#soylent | Logs for 2020-11-16

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[00:00:20] <Runaway1956> Huh - sugar free sugar wafers - who'da thunk it
[00:00:46] <Runaway1956> somehow - they just don't seem right
[00:09:31] <FatPhil> n.w. /That's My Bush/ Ep.03
[00:17:16] <halibut> aristarchus: A few days ago, you posted a link to an article about some statistical anomaly in the Pennsylvania vote tallies by county. I looked into it, and wrote my comments into the #US_Election channel, which seemed a more appropriate venue for that response. If you are interested, you can view it at: https://logs.sylnt.us
[00:19:03] <Bytram> https://www.youtube.com
[00:19:28] <Bytram> T-8:00
[00:20:07] <Bytram> T-7:30
[00:20:23] <Bytram> T-7:00
[00:20:26] <Bytram> oops
[00:20:30] <Bytram> T-7:00
[00:20:37] <Bytram> =yt https://www.youtube.com
[00:21:01] <Bytram> T-6:30
[00:21:10] <Bytram> Crew-1 Mission
[00:21:30] <Bytram> T-6:00
[00:22:00] <Bytram> T-5:30
[00:22:30] <Bytram> T-5:00 -- onboard count begins
[00:22:48] <Bytram> internal power
[00:23:00] <Bytram> T-4:30
[00:23:33] <Bytram> T-4:00
[00:24:00] <Bytram> T-3:30
[00:24:30] <Bytram> T-3:00
[00:24:50] <Bytram> terminal count
[00:25:00] <Bytram> T-2:30
[00:25:16] <AzumaHazuki> it's nice to see things like this still happening
[00:25:30] <Bytram> T-2:00
[00:25:35] <Bytram> agreed!!!!
[00:26:00] <Bytram> T-1:30
[00:26:30] <Bytram> T-1:00
[00:26:58] <Bytram> gofor launch
[00:26:58] <Fnord666> Here we go!
[00:27:01] <Bytram> T-0:30
[00:27:10] <Bytram> T-0:20
[00:27:20] <Bytram> T-0:10
[00:27:30] <Bytram> 0
[00:27:30] <Runaway1956> But - it's DARK and I don't see headlights on that truck
[00:27:35] <Bytram> ignition
[00:27:38] <Bytram> liftoff!
[00:28:08] <Bytram> stage 1 propulsion is nominal
[00:28:31] <Fnord666> Funny things is how many people now know what Max-Q is.
[00:28:49] <Bytram> maxq
[00:30:24] <Bytram> sage sep
[00:31:38] <Bytram> trajectiory nominal
[00:31:49] <Bytram> bermuda
[00:32:33] <Bytram> trajectiory nominal
[00:32:39] <Runaway1956> internet is full of vacuum and sucking bad tonight
[00:32:48] <FatPhil> halibut: I prefer my 1-line debunking of the fraud claims, because I don't believe loons are worth wasting as much effort on as you've put in!
[00:32:58] <Fnord666> Are they covering the docking at ISS?
[00:33:13] <Bytram> about a day from now
[00:33:31] <Fnord666> Cool
[00:33:37] <Bytram> trajectory still nominal
[00:33:54] <Bytram> originally, would have been an 8 hour trip
[00:33:59] <Fnord666> Do they have to do a hop via a transfer orbit?
[00:34:18] <Bytram> after the postponement, is 25+ jours IIRC
[00:34:30] <Fnord666> oof
[00:34:39] <Bytram> diapers++
[00:34:39] <Bender> karma - diapers: 1
[00:35:06] <Fnord666> 2.5G accelerator on the crew at this point
[00:35:22] <Fnord666> S/accelerator/acceleration/
[00:35:22] <Bytram> 2.5G of acceleration for the crew
[00:36:18] <Bytram> it got to 120 mile altitude in 7.5 minutes
[00:36:28] <Bytram> maybe less
[00:36:41] <Bytram> mvac shutdown
[00:36:55] <Bytram> nominal orbit insertion
[00:37:10] <FatPhil> oooh, talk dirty to me, rocketman
[00:37:12] <Fnord666> Nailed it
[00:37:17] <Bytram> bppster lamdmg good
[00:37:25] <Bytram> spelling bad! :D
[00:37:45] <Runaway1956> creative spelling
[00:38:24] <Bytram> what are they going to use for a zero-G indicator?
[00:38:29] <Fnord666> Shouldn't they be in 0G at this point?
[00:38:37] <Bytram> yes
[00:39:00] <Fnord666> There we go. Almost lost his checklist card.
[00:39:06] <Bytram> yep!
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[00:39:43] <Bytram> dragon separation
[00:39:52] <Bytram> woo hoo!
[00:40:25] <Runaway1956> space nuts, lol
[00:42:29] <Bytram> nosecone hooks opening up
[00:43:15] <Fnord666> That's a millennial thing right?
[00:43:27] <Fnord666> Some sort of piercing?
[00:43:57] <Bytram> so that the nosecone can be deployed
[00:44:13] <Bytram> arrive about 11 PM EST
[00:44:25] <Bytram> I think
[00:44:32] <Fnord666> And they are staying live until then
[00:44:42] <Fnord666> And yes 11pm tomorrow for docking
[00:44:47] <Bytram> k
[00:44:55] <Bytram> what was the new link?
[00:45:13] <Fnord666> The SpaceX link is what I am watching and I think that one is staying live
[00:45:29] <Bytram> ah, got it.
[00:45:59] <Fnord666> https://www.youtube.com
[00:46:55] * Bytram is currently watching: https://www.youtube.com
[00:47:09] <Fnord666> That capsule ingress looks so much like the Apollo capsules
[00:47:53] <Runaway1956> cheerleaders . . .
[00:47:59] <Fnord666> They are handing off coverage from the cape to a different location now
[00:48:15] <Fnord666> Johnson Space Center for the next while at least
[00:48:30] <Bytram> Coast Phase: https://youtu.be
[00:48:36] <Bytram> https://youtu.be
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[00:49:35] <Bytram> =enable titles
[00:49:41] <Bytram> https://youtu.be
[00:49:49] <Bytram> =yt https://youtu.be
[00:50:17] <Bytram> did we lose the bot?
[00:50:20] <Bytram> =notes
[00:50:26] <Bytram> =blame
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[00:50:34] <Bytram> yep, looks so. :/
[00:57:08] * Runaway1956 points at Bytram
[00:57:23] <Runaway1956> but you gotta keep your own notes
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[01:13:45] <Bytram> lol
[01:25:34] <Fnord666> ~blame
[01:36:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Says Hackers from Russia and North Korea Attacked COVID-19 Vaccine Makers - https://sylnt.us - so-more-than-50%?
