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[00:03:50] <Runaway1956> mx and antix and manjaro are all systemd free
[00:04:12] <Runaway1956> people in the know want to avoid the peter-ring kid
[00:06:23] <Runaway1956> https://www.howtogeek.com
[00:06:24] <systemd> ^ 03Why Linux’s systemd Is Still Divisive After All These Years
[00:13:49] <Runaway1956> 1.4 MILLION lines in systemd, as opposed to Linux kernel, with almost 28 million lines, and sysvinit only has 1721 lines
[00:14:04] <requerdanos> yes, everyone read the numbers in the link.
[00:14:31] <Runaway1956> thank you, thank you - and I'm still amazed that it takes all that to make systemd work
[00:23:14] <kyonko> lol millions of lines
[00:23:25] <kyonko> thats like millions of transistors
[00:23:30] <kyonko> VLSI
[00:23:40] <kyonko> or.... WAFER SCALE INTEGRATION
[00:25:51] <kyonko> i reckon you can keep sysvinit in your head
[00:26:29] <FatPhil> line counts are misleading in linux, as most of the distribution is just drivers, almost all of which are effectively just plugins. The actual kernel's way less than the whole repo.
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[00:31:20] <FatPhil> Fuck off, I'm stuffed. But sir, it is just one wafeur thin integration... . Oh, alright then.
[00:33:39] <kyonko> what about mystery binary blobs?
[00:35:51] <Runaway1956> all hail the blob
[00:36:46] <Runaway1956> I didn't realize peter-ring was a wienie snowflake https://www.zdnet.com
[00:36:49] <systemd> ^ 03Lennart Poettering's Linus Torvalds rant
[00:37:04] <Runaway1956> His feelz were hurt because someone hired a hitman to get him
[00:40:07] <AzumaHazuki> is Linus finally letting himself rant again? <3
[00:40:34] <kyonko> what happened to transmeta?
[00:41:24] <Runaway1956> No, Lennie Peter-ring rants about Linus, way back in prehistory, like, uhhhh - circa 2014
[00:42:25] <Runaway1956> Never saw his picture before - he doesn't look as douchy as I suspected - just moderately douchy
[00:42:47] <Runaway1956> Kinda a Bill Gates look, I think
[00:42:54] <kyonko> or robert crumb
[00:42:59] <kyonko> keep on trucking
[00:43:56] <AzumaHazuki> poettering's issue is he's ugly inside, not so much outside
[00:44:23] <Runaway1956> You vivisected him? Cool!
[00:44:50] <kyonko> mus musculus
[00:44:54] <Runaway1956> Nurse Annie Wilkes on the job!
[00:45:07] <kyonko> more like lab tech than nurse
[00:45:22] <Runaway1956> Annie wears many hats though
[00:45:40] <kyonko> back in the day when leukemia had no treatment
[00:46:04] * Runaway1956 grew up when there was no leukemia
[00:46:14] <kyonko> yeah how was the iron lung?
[00:46:14] <AzumaHazuki> so you're a protozoan then?
[00:46:26] <AzumaHazuki> huge surprise there. i've always said you have only one helix
[00:46:33] <Runaway1956> It was a new thing, sometime around junior highschool
[00:46:51] <kyonko> lot of kids got leukemia after their first born by age 15
[00:46:58] <AzumaHazuki> hint: leukaemia has been around since humanity if not before, we just didn't know what it was until fairly recently in our history
[00:47:16] <Runaway1956> You're making my point for me 'zumi
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[00:47:46] <Runaway1956> Before 1960-something, it was just some kind of cancer - then it got it's own name
[00:52:54] <kyonko> they didn't even know what it was
[00:52:56] <kyonko> it just killed kids
[00:53:08] <kyonko> fine one day, dying the next
[00:53:21] <Runaway1956> https://www.sciencedaily.com
[00:53:21] <systemd> ^ 03Eurasian eagle owl diet reveals new records of threatened big-bellied glandular bush-crickets
[00:53:39] <kyonko> ...
[00:53:48] <Runaway1956> I didn't know what an eagle owl was, and they provided no pics - had to go to youtube to see what they look like
[00:53:49] <kyonko> glandular?
[00:54:01] <kyonko> yeah you know what a saiga antelope is?
[00:54:01] <Runaway1956> Don't look especially eagle-like to me
[00:54:19] <Runaway1956> and antelope that eats saiga?
[00:54:26] <kyonko> its an alien antelope
[01:01:17] <FatPhil> an eagle owl is surely just like a normal owl, but more America - fuck yeah! Why didn't you salute, Runaway, you commie-loving traiter.
[01:02:40] <AzumaHazuki> lol
[01:03:13] <AzumaHazuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com haw
[01:03:29] <Runaway1956> That Eurasian eagle owl doesn't look especially American to me - call him the commie owl.
[01:03:31] <kyonko> even you are on discord AzumaHazuki?
[01:03:52] <AzumaHazuki> no, someone linked this in another room
[01:04:13] <kyonko> you aren't in that room
[01:04:45] <AzumaHazuki> this may surprise you, but a grownup's irc client can have multiple rooms across multiple servers open at once
[01:04:52] <AzumaHazuki> that one was from somewhere on freenode
[01:05:00] <kyonko> ugh, freenode
[01:05:08] <AzumaHazuki> i know, it's not what it used to be
[01:05:10] <kyonko> where do real people hang out on freenode these days?
[01:05:17] <AzumaHazuki> #gentoo obviously :D
[01:05:27] <kyonko> oh you are gentoo freak
[01:05:31] <Runaway1956> freenose?
