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[01:29:27] <Runaway1956> Wuhan? They have fewer deaths per million even than New Zealand - if you believe their reporting
[01:46:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Discovery of Mechanism that Switches Off Fat Production after Eating - https://sylnt.us - skinny-genes
[02:03:43] <chromas> I've got HDDs made in Malaysia, Singapore and Thailand. All my SSDs are made in China
[02:04:00] <chromas> SSDs are a Chinese conspiracy to reduce diversity in manufacturing.
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[02:30:00] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.brookings.edu
[02:30:07] <systemd> Submitting "Half a million fewer children? The coming COVID baby bust"...
[02:30:29] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Half a Million Fewer Children? the Coming COVID Baby Bust" (26 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:36:55] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.startribune.com
[02:36:57] <systemd> Submitting "2 face federal terror charge over train track interference"...
[02:37:19] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "032 Face Federal Terror Charge Over Train Track Interference" (10 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[02:54:27] <Runaway1956> =submit https://phys.org
[02:54:30] <systemd> Submitting "Virus-like probes could help make rapid COVID-19 testing more accurate, reliable"...
[02:54:52] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Virus-like Probes Could Help Make Rapid COVID-19 Testing More Accurate, Reliable" (17 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[03:34:56] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.aljazeera.com
[03:34:58] <systemd> Submitting "US top court hears arguments in child slave labour case"...
[03:35:20] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03US Top Court Hears Arguments in Child Slave Labour Case" (22 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[03:36:20] <lld> they're going to discover that slave labor is far more profitable
[03:36:36] <lld> much more profitable than capitalism
[03:42:28] <c0lo> lld, slave labor will never get to the efficiency of capitalism, the slave owner will need to keep the slave alive. In capitalism, the business can afford to pay under the subsistence level as long as there are takers for those jobs.
[03:43:31] <lld> not really if none of the slaves can go anywhere
[03:43:45] <c0lo> Globalisation will take care about the workforce supply, just ask the US flyover country.
[03:44:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> c0lo, excellent argument against socialism you just made
[03:44:11] <c0lo> Those slaves cost money to replace.
[03:44:23] <lld> no no, I mean 3rd world with slave labor will overtake america in productivity and profitability
[03:44:28] <c0lo> TheMightyBuzzard: how so?
[03:44:47] <lld> with profits coming back to america (or China depening how far in the future)
[03:45:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> socialism is national slavery. the fruits of your labor are not your own.
[03:45:29] <lld> ^^^ pretty much the spanish revolution in a nutshell
[03:45:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's just slavery with a nice hat on
[03:45:44] <c0lo> lld, true. Happened with China, India and Malaysia. Will happen with Vietnam soon.
[03:46:04] <lld> its why I see communism/socialism as just state capitalism without the honesty
[03:46:10] <c0lo> May take a while, but will happen with Africa too.
[03:46:14] <lld> yep
[03:46:29] <lld> productivity goes to the lowest bidder
[03:47:14] <lld> unironically, China is on the road to communism correctly, by going through the capitalist phase first :)
[03:47:15] <c0lo> TheMightyBuzzard-- boring cliches are boring.
[03:47:15] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 393
[03:47:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> very long term, globalization would be a good thing. short, medium, and long term it'd hurt like hell.
[03:47:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> c0lo, that's not a cliche, that's a fact. unless you have another definition of socialism/communism that means what you earn you keep.
[03:48:31] <c0lo> Nordic countries reached social demovracy going through capitalism too.
[03:48:39] <lld> workers aren't interested at the marketing side of production though
[03:48:49] <lld> they'd rather pawn off the machines for cold hard cash
[03:48:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> nordic countries are living off a big ole pool of oil. nothing you see there has any relevance.
[03:49:00] <lld> ironically no longer owning the means of production
[03:49:14] <c0lo> TMB, define https://en.wikipedia.org
[03:49:15] <systemd> ^ 03Mondragon Corporation - Wikipedia
[03:49:29] <lld> lemme know when I can buy mondragon guns
[03:49:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> and? that has nothing to do with nation state government
[03:50:24] <lld> nah, you just need to give mondragon power over the national level
[03:50:39] <lld> mondragon as a state :)
[03:50:48] <lld> there, it is now a nation state government
[03:50:50] <c0lo> lld, try to stay relevant to the discussion
[03:51:10] <lld> c0lo: its because all these socialists are just in denial
[03:51:26] <lld> they *want* to be the capitalist fat cats they hate so much
[03:51:31] <c0lo> TMB, your definition of socialism is related to nation-state?
[03:51:35] <lld> they hate it because it isn't them
[03:51:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> another little nifty thing about mondragon? employment is voluntary.
[03:52:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> c0lo, yes. because everyone who keeps trying to shove socialism down my throat is doing it at a national or international level.
[03:52:38] <lld> I'd rather be dealing with a psychopath like Gordon Gecko, at least I can see where his hands are
[03:52:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> cooperatives have yet to try taking my shit
[03:53:00] <c0lo> I don't try to do it. I'm more into the socialism as a local community.
[03:53:23] <AzumaHazuki> ITT: at least one person unclear on definition of socialism
[03:53:23] <lld> its called a family/clan
[03:53:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> still evil. try something more like voluntarily taking care of your neighbors when they need a hand. if it's forced any moral brownie points are lost from the use of force.
[03:54:23] <AzumaHazuki> the phrase "cold as charity" exists for a reason
[03:54:40] <c0lo> When enough of those communities get to the point of pooling their resources to maintain their roads and hire police and support military, you can get a coop at a national level.
[03:54:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> quit being cold then. we ain't down this way.
[03:54:51] <AzumaHazuki> "fuck you, got mine"
[03:54:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, fuck you, hands off mine
[03:55:29] <AzumaHazuki> how did you get yours? :) all by your lonesone? no one helped you, no one built systems in which you were able to get yours? you wrested it from mother nature's bloody iron grip yourself?
[03:55:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'll give you the shirt off my back if you need it but i'll cut your throat if you try taking it
[03:55:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> bitch, please. any system i've made use of i've paid for. same as you.
[03:55:57] <AzumaHazuki> "show me my signature on the social contract"
[03:56:07] <c0lo> Keep your money, TMB. I'll send ari to take only your boat. For the advancement of the community, see? (large grin)
[03:56:17] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[03:56:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> he's greek, we'd prolly end up drunk and fishing and arguing philosophy (the major thing done when fish aren't biting anyway)
[03:57:38] <c0lo> See? Socialists are bon vivant-s.
