#soylent | Logs for 2021-01-28
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[00:31:46] <Runaway1956> Well, that was an interesting experiment:
[00:32:05] <Runaway1956> Installed Kodi inside of a virtual machine, and the performance is just shit
[00:32:32] <Runaway1956> Not all addons are equally shitty - some are bad, and the rest are worse.
[00:33:12] <FatPhil> tried kodi on my Pi for a while. it was uttely useless. basically it seemed to be a clunky semi-functional backend to youtube playlists.
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[00:34:16] <FatPhil> Had a UI that wouldn't quiesce. As soon as I found that out, I burnt a new OS onto that card, that's literally 101 stuff.
[01:48:18] <halibut> That's the same reason I refuse to use the ``yes'' program as my shell. It just won't settle.
[01:49:00] <Bytram> =yt Yes roundabout
[01:49:01] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Roundabout (2003 Remaster) (08:31; 4,000,222 views; đź‘Ť57,652 đź‘Ž1,379)
[01:49:14] <Bytram> ;^)
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[02:35:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 84% of Mexican Hand Sanitizers Toxic or Flawed; FDA Issues Drastic Alert - https://sylnt.us - do-not-drink-the-hand-sanitizer
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[04:31:17] <c0lo> =submit 4chan-on-wallstreet https://www.kotaku.com.au
[04:31:20] <systemd> Submitting "Discord Bans WallStreetBets For 'Hateful' Content"...
[04:31:41] <systemd> âś“ Sub-ccess! "03Discord Bans WallStreetBets for 'Hateful' Content" (4p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[04:33:30] <c0lo> ^^^ that's... like... yeap, I can hear it... those snowflake investors, can't get for-the-keks memes.
[05:08:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Complete Moron’s Guide to GameStop’s Stock Roller Coaster - https://sylnt.us - ups-and-downs
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[07:47:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ten-Year Old sudo Vulnerability Gives Root Privileges on Host - https://sylnt.us - hiding-in-plain-site
[10:16:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Should a Self-Driving Car Kill the Baby or the Grandma? Depends on Where You're From - https://sylnt.us - dealer's-choice?
[10:37:49] <chromas> I found the Gay Agenda™
[10:38:07] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[10:38:09] <systemd> ^ 03Scissor Sisters - Any Which Way
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[11:28:49] <FatPhil> not https://www.youtube.com ?
[11:28:50] <systemd> ^ 03Electric Six - Gay Bar (UNCENSORED High Quality)
[11:39:16] <FatPhil> I will confess to not ever knowingly head any Scissor Sisters before, I had presumed they were an Indy all-female band. Apparently I was wrong.
[11:39:27] <FatPhil> s/head/heard/
[11:39:27] <SedBot> <FatPhil> I will confess to not ever knowingly heard any Scissor Sisters before, I had presumed they were an Indy all-female band. Apparently I was wrong.
[11:39:46] <FatPhil> though I will also confess to never having given them head too.
[11:46:35] <FatPhil> Oooh, I don't like their version of /Comfortably Numb/, it's OK for what it is and I begrudge not anyone for liking it, but it's a travesty of the original.
[12:06:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:06:31] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5477
[12:07:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, they ain't bad. late 90s early 00s, weren't they?
[12:15:33] <FatPhil> 2003 was their first album, it seems. has that authentic retro disco vibe though, very catchy, I do approve.
[12:26:49] <FatPhil> My dabbling into disco normally ranges from https://www.youtube.com to https://www.youtube.com via https://www.youtube.com
[12:26:51] <systemd> ^ 03Sinergy-Gimme Gimme Gimme(Abba cover)
[12:26:53] <systemd> ^ 03Yngwie Malmsteen - Gimme! Gimme! Gimmie! (Abba Cover)
[12:26:54] <systemd> ^ 03Beseech - Gimme Gimme Gimme
[12:45:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Open Sources Tilt Brush VR Software as It Shuts Down Internal Development - https://sylnt.us - another-one-bites-the-dust
[12:52:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> i pretty much hated disco while it was going on the first time but now it amuses me.
[12:52:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> except Flash Beagle. i liked that the first time i heard it.
[12:56:24] <FatPhil> Yeah, I'm a metaller, and hated disco, but I like blues which led me to jazz/fusion, which lead me to funk, which let me rediscover disco with an open mind.
