#soylent | Logs for 2021-01-25
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[00:16:27] <AzumaHazuki> WTAF. Wow. https://www.insider.com
[00:16:28] <systemd> ^ 03Texas: Lord of the Rings referenced in pro-Trump lawyer's vote lawsuit - Insider
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[01:06:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - One Hull Crack Located in ISS, Another One Suspected - https://sylnt.us
[01:16:49] <Runaway1956> <AzumaHazuki> WTAF. Wow. https://www.insider.com
[01:17:15] <Runaway1956> LOL, Sauron sits in the Oval Office, why not reference LOTR?
[02:00:12] <raxas> new gender problem on the loose: playing cards
[02:01:38] <raxas> I wonder if those cultists and their beasts controllers will tolerate such mutilation of Tarot too
[02:03:41] <AzumaHazuki> why does this channel attract so many angsty right-wing weirdos?
[02:05:37] <raxas> it's a real thing, unfortunately
[02:05:40] <raxas> https://www.americanthinker.com
[02:07:16] <raxas> haha systemdead again. and you killed it, azuma
[02:10:21] <raxas> obviously, red cards are communnist and should be removed from all decks. only black cards matter!
[02:10:33] <AzumaHazuki> you sound really upset about something
[02:10:35] <AzumaHazuki> a lot of somethings
[02:11:15] <raxas> yes, I am waiting for cuberpunk2077 patch update download again
[02:11:17] <AzumaHazuki> oh, "American Thinker." There's a misnomer if i ever heard one
[02:11:42] <AzumaHazuki> what is it like to be this weak, this paranoid, to assume that the entire world that doesn't look and act and think exactly like you is out to get you?
[02:15:13] <raxas> it is a perfect feeling, when everything is a danger, there is no place for betrayal
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[02:19:17] <raxas> probably the best mix ever for this particular song https://www.youtube.com
[02:19:19] <systemd> ^ 03【GMV】Devil Devil
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[02:40:44] <chromas> azuma goes out, c0lo comes in. coincidence?
[02:41:17] <pinchy> is it tag team sunday?
[02:41:45] <chromas> I was hoping for Double-Team Tuesday
[02:42:51] * Bytram could go for Hot-Fudge Sundae Sunday
[02:45:38] <c0lo> Total coincidence.
[02:46:35] <c0lo> Not gonna stay tuned, tho', only 39C outside.
[02:56:16] <Bytram> 21F here, but wind chill makes it just 7F (or -6C/-17C)
[02:58:48] * TheMightyBuzzard runs in with a folding chair
[03:02:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> so TR and i had to watch frozen again after i told him about the evil trolls theory. upon thorough review, it's either psychotic writing that makes no sense at all or the trolls in fact were the bad guys. and they won.
[03:04:07] * Bytram must be one of the very few people on this planet who has not seen Frozen
[03:04:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> plus i got to tease the shit out of a teenage girl who used to watch it five times a day and ran around the house singing do you wanna build a snowman the entire rest of the day
[03:04:24] <Bytram> though today
[03:04:42] <Bytram> though today's weather most certainly qualifies
[03:05:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather
[03:05:55] <Bytram> supposed to warm up to just barely freezing tomorrow... a veritable heat wave!
[03:05:56] <MrPlow> 1576 East Main St, Humboldt, TN 38343, USA - Today: "Heavy rain until afternoon, starting again overnight." 48/46F, Humidity: 82%, Precip: 85%, Wind ~5mph. Mon: "Rain until evening." 67/44F, Humidity: 89%, Precip: 100%, Wind ~13mph. Tue: "Clear throughout the day." 57/34F, Humidity: 78%, Precip: 11%, Wind ~8mph.
[03:06:21] <c0lo> #weather
[03:06:21] <MrPlow> No location found for c0lo
[03:06:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> wasn't any heavy rain at all today. scattered light showers.
[03:06:38] <c0lo> #weather Melbourne Au
[03:06:40] <MrPlow> 260 Elizabeth St, Melbourne VIC 3000, Australia - Today: "Rain overnight." 100/69F, Humidity: 31%, Precip: 26%, Wind ~11mph. Tue: "Rain in the morning and afternoon." 70/56F, Humidity: 76%, Precip: 86%, Wind ~10mph. Wed: "Partly cloudy throughout the day." 75/60F, Humidity: 63%, Precip: 7%, Wind ~10mph.
