#soylent | Logs for 2020-12-01

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[00:00:01] * Runaway1956 steals Bytram backscroll
[00:00:37] * TheMightyBuzzard steals Bytram's backscroll from Runaway1956 and throws it in the dead sea
[00:00:44] -!- AzumaHazuki [AzumaHazuki!~hazuki@the.end.of.time] has joined #soylent
[00:01:02] <Runaway1956> You tricked me into summoning her . . . now look!
[00:01:37] * Runaway1956 never saw any backscroll, or dead sea scrolls, or any other scrolls
[00:01:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> nobody told you to sacrifice the chicken. i figured you'd have it for dinner.
[00:01:57] <Runaway1956> choked that bitch, lol
[00:02:12] <FatPhil> n.w. Seinfeld S04 E11 /The Contest/
[00:03:33] * Bytram heard you are what you eat. Decided to avoid chicken. Have a 5-gallon ham stew cooking atm. Somehow I am not sure that is an improvement. ;^)
[00:04:09] <Runaway1956> They're both omnivores Bytram - but the pig won't pick through shit unless forced to
[00:04:30] <Bytram> Why? Is it... chicken?
[00:04:41] * Runaway1956 rolls eyes
[00:05:00] * Bytram rolls 7's
[00:05:10] <Runaway1956> snake eyes
[00:05:14] * TheMightyBuzzard rolls with the homies
[00:05:54] * Bytram rocks and rolls
[00:06:32] <Runaway1956> I thought that was Sailor Sam's line
[00:08:53] <Bytram> =g "sailor sam"
[00:08:54] <systemd> https://moodyaudio.com - Sailor Sam | moodyaudio.com
[00:09:12] <Runaway1956> =yt band on the run
[00:09:13] <systemd> https://youtube.com - "Band on the Run" by Paul McCartney & Wings lyrics (HD) (05:13; 4,624,572 views; 👍35,746 👎1,197)
[00:09:29] <Bytram> ahhh, now I get it.
[00:09:37] <Bytram> Runaway1956++ tyvm
[00:09:37] <Bender> karma - runaway1956: 24
[00:09:51] * Runaway1956 can rock and roll the right way, the wrong way, and the Navy way
[00:15:14] <c0lo> Runaway can't pitch and yaw.
[00:15:50] * Runaway1956 can caulk your crevices though
[00:19:58] <Runaway1956> The Yellow Shirts are coming!
[00:20:03] <c0lo> Good memories, Runaway. I used those kind of jokes when just turning from a child into a teenager. One year later I matured a bit more and started smoking (grin)
[00:20:03] <Runaway1956> https://www.youtube.com
[00:20:05] <systemd> ^ 03The Animals - House of the Rising Sun (1964) HQ/Widescreen ♫♥ 56 YEARS AGO
[00:20:34] <Runaway1956> Peter Pansky never grew up, don't lie!
[00:27:59] <chromas> Runaway1956: s/(.)(..)(.)/\3\2\1/7
[00:27:59] <SedBot> <chromas> <Runaway1956> Peter Pansky never grew p,udon't lie!
[00:28:11] <chromas> fake news, SedBot
[00:30:36] <c0lo> Fake news https://www.rawstory.com
[00:30:36] <systemd> ^ 03Scott Atlas resigns as Trump’s special adviser on coronavirus: ‘I worked hard’
[00:32:55] <chromas> https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net
[00:35:50] <chromas> Looks like everyone's looking it up on amazon 'cause it autocompletes in the search, but with no good results
[00:45:22] <c0lo> The days of tots and pears are over https://oklahoman.com
[00:45:23] <systemd> ^ 03Stitt declares day of prayer and fasting for Oklahomans affected by...
[00:55:17] <c0lo> Hoping AzumaHazuki will remember this if she ever gets Runaway on a gurney https://twitter.com
[00:55:19] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter ( https://mobile.twitter.com )
[00:56:01] * c0lo grins and starts fixing those dam' bugs
[00:56:25] <Runaway1956> *yawn* no tats here
[01:02:52] <chromas> ooh cat8 cables on sale. is that even a thing?
[01:03:52] <carny> https://twitter.com
[01:03:53] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter ( https://mobile.twitter.com )
[01:04:17] <carny> isn't it interesting how 'health care professionals' want people to get sick enough require hospitalization?
[01:05:10] <carny> when there's solid data to suggest just having healthy levels of vitamin d and zinc in your diet is protective for most people
[01:06:03] <carny> and hcq treatment immediately after the onset of symptoms can eliminate acute onset
[01:06:45] <carny> but no let's make sure that hospitals can bill for every possible patient they can stick a swab up their nose
[01:07:05] <carny> and bill triple if they can get the patient intubated for 49 hours
[01:08:14] <c0lo> I wonder why they don't intern carny even his CT sickness is advanced enough to require hospitalization. And then I remember there's a pandemic to deal with first.
[01:09:47] <carny> OTTAWA (Reuters) – Canada plans to impose a tax on corporations providing digital services from 2022 that will stay in place until major nations come up with a coordinated approach on taxation, the Finance Department said on Monday.
[01:10:07] <carny> mark zuckerberg on suicide watch
[01:12:29] <c0lo> https://www.thelondoneconomic.com
[01:12:31] <systemd> ^ 03'Irony' as anti-lockdown protestor unable to come to court today after suffering with Covid symptoms
[01:13:08] <AzumaHazuki> c0lo: thank fuck i'm just a pharmacy worker, not an EMT or respiratory therapist
[01:16:27] <carny> https://twitter.com
[01:16:28] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter ( https://mobile.twitter.com )
[01:17:58] <carny> how come these things don't seem to show up in the leftist media?
[01:18:11] <carny> that sounds like important information
[01:18:50] <carny> you would think they should want to inform their readers/viewers that hcq will not in fact harm your heart
[01:19:23] <carny> it's almost as if there's something fishy going on
[01:19:56] <carny> but of course it's impossible to get nearly 10,000 people to keep a secret right?
[01:20:10] <carny> except in certain boroughs of new york but that doesn't count
[01:20:32] <carny> also every intelligence organization on the planet
[01:20:59] <c0lo> AzumaHazuki, never say never. After all, 2020 is the year carny here became a medical expert, that's a much larger step than jumping from pharmacy to EMT (grin)
[01:21:17] <AzumaHazuki> i refuse to. i'm too stressed as it is
[01:21:38] <AzumaHazuki> also did someone forget carny's Saphris jab again?
[01:23:04] <c0lo> We can't keep him on in straight jacket all the time, bed sores and all that.
[01:23:09] <AzumaHazuki> basic fucking logic here, carny: if the stuff worked, why didn't Schmuck a l'Orange get it?
[01:25:48] <c0lo> AzumaHazuki++ for "Schmuck a l'Orange" even if I wouldn't touch that dish.
[01:25:48] <Bender> karma - azumahazuki: 45
[01:37:23] <c0lo> not science, just one data point https://nypost.com
[01:37:24] <systemd> ^ 03Shocking before-and-after pics show toll the coronavirus took on fitness fanatic
[01:37:40] <carny> second hit in my google search https://www.health.com
[01:37:42] <systemd> ^ 03Some Frontline Workers Are Taking Hydroxychloroquine to Prevent Coronavirus
[01:38:00] <carny> third hit https://edition.cnn.com
[01:38:03] <systemd> ^ 03Trump said he took hydroxychloroquine to prevent coronavirus, but new study shows that doesn't work
[01:38:08] <carny> lol
[01:53:52] <carny> The study is supported through the COVID-19 Therapeutics Accelerator, an initiative launched by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, Wellcome and Mastercard, with support from an array of public and philanthropic donors, to speed up the response to the COVID-19 pandemic by identifying, assessing, developing and scaling up treatments.