[13:01:01] <FatPhil> This? https://www.youtube.com
[13:01:02] <systemd> ^ 03Snoopy - Flashbeagle *Best Quality*
[13:04:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> i liked a lot of metal until i grew the fuck up. it's angry young man music for the most part. some of it does stand the test of time though.
[13:05:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, that's the beagle
[13:07:07] <FatPhil> YEah, I'm more into the technical metal, usually the lyrics are a waste of time and very little effort.
[13:08:57] <FatPhil> My favourite "metal" isn't even metal, it's blues-influenced proto-metal, or jazz-influenced prog-metal.
[13:09:37] <FatPhil> But lizard-brain stuff is fun. I won't hear a bad word said against Bon Scott era AC/DC.
[13:11:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm mostly a AC/DC, black sabbath, megadeth, and iron maiden kind of guy on metal nowadays. for lizard brain i mostly go for punk.
[13:15:44] <FatPhil> all good, I have plenty of all of that in my CD collection.
[13:16:36] <FatPhil> I'm always happy to see people list megadeth but not metallica in their shortlists. I do like early metallica, but I prefer megadeth, it's smarter metal.
[13:17:31] <FatPhil> metallica is classic "angry young man music"
[13:28:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> early metallica i dug quite a bit but once they made it abundantly clear that they were in it for the money rather than the art (the napster debacle), they ceased to have any claim to the "angry young man" scene.
[13:30:51] <FatPhil> now they're angry white men who send their daughters to ballet lessons.
[13:33:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> act more like angry old bankers
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[13:38:49] <FatPhil> Metallica at their best, but perhaps showing some frayed ends: https://www.youtube.com
[13:38:51] <systemd> ^ 03Metallica - Master of Puppets (Sock Puppet Parody)
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[13:42:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[13:43:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> this still wins though: https://www.youtube.com
[13:43:29] <systemd> ^ 03Sweating Bullets (Remastered 2012)
[13:50:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn, forgot panterra for some reason
[13:51:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> and forgot how to spell pantera too
[13:53:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, trash day then i gotta get off my ass and do stuff. no more time for arguing on the site or digging on old metal.
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[14:05:12] <FatPhil> Ooooh, has WSB hit AG?
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[14:10:02] <AzumaHazuki> that was a stupid fuckin' shift. tube system shat itself, we were busier than a one-armed bricklater with an itchy scalp, and overall i am glad it's done with
[14:12:01] <c0lo> Smile, tomorrow willl be worse.
[14:14:17] <AzumaHazuki> that is a distinct possibility. friday definitely will as it's 12 hours of "IV training," which in practice will mean "about 6 hours IV training and the rest you'll be doing everything BUT the rounds, just like how when you're on rounds you do everything BUT the IVs because your coworkers kinda suck"
[14:14:59] <c0lo> =submit https://www.traveller.com.au
[14:15:47] <c0lo> Hey, Bytram, systemd misbehaves again.
[14:15:56] <c0lo> #submit https://www.traveller.com.au
[14:15:57] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[14:16:12] <AzumaHazuki> is anyone surprised by systemd being shit?
[14:16:22] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[14:18:23] <c0lo> This one is for Runaway1956, 'ts bout somebody close to his old heart https://www.aljazeera.com
[14:19:28] <c0lo> #submit https://www.aljazeera.com
[14:19:28] <MrPlow> Unable to find a title for that page
[14:19:42] <Bytram> c0lo: FYI, I do not maintain any bots; systemd it maintained by chromas
[14:19:57] <requerdanos> =blame
[14:19:57] * systemd points at Bytram
[14:20:02] <requerdanos> just checking :)
[14:20:04] <c0lo> Ah, Ok. Apologies
[14:20:12] <Bytram> np!
[14:20:24] * AzumaHazuki LOLs @ the proud boy leader being a stoolie
[14:20:43] <AzumaHazuki> is not huge surprise, but still funny
[14:21:18] <c0lo> chromas, quit clowing and kick systemd in the guts. In you own time, I mean. Please.
[14:21:39] <c0lo> s/clowing/clowning/
[14:21:57] <requerdanos> sedbot too, I guess
[14:22:07] <c0lo> chromas, the sad bot too.
[14:22:11] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: systemd may occasionally have its faults, but it has proven near indispensable for the editorial team.
[14:22:36] <AzumaHazuki> switch to openrc in my opinion :v
[14:22:54] <c0lo> Even more a thing to kick chromasass.