[03:07:22] <Bytram> #weather boca chica, TX
[03:07:23] <MrPlow> 4911 Boca Chica, Henderson County, TX 75148, USA - Today: "Possible light rain starting in the afternoon." 65/64F, Humidity: 93%, Precip: 70%, Wind ~7mph. Mon: "Rain in the morning." 68/42F, Humidity: 69%, Precip: 70%, Wind ~12mph. Tue: "Clear throughout the day." 65/44F, Humidity: 66%, Precip: 6%, Wind ~5mph.
[03:07:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> 100 one day, 70 the next? shit, and i thought we had variable weather
[03:08:09] <c0lo> Cool change in progress tho' dropped to 31C in the last couple of hours
[03:08:58] <Bytram> heck I've seen 30 degree shifts in a single day, esp late spring / early summer
[03:09:03] <c0lo> Melbourne, the city with 4 season in a day.
[03:10:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://torrentfreak.com
[03:10:07] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[03:10:17] <c0lo> Gets hot from the north (central desert), when the wind changes from the Souther Ocean, you can get 25C drop in temp in a couple of hours.
[03:10:32] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[03:11:06] * Bytram broke out the area space heater for the first time this season on account of a steady 15 mph (25-30 mph gust) NW wind
[03:11:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> 30 degree shifts in a day ain't that spectacular. between two days' highs or two days' lows is much weirder.
[03:13:48] <Bytram> nod nod, but it's not that uncommon to see a sudden cold front come thru in the summer and knock things down 30F for a couple days from preceding highs
[03:14:38] <Bytram> that said, it's time for bed
[03:14:51] <Bytram> have a good night everybody!
[03:16:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> =groff Bytram
[03:16:36] * systemd enthusiastically uninstalls a Borg cube of BASS from Bytram
[03:17:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.rt.com
[03:17:39] <systemd> ^ 03California church known for anti-LGBT beliefs is BOMBED… and county official's answer is ‘unity’ to address ‘hate issues’
[03:19:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.rt.com
[03:19:19] <systemd> ^ 03Reporter critical of Antifa flees US amid threats as ‘POLITICAL REFUGEE,’ decades after his parents arrived as asylum seekers
[03:22:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.rt.com
[03:22:27] <systemd> ^ 03Rowdy youth torch Covid-19 testing site in Netherlands as nighttime curfew triggers unrest (VIDEOS)
[03:23:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> 2020s will go down in history as the decade that stupidity broke the entire fucking world.
[03:23:37] <c0lo> There's something about the cello https://youtu.be
[03:23:39] <systemd> ^ 03The WALKING WATER Mystery (in SPACE and SLOW MOTION!) - Smarter Every Day 160 ( https://www.youtube.com )
[03:24:26] * c0lo sees TheMightyBuzzard brain rot progressing in realtime
[03:26:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> well, yeah. s'called getting old. get a mirror, cause it's happening to you too.
[03:29:36] <c0lo> Sure, 'cept I'm not using rt.com for rotting my brain
[03:29:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'interestin how you think me linking shit that has actually, indisputably happened marks cognitive decline though. that really don't speak to any mental abnormalities on MY part
[03:29:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'more reliable than US news
[03:30:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> unless you care about russian politics or russian-us relations
[03:30:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> pretty fucking cool cello thing though
[03:31:04] <c0lo> At least try to confirm them independently, RT is happy to quote whatever fairy stories serve the purpose of their Kremlin masters.
[03:31:43] <c0lo> Rewind to 0 if you need the context.
[03:32:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> unlike the US "news" outlets, rt links their sources
[03:33:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> so it's dead easy to confirm
[03:35:03] <chromas> I like BBC because it always tells me at the end of each article that I can be sure to trust BBC
[03:35:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> listen and believe, yep
[03:47:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Discord-Stealing Malware Invades NPM Packages - https://sylnt.us - validate-your-source,-Luke!
