#soylent | Logs for 2020-11-27

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[00:12:36] <FatPhil> erm, reduction in the use of diacetyl?
[00:12:46] <FatPhil> I thought that was a solved problem
[00:13:42] <FatPhil> quite why diacetyl was allowed in a vaping product in the first place moggles the bind, given the IFF lawsuits, etc.
[00:45:24] <FatPhil> Bot-writers - feature request: '!boner <nick>' , which says "<nick>, I've told you <N> times, put your boner away", where N is a counter that increments each time you use the macro. I need it for Runaway1956.
[00:49:08] <chromas> =feature add FatPhil's boner support
[00:49:13] <systemd> 👍 https://phab.zeroindex.org
[00:49:38] <Runaway1956> FatPhil needs a boner of his own to worry about
[00:50:22] <chromas> A Bone of My Own, by Phil & away
[00:50:57] <FatPhil> the chan's called #shitlords, not #trumpboners
[00:52:22] <Runaway1956> Fox warning, prepare to be triggered!
[00:52:25] <Runaway1956> https://www.foxnews.com
[00:52:26] <systemd> ^ 03LAPD searching for 3 separate drivers who hit pedestrian and left him to die
[00:56:00] <Runaway1956> they people in cars might make some excuse - the guy on the motorcycle can hardly make an excuse, he stopped, then ran
[01:00:11] <Runaway1956> OH NOES!!!! THE COVID HAS MUTATED AGAIN!!
[01:00:21] <Runaway1956> We didn't cook the turkey, left it in the freezer
[01:00:37] <Runaway1956> damned COVID got into the freezer, and reanimated the turkey
[01:00:53] <Runaway1956> it's dancing in the kitchen, and chasing the wife around
[01:01:04] <Runaway1956> I'm staying in my computer room so it don't get me
[01:01:52] <FatPhil> you're watching the vid to /Sledgehammer/, you silly boy.
[01:02:20] <FatPhil> !boner Runaway1956
[01:02:31] <FatPhil> see, it already has users
[01:03:18] * Runaway1956 slaps FatPhil hand away from his boner
[01:06:42] <Runaway1956> https://www.rt.com
[01:06:44] <systemd> ^ 03‘Nightmarish’: California police in riot gear DRAG families from vacant state-owned homes in SHOCKING footage (VIDEOS)
[01:18:11] <c0lo> =w Adverse posession
[01:18:12] <systemd> opportunity to score Possession (video game), a 2000s vaporware title Adverse possession Dispossess Eviction Human possession in science fiction Possessed - https://en.wikipedia.org
[01:18:49] <c0lo> Doh.
[01:19:10] <c0lo> https://en.wikipedia.org
[01:19:11] <systemd> ^ 03Adverse possession - Wikipedia
[01:19:48] <c0lo> There should be a civil suit for eviction prior to that.
[01:20:34] <Runaway1956> Yeah, something like that -
[01:21:12] <Runaway1956> when a police department descends on a neighborhood and starts dragging people out - it looks bad
[01:23:46] <Bytram> Runaway1956: How can an eviction ever look like anything but bad? I you are not legally permitted to live there, then there are consequences which includes possible eviction.
[01:24:03] <Bytram> do stupid stuff...
[01:24:45] <Bytram> or... try to survive in a country which has a failing safety net.
[01:25:45] <Runaway1956> They might have avoided a lot of bad publicity if they didn't do it on Thanksgiving eve . . .
[01:27:19] <Runaway1956> 4th of July would have been better - then they could act like they were "liberating" the people from oppressive homes
[01:30:02] <AzumaHazuki> Bytram, remember who you're talking to there...
[01:30:28] <Runaway1956> Don't start 'Zumi . . .
[01:30:42] <AzumaHazuki> kiss my entire ass
[01:30:48] <AzumaHazuki> anyway, i need sleep. busy day tomorrow
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[01:31:10] <chromas> Poison muh well
[01:31:38] <Runaway1956> she would have to mark the spot . . .