[01:46:58] <c0lo> https://www.npr.org
[01:46:58] <systemd> ^ 03Thousands Of Cars Line Up At One Texas Food Bank As Job Losses Hit Hard
[01:49:48] <carny> good think we're importing millions of low wage workers to further drive down wages and make it even harder for people to find jobs that fully pay their bills
[01:50:15] <carny> that's the proper pro-worker leftist position isn't it?
[01:50:29] <carny> help the koch brothers make more profits?
[01:50:52] <carny> i'm sure i read something about that in one of karl marx's works
[01:51:30] <carny> if trump wins there will be no wall and continued illegal immigration
[01:51:46] <carny> if biden wins there will be no wall and even more continued illegal immigration
[01:52:37] <c0lo> Mexicans not gonna come to the rescue this time. I mean, morgues are too cold https://twitter.com
[01:52:38] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter ( https://mobile.twitter.com )
[01:54:32] * AzumaHazuki wonders if carny and people like him ever consider they have much more in common with those low wage workers than the people importing them...
[01:55:06] <AzumaHazuki> because, newsflash: the ones importing the low-wage workers, to your detriment, want you and them fighting. that way you're both distracted from the real root of evil
[02:01:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> emo fans?
[02:01:57] <c0lo> Stop stealing masks https://www.pnj.com
[02:02:00] <systemd> ^ 03PPD: Trump supporter 'snatched' mask off woman's face at weekend rally, charged with battery
[02:02:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> weird. tvs are okay but masks aren't? ima need a list.
[02:03:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> good thing the cop had jumper cables i guess. or did the guy have a cigarette lighter cord?
[02:04:17] <c0lo> "touch me, touch me" https://www.tmz.com
[02:06:27] <c0lo> Isn't it wierd when you search for "Biden supporter arrested" for the last week to find a full list of "Trump supporter arrested"? It's like Google algos are borken.
[02:06:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt touch-a touch-a touch me
[02:06:56] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- Toucha, Toucha, Touch Me - Rocky Horror Picture Show
[02:08:24] <Runaway1956> I always back my truck over top of people who want to steal my flags
[02:08:41] <c0lo> https://www.google.com
[02:08:42] <systemd> ^ 03biden supporter arrested - Google Search
[02:08:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> broken as intended. i was trying to search something from months ago up about biden for a dumb sniffing joke or some such and got nothing but anti-trump results on the first three pages
[02:09:05] <c0lo> Is giving the bird to your flags stealing now?
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[02:09:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't think so but if bird poop was involved it could be called vandalism
[02:10:22] <Runaway1956> close enough c0lo, you can never be sure unless you nuke from orbit
[02:10:29] <c0lo> Hey, you have your boobies TFA submission, why do you want more birds?
[02:10:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt surfin bird
[02:10:47] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- The Trashmen - Surfin Bird - Bird is the Word 1963 (RE-MASTERED) (ALT End Video) (OFFICIAL VIDEO)
[02:10:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> ^^
[02:11:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> reminds me... gettin to be time to watch full metal jacket again
[02:14:01] <Runaway1956> supermassive magnetar?
[02:14:22] <Runaway1956> We should have put a stop to that super nonsense when Superman showed up all those decades ago
[02:15:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> i dunno, supergirl, superboy, krypto... they can all eat a kryptonite sammich but powergirl was da bomb.
[02:15:34] <c0lo> Meh, some say S/M is about STEM, some say it's about having fun.
[02:16:02] <c0lo> I can't see either of those.
[02:16:42] * Runaway1956 sighs
[02:16:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> c0lo, you need x-ray vision
[02:16:57] <Runaway1956> all this excitement all around the country, and I live in Arkansas
[02:17:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> where a first cousin's all the excitement you'll ever need...
[02:17:24] <Runaway1956> Arkansans have enough sense not to argue over two idiots who both want the same damned chair
[02:17:47] <Runaway1956> certainly don't drive their trucks over each other
[02:18:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> should have just left the music playing and seen how long they'd keep walking around it
[02:21:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> always appreciated how they started that movie with straight to the scalp clipper haircuts
[02:29:35] <c0lo> Only some Arkansans have less sense to argue with NY pharmacists, eh?
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[02:52:22] <AzumaHazuki> https://wisconsinexaminer.com whoopsie!
[02:52:24] <systemd> ^ 03Billionaire GOP donors who fought Evers’ public health measures contract COVID-19 - Wisconsin Examiner
[02:54:09] <c0lo> Cascading failures https://www.nbcnews.com
[02:54:10] <systemd> ^ 03Covid-19 forces man to travel miles from home for emergency surgery
[02:55:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> physics forced us to do that out in OK
[02:56:43] <lld> there's that story of premature babies dying because of covid travel restrictions, does that count?
[02:59:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> not sure. never heard of a premature baby driving but then the world's a pretty wacky place
[02:59:49] <c0lo> lld, how many?
[03:00:25] <c0lo> https://www.press-citizen.com
[03:00:26] <systemd> ^ 03'The whole region is in a bit of a crisis': Officials say just 2 of 17 southeast Iowa hospitals currently have open ICU beds
[03:01:10] <AzumaHazuki> trump and his merry band of sociological arsonists are mass murderers because of this
[03:01:55] <AzumaHazuki> and it's people like me who face the risks and end up suffering for it if we get unlucky
[03:02:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, sure, it's entirely about you.
[03:02:42] <c0lo> https://covidactnow.org sort by "ICU headroom used". Currently, Oklahoma and Montana show as run out of them.
[03:02:43] <systemd> ^ 03America’s COVID warning system.
[03:03:06] <AzumaHazuki> eat all the dicks, Uzzard. I'm one of the people working on the front lines saving lives
[03:03:11] <AzumaHazuki> you? what do you do?
[03:03:26] <carny> c0lo: that couldn't have anything to do with the healtcare industry's past 40 years of history could it?
[03:03:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> feed you
[03:03:52] <carny> it has to be the past 4 years of a guy who doesn't know or do much of anything about healthcare
[03:04:11] <AzumaHazuki> yeah right. you knock up shitty construction for a living and drink yourself into alcoholic cirrhosis
[03:04:34] <c0lo> TMB's making extra room for the religious services required after Christmas.
[03:04:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> nope, i code poultry automation software at the moment. construction is non-paying for myself.
[03:05:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> and i drink about five shots a month
[03:05:08] <AzumaHazuki> ...see i was about to say you're too chicken to work in a hospital and then you say that
[03:05:33] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[03:05:39] <c0lo> Hey, 'Zumi, honest work is honest work.
[03:05:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> i've worked for hospitals before. it don't bug me none.
[03:06:00] <AzumaHazuki> not in the middle of a pandemic
[03:06:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> a pandemic that i'm on record not being remotely scared of? yeah, that'd make all kinds of difference.