[03:57:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - AstraZeneca's Dosage Error Casts a Cloud of Doubt around Entire COVID-19 Clinical Trial - https://sylnt.us
[03:58:17] <c0lo> He may even bring some ouzo... in exchange for your boat (grin)
[03:58:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> naw, socialist= i'm a nice guy and you might not be, so i'm going to force you to act like i think you should.
[03:59:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> but greeks n booze and boats generally work out well without a fiscal system coming into play
[03:59:21] <c0lo> Your image about socialist is skewed.
[03:59:26] <AzumaHazuki> smells like...*sniff* ...yup, burning straw
[03:59:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> nope, that's exactly what it is.
[03:59:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> at a nation state level
[03:59:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> always
[04:00:10] <AzumaHazuki> what did i warn you about? massacre strawmen like this, and they wait for you in Hell, where they hang you upside down and shove straw up (down?) your ass and take bets on how long before it leaks out your nose
[04:00:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> explain to me how it's not or gtfo with the strawman talk
[04:00:39] <AzumaHazuki> define socialism first :)
[04:00:46] <AzumaHazuki> because right now i just see a lotta feelz
[04:01:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> not my job. i'll believe anyone who says they're a socialist.
[04:01:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> and every one who ever has at a national level has gone for exactly that.
[04:01:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> in all of human history
[04:01:27] <c0lo> TMB, do you admit that is possible the coop mode of production to be the majority of social organisations?
[04:01:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> c0lo, sure. if it's voluntary i have no issue.
[04:01:56] <AzumaHazuki> wait, if you don't even know what it is you're fighting against, why and how can you fight? that's just a temper tantrum
[04:02:04] <AzumaHazuki> define your terms first
[04:02:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, it's taking shitstains at their word.
[04:02:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> regardless, you're not even attempting to provide a counterpoint, so we're done here.
[04:03:02] <AzumaHazuki> their word to be what, precisely?
[04:03:15] <c0lo> Then, do you admit that is possible to evolve to a stage where those coops reach a point where they afford to hire their own police/military/road builders etc?
[04:03:22] <AzumaHazuki> define your terms. what are you so frightened of? what are the "shitstains" claiming to be that frightens you so hard?
[04:11:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> c0lo, doesn't matter to me what they do as long as they don't try forcing anyone else to be part of their borg collective. standard objections to monopoly abuses reserved of course.
[04:13:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't have a problem in the world if a group of folks want to start a cooperative business. i have issue with unions that attempt to force people to join though.
[04:14:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, see above re: done. you're not putting forth an argument of your own, just playing pedantic games.
[04:16:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> blarg. eight more days and a wakeup till cyberpunk 2077.
[04:22:42] <AzumaHazuki> i'm cooking, so will be back and forth a bunch
[04:23:12] <AzumaHazuki> sweet potato and red lentil curry for lunch (at midnight since I'm a creature of the night now)
[04:24:15] <AzumaHazuki> so, there's a hell of a lot to unpack here, and i'm frankly not convinced it's worth the energy or time. you've already made up what passes for your mind. the problem is a level deeper than what's being discussed here
[04:26:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> can't back you on the lentils. them and butter beans are legumes i just can't get behind.
[04:27:05] <AzumaHazuki> more for me :)
[04:27:22] <AzumaHazuki> they're cheap, cook quickly, nutritions, and easy to make
[04:27:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> stepmom loves em. must be a yankee thing.
[04:29:01] <AzumaHazuki> identity politics over beans now?
[04:29:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> regional preferences
[04:30:00] <AzumaHazuki> "yankee" is practically a swear in the Peoples' Republic of Incestistan though
[04:30:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> like you get a lot more brown gravy north of TN than white.
[04:31:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> depends on context. if it's surrounded by "carpetbagging" "snare drumming" and/or "lawyer", it's almost certainly a grave insult. if it's said with a smirk and a shake of the head it's probably good natured ribbing.
[04:32:39] <AzumaHazuki> until it isn't, of course
[04:33:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> helps if you realize that it's so bloody hot and muggy down here a lot of the year that getting a good mad about something worked up is entirely too much effort.
[04:34:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> regardless, any use of yankee that isn't preceded by an adjective of derisive nature probably isn't anything serious
[04:35:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, i kinda wanna pay the extra $21 for a trout license this year. i don't like trout much for eating but the only one i've ever caught wasn't any bigger than my finger.
[04:36:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm frankly amazed it bit a lure half as big as it was
[04:39:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, dryer is done. i can put the washer stuff in and sleep now.
[04:51:47] <Runaway1956> https://www.rt.com
[04:51:49] <systemd> ^ 03TRUCKLOAD of election fraud? Whistleblower testimony part of claim disputing over a MILLION ballots across US ( https://www.rt.com )
[04:53:36] <lld> nobody bothers explain what the whistleblowers and witnesses saw
[04:54:00] <Runaway1956> nine minutes of explanation from the witness himself LLD
[04:54:01] <lld> s/explain/to explain/
[04:54:01] <SedBot> <lld> nobody bothers to explain what the whistleblowers and witnesses saw
[04:54:25] <lld> Runaway1956: I mean, nobody is even countering them
[04:54:45] <Runaway1956> Oh, got ya - no, they just dismiss it all
[04:55:05] <lld> whole bunch of witnesses and whistleblowers, nobody is even trying to deny anything or explain it away
[04:55:33] <lld> no libel/slander lawsuits
[04:55:57] <lld> its a mystery~
[04:56:11] <Runaway1956> as a former truck driver, this guy is making sense to me - he may not make a lot of sense to people who have never been in the industry
[04:56:58] <Runaway1956> the question he doesn't address is: Why is a partial trailer load of ballots from New York to Pennsylvania?
[04:57:19] <Runaway1956> could be USPS routing, but it's weird
[04:57:30] <lld> which hearing is that? I'm still half way through the AZ hearing, its looooooooooooong
[04:58:27] <Runaway1956> amistad project is referenced, not sure what hearing this is exactly, finished the vid, reading now
[04:59:24] <lld> I don't trust search engines to even bring me to the right page
[04:59:40] <lld> any link to this amistad project information?