[01:05:46] <kyonko> I was on freenode when fukushima happened
[01:05:48] <Runaway1956> you're really hung up on your alien antelope
[01:06:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Yellowstone's Reawakened Geyser Won't Spark a Volcanic 'Big One' - https://sylnt.us
[01:07:15] <Runaway1956> Can't even guess how many super volcano headlines I've seen in the past ten years because of some geysers
[01:07:37] <Runaway1956> I just chalked it up to global warming.
[01:29:35] <AzumaHazuki> gentoo is awesome, if you have the hardware and patience for it
[01:30:01] <AzumaHazuki> i started using linux in 2004, just before junior year of high school, and it was on gentoo
[01:31:29] <FatPhil> letting off a little steam can be a good release of pent-up pressure. So could be putting off the big one. Now if it starts to get constipated...
[01:32:13] <FatPhil> well, I'm on #devuan and #lua
[01:32:29] <FatPhil> (on freenode)
[01:34:19] * Bytram started using BASIC on a PDP/8 timesharing (multi user) system with 24 K 12-bit words of memory
[01:34:47] <Bytram> =w core memory
[01:34:48] <systemd> Magnetic-core memory was the predominant form of random-access computer memory for 20 years between about 1955 and 1975. Such memory is often just called core - https://en.wikipedia.org
[01:54:32] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://www.sciencedaily.com from the (no-more)-cat-scratch-fever dept.
[01:54:35] <systemd> Submitting "Genetic engineering without unwanted side effects helps fight parasites"...
[01:54:56] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Genetic Engineering Without Unwanted Side Effects Helps Fight Parasites" (13 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:56:58] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://www.sciencedaily.com
[01:57:01] <systemd> Submitting "New class of antibiotics active against a wide range of bacteria: Dual-acting immuno-antibiotics block an essential pathway in bacteria and activate the adaptive immune response"...
[01:57:23] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08New Class of Antibiotics Active Against a Wide Range of Bacteria: Dual-acting Immuno-antibiotics Blo" (12 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:07:36] <kyonko> IMMUNO WEAPONS
[02:07:53] <kyonko> ever seen the mice knocked out of immune systems?
[02:08:19] <kyonko> knock out the genes to see what the fuck happens!
[02:11:16] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: Do you know what they are referring to with "AMR" in hat bacterial story?
[02:11:53] <AzumaHazuki> antimicrobial resistance
[02:12:00] <AzumaHazuki> basically, the bugs no-selling antibiotics
[02:12:02] <kyonko> thats just bacteria evolving
[02:12:17] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki++ TYVM!
[02:12:17] <Bender> karma - azumahazuki: 56
[02:12:22] <kyonko> stress bacteria, they mutate and something survives
[02:13:03] <Bytram> =w antimicrobial resistance
[02:13:04] <systemd> Antimicrobial resistance (AMR or AR) occurs when microbes evolve mechanisms that protect them from the effects of antimicrobials. The term antibiotic resistance - https://en.wikipedia.org
[02:13:21] <kyonko> all it takes is one survivor to multiply the surviving trait exponentially
[02:14:09] <kyonko> lone survivor in a rich enviroment of food and water and enough space to dilute the metabolic waste
[02:14:23] <kyonko> 1 becomes 1,000
[02:16:16] <kyonko> the air is rich with bacteria
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[03:37:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Linus Torvalds On The Importance Of ECC RAM, Calls Out Intel's "Bad Policies" Over ECC - https://sylnt.us - bit-flip-out
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[06:05:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Can You Spot What's Wrong with the UK's New H.G. Wells Commemorative Coin? - https://sylnt.us - I'll-give-you-three-guesses
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[07:32:28] <c0lo> =submit https://phys.org
[07:32:32] <systemd> Submitting "A third of rivers in US found to be changing from blue to green and yellow"...
[07:32:53] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03A Third of Rivers in US Found to be Changing From Blue to Green and Yellow" (9 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:36:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - AMD Overtakes Intel in Desktop CPU Market Share for the First Time in 15 Years - https://sylnt.us - brief-bump-or-lasting-trend?
[09:31:45] <c0lo> =submit https://www.sciencealert.com
[09:31:47] <systemd> Submitting "MIT Tests 'Dream Incubation' Device That Manipulates The Content of People's Dreams"...
[09:32:09] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03MIT Tests 'Dream Incubation' Device That Manipulates the Content of People's Dreams" (22 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[09:32:23] <Ellenor> o:
[11:06:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - In a Parting Gift, EPA Finalizes Rules to Limit its Use of Science - https://sylnt.us - honesty-is-the-absence-of-the-intent-to-deceive
[11:07:16] <Ellenor> ...
[11:08:52] <FatPhil> I didn't know there still was an EPA!
[11:09:21] <Ellenor> same
[11:09:33] <FatPhil> I thought it was thrown on a pile of tyres, doused with petrol, and set alight!
[11:11:54] <c0lo> See the "third of rivers turning yellow/green"
[11:12:53] <c0lo> EPA started to die before Trump.
[11:13:04] <FatPhil> traffic lights - red's next!
[11:13:21] <FatPhil> looking forward to them rivers of blood...
[11:13:29] <c0lo> Then the rivers will vote ougs.
[11:13:39] <c0lo> s/oug/pug/
[11:13:39] <SedBot> <c0lo> Then the rivers will vote pugs.
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[11:39:07] <Ellenor> ??
