#soylent | Logs for 2020-12-22

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[00:34:03] <requerdanos> I got my phone, and bought the service, from a local mexican-hispanic-and-wireless store.
[00:35:34] <AzumaHazuki> oh, you have those too? they're all over buffalo
[00:36:09] <requerdanos> guess they're pretty ubiquitous
[00:38:03] <requerdanos> You can also wire money to Mexico and central america via any one of six bazillion money wiring services.
[00:38:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Great iPwn -- Journalists Hacked with Suspected NSO Group iMessage 'Zero-Click' Exploit - https://sylnt.us - helping-authorized-governments-combat-terror-and-crime
[00:39:10] <requerdanos> zero clicks is about as few as it gets
[00:43:19] <c0lo> now add thiotimoline to that, requerdanos
[00:43:38] <requerdanos> yeah, makes it even faster
[00:53:59] <requerdanos> and sure enough, TFS says "zero-click, zero-day"
[01:01:24] <AzumaHazuki> apropos of nothing" 90-day probation is a stupid goddamn idea. it's like making new employees wear a bomb collar for three months and do improv routines in the hope that no one on staff decides to press the detonator
[01:02:48] <AzumaHazuki> ...oh, yes, and do it over a randomly-collapsing floor with spikes underneath (no healthcare) too
[01:02:52] <requerdanos> in at-will states, you wear the bomb collar the entire tenure of your employment.
[01:03:12] <AzumaHazuki> yup. just one more reason to get the fresh hell out of this shithole country
[01:03:31] <requerdanos> Ah, yes, it always comes back to O, Canada.
[01:03:56] <AzumaHazuki> that's the most realistic goal at this point. Australia is going bad places and won't remain sustainable, and I doubt Finland needs me
[01:04:12] <requerdanos> Plus, it's not far.
[01:04:33] <AzumaHazuki> right, i can literally walk there in half an hour. except, oh right, the border's closed because we fucked up the covid response
[01:06:39] <requerdanos> well, yes, there is that
[01:07:39] <AzumaHazuki> damn it to hell. every single avenue of escape is being closed off and every single possible obstacle is being thrown in my way
[01:07:41] <c0lo> Zumi, yeah, stay out until you're prepard to unsustainable die laughing https://www.youtube.com
[01:07:43] <systemd> ^ 03The Chaser
[01:08:21] <AzumaHazuki> Australia has a serious water problem and i don't see it getting any better. and your government is doing some really creepy fascist shit
[01:08:54] <AzumaHazuki> y'all need Jesus^W solar/desalinization plant hybrids, like yesterday
[01:09:58] <c0lo> It may say something when a right-wing state govt (under a right wing federal govt) choses to sponsor the making a laughing stock of trickle-down https://www.youtube.com
[01:09:59] <systemd> ^ 03Qanon Anonymous
[01:10:23] <c0lo> Or in may say nothing.
[01:10:29] <AzumaHazuki> yeah, it just says they're right-wing like US Democrats, as opposed to like US Republicans
[01:10:45] <AzumaHazuki> in other words, bright enough and un-inbred enough to realize that if you want to keep fleecing the sheep you have to not kill them all
[01:11:03] <AzumaHazuki> (by this measure Romney is a Democrat)
[01:14:23] <c0lo> Oh, well, Zumi, what can I say? we'll probably end in drinking spider venom, there's plenty around (grin)
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[01:20:26] <kyonko> i found an anime music video on youtube about AzumaHazuki
[01:21:37] <kyonko> https://www.youtube.com
[01:21:39] <systemd> ^ 03LORN - ANVIL [Official Music Video]
[01:24:40] <AzumaHazuki> yyyyeah no
[01:24:50] <AzumaHazuki> there actually is one using my avatar out there and this is not it
[01:25:57] <c0lo> besides, our big brother, china, decided to take care of us and let us keep the wine. A slow cooked beef stew goes etremely well when you use reds instead of water.
