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[00:18:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Linus Torvalds Doubts Linux will Get Ported to Apple M1 Hardware - https://sylnt.us - what-would-Linus-do?
[00:26:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://scontent-atl3-2.xx.fbcdn.net
[00:31:10] <carny> https://twtter.com
[00:41:06] <carny> this is a bit late but may be useful for other occasions https://twitter.com
[00:41:08] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter ( https://mobile.twitter.com )
[00:41:26] <carny> oops
[00:41:32] <carny> https://twitter.com
[00:41:33] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter ( https://mobile.twitter.com )
[01:00:59] <c0lo> Oh, those lawyers (grin) https://www.wgrz.com
[01:01:00] <systemd> ^ 03Report: Orchard Park gym will not reopen Monday, cites 'pause'
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[01:10:19] <c0lo> Ooops, Mitch thinks of his senators as sheeple to be told what to do! (grin) https://www.axios.com
[01:10:20] <systemd> ^ 03McConnell temporarily halts in-person lunches for GOP caucus
[01:12:21] <AzumaHazuki> why does he hate freedom and liberty?
[01:12:37] <AzumaHazuki> the virus is a democrat hoax. we all know this. now that the election is over no one's talking about it
[01:16:40] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki-- troll
[01:16:40] <Bender> karma - azumahazuki: 44
[01:17:00] <AzumaHazuki> ...really?
[01:17:08] <AzumaHazuki> Bytram-- oversensitive jackass
[01:17:08] <Bender> karma - bytram: 143
[01:17:31] <AzumaHazuki> sarcasm. learn it, love it, live it
[01:17:31] <Bytram> quotr: "the virus is a democrat hoax"
[01:17:48] <Bytram> s/r/e/
[01:17:48] <SedBot> <Bytram> quote: "the virus is a democrat hoax"
[01:18:00] <AzumaHazuki> use your sweetbreads: based on our past discussion, does that look like something i would say in earnest?
[01:18:20] <Bytram> =g sweetbreads:
[01:18:21] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Sweetbread - Wikipedia
[01:19:58] <Bytram> no, but it (1) provides plausible deniability (2) could well entice a certain someone to... engage, and (3) what was the point/value of making that statement?
[01:21:42] <c0lo> Evacuated from WH before he gets to discuss efforts to overturn president-elect Joe Biden’s victory https://www.inquirer.com
[01:21:43] <systemd> ^ 03Pa. State Sen. Doug Mastriano tests positive for COVID-19 after meeting Republicans at White House
[01:23:00] <AzumaHazuki> regarding #2, Runaway needs no encouragement from me to start frothing at the mouth and wharrgarbling conspiracy theories. he's obsessed. i see what the backscroll looks like
[01:23:12] <AzumaHazuki> as to 3), it's bitter dark humor
[01:23:24] <AzumaHazuki> please remember i'm a hospital worker. with no insurance until january.
[01:23:47] * Bytram rummages around for some ... sweetbread?
[01:23:51] <Bytram> ;)
[01:25:08] <halibut> ``Sweetbread'' -- just another example of how offal English can be. That was not what I expected ``sweetbread'' to mean (although, in truth, I have heard about that before).
[01:25:10] <Bytram> yes, I am aware. Better to "vent" here than to "unload" on a patient
[01:25:34] <Bytram> TIL, too!
[01:27:26] <Bytram> ugh. due to have a couple inches of rain over the next 48 hours. :/
[01:28:38] <Bytram> If it were colder, that would be like two feet of snow.
[01:29:18] <Bytram> gusts nearing 50 mph, too.
[01:29:44] <Bytram> biab -- dishes
[01:29:52] <halibut> If it were drier, that would be zero feet of snow.
[01:30:40] <halibut> Is it near the freezing point of water?
[01:31:29] <halibut> I don't care for freezing. Makes it hard to swim. At least us cold-blooded creatures are a little better at thawing back out afterwards.
[01:32:33] <chromas> What kind of internets do fish have access to?
[01:32:49] <Bytram> wet?
[01:33:00] <c0lo> Free word association anyone? How about "bus barr"?
[01:33:17] <c0lo> https://www.newsweek.com
[01:33:18] <systemd> ^ 03Trump suggests FBI and Justice Department led by his own appointees may be "involved" with rigging election against him
[01:33:20] <halibut> I grab Wi-Fi from passing cruise ships. I'm pirating their signal on the high seas!
[01:33:36] <Bytram> Could I have "bus barr" for $100, Alex?
[01:33:55] <AzumaHazuki> trump is falling apart in real time
[01:33:58] <Bytram> biab
[01:34:16] <AzumaHazuki> poor bastard. i'd almost feel sorry for him except then i remember he has 200,000 or so unnecessary covid deaths on his head
[01:34:45] <chromas> =blame
[01:34:45] * systemd points at Bytram
[01:34:53] <chromas> oh I need to update that to point at trump
[01:38:06] <c0lo> Maybe this is an explanation? https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au
[01:38:07] <systemd> ^ 03Trump's Often-Touted 'Coronavirus Drug' Is Linked To Psychiatric Disorders ( https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au )
[01:38:43] <c0lo> =doi https://www.ema.europa.eu
[01:38:44] <systemd> <p><b>Journal Reference</b>:<br/><b>Meeting highlights from the Pharmacovigilance Risk Assessment Committee (PRAC) 23-26 November 2020 - European Medicines Agency</b>, <cite></cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/meeting-highlights-pharmacovigilance-risk-assessment-committee-prac-23-26-november-2020">https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/meeting-highlights-pharmacovigilance-risk-assessment-committee-prac-23-26-november-2020</a>)</p>
[01:57:28] <c0lo> https://www.pewresearch.org
[01:57:57] <c0lo> From https://www.pewresearch.org
[01:57:58] <systemd> ^ 03Sharp Divisions on Vote Counts, as Biden Gets High Marks for His Post-Election Conduct
[02:06:56] <c0lo> https://nypost.com
[02:06:57] <systemd> ^ 03Man arrested for refusing to wear mask on Delta flight from Salt Lake City
[02:07:20] <c0lo> ^^^"Only when all the other passengers got up and walked out did he finally leave the plane, police said."
[02:17:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - U.S. Army Looks to Use Silent Technology for Next-Generation Aircraft - https://sylnt.us - will-they-still-call-them-choppers?
[02:18:58] <AzumaHazuki> looks like i won't see the sun for a while...off to work
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[02:25:23] <c0lo> https://www.youtube.com
[02:25:25] <systemd> ^ 03Artist Creates Chilling Visualization of COVID-19 Death Toll
[02:43:08] <Bytram> =g gnow
[02:43:09] <systemd> https://www.dictionary.com - Gnow | Definition of Gnow at Dictionary.com
[02:43:28] <Bytram> it's a word? what do you gnow?
[02:44:24] <Bytram> noun
[02:44:24] <Bytram> Western Australian another name for mallee fowl
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[03:12:06] <Runaway1956> =yt what a day for a daydream
[03:12:08] <systemd> https://youtube.com - (What a day for a) Daydream - Bobby Darin (02:32; 127,768 views; 👍867 👎40)
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[04:27:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tesla Model X Gets Hacked Through New Relay Attack, Tesla Says it is Pushing a Patch - https://sylnt.us - frobbed-fobs
[04:29:33] <c0lo> Tesla better start pushing cars instead of Windows-on-wheels.