[11:42:00] <c0lo> (repuglicans - easier for non-usians)
[11:47:16] <c0lo> DailyFail warning - https://www.dailymail.co.uk
[11:47:19] <systemd> ^ 03Threat to fly a plane into Capitol is made over air traffic control
[11:56:36] <c0lo> #tell
[11:56:36] <MrPlow> #tell <nick> <message>
[11:57:57] <c0lo> #tell aristarchus your dream may come true https://www.cbsnews.com
[11:57:57] <MrPlow> Okay, I'll tell them next time I see them.
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[12:35:56] <AzumaHazuki> ye gods above, below, and in between what a night...
[12:36:14] <AzumaHazuki> the other tech called out, and the ICUs were absolutely nuts tonight. i didn't get a break
[12:44:27] <Ellenor> oh
[12:46:46] <c0lo> AzumaHazuki, eat something, take a bath, go to sleep. Pace yourself, the next couple of months are gonna be horrific https://www.google.com
[12:46:47] <systemd> ^ 03UK strain new york - Google Search
[12:47:02] <AzumaHazuki> yyyyyyup. i saw that
[12:47:22] <AzumaHazuki> it just wouldn't be 2020 if 2020 weren't even fucking up 2021
[12:47:23] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:47:23] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5436
[12:48:07] <c0lo> Sorry, it's still 202One, rona and TTrump is still with us.
[12:48:11] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki++ Sad but true
[12:48:11] <Bender> karma - azumahazuki: 57
[12:48:35] * AzumaHazuki is beginning to think a lot of her similar-age coworkers aren't reliable
[12:49:15] <c0lo> Trump is not a problem, rona is still gonna be for some time.
[12:49:38] <c0lo> It's hyper-marathon, not a speed run.
[12:49:58] <AzumaHazuki> i was basically speedrunning for 8 straight hours @_@
[12:50:09] <Bytram> oi!
[12:50:27] <AzumaHazuki> thank fuck the other tech gave some warning she was going to be out. evening actually took the midnight round which was a lifesaver
[12:50:41] <Bytram> they are very fortunate to have you...
[12:50:46] <c0lo> Rest the next 12h at least.
[12:51:24] <Bytram> and, those who are slacking are going to be even more apparently so compared to your efforts, they will get theirs, eventually
[12:51:39] <Bytram> yes, rest makes a huge difference
[12:52:02] <c0lo> My sister's a cook. Could be worse in terms of speedrunning for hours. Difference is she's not gonna kill anyone if she screws a recipe.
[12:52:10] <Bytram> I was running on short sleep yesterday. Got more last night and feel much better.
[12:52:27] <AzumaHazuki> i'm still on goddamn probation until 14 January. if i somehow don't pass this there's going to be wailing and gnashing of teeth, as the book says
[12:53:05] <Bytram> c0lo: well, so long as the ingredients have not spoiled or gotten infected
[12:53:49] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: you're so close! go az!
[12:54:27] <AzumaHazuki> if i don't pass probation i'm going to break my foot off in someone's ass so far up their grandparents will feel it in hell ><;
[12:54:44] <c0lo> I wouldn't worry too much about passing or not, just focus on doing the job for the patients. They aren't in a position to involve power-politics now - there's shortage in heathcare.
[12:55:06] <AzumaHazuki> yeah, and night people are hard to find. doubly so night people who love the shift for its own sake
[12:55:18] <Bytram> c0lo++ agreed. Focus on helping others
[12:55:18] <Bender> karma - c0lo: 19
[12:55:32] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:55:32] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5437
[12:55:33] <c0lo> bytram, you can burn them ingredients or throw half a ton of salt.
[12:55:46] <AzumaHazuki> yeah. that's what keeps me sane, knowing in some tiny way i'm helping save lives
[12:56:01] <AzumaHazuki> one of the reasons i'm in this field is as tribute to the friends i couldn't save...
[12:56:51] <Bytram> then they'd prolly not eat it, but botulism, or e coli, etc could really be a problem
[12:56:56] <c0lo> PTSD and survivor syndrom will pass - with the bad and the good in them.
[12:57:06] <c0lo> Just be a good professional.
[12:58:35] <AzumaHazuki> right...that's the plan. i have no idea when i can see a therapist for any of this though.
[12:59:00] <AzumaHazuki> night shift, working unpredictable days of the week, and the whole coronavirus thing are going to make it difficult
[12:59:04] <c0lo> bytram, spoiled ingredients and such are improbable with the hygiene rules in Vic, AU.
[12:59:32] <Bytram> Maybe we can't save all the starfish washed up on a beach, but to each one cast back into the ocean, it's a life-saving difference. I've twice been knocking on death's door. Has given me a different outlook on life, and to the ones who helped me stay here.
[12:59:36] <c0lo> The risk of accidents for the kitchen personnel is much higher.
[13:00:26] <Bytram> c0lo: Oh, agreed. Just pointing out that it *is* possible to "kill someone if she screws up"
[13:00:50] <Bytram> sorry... /me doffs his QA/test hat
[13:01:42] <Bytram> srsly, I *just* woke up. coffee and etc. afk... back in a bit.
[13:01:44] <c0lo> Oh, it would be bordering to intentional to kill someone from the kitchen.
[13:02:02] <AzumaHazuki> the irony is, if i ever got beached, there's no one to throw me back in the water. one reason i've been using this character as my avatar is the feeling of being a "lost child in time," metaphorically rather than literally in her case
[13:02:22] * Bytram spent a few years working in a restaurant. gt
[13:02:35] <Bytram> gtg, laters
[13:09:43] <c0lo> Then don't risk shallow waters and the surf and you'll be fine.