[03:53:26] <c0lo> Gosh, every time I get to a smoke today, I'm finding my cat on the laptop's keyboard. A good thing the meeting request didn't get sent with the cat typing.
[04:05:20] <chromas> —c0lo's cat
[04:06:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> c0loscat++
[04:06:19] <Bender> karma - c0loscat: 1
[04:06:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'what your laptop gets for being all warm
[04:07:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[04:07:32] <systemd> ^ 03Tungsten Thor's Hammer (World's HEAVIEST)
[04:18:30] <raxas> c0lo: it's a signal your cat is a true owner of the laptop, not you. try to gift the cat some other laptop wreck so you both own one, a fair share of property
[04:25:16] <raxas> it works with chairs
[05:14:02] <c0lo> =yt EVbdbVhzcM4
[05:14:03] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Two Vortex Rings Colliding in SLOW MOTION - Smarter Every Day 195 (08:39; 12,887,758 views; 👍406,728 👎7,331)
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[05:36:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> one for c0lo before i sleep: https://www.youtube.com
[05:36:40] <systemd> ^ 03Slow Motion Flipping Cat Physics
[06:17:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Technique Builds Super-Hard Metals From Nanoparticles - https://sylnt.us
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[07:20:59] <c0lo> Why the plane propellers look weird on electronic cameras https://www.youtube.com
[07:21:02] <systemd> ^ 03Rolling Shutter Explained (Why Do Cameras Do This?) - Smarter Every Day 172
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[08:00:32] <chromas> so if I want to replace my cheapo netgear router, should I get a box that can run opnsense or should I man up and learn2iptables?
[08:01:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> iptables ain't hard but folks are trying hard to deprecate it
[08:02:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> nftables is the shiny and new hotness
[08:03:03] <chromas> is that a systemd thing?
[08:03:19] <chromas> and shouldn't they start with nfchains first?
[08:03:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, and yes they should
[08:03:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.netfilter.org
[08:03:42] <systemd> ^ 03netfilter/iptables project homepage - The netfilter.org "nftables" project
[08:04:31] <chromas> less code duplication. wtf is this?
[08:05:02] <chromas> I think we need a new system where the firewall is a userspace daemon and all the datas to be filtered are passed around using dbus
[08:05:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> after xml encapsulation?
[08:05:42] <chromas> of course!
[08:06:45] <chromas> and even though xml is extensible, we'll require new features to be in xml-embedded json blocks
[08:07:13] <chromas> because it's hip and trendy and makes it easier to administer the firewall from a proton app
[08:08:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> true, true. ideally all linux admin tools should be on steam
[08:09:17] <chromas> or epic game store
[08:10:01] <chromas> that way you can only buy one or two feature expansion packs per day without your credit card being flagged for fraud
[08:10:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> that way you don't have to worry with the distro's package manager if you don't have a tool installed, just fire steam up on the server and do whatever you need to
[08:10:32] <chromas> does steam have wayland support though? all servers should br running wayland by now
[08:11:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> specially headless ones
[08:12:04] <chromas> "The nftables kernel engine adds a simple virtual machine into the Linux kernel, which is able to execute bytecode to inspect a network packet…"
[08:12:10] <chromas> well that doesn't sound exploitable
[08:12:43] <chromas> but on the other hand, I wonder if someone could write an irc bot in nftables bytecode
[08:13:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno but you should try. you don't have nearly enough to keep you out of trouble yet.
[08:13:54] <chromas> probably too hardcore for me
[08:14:02] <raxas> you guys are beyond redemption
[08:14:04] <chromas> unless someone's made a qbasic-to-nftables compiler
[08:14:19] <chromas> or a fuse driver to access the rules as a filesystem
[08:14:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, brilliant!
[08:14:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> raxas, probably but it's fun being us.
[08:14:48] <chromas> there's one for youtue
[08:14:51] <chromas> youtube
[08:15:15] <raxas> did you ever see the steam code from inside, a piece of bugs infested shit
[08:15:18] <chromas> fuck, everything's got a fuse driver now. there's even a window manager
[08:15:49] <chromas> I guess fuse is the plan9 hero we need
[08:16:15] <raxas> fuse is vulnerable to deadlocks, filesystem does not belong to userspace
[08:16:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, never looked at it.