[03:06:34] <AzumaHazuki> yeah, i know, ignorance is bliss
[03:06:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> keep goin though, one of these days you might get something right by accident
[03:07:00] <AzumaHazuki> tell you what, why don't you go to the nearest hospital and volunteer your services? and explicitly tell them you don't need PPE
[03:07:12] <AzumaHazuki> since, you know, you ain't a-skeert-a no virus
[03:07:16] <c0lo> Yes, in the middle of a pandemic too.
[03:07:48] <AzumaHazuki> they'll have to learn how to shove a ventilator down a vulture's crooked beak inside of 2 months is my wager :D
[03:08:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause i got better things to do mostly. want in that church by christmas.
[03:08:17] <AzumaHazuki> hah. you're yellow
[03:08:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> you'd wager wrong
[03:08:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoker, not vitamin deficient, and under 50. i've got basicly zero risk of anything but a cold and nearly a 50/50 shot of nothing at all.
[03:09:37] <AzumaHazuki> so? the statistics don't account for individual cases. no one says you won't go sliding off the bell curve
[03:10:07] <AzumaHazuki> young people, healthy people, sicken and die from this. if you're so confident, go on and risk yourself
[03:10:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> why?
[03:10:29] <AzumaHazuki> 'cause you talk a lot of shit and it's time you put your money where your beak is
[03:10:32] <c0lo> Because 'Zumi got a high horse this evening.
[03:10:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> bullshit. young people dying from this are almost as rare as lottery winners.
[03:10:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> as opposed to all the rest of the time?
[03:11:11] * TheMightyBuzzard looks for hydraulics on the horse
[03:11:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt lowrider
[03:11:15] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- Cypress Hill - Lowrider (Official Music Video)
[03:11:58] <AzumaHazuki> ah, fuck it. i've even got worst-case scenario plans, as always. i'm worrying too much about this
[03:11:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> zumi, i ain't a kid. i got nothing to prove to some twit on the internet. i know who i am.
[03:12:08] <AzumaHazuki> yeah, so do the rest of us
[03:12:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> really? ya been wrong on every guess tonight
[03:12:25] <c0lo> This one I do like https://soylentnews.org
[03:12:27] <AzumaHazuki> sure, sure
[03:12:28] <systemd> ^ 03These Stanford Students are Racing to Get Laptops to Kids Around the U.S. Who Most Need Them – TechC: SoylentNews Submission
[03:13:24] <AzumaHazuki> previous point still stands: you talk a lot of shit for someone who isn't in harm's way. i'd love to see you back that empty wind up
[03:13:47] <AzumaHazuki> maybe you can load the stiffs into the wheelie-fridges
[03:15:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> i've already proven my bravery long since. here you sit whining about all your danger and calling me a coward though. projection.
[03:16:33] * AzumaHazuki rolls eyes so hard they ache
[03:16:53] <AzumaHazuki> and yet, i am the one on the front lines, just one short column away from the poor nurses who actually have to spend their entire days in these wards
[03:17:02] <AzumaHazuki> you will notice i'm not saying i want to quit or want out
[03:17:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, just whining.
[03:17:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> partial credit
[03:18:18] <AzumaHazuki> that was weak :)
[03:19:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> because you got partial credit, duh. i ain't so insecure that i need to insult you to build myself up. i just do it when it's warranted.
[03:19:29] <AzumaHazuki> sure, Uzzard
[03:19:41] <AzumaHazuki> sit tight and i'll get you a juice box and a participation trophy
[03:20:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> something makes me not trust apple juice from you. i can't put my finger on what though.
[03:20:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++ #smoke break
[03:20:48] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 793
[03:21:02] <AzumaHazuki> that was even weaker
[03:31:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> gotta say something interesting if you want to keep me distracted enough to skip a smoke break.
[03:32:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> practice up tonight if you like. bedtime for me though.
[03:33:08] <AzumaHazuki> yeah, yeah
[03:46:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Chandra Finds Hot Bubble in Planetary Nebula IC 4593 - https://sylnt.us - the-bubbly
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[04:18:23] <lld> c0lo: don't know, they weren't my babies, but I can see how things slip through the cracks with an unresponsive bureaucracy
[04:18:27] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.oann.com
[04:18:29] <systemd> Submitting "China’s factory output beats forecasts as Asia shakes off COVID slump"...
[04:18:51] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03China’s Factory Output Beats Forecasts as Asia Shakes Off COVID Slump" (2 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[04:19:32] <Runaway1956> Oh, FFS - 'zumi is getting a hero complex? All the while mocking those of us who have served in the past? ROFLMAO
[04:20:09] <lld> I wish I could get US citizenship by enrolling in the US military
[04:20:21] <Runaway1956> That used to be something of a thing lld
[04:20:31] <Runaway1956> but, it appears to have been trashed
[04:20:39] <lld> yep
[04:21:00] <Runaway1956> I figure if some dumbass from bumfuck nowhere serves for 20 years, he's entitled
[04:21:17] <lld> I doubt they need a lot of nerds
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[04:21:25] <Runaway1956> I don't know where I woul dplace the lower limit -
[04:21:58] <Runaway1956> nerds are good, if you do nuclear physics, Navy will snatch your ass up in a heartbeat
[04:22:24] <lld> nah, computer engineering nerd, but I'm wiling to take up nuclear physics
[04:22:36] <lld> computer/E&E nerd
[04:23:06] <Runaway1956> I don't know where the Navy is on computer nerds today - not like it was 30 years ago
[04:23:28] <Runaway1956> if you could do 'hello world' they wanted to talk to you
[04:23:46] <lld> besides programming at work, my only passion right now is modding the videogames I play
[04:23:57] <lld> play it the way I want it, do everything yourself
[04:24:06] * Runaway1956 likes god mode
[04:24:24] <lld> depends, god mode can get boring if there aren't anything at risk
[04:24:38] <Runaway1956> true
[04:24:47] <lld> it is also how I am picking up C#
[04:24:50] <Runaway1956> maybe superman mode
[04:24:58] <lld> fun language, but a pain to do it from Linux
[04:25:08] <lld> superman mode is fun if you also up the baddies
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[04:25:42] <lld> the Unity game engine has been getting rather popular lately
[04:26:03] <lld> it is eating up Unreal and Quake
[04:26:12] <chromas> Is it as good yet though?
[04:26:20] <lld> "good enough"
[04:26:41] <lld> you can attach something like Harmony and hack the game to hell
[04:26:57] <lld> runtime reflection and patching of functions in-memory
[04:27:21] <lld> or edit the CIL p-code through a transpiler
[04:27:47] <chromas> spiler alert
[04:27:56] <lld> older game used to tell you to replace binaries with hacked versions for extra features
[04:27:57] <Runaway1956> spider alert
[04:28:17] <lld> these days, just stick the extension library in and it'll patch the game at runtime
[04:28:42] <Runaway1956> huh, that's interesting
[04:28:51] <lld> and of course, you can easily stack different extension libraries, far easier than replacing game executables/files
[04:29:00] <lld> far better compatibility
[04:29:34] <lld> believe it or not, Unity is also eating into Ren'Py space
[04:29:34] <Runaway1956> you just copy the library to C:/program files/blahblah?