[04:59:47] <Runaway1956> mmmmmm - specially since the largest search engine in the world has already taken sides on this shit
[05:00:05] <Runaway1956> just the link above, so far
[05:00:37] <lld> I was trying to find out what OANN or Newsmax is, even wikipedia claims its a fringe far right network
[05:00:40] <lld> funny thing was
[05:00:53] <lld> at the time, all their news videos were hosted on youtube
[05:01:14] <lld> how can you be fringe and far right while still be on something so mainstream like youtube
[05:01:31] <lld> if I wanted fringe, I'd go look up David Icke
[05:02:34] <Runaway1956> worth looking at - just found it https://www.thomasmoresociety.org
[05:02:35] <systemd> ^ 03Lawsuits Against State of Michigan Filed to Defend Life, Religious Liberty, and Traditional Family Values
[05:02:45] <lld> I've known about Icke for more than 20 years
[05:02:54] <Runaway1956> thomas moore society, not familiar with them
[05:05:45] <lld> https://en.wikipedia.org more and more relevant
[05:05:46] <systemd> ^ 03Die Lösung - Wikipedia
[05:06:33] <lld> the people have forsaken the trust of their government, would it not be easier to disband the people and elect another?
[05:06:57] <lld> s/disband/dissolve/
[05:06:58] <SedBot> <lld> the people have forsaken the trust of their government, would it not be easier to dissolve the people and elect another?
[05:09:07] <Runaway1956> I'm not getting a whole lot on Thomas Moore . . . look alright maybe
[05:09:50] <lld> I'd watch who their detractors and enemies are
[05:10:29] <c0lo> Runaway1956, you are suggesting illegalities happen. For such cases, there are law courts, not the court of public opinion.
[05:10:38] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.upi.com
[05:10:40] <systemd> Submitting "Storing carbon through tree planting, preservation costs more than thought"...
[05:10:45] <Runaway1956> whatever c0lo
[05:10:52] <c0lo> Truckloads of evidence? How come none got it in front of the judges?
[05:11:02] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Storing Carbon Through Tree Planting, Preservation Costs More Than Thought" (16 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[05:11:29] <Runaway1956> you didn't read the article, or watch the video colo - how can you have an opinion?
[05:12:43] <Runaway1956> if you wish to address the matter at hand, you'll have to either read, or watch the vidya
[05:13:14] <c0lo> Because in a state were the law and order prevail, I don't need to. This is why I'm paying taxes, for people called judges to be educated and be an expert of balancing the facts to get what is wrong out.
[05:13:42] <Runaway1956> You have never paid a singe cent in taxes in New York or Pennsylvania, now have you?
[05:13:49] * Runaway1956 has
[05:14:53] <Runaway1956> It's easy to "prove" what you want to "prove", when you won't even look at the evidence put in front of you, LMAO
[05:16:05] <c0lo> No, but you did. And now you want to subtitute the expertise in legal matters for those judges with your dilettantism in the matter of law. Which is irrational.
[05:16:23] <Runaway1956> Whatever c0lo
[05:16:32] <AzumaHazuki> he has you there, you know
[05:16:50] <AzumaHazuki> same as i wouldn't expect those lawmakers to drive a truck, i wouldn't ask you to handle matters of law
[05:17:09] <Runaway1956> your mind is made up, can't be swayed, even if you were to be presented with video evidence of Ds burning wheelbarrow loads of Trump ballots
[05:17:31] <AzumaHazuki> does such video evidence exist?
[05:17:34] <Runaway1956> "has me", right
[05:17:38] <c0lo> I will care when the judges will say I need to care.
[05:17:47] <Runaway1956> you wouldn't care if it did exist, that's the point 'zumi
[05:17:54] <Runaway1956> nor would c0lo
[05:18:01] <AzumaHazuki> also, please note, Runaway, even large swathes of the GOP are telling him to give it up already
[05:18:14] <c0lo> Not when Trump or Biden wants me to care.
[05:18:16] <AzumaHazuki> ...but of course those people are now RINOs, right?
[05:18:16] <Runaway1956> no judge in Murica can tell you that you need to care about anything colo
[05:18:31] <Runaway1956> you're being silly and disingenouus at the same time
[05:18:54] <c0lo> This is why the separation of power are necessary for democracy, isn't it?
[05:18:55] <Runaway1956> There have always been RINOs - so what's new?
[05:19:09] <AzumaHazuki> so everyone who's now telling him to pack it in is a RINO even if they weren't last week? :)
[05:19:11] <AzumaHazuki> my, my
[05:19:30] <AzumaHazuki> at this rate the Only True Scotsman^W Republican will be Trump himself
[05:19:32] <Runaway1956> Uhhhhh, no c0lo, the separation of powers has nothing at all to do with me, as a private citizen, deciding who to believe
[05:19:53] <Runaway1956> And, you're being silly now zumi - Trump is no true Republican
[05:20:02] <AzumaHazuki> who IS a true Republican? :)
[05:20:29] <lld> Trump is now republican, rino is merely a heretical form
[05:20:39] <Runaway1956> There are loads of them - who was that freak who demanded that all republicans sign a pledge, before the party would give them any funding?
[05:21:01] <Runaway1956> Trump is not any more Republican than I am
[05:21:04] <c0lo> So, yo don't trust police, gvt, judges, millitary, you don't trust 80M other voters. If you get to the point of not trusting even your neighbor, I reckon 'Zumi can tell you some medication that can help with paranoia.
[05:21:19] <AzumaHazuki> c0lo: I can. Rocuronium, in a very large IV dose.
[05:21:24] <lld> trust the system, trust the system
[05:21:30] <AzumaHazuki> with a big shot of midazolam if i'm feeling generous
[05:21:53] <c0lo> lld, you wll have to trust something from around you.
[05:21:58] <Runaway1956> so c0lo is now an authoritarian who insists that I "trust" everyone in a position of power?
[05:22:17] <lld> yes c0lo, I will need to trust authorities, because they are authoritative
[05:22:28] <c0lo> Not trusting anybody won't do for a society.
[05:22:29] <carny> Runaway1956: have the marxists managed to demoralize you with their lies and propaganda yet?
[05:22:45] <Runaway1956> Nahhhh, carny they can't do that
[05:22:53] <AzumaHazuki> the guy's own fucking allies are telling him it's over! William donkey-punching Barr is saying it even!
[05:22:54] <carny> i find that the more i ignore them the happier and more productive i become
[05:23:07] <AzumaHazuki> this is tribal insanity
[05:23:21] <lld> Allies? you mean rinos?
[05:23:27] <lld> have they been allies?
[05:23:40] <lld> imma wait for the day rinos rise up for Trump
[05:23:40] <Runaway1956> insanity is trusting everyone else's opinion, and not having your own
[05:23:40] <AzumaHazuki> ...have...have you been paying attention to what Barr's done?