[01:53:57] <carny> lol
[01:54:22] <carny> zero conflicts of interest there
[01:54:54] <AzumaHazuki> looks like carny's already made up what passes for his mind 9_9
[01:55:00] <carny> we all trust the emminent virologist dr. william gates
[01:55:02] <FatPhil> if there'sw one lesson we'll take from 2020 it's that the world needs some kind of organisation that can encourage and curate the sharing of reliable information on health.
[01:55:17] <AzumaHazuki> some kind of...worldwide...organization...for health?
[01:55:24] <carny> FatPhil: that won't happen until we fix the funding of science
[01:55:53] <carny> 100% of science funding in the usa is politicized under out existing system
[01:56:01] <FatPhil> AzumaHazuki: WOH! that's a great idea!
[01:56:04] <carny> s/out/our/
[01:56:05] <SedBot> <carny> 100% of science funding in the usa is politicized under our existing system
[01:56:26] <AzumaHazuki> sounds like you want to get money out of politics...you commie lib'rul terr'ist you
[01:56:29] <AzumaHazuki> why do you hate america?
[01:56:33] <carny> FatPhil: headed by a guy with a phd in marxist studies?
[01:56:41] <carny> great!
[01:57:04] <AzumaHazuki> NB: anyone who seriously uses Marxist, cuck, and similar in discussion as insults has zero credibility
[01:57:43] <AzumaHazuki> go back to jerkin' the gherkin over Alex Jones reruns
[01:57:59] <carny> Participants self-collected mid-turbinate swabs daily (days 1-14) for SARS-CoV-2 PCR testing. The primary outcome was PCR-confirmed, incident SARS-CoV-2 infection among persons SARS-CoV-2 negative at enrollment.
[01:58:16] <carny> funny how they don't mention how many cycles for that pcr testing
[01:58:29] <carny> not like it makes a difference or anything right?
[01:59:09] <AzumaHazuki> carny, it sounds like you have a potential career as an investigative journalist ahead of you
[01:59:11] <FatPhil> PCR without Ct is basically bullshit - what are they trying to hide? 42 is not the answet to this question.
[01:59:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> marxist ain't an insult, it's a descriptive term. like mass murderer.
[01:59:38] <AzumaHazuki> how about you spend some of this effort on actually uncovering problems and taking your findings to the higher-ups instead of pissing your life away on a chat room?
[01:59:42] <carny> actually 42 is apparently a common number in certain states
[01:59:57] <AzumaHazuki> meh, i need a shower. night shift begins soon
[02:00:08] <FatPhil> carny, yeah, I know - that shocked me
[02:00:52] <carny> i'm pretty sure i could test positive with 42 cycles after spending a year in the woods with no contact with other humans
[02:01:09] <carny> here's another funny thing about this
[02:01:22] <carny> they never tell you what their pcr test are testing for
[02:01:28] <FatPhil> yup, definitely more noise than signal.
[02:01:38] <carny> is it generalized coronavirus rna?
[02:01:57] <carny> or is it a unique sequence from a particular strain of cv wuhan?
[02:02:03] <carny> if so which strain?
[02:02:14] <carny> oh wait we're not allowed to know that
[02:02:21] <carny> it's proprietary
[02:03:30] <FatPhil> A FOAF and a FOAFOAF are both hospital workers, I should ask what the PCR procedure is here. Alas I don't see them too often.
[02:04:03] <carny> that's one of my points
[02:04:17] <FatPhil> having said that, .ee's so open I could probably just contact general hospital email.
[02:04:35] <carny> the procedures not only vary by location they change based on what the 'current recommendations' are
[02:04:52] <carny> which means you can get whatever data you want just by changing the number of cycles
[02:04:57] * chromas pioneers anal swap testing
[02:05:02] <FatPhil> my local GP is one of the approved test sites, I could ask there.
[02:05:06] <carny> oh look we have a million new cases in florida!
[02:05:13] <FatPhil> =boner chromas
[02:05:13] <systemd> chromas I've told you 1 times, put your boner away
[02:05:19] <carny> has nothing to do with going from 28 to 38 cycles
[02:06:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Poopy Salad Greens Still Plague Public Health - https://sylnt.us - little-something-extra
[02:06:47] <FatPhil> yeah, a result to a mystery test is barely any use at all.
[02:07:26] <carny> do you see now why i've been telling you for 10 months that none of the data is trustworthy?
[02:07:39] <carny> gigo data analytics
[02:08:27] <FatPhil> yes, however, you stats aren't that deviant from the rest of the world's, so there's no evidence you'e introducing any outragious skews.
[02:08:50] <FatPhil> the US is but one country
[02:09:03] <chromas> from the literal-shit-salad dept.
[02:09:22] <FatPhil> a loud and obnoxious one, but fortunately singular in number.
[02:09:26] <chromas> wrong, FatPhil
[02:09:30] <chromas> it's "evidences"
[02:10:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> wrong, chromas
[02:10:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's "evidencii"
[02:10:22] <chromas> wrong, TheMightyBuzzard
[02:10:40] <chromas> it's 5318008
[02:10:57] <FatPhil> =boner chromas
[02:10:57] <systemd> chromas I've told you 2 times, put your boner away
[02:11:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> can't argue with wisdom like that
[02:11:08] <chromas> =boner FatPhil
[02:11:08] <systemd> FatPhil I've told you 2 times, put your boner away
[02:11:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> =boner
[02:11:15] <systemd> put your boner away
[02:11:33] * TheMightyBuzzard steals a space from systemd
[02:11:54] <chromas> edge case, eh
[02:12:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> needed more bytraming
[02:12:04] <chromas> boners edging
[02:12:35] <carny> =boner ;drop table users;commit;
[02:12:35] <systemd> ;drop table users;commit; put your boner away
[02:13:15] <carny> https://twitter.com
[02:13:16] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter ( https://mobile.twitter.com )
[02:13:55] <chromas> nosql was harmed in the making of this test
[02:14:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> #sammich sql
[02:14:37] * MrPlow looks around but does not see sql
[02:14:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> #sammich
[02:14:51] * MrPlow whips up a #:;!.`~'",<>?()[]{}|\+=*&^%$#@ sammich for TheMightyBuzzard
[02:15:08] <AzumaHazuki> much better
[02:15:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> what, no mayo?