[04:29:50] <lld> yeah, just copy it to a particular directory
[04:30:06] <lld> Harmony will look up the class/member/method to patch
[04:30:20] <lld> postfix/prefix/transpiler modes are available
[04:30:58] <Runaway1956> going back to newsfeed for a bit - see if anything exciting is happening
[04:31:07] <lld> so if the game logic did bool class::function(...) { if(something) return false; }
[04:31:19] <lld> you can still stick a postfix in to override the results
[04:31:56] <lld> postfix(..., bool ref __result ){ __result = do_mything(); }
[04:32:44] <lld> yeah Harmony itself will reflect on your postfix parameter names to determine what you are trying to achieve
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[04:33:51] <Runaway1956> Ahhhhh - Hermes, Got of the Turds
[04:33:59] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.9news.com.au
[04:34:00] <systemd> Submitting "Ancient sculpture discovered during sewage works in Athens, from 300 BC"...
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[04:35:09] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.nytimes.com
[04:35:11] <systemd> Submitting "To Scare Off Wild Bears, Japanese City Calls In the ‘Monster Wolf’"...
[04:35:30] <lld> Renpy is for 2D visual novel games, Unity is getting into that space too
[04:35:33] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03To Scare Off Wild Bears, Japanese City Calls in the ‘Monster Wolf’" (17 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[04:35:35] <lld> 3D can do 2D :)
[04:37:51] <Runaway1956> https://www.waynedupree.com
[04:37:51] <systemd> ^ 03[VIDEO] BLM Protester Pulls Knife on Trump Supporters and Gets Instantly Walloped By Karma
[04:39:44] <Runaway1956> https://www.thegatewaypundit.com
[04:39:44] <systemd> ^ 03BREAKING: Michigan House Member Files to Impeach Governor Gretchen Whitmer
[04:51:29] <chromas> gake noose
[04:51:31] <chromas> s/g/f/
[04:51:31] <SedBot> <chromas> fake noose
[04:51:49] <Runaway1956> https://nypost.com
[04:51:50] <systemd> ^ 03When talk of ‘unity’ just means ‘surrender’
[04:53:17] <Runaway1956> https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com
[04:53:18] <systemd> ^ 03Governor who ignored nightly riots in Portland threatens jail time for "large parties"
[04:53:41] <chromas> Indoor protests
[04:58:47] <Runaway1956> many kids have run away from Iowa to go to NYC
[04:58:53] <Runaway1956> https://nypost.com
[04:58:54] <systemd> ^ 03Missing Brooklyn kids found speeding 1,200 miles away in Iowa
[04:59:17] <Runaway1956> I guess that's the new counter culture?
[05:03:37] <Runaway1956> https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com
[05:03:38] <systemd> ^ 03Report: Biden cancer charity spent millions on salaries, none on research
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[05:41:14] <lld> Runaway1956: join my riot party
[05:45:59] <aristarchus_> Time for all the boogerloo poor boys to take a step back into reality, and just be bigoted Republicans, again.
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[07:40:55] <c0lo> https://www.forbes.com
[07:40:57] <systemd> ^ 03Trump Covid-19 Coronavirus Advisor Scott Atlas Appears On Russian Propaganda TV, Then Apologizes
[07:42:05] <c0lo> https://www.foxnews.com
[07:42:06] <systemd> ^ 03Trump adviser clarifies 'rise up' tweet against Michigan COVID-19 orders
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[08:47:49] <c0lo> https://www.smh.com.au
[08:47:51] <systemd> ^ 03Donald Trump's campaign drops key claim in Philadelphia ballot lawsuit
[08:54:25] <c0lo> It's about this one https://www.democracydocket.com
[09:01:33] <c0lo> Yeah, in short, as of now, the suit is "Ds worked to cure their mail-in ballots, Rs chose to give a fuck. Rs now ask the court to invalidate cured Dems ballots"
[09:04:29] <c0lo> The Boris back in rona isolation https://twitter.com
[09:04:31] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter ( https://mobile.twitter.com )
[09:23:38] <FatPhil> Using Pug logic, 90% of the pug fraud claims that have been proven have been proven bullshit. What are the chances that all of the remaining fraud claims are true? Statistically impossible!!!! Therefore even more are false.... Lather, rinse, repeat...
[09:35:35] <FatPhil> They really should be suing the counties that didn’t allow (voters) to make corrections,” Levine said.
[09:36:09] <FatPhil> Hahha! Pugs need to be suing pug counties for election deficiencies - nice one!
[09:37:13] <chromas> Try rottie logic
[09:37:20] <chromas> or shepherd
[09:40:58] <FatPhil> are pugs better at herding sheeple?
[09:41:24] <FatPhil> the evidence is unconvincing
[10:16:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - GM Recalls 68,000 Electric Chevy Bolts Over Battery Fire Concerns - https://sylnt.us - Anyone-have-any-marshmallows?
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[10:29:44] <aristarchus_> chromas has gone to the dogs.
[10:33:10] <AzumaHazuki> but...who let the dogs out?
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[10:43:01] <FatPhil> did someone poodle their pants?
[10:51:25] <FatPhil> dafuq my moddles gone? Someone posted garbage on the internet, and needs to be punished!
[10:52:50] <AzumaHazuki> now there is a never-ending task
[10:53:03] <AzumaHazuki> entropy being what it is, it's easier to shit on the carpet than clean shitstains out of the carpet
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[10:56:53] <FatPhil> this AC needs some +1's, and Bot needs his touche countered. I'm a crypto nerd, so this really annoys me: https://soylentnews.org
[10:56:54] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | Let's Encrypt is too easy ( https://soylentnews.org )
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[12:54:32] <carny> https://youtube.com
[12:54:34] <systemd> ^ 03The US Military Has Raided And Seized Servers In Germany Tied To The Dominion Election System ( https://www.youtube.com )
[12:56:37] <carny> i've been a student of propaganda for years and have understood the mechanics of psychological manipulation such as advertising and marketing for decades
[12:57:23] <carny> the past 2 weeks has made me feel like an ignorant child with the sheer volume and intensity of the manipulation going on
[12:58:05] <carny> it completely overwhelmed me with disinformation and i believed it despite the fact that i should know better
[12:58:15] <carny> hell i do know better
[12:58:28] <FatPhil> US Military? That would be an act of war!
[12:58:34] <FatPhil> Against a NATO country.
[12:58:52] <FatPhil> The US is now obliged to defend NATO by attacking itself.
[12:58:54] <carny> FatPhil: have any sources of military gossip?
[12:59:20] <carny> ask them about all the 'this smells a lot like war preparations' stuff going on
[13:00:22] <FatPhil> I know no-one with any connections here.
