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[23:36:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - There's a Curious Effect Urban Trees Might Have on Depression, Study Finds - https://sylnt.us - boosting-mental-health
[22:14:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> cats have a bad rap for being unsocial. they're even more social than people. i mean, how many people do you feel close enough to to stick your butthole in their face?
[21:42:56] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Dewdrops on a Spiderweb Reveal the Physics Behind Cell Structures" (13p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[21:42:53] <systemd> <p><b>Journal Reference</b>:<br/>Sagar U. Setru, Bernardo Gouveia, Raymundo Alfaro-Aco, <em>et al</em>. <b>A hydrodynamic instability drives protein droplet formation on microtubules to nucleate branches</b>, <cite>Nature Physics</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.1038/s41567-020-01141-8">10.1038/s41567-020-01141-8</a>)</p>
[21:42:51] <c0lo> =doi 10.1038/s41567-020-01141-8
[21:42:34] <systemd> Submitting "Dewdrops on a spiderweb reveal the physics behind cell structures"...
[21:42:31] <c0lo> =submit https://phys.org
[21:38:53] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Green Run Update: NASA Proceeds With Plans for Second Hot Fire Test – Artemis" (7p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[21:38:31] <systemd> Submitting "Green Run Update: NASA Proceeds With Plans for Second Hot Fire Test – Artemis"...
[21:38:30] <c0lo> =submit https://blogs.nasa.gov
[21:36:45] <c0lo> ^^^ https://arxiv.org
[21:36:17] <systemd> <p><b>Journal Reference</b>:<br/>Travis J. Baker, Seyed N. Saadatmand, Dominic W. Berry, <em>et al</em>. <b>The Heisenberg limit for laser coherence</b>, <cite>Nature Physics</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.1038/s41567-020-01049-3">10.1038/s41567-020-01049-3</a>)</p>
[21:36:15] <c0lo> =doi 10.1038/s41567-020-01049-3
[21:36:08] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Physicists are Reinventing the Laser" (5p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[21:35:54] <chromas> But where does WinAMP come in?
[21:35:47] <systemd> Submitting "Physicists Are Reinventing the Laser"...
[21:35:45] <c0lo> =submit https://www.gizmodo.com.au
[21:33:17] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03In the Search for Covid Protection, Cormac the 'Extremely Charismatic' Llama May Hold a Key" (46p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[21:32:55] <systemd> Submitting "In the search for Covid protection, Cormac the 'extremely charismatic' llama may hold a key"...( 1 modified urls; http://www.theguardian.com )
[21:32:53] <c0lo> =submit https://www.theguardian.com
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[20:58:09] <Bender> karma - naps: 121
[20:58:09] <Teckla> naps++
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[18:57:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Exoplanetary System Found with 6 Worlds in Orbital Resonance - https://sylnt.us - good-vibrations
[18:01:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> nap time now
[18:00:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, fine by me. beryllium. if you want it to stay yours, run it as you from your home directory. if you want it to be a system bot, run it as sylnt from ~sylnt. either way, set up a cron job to auto restart it.
[15:35:48] <Teckla> FatPhil: Yep, just like that.
[15:35:35] <FatPhil> sometimes just called a "combo" 3.5mm jack
[15:34:05] <FatPhil> I briefly worked on the jack connecter driver for the kernel, and apple headphones would confuse everything. (but anyone who plugs apple headphones into a nokia phone is confused already, so no harm is done)
[15:32:42] <FatPhil> Beware - when apple had jacks, they had their connections in a different order
[15:31:57] <systemd> ^ 03Amazon.co.uk
[15:31:57] <FatPhil> Teckla: this kinda thing? https://www.amazon.co.uk
[15:20:23] <chromas> 3.5mm is the usual diameter, btw
[15:20:11] <chromas> you're welcome :)
[15:19:05] <Bender> karma - chromas: 327
[15:19:05] <Teckla> chromas++
[15:18:51] <Teckla> chromas: Thank you! That was it.
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[15:12:50] <chromas> hm so that one didn't time out
[15:12:44] * SedBot is a 54-line awk script, https://github.com
[15:12:44] <chromas> SedBot:
[15:12:41] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: what's your opinion on running SedBot from a soybox?