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[02:39:06] <c0lo> I visited space and all I got is hydrochephalus https://sciworthy.com
[02:39:07] <systemd> ^ 03New study finds astronauts are suffering permanent brain alteration after long flights – Sciworthy
[02:39:50] <Runaway1956> Probly doesn't apply to Navy veterans
[02:43:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt alice's restaurant original 1967 recording
[02:43:16] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- Alice&#39;s Restaurant - Original 1967 Recording
[03:29:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://notthebee.com
[03:29:04] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[03:29:29] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[04:08:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Foxconn to Shift Some Apple Production to Vietnam to Minimize China Risk - https://sylnt.us - spreading-the-risk
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[06:35:55] <FatPhil> damn, quiet night tonight it seems - too many fifths?
[07:07:10] <lld> everyone's in food coma
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[07:31:39] <FatPhil> =submit https://spectrum.ieee.org
[07:31:41] <systemd> Submitting "Full Page Reload"...
[07:32:00] <FatPhil> Best <title> evar!
[07:32:02] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Full Page Reload" (1 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[07:55:29] <chromas> What do standards groups know about following standards?
[08:04:09] <FatPhil> they're called standard bearers because they barely follow the standards
[08:04:49] <chromas> Good point
[08:07:27] <chromas> Also it's an engineering group so I guess web standards aren't really on topic for them
[08:09:08] <lld> >not becoming your own defacto standard
[08:09:09] <lld> :)
[08:11:22] <chromas> Hello there, Internet Explorer!
[08:11:36] <lld> Works Best in Chrome
[08:13:09] <FatPhil> I love defecto standards
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[09:45:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tech Giants Face Fines or Even Break-Up if They Breach New EU Rules - https://sylnt.us
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[13:19:42] <Bytram> coffee++
[13:19:42] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5399
[13:19:54] <Bytram> !uid
[13:19:54] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 13477, owned by kflzplaycle
[13:22:13] * Teckla is doing a caffeine detox this week
[13:22:22] <Teckla> No coffee for me. :(
[13:31:32] <Runaway1956> defective coffee pot has only dregs in the bottom . . .
[13:36:32] <Runaway1956> coffee++ ahhhhhhhh
[13:36:32] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5400
[13:37:35] <FatPhil> our central heating's broken, and we've just had the second snow of the year today, so it's coffee for heat, not for enjoyment.
[13:38:16] <Runaway1956> Not good phil. The last time that happened to me, we had a house filled with little people.
[13:38:37] <FatPhil> little people can generate a few hundred watts of heating thought
[13:39:04] <Runaway1956> At 5 below zero, a few hundred watts doesn't go far
[13:40:01] <Runaway1956> bought a kerosene heater, hung blankets up in the hallway, and played cavepeople in the living room and kitchen
[13:40:57] <Runaway1956> it's times like that when you miss old fashioned wood stoves
[13:42:31] <FatPhil> one problem is that my ceiling peaks at about 7-ism metres high, it's gonna take a long time to heat up the space with our little electric heater in the bedroom.
[13:43:03] <FatPhil> we have underfloor heating in the bathroom, but nothing in the lounge/kitchen.
[13:44:44] <FatPhil> Our heating's community heating - hot water powered by something noxious a kilometer away, and then some monstrously complicated thing in the basement that's apparently stopped doing its complicated job of pumping hot water up to the top floor.
[13:45:13] <Runaway1956> Suggest baking lots of pies, cakes, and cookies for the heat.
[13:46:12] <Runaway1956> https://www.jpost.com
[13:46:13] <systemd> ^ 03Colchicine to be investigated as possible COVID-19 treatment
[13:46:48] <Runaway1956> That sounds almost like they have tens of thousands of patients, and they are assigning experimental treatments at random
[13:47:03] <FatPhil> i'm no baker, but a stew might be appealing. alas we're holding a beer tasting tonight, and I don't want the place smelling of food.
[13:47:30] <Runaway1956> now that cracks me up phil
[13:57:31] <FatPhil> If we resort to holding the tasting in the sauna, I'll let you know, so you can have another giggle at my expense.
[14:36:55] <Runaway1956> https://www.oann.com
[14:36:57] <systemd> ^ 03German minister urges meatpackers to work overtime to clear farm backlog
[14:37:35] <Runaway1956> part of that food production and distribution - if that falls apart, the whole world is in trouble
[14:37:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Square Enix Launches Permanent Work-from-Home Program Next Month - https://sylnt.us - unreal-estate?