[01:26:00] <kyonko> she chose not to take the leap of faith in the video
[01:26:54] <c0lo> True, you need to keep it boiling a bit longer, that's what acidity will do to the beef, but we have plenty of sun, that's not a problem.
[01:28:07] <AzumaHazuki> i watched it, and it doesn't match me
[01:28:57] <kyonko> well its bad ass, like ghost in the shell
[01:29:19] <AzumaHazuki> if you're wondering, some 14 years ago (ye gods...) someone set my avatar and her love interest to what i'm pretty sure is Wolf's Rain
[01:29:23] <kyonko> chose your heaven and still not run and leap toward it
[01:30:53] <kyonko> your avatar was a 10mb animated gif AzumaHazuki
[01:31:12] <AzumaHazuki> i mean the character whose name i'm using on here
[01:31:25] <kyonko> oh isnt that like card captor sakura or whatever
[01:31:33] <AzumaHazuki> that's not my real name, least of all because it's more or less "Jane Doe from Tokyo"
[01:32:00] <kyonko> yes I get it, good thing you aren't in love with an anontard you really know who they are tho
[01:32:15] <AzumaHazuki> everyone and their dog, sometimes literally, is or knows an Azuma. Can be a first name or a last name. And Hazuki is one of those "let's name our daughter after a year of the month" names like April or June in the US
[01:32:34] <requerdanos> months have years?
[01:32:38] <kyonko> yeah i heard that one from a norwegian who lives in tokyo i know on irc
[01:33:11] <kyonko> on facebook japan looks very...... well lets say not modern or futuristic
[01:33:28] <kyonko> india looks like a dump
[01:33:37] <AzumaHazuki> it's in real demographic trouble. adult diapers sell more than infant diapers there i heard, in japan
[01:33:52] <AzumaHazuki> old people are dying alone in their homes and no one notices until the bodies start to smell
[01:33:59] <kyonko> yeah and they are dependant on foreign labor such as filipinos
[01:34:16] <AzumaHazuki> which is probably rankling a lot given how racist Japan is
[01:34:16] <kyonko> NHK shows all the active 100 year olds
[01:34:55] <AzumaHazuki> i'm under no illusions about that country: it's racist, insular, basically a US colony, and has the life expectancy of a chocolate kettle in London at 3 PM when China gets pissy
[01:35:07] <kyonko> you dont do an adult diaper, you put a colostomy and nasal feeding tube
[01:35:38] <kyonko> japanese dont know english
[01:35:47] <AzumaHazuki> uh...they teach english in the schools
[01:36:00] <kyonko> colostomy, catheter and nasal feeding tube and sedation
[01:36:02] <AzumaHazuki> very textbook, not useful conversationally, but they know a lot more english than americans know japanese
[01:36:23] <kyonko> oh great mental japanese english
[01:37:07] <kyonko> never got this alien mind vibe from far east asians
[01:38:17] <AzumaHazuki> ...uh...if anyone has an "alien mind vibe" it's you. this bizarre stream of consciousness of yours jumps all over from sentence to sentence
[01:39:23] <kyonko> yes i got my corpus callostrum sliced
[01:39:54] <kyonko> you KNOW that one
[01:40:27] <kyonko> you will never know if your divisions are conscious, like a solipist, you can only test your biological natural birth children
[01:41:21] <kyonko> its all a common sense crock of shit
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[01:44:08] <kyonko> its like a big deal in the many worlds faq, besides mentioning hitler
[01:45:08] <AzumaHazuki> wait, you're actually a split-brain patient?