[08:16:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth
[08:18:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> mkay, gotta be up in less than three hours. think i'll go have a smoke then read a book for another hour or so.
[08:25:57] <chromas> got a bittorrent? there's a fuse for that! got reddit? there's a fuse for that! got doom wads, windows registry hives, or emojis? there's a fuse for that!
[08:27:35] <raxas> I remember old times when microsoft was thinking filesystem should be a database
[08:28:00] <raxas> they were cured very soon from such stupidity
[08:29:46] <chromas> poor ol' winfs
[08:29:54] <raxas> today, there is only one true filesystem out there
[08:29:57] <raxas> zfs
[08:30:13] <chromas> ah yes, btrfs, you say
[08:30:34] <raxas> everything else is just a toy
[08:30:53] <raxas> btrfs is a perfect ssd killer
[08:30:55] <chromas> because I don't want my filesystem to keep working after one of the disks dies
[08:32:06] <raxas> ask torvalds why he does not want zfs in kernel, now for decades
[08:33:32] <chromas> it wasn't loicensing issues followed by nih?
[08:35:39] <raxas> politics. denied by ibm viciously, would devalue their platforms
[08:39:33] <chromas> can we even trust Linus anymore after he had his balls removed?
[08:41:31] <raxas> I do not trust linux since I had to patch the usb stack myself for my funny macro keyboard and joystick crashing the kernel by just having too many axes
[08:42:59] <raxas> after about 16 years on linux (since debian 2.1) up to gentoo, I went finally freebsd in 2014
[08:44:07] <raxas> the true reason was better network stack, ipv6 tunnels were broken on linux badly
[08:44:33] <raxas> overall network performance in fbsd was much better on the same machines
[08:45:37] <Ingar> ext4 forever
[08:45:44] <Ingar> can still mount it as ext2 on my 386
[08:45:45] <raxas> had a 3d mouse with 19 buttons and 9 axes, crashed the kernel too, that one
[08:45:59] <raxas> thats not what I call a robust operating system
[08:47:08] <chromas> 3d connextion?
[08:47:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Record-Breaking Laser Link Could Provide Test Of Einstein's Theory - https://sylnt.us
[08:47:35] <Ingar> raxas: a locked up a PC yesterday by inserting a USB stck, the platform sucks to begin with
[08:48:44] <Ingar> also, debian an gentoo. auch.
[08:48:46] <raxas> rat9 some old model. I have 3d connection too, that's a real shit, drivers for win are 16/32bit only
[08:48:47] <Ingar> *and
[08:52:45] <c0lo> Before getting to write your firewall in golang bytecode, can you do sumtin about systemd walking astray of irc?
[08:54:32] <raxas> is somewhere a public source of this contraption?
[08:55:01] <raxas> and I hate golang, that's the cia toy
[08:56:27] <raxas> my style of coding is syscalls in macroassembler, I do not need funny compilers. just nasm and linker
[09:05:05] <raxas> found the correct sedbot, foobarbazbot's, may be fun too, that one. awk is my friend
[09:06:28] <raxas> rustbot is mrplow maybe
[09:09:13] <raxas> rust is surely invulnerable language, everyone's believing that today
[09:10:52] <raxas> I have some idea, systemd died on one of my links tonight, there may be some interesting moji on that page
[09:11:52] <raxas> americanthinker, I'll check the page later
[09:24:11] <chromas> my favorite part of go is the forced k&r braces
[09:24:35] <chromas> or at least the opening one. I don't think it cares with the closing bracket
[09:25:16] <raxas> well, if sudenly systemd is some previous incarnation of mrplow, just bury it deep
[09:26:22] <chromas> systemd is written in...d
[09:27:24] cron is now known as SedBot
[09:28:05] <chromas> MrPlow is rust, as you suspected, though previously was perl
[09:31:21] <chromas> I seem to recall MrPlow being rustbot related but maybe not
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[10:15:59] <raxas> let's probe
[10:16:04] * raxas yawns
[10:16:04] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into raxas's gaping mouth
[10:16:10] <raxas> good
[10:18:30] <requerdanos> #weather
[10:18:31] <MrPlow> Beck's Restaurant, 1014 River Rd, Calabash, NC 28467, USA - Today: "Light rain in the morning and afternoon." 58/57F, Humidity: 89%, Precip: 82%, Wind ~7mph. Tue: "Possible light rain overnight." 67/55F, Humidity: 86%, Precip: 41%, Wind ~12mph. Wed: "Rain throughout the day." 57/42F, Humidity: 90%, Precip: 99%, Wind ~9mph.