[05:23:55] <lld> Barr is still on muh russia
[05:24:22] <AzumaHazuki> seems i'm wasting my time here :/ reasoning with someone who doesn't reason is like giving medicine to a corpse
[05:24:50] <Runaway1956> right back at you - you don't reason, you want to shove your opinion down my throat
[05:24:50] <carny> lld: the term 'rino' is really just a white washed term for corrupt swamp creature who happens to be a republican at the moment
[05:24:54] <lld> still waiting on that russia
[05:25:02] <Runaway1956> "Trust Barr, because he now agrees with me!"
[05:25:22] <carny> they're not really any different from the people on the left like nancy pelosi
[05:25:28] <lld> carny: pretty much, its why I said Rino has been reduced to a heresy
[05:25:32] <carny> they just have a d instead of an r
[05:25:48] <carny> well i think you're cheapening the term heresy ;]
[05:25:59] <carny> at least there is actual heresy
[05:26:04] <Runaway1956> Would someone fill my coffee cup? I'm feeling too lazy to walk to the kitchen.
[05:26:06] <carny> 'rino' is just a distraction
[05:27:18] <lld> none of the rinos refuted the witnesses either
[05:27:41] <lld> none of those witnesses are sued
[05:27:43] <carny> there's too much evidence for anyone to refute it
[05:27:56] <lld> yeah but they aren't even trying
[05:28:03] <Runaway1956> I got the eldest son to pry my arse out of my seat with a big crowbar . . .
[05:28:17] <lld> I'd know if they did because all the mainstream media will tell me
[05:28:28] <carny> if there's anyone so ignorant they're still repeating the 'there's no evidence!' propaganda just let them watch https://www.youtube.com
[05:28:31] <systemd> ^ 03LIVE: Trump lawyers and members of Arizona State Legislature hold hearing on election integrity
[05:28:35] <Runaway1956> coffee++
[05:28:35] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5405
[05:29:11] <c0lo> carny, go present everything to judges, under oath and penatly for perjury.
[05:29:18] <Runaway1956> Hey, I'd like to make something clear here:
[05:29:34] <AzumaHazuki> okay, so now we have an interesting scenario...if there was all that fraud, republicans seem to be the ones most invested now in keeping it quiet so trump leaves
[05:29:40] <AzumaHazuki> i.e., there is now a civil war within the GOP
[05:29:46] <Runaway1956> If, and I say IF, we found out that all these allegations are absolutely FALSE, I'll be one pissed off MOFO
[05:29:59] * AzumaHazuki will hold you to this
[05:30:16] <lld> AzumaHazuki: you haven't noticed this since 2016?
[05:30:24] <Runaway1956> IF, it were half-way proven that all these lawsuits were part of a conspiracy, again, I would be extremely pissed off
[05:30:35] <AzumaHazuki> better go out there and start poaching some RINOs then :)
[05:30:40] <AzumaHazuki> go on, get hunting
[05:30:44] <AzumaHazuki> they're coming right for you!
[05:30:52] <lld> sure thing, commie
[05:30:58] <c0lo> Why should I take the pain of priving a falsity? The burden of proof stays with the claimant.
[05:31:00] <Runaway1956> What I'm seeing is, there are boatloads of people who are testifying UNDER OATH that they witnessed shenanigans
[05:31:11] <AzumaHazuki> and no one ever lies under oath
[05:31:12] <Runaway1956> and they are being scoffed at, and not even taken seriously
[05:31:12] <c0lo> s/privi/provi/
[05:31:12] <SedBot> <c0lo> Why should I take the pain of proving a falsity? The burden of proof stays with the claimant.
[05:31:19] <Runaway1956> that's a real problem
[05:31:44] <Runaway1956> take their testimony, examine, cross examine, verify, refute - but don't dismiss out of hand
[05:32:00] <Runaway1956> it's the dismissals that look suspicious, like maybe judges are bought off
[05:32:06] <AzumaHazuki> sounds like all you fine second amendment people may need to take the law into your own hands, like you've been salivating and creaming yourselves over for years
[05:32:08] <Runaway1956> or the judges are all Democrats
[05:32:12] <Runaway1956> or some damned thing
[05:32:26] <Runaway1956> Don't mock it yet, Azuma
[05:32:26] <c0lo> Have the claimant provide the proofs to judges and when I hear them "That *was* and was wrong", I'll start to care.
[05:32:28] * AzumaHazuki wonders if this is going to be what turns runaway into the next clock tower sniper
[05:32:41] <c0lo> Until then, it's a waste of my time.
[05:32:46] <carny> Runaway1956: what's the point in trying to argue with someone who won't admit provable math?
[05:32:54] <Runaway1956> c0lo, no one gives a damn what an Ozzie thinks - you didn't vote
[05:33:05] <lld> DC sniper was 2 men
[05:33:10] <carny> you can only ignore them or incarcerate them
[05:33:12] <lld> it paralyzed the entire city
[05:33:18] <AzumaHazuki> and runaway's nuts enough for 2 people. your point?
[05:33:21] <lld> cause they wanted to start a race war
[05:33:46] <AzumaHazuki> ...good thing runaway's never ever ever said anything that would make anyone think he had any ideas along those lines! :D
[05:34:01] <Runaway1956> to be fair, the Beltway Sniper shit came right in the middle of a whole lot of OTHER nasty shit
[05:34:06] <Runaway1956> anthrax letters
[05:34:08] <lld> okay commie
[05:34:10] <Runaway1956> 9/11
[05:34:14] <carny> in pennsylvania 1.8 million ballots are mailed out and 2.5 million ballots come back
[05:34:16] <Runaway1956> etc ad nauseum
[05:34:22] <carny> 'there's no evidence!'
[05:34:37] <Runaway1956> exactly - how do we account for 680,000 extra ballots
[05:34:42] <carny> lld: that's a perfect response for these people
[05:34:46] <lld> "no proof"
[05:34:49] <carny> 'ok commie'
[05:34:53] <lld> :)
[05:35:10] <carny> Runaway1956: the intelligent point is that 'we' don't have to
[05:35:12] <Runaway1956> lld++
[05:35:12] <Bender> karma - lld: 1
[05:35:26] <carny> the burden of proof is on the elections officials to demonstrate that there has been no fraud
[05:35:30] <AzumaHazuki> lld: I'm not a communist. i'm a boring old Nordic social democrat, a capitalist liberal. if you insist on calling me communist, that means i have precisely as much right to call you a paedophile. not a paederast, mind, just a paedophile :)
[05:35:41] <lld> sure thing, oil baron commie
[05:35:42] <carny> all elections are fraudulent until proven otherwise
[05:35:57] <lld> come'on, call it
[05:36:14] <AzumaHazuki> actually, on that note, have you stopped beating your wife yet?