[01:46:19] <kyonko> no, but my town has way too many seizure hemispherectomies
[01:46:49] <AzumaHazuki> i was about to say, the only use i know of for severing the corpus callosum is last-line therapy for epilepsy
[01:47:11] <kyonko> yes but in the 1990's they just left you with half a skull of spinal fluid
[01:49:55] <kyonko> besides the corpus cut there is the chiari malformation surgery in the cerebellum
[01:50:56] <kyonko> i got a few books on the brain, its mostly filled with shit showing you the routes from cortex to cortex are random
[01:51:17] <AzumaHazuki> i'm rather suspicious of psychiatry and medicine, which may seem odd coming from a pharmacy worker
[01:51:50] <kyonko> you can try alternative medicine like acupuncture
[01:51:51] <AzumaHazuki> but psychiatry and psychology are soft sciences at best, and there's a mindset of "throw pills at the problem, we can't afford to fix them" ground deep into the American psyche
[01:52:24] <AzumaHazuki> it all comes down to healthcare being for-profit and most people not having the common human decency the Law of Cycles gave the average portobella mushroom
[01:52:34] <kyonko> have you heard of all the insanity there is regarding falun gong?
[01:53:01] <kyonko> they chinese use them because they produce the fittest organs and tissues
[01:53:03] <AzumaHazuki> not much of it. they're apparently more or less Chinese Scientology but the CCP is going full-on Dr. Mengele on them
[01:53:37] <kyonko> we have a lot of mormons here
[01:53:37] <kyonko> heh
[01:54:06] <kyonko> mormons like scientologists, promise to set you for life
[01:54:38] <requerdanos> Mormons consider caffeine to be an evil drug, forbidden
[01:54:51] <kyonko> uh huh
[01:55:02] <kyonko> but not corn syrup
[01:56:27] <kyonko> how about phosphoric acid in soda?
[01:56:36] <kyonko> thats not even needed
[01:56:46] <requerdanos> makes it taste nice and crisp
[01:56:51] <kyonko> yes i know
[01:56:58] <kyonko> but still
[01:57:04] <kyonko> its not a novelty thing
[01:57:08] <kyonko> its mainstream
[01:57:35] <kyonko> its all common sense open knowledge
[01:57:59] <AzumaHazuki> mormons are fucking nuts. ever read their "hidden" scripture?
[01:58:12] <requerdanos> read some of it, yeah
[01:58:19] <AzumaHazuki> it's not AS outright loonie-bird insane as Scientology but it's really not far off
[01:58:43] <kyonko> scientology has a competitor in the LA region
[01:58:49] <kyonko> the foundation for human understanding
[01:58:57] <kyonko> its more risque
[01:58:59] <AzumaHazuki> i'd say Mormonism:canonical Christianity :: Velveeta : aged Vermont cheddar, but that is an insult to processed cheese food products
[01:59:14] <kyonko> canonical linux!
[01:59:24] <requerdanos> I am pretty sure cheese food products don't take insult
[01:59:33] <AzumaHazuki> if velveeta were actually styrofoam with some yellow paint on it the analogy might hold better
[01:59:51] <kyonko> put styrofoam in your mouth, just for the experience
[02:01:16] <kyonko> roy masters wasnt that bad, but his kids are
[02:01:26] <kyonko> and their radio show "perilous world"
[02:04:30] <AzumaHazuki> see this is what i mean about that disconnected stream of consciousness thing
[02:04:40] <AzumaHazuki> how the fuck do you connect styrofoam to whoever roy masters is?
[02:05:05] <requerdanos> Maybe roy masters is a local word for velveeta?
[02:05:32] <requerdanos> wait, I withdraw that as unlikely
[02:05:52] <kyonko> AzumaHazuki: why is consciousness such a big deal to you?
[02:05:59] <kyonko> are you an anesthesiologist?
[02:06:21] <kyonko> Joe rogen beleives you have consciousness in your liver because "microtubules"
[02:06:22] <AzumaHazuki> "stream of consciousness," kyonko. it's like, you have no filter. you say whatever you're thinking and it doesn't synch up from one thought to the next
[02:06:42] <kyonko> well fuck me for feeling comfortable and being myself in here
[02:16:40] <AzumaHazuki> it just makes it a bit hard to follow, is all. you don't seem like an evil person
[02:17:10] <requerdanos> thought synchronization is constraining and overrated.