[02:15:40] * TheMightyBuzzard gives the sammich to Bender
[02:15:56] <chromas> =taco TheMightyBuzzard
[02:15:56] * systemd throws some tacos at TheMightyBuzzard
[02:16:44] * TheMightyBuzzard misses exec
[02:17:57] <carny> i love this twitter name https://twitter.com
[02:17:58] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter ( https://mobile.twitter.com )
[02:18:04] <chromas> #nick exec
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[02:18:52] -!- boru has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by boru`!~boru@cqbo-45-049-539-939.dynamic.mnet-online.de))]
[02:18:54] boru` is now known as boru
[02:19:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't think he has a #nick command
[02:20:46] <chromas> I'd change systemd but then I'd have to notify Bytram and all kinds of rigamaroll
[02:20:57] <chromas> that's rigga, not n
[02:22:00] -!- upstart [upstart!~systemd@pid1] has joined #soylent
[02:22:06] <chromas> &nick exec
[02:22:06] upstart is now known as exec
[02:22:12] <chromas> &set prefix ~
[02:22:12] <exec> k
[02:22:18] <chromas> ~g'day TheMightyBuzzard
[02:22:18] * exec hurriedly imagines a moldy tome of various oscillators with TheMightyBuzzard
[02:22:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> just put it in the changelog. everyone knows systemd ain't stable so if you use it you gotta read that before updating.
[02:23:05] exec is now known as SoyGuest30649
[02:23:09] <chromas> I think he greps the nick in his logs
[02:23:19] <chromas> ah, registered nick. of course
[02:23:32] <chromas> and I don't haz the credentials from cmn32480
[02:23:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> never got you the source?
[02:23:57] <chromas> no
[02:24:07] <chromas> Not sure how different it is from the github repo
[02:24:20] <chromas> but also he'd have the irc password and stuff
[02:24:43] <chromas> unless I pull rank and change exec's password >:)
[02:26:09] <chromas> Finally got my 3600 ram to run at 3600 by raising the voltage above what it's supposed to
[02:26:32] <chromas> but having weird errors like my linux password not working sometimes and even a reboot once while I wasn't looking
[02:27:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> mine's just 2300. works fine right out the box though.
[02:27:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> 3200
[02:28:38] <FatPhil> -gnight all
[02:28:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> =geroff FatPhil
[02:28:54] * systemd sardonically integrates some promises of gravy with FatPhil
[02:29:41] <AzumaHazuki> off we go. time to work on the frontlines with no healthcare again because this is America 9_9
[02:30:03] <chromas> Looks like you need to get your eyes checked
[02:30:15] <chromas> Here you go ✓
[02:30:19] <AzumaHazuki> yeah, rolling them that hard isn't good for them
[02:30:23] <chromas> That'll be $12,250.95
[02:31:07] <AzumaHazuki> that's not even not funny :/ i get what you were going for but there's some things too ridiculous to satirize
[02:31:32] <AzumaHazuki> well...these vitamins and obsessive hand sanitizer habits had better do it
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[02:31:47] <chromas> well here's a bigger check ✔
[02:31:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> she works at a hospital. they ain't gonna make her go without treatment.
[02:32:41] <chromas> She should study to be one of those nurses that does tiktok videos
[02:34:03] <chromas> My mom was a nurse. There's no end to the amount of back patting they can do :D
[02:34:05] <chromas> along with teachers
[02:35:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> well she's definitely a naughty nurse. just not in a fun way.
[02:39:16] <carny> has she mentioned that her hospital has furloughed staff to create an artificial 'overload' situation?
[02:39:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> no idea. i don't listen to her much.
[02:40:26] <Bytram> carny: not that I recall
[02:40:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> i know the mayo folks haven't. stepmom works for em. they got everyone working way, way more hours than is safe.
[02:40:48] <carny> you don't listen while you argue with her? ;]
[02:40:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> saves time
[02:41:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> stepmom's life-long hobby is complaining about work, so if it'd been a problem i'd have heard about it.
[02:42:08] <c0lo> https://www.ajc.com
[02:42:10] <SoyGuest30649> ^ 03Ga. virus rates likely a third higher than official tally, AJC analysis finds
[02:42:11] <systemd> ^ 03Ga. virus rates likely a third higher than official tally, AJC analysis finds
[02:42:20] <carny> ask what her staffing levels are like
[02:42:22] <chromas> oh whoops
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[02:42:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> pffft, run linux and you don't gotta wear a mask
[02:42:44] <Bytram> =g AJC
[02:42:45] <systemd> https://www.ajc.com - AJC.com: Atlanta News Now
[02:42:47] <chromas> "they got everyone working way, way more hours than is safe."
[02:42:51] <chromas> sounds like sop tho
[02:43:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> carny, i don't mean everyone still there, i mean they have everyone they can find working and they're all getting overtime.
[02:43:21] <Bytram> chromas: s/o/oa/2
[02:43:21] <SedBot> <Bytram> <chromas> "they got everyoane working way, way more hours than is safe."
[02:43:48] <carny> right but how many people were laid off first and how many people quit and weren't replaced?
[02:43:50] <Bytram> ????
[02:44:00] <Bytram> yes
[02:44:05] <carny> that's what hospitals are doing to pretend they are 'overloaded'
[02:44:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> ask people to quit?
[02:44:28] <carny> then the get to access state and federal funds for 'pandemic response and preparedness'
[02:44:37] <carny> no they overwork staff until they quit
[02:44:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause replacing em ain't an option at the moment. it's very much a labor market in healthcare.
[02:44:44] <carny> then don't replace them
[02:44:48] <carny> yes that's why
[02:45:19] <carny> nobody wants to work until their exhausted and immunocompromised with inadequate equipment and no extra pay
[02:45:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> which is why yon stepmom is able to drop any job that annoys her and go to work most anywhere she walks up and asks for a job at
[02:45:43] <carny> so they quit and the hospital gets to cry and complain to the money printer
[02:46:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> um, no. the hospitals legit can't get enough people there to do the job.
[02:46:23] <chromas> https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net
[02:46:37] <carny> yes for the reasons i just mentioned
[02:47:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, because demand for healthcare is greater than trained healthcare workers
[02:47:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> currently. that's not standard.
[02:47:59] <carny> despite all the gaslighting and propaganda the word is still getting around that a wu flu chest cold can still be fatal if you're working 90 hour weeks and inhaling virus laden aerosolized sputum the whole time
[02:48:24] <carny> so hcp's are quitting and getting out of healthcare
[02:48:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, has nothing to do with having the beds a lot more full than normal
[02:48:44] <carny> but they're not
[02:48:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> the hell they're not
[02:48:58] <carny> go visit
[02:49:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> dude, i get weekly updates whether i ask for them or not
[02:49:17] <carny> take a look at the icu floor that's full of patients
[02:49:51] <carny> then go up a flight of stairs and look at the floor that's shut down to conserve staff
[02:49:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> they're fucking full. and they're not allowing normal patients in some places at all because they're entirely full up with covid stuff.
[02:49:58] <carny> that's your 'full hospital'
[02:50:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> dude, you're on the crack.
[02:50:30] <carny> i guess so is every hcp i've spoken to
[02:50:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> apparently, because that is very much not the case from a single one that i know.
[02:51:10] <chromas> probably regional, like soda vs pop or whisky vs whiskey
[02:51:27] <carny> chromas: the state has a lot to do with it
[02:51:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, good idea. ima go put some whiskey in my soda.
[02:51:44] <carny> democrat control makes things much worse just going by the numbers
[02:51:51] * chromas puts whisky in tmb's pop
[02:52:04] <carny> so maybe tennessee is less insane
[02:52:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> he'll appreciate that
[02:52:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> WI. stepmom don't live here. i'm the one what moved out this way.
[02:52:33] <chromas> so would you say "pop-in-law"?
[02:52:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> nope, i ain't married
[02:53:18] <chromas> but you have a mother-in-law?