[13:36:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mazda's Rotary Engine Will Return to the US With the MX-30 EV - https://sylnt.us - rev-it-up
[13:39:01] <AzumaHazuki> Wankel Engine? :D
[13:42:57] <c0lo> =w Wankel engine
[13:42:58] <systemd> The Wankel engine is a type of internal combustion engine using an eccentric rotary design to convert pressure into rotating motion. Compared to the reciprocating - https://en.wikipedia.org
[13:43:48] <c0lo> If you are so much amused, here's another
[13:43:56] <c0lo> =w fokker
[13:43:57] <systemd> (V.41) Fokker S.II Fokker B.I Fokker C.IV Fokker F.V Fokker S.III Fokker D.XI Fokker DC.I Fokker T.III Fokker B.II Fokker F.VII Fokker C.V Fokker D.XII - https://en.wikipedia.org
[13:59:47] <c0lo> =submit https://www.nytimes.com
[13:59:49] <systemd> Submitting "A Cheerleader’s Vulgar Message Prompts a First Amendment Showdown"...
[14:00:11] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03A Cheerleader’s Vulgar Message Prompts a First Amendment Showdown" (24 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[14:05:03] <c0lo> =submit https://www.bgdailynews.com
[14:05:06] <systemd> Submitting "Two cheerleaders and the F-I-G-H-T for free speech"...
[14:05:28] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Two Cheerleaders and the F-I-G-H-T for Free Speech" (1 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[15:56:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Electric Cars Hit Record 54% of Sales in Norway as VW Overtakes Tesla - https://sylnt.us - electrifying-news
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[17:15:09] <FatPhil> Do we have any awake (not woke) Americans? I have a language question again!
[17:16:13] <chromas> Can you ask in anagram form?
[17:16:48] <FatPhil> 2 parts. (1) do you ever pronouce the first 'd' in "handgrenade"? (2) have you ever seen "hangrenade", and did you consider it an error/typo or just unusual.
[17:17:42] <chromas> (1) Never said it before so I would think so
[17:18:22] <chromas> Never seen it but I could see why someone would drop the "d" in pronunciation, or someone who's never read the word could spell it out the way they heard it
[17:20:29] <chromas> As far as I know, most people just say "grenade" because hand is the only kind of grenade anyone cares about
[17:20:48] <Runaway1956> don't forget RPG
[17:21:00] <chromas> Good point
[17:21:04] <chromas> hand would be default though
[17:21:26] <FatPhil> I know the nd comes out as a nasalised n when I say it without priming myself to say it more "correctly". Which might make the nasalised form actually the correct one.
[17:21:50] <FatPhil> Runaway1956: nice one - that fits the -ed pattern I'm looking at, I'll add it to my list.
[17:22:36] <Runaway1956> I think I grew up hearing "hangrenage" without a d at all
[17:22:47] <Runaway1956> television and whatnot
[17:22:58] <Runaway1956> but it is a hand grenade
[17:23:03] <FatPhil> Yup, I think that's the standard common pronunciation now.
[17:23:09] <Runaway1956> and seeing it in print made me pronounce the d
[17:23:18] <FatPhil> but I wanted to poll others.
[17:23:50] <Runaway1956> in practice, if you need a grenade, I think you'll just skip the 'hand" part of it
[17:24:35] <Runaway1956> Imagine a quartermaster who won't issue you a grenade unless you pronounce it hand-grenade?
[17:25:41] <chromas> Start calling rations hangernades
[17:25:56] <Runaway1956> =yt raining all over the world
[17:25:57] <systemd> https://youtube.com - ELO _ Show Down (Raining all over the world) 1973 (04:03; 84,249 views; 👍925 👎18)
[17:26:36] <FatPhil> just ask for a pineapple.
[17:26:56] <Runaway1956> =yt rainy night in georgia
[17:26:57] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Brook Benton - Rainy Night in Georgia (03:54; 8,981,639 views; 👍70,324 👎2,723)
[17:26:58] <FatPhil> "that's pined-apple, to you!"
[17:27:23] <Runaway1956> that's the one
[17:29:14] <Runaway1956> Lord, I believe it's raining all over the world
[17:29:43] <Runaway1956> coffee++
[17:29:44] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5438
[17:39:56] <Runaway1956> Hmmmm - good day to work on the cutlery - knives are almost all dull - hate that shit
[18:04:35] <Runaway1956> A minute or two on each blade suffices - except for the bread knife
[18:04:53] <Runaway1956> looks like someone took it out in the garden to chop vines or something
[18:17:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Comcast Data Cap Blasted by Lawmakers as It Expands Into Twelve More States - https://sylnt.us - getting-your-tubes-tied
[18:25:31] <FatPhil> #weather
[18:25:33] <MrPlow> Apteegi, 10123 Tallinn, Estonia - Today: "Clear throughout the day." 27/25F, Humidity: 92%, Precip: 6%, Wind ~11mph. Thu: "Foggy in the morning." 27/22F, Humidity: 91%, Precip: 15%, Wind ~13mph. Fri: "Mostly cloudy throughout the day." 24/22F, Humidity: 91%, Precip: 9%, Wind ~9mph.
[18:28:13] <FatPhil> problem: people going to gyms spreading covid. solution: ban gyms in the county. result: people go to gyms outside the county spreading covid.
[18:28:32] <FatPhil> Polifuckingticians are so damn stupid.
[18:30:57] <FatPhil> Not one of them ever seems to think "what new behaviour would this new law encourage". Anyway, give me my money for my cobras.