[02:17:39] <AzumaHazuki> i'd rather deal with you than a sociopath like Uzzard up there, or a frothing gun-sucking revanchist like Runaway
[02:36:43] <AzumaHazuki> well, time to go. hopefully tonight's not too nuts
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[03:07:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Microsoft Executive Accidentally Exposed One of the Ugly Truths of Tech - https://sylnt.us
[04:33:57] <kyonko> she is a 24 hour pharmacy tech or she is working at a hospital
[04:35:43] <requerdanos> I think she works in a hospital.
[04:36:09] <kyonko> even if i go to a hospital for an rx, i have to fill it out of pocket at a pharmacy
[04:36:22] <kyonko> so she probably preps iv's and im's
[04:36:51] <kyonko> we don't have a pharmacy at the local hospital heh
[04:37:12] <kyonko> i'll never forget that time I got an IV of betalol and it did nothing to me
[05:27:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - State of Software Security v11 - https://sylnt.us - switch-to-perl-for-great-security
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[07:53:49] <carny> https://duckduckgo.com
[07:53:59] <carny> well that wasn't what i wanted
[07:54:54] <carny> i didn't realize duckduckgo turned into a spyware service
[07:56:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ötzi the Iceman May Have Scaled Ice-Free Alps - https://sylnt.us - like-of-the-rocks
[07:58:35] <carny> well at any rate i found that article appearing right above https://edition.cnn.com very amusing
[07:58:38] <systemd> ^ 03McConnell says 'no concerns' despite visible bandages and bruises
[07:59:00] <chromas> People still use ddg?
[08:02:47] <carny> only by accident ;]
[08:04:18] <chromas> I should set up my own searx instance
[08:15:52] <carny> does it work now?
[08:16:11] <carny> i try it every month or two and it almost always fails due to google blocking
[08:16:37] <carny> it should just ignore google by default and give you the other results
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[09:00:35] * FatPhil ponders the concept of "an IV of betalol"
[09:01:35] <FatPhil> fuck betalol
[09:01:59] <chromas> the next april 1 theme for sn
[10:07:18] <c0lo> Check with Zumi for the dosage.
[10:16:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 1 in 5 Prisoners in the US Has Had COVID-19 -- 1,700 Have Died - https://sylnt.us
[11:25:26] <c0lo> STEM babeh
[11:25:35] <c0lo> =submit https://www.psychologytoday.com
[11:25:40] <systemd> Submitting "An Analysis of Trump Supporters Has Identified 5 Key Traits"...( 1 modified urls; https://www.psychologytoday.com )
[11:26:02] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03An Analysis of Trump Supporters Has Identified 5 Key Traits" (21 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[11:26:28] <c0lo> =doi 10.5964/jspp.v5i1.750
[11:26:30] <systemd> Journal Reference: Thomas F. Pettigrew. Social Psychological Perspectives on Trump Supporters, <cite>Journal of Social and Political Psychology</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.5964/jspp.v5i1.750">10.5964/jspp.v5i1.750</a>)
[11:36:14] <FatPhil> That story's years old
[11:38:43] <FatPhil> Dupe! https://soylentnews.org
[11:38:47] <systemd> ^ 03Discussion: Social Psychological Perspectives on Trump Supporters - SoylentNews
[11:43:11] <carny> =submit all-in-one-place-to-save-you-time dept. https://hereistheevidence.com
[11:43:16] <systemd> Submitting "Here Is The Evidence"...
[11:43:38] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Here is the Evidence" (6 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[11:47:23] * c0lo awwww. Why haven't they evolved in the meantime?
[11:48:25] <FatPhil> Awwww, that's nice, they're even keeping a count of the number of times they've been laughed out of court!
[11:51:44] <carny> funny thing about that FatPhil
[11:52:19] <carny> can you name any examples of evidence being presented in court and disproven or judged unpersuasive?
[11:52:39] <carny> cause i can't find any examples in the case files yet
[11:54:08] <carny> but of course that only indicates absence of evidence not evidence of absence right ;]
[11:55:18] <c0lo> And why do you keep FatPhil accountable for it. What was giuliani and the other clowns doing when the lawsuit season was opened?
[11:56:08] <FatPhil> Isn't throwing out the whole case enough of a judgement that the evidence was unpersuasive?