[04:29:55] <lld> Patch Tuesday for cars
[06:38:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Pesticide Deadly to Bees Now Easily Detected in Honey - https://sylnt.us - bee-good
[06:44:18] <chromas> hunny-bee-gone
[06:50:23] <c0lo> Have a nice start of the week https://twitter.com
[06:50:25] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter ( https://mobile.twitter.com )
[08:23:37] <FatPhil> Doctors like that do more harm than good, IMHO.
[08:24:58] <FatPhil> Why's he promising the 98% who won't need to be intubated that he'll intubate them, is he some kind of psycho?
[08:25:39] <FatPhil> Have people suddenly lost the ability to process the concept of probability and risk, everything now has to be binary?
[08:27:48] <FatPhil> I blame Apple and their one-button mouse. It's created a generation with a one-button brain.
[08:47:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Laser Fusion Reactor Approaches ‘Burning Plasma’ Milestone - https://sylnt.us - burning-for-you
[10:57:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 6,000 Years of Arrows Emerge From Melting Norwegian Ice Patch - https://sylnt.us - pointy-bits
[11:28:17] <c0lo> FatPhil, lemme give you the undertones: would you wish someone to have their parents/grandparents see those as their last things, even if those grand/parents are among only those 2%?
[11:29:53] <c0lo> Or do you deny that 2% of them will see those "more harmful" images?
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[11:41:38] <FatPhil> c0lo: which of those things have I actually said?
[11:42:35] <c0lo> FatPhil, where does he say that he'll intubate everybody?
[11:42:46] <FatPhil> Your second attempt to put words in my mouth is particularly bizarre given that it's the exact opposite of what I said.
[11:43:00] <FatPhil> When he addresses the whole group.
[11:44:46] <FatPhil> "This is what you will see at the end of your life if we don't start wearing masks"
[11:45:34] <FatPhil> Which bit of that is ambiguous? I understant English may not be your first language, but that is *just plain false*. And as he knows that not everyone will need to be intubated, that makes it a downright *lie*.
[11:46:22] <FatPhil> Doctors are by design supposed to be trustworthy, lying doctors do the profession's reputation damage.
[11:49:46] <c0lo> Ok, I chose to interpret those as "
[11:50:30] <FatPhil> This'll be good...
[11:50:33] <c0lo> "If you want to take you chances of seeing those images as the last things, don't wear a mask"
[11:51:24] <c0lo> Is anything else errroneous?
[11:51:35] <FatPhil> BAsically all of it
[11:52:11] <c0lo> And acidically?
[11:52:23] <FatPhil> There's a way of saying "if you want to take your chances ...", and that's by saying the words "if you want to take your chances ...", which he *did not do*.
[11:54:16] <FatPhil> "This will be what you see, I promise you" - don't promise, make a bet with me, put some real skin in the game.
[11:55:31] <c0lo> Ok, I conceded that was an error. If you put it aside, is there anything else erroneous?
[11:55:38] <FatPhil> "This will be what you mother, or your father or your children when they get covid disease will see at the end of their life"
[11:56:19] <FatPhil> OK, youve increased the odds in your favour with that "or", but still it's about 96% false.
[11:57:07] <FatPhil> And that's *THE WHOLE FUCKING VIDEO*.
[11:59:02] <FatPhil> This is bad science communication, it distorts the real message, which is actually an important message. Which is why it's important to not miscommunicate it.
[11:59:28] <c0lo> It wasn't meant as scientific communication, FatPhill.
[11:59:47] <c0lo> Not to be peer-revviewed.
[11:59:51] <FatPhil> That's why he didn't post it with his medical credentials
[12:00:02] <FatPhil> And why he didn't wear a white labsuit
[12:00:24] <FatPhil> What was it then - fashion advice?
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[12:02:08] <c0lo> A message about the last images someone will see because of Covid.
[12:02:09] <FatPhil> So, if you're saying that he didn't intend it to be analysed by his medical peers, are you implying that he knows that it wouldn't pass such scrutiny?
[12:02:30] <FatPhil> not *will*, you fucknut, *could*.
[12:02:38] <FatPhil> you're making the same mistake as him
[12:02:53] <c0lo> (returning the favor of putting words in my mouth, I see :) )
[12:03:41] <FatPhil> Nope, a genuine question, because I have a response for either a 'yes' or a 'no', and I want to know which one to hit you with.
[12:04:28] <c0lo> (Manners, you fucking beer addict - that *could* is actually *had* for 270K Americans)
[12:04:35] <c0lo> https://twitter.com
[12:04:36] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter ( https://mobile.twitter.com )
[12:04:41] <FatPhil> And if you look at the wording of my question, it's a completely different construction from how you worded yours
[12:05:18] <FatPhil> So, which is it - yes or no?
[12:07:17] <FatPhil> Why are you introducing irrelevancies - are you trying to see how many logical fallacies you can do in 15 minutes?
[12:07:35] <c0lo> I'm implying that he didn't even think that FatPhil will keep him to the highest standard of scientific communication for a tweet.
[12:08:02] <FatPhil> Which is why I'm accusing him of being a poor science communicator.
[12:08:14] <FatPhil> He's lying, you
[12:08:23] <FatPhil> 've already conceded that fact.
[12:08:32] <c0lo> Oh, gosh. I don't intend to communicate science on IRC.
[12:08:54] <c0lo> Whatever made you think I'm so inclined?
[12:09:25] <FatPhil> Are you unable to tell the difference between yourself, and some over-emotional US doctor?
[12:10:10] <c0lo> ??? Rephrase please, I don;t see the relevance.
[12:10:16] <FatPhil> I'll give you (that's you) a clue - when I'm refering to him (that's not you), I'll use the word "him", and when I'm referring to you (that's you), I'll use the word "you".
[12:14:44] <c0lo> If you want me to take you in a logical sense, I suggest you to start defining the premises using ∃ and ∀ and well defined genum proximum. Until then, I'll consider this an informal discussion. After that, I'm not gonna offer you any warranty I'll treat it as a scientific communication either.
[12:15:49] <FatPhil> How about when I say "I'm accusing him of being a poor science communicator", you don't respond with utter drivel like "I don't intend to communicate science"?
[12:19:40] <c0lo> Ok, you can stop saying "I'm accusing him of being a poor science communicator", because in no relation with that or anything else my "I don't intend to communicate science on IRC" holds true, drivel or not.
[12:23:13] <FatPhil> Now your rambling, you seem to even be confusing yourself.
[12:23:42] <FatPhil> s/your/you're/
[12:23:42] <SedBot> <FatPhil> Now you're rambling, you seem to even be confusing yourself.
[12:29:50] <c0lo> Let me make the things clear by repeating something that may have escaped you keen sense of sight; "I'm implying that he didn't even think that FatPhil will keep him to the highest standard of scientific communication for a tweet."
[12:32:21] <c0lo> And my "I don't intend to communicate science on IRC." should be interpreted "I know for sure I have no intention to do that either"
[12:34:14] <c0lo> And with those two things being said (or written), I'll declare my total lost of interest in the discussions on that topic.
[12:34:31] <c0lo> r/lost/loss/
[12:34:44] <c0lo> (whatevs)
[12:35:12] <FatPhil> He broadcast his message in a worldwide medium, he was not in charge of who received it.
[12:35:31] <FatPhil> Good. My fist was getting tired of you repeatedly running onto it.
[12:36:04] <c0lo> https://www.abc.net.au
[12:36:05] <systemd> ^ 03Japan's aged care facilities remain locked down amid a COVID-19 third wave, and now there are fears residents may develop dementia - ABC News
[12:36:36] <requerdanos> Darn. I missed a great science discussion.