[14:39:41] <FatPhil> distribution is invisible to most people - you only notice how important it is when it's broken.
[14:40:16] <Runaway1956> https://www.independent.co.uk
[14:40:18] <systemd> ^ 03Seoul says North Korea is trying to disrupt efforts to make a Covid vaccine
[14:43:46] <Runaway1956> Is Darwin a city in Australia?
[14:43:53] <Runaway1956> https://www.9news.com.au
[14:43:54] <systemd> ^ 03Girl flung from roof in tragic WA car-surfing accident
[14:48:30] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.newsweek.com
[14:48:33] <systemd> Submitting "Tulsi Gabbard urges Donald Trump to pardon Edward Snowden and Julian Assange"...
[14:48:55] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Tulsi Gabbard Urges Donald Trump to Pardon Edward Snowden and Julian Assange" (68 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:50:18] <Runaway1956> I like that girl, she's smarter than almost any random group of ten congress critters
[14:52:25] <Runaway1956> =submit https://techcrunch.com
[14:52:27] <systemd> Submitting "UK to set up ‘pro-competition’ regulator to put limits on big tech – TechCrunch"...( 1 modified urls; https://social.techcrunch.com )
[14:52:49] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03UK to Set Up ‘Pro-competition’ Regulator to Put Limits on Big Tech – TechCrunch" (84 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:55:23] <Runaway1956> https://www.nytimes.com
[14:55:24] <systemd> ^ 03Opinion | Forgive Us Our Debts
[15:02:42] <Runaway1956> https://www.independent.co.uk
[15:02:43] <systemd> ^ 03Ancient whale skeleton discovered in Thailand
[15:03:03] <Runaway1956> whales were beaching themselves long ago, apparently
[15:08:33] <FatPhil> are you saying the ones that ended up high on the andes were mountain climbers?
[15:13:19] <FatPhil> https://ifpnews.com
[15:13:21] <systemd> ^ 03Top Iranian Nuclear Scientist Fakhrizadeh Assassinated
[15:14:00] <FatPhil> Oh, I missed your 'darwin' comment earlier!
[15:14:33] <FatPhil> "suffers critical head injuries" ... nothing of value was harmed.
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[15:32:49] <c0lo> https://www.reuters.com
[15:32:50] <systemd> ^ 03Inching toward exit, Trump says he'll leave if Biden wins Electoral College vote
[15:33:24] <c0lo> He'll leave if evicted
[15:35:10] <c0lo> =submit https://www.reuters.com
[15:35:12] <systemd> Submitting "Ten COVID-19 vaccines seen by mid-year, head of global pharma group says"...( 1 modified urls; https://www.reuters.com )
[15:35:34] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Ten COVID-19 Vaccines Seen by Mid-year, Head of Global Pharma Group Says" (12 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[15:35:59] <c0lo> https://www.reuters.com
[15:36:00] <systemd> ^ 03Prominent Iranian nuclear scientist Fakhrizadeh assassinated -state media
[15:36:23] <c0lo> https://www.reuters.com
[15:36:24] <systemd> ^ 03Analysis: Covert Israeli-Saudi meeting sends Biden a strong message on Iran
[15:36:47] <c0lo> Putin might get interested, then.
[15:37:18] <c0lo> s/, then/in Iran, then/
[15:37:19] <SedBot> <c0lo> Putin might get interestedin Iran, then.
[15:41:28] <c0lo> "Democrats have steadily moved too far to the left for many rural voters."
[15:41:39] <c0lo> https://apnews.com
[15:41:40] <systemd> ^ 03Biden's win hides a dire warning for Democrats in rural U.S.
[15:41:48] <FatPhil> to the west coast, you mean?
[15:46:09] <c0lo> Why stop there? What, is Hawaii bad?
[15:46:33] <FatPhil> since whitey got there, yeah
[15:53:51] <c0lo> "Utah believes pornographic materials can be harmful if viewed by minors", Hmmm, that's another place where the whitey got there.
[15:54:02] <c0lo> https://apnews.com
[15:54:03] <systemd> ^ 03Adult websites complying with new Utah warning label law
[15:57:50] <FatPhil> May contain traces of nuts?
[15:59:35] <c0lo> Nope. Contains nurs fer sure and in amounts larger than traces .