[10:21:40] <raxas> #smakeadd One Salty Tuna
[10:21:40] <MrPlow> "One Salty Tuna" added.
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[10:22:05] <raxas> #smakeadd Sky Breaker
[10:22:05] <MrPlow> "Sky Breaker" added.
[10:22:24] <raxas> #smakeadd AI-chan's Crutch
[10:22:24] <MrPlow> "AI-chan's Crutch" added.
[10:22:42] <raxas> #smakeadd Pulse Katana Type-19
[10:22:42] <MrPlow> "Pulse Katana Type-19" added.
[10:23:04] <raxas> #smakeadd Raikiri
[10:23:04] <MrPlow> "Raikiri" added.
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[10:28:49] <raxas> #smakeadd Plasma Kagehide
[10:28:54] <MrPlow> "Plasma Kagehide" added.
[10:29:24] <raxas> #smakeadd CAS-II Namiko
[10:29:24] <MrPlow> "CAS-II Namiko" added.
[10:30:25] <chromas> #sammichadd One Salty Tuna
[10:30:25] <MrPlow> "One Salty Tuna" added.
[10:38:10] <raxas> #smakeadd Core of Reason
[10:38:10] <MrPlow> "Core of Reason" added.
[10:38:50] <raxas> #smakeadd Enhanced Project Bunny-19C in USAGI Kinetik mode
[10:38:50] <MrPlow> "Enhanced Project Bunny-19C in USAGI Kinetik mode" added.
[10:39:08] <raxas> that's enough :]
[10:39:46] <c0lo> #smakeadd that's enough
[10:39:46] <MrPlow> "that's enough" added.
[10:41:06] <chromas> #sammichadd vegemite
[10:41:06] <MrPlow> "vegemite" added.
[10:41:16] <chromas> #sammich
[10:41:16] * MrPlow whips up a ham sammich for chromas
[11:07:49] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[11:07:51] <systemd> ^ 03CREAM - WE GOT THAT B ROLL!!
[11:07:58] <chromas> s/b roll/fuse/
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[11:15:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Patents Chatbot Technology to Revive Dead Loved Ones - https://sylnt.us - prior-art?
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[12:17:14] <Smokey0> https://livecd.hacking-lab.com
[13:46:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Arecibo Replacement Could Support Space Situational Awareness - https://sylnt.us - watching-the-skies
[15:33:01] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.zerohedge.com
[15:33:02] <systemd> Submitting "ZeroHedge"...
[15:33:24] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03ZeroHedge" (12p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[16:16:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Military Intelligence Buys Location Data Instead Of Getting Warrants, Memo Shows - https://sylnt.us - buying-in-bulk-just-in-case
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[16:52:59] <AzumaHazuki> another unjust spam mod https://soylentnews.org
[16:53:00] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | the showdown begins ( https://soylentnews.org )
[16:53:32] <AzumaHazuki> i will bet it's the same person as the one who did the last one, too. Bytram: going to ask you to handle this one as it's clear Uzzard is biased and unfit to judge these matters
[17:06:12] <FatPhil> That particular one was *double* spam modded
[17:06:47] <AzumaHazuki> I saw. By Uzzard himself if that's an admission i see
[17:07:17] <FatPhil> Looks like there are at least 5 near-identical posts. Looks like spam to me.
[17:08:13] <AzumaHazuki> 5 exactly identical ones? okay, yeah, that may count then
[17:08:35] <FatPhil> not checked all of them ...
[17:10:05] <FatPhil> yup, all links are jpost story id 656440, only difference between posts is a throwaway snark
[17:10:38] <requerdanos> OTOH, the jpost article is dead on topic and refutes the "Evil Warmongering Biden In Syria" idea.