[02:53:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> not unless i go steal someone else's
[02:53:40] <chromas> oh stepmom. herp
[02:53:45] <Bytram> If your parents didn't have children, you probably won't either
[02:53:48] <chromas> well I seen the vidyas about that
[02:53:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> true
[02:53:56] <Bytram> :)
[02:54:26] <chromas> steppop
[02:54:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt magic carpet ride
[02:54:38] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- Magic Carpet Ride
[02:55:25] <c0lo> carny, you missed your opportunity, convicts took your job https://www.elpasotimes.com
[02:55:26] <systemd> ^ 03COVID-19 crisis: El Paso County seeks workers to move 200-plus bodies at morgue, trailers
[02:55:30] <Bytram> =yt momma told me not to come
[02:55:31] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Mama Told Me (Not To Come) (03:19; 1,564,265 views; 👍34,009 👎2,557)
[02:56:11] <chromas> I seen't that vidya too but it was spelled a little differnt
[02:56:19] * TheMightyBuzzard looked around, a lousy candle's all he found
[02:57:01] <Bytram> put some ... in your whiskey ???
[02:57:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, hey, i noticed it's bedtime before it's three hours past! ima go sleep.
[02:58:09] <Bytram> I have miles to go before I sleep (well, at least a couple stories, that is)
[02:58:16] <chromas> magic carpet ride is one of those songs I've heard before but never knew what it was
[03:00:53] <Bytram> =yt magic carpet ride
[03:00:54] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Magic Carpet Ride (04:32; 9,161,891 views; 👍125,283 👎12,031)
[03:03:09] <Runaway1956> OHHHH!!! I KNOW THAT ONE!!!! ROBERT FROSTLINBERG!!!!
[03:03:34] <Runaway1956> miles to go before I sleep, miles to go before I sleep.
[03:03:39] <carny> didn't somebody say the ohio governor was being impeached?
[03:03:57] <Bytram> =g Whose house this is I do not know
[03:03:58] <Runaway1956> Huh? Hadn't heard that one - Michigan maybe
[03:03:58] <systemd> https://www.poetryfoundation.org - Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening by Robert… | Poetry ...
[03:04:11] <carny> https://breaking911.com
[03:04:11] <systemd> ^ 03Articles Of Impeachment Filed Against Ohio Governor Mike Dewine - Breaking911
[03:04:16] <Bytram> =g Miles to go before I sleep
[03:04:17] <systemd> https://www.poetryfoundation.org - Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening by Robert… | Poetry ...
[03:04:25] <Runaway1956> I stopped my pony in a dull unpleasant place
[03:04:26] <chromas> 🎵 millions of 'meachments, 'peachments for me 🎵
[03:04:36] <Runaway1956> he nickered at me as if to say
[03:04:39] <carny> he's probably got plenty of chinese deposits in his bank records
[03:04:40] <Runaway1956> WTF are you doing?
[03:05:07] <c0lo> A short reading to put Runaway to sleep https://www.ktlo.com
[03:05:08] <carny> i hope he goes to the same prison as the republicans from georgia
[03:05:09] <systemd> ^ 03Arkansas reaches new high in COVID-19 hospitalizations
[03:05:37] <Runaway1956> Covids can't catch me on my pony in the dark
[03:05:42] <Bytram> they're... tripping?
[03:05:53] <c0lo> "About 27% of the state’s 9,144 hospital beds and 6% – or 70 – of the state’s 1,139 intensive care unit beds are available, according to the Department of Health."
[03:06:10] <chromas> doh is clearly in on it
[03:09:17] <Bytram> =yt chicka boom chicka boom don't ya just love it
[03:09:18] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Daddy Dewdrop - Chick-A-Boom (Don't Ya Jes' Love It) - 45 RPM (03:14; 823,386 views; 👍8,183 👎282)
[03:10:56] <Bytram> =yt I don't like spiders and snakes
[03:10:57] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Jim Stafford Spiders and Snakes (03:07; 2,310,161 views; 👍20,224 👎701)
[03:12:20] <chromas> Water cool your dog https://www.youtube.com
[03:12:22] <systemd> ^ 03Ice Cold Husky Bed From PC Water Cooling Parts- Sponsored by JLCPCB.
[03:13:49] <c0lo> Wet hot dog
[03:20:51] <Bytram> =yt love potion number 9
[03:20:53] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Love potion number 9, The Searchers (02:08; 22,020,202 views; 👍99,218 👎2,787)
[03:22:41] <Bytram> =yt oo ee oo ahh ahh
[03:22:42] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Oo Ee Oo Ahh Ahh Ting Tang Walla Walla Bing Bang Ouran HSHC! (01:10; 1,521 views; 👍8 👎0)
[03:23:20] <Bytram> =yt oo ee oo ahh ahh -HRrsExM4WPg
[03:23:22] <systemd> https://youtube.com - OO EE OO AH AH (03:15; 409,607 views; 👍1,303 👎166)
[03:25:59] * chromas wonders what song Bytram's actually looking for
[03:26:23] <Bytram> noting in particular -- just on an oldies kick
[03:30:26] <c0lo> https://www.shutupandtakemymoney.com
[03:34:49] <Runaway1956> Oh yeah, Carny - it's Grendel who is being impeached, I'm finding nothing on Ohio
[03:36:02] <Runaway1956> Oh - my 'pologies, DeWine IS being impeached
[03:36:43] <requerdanos> accused of failing to be an antimasker nutjob as i understand it
[03:37:07] <Runaway1956> Well, there's a bunch of feasances in the article
[03:38:11] <Runaway1956> malfeasance, misfeasance, antifeasance, unfeasance, and more
[03:41:14] <lld> pheasants
[03:41:50] <c0lo> Refusal to let covid concentration... places to run their business. And, the absolute top of the crime, turning non-popular in a few opinion polls.
[03:47:45] <Bytram> disfeasants
[03:47:57] <Bytram> datfeasants
[04:08:34] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[04:08:37] <systemd> ^ 03Making toilet paper moonshine
[04:18:11] <c0lo> I see you are in denial red, chromas.
[04:18:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - DeepMind’s AI is Claimed to Make Gigantic Leap in Solving Protein Structures - https://sylnt.us - Solved-for-suitably-small-value-of-"solved"
[05:41:31] <c0lo> Party like there's no tomorrow https://www.washingtonpost.com
[05:41:40] <systemd> ^ 03White House planning a packed season of holiday parties
[05:42:53] <chromas> It's fine; they're already all infected.
[05:43:27] <chromas> Soon, swamp will drain
[06:00:05] <Fnord666> Too bad the other end of that drain isn't laying over a cliff
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[09:42:48] <chromas> Turning off cpu spectre mitigations doesn't speed up muh renders. I am disappoint
[09:43:37] <chromas> But then neither does clocking up the ram and the internet said that's most important on ryzen 3 cpus
[09:44:38] * chromas blames takyon
[09:52:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> what sort of rendering we talking?
[09:54:00] * TheMightyBuzzard steps away to put coffee on
[10:00:11] <chromas> 3d
[10:00:42] <chromas> I think this motherboard sucks
[10:00:55] <chromas> Sometimes one of the nvme ssds doesn't show up
[10:00:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> it don't by chance use your graphics card, do it?
[10:01:13] <chromas> using cpu for rendering because it's faster :)
[10:01:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> is your nvme drive staying pegged while you're rendering?