[13:00:07] <c0lo> (warning: not science, just one data point) https://twitter.com
[13:00:08] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter ( https://mobile.twitter.com )
[13:02:04] <requerdanos> Not having seen the yer-gonna-be-intubated video, I don't know its focus, but it seems from what I've read to be saying "you will|could suffer this fate"
[13:02:59] <requerdanos> which is imo not the point; the point is you will statistically probably survive if you don't take precautions and get covid, but you could easily then transfer it to someone high risk who will die a horrible death from it.
[13:04:04] <c0lo> "Not having seen the yer-gonna-be-intubated video, I don't know its focus" are you asking for that link, requerdanos?
[13:04:28] <requerdanos> Not unless just want to post it for completeness.
[13:05:30] * chromas presses tab to complete
[13:05:41] <requerdanos> I am just thinking a good message is "Take precautions that you do not cause a horrible death in someone"
[13:06:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SLS: Nasa 'Megarocket' Assembly Begins in Florida - https://sylnt.us - stacking-exercise
[13:09:27] <requerdanos> And hey, with the high number of asymptomatic infections, You May Already Be A Winner&tm;
[13:12:49] <chromas> ol' FatPhil handin' out logical smakes
[13:13:04] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[13:13:07] <systemd> ^ 03When the job is just too large for 1 person - Big Delivery
[13:15:14] <c0lo> requerdanos, I know I'm not, I'm among the few millions on this planet at hundreds of km of the nearest Covid infection. For a month already.
[13:16:31] <requerdanos> As opposed to my location; to wit, I am in North Carolina, which is a kind of hot spot as I understand it.
[13:17:15] <chromas> Have you tested the wallabies?
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[13:21:21] <c0lo> chromas, no, but I have enough trust in Ardern
[13:21:24] <c0lo> https://www.theguardian.com
[13:21:25] <systemd> ^ 03Bledisloe Cup: Ardern relaxes Covid rules for All Blacks-Wallabies clash
[13:21:59] <requerdanos> AzumaHazuki, should people take covid precautions (isolation, masks), and if so, to avoid being a spreader, or to avoid personally getting covid?
[13:22:20] <AzumaHazuki> both, they go hand in hand
[13:22:20] <requerdanos> um, I meant, hi, welcome
[13:23:32] <requerdanos> ok. makes sense.
[13:23:33] <FatPhil> don
[13:23:46] <FatPhil> 't touch each other's hands!
[13:23:53] <FatPhil> nothing may go hand in hand any more!
[13:24:03] <requerdanos> don't touch each other's eyes, that's a big one.
[13:24:47] <FatPhil> eye-to-eye particularly bad
[13:24:57] <requerdanos> for sure that is true
[13:26:33] <c0lo> https://abcnews.go.com - just use them in a pocket of your fabric face mask.
[13:26:34] <systemd> ^ 03From scarves to HEPA filters, what kind of face covering is your best bet against coronavirus?
[13:39:13] <chromas> put a hepa filter in your cloth mask so 99% of your breath blows up into your eyes instead of just 95%
[13:43:00] <c0lo> If you keep your mask loose around your face and tight only on the rims of ir, the breathable surface increases enough to be just the small annoyance of warmth/humid when you exhale.
[13:43:19] <chromas> hehe
[13:43:24] <chromas> have you seen the masks people are using?
[13:44:01] <c0lo> True, my sister spent 2 days on her sewing machine finding a way to achieve it.
[13:44:15] <chromas> what's her etsy page?
[13:45:29] <c0lo> She hated it, she's as anti-social media as me. No Etsy or instagram page.
[13:46:45] <c0lo> But you should have enough time in self-isolation to repeat her journey of discovery. It's fun for some values of fun my sister is not keen of.
[14:09:17] <FatPhil> now we've had the first settling snow of the year, the warmth as I exhale's not unwelcome.
[14:13:01] <c0lo> resembles this one in shape, but she manged to do that structure only using pleats on the side (only two pleats per side), a bit flatter in front and no sewn ridge perforating the fabric in front of the nose/mouth https://youtu.be
[14:13:03] <systemd> ^ 03A Doctor Explains How to Make the Safest Face Mask ( https://www.youtube.com )
[14:18:06] <c0lo> Thickish polyester outside, flannelette inside, whatever you want in between - HEPA works. Will make you like wearing a sorta panda bear muzzle, but it's breathable due to a higher exchange surface.
[14:24:50] <c0lo> And, of course, it's a bit on the rigid side.
[14:28:14] <lld> but can you afford it :)
[14:28:33] <requerdanos> ah, can you afford not to
[14:28:56] <lld> sure, continue to use cheaper fake masks as usual
[14:29:14] <lld> (masks with actual filtering are actually hard to come by)
[14:29:37] <requerdanos> Yeah I've seen people try to get coffee filters into the center part of their masks, etc.
[14:30:13] <requerdanos> As I understand the point of the masks, it is to reduce the number of viruses you take in, and reduce the number of viruses you breathe on other people.
[14:30:38] <lld> its just a piece of plastic in these masks
[14:30:46] <requerdanos> I wonder which is the more important bit, that there's a reduction, or the amount of the reduction
[14:30:48] <lld> there aren't even any air filters
[14:30:54] <gozar> Almost. They are mainly to stop you from spewing viruses through talking, laughing, and coughing.
[14:31:28] <requerdanos> is the no-spew effect not a reduction in viruses breathed on other people? Maybe I am saying it poorly.
[14:31:59] <requerdanos> Maybe I am just an uninformed idiot, also, can't discount that possibility
[14:32:01] <gozar> Nah, you're saying it fine.
[14:32:14] <gozar> Masks barely protect the wearer.
[14:32:52] <gozar> My main goal is to just not interact with people. :-)
[14:33:10] <requerdanos> yeah, that's an important piece of the total puzzle
[14:39:11] <lld> get those transparent face shield things
[14:39:39] <gozar> Those barely do anything.
[14:39:55] <lld> it stops spits
[14:39:57] <gozar> Combine them with a good mask though, and you're better off.
[14:40:05] <lld> so, double masks :)
[14:40:10] <gozar> Yeah.
[14:40:17] <gozar> :-)
[14:40:32] <chromas> require face shields for all dining
[14:40:44] <lld> to make sure your soup doesn't spill
[14:41:08] <chromas> Don't want spittle shooting over to the next table
[14:41:15] <gozar> Here's how much face shields on top of masks can help: https://jamanetwork.com
[14:41:17] <systemd> ^ 03SARS-CoV-2 Infection Before and After Face Shields
[14:43:20] <chromas> oh cool, so they still got infections but the masks kept them from getting symptoms :)
[14:44:45] <chromas> "persons" maximum grammers
[14:45:39] <lld> I hear that you'll still test positive for covid even after you recover
[14:45:50] <lld> but not infectious
[14:45:57] <lld> not sure how that works
[14:46:04] <chromas> Makes sense if they're testing for antibodies
[14:47:03] <lld> patients are apparently just given cold or cough medicine here
[14:47:10] <lld> assuming they don't get worst
[14:47:20] <lld> most get out just fine after 10 days or so
[14:47:40] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[14:47:41] <systemd> ^ 03[503] Dom "System D" Euro Profile Cylinder Picked and Gutted
[14:48:07] <chromas> Lennart strikes again
[14:53:50] <c0lo> You can combine both mask/shiels into one piece. It's a technology known since 16th century, really.