[17:12:27] <FatPhil> Yes, it's possible to present a valid point in an undesirable way.
[17:12:50] <FatPhil> The 5 posts all appeared before the first downmod arrived.
[17:13:59] <requerdanos> Although the posts technically meet part of the spam definition of the mod guidelines, I don't think in practice they rise to spam. I respectfully acknowledge that opinions vary.
[17:14:03] <FatPhil> I was going to post to the thread myself with a similar point, as IIRC, there's been a steady build-up in that region since ~Oct 2019.
[17:43:02] <Ingar> 2019? that sounds mildly optimistic
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[17:56:12] <Runaway1956> Please see my response to the spam post mentioned above.
[17:56:22] <Runaway1956> Now, fekkin' Facebook:
[17:56:43] <Runaway1956> I get word that a former co-worker wants me to friend him on FB.
[17:56:55] <Runaway1956> I do a search for him, can't find him.
[17:57:07] <FatPhil> Ingar: in what way?
[17:57:10] <Runaway1956> Try to expand the search, and I get "some results are hidden"
[17:57:32] <Runaway1956> No matter how I try to search for him, can't find him, periot
[17:57:54] <Runaway1956> Meanwhile I'm temporarily allowing FB script permissions within the browser
[17:57:57] <FatPhil> Runaway1956: which of the 5?
[17:58:18] <Runaway1956> soon enough, my CPU is racing trying to keep up with FB scripting requests
[17:58:34] <Runaway1956> Fatphil - I responded to the linked spam post above - wait one.
[17:58:49] <Runaway1956> https://soylentnews.org
[17:58:50] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | the showdown begins ( https://soylentnews.org )
[17:59:53] <Runaway1956> Basically, establishment and progressive elements within the US government usurped the authority of the CinC
[18:02:13] <FatPhil> there's nothing progressive about that stance
[18:02:25] <FatPhil> I remember when words had meanings...
[18:03:10] <Runaway1956> Liberal used to mean something, too
[18:04:03] <Runaway1956> Today, lib/dem/progressives have corrupted many words that used to have meaning, including fascist and Nazi.
[18:35:13] <bacteria> fascism never had a clear meaning
[18:35:56] <bacteria> and nazi is as meaningful as ever today
[18:37:16] <janrinok> The words have very clear definitions - but people misuse them to suit their own purposes
[18:44:31] <raxas> a human word is just a program, a meaning is a result if its execution in mind. consciousness just collects those results
[18:44:53] <raxas> word is not a problem, nor is the consciousness, the mind is
[18:45:33] <Runaway1956> We should probably have a buy-back program, and get some minds off the streets.
[18:45:38] <Runaway1956> Think of the children!
[18:48:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Booting Linux and Sideloading Apps on M1 Macs - https://sylnt.us - Penguin-believed-to-be-ARM'd-and-dangerous
[18:51:26] <raxas> =submit https://www.ceitec.eu
[18:51:28] <systemd> Submitting "Scientists Designed New Supramolecular Materials Inspired by Processes Found in Nature"...
[18:51:50] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Scientists Designed New Supramolecular Materials Inspired by Processes Found in Nature" (12p) -> https://soylentnews.org
[18:58:22] <raxas> Brno is such a magical city, like Shambhala or Agartha. anything is possible to happen in Brno. I rarely dare to travel there, it's dangerous to sanity. now they got some supramolecular magic, may be even more dangerous
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[19:27:03] <chromas> FatPhil: progressives aren't progressive, so
[19:28:41] <chromas> I like to call them regressives because they're the current-year version of yesterday's puritans
[19:29:10] <chromas> but instead of video games teaching kids to be violent, now they teach sexism
[19:36:54] <Bytram> =g metamorphosis picture optical illusion
[19:36:55] <systemd> https://www.pinterest.com - Optical Illusion Art | Scary Website | Illusion pictures, Metamorphosis ...
[19:38:04] <bacteria> i am pretty sure people who call themselves "progressive" mean by that they are ahead of the rest, or perhaps intend to get ahead of the rest either in cultural development or in ethics (good luck with the last one...)
