just sell to SA
[14:03:30] <c0lo> And "build defences" closer to China.
[14:03:40] <boru> Time will tell. I hope that for any country that deems "foreign intervention" aka invasion and installation of puppet governments, is acceptable, that the chickens will come home to roost.
[14:04:03] <boru> NATO has already secured that. Look at a map of their bases.
[14:04:12] <boru> The sooner NATO breaks up, the better.
[14:07:30] <c0lo> "NATO has already secured that" There's nothing close enough to China (except Japan), NATO's too far away
[14:09:48] <c0lo> Taiwan would be close enough, but https://soylentnews.org
[14:10:29] <boru> Well, NATO's proxy war on the African continent is a start. If they destroy China's assets there, it's as good as a declaration of war.
[14:10:35] <boru> Mali, for example.
[14:11:10] <boru> People are extremely impoverished there, yet NATO sees fit to bomb what little they have into nothing.
[14:11:47] <boru> I don't agree with China's economic colonisation in Africa, but at least thery're bringing money, and not bombs.
[14:12:11] <c0lo> Heh, the French will just need to motivate the islamic "freedom fighters" in Sahel to cause headaches for the Chinese interest in the region.
[14:12:36] <boru> Worked for the US in Afghanistan, right? There were no repercussions there at all.
[14:12:44] <c0lo> Afghanistan in Africa, just with China instead of Russia.
[14:12:51] <boru> Indeed.
[14:13:23] <boru> Similarly with the nationalist groups in Colombia, and the slew of other countries the CIA carried out such operations.
[14:14:25] <boru> I would say Anarctica is the only continent where the CIA hasn't been involve with some subversive activity, but ISTR the French researchers reporting sabotage on equipment and experiments by "neighbours".
[14:17:04] <c0lo> In any case, the interesting times aren't over.
[14:17:29] <boru> Agreed. I think the next few years, at least, will see some fairly major overtures, political and social.
[14:17:35] <c0lo> A good thing China stopped importing Aussie wine, more for me.
[14:18:48] <boru> I'm not sure if that's good thing; surely Australia will need as much export as they can. I mean, what have they got? Steel? Coal? Beef? Uranium?
[14:19:17] <boru> Parts of Australia already have it rough. I wouldn't like to see it get worse for them.
[14:19:55] <c0lo> Australia can be self suficient based on the resourses and population levels.
[14:20:30] <boru> Until a few bad seasons come along; my understanding was that the country depends mostly on secondary sector industry, but perhaps that's no longer true.
[14:20:43] <c0lo> (i.e. at least it won't go hungry or missing anything essential)
[14:21:14] <boru> Well, they can always count on the kiwis for some mutton.
[14:21:25] <boru> That is, of course, if they are willing to part with their beloved wives.
[14:22:21] <c0lo> At the worst of draught years recently, Australia still exported food (cattle/sheep/wheat/wine). On top of iron and coal.
[14:23:08] <boru> Good for them.
[14:23:30] <c0lo> Being here, good for me too.
[14:25:01] <boru> Quite.
[14:27:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Facebook Restores Disputed Posts After its Oversight Board Issues First Decisions - https://sylnt.us - Facebook's-supreme-court
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[15:15:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://babylonbee.com
[16:11:27] <Runaway1956> Well, it's about time we did something meaningful about global warming.
[16:12:06] <Runaway1956> I mean, canonizing some Scandinavian child was all well and good, but saints aren't much use for hundreds of years.
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[16:47:37] <FatPhil> c0lo: I presume you know monty python's view on australian wines?
[16:57:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - TSMC Agrees to Produce More Automotive Processors so Taiwan Can Get Vaccines - https://sylnt.us - playing-their-chips-right
[17:16:13] <Ingar> it's too late to do something meaningful about global warming
[17:16:51] <requerdanos> So, uh, you don't think nuking the sun is going to help?