[13:00:59] <carny> as far as the usa attacking germany i think a case could be made that they owe us so much from non-payment of nato expenditures that the us military is simply taking possession of a small fraction of what it already owns ;]
[13:02:20] <carny> you should be close enough to russia to get some juicy gossip from locals about what the russian military is up to
[13:02:51] <carny> estonia used to be quite worried about the potential for russian invasion a la georgia and eastern ukraine
[13:03:22] <carny> but i haven't bothered to keep up with anything going on in estonia since that's your job now ;]
[13:03:33] <FatPhil> ?!?!?!? The US underpays, and Germany overpays.
[13:03:46] <carny> for defense spending?
[13:03:57] <carny> can you hear that sound?
[13:04:07] <FatPhil> No, for NATO
[13:04:25] <carny> it's a large number of millionaires and billionaires who got rich from american defense spending laughing at you ;]
[13:04:34] <FatPhil> Which means as a ratio of your defence spending - you really really really really underpay for NATO
[13:04:45] <carny> that's absurd
[13:04:50] <FatPhil> you pay
[13:05:55] <FatPhil> ~$1.30/adult/year?
[13:06:30] <carny> the only possible way you can accuse the usa of underpaying for nato is if you exclude 100% of the us military's r&d budget and write off all nato country troop deployments as mere unrelated 'foreign service'
[13:06:37] <FatPhil> Unless I've miscalculated, Germany pays ~$4/adult/year.
[13:07:41] <FatPhil> I'm going by NATO's own figures about total costs of staff+operations+systems - i.e. everything.
[13:08:47] <carny> every time the us military creates or revamps another nato standard like 5.56 ammunition or a mobile comms handset we spend billions and billions
[13:08:58] <FatPhil> Ach, fuck adultness, US pays ~1.35/body/year
[13:09:33] <carny> right well there's a reason why trump made enemies of most of europe's military command when he started saying the unspeakable
[13:09:45] <carny> nato's own figures are pure lies
[13:10:17] <FatPhil> well, if the person who's billing you is lying, you don't pay more, do you!??!?
[13:10:41] <carny> you do if you're in america and you make money on a 'cost plus' basis
[13:11:02] <carny> that's also why most of the military industrial complex over here hates trump
[13:11:18] <carny> he's been shaking the gravy train since before he took office
[13:11:58] <FatPhil> and precisely how does that apply to the Germans?
[13:11:59] <carny> he hasn't done much to reform it of course but the existing leeches don't appreciate any of trump's new leeches getting in on their blood supply
[13:12:45] <carny> it means that the current detente must be maintained so that all the leeches from every country can continue feeding undisturbed
[13:13:34] <carny> and trump saw an opportunity to claw back a huge amount of cash to inflate his domestic budget numbers
[13:14:35] <carny> plow some of that into a tax cut with his name on it and magically he has the support of a few million voters who don't remember anything except 'i got a thousand dollars back'
[13:14:42] <FatPhil> I'm not denying there's not nice fat porky corruption on both sides of the atlantic, but you do perhaps have the upper hand as experts in that game.
[13:14:55] <carny> absolutely
[13:15:01] <carny> we have all the best warmongers
[13:15:10] <carny> nobody beats our warmongers
[13:15:38] <carny> the united states makes the best wars in the world
[13:15:41] <carny> etc
[13:16:21] <carny> anyway it's interesting that 'the us military' is going after servers instead of the fbi + state dept
[13:22:28] <FatPhil> It's interesting how you believe an talking head on a known highly-biased "news" source who repeats tweets...
[13:22:33] <FatPhil> https://apnews.com
[13:22:34] <systemd> ^ 03False reports claim election servers were seized in Germany
[13:39:11] <c0lo> (and... the carny silence is defeaning. How can it be? That simple stupid error of not checking the starting assumptions?)
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[13:40:22] <SoyCow8236> =asub https://www.forbes.com
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[14:01:15] <carny> FatPhil: i thought by now you knew that i normally operate on a non-binary spectrum of belief
[14:03:21] <carny> republican congressmen usually start off a bit higher than democrats on the realibility scale and although gomert is a blow hard he's also plugged into all sorts of military and intel sources
[14:08:39] <FatPhil> ... and apparently has shorted out.
[14:10:38] <carny> you have a source that contradicts the raid story?
[14:12:07] <carny> trump has sent out a bunch of tweets already this morning and quite a few of them are about his legal team's efforts
[14:12:52] <carny> my point is that the level of anti-trump gaslighting propaganda is so intense that even deeply mistrusting cynics like myself can be fooled by it
[14:13:58] <carny> for example supposedly 'conservative' talking heads putting out the story that the trump legal team has withdrawn from or lost almost all of its cases
[14:13:59] <FatPhil> at the moment, the gaslighting seems to be all by trumpists.
[14:14:10] <carny> ah i see
[14:14:20] <FatPhil> they're the ones who keep on having to retract their lies when they are proved wrong.
[14:14:21] <carny> you're believing it too
[14:15:15] <FatPhil> I believe the republican staff lawyers who say things like "there was no exivence for the claims previously made by Republican representatives, so we're withdrawing the allegation", yes.
[14:15:37] <FatPhil> That supports my narrative of "bunch of shitnozzles" quite well.
[14:15:41] <Bytram> =g Scytl "Fact Checking Regarding US Elections: Debunking Fake News"
[14:15:41] <systemd> https://www.scytl.com - Fact Checking Regarding US Elections: Debunking Fake News | Scytl
[14:16:12] <FatPhil> Bytram: yeah, but *they* would say *that*, wouldn't they!
[14:16:36] <FatPhil> They're in on the conspiracy, didn't you get carny's memo?
[14:17:33] <carny> isn't scytl the company that proactively declared bankruptcy because they're in the middle of the dominion scandal?
[14:18:03] <carny> i think it was some of their servers that were seized
[14:18:23] <carny> so of course we should believe them completely
[14:18:40] <carny> after all they used the word 'debunking' so it must be true ;]
[14:19:07] <carny> let's ask snopes.com for confirmation since they never ever lie
[14:22:28] <carny> i guess naming your company after an archaic word for a tool of secrecy might be a bit of a give-away that you don't generally operate your elections services with complete transparency
[14:26:33] <Bytram> cannot prove a negative
[14:26:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Climate Scientists Debunk 'Point of No Return' Paper Everyone's Freaking Out About - https://sylnt.us - thawing-v.-melting
[14:27:10] <Bytram> IOW you make the claim... YOU prove it, it is not up to us to disprove it.
[14:30:58] <carny> here's a solidly leftist source https://twitter.com
[14:30:59] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter ( https://mobile.twitter.com )
[14:32:08] <carny> and that voter integrity activist bennie smith is a registered democrat and election official of some flavor
[14:40:49] <FatPhil> So who's the target of your allegation - Scytl or Dominion - you need to get your story straight first, otherwise you look like you're just flailing.