[19:45:32] <chromas> my ethics are better than yours. agree and update your views or I'll start a tweetstorm campaign
[19:48:02] <raxas> only machine ethics is relevant to progress now, obsolete human ethics is not
[19:49:59] <chromas> machine ethics are derived from human ones
[19:51:35] <bacteria> satan++
[19:51:35] <Bender> karma - satan: 7
[19:55:16] <raxas> not true. proof: I can build a machine with ethics not derived from human ethics any day of week. so as any other psycho could
[19:55:42] <chromas> but have you?
[19:56:25] <raxas> not yet. but it's just code. ethics is some program just like others
[19:57:24] <raxas> so, if you want to survive, first you need to create ethical operating systems
[19:57:34] <chromas> the googles and the amazons and anyone else with the money to create the next skynet are just putting their own ethics through the big deep-learn
[19:57:42] <raxas> so far, you have none. every single one is subverted to evil
[19:58:10] <raxas> next, there goes the same with public platforms
[19:58:23] <raxas> you all failed on this very badly
[19:58:26] <chromas> what public platforms tho?
[19:58:51] <raxas> socnets, media, generally any dataspaces
[19:59:03] <FatPhil> Usenet!
[19:59:05] <raxas> dataspace is the key paradigm
[19:59:06] <chromas> but muh private platforms
[19:59:49] <FatPhil> I dislike the word "platform" for those, they aren't platforms, they are hosted environments.
[20:00:18] <chromas> they're platform shoes
[20:00:22] <chromas> they prop up the baby spice
[20:00:25] <raxas> to me, platform is a dataspace with an execution model augmented to it
[20:00:50] <Bytram> would hosted shoes then be high heels?
[20:01:25] <FatPhil> those aren't platform shoes - these are platform shoes: https://www.youtube.com
[20:01:26] <systemd> ^ 03Flyguy Pimpin' * Antonio Fargas as Flyguy * From the Movie * I'm Gonna Git You Sucka*
[20:01:35] <Bytram> execution model? Like in "kill all the people"?
[20:01:51] <FatPhil> kill all poor people, surely?
[20:02:03] <raxas> luxury was always in contradiction to wisdom. wisdom shall be humble and modest. machine wisdom doubly so
[20:02:04] <Bytram> I'm not surly!
[20:02:17] <FatPhil> to me a platform is a data model with an execution model.
[20:03:05] <FatPhil> your platform is an instantiation of my platform
[20:03:19] <Bytram> To me, a meal is a prelude to a nap.
[20:03:51] <Bytram> After a couple tasty turkey sandwiches, I'm more than ready.
[20:05:26] <Bytram> Pro tip: replace mustard or mayonnaise with liberal dashes of creamy, zesty Italian dressing
[20:05:55] <FatPhil> pro tip: replace mayonnaise with anothing in order to improve everything with mayonnaise.
[20:06:13] <FatPhil> s/ a/ /
[20:06:14] <SedBot> <FatPhil> pro tip: replace mayonnaise with nothing in order to improve everything with mayonnaise.
[20:06:36] <FatPhil> or s/ano/any/
[20:06:41] <Bytram> there
[20:06:56] <FatPhil> mayonnaise--
[20:06:56] <Bender> karma - mayonnaise: -1
[20:07:11] <Bytram> there's nothing that can replace mayonnaise?
[20:07:15] <chromas> rusty_mayonnaise++
[20:07:15] <Bender> karma - rusty_mayonnaise: 1
[20:07:34] <Bytram> that
[20:08:02] <chromas> also, obligatory "that's nwat a knoife"
[20:08:11] <Bytram> that's it. Eyes are already getting droopy. Back in a couple/few hours.
[20:29:29] * Runaway1956 notes that FatPhil is an unAmerican foreigner who hates mayonnaise.
[20:29:55] <Runaway1956> Baseball, hotdogs, apple pie, mayonnaise, and Chevrolet!
[20:31:01] <Fnord666_> The next great debate - mayonnaise or Miracle Whip?
[20:31:21] * FatPhil notes that mayonnaise is euro
[20:31:33] <raxas> mayonnaise was always very unamerican https://en.wikipedia.org
[20:31:34] <systemd> ^ 03Mayonnaise - Wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org )
[20:31:34] <FatPhil> but them yucky down-south euros. eugh!