[05:36:15] <carny> lld++
[05:36:15] <Bender> karma - lld: 2
[05:36:32] <Runaway1956> I'll stop beating her when we're both dead, LOL
[05:36:37] <lld> AzumaHazuki: see was that so hard?
[05:36:46] <AzumaHazuki> answer the question, wife-beater
[05:36:46] <c0lo> Provable math, eh? With input data from Edison County maybe, carny?
[05:36:49] <c0lo> https://www.freep.com
[05:36:51] <systemd> ^ 03Election lawsuit cites fraud in Michigan county that does not exist
[05:36:57] <lld> sure thing commie
[05:37:08] <AzumaHazuki> answer the question, wifebeater
[05:37:22] <lld> it is in my holybooks that when your wife disrespects you, you beat her
[05:37:26] <lld> its that simple
[05:37:33] <Runaway1956> Now C0lo is a freeper - how come they don't have an RSS feed?
[05:37:52] <AzumaHazuki> ah, which strain of Abrahamic perversion did you in, lld?
[05:37:53] <Runaway1956> but you shouldn't use a rod thicker than your thumb, right?
[05:38:09] <AzumaHazuki> i mean they all stem from the same pathological root, but there's three major ones
[05:38:14] <lld> I do try to keep to my faith :)
[05:38:39] <Runaway1956> ho-hum - azuma sprang from a pathological root too
[05:38:47] <Runaway1956> or did she sprung?
[05:39:03] <AzumaHazuki> this may surprise you but a God who loses to a bunch of smelly savages in iron chariots (judges 1:19) isn't actually a God, by way of not being omni*
[05:39:40] <AzumaHazuki> so kudos for remaining true to your faith but your faith is at best mythological masturbation and at worst literal demon worship
[05:39:40] <lld> does it matter if its my holybooks?
[05:39:41] <Runaway1956> geez, just what I was looking forward to - arguing metal-physics
[05:39:42] <c0lo> No need for RSS feed, a search on Twitter wil show me all the grifters. And a crosscheck with Google news will bring local news alright.
[05:39:44] <c0lo> https://mobile.twitter.com
[05:39:45] <systemd> ^ 03Search Twitter - #RINO
[05:40:13] * AzumaHazuki is now wondering if lld is that weirdo AC who keeps posting Qu'ran verses
[05:40:30] <lld> you wish I was
[05:40:53] * c0lo thinks lld is searching for buttons to push for keks. He's sad, most of the time
[05:40:58] <lld> you can start with Reliant of the Traveler
[05:41:11] <Runaway1956> all hail the mighty Kek
[05:41:18] <lld> kek
[05:41:48] <c0lo> See, 'Zumi, how little those creatures need to feel happy?
[05:42:02] <AzumaHazuki> i would envy them, except...well, yeah
[05:42:27] <AzumaHazuki> that's like envying someone with a colostomy bag for not needing to buy toilet paper
[05:42:28] <Runaway1956> kek triggers enlarged progressive glands
[05:42:58] <AzumaHazuki> well, these last 4 years have been very educational if nothing else
[05:43:19] <AzumaHazuki> turns out all the second-guessing i'd been doing about my own cynicism was unnecessary.
[05:43:28] <Runaway1956> All the lessons have been there all along, for those who look at history
[05:45:01] <AzumaHazuki> yet pointing that out just gets charges of breaking Godwin's Law :D
[05:45:07] <c0lo> AzumaHazuki++ second guessing waste of your time for the benefit of others.
[05:45:07] <Bender> karma - azumahazuki: 46
[05:45:30] <Runaway1956> ./ running a story on Amazon spying on employees - saw a similar story about Microsoft earlier today
[05:45:45] <Runaway1956> 24/7 surveillance - great for morale, huh?
[05:46:24] <Runaway1956> and if you, as an employee, are .07 seconds slower than your coworkers at some task, the computer will document it and generate a warning
[05:46:35] <AzumaHazuki> private companies can do whatever they want within the confines of the laws (which they can buy). anything else is communism
[05:46:44] <AzumaHazuki> why do you hate america?
[05:46:51] <Runaway1956> that's the moronic shit I keep hearing
[05:46:57] <AzumaHazuki> okay, commie
[05:47:06] <Runaway1956> private companies can violate you in any way they like, and you have no recourse
[05:47:31] <Runaway1956> that's why restaurants can exclude black people, gay people, tall people, and ugly people
[05:48:11] <Runaway1956> unfortunately for zumi, she was excluded for ugly, not gay
[05:48:39] <AzumaHazuki> wait, was this at the same place you were excluded for trying to stick your dick in the beef wellington?
[05:49:00] <Runaway1956> I stick my feet into my wellingtons, not my dick you dumbass
[05:49:24] <AzumaHazuki> you have a third foot at almost waist height? freak. this is why cousins shouldn't fuck
[05:49:26] <Runaway1956> and it doesn't matter if my wellingtons came from beef skins or pork skins or ostrich skins
[05:49:41] <Runaway1956> Yes, it's only a foot . . .
[05:50:02] <AzumaHazuki> or are you just calling it that? :D
[05:50:15] <Runaway1956> I wish you would stop calling it
[05:50:26] <AzumaHazuki> hey, you were the one sodomizing a beef roll
[05:50:34] <AzumaHazuki> NB, that is NOT what "tube steak" means
[05:51:06] <Runaway1956> Why is it always zumi who directs the conversation toward sexual organs?
[05:51:09] <AzumaHazuki> then again, we all had to explain "animal husbandry" to you too, so...
[05:51:18] <AzumaHazuki> Arkansas rots yer brain, boy
[05:51:21] <Runaway1956> Three guys here, and no one made any sexual inuendos
[05:51:25] <Runaway1956> except zumi
[05:51:47] <AzumaHazuki> 'cause it pisses you off :) you can't resist responding. it hits you right in the metaphorical manhood, such as is there
[05:51:54] <AzumaHazuki> you keep taking the bait and i will never understand why
[05:52:21] <Runaway1956> "pissed off" is not equivalent to "rolling eyes because the moron does it again"
[05:52:31] <AzumaHazuki> and yet you can't resist
[05:52:42] * c0lo gets back to 21Q1 planning
[05:53:16] <Runaway1956> https://www.youtube.com
[05:53:19] <systemd> ^ 03LIVE: Trump lawyers and members of Arizona State Legislature hold hearing on election integrity
[05:53:35] <Runaway1956> midnite hearing, lol
[05:54:54] <Runaway1956> Elon Musk had the covids
[05:55:26] <Runaway1956> =submit https://mashable.com
[05:55:28] <systemd> Submitting "After all his 'bogus' talk, Elon Musk actually did have COVID-19"...