[15:08:38] <Runaway1956_> =submit https://thenextweb.com
[15:08:40] <systemd> Submitting "Apple defends the role of Gatekeeper after users can’t open Mac apps"...
[15:09:02] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Apple Defends the Role of Gatekeeper After Users Can’t Open Mac Apps" (16 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[15:09:21] <Runaway1956_> hypothesis for you fatphil
[15:09:41] <Runaway1956_> maybe the NeverTrump republicans are throwing the election to get rid of Trump
[15:10:03] <Runaway1956_> As a whole, the R party has made some pretty good gains this election
[15:10:48] <Runaway1956_> I'm not very happy with any of the mud or shit slinging surrounding the election, it all smells bad
[15:20:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> Runaway1956_, sorry, that was me. it's nearly time for my morning constitutional.
[15:20:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[15:20:54] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5389
[15:32:33] <FatPhil> -> #US_Election
[15:34:23] <Runaway1956_> lol
[15:34:33] <Runaway1956_> =submit https://reclaimthenet.org
[15:34:35] <systemd> Submitting "Lauded ACLU lawyer wants to stop the circulation of book that documents kids who regret transitioning"...
[15:34:56] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08Lauded ACLU Lawyer Wants to Stop the Circulation of Book That Documents Kids Who Regret Transitionin" (16 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[15:41:44] <FatPhil> #BurnAllBooks
[15:42:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> can't. my burner was ata and this new motherboard only has sata and m.2
[15:46:19] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: No problemo! Just burn 'em on your old computer!
[15:46:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> me, i love how these idiots think it's perfectly okay for someone to make radically life altering decisions about hormones or surgery but not smoking, drinking, polish dancing, or getting a tattoo
[15:47:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, no, i like my old computer
[15:48:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> i needs moar nicotine
[15:48:20] <Bytram> two shay!
[15:52:07] <Runaway1956_> =submit https://www.rt.com
[15:52:09] <systemd> Submitting "'Tracking must not be the rule': Activist group files complaints against Apple over alleged breach of European privacy laws"...
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[15:54:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, ima enjoy the shit outa today. got a day off from church work on account of TR being on the road.
[15:56:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> fully plan on doing fuck all besides readin a book, having a nap in a hot bath, and playin video games
[16:03:22] <FatPhil> Runaway1956_: the linked-to article is a good read: https://quillette.com
[16:03:23] <systemd> ^ 03Gender Activists Are Trying to Cancel My Book. Why is Silicon Valley Helping Them?
[16:07:19] <Runaway1956_> Ugh - my offspring knows how to be disgusting
[16:07:45] <Runaway1956_> did dishes, found a cooler chest sitting around
[16:08:15] <Runaway1956_> open it up, looks like they had a campout or picnic months ago, and threw all their cooking and eating gear in the cooler and left it
[16:08:20] <Runaway1956_> ugh!
[16:14:12] <c0lo> So, you didn't do the dishes any time ever since a months ago? If so, there were some considerations on the distance an apple falls from the tree, the rule of thumb wasn't in the high range.
[16:14:56] <Runaway1956_> Actually, the cooler has been dragged into the house recently - probably last night - and left sitting between the washroom and the kitchen
[16:15:33] <Runaway1956_> God knows where it has sat since it was used - mud, mold, and disgusting matter stuck to almost everything
[16:18:11] <Runaway1956_> good article fatphil
[16:18:57] <Runaway1956_> My take on the issue is - no one should be undergoing any procedures of that nature until they reach the age of majority,
[16:19:02] <c0lo> You sure the cooler is your's/their's?
[16:19:28] <Runaway1956_> Nope, I don't know who the cooler belongs to, little green men could have left it sitting there
[16:19:37] <c0lo> (meh, I should go to sleep)
[16:20:02] <Runaway1956_> might be your cooler - describe it and you can come pick itup
[16:24:14] <Runaway1956_> =submit https://www.firstpost.com
[16:24:16] <systemd> Submitting "Facebook launches Vanish Mode on Messenger and Instagram: How it works- Technology News, Firstpost"...
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[16:25:10] <Runaway1956_> "Post your most embarrasing moments on Facebook, and we'll make them disappear sometime, SUCKER!"
[16:35:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scalper-Bots Shake Down Desperate PS5, Xbox Series X Shoppers - https://sylnt.us - supply-and-demand
[17:00:36] <carny> Runaway1956_: a never trumper i follow fits perfectly into your theory
[17:01:10] <carny> he is using all his influence to convince trump supporters that trump's legal team is either losing or withdrawing all their motions
[17:01:20] <carny> which is completely untrue
[17:01:57] <carny> https://twitter.com
[17:01:58] <FatPhil> Runaway1956_: this is what garden hoses are for - take it outside and crank the pressure up
[17:01:58] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter ( https://mobile.twitter.com )
[17:06:15] <carny> FatPhil: skip the first two minutes https://www.youtube.com
[17:06:16] <systemd> ^ 03REVEALED: Sworn Evidence Of Pervasive Voter Fraud
[17:07:21] <carny> and i'm going to assume you're drinking rather than believe that you are incapable of imagining more than one organization being involved in a nation wide election fraud where billions of dollars are spent ;]
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[17:12:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> carny, it's not a binary choice
[17:14:12] <carny> ;]
[17:14:25] <carny> but i know he's smarter than that
[17:15:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> i can be right about five things, wrong about one, and drunk all at the same time
[17:15:07] <carny> even though he's stuck in the rut all math nerds start out in when they move into the realm of humint
[17:15:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> the one i'm wrong about is generally "this isn't going to be more painful than it's worth in the morning"
[17:17:33] <Runaway1956_> carny - in the absence of any news suggesting that Rs are making any gains, it's easy to believe that all the legal challenges are being blown apart
[17:18:22] <FatPhil> tempted to not even watch it, just because of the title. If that's sworn *testimony*, rather than *evidence*, you're getting a slap
[17:19:04] <carny> FatPhil: perhaps you're not familiar with us courts
[17:19:21] <carny> sworn testimony is evidence in election law
[17:20:36] <carny> and although he's overplaying his hand by releasing any of his strategy or position directly to the public ahead of trial he's a lawyer with more experience than half of the michigan bar put together
[17:20:59] <carny> so i'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt that he has plenty more up his sleeve
[17:21:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> fun fact, it's REQUIRED evidence in treason cases. no amount of physical evidence alone will do. there must be eye witness testimony.
[17:21:58] <carny> TheMightyBuzzard: what do you think about the legal position that because china may be involved in funding some of these operations that the election fraud is in fact treason?
[17:22:34] <FatPhil> well, his first "fact" repeats a known lie, so not gonna bother listening to any more, he's just poured petrol on himself and lit a match.
[17:23:26] <carny> i think the left would permanently lose their minds if someone like joe biden were convicted and executed for treason so it's probably to no one's benefit to even talk about
[17:23:34] <carny> FatPhil: what known lie?