[15:59:46] <c0lo> s/nurs/nuts/
[15:59:46] <SedBot> <c0lo> Nope. Contains nuts fer sure and in amounts larger than traces .
[15:59:56] <c0lo> Utah, I mean.
[16:00:27] <FatPhil> it'll be alright as long as they trust in their tablets
[16:00:54] <FatPhil> (yes, I know that's not technically accurate, it was a joke, goddammit)
[16:00:57] <c0lo> So the collective noun for politicians is "a gaggle"? I would have bet for "a shitpile".
[16:01:24] <FatPhil> a fester of politicians sounds good to me
[16:01:41] <FatPhil> a shitnozzle of journalists
[16:01:56] <c0lo> "a gaggle of GOP power players" https://apnews.com
[16:03:50] <FatPhil> n.p. https://www.youtube.com
[16:03:52] <systemd> ^ 03Clutch - Power Player (Lyrics)
[16:05:19] <c0lo> Apparently, COVID is running out of Brits to infect https://apnews.com
[16:05:20] <systemd> ^ 03The Latest: UK: Virus outbreak apparently stopped growing
[16:05:42] <c0lo> "regional variation... falling in the northwest and northeast, which previously had the highest infection rates."^^
[16:08:56] <FatPhil> anywhere that dominic cummings has touched has been adversely affected.
[16:09:15] <Runaway1956> https://redstate.com
[16:09:16] <systemd> ^ 03Reporter 'Rages' Over Large Gathering, What Happens Next Exposes the 'Entire Problem of Journalism'
[16:09:32] <Runaway1956> on the subject of shitnozzle of journalists
[16:09:54] <FatPhil> In an island as narrow as britain, there's a much more succinct way of saying "northwest and northeast", and that's "north".
[16:11:42] <FatPhil> My cousin's the house cartoonist for the largest tabloid "newspaper" in the UK. When I was back there last year I accidentally told him I thought it was a "shitnozzle", and he was somewhat taken aback by my language!
[16:12:34] <c0lo> Did he get used with the nickname since?
[16:14:08] <c0lo> All signs of good and cheap wine for Xmas downunder https://apnews.com
[16:14:09] <systemd> ^ 03China slaps 200% tax on Australia wine amid tensions
[16:14:34] <Runaway1956> North Korea has also banned fishing and salt production at sea to prevent seawater from being infected with the virus, the NIS told lawmakers.
[16:14:42] <Runaway1956> https://www.foxnews.com
[16:14:43] <systemd> ^ 03South Korea spy agency says North Korea locked down capital, killed people
[16:14:57] <Runaway1956> Don't know how we can handle it if the ocean gets covid
[16:15:09] <c0lo> The Chinese should chill down, with a glass of white in front.
[16:17:32] <FatPhil> c0lo: if you think you're gonna be getting lots of cheap wine for christmas, santa's got another message for you - you're getting more coal than wine
[16:19:35] <c0lo> Nope, the coal is already sent over. It hasn't been unloaded yet.
[16:20:09] <Runaway1956> oh yeah, phil, don't feel lonely
[16:20:16] <Runaway1956> disaster averted here at my house
[16:20:29] <Runaway1956> toilet started leaking water on the floor
[16:20:45] <Runaway1956> 20 minutes and a pair of channel locks, and I've got that under control
[16:21:09] <Runaway1956> at least the water is liquid
[16:22:01] <c0lo> Heh, I would have used wine to flush the toilet. Problem adverted, no more water leaking on the floor.
[16:23:05] <Runaway1956> then she would be complaining about stains
[16:23:10] <Runaway1956> women are funny sometimes
[16:24:16] <c0lo> Oh, well, a sixpack of Bud then.
[16:24:20] <Runaway1956> Ahhhhh!! Saint Greta is back in the news!!
[16:24:25] <Runaway1956> https://sputniknews.com
[16:24:27] <systemd> ^ 03Greta Thunberg 'Honoured' by Reports That Amazon Considers Her Activism 'Threat to Business'
[16:25:03] <Runaway1956> She needs to be canonized quickly, before she loses the opportunity to be the youngest saint ever
[16:25:12] <Runaway1956> or cannonized, whichever
[16:26:38] <Runaway1956> In France and Germany, if the police beat a white man, it's not a crime, right?