[05:55:49] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03After All His 'Bogus' Talk, Elon Musk Actually Did Have COVID-19" (0 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[05:58:39] <Runaway1956> it is NOT LEGAL for dead people to lie in the snow
[05:58:43] <Runaway1956> https://globalnews.ca
[05:58:44] <systemd> ^ 03Investigation underway after Regina police find dead woman lying in snow - Regina
[06:00:33] <carny> was he actually sick or did he just have 4 fragments of viran rna in his nose?
[06:00:58] <lld> quick replicate the PCR 40 more times, we have to make sure
[06:01:06] <carny> can i get a tldr or are you going to make me read the article before i scoff at the state of journalism in america? ;]
[06:01:45] <carny> lld: all tests must run exactly 42 cycles to appease the forces of the universe
[06:01:53] <lld> true
[06:02:14] <lld> but the real story is what the color of the woman's socks were
[06:03:21] <Runaway1956> 42
[06:04:16] <carny> oh i see he had the antigen test come up positive twice and negative twice
[06:05:33] <Runaway1956> I don't trust anything other than the mutagen tests
[06:07:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - We've Mapped a Million Previously Undiscovered Galaxies Beyond the Milky Way - https://sylnt.us - listening-to-the-universe
[06:12:03] <pinchy> https://twitter.com
[06:12:04] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter ( https://mobile.twitter.com )
[07:08:24] <Runaway1956> hmmmm - 36,000 "illegal immigrants" in Arizona, almost 5,000 of them in Maricopa county, whose voting eligibility is in question - and no one is permitted to investigate them
[07:09:21] <Runaway1956> These are primarily people who applied for a driver's license online, and registered to vote at the same time, but have never presented any citizenship documents - anywhere
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[08:16:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SpaceX Will Launch Remote Controlled Racecars to Lunar Surface - https://sylnt.us
[10:06:22] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://www.theguardian.com from the friends-don't-let-friends-drive-drunk dept.
[10:06:25] <systemd> Submitting "Georgia Republican warns Trump is inciting violence over election: 'Someone will get hurt'"...( 1 modified urls; http://www.theguardian.com )
[10:06:47] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Georgia Republican Warns Trump is Inciting Violence Over Election: 'Someone Will Get Hurt'" (14 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:09:12] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://www.theguardian.com from the mcnuggets-2.0 dept.
[10:09:14] <systemd> Submitting "No-kill, lab-grown meat to go on sale for first time"...( 1 modified urls; http://www.theguardian.com )
[10:09:36] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03No-kill, Lab-grown Meat to Go on Sale for First Time" (23 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:15:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Might Know Why Astronauts Develop Health Problems in Space - https://sylnt.us - not-so-mightychondria
[10:16:19] <chromas> beat-free meaties?
[10:17:44] <chromas> https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net
[10:34:19] <AzumaHazuki> assuming they can replace the bovine serum with a plant formulation, as stated, yes. Personally, if they do this right i'll be all over it
[12:12:57] <FatPhil> anyone else seeing a much increased SSH botnet attack on their home machines in the last week or so?
[12:13:29] <FatPhil> I've got all my mahcines on non-standard SSH ports, and they're all being hammered currently.
[12:14:04] <FatPhil> (OK, there's one router that forwards 2220-2225 to the various different machines, they're all on 22 internally)
[12:14:24] <requerdanos> still, it's not 22 that's being targeted?
[12:14:50] <requerdanos> I don't have any ports forwarded since moving house in october
[12:14:51] <FatPhil> presumably that is too, but nothing's listening to port 22 on the router, so I'll never know!
[12:16:32] <FatPhil> fail2ban default config was useless, there were so many machines (500-1000 IPs per day) that each one only needed to probe once every hour, and so never tripped banning.
[12:25:24] <lld> just use a non default port
[12:25:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Neanderthals Didn’t Use Their Thumbs Like We Do, New Research Suggests - https://sylnt.us
[12:25:31] <lld> or use port knocking :)
[12:31:10] <requerdanos> uh, I am pretty sure 2220-2225 are non-default already
[12:31:37] <lld> maybe too many people thought that
[12:31:39] <FatPhil> 222* are non-default but seem to be popular choices for non-defaults
[12:31:44] <lld> use a highport
[12:31:52] <lld> say 13582
[12:32:31] <FatPhil> it'll need to be memorable for derpy 'doze users whom I've given login accounts to!
[12:32:52] <lld> just use this .url file
[12:32:55] <AzumaHazuki> welcome to nightshift. where every day is monday, today is tomorrow, yesterday is today, and no one knows what day of the week it is
[12:33:15] <FatPhil> AzumaHazuki: that's what you said next month!
[12:33:22] <AzumaHazuki> i know D:
[12:33:39] <AzumaHazuki> well...i'm already a lost child in time. may as well be on the shift for it
[12:34:45] <lld> I have problems teaching contractors to read gpt UUIDs
[12:34:46] <FatPhil> Do you like comedy slasher movies? If so, try to get your hands on /12 hour shift/
[12:35:46] <lld> I really don't have enough time to tend all the basic issues, there aren't enough competent staff
[12:41:39] <FatPhil> We're a small company, one of my jobs is all the IT stuff!
[12:42:13] <lld> nah, I'm more software engineering
[12:42:54] <FatPhil> I enjoy that as a hobby, so have grown sick of it as a job after decades.
[12:43:33] <lld> I enjoy software engineering if I get to set the goals :)
[12:44:27] <FatPhil> that's why it's good as a hobby
[12:44:53] <lld> I also need money for by other hobbies
[12:48:18] <FatPhil> I'm not sure why my home network is being picked on by the botnet way more than the work network (~10 machines attacking, rather than ~500). However, I've now ramped up the hardenning on that network too, just in case the attacks move around.
[12:49:05] <FatPhil> Who permits root login with a password?!?!? This is a dumb attack. It's more an annoyance in my logs than an actual threat
[12:50:35] <lld> true, the only place I leave root access are test systems that are designed to be wiped every few hours
[12:52:38] <lld> aha good way to test to make sure passwords auth is disabled
[12:52:47] <lld> ssh -o PreferredAuthentications=password -o PubkeyAuthentication=no root@ipaddress
[12:59:08] <FatPhil> I have ``PermitRootLogin forced-commands-only'' as I want backup scripts to be able to come in freely.