[17:17:43] <Ingar> it will mostly help the bank accounts of the companies producing nukes ?
[17:17:51] <Ingar> and some tribe leaders in congo for selling their uranium
[17:17:58] <requerdanos> whole aerospace industry benefits, most likely.
[17:18:55] <Ingar> making thrustworthy devices that never crash, like boeing
[17:21:01] <Ingar> but fortunately
[17:21:14] <Ingar> the US can have their nukes back that are not stored near Brussels
[19:11:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://babylonbee.com
[19:21:31] <Runaway1956> I hope all you proles are wearing your masks.
[19:21:37] <Runaway1956> https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com
[19:27:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Silver Coin Sites Grind to a Halt as Reddit Horde Takes Aim - https://sylnt.us - Tulips-on-the-march
[19:45:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> i got a spiderman mask coming but not until then, no
[19:46:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> nap time
[19:47:26] <chromas> no batman mask?
[19:47:28] <chromas> or zorro?
[20:14:32] <Teckla> I think I have a few old silver dollars. Maybe they're worth $5 or $10 now. I could buy a few cups o' joe!
[20:56:53] <FatPhil> Teckla: what kind of age?
[21:00:46] <FatPhil> If they're 90% silver then just the silver in them is worth $10.
[21:01:05] <FatPhil> US mint started bringing out crappy 40% ones, so you can't be sure.
[21:05:36] <FatPhil> And of course, some aren't even silver at all, they're base alloys, like the Susan B Anthony.
[21:07:02] <Teckla> I think from the 1910s
[21:07:02] <FatPhil> SBA seems to be worth 7c in metal.
[21:07:12] <Teckla> I'd have to dig them out to know for sure, but they are really old
[21:07:21] <FatPhil> nice! Peace Dollars?
[21:07:21] <Teckla> My father gave them to me
[21:07:30] <Teckla> I'll dig them out sometime and check :)
[21:07:37] <FatPhil> Morgan >> Peace
[21:08:37] <FatPhil> Good starting point: https://www.gainesvillecoins.com
[21:08:40] <systemd> ^ 03Gainesville Coins
[21:13:14] <Runaway1956> I believe in Freedom of Speech and Freedom of the Press - so long as people I don't like aren't speaking or pressing!! -- Woke Snowflake
[21:14:24] <Runaway1956> Teckla - coins *can be* extremely valuable, depending on rarity and condition.
[21:15:14] <Runaway1956> Started collecting old pennies way back around 1965 or so, and some were suprisingly valuable even then
[21:17:21] <Teckla> I have a pretty good penny collection from when I was young, from something like 1900 onward, all the variations of each year
[21:17:32] <Teckla> No idea what the collection is worth
[21:32:59] <requerdanos> at *least* US$1.21
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[22:17:57] <Runaway1956> Double-plus good QOTD: Connection reset by some moron with a backhoe
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[22:39:49] <c0lo> Runaway1956, read this https://www.congress.gov
[22:40:26] <c0lo> The "database available to public" will fill you with happiness.
[22:41:54] <Runaway1956> I read that c0lo - first on TTAG, then in my own news feed. And, I'll mention that because I live near Houston, I hear about Sheila Jackson Lee regularly.
[22:42:20] <Runaway1956> She is less affectionately known as SheJack.
[22:42:51] <Runaway1956> BTW - that shit ain't happening.
[23:05:17] <chromas> "As Stadia gets really good, Google does what it does best and pulls the rug out from under it."
[23:05:23] <chromas> http://feeds.windowscentral.com
[23:05:36] <chromas> stupid robot
[23:05:46] <chromas> ^ Google kills Stadia first-party games, literally nobody is surprised
[23:13:52] <Runaway1956> Oh, stop talking like Google is evil.
[23:14:16] <Runaway1956> Killing is a good thing. Without killing you would have no hamburgers or weiners.
[23:24:01] <pinchy> no weiners
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