[16:26:45] <c0lo> What's with the Brits so keen on keeping watchdogs as pets? https://apnews.com
[16:26:45] <systemd> ^ 03UK to launch new watchdog next year to police tech giants
[16:27:15] <Runaway1956> Part of police surveillance? All dogs must be watch dogs.
[16:28:34] <Runaway1956> no one has made any witty observations about pig guts in Taiwan?
[16:32:43] <Runaway1956> What is it with the BBC, when they have nothing to report, they just make a hodgepodge of unrelated crap?
[16:32:51] <Runaway1956> https://www.bbc.co.uk
[16:33:01] <systemd> ^ 03Frisky tortoises and pesky squirrels
[16:37:43] <c0lo> Well, zombie minks are taken, what else is to write about? Badgers, mushroom and a snake are too old news.
[16:41:22] <FatPhil> this is the BBC, at least have a rant about the hand of god
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[16:43:12] <SoyCow7066> =cite 10.4209/aaqr.2020.06.0302
[16:43:17] <systemd> <p><b>Journal Reference</b>:<br/>Ajit Ahlawat, Alfred Wiedensohler, Sumit Kumar Mishra. <b>An Overview on the Role of Relative Humidity in Airborne Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in Indoor Environments</b> [open], <cite>Aerosol and Air Quality Research</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.4209/aaqr.2020.06.0302">10.4209/aaqr.2020.06.0302</a>)</p>
[16:47:00] <SoyCow7066> =cite https://doi.org
[16:47:02] <systemd> <p><b>Journal Reference</b>:<br/>Jamshidi, Sajad, Baniasad, Maryam, Niyogi, Dev. <b>Global to USA County Scale Analysis of Weather, Urban Density, Mobility, Homestay, and Mask Use on COVID-19</b>, <cite>International Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.3390/ijerph17217847">10.3390/ijerph17217847</a>)</p>
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[17:09:20] <Runaway1956> https://nationalfile.com
[17:09:20] <systemd> ^ 03BREAKING: Trump Says Big Tech Immunities Must Be Terminated for ‘National Security’ Reasons
[17:11:54] <FatPhil> Diego Maradona = An adored amigo
[17:11:58] <FatPhil> (^ anagram)
[17:29:26] <Runaway1956> https://nypost.com
[17:29:27] <systemd> ^ 03Woman dead, driver critical after smashing into Buffalo monument
[17:33:11] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.9news.com.au
[17:33:12] <systemd> Submitting "First space junk recovery mission"...
[17:33:34] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03First Space Junk Recovery Mission" (1 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[17:33:42] * Runaway1956 thinks a Dragon mission should recover a bunch of this crap, and return it to earth for museums and stuff
[17:34:19] * Runaway1956 hates to see expensive junk burn up in the atmosphere
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[17:43:31] <requerdanos> There are legitimately people who believe that "the election is not over", that "President Trump won re-election", and that "massive voter fraud" is obscuring the true facts; further, that there is "widespread publicly available evidence" of said massive fraud.
[17:44:20] <requerdanos> I know people are idiots who, for example, believe and forward hoax chain letters/posts, but this is a new level of fact-free bliss
[17:44:30] <Runaway1956> https://twitter.com
[17:44:31] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter ( https://mobile.twitter.com )
[17:44:39] <Runaway1956> hilarious
[17:45:27] <requerdanos> nice. "Hi, it's me again..."
[17:56:19] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.9news.com.au
[17:56:21] <systemd> Submitting "Ice melt reveals ancient reindeer-hunting arrows"...