[12:59:47] <lld> root@ipaddress /bin/sh ?
[12:59:49] <lld> :)
[13:00:51] <FatPhil> /bin/sh isn't my backup script
[13:01:22] <lld> can't it run /bin/sh as the command?
[13:02:37] <c0lo> Who needs sh when one can use emacs as the shell? (grin)
[13:02:56] <FatPhil> emacs is the *operating system*, you silly boy
[13:03:23] <lld> run /sbin/kexec
[13:03:41] <c0lo> With a shell included. Still not the kernel... as yet.
[13:03:41] <FatPhil> lld: nope, you specify exactly the command that it can run, that command is expected to sanitise its command line parameters
[13:03:59] <FatPhil> splattering's working on it...
[13:04:03] <lld> I should check out that feature
[13:05:59] <lld> aha you point it to an executable and ask it if that command was allowed
[13:08:21] <FatPhil> # grep validate-sshfs /root/.ssh/*
[13:08:46] <FatPhil> /root/.ssh/authorized_keys:from="*",command="/root/.ssh/validate-sshfs" [...blahblah...] root@hostname
[13:08:51] <lld> its in the authorized keys file
[13:09:48] <FatPhil> and validate-sshfs starts its checks: case "$SSH_ORIGINAL_COMMAND" in
[13:09:48] <FatPhil> (/usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server)
[13:10:09] <FatPhil> there should be plenty to google for in that to find fuller explained examples
[13:10:21] <lld> yeah found a bunch
[13:11:01] <FatPhil> Oddly, I don't think mine's secure enough, having looked at it! But maybe I'm paranoid
[13:11:25] <FatPhil> Different machines might have different versions of the script, I should check that too...
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[13:48:11] <chromas> How about an operating system where all the files are called "filename" with all the permutations of letter casing?
[13:49:21] <lld> I still remember Microsoft touting the FUTURE OF PC
[13:49:31] <lld> where you don't need to name your files anymore
[13:49:47] <chromas> Was that before WinFS?
[13:49:56] <chromas> maybe Bob
[13:49:56] <lld> probably around that time
[13:50:09] <chromas> m u l t i m e d i a
[13:50:14] <lld> WinFS era
[13:50:47] <lld> today I am still stuck with Report Summary (3).xlsx
[13:51:17] <chromas> Copy of Report Summary(3)(1).xlsx.lnk
[13:51:23] <lld> lol
[13:53:12] <Bytram> chromas++ thanks
[13:53:12] <Bender> karma - chromas: 318
[13:53:30] <chromas> Don't blame me; he dunnit
[14:16:01] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.livescience.com
[14:16:03] <systemd> Submitting "Black holes may not exist, but fuzzballs might, wild theory suggests"...
[14:16:25] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Black Holes May Not Exist, but Fuzzballs Might, Wild Theory Suggests" (28 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:18:35] <Runaway1956> New controversy centers around "how do we force people to get a COVID shot"
[14:19:07] <Runaway1956> stupid question, really - if they inoculate 50% of the population, that should cut cases and deaths in half
[14:19:35] <Runaway1956> if the inoculate 75% that should cut cases and deaths by at least 75%, and probably more
[14:19:41] <chromas> Depends on which half though
[14:19:59] <Runaway1956> hardly matters - without inoculation, every human is a potential vector
[14:20:22] <Runaway1956> if you cut the number of vectors by 50% you've cut into both cases and deaths by about 50%
[14:20:41] <Runaway1956> every inoculated person decreases potential vector
[14:20:50] <chromas> Inoculate all the kids and young to middle-age adults, then still stick covid patients in nursing home with all the oldies like before
[14:21:09] <Runaway1956> Okay Cuomo
[14:21:17] <chromas> ok cuomor
[14:22:14] <Runaway1956> although, it does make sense to get kids first - they are the most common vector in spreading ALL communicable diseases
[14:23:40] <chromas> Boost the kids' immune systems by making them eat each other's boogers instead of their own
[14:23:43] <Runaway1956> At a guess, if/when they get 75% of the population, the disease pretty much goes away
[14:24:05] <Runaway1956> !grab chromas
[14:24:05] <Bender> Added quote 1008
[14:24:06] <Teckla> =submit https://arstechnica.com
[14:24:07] <systemd> Submitting "iPhone zero-click Wi-Fi exploit is one of the most breathtaking hacks ever"...
[14:24:14] <Teckla> ...yikes!
[14:24:29] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03iPhone Zero-click Wi-Fi Exploit is One of the Most Breathtaking Hacks Ever" (9 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:24:39] <chromas> zero-click? finally they can get rid of that one button on the mouse
[14:25:05] * Runaway1956 remembers popups that were activated by rolling over it
[14:25:52] <chromas> Remember pop-unders? That's the sort of technology browsers had no business innovating
[14:26:45] <lld> now they popup on click
[14:27:15] <lld> Runaway1956: deny them any rights until vaccinated
[14:27:19] <chromas> all those dumb options in the browser allowing javascript to resize windows, set the status bar and other things with no legitimate use
[14:28:54] <lld> javascript that make it impossible to check the link URL
[14:30:02] <chromas> speaking of twitter...
[14:30:30] <chromas> I added code to the bot to grab the summary string of twitter links instead of it just saying "Twitter" for the title
[14:30:38] <chromas> but it turns out there is no summary
[14:30:50] <chromas> it's just a redirect to a no-javascript page
[14:30:55] <chromas> twitter--
[14:30:55] <Bender> karma - twitter: -3
[14:31:04] <lld> nobody uses <head></head> anymore
[14:31:58] <chromas> the page also says it's going away in a couple weeks, so maybe that will fix twitter titles here
[14:35:12] <Runaway1956> at some point in time, we got the option to force all pupups and popunders to open in a new tab, instead of in some hidden place
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[14:35:31] <chromas> Opera did it first! :D
[14:35:47] <Runaway1956> That may be so chromas, although I have seldom used Opera
[14:36:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Why is Apple’s M1 Chip So Fast? - https://sylnt.us - all-the-chips
[14:36:37] <Runaway1956> that option happened near about the same time as myspace, as I recall
[14:36:56] <Runaway1956> myspace gave people reasons to want those sort of options, lol
[14:37:27] <chromas> myspace > facebook
[14:37:40] <lld> :my spacer:
[14:37:41] <Runaway1956> that's a matter of opinion
[14:38:05] <Runaway1956> myspace did horrid things, and the users created even more horrid pages than the default
[14:38:51] <chromas> That's what made it better
[14:38:57] <chromas> facebook doesn't let you do anything
[14:39:11] <Runaway1956> that is both good and bad, IMO
[14:39:29] <Runaway1956> it's the things that FB does behind the scenes that makes FB terrible
[14:40:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, safebook?