[14:54:24] <c0lo> s/sheils/shield/
[14:54:37] <c0lo> (whateves)
[14:55:36] <AzumaHazuki> christ. i can't get healthcare till january through the employer. if i get sick in the next month it's over
[14:55:39] <c0lo> just use modern materials https://designyoutrust.com
[14:55:40] <systemd> ^ 03An Authentic 16th Century Plague Doctor Mask Preserved And On Display At The German Museum Of Medical History
[14:56:02] <AzumaHazuki> this really may be the end for me
[14:56:39] <c0lo> Don't panic, 'Zumi.
[15:09:20] <AzumaHazuki> not panicking yet...just hoping like hell my vitamin habit and obsessive hand sanitizer use will save me
[15:12:04] <AzumaHazuki> helps that i'm young(ish) and on the low side of normal weight too
[15:15:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - She Could Have Stopped at Saving Her Husband -- Instead They Joined a 5-Way Kidney Swap - https://sylnt.us
[15:19:12] <chromas> from the one-weird-trick dept.
[15:42:14] -!- AzumaHazuki has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[15:49:40] <c0lo> https://apnews.com
[15:49:40] <systemd> ^ 03Beware of COVID-19 scams as vaccine approaches FDA approval
[16:58:42] <FatPhil> Blame India! https://www.theguardian.com
[16:58:42] <systemd> ^ 03Page Not Found | The Guardian
[16:58:45] <FatPhil> change-covid-origin-story
[16:59:04] <FatPhil> https://www.theguardian.com
[16:59:05] <systemd> ^ 03A year after Wuhan alarm, China seeks to change Covid origin story
[17:00:04] <carny> they should just admit that their bsl-4 was funded by the usnih
[17:00:18] <carny> throw fauci and his friends under the bus
[17:10:48] <FatPhil> i'm sure they're still benefitting from some connections deep within US academia/reseaerch labs. They might not want to put that at risk. Heck, they might want more funding!
[17:12:37] <carny> thowing the traitors under the bus won't cause their apts to be removed from us networks
[17:12:55] <carny> if they haven't been purge by now nobody's ever going to
[17:13:47] <carny> and it would be an excellent distraction from the rest of the shenanigans going on over here
[17:14:01] <FatPhil> Drain the paddyfields!
[17:15:23] <requerdanos> bsl 4 is serious. You can work on things like live ebola in bsl 4.
[17:15:45] <carny> you can in a proper bsl-4 yes
[17:16:01] <carny> but the chinese one in wuhan is known to be a shit show
[17:16:59] <carny> partly that's because they rely more on stealing emails from american institutions than they do sending smart people over here to take tours
[17:17:45] <carny> but mostly it's because workers in communist slave states tend to be very sloppy and apathetic
[17:17:56] <lld> slovenly socialists
[17:18:05] <chromas> They can't send enough of their smart people over anymore because of university and hiring quotas
[17:18:11] <carny> the competent ones tend to leave for bette countries
[17:18:26] <lld> turns out you can be more profitable with socialist slave labor :)
[17:18:36] <carny> chromas: have those taken a solid hold yet?
[17:19:13] <chromas> I'm thinking of the guy who got fired from Google awhile back for speaking up about turning away Asiany peeps
[17:20:25] <chromas> https://www.cnet.com
[17:20:26] <systemd> ^ 03Ex-recruiter's lawsuit accuses Google of racial bias in hiring
[17:20:49] <chromas> hm, I thought the guy himself was Chinese but that's an awfully white name
[17:21:01] <lld> maybe a hapa?
[17:21:20] <carny> there was a youtuber who made some videos from the parking lot about that situation too
[17:21:25] <carny> i think he was asian
[17:21:28] <chromas> is that like an Asian mulatto?
[17:21:37] <lld> yes
[17:21:49] <lld> hapa is specifically half japanese
[17:22:01] <lld> chinese would just be called ABC
[17:24:48] <chromas> African American Friday and Cyber Monday have the best deals. All the good graphics cards are sold out (at their regular prices) except for the scalper editions for double the price.
[17:25:27] <lld> just wait for the next protest
[17:25:28] <carny> anyone know of a way to extract the video from this site?
[17:25:31] <carny> https://www.newsmaxtv.com
[17:25:33] <systemd> ^ 03Michelle Malkin Sovereign Nation (11/21/20)
[17:26:02] <lld> https://babylonbee.com
[17:26:02] <systemd> ^ 03Pro Tip: Skip Out On Black Friday Deals And Just Hold Out For The Next Peaceful Protest
[17:26:08] <carny> youtube-dl just returns html files when it tries
[17:26:25] <lld> carny: probably need to check out the source code
[17:26:33] <carny> lld: video cards are free when the mob of looters comes to best buy?
[17:26:47] <lld> yes, if you join the mob
[17:27:01] <carny> i looked at it but the obvious video links return garbage too
[17:27:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Pluton: The New Trusted Platform Module - https://sylnt.us - ownership-as-a-service
[17:29:59] <requerdanos> an "Awfully white name?" I know chinese people legit named things like "David Smith"
[17:38:48] <requerdanos> I wonder if companies sending me e-mails with subjects like "ZOMG!!11! Black Friday LAST CHANCE!!!" and follow up with "ZOMG!!11! Cyber Monday LAST CHANCE!!! Show NOW!!!11!" -- and there are many of those -- ever wonder why they get marked as spam
[17:40:02] <requerdanos> Uh, distracted by such a message--via sms--and spelled "Shop" wrong!
[17:40:50] <Runaway1956> Lots of spam slipping through my filters lately - some like you describe, and more from insurance scams
[17:41:06] <Runaway1956> I patiently add them to the spam filters and move on
[17:42:02] <requerdanos> a lot of these are from companies I have done business with, that send me no mail or super-low volume mail, have suddenly lost their minds erroneously believing that I will respond positively to amateurish garbage as long as it has the phrase "black friday" or "cyber monday" in it somewhere
[17:42:10] <Runaway1956> I like how many of them are addressed to some fake name that I've used on throwaway accounts in the past
[17:42:30] <requerdanos> Well, fakename, we value CUSTOMERS LIKE YOU!!! LAST CHANCE to save on...
[17:43:55] <Runaway1956> which reminds me that I haven't even looked at email yet, on a Monday Morning when I might expect something of passing interest
[17:46:10] <Runaway1956> The most interesting email is Obama pimping for donations to the DNC - they still have to buy a couple senate elections in Georgia
[17:47:40] <Runaway1956> This is one for the records:
[17:47:45] <Runaway1956> Pro Tip: Don’t Exit Your Bulletproof Vehicle When You Hear the Sound of Gunfire
[17:48:11] <Runaway1956> "The Fars News report said [Iranian nuclear scientist Mohsen] Fakhrizadeh was traveling with his wife in a bulletproof car, alongside three security personnel vehicles, when he heard what sounded like bullets hitting a vehicle, and he exited the car to determine what had happened."
[17:48:44] <requerdanos> Many trumpvoter republicans in Georgia seem to be drinking the Trump-Aid and literally believing (not just yammering on about) the "Totally Rigged Fake Elections" nonsense... and so are planning to "boycott" the elections there.
[17:48:56] <Runaway1956> So, the assassination attempt would have failed, if he just kept the doors closed.
[17:48:59] <requerdanos> if the Dems win, it will be Trump's own fault
[17:49:18] <requerdanos> I thought the late respected scientist was supposed to be a smart guy?