[10:01:52] <chromas> no
[10:02:02] <chromas> oh I mean when I boot up, sometimes one seems to be missing
[10:02:29] <chromas> sometimes it'll show up in the efi config but not in linux
[10:02:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, storage is a much slower bottleneck is what i was getting at
[10:02:56] <chromas> ah
[10:03:02] <chromas> rendering's not fast enough for storage to matter
[10:03:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds like the cpu is just pegged and there ain't much you can do about it
[10:03:16] <chromas> all the good graphics cards got bought up over the weekend
[10:03:30] <chromas> except the ones that went from like $420 to over $1000
[10:04:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar. i'm sticking with my radeon rx 570 until it won't play games i wanna play anymore.
[10:04:05] <chromas> supply_and_demand--
[10:04:05] <Bender> karma - supply_and_demand: -1
[10:04:21] <chromas> I'm stuck on a gtx 960
[10:04:28] <chromas> for some reason it seems slower on this puter
[10:04:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause everything else is faster
[10:04:51] <chromas> might be an x compositor thing, but whenever there's a notification everything gets super laggy
[10:04:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh
[10:05:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> thas not normal for any modern gpu
[10:05:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> or even a ten year old one
[10:05:32] <chromas> yeah
[10:05:34] <chromas> nvidia--
[10:05:34] <Bender> karma - nvidia: -2
[10:05:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> proprietary or nouveau?
[10:06:06] <chromas> proprietary. nouveau's way worse for me
[10:06:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[10:06:47] <chromas> so I've been waiting for the amd x5700 prices to drop but they just won't
[10:07:05] <chromas> rx 5700 I guess
[10:07:23] <chromas> which are way better than this old hd 5770 I have sitting around. They should stop recycling numbers
[10:08:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah
[10:09:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> or, you know, just pick one naming scheme and not keep changing it every year or two so folks can't tell when they're buying a dated piece of crap.
[10:09:36] <chromas> Exactly
[10:09:58] <chromas> The 5318008, 5318008-2, 5318008-4, et cetera
[10:10:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> like i got this rx 570 a not even three years ago. there's no way they should be up to 5700 yet
[10:11:04] <chromas> I think all the 570s are still for sale; I could grab for like $150 I guess
[10:11:25] <chromas> Nobody wants them; they must be gingers
[10:11:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> shurg, they were the best dollar to performance card in my price range at the time.
[10:12:12] <chromas> hm, whatever happened to intel's supposed return to discrete gpus?
[10:12:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> beats me
[10:12:44] * chromas beats tmb
[10:12:50] <chromas> need some competition
[10:13:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> need more matrox
[10:13:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> maybe powervr and voodoo
[10:14:00] <chromas> :'(
[10:14:06] * chromas weeps for all the dead brands
[10:14:35] <chromas> Need the Chinese to start making awesome, patent-ignoring GPUs
[10:14:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> hey, i coulda gone really old school and said s3
[10:15:26] <chromas> I had an onboard SiS. The heatsink was crooked on both it and the replacement motherboard I got (both of which died)
[10:15:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> really just need to get rid of patents on anything with a obsolescence date of under ten years.
[10:17:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean if the patent is longer than the lifetime of the product, it's eternal for all practical purposes.
[10:20:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, try video encoding if you want to see if your ram tweak made any difference in performance. pick something and time ffmpeg its ass before n after.
[10:20:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> but really it sounds like you have some bum hardware in the mix
[10:20:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> like flaky not dead
[10:23:15] * TheMightyBuzzard got zero sleep last night
[10:23:36] <chromas> I tell you huwhat, this is the first time I've ever had a pc boot with the ram running at it's labeled speed
[10:24:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> came home after church work, drank leftover coffee from this morning. then drank a couple cokes. then put another pot of coffee on.
[10:24:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> really? mine always does.
[10:24:15] <chromas> I dropped it to 3200 or something now
[10:24:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> i make damned sure the board can handle it but i buy the fastest it will support
[10:25:01] <chromas> Maybe I should spend an extra buck on the ram
[10:25:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, never buy cheap ram. it's not worth the savings.
[10:25:55] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[10:25:58] <systemd> ^ 03Dual Monitors on an IBM 5150
[10:26:34] <chromas> at least the ram's name brand this time
[10:27:28] <chromas> You should make like a kid and go sleep in the church
[10:27:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> never used g-skill before but it was the best rated ram in the ddr4 3200 range without getting ridiculous.
[10:28:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> normally i go with corsair nowadays and before they got bought out i went with crucial
[10:28:24] <chromas> mine's corsair
[10:28:46] <chromas> newegg had 4000 for cheaper than the 3600 but it sold out before I got around to buying
[10:28:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> they always done well by me but they're not rated as high on ddr4 for some reason
[10:29:02] <chromas> or maybe it was fake chinee ram
[10:29:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> might be legit chinese ram. who the hell knows.
[10:29:44] <chromas> I noticed newegg and walmart both sell for other stores now like amazon does
[10:29:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> or maybe the guy who packed it was petting his cat at the same time
[10:30:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> makes sense. if i were newegg i definitely would. but i'd also lower my damned prices cause amazon almost always beats them on everything.
[10:31:04] <chromas> amazon has coupons now too
[10:31:11] <chromas> check this box to save $15
[10:31:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> walmart can just suck it though. they don't sell hard drive cables anymore, so they're on my shit list.
[10:32:04] <chromas> they only had about 2 SSDs last I checked, too
[10:32:54] <chromas> oh that's another thing. the irc bot doesn't compile noticeably faster
[10:32:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> had to drive 15 miles and brave the busiest street in jackson to get one at fucking best buy. so i got a couple spares too cause i hate going to best buy.
[10:33:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> from the ram or the new cpu?
[10:33:30] <chromas> it's a whole new pc
[10:33:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> right but were you testing ram speeds on it for comparison?
[10:33:58] <chromas> I should compile from a ramdisk and see what that does
[10:34:06] <chromas> oh I just meant compared to the old pc
[10:34:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh fuck, ryzen 3?
[10:34:40] <chromas> from a bulldozer cpu with spinny disks to a ryzen 3 with nvme ssd
[10:35:15] <chromas> still takes about 7 sec
[10:35:16] <chromas> s
[10:35:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> linux/gcc/llvm is still working on getting that all optimizey
[10:36:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> switch to gentoo and build march=native
[10:37:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> makes a real damned difference on mine vs stock binaries. sposed to make a much bigger difference come gcc11 though.
[10:37:59] <chromas> oh that reminded me I tried building linux-ck and it didn't go
[10:38:04] <chromas> bad checksum. fpos
[10:38:13] <chromas> or signature
[10:38:23] * chromas tries again
[10:38:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> how many cores/threads you sporting now?
[10:38:32] <chromas> 16/32
[10:38:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn, you went all out, eh?
[10:39:00] <chromas> I wasted extra buxx on that 3950x
[10:39:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> i went 12/24 cause four more cores was a big damn price bump
[10:40:08] <chromas> definitely the wiser move
[10:40:59] * chromas tries linux-zen
[10:41:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> mine's ryzen 2 though. burns through video encoding like nobody's business and gentoo updates still take a long time but most of the time is spending figuring out wtf i customized use flags on that is causing updates to fail not actually compiling
[10:41:36] <chromas> unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"
[10:41:56] <chromas> well shit, that's not pekbac this time
[10:42:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, beginning to sound like you got some shoddy ram. hard to tell that from a cpu with a bad line of cache though.