[14:40:41] <Runaway1956> spacebook is better - it refers to the empty space between user's ears
[14:40:42] <chromas> yep. they even cut the corners off all the pictures and buttons now
[14:41:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, think the #rss-bot colorizing bot is done.
[14:41:39] <chromas> the new round, mobile interface is their biggest innovation since putting the header bar on the bottom for awhile (take that, apple headphone jack!)
[14:41:52] <Runaway1956> i like the studies that demonstrate how FB and Tweet actually create bubbles, and insulate users from outside influence
[14:42:19] <lld> lemme guess, those studies got blocked on FB and Tweeter
[14:42:40] <chromas> no, he just keeps getting recommended more and more, inside his own bubble :)
[14:42:41] <Runaway1956> probably - since I don't get my news from either, I wouldn't know
[14:43:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> i actually want facebook to not tell me about news items at all. which is why i unfollow anyone who posts anything except dumb memes, baby pictures, or stuff about how their life's going
[14:43:42] <lld> google is feeding me local news on my phone one day
[14:43:55] <lld> had to block the news app which I never even used
[14:44:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> more fun to just uninstall it
[14:44:32] <lld> its a builtin app
[14:44:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> muhahahaha
[14:44:42] <chromas> root your phone
[14:44:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> deodexed build and root
[14:44:59] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.space.com
[14:45:00] <chromas> is deodexing still at thing?
[14:45:00] <systemd> Submitting "SpaceX's 1st crewed Mars mission could launch as early as 2024, Elon Musk says"...
[14:45:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup
[14:45:04] <lld> I wish I could, I don't have a popular phone
[14:45:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> me either but occasionally this guy still puts out a deodexed build
[14:45:22] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03SpaceX's 1st Crewed Mars Mission Could Launch as Early as 2024, Elon Musk Says" (17 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:45:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> no lineageos for me nowadays but thas okay if i can remove the bullshit i don't want proper like
[14:47:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, thas enough dicking around for me today
[14:47:30] <chromas> hickory dickery dock; the buzzard's run out the clock
[14:48:26] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.livescience.com
[14:48:27] <systemd> Submitting "Roman subjects paid emperor piles of silver to leave them alone, inscription reveals"...
[14:48:49] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Roman Subjects Paid Emperor Piles of Silver to Leave Them Alone, Inscription Reveals" (22 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:58:23] <Runaway1956> Christmas bear comes to Oz early
[14:58:28] <Runaway1956> https://www.9news.com.au
[14:58:28] <systemd> ^ 03Koala makes itself at home in South Australian woman's Christmas tree after 'wandering in'
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[16:37:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://babylonbee.com
[16:37:14] <systemd> ^ 03Biden All-Female Communications Team Won't Tell Nation What's Wrong, Nation Should Already Know
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[16:47:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - iPhone Zero-Click Wi-Fi Exploit is One of the Most Breathtaking Hacks Ever - https://sylnt.us - who-remembers-Morris?
[16:51:45] <lld> lol tmb
[17:54:24] <FatPhil> https://www.carscoops.com
[17:54:26] <systemd> ^ 03Watch A Driverless Roborace Race Car Hilariously Plow Itself Into Wall In First Live Broadcast Of The Series
[18:04:24] <carny> https://www.oann.com
[18:04:25] <systemd> ^ 03Ex-Goldman Sachs President Cohn has not returned pay after 1MDB clawbacks: Bloomberg News
[18:05:06] <carny> if a victim of a plane crash is worth 1.4 million does that mean mr cohn can be killed 7 times for failing to pay his fine?
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[18:57:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Synergism of TNF-α, IFN-γ Triggers Inflammatory Cell Death, Tissue Damage, Mortality in SARS-CoV-2 - https://sylnt.us - cell-mates'-suicide-pact
[19:59:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://babylonbee.com
[19:59:41] <systemd> ^ 03Sméagol Sets Pronouns To Ourses/Theirses
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[20:42:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://hackaday.com
[20:42:17] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[20:42:36] <ingar> https://wiki.soylentnews.org please mention you need SSL :p
[20:42:38] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews:IRC - SoylentNews
[20:42:43] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
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[20:45:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ingar, you don't. port 6667 is unencrypted. 6697-7000 are encrypted.
[20:46:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, ^^
[20:48:29] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Okaaay. Nice to know. Is that why you pinged me? Just a FYI?
[20:48:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause i don't have wiki altering privs
[20:52:17] <Bytram> Ohh, k. .... I can prolly fix that for you! :D
[20:52:19] <Ingar> TheMightyBuzzard: I jsut noticed it actually is there in the text body
[20:52:31] <Ingar> I actually had to read TFA
[20:53:39] <Ingar> protip: if your host is telling you your instance is going down and you need to migrate... don't postpone :D
[20:53:59] <Bytram> ouch!
[20:54:13] <Ingar> I was just in time
[20:54:21] <Bytram> whew!
[20:54:31] <Ingar> got a last warning mail, immediatly made backups, one hour later my VPS was down
[21:00:11] <Bytram> glad you caught it in time!
[21:06:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SpaceX's First Crewed Mars Mission Could Launch as Early as 2024, Elon Musk Says - https://sylnt.us - before-SLS-gets-to-the-moon?
[21:07:07] <Ingar> Bytram: so am I :) thanks!
[22:58:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> i am now the proud owner of a plate full of gravy fries. i leave you pitiful wretches to stew in your own envy.
[23:18:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Revamps ‘Invasive’ M365 Feature After Privacy Backlash - https://sylnt.us
[23:18:52] <c0lo> =submit https://uk.reuters.com
[23:18:54] <systemd> Submitting "U.S. Republicans balk as Trump uses defense bill for leverage on Big Tech"...( 1 modified urls; https://uk.reuters.com )
[23:19:16] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03U.S. Republicans Balk as Trump Uses Defense Bill for Leverage on Big Tech" (21 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[23:36:50] <Runaway1956> Hmmmm - fifteen bean soup was lacking a little something - it just didn't have the pizzazz I expected from it.
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[23:37:10] <Runaway1956> Maybe it needed a bit of bacon fat or something . . .
[23:58:58] <chromas> Needed a fifteenth bean
[23:59:09] <chromas> or sixteenth, if I could count