[17:49:30] <requerdanos> shows what happens when you assume I guess
[17:49:40] <Runaway1956> "scientist" is not always synonymous with "smart guy"
[17:50:37] <Runaway1956> TBH, however, I can't fault the man without some reflection
[17:50:58] <requerdanos> Anyway, any republican who believes the elections are Totally Fake should absolutely stay at home and boycott. Show em who's boss.
[17:51:04] <Runaway1956> First time I ever heard rocket fire, I stood there like an idiot, trying to figure out what the wierd sounds were
[17:53:10] <Runaway1956> I guess we'll see how those senate elections work out in a few days
[17:53:14] <requerdanos> I do not pretend to be an expert in what's threatening vs. what's merely interesting.
[17:53:43] <requerdanos> Yeah, massive fraud, totally rigged, boycott that. Unless you don't believe that, in which case you should go vote.
[17:54:16] <Runaway1956> fraudulent or not, I would want to cast a vote, hoping that it helped to expose the fraud
[17:54:22] <Runaway1956> boycotting an election is just stupid
[17:55:06] <requerdanos> No disagreement there.
[17:55:30] * Runaway1956 heads off to scan news feeds
[17:56:39] <Runaway1956> Doctor Miley Cyrus apologises for a shortage of 3D printed hearts?
[17:56:45] <Runaway1956> https://www.upi.com
[17:56:46] <systemd> ^ 03Miley Cyrus apologizes for shortage of 'Plastic Hearts' physical copies
[17:56:57] <Runaway1956> Oh- wait - wrong context
[18:00:54] <Runaway1956> https://www.upi.com
[18:00:55] <systemd> ^ 03Diver uses camera to fight off hammerhead shark
[18:01:09] <Runaway1956> cool vidya
[18:02:37] <Runaway1956> =submit https://9to5mac.com
[18:02:39] <systemd> Submitting "FCC chairman Ajit Pai to resign next month after controversial four years under President Trump - 9to5Mac"...
[18:02:52] <requerdanos> Won't miss Pai.
[18:03:00] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08FCC Chairman Ajit Pai to Resign Next Month After Controversial Four Years Under President Trump - 9t" (1 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[18:03:02] <Runaway1956> that's two of us
[18:07:27] <Runaway1956> Ahhhhh, The Church of the Tequila Worm
[18:07:44] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.rt.com
[18:07:47] <systemd> Submitting "Tequila bar registers as church in bid to outwit Covid-19 lockdown rules"...
[18:08:09] <Runaway1956> It may be time for me to take communion?
[18:08:09] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Tequila Bar Registers as Church in Bid to Outwit Covid-19 Lockdown Rules" (13 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[18:08:12] <carny> the policy for appointing fcc reps should be to appoint them first then immediately investigate them for financial ties to the telecom industry
[18:08:27] <carny> the ones who are corrupt should then be immediately executed and replaced
[18:08:39] <Runaway1956> I like the execution part
[18:08:47] <carny> rinse and repeat enough times and the whole industry will be fixed in a few weeks
[18:08:53] <requerdanos> shouldn't that investigation etc. happen before, or instead of, appointment?
[18:09:45] <carny> no you want them to commit the crimes of lying under oath while being sworn in and fraudulently claiming to be independent etc
[18:09:57] <carny> that's why they get executed
[18:10:26] <carny> otherwise they could just stay as telecom execs and continue to harm the country under the radar
[18:10:49] <requerdanos> point taken.
[18:11:35] <requerdanos> "Extensive experience interfacing between the government and telecom industry" does not mean you are qualified. It means you are a lobbyist and thus disqualified. See also: Pai
[18:11:38] <Runaway1956> =submit https://futurism.com
[18:11:39] <systemd> Submitting "Pharma exec cried when he saw COVID-19 vaccine results"...
[18:12:01] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Pharma Exec Cried When He Saw COVID-19 Vaccine Results" (7 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[18:12:39] <carny> Runaway1956: tldr it's cheap to make and grants permanent immunity?
[18:12:55] <carny> or it's as useless as we expect?
[18:14:30] <requerdanos> zero serious cases, zero deaths in vaccine group vs. some of both in placebo group.
[18:14:58] <pinchy> was the placebo another vaccine?
[18:15:36] <requerdanos> The placebo was not another vaccine, unless you are a homeopathist.
[18:16:11] <carny> https://www.army.mil
[18:16:12] <systemd> ^ 03'Kraken' provides needed intelligence, force protection at NIE
[18:17:56] <Runaway1956> https://www.ctvnews.ca
[18:17:57] <systemd> ^ 03Biden to receive first intelligence briefing Monday
[18:18:34] <Runaway1956> The transplant doctors who will give Biden his intelligence aren't very hyped - they suspect it will be rejected
[18:22:02] <Runaway1956> Chang'e 5 poised for historic moon landing to collect lunar samples
[18:22:13] <Runaway1956> Don't think I'll submit that until they actually land . . .
[18:25:36] <Runaway1956> https://www.ctvnews.ca
[18:25:37] <systemd> ^ 03A man fatally shot a teenager in Oregon for playing loud music Thanksgiving week, police say
[18:38:33] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.engadget.com
[18:38:35] <systemd> Submitting "DOJ is reportedly preparing antitrust lawsuits against Facebook and Google"...
[18:38:57] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03DOJ is Reportedly Preparing Antitrust Lawsuits Against Facebook and Google" (4 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[18:39:46] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.rt.com
[18:39:48] <systemd> Submitting "Dodgy Dominion? Voting machines said to CRASH during Georgia recount, as court orders officials not to wipe data"...
[18:40:10] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08Dodgy Dominion? Voting Machines Said to CRASH During Georgia Recount, as Court Orders Officials Not " (13 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[18:53:01] <chromas> Test two vaccines. Each one is the control for the other's test
[18:53:59] <requerdanos> Thanks for playing! Unfortunately, you fail. (See "controlled study" for details.) Play again soon!
[18:54:26] <chromas> Test three vaccines...
[18:54:29] <requerdanos> lol
[18:55:51] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.livescience.com
[18:55:57] <systemd> Submitting "Alligators can regrow their tails, surprising scientists"...
[18:56:19] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Alligators Can Regrow Their Tails, Surprising Scientists" (31 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[18:57:52] <chromas> Suddenly, "see you later, alligator" takes on a partially new meaning
[19:11:38] <pinchy> runaway landing https://mobile.twitter.com
[19:11:38] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter
[19:13:53] <requerdanos> "Former Fox News Ass. Producer/Writer" says buying Dominion software is proof of election rigging. Don't let AZ happen in GA! Boycott Georgia elections, repubs! Show 'em!
[19:22:46] <requerdanos> #CrookedKelly and #CrookedPerdue won't know what hit 'em
[19:31:54] <chromas> Do you have a real response though, or just a fake lolz totally real strawman type rebuttal?
[19:34:14] <requerdanos> A real response would be along the lines of observing that an area with much higher population might have different software needs.
[19:34:41] <requerdanos> please don't let that take away, however, from the zomg-fox-news aspect of the thing.
[19:36:30] <requerdanos> ...nor from the truly karmic situation in GA, which is providing its own lolz, as it were
[19:36:38] <chromas> Any suggestion of the possibility of exploiting or rigging should be considered whenever the hardware is running Windows.
[19:37:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - OneWeb Emerges from Bankruptcy, Set to Launch More Satellites in December 2020 - https://sylnt.us - good-luck-with-that
[19:37:19] <carny> oh no don't start brining up supply chain vulnerabilities
[19:37:26] <carny> only conspiracy nuts believe in those
[19:37:33] <requerdanos> "any suggestion should be considered" is not accurate. any credible suggestion, sure.