[18:42:29] <Runaway1956> Maybe authoritarian politicians should just STFU and maybe issue GUIDELINES rather than edicts.
[18:43:08] <Runaway1956> Is that in the US, or where, FatPhil?
[18:44:28] <Runaway1956> It's looking like both dems win senate seats in Georgia
[18:44:55] <Runaway1956> so, the ONLY 'good thing' that comes of this election cycle is Ruth Bader Ginsberg finally gave up her seat
[18:45:03] <requerdanos> well, you know, with jeenius republicans boycotting the fake rigged election and all
[18:45:29] <Runaway1956> Looks like a close election - they must not have boycotted en masse
[18:45:54] <requerdanos> no, looks like just enough for Trump and Trumpers to fail the IQ test
[18:46:19] <Runaway1956> Of course, Dominion has the machines programmed to give a slim margin of victory to Dems, so it wouldn't matter how many voted
[18:46:21] <FatPhil> Harjumaa county, which contains the capital, in Estonia. https://www.openstreetmap.org
[18:46:22] <systemd> ^ 03Relation: Harju maakond (350585) ( https://www.openstreetmap.org )
[18:46:31] <requerdanos> touché on that.
[18:48:22] * Runaway1956 lights a virtual votive candle for Ginsberg
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[19:33:34] <FatPhil> Hmmmm, when was /Mad Max/ set?
[19:36:32] <Runaway1956> https://screenrant.com
[19:36:33] <systemd> ^ 03Mad Max Timeline Explained: When Each Movie Takes Place
[19:36:51] <Runaway1956> Mid-eighties, if I understand your question correctly
[19:36:57] <Runaway1956> but it's been buggered
[19:39:51] <Runaway1956> Of course, the very idea of civilization existing in Australia is absurd . . .
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[20:21:55] <FatPhil> Oi! That's our rejects you're talking about! So they're basically just like you lot! :-p
[20:23:00] <chromas> Totally different because we exported ourselves
[20:33:20] <FatPhil> yeah, because we weren't religious woo-woo enough for you!
[20:34:01] <chromas> you're jesus-damned right
[20:36:45] <FatPhil> https://pbs.twimg.com
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[20:46:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Imminent Sudden Stratospheric Warming to Occur, Bringing Increased Risk of Snow Over Coming Weeks - https://sylnt.us - Meteorology,-not-metrology
[20:51:27] <chromas> Finally, winter can begin
[21:01:45] <Bytram> =sub https://www.science.ku.dk
[21:02:19] <requerdanos> maybe =submit ?
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[21:06:17] <Bytram> =submit https://www.science.ku.dk
[21:06:23] <Bytram> nope
[21:06:58] <chromas> teste https://www.science.ku.dk
[21:07:00] <systemd> ^ 03How Earth’s oddest mammal got to be so bizarre
[21:13:39] <FatPhil> platypus, or something odder?
[21:14:53] <chromas> are otters bizarre?
[21:18:26] <FatPhil> echidnas are pretty funky
[21:19:44] <FatPhil> both monotremes, of course, and egg-laying of course.
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[21:26:49] <chromas> mmm, enchiladas
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[22:00:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> $burrito chromas
[22:00:54] * aqu4bot chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at chromas
[22:01:09] <chromas> ah, nice
[22:01:14] <chromas> =taco TheMightyBuzzard
[22:01:14] * systemd berates TheMightyBuzzard with a heap of smelly tacos
[22:01:27] <chromas> welcome back, aqu4bot, Subsentient
[22:01:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> #sammich aqu4bot
[22:01:34] * MrPlow sneaks up behind aqu4bot and cuts their throat
[22:01:34] * MrPlow fixes thinly sliced aqu4bot's corpse sammiches for everyone in #soylent
[22:02:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> !bier Subsentient
[22:02:01] * Bender pak het gerust zelf, Subsentient
[22:03:51] <chromas> .rps exec
[22:04:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> taking me an RSI break from all the mayhem in cyberpunk 2077 to have a good chuckle at all the mayhem in washington 2020
[22:04:39] <requerdanos> hey take that kind of talk to #US_Election :)
[22:06:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> they need burritos?
[22:06:31] <requerdanos> I am not going to straight-up say, no, I don't guess
[22:11:05] <kyonko> looks like the fall of communism
[22:11:27] <requerdanos> *rise
[22:12:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> i just hope they remember to grab the declaration of independence while they're there. not many realistic chances to get your hand on that map.
[22:13:17] <kyonko> lol
[22:14:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> and that's enough of keeping up with the news for me for the next month or two. it's hotwings time.
[22:14:26] <kyonko> BONELESS
[22:14:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> bone-in are better but boneless get in your beard less.
[22:15:24] <chromas> 360 boneless
[22:15:37] * TheMightyBuzzard buggers off to unload the truck bed and head to the bar
[22:15:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Pro-Trump Rioters Breach the US Capitol on Historic Day in Congress - https://sylnt.us - stock-up-on-popcorn!
[22:16:32] <kyonko> my beard hair is strips
[22:16:43] <kyonko> there is an open bar?
[22:16:56] <kyonko> hope you don't text and drink
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[22:24:11] <kyonko> are the bars open in buffalo?
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[22:25:04] <Ethanol-fueled> Rumors of my demise have been greatly exagerated
[22:25:13] <pinchy> omg its the FUEL
[22:25:20] <Ethanol-fueled> Go Patriots go!
[22:25:25] <pinchy> where the sam scratch have u been?