[17:24:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think it's shaky as hell
[17:25:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> economic rivals != someone we're at war, even a cold one, with
[17:25:10] <carny> he's got a solid footing if he declares an insurection but i don't think he has the balls
[17:25:23] <FatPhil> Republican lawyers have acknowledged in a separate federal court proceeding that they had certified observers watching mail-in ballots being processed in Philadelphia. Governor Tom Wolf's administration has said that ballot watchers from all parties had observers throughout the process and that “any insinuation otherwise is a lie.”
[17:25:35] <FatPhil> That lie.
[17:26:06] <carny> well there's a position to be made that the wu flu was a biological attack on the united states and its citizens
[17:26:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> a bloody stupid one that'll fail miserably, but yeah
[17:26:27] <carny> FatPhil: are you joking?
[17:27:22] <FatPhil> Nope, why should I be?
[17:27:25] <carny> you have the gall to call me credulous and yet you believe a single word tom wolf says?
[17:27:50] <FatPhil> Which bit of "Republican lawyers" are you deliberately overlooking?
[17:27:52] <carny> if tom wolf told me it was raining 2 seconds after i heard thunder i wouldn't take his word for it
[17:28:19] <carny> who is quoting this alleged acknowledgement?
[17:28:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, the reps had to take them to court to be allowed to stand in a spot close enough to observe anything. the response to which was they were allowed to stand in that spot and the place they were counting was moved
[17:29:35] <FatPhil> that was from c0lo's link earlier, the SMH one.
[17:30:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> what i just said is a matter of public record though.
[17:31:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> shenanigans happened. carny just jumps on anything remotely critical without making sure it's not bloody ridiculous first
[17:31:57] <FatPhil> And here's WaPo's take: "Trump’s attorneys filed a revised version of the lawsuit, removing allegations that election officials violated the Trump campaign’s constitutional rights by limiting the ability of their observers to watch votes being counted."
[17:32:28] <FatPhil> i.e. the pugs are *undoing* their original claims, they're effectively saying they lied in their original claims.
[17:32:47] <FatPhil> Nobody fell for their gaslighting
[17:33:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> i prefer my chosen criticisms be solid. bloody stupid ones only harm the argument you're trying to make.
[17:33:33] <carny> FatPhil: you obviously didn't click on the twitter link i shared right at the beginning of this thread or you'd know that smh story was utterly fake news
[17:35:24] <carny> removing the argument of 'please find for plaintiff because of constitutional right x being violated' from a complain that alleges hundreds of thousands of fraudulent ballots is not 'undoing their original claims'
[17:35:32] <carny> that's not how lawyers do things
[17:36:43] <carny> you're repeating the disingenuous statements of a never trumper election lawyer who knows that he's being disingenuous
[17:37:15] <FatPhil> so you're saying that trump's lawyers did not file a revised version of the lawsuit?
[17:37:57] <carny> just because a lawyer says 'your honor we are not claiming wide spread fraud' in front of a judge in order to kiss his butt does not mean that the case does not hinge on wide spread voter fraud
[17:38:23] <carny> anyone who has even the slightest experience with legal matters past reading wikipedia should know that
[17:38:57] <carny> i am saying that neither of us are privy to the trump legal team's internal planning sessions
[17:39:39] <carny> and if i happened to have a source who was involved in pennsylvania i damned sure wouldn't give anyone here advanced warning of their upcoming moves
[17:40:28] <carny> if you actually watched rudy's video you might get a better understanding of what their team is up to
[17:40:30] <Runaway1956_> fatphil I'm no lawyer, but I know that lawyers "revise" their shit all the time
[17:40:33] <carny> at least in michigan
[17:40:52] <FatPhil> city lawyers said the GOP representatives observing the counting could “see the entire set-up of the canvassing room” and could watch in detail every stage of the counting process.
[17:41:06] <FatPhil> A lawyer representing the Trump campaign also told a judge there have been representatives of the campaign who have observed the counting process.
[17:41:15] <FatPhil> This contradicts the original claims.
[17:41:19] <Runaway1956_> and the observers are obviously disputing the city's lawyers claims
[17:41:19] <carny> city lawyers who are full time staff for the democrat party?
[17:41:27] <carny> oh come on
[17:41:35] <carny> you're smarter than this
[17:41:39] <FatPhil> Runaway1956_: which bit of "A lawyer representing the Trump campaign" are you deliberately overlooking?
[17:42:12] <Runaway1956_> "a lawyer" isn't the Trump team, now is it?
[17:42:51] <Runaway1956_> I'm curious fatphil - how far away from a ballot can you stand, and still read it, with all the markings on it?
[17:43:08] <carny> how can you possibly conflate 'there have been representatives of thecampaign who have observed the counting process' to mean 'there were zero hours during the counting during which ballots entered via a back door and were counted in areas where republican observers were denied access and oversight'?
[17:43:22] <Runaway1956_> Ideally, I want that ballot like about 2 1/2 to 4 feet from my eyeballs
[17:43:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> awe.... horriblesubs shut down
[17:44:00] * TheMightyBuzzard sadfaces
[17:44:01] <carny> the whole point of this op is that counting just happened to stop nation wide at about the same time in every city then started back up again after huge numbers of biden-only ballots showed up
[17:44:14] <Runaway1956_> can we agree that six foot distance is less than ideal to read ballots and their markings?
[17:44:18] <FatPhil> Runaway1956_: it's not the observers' jobs to see the markings on the ballots, you've misunderstood what they're there for.
[17:44:34] <carny> which you yourself are fully qualified to observe in the data after the fact and i observed in real time that night
[17:44:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> Runaway1956_, another few years and i'm going to need them to be seven feet or more
[17:44:46] <Runaway1956_> Oh, so, if I can watch from fifty feet away, then all legal requirements are met
[17:44:58] <carny> FatPhil: false
[17:45:20] <FatPhil> carny: false
[17:45:31] <Runaway1956_> if observers aren't meant to see the ballots, then there is really no actual reason to have observers, is there?
[17:45:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> i already need things at nearly arm's length
[17:45:49] <carny> well we're going to find out who is right in court in the coming weeks
[17:46:12] <carny> i should probably stop talking about pennsylvania just to be on the safe side tho
[17:46:17] <Runaway1956_> no we won't find out who is "right", we will find out which legal team has the most stroke with the judges involved
[17:46:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, we're going to find out who has better lawyers and which way the judge leans politically. same as always.