[19:37:42] <carny> (and every single security engineer who's not an idiot)
[19:38:08] <carny> why do i have to keep explaining this to leftists?
[19:38:13] <requerdanos> no, it's just there's a broader range of exploits available for Windows. Not a supply chain type thing.
[19:38:22] <carny> requerdanos: the burden of proof is on the election officials not the observers
[19:38:31] <chromas> Fuck you, carny! "Muh supply chains", just sit down, stay inside and save lives and stop thinking bout the economy and the thousands of jobs between you and your Netflix subscription.
[19:38:34] <carny> all elections are fraudulent until proven otherwise
[19:38:46] <carny> that's how elections work
[19:38:53] <chromas> carny: s/l/r/
[19:38:53] <SedBot> <chromas> <carny> that's how erections work
[19:39:27] <carny> if somebody counts 600k ballots in the middle of the night after sending all the observers home that election is permanently tainted
[19:39:28] <requerdanos> the election officials have the job of conducting free, fair elections and certifying them as such, sure
[19:39:38] <carny> doesn't matter if the democrats or the republicans do it
[19:39:53] <requerdanos> well, you in that event get into "what are you gonna do?" land
[19:39:56] <carny> 'certification' is a meaningless rubber stamp
[19:40:09] <requerdanos> and do the best you can. certification means you affirm you did the best you can.
[19:40:19] <carny> all it says is 'i may or may not be corrupt but i'm going to sign this piece of paper'
[19:40:22] <chromas> What if you didn't though?
[19:40:34] <carny> 'did the best you can' doesn't count
[19:40:43] <requerdanos> if you didn't, generally one of the observers will point it out. that's their role.
[19:41:01] <requerdanos> generally down to the individual ballot if necessary.
[19:41:09] <chromas> Send observers home, certify, profit
[19:41:10] <carny> if there are indicators of compromise and observers are prevented from verifying the entire chain of custody the election is invalid period
[19:41:12] * TheMightyBuzzard certifies that this irc daemon is running on an IoT toaster that runs android
[19:41:31] <chromas> That'd save a lot of subscription moneys
[19:41:44] <chromas> Just get a USB power strip and run SN off old donated Androids
[19:41:52] <requerdanos> there are some pretty insane systems being certified as totally fine.
[19:42:24] <carny> i would believe an irc daemon running on a toaster quicker than i'd believe an election where ballots were counted with no observers in the middle of the night
[19:42:27] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: you built a new pc recently right? any input on nvidia vs amd for vidya?
[19:42:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> fuck nvidia
[19:42:37] <requerdanos> voting software should be 100% free software, 100% auditable, on top of the elections themselves needing to be free and auditable.
[19:42:49] <carny> they run linux on watches don't they? ;]
[19:42:50] <requerdanos> we don't much have that.
[19:42:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> amd is way, way more oss-friendly for more than a decade
[19:43:07] <chromas> True but what about performance?
[19:43:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> price per dollar is still amd
[19:43:33] <requerdanos> my all-free-software PC ironically has an nvidia card because there are 100% free third party drivers for it
[19:43:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> meh, dollar per performance rather
[19:43:43] <chromas> Also, AMD hasn't fixed ATI's classic system of releasing shitty performing hardware and fixing it in drivers months later
[19:44:05] * chromas stores this price per dollar metric for later
[19:44:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, amd spanks intel on the price:performance metric. by a lot.
[19:44:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> sorry, nvidia
[19:44:27] * TheMightyBuzzard can't type, is late for nap
[19:44:30] <chromas> that's cpus, not...oh okay
[19:44:44] <chromas> buttocks, amd doesn't have anything competing with nvidia on the 'high end'
[19:44:47] <carny> that georgia secretary of state is going ahead with wiping the voting machines even tho a court ordered him not to
[19:44:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> hell, intel spanks nvidia on price vs performance
[19:44:53] <chromas> except maybe the current gen stuff, which nobody has for sale
[19:44:54] <carny> that's not suspicious at all
[19:45:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, who the fuck is gonna spend what nvidia asks for their high end cards though?
[19:45:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> they cost as much as a whole fucking computer
[19:45:24] <chromas> They wouldn't have to if somebody would compete with them
[19:45:56] <requerdanos> My son has a "Radeon VII" that cost a significant fraction as much as a car I own
[19:46:09] <chromas> From now on I'm gonna replace all people with "they" and "them" in the same sentence. Good grammera
[19:46:37] <chromas> I seem to recall Radeon 7s disappeared right after they came out
[19:46:50] <requerdanos> yeah, in GA the outcome is rigged, completely. It's so obvious. Boycott that thing!
[19:46:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm gonna replace all people with very small shell scripts. well, the ones that annoy me anyway.
[19:47:18] <requerdanos> s/*/*.sh/g
[19:47:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> requerdanos, i already have by not living in georgia
[19:47:33] <requerdanos> Yeah I am boycotting it also, same way
[19:47:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> not a huge georgia fan. half the state's atlanta.
[19:48:14] <chromas> probably where all the biden votes came from
[19:48:59] <requerdanos> where a lot of em came from, yes; https://www.nbcnews.com
[19:49:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> sc's fine, florida's fucking insane but nice, but to hell with georgia.
[19:49:03] <systemd> ^ 03Georgia Election Results 2020
[19:50:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> columbus and augusta are part of atlanta nowadays. i wasn't kidding when i said it was half the state.
[19:50:15] <chromas> I think the only thing Georgia ever gave us was Cartoon Network
[19:50:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> peaches
[19:50:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt peaches presidents of the united states of america
[19:50:43] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- Peaches
[19:50:47] <requerdanos> colombus and augusta looking blue on that map
[19:50:58] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard++
[19:50:58] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 394
[19:51:10] <chromas> I couldn't remember the band name
[19:51:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> i lived in the peach capital of ok for a fair chunk of growing up, which is to say i sweated my ass off picking peaches with that song stuck in my head for weeks on end.
[19:52:58] <chromas> "Damn i cant believe all 45 presidents helped make this song. You can almost hear Donald Trump's and Chester B Arthur's parts, they harmonize so much"
[19:54:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt kitty presidents of the united states of america
[19:54:13] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- The Presidents of the United States of America - Kitty
[19:55:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> very cat-accurate song, that
[20:30:38] <FatPhil> Georgia says to me: https://en.wikipedia.org , and of course https://en.wikipedia.org
[20:30:39] <systemd> ^ 03Battleship Chains - Wikipedia
[20:30:40] <systemd> ^ 03R.E.M. - Wikipedia
[20:31:59] <FatPhil> Georgia Peaches is a Lynyrd Skynyrd song, IIRC
[20:36:00] <Runaway1956> https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com
[20:36:01] <systemd> ^ 03Buffalo restaurant puts up ‘Walmart’ sign in protest of Cuomo's restrictions and lockdowns
[20:36:11] <Runaway1956> vidya too!
[20:41:05] <Runaway1956> Eric Schmidt, world renowned child psychologist, tells us about kid
[20:41:16] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.independent.co.uk
[20:41:18] <systemd> Submitting "Google CEO reveals magic age for telling whether your child is smart"...