[22:25:25] <kyonko> go mules
[22:25:29] <kyonko> go donkeys
[22:25:31] <kyonko> facebook
[22:25:38] <kyonko> FACEBOOK
[22:25:50] <Ethanol-fueled> I ragequit after I overdosed on arguing against globalist bullshit
[22:26:08] <pinchy> you ready for 2021?
[22:26:16] <Ethanol-fueled> Hell yeah pinchy
[22:26:23] <pinchy> got ur ammo freeze dried food stocked up haha
[22:26:36] <Ethanol-fueled> Yeah, I know. No fucking guns nowhere
[22:27:07] <pinchy> yall still post on soylent news?>
[22:27:13] <pinchy> i havent read it in ages
[22:27:19] <Ethanol-fueled> I might post later if I find something
[22:27:45] <Ethanol-fueled> anyway, later!
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[22:30:07] <AzumaHazuki> welp. it's going down in DC. and predictably it's Trump supporters
[22:30:16] <AzumaHazuki> if anyone is surprised, raise your hand, then slap yourself silly with it
[22:30:53] <Ingar> I was going to bed early wehn I noticed
[22:30:55] <AzumaHazuki> i always know when something's whipping the timeline around like a cat toy because i can't fuckin' sleep properly
[22:31:01] <Ingar> now I've been watching the livestream :-\
[22:31:26] <AzumaHazuki> every single trump supporter owns this now. anyone even tangentially supporting the GOP is now part of this, it's on their heads, and they will burn for it
[22:32:10] <Ingar> the entire american political aparatus is just as guilty
[22:32:37] <AzumaHazuki> no it's fucking not. no more of this "the two parties are the same" bullshit
[22:32:42] <Ingar> these people are feeling angry and repressed and orange man just gave them a lightning rod
[22:32:48] <AzumaHazuki> i may not like either but i know which one is a mob of screaming fascist nuts
[22:33:07] <Ingar> well those people in DC obviously are
[22:34:02] <AzumaHazuki> this is raw fascist populism. this is the entire trump base. no more beating around the bush or pretending this isn't the case.
[22:34:17] <AzumaHazuki> fuck this, fuck everything about this, and fuck everyone who ever supported that fat orange sociopath
[22:34:31] <omgwtf> i wouldn't bet too much on the violence and damage coming from trump supporters
[22:34:36] <omgwtf> https://twitter.com
[22:35:04] <omgwtf> antifa has been planning for this since the day trump tweeted about january 6th
[22:35:06] <AzumaHazuki> yeah i'm sure you wouldn't
[22:35:14] <AzumaHazuki> sure, sure. burn in hell
[22:35:24] <omgwtf> wtf?
[22:35:47] <omgwtf> wow what's your problem?
[22:35:50] <AzumaHazuki> you heard me. die and burn in hell. no more games. no more cutesy-poo fake civility. fuck this and everything about this and everyone giving them cover
[22:35:54] <requerdanos> Seems that zumi was not convinced by the fake "antifa" poster.
[22:36:30] <AzumaHazuki> ya might could say that requerdanos :D
[22:36:44] <FatPhil> What, the Anfita poster?
[22:36:49] <Ingar> still
[22:36:49] <omgwtf> what fake civility?
[22:36:52] <Ingar> *popcorn*
[22:36:59] <omgwtf> what are you talking about?
[22:37:15] <Ingar> I live near Brussels
[22:37:19] <Ingar> civility is for HOllywood
[22:37:34] <AzumaHazuki> the very idea that the entire Trump base is anything but a bunch of traitors at this point. all 70+ million of them can, and will, fry
[22:37:35] <omgwtf> all i did is point out that there's probably antifa in the crowd
[22:37:40] <AzumaHazuki> fuck off
[22:37:41] <FatPhil> Tecnically, this is election based - we're having the same shouting match over in #US_Election, there's no need for it to spill out onto the streets of #soylent
[22:37:58] <AzumaHazuki> fine, forget it. not worth the blood pressure, even if mine is chronically low
[22:38:16] <omgwtf> i think you have anger issues
[22:38:59] <FatPhil> Nah, this is Zuzu calm - you wouldn't like her when she's angry
[22:39:26] <Ingar> why waste anger on people you hate
[22:39:31] <Ingar> it's a waste of energy
[22:39:57] <AzumaHazuki> i think you can kiss the entire four-volume compendium of my ass, omgwtf. it's four slim volumes but full of very very dense small print
[22:40:51] <omgwtf> jesus what is with all this aggression?
[22:41:27] <Ingar> waning moon
[22:41:28] <FatPhil> on the streets of DC
[22:41:33] <FatPhil> that's trumptards
[22:41:41] <omgwtf> i come here to what i think is a news chat to find out what's going on and i get told i'm going to burn in hell for trying to point out a few details
[22:42:16] <omgwtf> i thought this was a community of news junkies not an insane asylum
[22:42:23] <AzumaHazuki> want to know "wtf is with this aggression," asshole? 20+ years of seeing friends suffer and die needlessly, all the way back in elementary school. watching the country spiral up its own asshole of fascism since 9/11 if not before
[22:42:37] <omgwtf> wtf does that have to do with me?
[22:42:37] <AzumaHazuki> knowing we've been screwed since Reagan and that was almost a decade before i was born
[22:43:06] <AzumaHazuki> very simply this: if you are not 100% against every single thing you see going on here, if you are providing these fucking fascist lunatics any cover at all, you are one of them and will fry with them
[22:43:12] <AzumaHazuki> pull your head out
[22:43:32] <omgwtf> ok you're sounding seriously crazy here
[22:43:41] <AzumaHazuki> then feel free to block me and/or leave
[22:44:02] <FatPhil> Carter porked the environment, I'd not list him as one of the good guys.