[11:56:55] <carny> bro have you ever even seen the inside of a court room?
[11:57:10] <carny> evidence is not judged until it is presented
[11:57:22] <carny> and no judge has *allowed* evidence to be presented yet
[11:57:35] <carny> it's almost as if they know exactly what the outcome will be if they do
[11:58:34] <carny> but go ahead and keep on with your coping mechanisms if the reality of 80 million redneck americans re-electing the bad orange man is too scary for you
[11:59:05] <carny> it makes me sigh and roll my eyes but i can put on a strong face for those who need emotional support
[11:59:48] <carny> obviously you survived the great disappointment of 2016 so you should make it through this as well
[12:00:50] <carny> but if you find yourself succumbing to depression don't hesitate to reach out and find someone who cares
[12:07:45] <FatPhil> Jesus Christ, cranky, 96% of the world doesn't live in the USA, and couldn't give a flying fuck about which bucket of shit you chose to pour over your head every 4 years.
[12:08:01] <FatPhil> We're laughing *at* you.
[12:08:24] <FatPhil> but go ahead and keep on with your coping mechanisms
[12:11:14] <carny> and yet you keep talking about it
[12:11:44] <carny> my coping mechanism for this fiasco is to prepare for the conflict that i expect to result
[12:12:04] <carny> but that only makes sense for someone who is aware of the facts on the ground vis a vis election fraud
[12:12:20] <carny> so you're detached from the situation in multiple ways
[12:12:42] <carny> not the least of which is that you intentionally avoid facts
[12:12:57] <c0lo> Humor us, carny. E.g. go to democracy docket, go visit all the postelection suits and show us which ones giuliani presentedd any evidence except hearsay.
[12:13:47] <carny> you really are an excellent example of the peter principle as a competent mathematician but incompetent analyst
[12:14:27] <c0lo> https://www.democracydocket.com
[12:14:27] <systemd> ^ 03Democracy Docket
[12:15:47] <c0lo> Show your analyst competency, carny, put up a link of cases where there was admissable evidence that was dismissed. Those will be facts.
[12:16:15] <FatPhil> And do it on #US_Election
[12:16:37] <requerdanos> fatphil++ #Keepin' the topics separated
[12:16:37] <Bender> karma - fatphil: 96
[12:19:08] <Bytram> carny: logical fallacy: absence of evidence != evidence of absence
[12:20:47] <c0lo> bytram, "absence of evidence" becomes a strong indicator for the "absence" after one searched for long enough.
[12:23:47] <c0lo> We don't have an evidence that God does *not* exist, but we tried quite hard to find evidence that s/he exist and failed repeatedly.
[12:24:41] <carny> funny you should mention that when you're the one who started the thread
[12:24:50] <carny> but ok
[12:25:17] <c0lo> Who started what thread?
[12:25:55] <c0lo> When/where?
[12:26:02] <Bytram> carny: yes, I'm curious. Or maybe I need
[12:26:05] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:26:05] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5427
[12:26:18] <Bytram> ugh, phone. biab
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[12:40:42] <FatPhil> c0lo: yup, it dovetails quite closely with the "can't prove a negative" pseudo-fallacy.
[12:42:36] <FatPhil> The shortest I've managed to word "you can't prove a negative" such that it's both correct and useful is about 15-20 words, which doesn't really roll of the tongue so easily.
[12:43:06] <AzumaHazuki> you can't prove a universal negative
[12:43:19] <AzumaHazuki> you can prove specific, bounded/paramterized negatives
[12:43:33] <AzumaHazuki> so you can't prove there is no God of any description but you can prove there is no Yahweh
[12:44:39] <FatPhil> I can prove that there are no prime numbers that don't satisfy \forall a, a^(p-1) == 1 (mod p)
[12:45:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Exploring the Potential of Near-Sensor and In-Sensor Computing Systems - https://sylnt.us - ghost-in-the-machine
[12:45:34] <c0lo> I'm lazy, I like Russell's teapot. Can't find it, but that's not my burden.