[20:41:40] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Google CEO Reveals Magic Age for Telling Whether Your Child is Smart" (19 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[20:48:02] <Runaway1956> =submit https://newsakmi.com
[20:54:10] <requerdanos> that one seems to be taking a while
[20:56:14] <chromas> Some of the bot output seems to go into the void. Thanks, systemd
[20:56:43] <chromas> The real systemd. I'm running the bot as a systemd service so it gets killed off when it uses too much memory, since there's no other way to do that on Linux
[21:00:13] <Runaway1956> Huh - yes it has taken awhile
[21:00:28] <Runaway1956> =submit https://phys.org
[21:00:33] <systemd> Submitting "Guam's most endangered tree species reveals universal biological concept"...
[21:00:46] <Runaway1956> I don't think the output goes into the void chromas - instead it goes to the abyss
[21:00:54] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Guam's Most Endangered Tree Species Reveals Universal Biological Concept" (13 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[21:01:44] <chromas> see those messages showed up in the systemd journal, but
[21:02:01] <chromas> oh hm, now it's in there. maybe the stdout bufferdoesn't get flushed often
[21:02:10] <requerdanos> I can confirm they fell through the abyss as well
[21:03:00] <Runaway1956> maybe another source for the fish story . . .
[21:03:09] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.msn.com
[21:03:11] <systemd> Submitting "North America’s biggest salmon run may no longer be in danger"...
[21:03:32] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03North America’s Biggest Salmon Run May No Longer be in Danger" (14 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[21:03:35] <Runaway1956> was afraid that systemd was racissss against salmon
[21:05:34] <Runaway1956> This was of interest, until I actually opened the page - cheap-ass plastic knockoff of a rover?
[21:05:39] <Runaway1956> https://www.cnet.com
[21:05:40] <systemd> ^ 03The cutest Mars rover in the galaxy is one you can build for yourself ( https://www.cnet.com )
[21:05:48] <Runaway1956> Not submittting, lol
[21:08:01] * Runaway1956 sighs
[21:08:06] <Runaway1956> black bears matter
[21:08:18] <Runaway1956> https://phys.org
[21:08:19] <chromas> but do they have right arms?
[21:08:19] <systemd> ^ 03Black bear gut biome surprisingly simple, scientists say
[21:08:38] <Runaway1956> don't think so, but they have two right legs
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[21:10:16] <Runaway1956> https://www.rt.com
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[21:11:03] <chromas> intedasting
[21:11:17] <chromas> the stderr comes out before stdout
[21:13:01] <Runaway1956> =submit https://phys.org
[21:13:15] <chromas> dead bot
[21:13:18] <Runaway1956> oooops
[21:13:26] <Runaway1956> where is stdum ?
[21:13:27] <chromas> I got me a range violation
[21:13:31] <Runaway1956> lol
[21:13:53] <Runaway1956> so, you need an alpine bot instead of a range bot?
[21:14:18] * Runaway1956 should think about cooking
[21:14:34] <Runaway1956> the pork chops on the kitchen counter are about thawed out . . . .
[21:14:44] <Runaway1956> pig chops and baked beans?
[21:15:12] <Runaway1956> #submit https://phys.org
[21:15:12] <MrPlow> got http response code 400
[21:15:26] <Runaway1956> hmmmmmm -
[21:15:41] <Runaway1956> not gonna mess with it, I'm off to the kitchen
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[21:33:24] <Runaway1956> #submit https://bioengineer.org
[21:33:26] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[21:33:51] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[21:34:08] <Runaway1956> MrPlow like bioengineer better than he likes Piss.org
[21:34:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> he's funny like that
[21:34:52] <chromas> git tells me to use --ammend to fix my email address, then tells me there's no such command when I do so
[21:35:16] <chromas> =blame linus
[21:35:16] * systemd points at chromas
[21:35:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> right, you have to write the command first
[21:35:21] <Runaway1956> maybe git spelled amend wrong?
[21:35:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> never heard of making amends?
[21:35:42] <halibut> Fix author as described, then: git commit --reset-author --amend
[21:35:44] <Runaway1956> depends
[21:35:45] <chromas> summonabitch, that was it
[21:35:47] <chromas> thanks
[21:36:01] <chromas> I misspelled it and even read it wrong when checking if I misspelled it
[21:36:15] * Runaway1956 summons a bitch
[21:36:32] <Runaway1956> of fuck - I know which one will appear first . . .
[21:37:31] <chromas> but I'm already here
[21:37:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> how evil is, on a scale of one to stalin, me boxing and wrapping cans of green beans for TR's kids and hiding their actual presents?
[21:37:57] <chromas> That's not evil; that's Uncle lv 2
[21:38:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> that works then
[21:38:38] <chromas> Throw in some baked beans just for the Shyamalan tweest though
[21:39:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. they like baked beans less than green ones, so that's even better.
[21:39:37] <chromas> Wow. The heathens!
[21:40:13] <chromas> Put a can inside a box and pad it out with dried beans
[21:40:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i think yankees swapped them out in their cribs at night. like faeries do.
[21:40:39] <chromas> better yet. put a can of dried beans in a box of cooked beans
[21:40:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha!
[21:41:06] <chromas> make 'em dig for it
[21:41:11] * Runaway1956 hated baked beans as a kid - can't get enough of them today
[21:41:51] <Runaway1956> #submit https://bioengineer.org
[21:41:52] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[21:42:17] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[21:42:47] <chromas> well shit. I had some passwords in firefux I didn't copy over from old pc before wiping
[21:43:09] <Runaway1956> well you're obviously fuxed now
[21:43:21] <Runaway1956> 128 bit random number things?
[21:44:27] <chromas> No but I don't seem to have it in the password manager
[21:44:44] <chromas> fortunately, it's just crap on my server and I can change it with the power of ssh
[21:44:47] <Runaway1956> TMB could be uncle lvl 5 if his "real" presents are lumps of coal
[21:45:06] <chromas> are the coal lumps buried in baked beans?
[21:45:29] <Runaway1956> Ewwwwwww, that's disgusting - don't want no bean juice on my coal!
[21:45:40] <chromas> gitea is better than gitlab. change my mind
[21:45:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth. waste of perfectly good coal.
[21:46:08] <chromas> You're right. Better to use propane. Taste the meat, not the heat
[21:46:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Seemingly Ordinary Fossils May be Hiding Some Major Clues to the Past - https://sylnt.us - Colonel-mustard-in-the-kitchen-with-the-lead-pipe
[21:46:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, think i'll go find some coal. see how many times i can fake them out by laughing and giving them their "real" present.
[21:46:31] <Runaway1956> Impromtu survey: Who here has ever heated their home with coal?
[21:47:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> wood yes, coal no. no coal to speak of in OK.
[21:47:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> and we had lektrik heat when we lived in west-by-god-virginia
[21:47:33] <Runaway1956> First 14 years of life, it was about half and half, wood stoves and coal stoves
[21:47:50] <Runaway1956> coal stoves are easier to manage, like overnight banking and stuff
[21:48:27] <chromas> did you have fractional reserves and quantitative easing too?
[21:48:52] <Runaway1956> nahhhh, just regular banking that required regular deposits to prevent over drafts
[21:48:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> Runaway1956, five karma back for yas. modbomb undone.
[21:49:15] <Runaway1956> lol, I sure piss a lot of people off, don't I?
[21:49:18] <Runaway1956> TY TMB
[21:49:39] <chromas> Perhaps you can find some China coal on AliExpress. Might get there before Christmas, even
[21:50:18] <Runaway1956> Just write to my little brother - for ten bucks, he'll step out in the back yard and dig a little coal up
[21:50:34] <Runaway1956> for another five bucks, he'll probably mail it too, lol
[21:50:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> never. i ain't about to support chinese dinosaurs when there's merican dinosaurs going hungry.