[22:44:10] <omgwtf> good idea but you should still get some professional help
[22:44:16] <AzumaHazuki> he was one of the least evil, and for me that counts for something, FatPhil
[22:44:26] <omgwtf> because that mindless rage is going to eat up your guts
[22:44:26] <AzumaHazuki> the lesser of X evils is still evil, but also still less evil
[22:44:31] <FatPhil> But anyway, can we please take election 2020 chat to #US_Election
[22:44:52] <chromas> yeah but instead of a less evil X, we have to go to Wayland
[22:45:00] <FatPhil> AzumaHazuki: agreed - he was my "last good president" for about a decade, but as I read more I started to like him way less.
[22:45:22] <AzumaHazuki> he wasn't good, so much as not even in the same league as everyone since and before inclusive of Nixon
[22:45:48] <FatPhil> HE only dropped off that spot about 3 years ago (when I started reading up on more and more of your presidents to learn more about the "landscape")
[22:46:07] <AzumaHazuki> we've been fucked since Nixon, Reagan was the point of no return, and it's all been downhill from there
[22:46:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Pro-Trump Rioters Breach the US Capitol on Historic Day in Congress [Updated] - https://sylnt.us - stock-up-on-popcorn!
[22:47:22] <AzumaHazuki> we have at least half a dozen frothing fucking fanatics on this site who are cheering this on. stupid motheruckers.
[22:48:38] <FatPhil> I grew up with Raygun, but just with vague childhood memories of the existence of Carter. So I knew Ronnie was (for the time) terrible, but had no reason to start judging Carter negatively
[22:49:52] <FatPhil> And after that, Carter's -ves were never brought up, as he was a bit of a nothing president, so he never got that badge from me.
[22:51:09] <AzumaHazuki> on a much nicer note...if i ever, ever have money i am building something almost exactly like this https://www.dwell.com
[22:51:10] <systemd> ^ 03Little Black House by Elizabeth Herrmann Architecture + Design
[22:51:49] <AzumaHazuki> pretty black siding, open shelving, shiplap walls? all the yesplz
[22:53:02] <omgwtf> https://twitter.com
[22:53:43] <omgwtf> i was listening to some christian radio station earlier and they said last night their reporter saw 3 of those busses with a police escort
[22:53:54] <AzumaHazuki> sure they did
[22:54:37] <requerdanos> "I read on twitter that some guy heard so and so" kind of lacks credibility.
[22:55:10] <AzumaHazuki> but it was A CHRISTIAN RADIO STATION!!!111one They never lie ever about anything
[22:55:34] <Ingar> one thing I couldn't make out though: how large is the mob
[22:55:43] <Ingar> hundreds? thousands?
[22:55:53] <chromas> trillions
[22:56:02] <chromas> biggest mob in the history of mobs
[22:56:06] <omgwtf> i just heard 400k to 1m from a reporter who attends the march for life for comparison
[22:56:12] <FatPhil> AzumaHazuki: nice! and by my standards very spacious, in particular if you are going to remain just 2.
[22:56:41] <AzumaHazuki> i could do with half the space, no deck, and no second story really
[22:56:43] <Ingar> hundreds of thousands
[22:57:13] <AzumaHazuki> i'm actually planning a ~300SF "tiny house" build version of that someday. 10 by 30 by 12' tall let's say
[22:57:53] <Ingar> could be a bitch with local buildling regulations here :(
[22:58:06] <Ingar> (I should move from this hellhole)
[22:58:11] <FatPhil> AzumaHazuki: Our previous flat was 42m2, which was too compact, and now we're in 75m2, which is more than enough. If we move again, we'll probably aim for 60-65m2. (We will remain 2, if you haven't worked that out by now)
[22:58:16] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: Nice looking house (and a *great* photographer -- nicely staged!)
[22:59:03] <AzumaHazuki> this is all assuming i ever make it somewhere safe, *then* make enough money. i'm not counting on either. Canadian trip looks like it'll be delayed to mid 2022 given the virus and the vaccination fuckups
[22:59:16] <chromas> they need to put that bread back in the oven tho
[23:00:11] <AzumaHazuki> or give it to me. omnomnom
[23:00:59] <Fnord666> agreed. That bread is under done
[23:01:16] <FatPhil> blame the french
[23:01:35] <Fnord666> But the view out the door is gorgeous.
[23:01:58] <Fnord666> I could see myself living there except for the white cabinets. Those gotta go
[23:02:20] <Ingar> and the six legged table
[23:02:32] <Ingar> that is violantly unpractical
[23:02:54] <Bytram> the white cabinets show all the dirt and spills of life
[23:03:06] <AzumaHazuki> i like a darker look for cabinets, and would probably have chrome or brass pulls
[23:03:37] <AzumaHazuki> also, got to be an induction range. those are modern sorcery
[23:03:49] <Fnord666> The table design is pretty cool though.
[23:04:22] <Fnord666> no table legs in anyone's way
[23:04:29] <Bytram> Ingar: it's a high-falutin pair of sawhorses with a dining surface placed on top of them
[23:04:39] <Bytram> Fnord666++ yep
[23:04:39] <Bender> karma - fnord666: 29
[23:05:06] <AzumaHazuki> yeah, i don't like trendy or ostentatious things. i'd likely make my own. would probably be a lot of farmhouse-style furniture when i got done with it all
[23:05:08] <Fnord666> I agree on bradd pulls
[23:05:09] <Bytram> me wonder how it would hold up under a large holiday meal
[23:05:16] <Ingar> Bytram: I used to have sawhorses and a large board as desk
[23:05:26] <Fnord666> brass pulls
[23:05:38] <Fnord666> AzumaHazuki antiqued or polished?