[20:35:13] <FatPhil> Mayonnaise is as American as the Statue of Liberty!
[20:38:28] <raxas> that one statue is actually idol of Hécaté, a chthonic deity. exactly by attributes and was even declared as that when designed
[20:38:56] <raxas> that's why it does not work as you expect
[20:40:44] <Fnord666_> lol
[20:41:33] <raxas> just compare it to Russian statue Matushka Rodina, that's actually an idol of Níké
[20:41:46] <raxas> you'l see the difference
[20:42:30] <raxas> all those Illuminati know perfectly what they are doing
[20:47:09] <raxas> https://ru.wikipedia.org
[20:48:18] <FatPhil> A single Hekate? Absurd concept. Gimme three or gimme none.
[20:48:24] <raxas> https://en.wikipedia.org
[20:48:25] <systemd> ^ 03Hecate - Wikipedia
[20:49:37] <chromas> Of course mayonnaise is American. We took it and now it's ours.
[20:50:52] <requerdanos> you know raxas, speaking of illuminati cabals around statues, did you know there's this great channel #shitlords that I believe you may enjoy?
[20:52:01] <FatPhil> chromas - you can have it. please take it all. please do not give it back.
[20:52:43] <chromas> Gonna have to start a #ProperShitlords channel with all the riffraff coming in
[20:52:46] <FatPhil> nah, raxas is making way too much sense for #shitlords, he won't fit in.
[20:53:28] <FatPhil> I've not been offended by a single thing he's said - what's the point of that? chromas' mention of mayonnaise, however, is completely on point.
[20:53:47] <chromas> We even have the Mayonnaise Clinic. Can't get more american than that
[20:54:04] <requerdanos> Mayonnaise is a delicious emulsion of eggs, oil, and your favorite acid.
[20:54:56] <chromas> Ah yes, LSDonnaise
[20:54:59] <FatPhil> LSD?
[20:55:07] <FatPhil> damn, beat me too it
[20:55:10] <FatPhil> chromas++
[20:55:10] <Bender> karma - chromas: 327
[20:55:15] <chromas> just barely
[20:55:17] <chromas> FatPhil++
[20:55:17] <Bender> karma - fatphil: 100
[20:55:21] <FatPhil> chromas-- for the mayonnaise
[20:55:22] <Bender> karma - chromas: 326
[20:55:27] <chromas> Who wants to join in the karma circle jerk :D
[20:57:37] <FatPhil> Hmmmm, I'm now contemplating LSDijon moutarde.
[20:58:57] <FatPhil> and Ketsup made with real ketamine
[21:01:02] <raxas> oh, an angry patriot illuminatus. bye then
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[21:17:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Renewable Energy Surpassed Fossil Fuels for European Electricity in 2020 - https://sylnt.us
[21:21:33] <Runaway1956> Renewable energy means I can pour it into my car, and when I'm finished using the car, pour it back into the gas can.
[21:25:39] <chromas> nah, it just means you can find it as (Renude) on Amazon
[21:26:33] * Teckla wants an EV
[21:29:50] <Teckla> Investing in a charger for my garage would be hella expensive, though :(
[21:31:18] * FatPhil wants a pumpkin coach pulled by mice steeds
[21:46:58] <requerdanos> Why wouldn't you just keep the renewable energy in the car to use next time, instead of pouring it out into a gas can?
[21:48:19] <chromas> You have you pour it out to renew it
[21:55:32] <Runaway1956> I might want to use it in the lawnmower before I need the car again.
[21:56:06] <Runaway1956> Besides, I need the exercise picking the car up to pour the energy back in the can.
[22:47:59] <chromas> https://www.upi.com
[22:48:00] <systemd> ^ 03Toronto woman finds knife-wielding squirrel in back yard
[23:33:27] <bacteria> no joke, crows will be sticking up small suburban children next
[23:36:26] <requerdanos> I've been robbed by a seagull armed with a sharp beak before. "Don't feed the birds." It makes them bold.
[23:47:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Newly Discovered Giant Galaxies Dwarf the Milky Way - https://sylnt.us