[21:51:44] <chromas> Give them coal, show them the hydraulic press youtube channel, then tell them how diamonds are made
[21:52:01] <Runaway1956> chromas++
[21:52:01] <Bender> karma - chromas: 316
[21:52:15] <Runaway1956> DO NOT let them have the car keys though
[21:53:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> no worries, boy child ain't insured yet
[21:55:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> does have a permit though and TR's company vehicle is a DoT tagged one ton dualie that he can't drive it without a class A license, so i'm stuck with it.
[21:55:38] <chromas> until he puts it through the hydraulic press
[21:56:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> luckily, it's not all that expensive to insure _anyone_ on a 2k1 toyota echo that goes under 3k miles per year.
[21:56:51] <chromas> put me on it
[21:57:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> you're seventeen and have 7 duis, right?
[21:57:44] <chromas> not in TN
[21:57:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's fine then
[21:58:29] * chromas bikes over to tmb's house
[21:59:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> i only pay about $300 a year myself. i kinda dread seeing what he's going to have to pay.
[22:00:20] <chromas> fake his death; generate new kid
[22:00:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, s/fake/arrange/
[22:00:45] <SedBot> <TheMightyBuzzard> <chromas> arrange his death; generate new kid
[22:01:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> half measures avail us nothing
[22:01:18] <chromas> Good point; if he's not eating those baked beans, what's he even there for?
[22:01:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> he's pretty fun to kick
[22:01:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> speaking of, i think i'll go do that on my way to smoke
[22:05:47] <chromas> Rebooting fixes a lot of things
[22:05:58] <chromas> reboot the boy
[22:05:59] <c0lo> https://www.azcentral.com
[22:06:01] <systemd> ^ 03Arizona secretary of state certifies election results with Biden winning state's 11 electoral votes
[22:08:24] <c0lo> https://thehill.com
[22:08:25] <systemd> ^ 03Georgia governor rejects Trump's call to 'overrule' elections officials with emergency powers
[22:11:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> turns out he's covered under my existing policy until he turns 16
[22:11:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> .quiet c0lo
[22:11:58] -!- mode/#soylent [+q *!*@159.153.yqr.yr] by Aphrodite
[22:12:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> #US_Election ftw
[22:12:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> .unquiet c0lo
[22:12:45] -!- mode/#soylent [-q *!*@159.153.yqr.yr] by Aphrodite
[22:22:12] <c0lo> I don't get it, this channel is good for "election fraud by carny" but not good enough for news updates about the election.
[22:23:40] <chromas> Everyone is invited to #US_Election
[22:24:19] * FatPhil hums /Georgia on my Mind/
[22:24:31] <FatPhil> Nothing to do with elections, I'm safe
[22:25:17] <FatPhil> chromas++ for your great work on my boner feature
[22:25:17] <Bender> karma - chromas: 317
[22:25:59] <chromas> Nothing to do with erections, I'm safe
[22:39:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> c0lo, i wasn't paying attention when carny was blabbering
[22:40:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> if i'd noticed it i'd have done the same
[22:47:29] * c0lo feels more special than carny, as he has TMB paying attention to him
[22:47:41] * c0lo grins. Largely
[22:48:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's not an eternal blanket ban on political talk, btw. us election nonsense is just crowding any enjoyable conversation out in this channel just now, so #US_Election or /dev/null or whatever, please. at least until this crap quits making everyone want to shit on each other all day every day.
[22:48:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++ #smoke break
[22:48:44] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 795
[22:54:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> i blame all the cnames
[22:55:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> how bout some As or even AAAAs for a change?
[23:01:10] <FatPhil> Cannot stop the battery.
[23:01:18] <FatPhil> Oh, that's AAs and AAAs
[23:04:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, why you wanna get those corporate douchenozzles stuck in my head?
[23:04:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt sweating bullets megadeth
[23:04:34] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- Megadeth - Sweating Bullets
[23:11:32] <Runaway1956> Well, the Covids have come back around close again
[23:11:56] <Runaway1956> The "director" where wife works has it, her son died of it just a couple days ago.
[23:12:43] <Runaway1956> I've never met either of these people, but they've both had direct contact with my wife.
[23:14:15] <c0lo> "doomscrolling - the practice of continuing to read news feeds online or on social media, despite the fact that the news is predominantly negative and often upsetting"
[23:14:28] <c0lo> =submit https://www.abc.net.au
[23:14:30] <systemd> Submitting "'Doomscrolling' and 'rona' top Macquarie Dictionary word of the year picks - ABC News"...
[23:14:53] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03'Doomscrolling' and 'Rona' Top Macquarie Dictionary Word of the Year Picks - ABC News" (81 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:14:56] * Runaway1956 almost missed Chromas peddling ass again
[23:15:36] * Runaway1956 calls Chromas parole officer about that parole violation
[23:17:15] <c0lo> Apropos - https://www.abc.net.au
[23:17:16] <systemd> ^ 03Words like 'iso' and 'quazzie' could be helping Australians cope with coronavirus - ABC News
[23:25:34] <c0lo> =submit https://www.theguardian.com
[23:25:36] <systemd> Submitting "Tories are 'in a panic' over Scottish independence, says Ian Blackford"...( 1 modified urls; http://www.theguardian.com )
[23:25:58] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Tories are 'in a Panic' Over Scottish Independence, Says Ian Blackford" (10 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:26:58] <c0lo> =submit https://foreignpolicy.com
[23:27:00] <systemd> Submitting "Scottish Independence Is Only Gaining Popularity"...
[23:27:21] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Scottish Independence is Only Gaining Popularity" (3 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:31:25] <c0lo> "As much as 58% of the Scottish population would now vote for separation, polling suggests — a monumental swing from 2014, when 55% Scots rejected leaving the UK."
[23:31:43] <c0lo> =submit https://www.forbes.com
[23:31:46] <systemd> Submitting "President Joe Biden — Good News For Scottish Independence?"...( 1 modified urls; https://www.forbes.com )
[23:32:07] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03President Joe Biden — Good News for Scottish Independence?" (18 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:37:00] <Bytram> .
[23:37:01] <Bytram> Oi! You guys have been rather chatty. No way I gonna catch up on backscroll.
[23:37:02] <Bytram> .
[23:39:08] <c0lo> A, AA, AAA and AAAA
[23:39:44] <requerdanos> also, we learned who won the US el-- well, you know, the thing
[23:44:43] <c0lo> requerdanos, the chatty population moved on #US_election. It's quiet there too.
[23:45:11] <requerdanos> Maybe I'll join you. I can lurk there as well as here.
[23:48:18] <c0lo> Oh, wow. “Rather than hearing the cries of Ohioans, Gov. DeWine continues to stifle those cries by finding more inventive ways to use masks to muffle the voices of the people."
[23:48:29] <c0lo> https://breaking911.com
[23:48:29] <systemd> ^ 03Articles Of Impeachment Filed Against Ohio Governor Mike Dewine - Breaking911
[23:49:06] <requerdanos> Maybe they don't know you can talk with a mask on. Anti-masker mentality and all.
[23:49:31] <c0lo> Masked peach is not a freeze peach, right?
[23:49:45] <requerdanos> princess peach is in another castle.
[23:50:54] <c0lo> And Luigi is not Giuliani.
[23:55:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - FCC Chairman Ajit Pai Will Step Down on January 20 - https://sylnt.us - 2021-looks-better-already
[23:59:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> mmmm... pai