[12:45:37] <FatPhil> (hehe, a prize for the person who spots the error in that statement, but I was being deliberately brief)
[12:46:35] <FatPhil> You can prove that he likelyhood of there being one is as low as you desire by enough not finding of it through thorough searches.
[12:48:25] <FatPhil> But it's important to distinguish between things that are proved by searching, and other things (such as pure logical statements).
[12:49:04] * c0lo sad FatPhil is a faster typist than c0lo
[12:49:15] <c0lo> Yeap.
[12:49:41] <Bytram> back
[12:49:45] <c0lo> This is where the burden of proving a positive.
[12:50:29] * Bytram does not see where carney substantiated the claim "funny you should mention that when you're the one who started the thread"
[12:51:16] <c0lo> Because actually proving a physical negative would be a drain to society. Think Gish gallop.
[12:51:53] <Bytram> you don't say?
[12:51:56] <Bytram> ;^)
[12:52:42] <FatPhil> I'm extremely Bayesian, which supports the view of where the burdon of proof may lie.
[12:52:45] * c0lo still doesn't know what thread is about
[12:53:10] <FatPhil> The probability of Trump winning! Woo woo! You were wrong!
[12:53:25] <FatPhil> (Hmmm, but it was you who informed me that he might win... hmmm....)
[12:55:02] <c0lo> I don't care how wrong I am. But you are right, it was me to inform you the rough estim of the probability of Trump's win.
[12:56:06] <FatPhil> My prediction before the second half was 10-6, as I knew 6-2 had seen bad luck for Lisowski and good luck for Trump. The 2nd session confirmed my view, and in the end I wasn't far out.
[12:56:59] <FatPhil> Trump played excellently, I can't imagine even Robertson or Selby beating him when he's on that form.
[12:57:23] <FatPhil> Which explains why Trump's been #1 for so long, and will remain so.
[12:57:58] <FatPhil> But I would say that, as I've been a Trump fanboy since about 2015.
[12:58:54] <c0lo> Next big one for Trump ends in Jan 17 and start with ronos vs china.
[12:59:03] <requerdanos> IS Trump pretty good? I don't follow seniors golf
[13:00:33] <c0lo> That is, if rona doesn't get the whole country locked down.
[13:01:35] <c0lo> BTW, FatPhil... ummm... is Trump an essential worker?
[13:03:54] <FatPhil> He's not public facing, so it shouldn't matter.
[13:04:05] <FatPhil> If he sleeps under the table, he can claim he's working from home?
[13:07:15] <FatPhil> I hope they can bring limited crowds back in (say 1/4 capacity). I like how they're doing the fake crowds, but I don't want to get used to them.
[13:08:17] <FatPhil> The UK's cranking out new cases, even with its superviral strain, at a slower pace than we are here, and we're still doing utterly bugger all.
[13:08:30] <c0lo> Did the proof of Trump's latest win started to emerge on Internet yet? (haven't checked yesterday and today)
[13:09:05] <FatPhil> I suspect snooker's a bit of a minority sport still.
[13:11:46] <FatPhil> I've noticed the Russian-speakers playing some weird game on the large (10'?) tables in some of the pool halls I've pub-crawled round - I still need to find someone who can teach me what that is. Seems at least as popular as 8/9-ball are, but none of my mates know much about it at all. (Except "it's russian".)
[13:14:56] <c0lo> I only found some highlights :(
[13:15:41] * c0lo dissapointed. Might as well go to sleep, nothing interesting.
[13:17:27] <FatPhil> Of the final? I can give you the 2 YT links I watched it from if you'd like?
[13:18:06] <c0lo> FatPhil, yeap, thanks.
[13:18:09] <Bytram> noob question wrt MySQL, if I may? In interactive mode, is there a way to get autocompletion on field names?
[13:18:17] <FatPhil> 9LhYkX4QUjE and 5qoknHT73Us
[13:19:10] <FatPhil> Bytram: Mine (mariadb) seems to have autocompletion on by default.