[17:56:43] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Ice Melt Reveals Ancient Reindeer-hunting Arrows" (1 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[18:03:02] <carny> https://conservativeangle.com
[18:03:03] <systemd> ^ 03WE CAUGHT THEM: Lin Wood Outed Mysterious Georgia Operative Gabe Sterling – Now Video Shows Him Admitting He Helped Set Up Drop Boxes and Promoted Far Left Activists as Absentee Ballot Counters
[18:03:30] <carny> lin wood is going to win his case and overturn georgia's election fraud
[18:08:30] <carny> i sincerely hope a few republican heads are going to roll along with a great many democrats
[18:09:03] <carny> possibly georgia will need a new governor and certainly a new secretary of state
[18:09:53] <carny> hash tag all corruption must be purged
[18:17:15] <Runaway1956> requerdanos - the election isn't over at least until the electoral college votes, and maybe not then
[18:17:41] <Runaway1956> no place in any election law does mainstream media and bit tech call the election
[18:18:00] <Runaway1956> s/bit/big/
[18:18:00] <SedBot> <Runaway1956> no place in any election law does mainstream media and big tech call the election
[18:18:53] <Runaway1956> if it is proven that 680,000 pennsylvania votes were faked, there goes all the hype
[18:19:16] <Runaway1956> Penna sent out like 18 million votes by mail
[18:19:25] <Runaway1956> 1.8 million
[18:19:35] <Runaway1956> got back almost 2.5 million votes by mail
[18:20:20] <Runaway1956> 680,000 unexplainable votes almost all for Biden
[18:20:53] <Runaway1956> but, that can't be fraudulent, can it?
[18:56:40] <requerdanos> Okay, this is looking good.
[18:57:26] <requerdanos> first, no place in any law does it say wind and rain will happen if a hurricane is going to pass over, but experience shows that they will.
[18:58:34] <requerdanos> the "call" here means "I am conscious and aware of the vote counts and see what effect that is going to have on the electoral college, which decides the election" = biden wins, kids.
[18:59:17] <requerdanos> the shorter way to say this is "I am calling the election for biden" which I feel comfortable doing at this point.
[18:59:33] <requerdanos> that's a way to acknowledge the EC, not deny it.
[19:00:30] <requerdanos> If your 700k votes are proven fake, that will mean that there is some proof. Excellent! Love to see some, rather than talk of some.
[19:02:36] <requerdanos> However, as a super-stretch, if some evidence of that existed, and if somehow pennsylvania flipped trumpian (spoiler alert: doesn't, won't), he would merely lose by a different amount.
[19:05:54] <requerdanos> If my math's right (not a foregone conclusion), Trump would have to somehow overcome the insurmountable obstacle of overturning an electoral vote times something like 37, and few states have that many votes (CA, TX?)
[19:09:05] <requerdanos> What I'm getting at is these are things I, as an observer who did not vote for either guy, observe, and other people observe different, possibly contradictory things.
[19:10:33] <requerdanos> I had big hopes for the lawsuit in PA, which was blonked out of court in part for being based on speculation rather than on evidence.
[19:11:41] <requerdanos> "Dude I heard there are totally 1.8 million versus 2.5 million, gotta be widespread fraud against trump" is the legal equivalent of idiocracy's "First of all, look at him"
[19:16:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Missing Ink: Darwin Notebooks, Long Unseen, Now Believed Stolen - https://sylnt.us
[19:22:31] <chromas> https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net
[19:35:49] <chromas> If Russia totally defrauded the election without evidence, why can't the dems?
[19:37:59] <requerdanos> The election that Russia allegedly meddled in (evidence of same not seen by me at least) was certified and moved right along as it should have.
[19:38:37] <requerdanos> There was some griping, complaining, "investigating" on a scale so silly as to be operatic, but no interference with the election.
[19:42:44] <Runaway1956> requerdanos - my hope for all the lawsuits purportedly being filed, is that the truth wins.
[19:43:06] <Runaway1956> Remember, I don't like trump much more than I like being poked in the eye
[19:43:24] <Runaway1956> but, if the vote was rigged, I want it fixed
[19:43:33] <Runaway1956> and it's hard for me to beleive that Biden won
[19:43:43] <requerdanos> these lawsuits are the ultimate SLAPP suits, not only against public participation but against straight-up voting.
[19:44:50] <Runaway1956> I am, however, losing what little faith I have in the Republicans, because things are moving so slowly
[19:45:10] <requerdanos> There is/was strong anti-trump sentiment for various reasons, so it shouldn't be hard to believe that a random person could win against him.
[19:45:11] <Runaway1956> if they have proof of anything, they need to get it out there, and pretty damned soon
[19:45:41] <Runaway1956> Kinda true - Biden is a random person
[19:45:50] <chromas> Biden's not random—He's exactly the sort of person all the mostly peaceful protestors claim to be against
[19:46:08] <Runaway1956> THAT is true chromas
[19:46:38] <requerdanos> It seems especially from the handling of the trump presidency itself as a picture of the trump voter suits that they are going for an evidence-free strategy to lose intentionally in venues where fact is important and they have no chance, then appeal to SCOTUS, a venue that trump possibly believes should be loyal to him personally.