[10:43:12] <chromas> I did the BLender bmw scene. I think render time was about 12:41 or so on the old box. 1:24 on this one
[10:43:25] <FatPhil> turn on full craptimisations
[10:44:02] <chromas> I remember some packages would throw errors when using -j8 on the old box. Just re-building usually fixed it
[10:44:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> weird
[10:44:42] <chromas> I assume because c/c++ sucks ass and doesn't have a concept of modules, so parallel building doesn't always work out
[10:44:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> everything on my system that isn't a binary package from a BINHOST is built at -j24
[10:45:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> never had a problem with it
[10:45:27] <chromas> probably the bulldozer cpu
[10:45:43] <chromas> those were the really shitty ones
[10:45:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> you probably got one made by cat, and you know how finicky cats are
[10:46:14] <chromas> ew, it was probably full of drm then
[10:46:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> and mice
[10:46:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 'Love Hormone' Oxytocin Could be Used to Treat Cognitive Disorders Like Alzheimer's - https://sylnt.us - all-you-need-is-love
[10:48:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> shit, not worth it. when i enjoy someone's company i want it to have a better reason than because i'm high
[10:48:48] <chromas> because otherwise you'll forget
[10:49:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> nobody stays high forever but good cooking is eternal
[10:50:02] <chromas> I should've cum to soylent for pc building advice. favorite brands andform factors
[10:51:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't really build systems often enough anymore to be an expert. i just did an assload of research for every potential part candidate before i decided on one.
[10:52:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> i really like having a system that'll last me ten years, so i look for components with that sort of reliability and components quality.
[10:52:29] * chromas hunts for a video to transcode
[10:53:59] * TheMightyBuzzard tosses chromas a copy of First Time Anal Again for science
[10:55:04] <chromas> I have to go research how to use ffmpeg again. the only use I have in history is converting to mp3 for a friend because Vegas has shitty codec support
[10:55:27] <chromas> there we go
[10:55:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> like motherboards and vid cards, always find out about the caps
[10:55:42] <chromas> I forgot to time it
[10:55:57] <chromas> aren't they all solid state now?
[10:56:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's a pain in the ass to have a perfectly good piece of kit go out because of a shitty capacitor
[10:56:15] <chromas> I don't know what that means, but they look prettier
[10:57:09] <chromas> speed 12.3x
[10:57:17] <chromas> is that times video playback speed?
[10:57:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly?
[10:57:32] <chromas> (in the ffmpeg status)
[10:58:09] <chromas> don't feel any heat coming off cpu
[10:58:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> i use handbrakecli cause i got profiles built just how i like em
[10:58:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> and the gui is handy occasionally too
[10:58:43] <chromas> I thought profiling was generally frowned on
[10:58:59] <lld> ffmpeg encode speed
[10:59:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> i only profile the white pixels
[10:59:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> so it's fine
[10:59:24] <chromas> you know, white is the ultimate rainbow
[10:59:27] <lld> more than 1x means it can handle realtime live transcode
[10:59:35] <chromas> ah
[11:00:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm...
[11:01:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> speed's highly dependent on the source encoding, destination encoding, resolution, and a gerzillion other options. hard to tell if it's good or bad unless you have an apples to apples situation with the same file
[11:02:01] <chromas> So I just need to set up the old box and run the same command
[11:02:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod, cept for the number of cores to use
[11:02:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> scuse me, threads
[11:02:51] * TheMightyBuzzard is a bit punchy from lack of sleep
[11:04:47] <chromas> it's pretty rad to be able to rotate the view in blender with cycles rendering enabled in the viewport and still be able to see stuff
[11:05:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you wanna get rid of caching/disk read issues, cat video.mp4 >/dev/null before you time the encode
[11:05:13] <chromas> need to save my shekels and get a dual 64-core epyc setup
[11:05:44] <chromas> only $15,000 a piece
[11:06:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'll take four. on the same board.
[11:06:55] <chromas> I've only seen dual-socket boards :(
[11:07:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> staple a couple together
[11:07:09] <chromas> Maybe I wasn't looking hard enough
[11:07:10] <chromas> oh yeah
[11:08:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++ #smoke break
[11:08:06] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 796
[11:21:49] * TheMightyBuzzard changes his sig to #BLMAGA
[11:22:43] <chromas> Bureau of Land Management Anal Gaping Alliance
[11:23:04] <chromas> dang, 11 minutes just to download waterfox source
[11:23:12] <chromas> need to overclock my cable internet
[11:23:49] <requerdanos> My ISP has announced for us poor, non-fiber to the whatever neighborhoods that they are doing a new fiber/cable hybrid
[11:24:11] <requerdanos> fiber to the neighboorhood, then cable to the homes, twice as fast (600/20 instead of 300/20)
[11:24:25] <requerdanos> that sounds like what you mean, right?
[11:26:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm getting 712/32 out of a theoretical 1000/36 at the moment on cable
[11:26:14] <chromas> noooooooooo! "Error 2"
[11:26:45] <chromas> I can't get above 100mb/s because the ethernet port on the modem doesn't go faster
[11:26:58] <chromas> although some of those speed tests have shown 120mb/s
[11:28:15] <requerdanos> gee, that's over 71% of your rated speed.
[11:28:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> i can't get up above this speed cause i didn't do a great job of punching down the connectors on the cat6 i ran. first one did great but it got fried by lightning
[11:29:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> the media server in the other room gets like 90-95% of rated speed but it's plugged directly into the cable modem
[11:30:10] <chromas> your media server is your gateway?
[11:30:22] <requerdanos> makes sense. I haven't done any speed testing to see how fast my gigabit ethernet connections are because my internet is, again, only 300mbit
[11:30:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, it's just six feet from the modem, so i used a premade cable i had laying around.
[11:31:19] <chromas> hm, a billion warnings and more errors. I got it built the other day
[11:31:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> my desktop's 20 yards further, so i ran cat6 through the attic and punched it down into wall jacks.
[11:32:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> but the first cable i ran got fried by lightning. yes, the cable. and every network card that was plugged in at the time. and the modem.
[11:33:01] <requerdanos> My desktop is plugged into the cable modem. Everybody else has ethernet-slowly-over-powerline
[11:34:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> yall should get you some tennessee capitalist ecohippies like we got. they run a damned fine isp.
[11:35:10] <requerdanos> My ISP is "Atlantic Telephone Membership Corporation." Not bad, not best in the world, no quality/service complaints.
[11:36:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> 1tennessee here. best isp i ever had, including the one i ran back in the 90s.
[11:36:39] <requerdanos> well the one you ran in the 90s was 28.8k then 56k
[11:37:16] <chromas> Remember 55.8 vs 57.6?
[11:37:44] <requerdanos> actual vs. theoretical?
[11:37:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> no data caps, no snooping your shit, amazing actual:promised quality, and if something breaks it will get fixed very fast.
[11:37:58] <chromas> two competing standards for a bit
[11:37:59] <requerdanos> I remember 56k sucked and 56kflex sucked much more
[11:38:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> requerdanos, the reason it sucked was because it was dialup at my house but if i was working it was a T1
[11:39:19] <chromas> you could download a lot of gif89as real fast
[11:39:22] <requerdanos> yeah, at the time, a T1 was "fast"
[11:39:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> so we did a loooot of after hours gaming up there.