[15:12:05] <chromas> Keep them as decorations
[15:07:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, ring n tip. that reminds me, i need to get ahold of the phone company and tell them to come remove their service from the church. the cable and box are currently lying on the ground and will never be used while we live there.
[15:05:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, it wasn't locked up, it was on strike. all the resistors on the motherboard unionized on you and won't start doing their jobs properly again unless they get more paid time off.
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[14:48:21] <chromas> The sort of thing you'd think the one and only point of a preemptive multitasking operating system would be to prevent but doesn't
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[14:46:47] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: can't help it. the box did the classic computer move of locking up for a bit then acting all innocent like nothing ever happened
[14:42:14] <chromas> Teckla: try trrs (tip ring ring sleeve)
[14:40:26] * MrPlow smakes chromas upside the head with a duck of geese
[14:40:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake chromas
[14:40:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> =taco c0lo
[14:40:13] * MrPlow smakes c0lo upside the head with a thousand jihads
[14:40:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake c0lo
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[14:26:44] <Teckla> Hey all, need a little tech help. I got my daughter some headphones with build in mic for her bday. The cord had two plugs (one for audio, one for mic). I need an adapter that lets her plug these into a standard laptop combo audio/mic port. What's the name of the adapter?
[14:25:36] <c0lo> =smake bots
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[14:06:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - In a World First, Physicists Narrow Down the Possible Mass of Dark Matter - https://sylnt.us - as-some-theorise
[14:04:41] <c0lo> =smake chromas
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[13:57:06] <c0lo> Specific difference, AzumaHazuki, a proper looney is incorrigible, the redneck can be brought to date (IF you take time and are willing to support the cost of doing so). Since that's a very big 'if', the distinction is purely academic.
[13:44:46] <AzumaHazuki> the end effect is the same
[13:44:39] <AzumaHazuki> hanlon's razor lost its edge a long time ago
[13:44:15] <requerdanos> I submit that there are people who are not looneytunes (not certifiably nutso) but who simply have poor, careless information hygeine--with the end result being the same as being an extra-crunchy nutjob as far as stated beliefs go
[13:31:37] <c0lo> Yeah, well, that's the ugly side of democracy, what can one do? (there's a lot that can be done, a good amount of this world have democracies that are a lot more functional. Takes time, tho, and it doesn't come cheap)
[13:05:06] <FatPhil> c0lo: yeah, she may be completely loonytunes, but apparently >90000 Georgians want her specifically in office.
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[12:23:48] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Time to Double or Upgrade Masks as Coronavirus Variants Emerge, Experts Say" (36p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[12:23:27] <systemd> Submitting "Time to double or upgrade masks as coronavirus variants emerge, experts say"...
[12:23:17] <c0lo> =submit https://www.washingtonpost.com
[12:17:02] <c0lo> Good God, what do you want woman, to have sex with little boys?
[12:15:46] <c0lo> "children should not wear masks,"... "forcing boys to wear masks is emasculating."
[12:14:39] <systemd> ^ 03GOP House candidate in Georgia bucks CDC's recommendation and says 'children should not wear masks'
[12:14:36] <c0lo> https://edition.cnn.com
[12:10:49] <systemd> ^ 03GOP under pressure to take action against Marjorie Taylor Greene
[12:10:49] <c0lo> https://www.politico.com
[11:47:13] * c0lo slaps himself into reason
[11:46:55] <c0lo> I... I sorta... I know it's totaly unhealthy, but I sorta feel a withdrawal-of-public-lunacy symptom since Trump is no more; it's sorta refreshing to see that an amount of crazyness is still on the public scene of politics.
[11:42:01] <systemd> ^ 03A guide to likely member of Congress Marjorie Taylor Greene’s conspiracy theories and toxic rhetoric
[11:41:59] <FatPhil> Blimey, that Greene sounds like a complete dumpster fire of a human: https://www.mediamatters.org
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[09:26:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Catalyst Moves Seawater Desalination, Hydrogen Production Closer to Commercialization - https://sylnt.us - seawater-splitting-at-low-voltage
[09:15:13] <FatPhil> It was a coordinated attack! In 27AD they attacked both California and Bethlehem, the bastards.