[23:05:47] <Ingar> Bytram: I was looking for a decent table and ended up making my own
[23:06:06] <AzumaHazuki> i'd just get a lot of wood and sand it, then stain it. it wouldn't look old so much as simple and honest
[23:06:18] <Ingar> national news made an extra bulletin about DC
[23:07:02] <Fnord666> I prefer wood furniture as well.
[23:07:03] <Bytram> Ingar: yes, but placing serving dishes and plates and glasses and *food* on the surface, supported only on the very ends? gonna sag in a few years.
[23:08:08] * Bytram glances to his left upon a half dozen, maple-finished 6-foot-tall book cases
[23:08:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Class of Antibiotics Active Against a Wide Range of Bacteria: Dual-Acting Immuno-Antibiotics - https://sylnt.us - advanced-debugging-technique
[23:08:43] <Bytram> each is about 28" wide
[23:08:57] <Fnord666> Nice!
[23:09:08] <Ingar> I don't even have the space to put that :p
[23:09:28] <Fnord666> A lot of the furniture in my house was built by my old woodshop teacher who opened a business when he retired.
[23:09:33] <Bytram> it's actually particle board (got a great deal on a sale at Staples)
[23:09:42] <AzumaHazuki> i've spent so much time in subpar housing and even a few months homeless. all i want is stability and my own space.
[23:10:10] * Bytram would hate to see all the wood he split growing up placed in one pile.
[23:10:52] <Fnord666> Woodburning stove or fireplace?
[23:11:20] * Bytram wonders how long their driveway is and how they'd clear it in winter?
[23:12:38] * AzumaHazuki is all about tiny and efficient, will probably do <=300sf and heat/cool the entire thing with a single ductless mini-split
[23:13:01] <Bytram> Franklin-style wood stove on he first floor. Old kitchen-style cook stove in the basement which also served to pre-heat the hotwater before it was fed into the hot water tank on the boiler.
[23:13:26] <AzumaHazuki> i'd put the kitchen and bathroom alone one of the back edges, elevated 4' off the floor (storage space under) so the pipes can come out the back of the house instead of through the slab
[23:13:37] <Fnord666> Always a cool idea re the water.
[23:13:42] <Fnord666> or rather a warm idea
[23:15:12] <Bytram> going out and splitting wood for an hour or two was not uncommon.
[23:15:31] <Fnord666> yup
[23:16:03] <Fnord666> meditative in it's own way though.
[23:16:09] <Bytram> mostly red oak, but some maple and at one time one 36" diameter ash(?) tree
[23:16:39] <Bytram> clean grain, no knots at all... that was a joy to split.
[23:17:27] <Fnord666> I'm guessing that took more than 1 wedge.
[23:17:46] <Bytram> Place a wedge near one edge. Quick tap to set the tip so it remained standing, and one hit with sledgehammer... poof!
[23:18:10] <Fnord666> Must have been well seasoned
[23:18:13] <Bytram> then just circle round it with a splitting maul. Pop! Pop! Pop!
[23:18:56] <Bytram> My dad had to tell us to stop splitting it so small... we already gad enough kindling! (He has exaggerating just a bit)
[23:19:16] <Bytram> s/gad/had/
[23:19:16] <SedBot> <Bytram> My dad had to tell us to stop splitting it so small... we already had enough kindling! (He has exaggerating just a bit)
[23:19:27] <Bytram> s/has/was/
[23:19:27] <SedBot> <Bytram> My dad had to tell us to stop splitting it so small... we already gad enough kindling! (He was exaggerating just a bit)
[23:19:47] <Bytram> blargh!
[23:21:15] * Bytram remembers one monster oak that was also about 3-foot in diameter. Has such a massive and well-balance crown it would not fall over.
[23:21:55] <Bytram> had to run a cable over a limb and use a winch to pull the tree down.
[23:22:06] <Bytram> =g come-a-long winch
[23:22:07] <systemd> https://www.amazon.com - 5 Ton Come Along Winch by JABETC: Automotive - Amazon.com
[23:25:26] <chromas> he didn't come out and say "you're splitting hairs!"?
[23:26:06] <Bytram> inasmuch as I did have hairs then... but, yeah, no.
[23:26:21] <Bytram> https://www.sciencedaily.com
[23:26:23] <systemd> ^ 03How Earth's oddest mammal got to be so bizarre
[23:26:57] <Bytram> =asub https://www.sciencedaily.com
[23:27:05] <Bytram> ????
[23:29:22] <chromas> weird. nothing's subbing
[23:29:29] * chromas tests in #test
[23:29:45] <chromas> oh now it is working, though really, really slowly
[23:31:14] <AzumaHazuki> that NPC troll guy's cerebrospinal fluids have now officially replaced the Dead Sea as the saltiest body of water on the planet, LOL
[23:34:46] <FatPhil> Oi! Don't forget my stalagmite!
[23:36:20] <FatPhil> Hmm, getting late, time for some relaxing. How about some Penn & Teller...
[23:36:36] <AzumaHazuki> ah, i should get some food to cook for dinner-technically-breakfast...
[23:36:43] * AzumaHazuki afks
[23:37:05] <Fnord666> Bytram did you do the tire ring thing?