[11:40:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. you could even download VIDEOS of naked chicks instead of pictures.
[11:42:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> and if you weren't in a hurry, you could download games and play them the very same day
[11:43:11] <chromas> now you can't even do that on consoles
[11:43:21] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[11:43:46] <chromas> insert disc...updates...updates for updater...updates....
[11:44:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> part of why i go for the station wagon full of backup tapes theory of game installation. it's quicker to drive to gamestop, buy the disc, drive back, and install it from there.
[11:44:17] <requerdanos> That's a thing that I don't like about smart TVs.
[11:44:24] <chromas> oh shit I haven't even tried games in linux on this thing yet
[11:44:47] <chromas> except when the disc just launches a network installer
[11:45:00] <requerdanos> power goes out, regular TVs come back on, no problem; smart TV says "whoa! look at all these updates"
[11:45:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> nothin wrong with smart tvs if you don't let them connect to the network and never turn them off
[11:45:37] <requerdanos> well, but the TV comes over the network (free Pluto TV)
[11:45:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> whoever thought it was a great idea to make a tv that you had to wait on it to boot up needs their ass kicked
[11:46:01] <chromas> mine does that and it's not even smart
[11:46:11] <chromas> gotta wait like 20 seconds before picture
[11:46:40] <requerdanos> It's partly my fault. About computers fits and starts and wait times, I have said many times "If it were a TV we wouldn't put up with these wait times, it just needs to turn on and work"
[11:46:54] <requerdanos> ha ha joke's on me, now people go "oh, yeah, gotta let it update, shrug"
[11:46:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> we use the xbox for playing media on the tv. the tv ain't allowed on the network at all.
[11:47:23] <FatPhil> power-on to prompt on my zx81 was instantanious, and that was a 1.8MHz 8-bit processor that was actively bitbashing the screen image at the same time it was booting.
[11:47:30] <chromas> borderlands 1 enhanced doesn't start. fpos
[11:47:36] * chromas blames lennart
[11:47:38] <requerdanos> no consoles here, all games are played on computers connected to TVs. Everybody has his or her own 3-monitor setup.
[11:47:52] <FatPhil> zx spectrum was just under a second - more ram to check
[11:47:54] <requerdanos> I have two 40" and a 65", for example
[11:48:14] <lld> anbody make an ATSC broadcaster from a console? :)
[11:48:23] <lld> wireless display!
[11:48:58] <lld> illegal ATSC broadcasting
[11:49:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> console's handier for livingroom movie night or whatnot. or when you wanna lay on the couch and fall asleep watching something.
[11:49:09] <chromas> the best kind of atsc broadcasting
[11:50:15] * TheMightyBuzzard dons his eyepatch and unsheaths his cutlass
[11:50:55] <chromas> oh noes, this graphics card has the coil buzzing
[11:51:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> but no, i prefer running pirate radio stations to pirate tv stations
[11:51:17] <lld> pirate AM?
[11:51:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, lick it and it'll stop
[11:51:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> fm
[11:51:49] <chromas> B-b-b-b-buttpirate Radio, on 99.9FM
[11:51:57] <lld> 89-108 VHF band?
[11:52:06] <lld> yeah 99.9
[11:52:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep. mono though, stereo's a pain if you're building from base components with nothing more complex than a transistor in the mix.
[11:52:44] <lld> pirate AM is popular at 6.66MHz
[11:52:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> KHz
[11:53:00] <lld> 6660kHz
[11:53:19] <lld> 666kHz is medium wave
[11:53:27] <lld> it is easy to get found out
[11:54:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> not if you only broadcast a couple blocks out
[11:54:09] <lld> true
[11:54:41] <lld> 66.6kHz is long wave, transmission power efficiency is a concern
[11:55:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> and nobody around here has an am radio that will get anywhere near 6MHz. just the standard 535-1605KHz
[11:55:22] <lld> 6MHz is shortwave
[11:55:36] <lld> it goes all the way up to 30MHz
[11:55:53] <lld> its not as common because crystal stability is a concern
[11:55:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup, i'm the only remotely radio-geeky guy around here and i only like building them really.
[11:56:06] <lld> no issues with modern electronics though
[11:56:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> so if it doesn't play on a car radio, nobody hears it.
[11:56:21] <lld> pretty much
[11:56:29] <lld> a lot of clandestine broadcasts
[11:56:45] <lld> I hear the Japanese navy around 8.1MHz
[11:57:14] <lld> its just full of "wtf is this" surprises
[11:57:28] <lld> and the occasional chinese signal jamming
[11:57:45] <lld> BBC world service radio, and voice of america
[11:57:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> i like FM though. set something up around 89MHz and play punk tunes from the line out on my sound card.
[11:58:10] <c0lo> https://www.geekwire.com
[11:58:11] <systemd> ^ 03Microsoft patents tech to score meetings using body language, facial expressions, other data
[11:58:21] <lld> FM is a lot clearer and immune to noise spikes
[11:58:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. less issues with engine noise as well
[11:59:07] <lld> AM and shortwave has ungodly transmission range though
[11:59:27] <lld> so picking up foreign broadcasts is fairly effortless
[11:59:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, except my favorite country station's am version. they can barely get 15 miles unless the weather is right.
[12:00:05] <lld> yeah, low frequency radio is very weather dependent
[12:00:14] <lld> you should get it easily at night
[12:00:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, think they're wicked limited in their broadcast power by the FCC on account of overlap.
[12:00:49] <lld> its the sun that is causing disruptions in the ionosphere
[12:01:02] <c0lo> =submit https://phys.org
[12:01:10] <lld> I mean unintentional reflections that extend range
[12:01:11] <systemd> Submitting "New study shows how methan breaks through icy barriers on the sea floor"...
[12:01:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah
[12:01:24] <lld> works best at night
[12:01:33] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03New Study Shows How Methan Breaks Through Icy Barriers on the Sea Floor" (19 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[12:02:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup, familiar with "the skip" from my CB days many moons ago
[12:02:38] <lld> speaking of the moon, I tried to get into moon bounce
[12:02:58] <lld> too bad its a pain to get a VHF yagi these days
[12:03:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> me too but she wasn't in the mood
[12:03:10] <lld> hah
[12:03:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, i like making antennas. it's a crying shame i don't like doing anything much with them.
[12:04:11] <chromas> make 'n' sell
[12:04:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> said i liked it not that i was good at it
[12:04:36] <chromas> homemade, artisan craft yagis on your etsy store
[12:04:38] <requerdanos> I used to work for a 5000 watt AM station. Come evening you could hear it a LONG way off
[12:04:49] <lld> I want to make antennas, but I have no workspace
[12:05:05] <lld> requerdanos: try midnight :)
[12:05:05] <chromas> everything's fractal antennas now
[12:05:13] <lld> when the sun is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar away
[12:05:19] <requerdanos> Yeah, we had to be off the air at dusk
[12:05:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> i got a printer, i can put fractals on them
[12:05:39] <lld> are there even HF fractals?