[14:22:58] * Runaway1956 pats systemd on his flat little head
[14:23:05] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: not following you there
[14:23:24] <AzumaHazuki> is joke, or half joking anyway
[14:23:53] <c0lo> End of shift joking, yes.
[14:23:57] <Bytram> oh, k. /me is still under-caffeinated, too.
[14:24:22] <Runaway1956> End of time joking, no.
[14:24:36] <Runaway1956> Time to reboot universe.
[14:24:41] <Bytram> =yt end of the world as we know it REM
[14:24:42] <systemd> https://youtube.com - R.E.M. - It's The End Of The World (Official Video) (04:04; 30,339,597 views; đź‘Ť193,854 đź‘Ž5,534)
[14:25:12] <c0lo> Bytram, throw a bucket of cold coffee over chromas face, please.
[14:25:28] <Runaway1956> coldcoffee--
[14:25:28] <Bender> karma - coldtea: 1
[14:25:41] <Runaway1956> coffee++
[14:25:41] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5478
[14:25:42] <c0lo> I can't submit al-jazeera stories
[14:25:43] <Bytram> c0lo: nope. not my jerb.
[14:25:57] <Runaway1956> Sure you can - do it manually
[14:26:03] <Runaway1956> it's like masturbating
[14:26:05] <c0lo> I sed "please", Bytram.
[14:26:06] <Bytram> c0lo: try: https://soylentnews.org
[14:26:24] <Bytram> ;)
[14:26:42] * FatPhil terks bertrerm jerb and throws cold coffee over chromas
[14:27:01] <FatPhil> bots--
[14:27:01] <Bender> karma - bots: -46
[14:27:27] <Bytram> FatPhil: like a celebratory tub of Gatorade?
[14:27:31] <c0lo> I tried in the past. One of you editors has said that bot submission was preferable.
[14:27:52] <Runaway1956> Since when do we care what editors prefer?
[14:28:05] * Runaway1956 needs a moar abusive bot
[14:28:35] <c0lo> I don't know who "we" are by your definition, Runaway1956.
[14:28:59] <c0lo> =smake Runaway1956
[14:28:59] <Runaway1956> "we" the unwilling, led by the unknowing,
[14:29:31] <Bytram> c0lo: yes, and no. If someone submits a story, leaves out all the links, and the italics, and the bolding, then that does make more work for editors than some bot subs.
[14:29:32] <c0lo> bots--
[14:29:32] <Bender> karma - bots: -47
[14:29:42] <Bytram> bots++
[14:29:42] <Bender> karma - bots: -46
[14:29:54] <c0lo> bots--
[14:29:54] <Bender> karma - bots: -47
[14:29:59] <Bytram> bots++
[14:29:59] <Bender> karma - bots: -46
[14:30:05] <Bytram> ;^)
[14:30:12] <c0lo> bits++
[14:30:12] <Bender> karma - bits: 1
[14:30:23] <Runaway1956> https://www.goodreads.com
[14:30:30] <Bytram> what we need is a bot that periodically wakes up and does: bots++
[14:31:23] <Bytram> ^^^ “We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, we are now qualified to do anything with nothing.” ― Konstantin Josef Jireček
[14:31:35] <Runaway1956> Aren't we party to a bot antiproliferation treaty?
[14:32:07] <Bytram> =yt party every day
[14:32:08] <systemd> https://youtube.com - The Black Eyed Peas - I Gotta Feeling (Official Music Video) (04:52; 506,386,415 views; đź‘Ť2,534,086 đź‘Ž75,983)
[14:32:14] <c0lo> Yes, a bohemian.
[14:32:30] <Bytram> =yt I want to rock and roll all night and party every day
[14:32:31] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Kiss - Rock And Roll All Nite (From Kiss eXposed) (04:02; 22,422,735 views; đź‘Ť164,597 đź‘Ž4,533)
[14:32:35] <Runaway1956> Too early to party - first cup of coffee still too hot to chug
[14:33:01] <Bytram> protip: add ice cube or some cold water.
[14:33:25] <c0lo> protip switch to espresso
[14:33:39] <Bytram> if it thins out too much, use less water or more grounds when making coffee.
[14:34:30] <c0lo> protip: don't bother with liquids, just chew coffee beans
[14:36:47] <FatPhil> roasted, and covered in dark chocolate? fuck yeah!
[14:37:00] <c0lo> chroooomaaaasss.... aaasss... assss. The boooots... ooots.... ts... s.
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[14:57:19] * c0lo yeah, naaaah, mate
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[15:14:41] <chromas> yay, disk errors!