[13:19:25] <Bytram> hmm, how to invoke?
[13:19:32] * c0lo grrrr first one "This video has been removed by the uploader"
[13:19:39] <FatPhil> c0lo: pretty crappy quality, alas, but the others on YT were worse
[13:19:44] <Bytram> describe users_<tab> does not work
[13:20:31] <Bytram> hmmm, I'm prolly not the first to want to do this...
[13:20:55] <Bytram> =g MySql autocomplete field name
[13:20:56] <systemd> https://bugs.mysql.com - MySQL Bugs: #92015: Autocomplete Data Not Automatically Loading
[13:20:58] <FatPhil> that's not a field name, that's a table you want there
[13:21:05] <c0lo> FatPhil, I'll start watching the second, I might finish tomoz
[13:21:19] <FatPhil> 2nd is way more interesting
[13:21:36] <Bytram> oh, yes. that's true. Would like to be able to do that, too. =)
[13:23:54] <FatPhil> my tab-completion's *too* keen. It's prepared to tab-complete to anything that vaguely matches (such as field names) even when they're meaningless in context (such as a describe command).
[13:25:05] <FatPhil> teh internets say:
[13:25:24] <FatPhil> Edit or create a file called .my.cnf in your home directory, containing:
[13:25:24] <FatPhil> [mysql]
[13:25:24] <FatPhil> auto-rehash
[13:25:45] * Bytram is looking at: https://stackoverflow.com
[13:26:06] <FatPhil> #metoo
[13:26:16] <FatPhil> Didn't know about the next answer down: \#
[13:26:47] <FatPhil> which is in the interactive 'help':
[13:26:48] <FatPhil> rehash (\#) Rebuild completion hash.
[13:26:58] <Bytram> which leads me to wonder how I would (1) turn it back off permanently, and (2) ad-hoc, like when searching for text containing a tab char
[13:28:06] <Bytram> for (1), I'm guessing I could exit MySQL and then start it again (if autocomplete is NOT the default)
[13:30:17] <FatPhil> some other interesting answers on that page.
[13:30:19] <requerdanos> I tend to want to use mysql-workbench sometimes out of laziness
[13:31:46] * Bytram is looking at SoylentNews production DB atm ; would prefer to avoid automatic "help"
[13:32:56] <requerdanos> I would say that mysql workbench is pretty manual, but defer of course to your judgment.
[13:34:22] <Bytram> IME, GUIs tend to be too helpful and somewhat opaque; CLIs tend to be more deterministic. All generally speaking, of course!
[14:27:41] <requerdanos> I would say, at your leisure, look at mysql workbench. it is minimally invasive in my limited experience.
[15:07:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New SUPERNOVA Backdoor Found in SolarWinds Cyberattack Analysis - https://sylnt.us
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[18:47:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net
[18:50:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> or a SFW link even in the most puritanical office: https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net
[18:54:39] <FatPhil> TheMightyBuzzard: get your autophappic nervous system under control!
[18:58:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm not dead yet, so it's working just fine
[18:58:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> the day i'm not interested in boobies anymore is the day i go fishing and just stay gone fishing
[19:34:12] <FatPhil> who let all these fuckers into my local pub?!? The selfishness, of some people, sheesh.
[19:56:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Major Computing Breakthrough: Copenhagen Researchers Can Now Achieve "Quantum Advantage" - https://sylnt.us
[20:20:31] <FatPhil> #weather
[20:20:32] <MrPlow> Raekoja plats, Tallinn, Estonia - Today: "Foggy overnight." 38/28F, Humidity: 88%, Precip: 61%, Wind ~13mph. Wed: "Snow (1–2 in.) until evening." 37/34F, Humidity: 88%, Precip: 68%, Wind ~12mph. Thu: "Foggy in the evening." 37/30F, Humidity: 87%, Precip: 37%, Wind ~6mph.