[12:05:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> no idea
[12:05:53] <chromas> Get yourself a cheap usb tv tuner and baby you've got a (sdr) stew going
[12:06:09] <lld> I am using an SDR already yeah
[12:06:24] <lld> the USB tuners usually don't do HF
[12:06:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> most of mine are generally half-wave omni or wave guide
[12:06:34] <lld> USB TV Tuners
[12:07:07] <lld> they are usually fairly noisy too
[12:07:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> full wave for the pirate station but it goes up under the roof peak in the attic
[12:08:05] <lld> chromas: https://airspy.com the best HF SDR for buck so far
[12:08:06] <systemd> ^ 03Airspy HF+ Discovery - airspy.com
[12:08:15] <lld> fairly narrowband though
[12:08:39] <requerdanos> I think there are chips (1404?) that do fm stereo pretty inexpensively
[12:08:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, i gots to fuck off. my tired hurts too much to focus on my normal font.
[12:08:57] <lld> nighto tmb
[12:10:25] <chromas> $169? Good lord that's a lotta money! How about I give you 35 cents and you let me lick the hf?
[12:10:58] <lld> it IS an SDR
[12:11:00] <chromas> probably a lot better than the $15 radios though
[12:11:32] <lld> tested and worked all the way down to under 50kHz
[12:12:01] <lld> it was about $110 during black friday
[12:14:01] <lld> I guess you can listen in on RTTY too
[12:15:38] <chromas> Might grab one for xmas
[12:15:55] <chromas> Thanks for the pointer :)
[12:16:57] <lld> I'd love for more people to get into SDRs, but I understand its not an easy hobby to bust into unless you have disposable income
[12:17:19] <requerdanos> SDR = Simultaneous Democratic Republics?
[12:17:31] <lld> software defined radio
[12:17:35] <requerdanos> ah! nice
[12:17:40] <lld> but in this case, receiver only
[12:18:33] <lld> https://greatscottgadgets.com up to 6GHz
[12:18:34] <systemd> ^ 03HackRF One - Great Scott Gadgets
[12:18:47] <lld> it is hobby level electronics, so don't expect clock stability
[12:19:01] <requerdanos> I dunno, I have pretty high expectations the older I get
[12:19:20] <lld> requerdanos: if you have the money https://www.ettus.com
[12:19:22] <systemd> ^ 03USRP B205mini-i
[12:19:39] <lld> much wider bandwidth, over USB3
[12:19:56] <lld> these are lab quality, so $$$
[12:20:20] <requerdanos> I wouldn't know what I was trying to receive
[12:20:36] <requerdanos> other than number code stations and the loke
[12:20:42] <requerdanos> s/loke/like/
[12:20:42] <SedBot> <requerdanos> other than number code stations and the like
[12:20:56] <lld> GPS signals or what was it called
[12:21:19] <lld> unencrypted satellite phone signals
[12:21:22] <lld> and messages
[12:21:47] <requerdanos> probably some pretty interesting stuff from the airport and/or maritime traffic
[12:22:13] <lld> ah yes Iridium
[12:22:59] <lld> since these are narrowband signals, clock stability is far more important, so you'll need the USRP to decode
[12:23:35] <lld> anyway, I'm doing just HF/AM for now
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[15:18:37] <requerdanos> =submit https://weather.com
[15:18:41] <systemd> Submitting "Arecibo Observatory in Puerto Rico Collapses Weeks After Suffering Major Damage"...
[15:18:48] <FatPhil> Scottish independence ~ disconnected the spine (anagram)
[15:19:03] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Arecibo Observatory in Puerto Rico Collapses Weeks After Suffering Major Damage" (9 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[15:27:49] <FatPhil> Here's one for TheMightyBuzzard: Arecibo Observatory = covert boobies array
[16:28:18] <Bytram> requerdanos: thanks for the story sub!
[16:29:02] <Bytram> gtg; laters!
[16:52:49] <FatPhil> =submit https://news.cgtn.com
[16:52:51] <systemd> Submitting "China's Chang'e-5 successfully lands on moon to collect samples"...
[16:53:12] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03China's Chang'e-5 Successfully Lands on Moon to Collect Samples" (7 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[17:06:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - RISC-V hits 5 Ghz at 1 Watt - https://sylnt.us - Where's-my-space-heater?
[17:31:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's chang'e you can believe in
[18:07:05] <FatPhil> price of moonrocks to plummet! If you have any, short them now!
[18:13:13] <FatPhil> Fuck me, they're shitty at CGI, if this is the "Footage of the landing": https://news.cgtn.com
[19:18:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Arecibo Observatory in Puerto Rico Collapses Weeks after Suffering Major Damage - https://sylnt.us - makes-it-easier-to-rebuild
[19:22:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> well that's something i haven't seen before. Runaway1956 is the only one on the recipient side of the potential mod bombs list. 21 downmods in the past three days with nobody else getting even the three necessary to show up there with him.
[19:27:31] <c0lo> =submit https://theconversation.com
[19:27:33] <systemd> Submitting "We've mapped a million previously undiscovered galaxies beyond the Milky Way. Take the virtual tour here."...( 1 modified urls; http://theconversation.com )
[19:27:54] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08We've Mapped a Million Previously Undiscovered Galaxies Beyond the Milky Way. Take the Virtual Tour " (4 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[19:59:40] <Runaway1956> =submit https://futurism.com
[19:59:42] <systemd> Submitting "SpaceX will launch remote controlled racecars to lunar surface"...
[20:00:03] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03SpaceX Will Launch Remote Controlled Racecars to Lunar Surface" (16 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[20:00:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> well, yeah, because why wouldn't they? they need low power lasers and photo sensors too for extra fun.
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[20:30:01] <Runaway1956> Does anyone have a giant penis hiding in their backyards?
[20:30:14] <Runaway1956> https://www.theguardian.com
[20:30:16] <systemd> ^ 03German police investigate after giant phallic 'monument' vanishes
[20:39:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh, looks like Stripe has added a bunch of payment options
[20:45:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> apple pay and google pay are prolly the ones we'll add for sure
[20:48:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> may add ach bank transfers as well since we can
[20:48:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> less easy to deal with refunds/disputes though
[20:50:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, still in beta. pass.
[20:50:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh and fuck beta
[21:27:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Wuhan Files - https://sylnt.us
[22:07:52] <AzumaHazuki> night shift is kind of nice :)
[22:08:13] <AzumaHazuki> my body's still not used to it but it's quieter and a little more independent
[22:59:12] <c0lo> https://hamodia.com
[22:59:13] <systemd> ^ 03New Coronavirus Crosses Membranes Between Throat and Brain
[22:59:35] <c0lo> https://www.timesnownews.com
[22:59:36] <systemd> ^ 03More reason to wear a mask - Study says novel coronavirus may enter brain via nose
[23:00:08] <c0lo> Full text available: https://www.nature.com
[23:00:09] <systemd> ^ 03Olfactory transmucosal SARS-CoV-2 invasion as a port of central nervous system entry in individuals with COVID-19
[23:16:21] <c0lo> https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org
[23:16:22] <systemd> ^ 03Brain Fog, Fatigue, Depression: COVID-19 Long-Haulers Face Symptoms Months Later
[23:17:27] <c0lo> https://www.thejakartapost.com
[23:17:28] <systemd> ^ 03The COVID 'longhaulers' behind a global patient movement
[23:17:58] <c0lo> "Long Covids, unite"^
[23:37:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Wuhan Files [Updated] - https://sylnt.us - please-keep-things-civil || China's Chang'e-5 Successfully Lands on Moon to Collect Samples - https://sylnt.us