[19:47:06] <Runaway1956> If that's his strategy, he has lost
[19:47:14] <requerdanos> I don't think at this late state of their protests that proof will suddenly materialize.
[19:47:21] <Runaway1956> justices don't have loyalty to anything but their own personal crusades
[19:47:54] <Runaway1956> whatever they have, it's really close to put-up-or-shut-up time
[19:48:08] <requerdanos> From PA: "Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here," Judge Stephanos Bibas wrote for the three-judge panel.
[19:48:27] <requerdanos> (from https://6abc.com)
[19:48:29] <systemd> ^ 03Page Not Found | 6abc.com ( https://6abc.com)/ )
[19:49:02] <requerdanos> Page not found! How can you explain that except as a conspiracy against me!
[19:51:11] <chromas> It's the parenthesis
[19:51:39] <requerdanos> sure, a likely alternate explanation, but conspiracy theorists don't think that way.
[19:52:45] <chromas> Clearly, you put that ) in there, so you're the one attempting a coup in this channel with a false flag!
[19:53:04] <chromas> Obvious CIA spook is obvious
[19:53:31] <requerdanos> Anyway I guess it helps to interpret things from the viewpoint of the President's view on evidence, facts, truth, etc. (he's shown to be against them.) Whether because he's an avant-garde genius or whatever explanation, that seems to be the upshot of it, easier to say "There is widespread publicly available evidence" than to produce evidence that doesn't exist.
[19:56:25] <requerdanos> And I get the president's viewpoint, I think, and I acknowledge that his viewpoint has taken him much farther, career-wise, than mine has taken me.
[19:57:06] <requerdanos> What I am having trouble with is the literally millions of people who seem to genuinely believe that what the President is saying is actually true in any sense of the word.
[19:58:54] <requerdanos> This is because some of these people are among my circle of friends and family, are are people I know to be intelligent and would previously have said would have good information hygeine.
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[21:22:31] <AzumaHazuki> wheee...this weekend will be spent changing my sleep cycle for night shift.
[21:23:12] <halibut> Perhaps a minor point, but I was under the impression that in 2016, Russia was accused of interference with the US election, not fraud. They attempted to influence how people voted, but did not actually mess with the voting process. Searchin for ``fraud'' in https://en.wikipedia.org reveals there were people accused/indicted of fraud but
[21:23:14] <systemd> ^ 03Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections - Wikipedia
[21:23:18] <halibut> they were not Russia.
[21:26:58] <requerdanos> That's a good point. Do you feel influenced?
[21:31:12] <requerdanos> Good morning, AzumaHazuki. My, you're up early; it's still light out.
[21:32:07] <AzumaHazuki> indeed. i've been doing 0700-1500 shifts, and will start 2300-0700 Monday (Sunday technically)
[21:32:22] <AzumaHazuki> so, time to shift phase the hard, or at least incredibly caffeinated, way
[21:33:32] <AzumaHazuki> about 6-8 hours a day should do it. will try getting up at 1300 instead of 0430 tomorrow, then around 1900 Sunday
[21:52:08] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://www.sciencedirect.com from the cell-mates'-suicide-pact dept.
[21:52:11] <systemd> Submitting "Synergism of TNF-α and IFN-γ triggers inflammatory cell death, tissue damage, and mortality in SARS-CoV-2 infection and cytokine shock syndromes"...
[21:52:32] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08Synergism of TNF-α and IFN-γ Triggers Inflammatory Cell Death, Tissue Damage, and Mortality in SAR" (3 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[21:53:54] <chromas> Better than synergism of actionable cloudscale paradigm shifts
[21:54:56] <AzumaHazuki> ...ye gods
[22:05:39] <AzumaHazuki> ...okay what the fuck. is this real? https://pbs.twimg.com what happened, did he get banished to the kiddie table for Thanksgiving?
[22:09:44] <requerdanos> perhaps he was complaining about how people talk about his small (hands|whatever) and someone gave him the advice "if you sit at a smaller desk, you yourself will look bigger." If so, props to that person.