[20:50:41] <kyonko> flat chests
[22:17:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Roscosmos Chief Blasts U.S. Sanctions - https://sylnt.us
[22:17:57] <FatPhil> !grab kyonko
[22:17:57] <Bender> Added quote 1014
[22:18:04] <Runaway1956> =submit https://asia.nikkei.com
[22:18:07] <systemd> Submitting "Jack Ma punishment a lesson for China's other tech bad boys"...
[22:18:08] <FatPhil> it had no context, therefore it needs no context
[22:18:29] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Jack Ma Punishment a Lesson for China's Other Tech Bad Boys" (21 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[22:29:48] <FatPhil> I'm trying to explain, via the mechanism of URLs, how fatphil+yourname@fatphil.org and fatphil@fatphil.org are the same email address, and that the '+' and following string are not the important part. Anyone know any magic words I can search for? I tried "local addressing" which is what I know it as, but that gave nonsense
[22:31:31] <kyonko> oh they dont get it
[22:31:39] <kyonko> i know a godaddy employee who doesn't know what dns is
[22:32:32] <requerdanos> wonder what RFCs would contain that knowledge
[22:33:43] <kyonko> is your email address usefull for registering for online services, like twitter or facebook?
[22:33:50] <FatPhil> in postfix, it's "recipient_delimiter" that configures that
[22:33:52] <kyonko> a lot of web forums reject gmail, yahoo and outlook
[22:34:39] <kyonko> im sure rizon and freenode will accept your fatphil.org
[22:34:53] <FatPhil> I accept my fatphil.org
[22:34:55] <kyonko> but do you have a fatphil area code?
[22:34:56] <FatPhil> waaaaaat?!?!?!?
[22:35:04] <FatPhil> My momma does
[22:35:57] <kyonko> i have an isp provided email
[22:35:59] <kyonko> i keep forgetting that I do
[22:36:10] <kyonko> a lot of assholes reject emails like yours or the 3 big providors
[22:41:33] <kyonko> fatphil@gmail.com thats an email
[22:41:49] <FatPhil> tht's probably me, I foprgot the password years ago
[22:41:56] <kyonko> did you?
[22:42:07] <kyonko> I just to abandon so many emails for webforum registration in the 2000's
[22:42:49] <kyonko> this%is%my%password
[22:43:05] <kyonko> password1my2this3
[22:43:32] * kyonko makes spongebob meme wallet face
[22:43:38] <kyonko> FHS*x)OIOSAO)A)(*j_)P__XZPOAokKJHhdhgYY
[22:43:52] <kyonko> secure.
[22:43:58] <requerdanos> sorry, paste has been disabled for this form.
[22:45:38] <FatPhil> pasta has been disabled? that's racist!
[22:46:43] <kyonko> ssh
[22:46:44] <kyonko> tls
[22:46:48] <kyonko> heartbleed
[22:46:50] <kyonko> ricin
[22:46:59] <kyonko> BOMB
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[23:09:58] <FatPhil> ground control to major kyonk
[23:10:04] <FatPhil> ground control to major kyonk
[23:11:25] <kyonko> is it a microbrew, or is it bioterrorism?
[23:11:55] <kyonko> WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE
[23:30:22] <FatPhil> I have written markov model based language generators, but I give up - I could never emulate you
[23:52:56] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.zerohedge.com
[23:52:57] <systemd> Submitting "Black Pastors Refuse To Push COVID Vaccine, Turn Congregants Into 'Guinea Pigs'"...
[23:53:19] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Black Pastors Refuse to Push COVID Vaccine, Turn Congregants Into 'Guinea Pigs'" (30 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:56:31] <Runaway1956> =submit https://bbcbreakingnews.com
[23:56:33] <systemd> Submitting "Elon Musk claims he offered to sell Tesla to Apple for a TENTH of its current value – BreakingNews"...
[23:56:55] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "03Elon Musk Claims He Offered to Sell Tesla to Apple for a TENTH of its Current Value – BreakingNews" (43 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:58:23] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.startribune.com
[23:58:26] <systemd> Submitting "Feds sue Walmart over role in opioid crisis"...
[23:58:48] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Feds Sue Walmart Over Role in Opioid Crisis" (19 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org