[09:14:03] <systemd> ^ 03How Many House Republicans Believe the Jews Attacked California With a Space Laser?
[09:14:01] <c0lo> https://slate.com
[09:13:10] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Cool Runnings - Wikipedia
[09:13:09] <FatPhil> =g cool runnings
[09:13:00] <FatPhil> it's like saying a group of athletes can't form a bobsled team because their country doesn't get snow.
[09:05:21] <c0lo> But I give up, I'm not curious enough to spend my weekend time understanding this.
[09:04:23] <c0lo> Looks like it's related with some registry that links a ship to its owner (at least)
[09:03:47] <systemd> ^ 03Mongolia’s Dubious Merchant Navy
[09:03:46] <c0lo> I tried to make sense of https://thediplomat.com
[08:59:14] <FatPhil> If a flag on a boat means a country has a sea port, then there's something terribly wrong with your use of semiotics.
[08:59:12] <c0lo> Beat me if I know what sailing under one flag means.
[08:58:38] <FatPhil> What does the flag mean?
[08:58:29] <FatPhil> Nor should there be.
[08:57:58] <c0lo> So, nothing wrong with a ship sailing under Mongolian flag.
[08:57:55] <FatPhil> Luxembourg's a great example - it's just one mountain, nothing more!
[08:57:26] <c0lo> "Today, land-locked states which have merchant vessel fleets include Austria, Azerbaijan, Bolivia, Ethiopia, Hungary, Laos, Luxembourg, Mongolia, Moldova, Paraguay, Slovakia and Switzerland, though of these, only Ethiopia, Laos, and Mongolia have no river/sea port from which the high sea can be reached. "
[08:56:47] <c0lo> "a land-locked state could register ships and sail them on the sea under its own flag"
[08:56:08] <systemd> ^ 03Declaration recognising the Right to a Flag of States having no Sea-coast - Wikipedia
[08:56:07] <c0lo> See also https://en.wikipedia.org
[08:53:05] <FatPhil> Caspian Sea, and Black Sea, are reasonable excuses. I'm not sure Lake Geneva is, though.
[08:47:00] <systemd> ground forces to cross or travel along a lake or river. Landlocked countries that have navies today include: Azerbaijan – Although Azerbaijan borders - https://en.wikipedia.org
[08:46:59] <c0lo> =w Navies of landlocked countries
[08:46:45] <FatPhil> I'm sure if Turkmenistan has one, the submarines are plated in Gold, knowing their president.
[08:45:23] <FatPhil> A bunch of the ex-soviet -stans do too, if you want an Asian example, but I forget which ones.
[08:44:45] <FatPhil> Switzerland does, though
[08:43:22] <FatPhil> Nope
[08:25:46] <chromas> is this true? https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net
[04:36:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Dissecting the Anatomy of Planetary Nebulae Using the Hubble Space Telescope - https://sylnt.us - the-real-dying-star
[04:21:40] <halibut> Normalizing is a little difficult, though.
[04:21:27] <halibut> Sorry. Meant even instead of odd.
[04:21:05] <halibut> You mean where p(-x) = -p(x)? But that makes the odd moments so much easier to compute!
[04:20:08] <c0lo> ... "Here, though, it's just a linear curve, and all the necessary integrations are actually quite easy." true. Just don't do it just for an origin-symmetric distribution.
[04:18:55] <c0lo> halibut, re "Summing distributions and renormalizing, in general, is difficult." Not particularly when the two distributions are linear + uniform. But...
[04:12:30] <MrPlow> Los Angeles City Hall, 200 North Spring St, Los Angeles, CA 90012, USA - Today: "Rain in the morning and afternoon." 55/43F, Humidity: 77%, Precip: 98%, Wind ~2mph. Sat: "Clear throughout the day." 63/45F, Humidity: 67%, Precip: 10%, Wind ~3mph. Sun: "Partly cloudy throughout the day." 70/54F, Humidity: 47%, Precip: 8%, Wind ~3mph.