[22:11:16] <AzumaHazuki> whom the gods wish to destroy, they first make lulzy :D
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[22:40:37] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: s/f.*/give linebacker shoulderpads/
[22:40:37] <SedBot> <Bytram> <AzumaHazuki> whom the gods wish to destroy, they give linebacker shoulderpads
[22:40:52] <Bytram> ;)
[22:40:53] <AzumaHazuki> lawl
[22:41:08] <Bytram> :D
[22:41:20] <AzumaHazuki> trump is the whiniest little bitch i have ever seen, for real. and all his supporters are too.
[22:41:27] <AzumaHazuki> 70 million whiny little bitches
[22:41:54] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: s/ little/
[22:42:01] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: s/ little//
[22:42:01] <SedBot> <Bytram> <AzumaHazuki> 70 million whiny bitches
[22:42:28] <AzumaHazuki> fair, fair. trump's not small. he must weigh like 2.5 of me. lots of his supporters are fat sacks too
[22:43:54] <Bytram> ISTR a physician's report giving his weight as 1 pound less than what could qualify him as obese for his height
[22:44:14] <Bytram> amazing coincidence, that. no?
[22:44:30] <Bytram> =g donald trump weight height
[22:44:31] <systemd> https://www.washingtonpost.com - Doctor says Trump is 6-3, 239 pounds, and the Internet has so many ...
[22:45:09] <Bytram> =w donald trump
[22:45:10] <systemd> Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current president of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television - https://en.wikipedia.org
[22:46:38] <AzumaHazuki> yeah if he's 239 pounds I'm Callista beat-boxing Flockhart
[22:47:32] * Bytram never noticed this before; except for the first letter. "weight" and "height" are spelled the same -- but sound nothing like each other.
[22:48:35] <AzumaHazuki> English! as much of a pain as Japanese is at least each kana glyph makes only one sound
[22:48:43] <Bytram> I am giving up on trying to read backscroll
[22:48:55] <Bytram> =f "The Chaos"
[22:49:00] <Bytram> =g "The Chaos"
[22:49:01] <systemd> http://ncf.idallen.com - The Chaos - Gerard Nolst Trenité
[22:49:15] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: have fun with that one!
[22:49:46] <Bytram> =g ladel hat rotten hut
[22:49:47] <systemd> https://annex.exploratorium.edu - Ladle Rat Rotten Hut: Exploratorium Exhibit.
[22:49:57] <Bytram> ^^^ this one, too!
[22:50:15] <Bytram> and, with that, I'm going to take a nap.
[22:50:23] <Bytram> laters!
[22:50:26] <AzumaHazuki> o/
[23:36:54] <c0lo> Trump had his wish granted, he can now appeal to what he thinks is his Supremes https://apnews.com
[23:36:54] <systemd> ^ 03Appeals court rejects Trump challenge of Pennsylvania race
[23:37:18] <c0lo> s/is his/are his/
[23:37:18] <SedBot> <c0lo> Trump had his wish granted, he can now appeal to what he thinks are his Supremes https://apnews.com
[23:41:13] <c0lo> "This year, the Justice Department has put to death more people than during the previous half-century"
[23:41:25] <c0lo> https://apnews.com
[23:41:26] <systemd> ^ 03New rule could allow gas, firing squads for US executions
[23:42:42] <AzumaHazuki> that was always the endgame: corrupt the SCOTUS, then get cases thrown up there and have his cronies rubber stamp them
[23:42:53] <AzumaHazuki> this is going to end in gunfire...
[23:46:07] <c0lo> No, it won't. It will result in SCOTUS tellin POTUS to fuck off.
[23:49:33] <AzumaHazuki> i doubt that very much. you've seen what happened
[23:49:52] <AzumaHazuki> remember they did this 20 years ago when it was Dubya in his position
[23:52:31] <chromas> There was a shootout?
[23:56:56] <c0lo> The claims Giuliani makes are not supported by any tiny bit of evidence and yet ask for disenfranching at least 1.5 mil of people. All for nothing, as even this would not change the result of the election.
[23:57:18] <c0lo> It's not about just a hundred votes or so.
[23:57:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Monolith Found in Utah Desert - https://sylnt.us - I'm-not-saying-it's-aliens