[15:15:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA is Sending a Helicopter to Mars, but What For? - https://sylnt.us - flying-drones-on-Mars
[15:15:44] <chromas> also since when does dmesg require root?
[15:28:52] <FatPhil> chromas: ls -l /dev/kmsg
[15:29:37] <FatPhil> there was a security push by some to make that 600 a decade back, but it didn't stick.
[15:29:59] <FatPhil> if you can cat that file, you can dmesg, theoretically
[15:30:21] <chromas> I s'pose that makes sense, but if I wanted security I'd be running windows
[15:30:24] <chromas> er
[15:31:10] <Bytram> afk for a while
[15:33:47] <chromas> intedasting. I can't cat it even though it's set to r for world
[15:33:52] <FatPhil> I can dmesg as luser, so it's your distro's choice, get a better distro!
[15:34:01] <chromas> must be a speshul "operation not permitted" error
[15:34:15] <chromas> because it's different from the usual permission denied
[15:34:58] <FatPhil> ah, one of my machines has the same thing
[15:35:40] <chromas> this change is fairly recent, like within the last couple weeks or so, I'm pretty sure
[15:36:23] <FatPhil> open("/dev/kmsg", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted)
[15:36:55] <chromas> did they put in a special snowflake exception for that file instead of just changing the permission?
[15:39:15] <FatPhil> SECURITY_DMESG_RESTRICT
[15:39:28] <FatPhil> sysctl: kernel.dmesg_restrict
[15:39:56] <FatPhil> yeah, file permissions are so 1970s, why bother using them to manage file permissions, that's just crazy talk.
[15:40:22] <chromas> I wonder what kind of advantage there is vs just using file permissions
[15:40:32] <chromas> besides introducing more code to debug later
[15:40:48] <FatPhil> moar coad!
[15:41:13] <FatPhil> no bugs, nothing to debug, blue skies as far as the eye can see (from this basement)
[15:41:17] <FatPhil> sudo sysctl kernel.dmesg_restrict=0
[15:41:58] <FatPhil> verified works here
[15:43:24] <chromas> Same here, after I managed to spell it correctly :)
[15:43:27] <chromas> Thanks mang
[15:43:29] <chromas> FatPhil++
[15:43:29] <Bender> karma - fatphil: 101
[15:44:38] <FatPhil> np
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[17:45:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Inequality in Medieval Cambridge was 'Recorded on the Bones' of its Residents - https://sylnt.us - roll-the-bones
[18:41:27] <Runaway1956> What a pain in the ass - just configured a zyxel modem as a wireless repeater, so the kid has WIFI out to his camper
[18:41:52] <Runaway1956> Took almost an hour to get the configuration right, now I can only hope that it has the power to reach the base station
[18:42:25] <Runaway1956> I hate when they hide settings within a proprietary cluster of pages that are non-intuitive
[18:50:25] <Runaway1956> Oh yeah - funny thing about the family - no one seems to understand that each leg of a wireless network MUST HAVE a unique IP DHCP address
[18:50:49] <Runaway1956> sticking two routers near each other with the same IP address totally borks the system
[19:22:47] <chromas> You can set one to be just an access point so it looks to the other for dhcp
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[20:16:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Aerion Supersonic AS2: New Supersonic Jet Undergoes Testing as Giant Manufacturing Plant Unveiled - https://sylnt.us
[20:43:49] <Runaway1956> Perfectly true, chromas - the trick was to find the page with the settings I was looking for.
[20:44:30] <Runaway1956> Proprietary crap is proprietary, and they don't make it easy.
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[22:46:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - China Rolls out Anal Swab Coronavirus Test, Saying It’s More Accurate than Throat Method - https://sylnt.us - more-than-a-passing-interest
[22:58:34] <chromas> Ask Soylent: What's the best mail server distro?
[22:59:27] <chromas> I'm running it on arch right now (btw I use arch) but since the HDD's dying, I figured maybe I could be a little more responsible on the new setup
[23:10:24] <chromas> China test
[23:10:29] <chromas> the swap wipes itself on the way out
[23:10:35] <chromas> s/p/b/
[23:10:55] <chromas> is it a two-ply swab?
[23:11:49] <chromas> we should get pornhub to conduct a survey to find out if anal or throat swabbing is more popular
[23:12:48] <chromas> looks like China prefers to roll underhand
[23:15:42] <chromas> america was right about chinese back doors