[04:12:29] <Bytram> #weather los angeles
[03:47:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - As More Bacteria Grow Resistant to Antibiotics, Scientists are Fighting Back - https://sylnt.us
[03:19:47] <chromas> or Red Dwarf
[03:19:43] <chromas> Ah, so Dr Who, the IT Crowd and Red Faction
[03:17:47] <Runaway1956> Dunno, I know about as much about British TV as most 'Muricans.
[03:17:14] <chromas> Did old British TV have interlacing?
[03:16:47] <chromas> It'll go faster if you exclude the last couple Drs
[03:16:37] <Runaway1956> gonna take three months at that rate . . .
[03:16:07] <Runaway1956> Grabbed a bittorrent with *all* of the Dr. Who seasons. Was downloading nicely for a couple hours, now it's down to ~50 kps
[03:10:57] <Runaway1956> Mehhh - like an old lion, you gotta keep roaring, or the scavengers will creep up on you.
[03:09:43] * Bytram appreciates the enthusiasm, but I've been a day away from death a couple-three times now, so I have no doubts about my own mortality.
[03:08:32] <chromas> But is he a null-terminator? I didn't realize he was a c-man
[03:08:27] <Runaway1956> Lean, mean, and indestructible.
[03:08:27] * Bytram might be a factor, though? Besides "b" comes before "c", so I don't think we'll get swapped, anyway.
[03:08:00] <Runaway1956> You don't know Bytram all that well - he's actually the Terminator
[03:07:31] <chromas> He's not a term though, so the limit does not exist
[03:07:03] * Runaway1956 petitions the internet to swap Bytram with chromas
[03:06:15] * Bytram suspects no more successful than anyone else who tried over the past couple millennia
[03:05:36] * chromas petitions the internet to change "runaway train" to "self-exited wheeliechain"
[03:04:49] * Runaway1956 wonders how well you would do trying to replace aristarchus
[03:03:55] <Runaway1956> Good luck with that - it's a dirty job that nobody else wants.
[03:03:32] <chromas> I propose a limit on the term "runaway". It's high time we came up with a new one.
[03:03:31] <Runaway1956> No-grab
[03:03:20] <Runaway1956> I'm too damned old to storm the capitol and threaten Nancy Palooka. ;)
[03:02:43] <Runaway1956> and maybe donate a few dollars
[03:02:38] <Runaway1956> FWIW - I believe term limits are needed, but I don't plan to do much more than argue for it in forums such as SN
[03:02:08] <chromas> What if we legally required politicians to get new, randomly generated names every term?
[03:01:50] <Runaway1956> Severely limited people, according to the Monkey Theory.
[03:01:34] <Runaway1956> Because 'Muricans are too damned stoooopid to vote for names they don't already recognize.
[03:01:16] <chromas> Activistate me, good sir
[03:00:58] <chromas> Why not just vote out the 'bad' guys?
[03:00:50] <chromas> Why do we need term limits?
[03:00:17] <Runaway1956> Kinda like the military, LOL
[03:00:06] <Runaway1956> Damn - I just learned that I've "volunteered" to be a term limits activist.
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[01:03:14] <halibut> Summing distributions and renormalizing, in general, is difficult. Here, though, it's just a linear curve, and all the necessary integrations are actually quite easy.
[01:01:37] <c0lo> "the case where the probability distribution was discontinuous at both boundaries." - that's just the sum of an uniform and a trapezoidal distribution, renormalized. Makes the things a bit more complicated (to separate the weights between two terms)
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[00:04:16] <halibut> A uniform distribution would be the 0th-order approximation of such a slice. Allowing for a slope at the top would be the 1st-order approximation of such a slice.
[00:03:35] <halibut> If I understood the description, it is as though there is a larger distribution, and you cut a thin slice from it. You have zero on both sides of the slice, and then it jumps up to some nonzero value, is roughly constant, and then jumps back down to zero at the other side of the slice.
[00:02:17] <halibut> In the b == c == d limit, the trapezoidal distribution is continuous at a.
[00:01:48] <halibut> c0lo: Specifically, let b == c == d (or a == b == c for a negative slope). That is a limiting case of what I thought FatPhil wanted, but it sounded like FatPhil also wanted to allow the case where the probability distribution was discontinuous at both boundaries.