[17:46:48] <FatPhil> Runaway1956_: false
[17:46:51] <carny> i mean we'll find out whether or not my statements are true or false
[17:46:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> Runaway1956_, my brother in cynicism
[17:47:07] <Runaway1956_> lolol
[17:47:27] <carny> i am confident in what i saw from the numbers as they came in to the reports of stoppages
[17:48:03] <carny> to the videos of the detroit convention center from an observer parked behind the 'delivery van'
[17:48:18] <Runaway1956_> I think it is also safe to say that we fall into two camps here
[17:48:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> i am confident that it's going to be a mildly entertaining shit show to hear about from The Roomie while smoking and drinking coffee
[17:48:22] <FatPhil> Any right to see the markings on the ballots would be extremely unusual, and therefore require extraordinary evidence (i.e. cite the state law for me), as by default observers should *NOT* have the right to count ballots, and if you can see the markings, you can do the counting.
[17:48:35] <Runaway1956_> those who want Biden to be prez, and those of us who don't trust Biden or his campaign
[17:48:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> fuck, i don't trust any of the bastards
[17:49:24] <Runaway1956_> Why, exactly, should observers NOT have the right to count, right along with everyone else in the room?
[17:49:32] <carny> Runaway1956_: what if i want biden to be president because i expect he will destroy the corrupt republican party in the progress but i also want election fraud to be punished?
[17:49:46] <carny> s/progress/process/
[17:49:46] <SedBot> <carny> Runaway1956_: what if i want biden to be president because i expect he will destroy the corrupt republican party in the process but i also want election fraud to be punished?
[17:50:18] <carny> Runaway1956_: they do FatPhil has obviously never participated in american elections
[17:50:30] <Runaway1956_> I guess you get your own little camp?
[17:50:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> carny, biden will destroy the republicans like gasoline destroys a brush fire
[17:51:59] <carny> TheMightyBuzzard: i think he needs trump's help but that may be happening
[17:52:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> carny, you have it backwards entirely. nothing biden could possibly do would do anything but energize republican voters. except govern as a moderate.
[17:52:54] <carny> if we're lucky we'll end up with a centrist party formed from the ashes of the republicans and a communist party that very few americans want anything to do with
[17:53:32] <Runaway1956_> Well, I could go with the "centrist" bit there
[17:53:43] <FatPhil> WOH - OK, I retract that, I've found a .gov link that shows that you can get your nose in.
[17:53:57] <carny> TheMightyBuzzard: that's the case today but things will be very different after 4 years of resentment of the harris adminisration
[17:54:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> not me. the middle between blue authoritarian asshats and red authoritarian asshats is still going to be authoritarian asshats
[17:54:43] <FatPhil> I don't know any country in Europe that lets you do that.
[17:55:03] <carny> now you see why i keep saying 'usa' and 'america' ;]
[17:55:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, ballots here contain no personally identifiable data.
[17:55:16] <Runaway1956_> Well I need to know what an "observer" is supposed to "observe" if he cannot see ballots
[17:55:34] <Runaway1956_> are observers supposed to be teats on a boar hog?
[17:55:55] <carny> FatPhil: if you had watched the video you'd also have a better idea of how the mail in ballots are supposed to work too
[17:56:08] <FatPhil> to observe that procedures and protocols are followed.
[17:56:24] <FatPhil> which does include things like darkenning light marks, etc.
[17:56:40] <carny> FatPhil: which requires them to see the ballots and their envelopes
[17:56:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> here they're also to observe that counters aren't counting by what they want instead of what they see
[17:56:56] <FatPhil> which is strange, as that would not be on the fast-path in the UK, or here.
[17:58:02] <Runaway1956_> https://www.ncsl.org
[17:58:04] <systemd> ^ 03Policies for Election Observers
[17:58:10] <FatPhil> so-called counters should be little more than collators, that's how it's done in (the only parts of) the UK (that I know of).
[17:58:43] <Runaway1956_> https://www.cartercenter.org
[17:58:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> i agree, but you need someone there to verify they're collating honestly instead of fictionally
[17:58:58] <FatPhil> absolutely
[17:59:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> like not putting kanye votes in the biden pile
[17:59:36] <FatPhil> but that's a very easy check, you can do pool testing.
[18:00:01] <FatPhil> it's the observer's job to highlight which pool he things needs checking.
[18:00:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes but that assumes you trust your poll workers. we don't, which is why we have observers.
[18:00:02] <Runaway1956_> that PDF page 29 is Penna
[18:01:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> crap, my coffee cup's empty. and for extra credit, so is my coffee pot.
[18:01:15] <Runaway1956_> not very informative though
[18:01:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> =blame
[18:01:18] * systemd points at Bytram
[18:01:21] <FatPhil> I found this: https://www.dol.gov
[18:01:42] <FatPhil> which is quite clear that they should be able to see the dots.
[18:01:52] <carny> the other thing that gaslit democrats don't understand is that the pennsylvania law has very strict requirements for mail in ballots
[18:01:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> department of labor for union voting.
[18:02:05] <Runaway1956_> The right to observe encompasses all phases of
[18:02:05] <Runaway1956_> the counting and tallying process. If there is more
[18:02:05] <Runaway1956_> than one voting place, the candidate may have an
[18:02:05] <Runaway1956_> observer at each location. If ballots are counted at
[18:02:05] <Runaway1956_> more than one location or at more than one table
[18:02:06] <Runaway1956_> at a single location, a candidate is entitled to as
[18:02:08] <Runaway1956_> many observers as necessary to observe the actual
[18:02:10] <Runaway1956_> counting of ballots.
[18:02:17] <FatPhil> yup, that's the para
[18:02:24] <carny> and it states in black letter law that if a judge tries to sever any clause the entire law is null and void
[18:02:36] <carny> which means all mail in ballots go into the trash
[18:02:51] <FatPhil> carny: by biggest complaint about PA was that they were changing the rules *after* some people had already voted. That's broken.
[18:03:08] <carny> blame tom wolf
[18:03:14] <carny> it's entirely his fault
[18:03:22] <Runaway1956_> Observers must be permitted to count and note
[18:03:22] <Runaway1956_> the names of voters and to observe each phase of
[18:03:22] <Runaway1956_> the voter eligibility verification process so that
[18:03:22] <Runaway1956_> they can confirm voter identity and eligibility
[18:03:22] <Runaway1956_> and, as appropriate, raise challenges with election
[18:03:23] <Runaway1956_> officials regarding voter eligibility.
[18:03:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> my biggest complaint about pa is it's too bloody cold up there. quite fond of the rocky movies though.
[18:04:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt eye of the tiger
[18:04:06] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- Survivor - Eye Of The Tiger (Official HD Video)
[18:04:14] <Runaway1956_> At the ballot count and the vote tally, observers
[18:04:14] <Runaway1956_> must be permitted to be close enough to see each
[18:04:14] <Runaway1956_> task being performed. For example, at the ballot
[18:04:14] <Runaway1956_> counting and tallying tables, observers must be
[18:04:14] <Runaway1956_> able to see how the ballots are being called and
[18:04:15] <Runaway1956_> how the votes are being recorded, totaled and
[18:04:17] <Runaway1956_> reported on the tally sheets.
[18:04:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake Runaway1956_
[18:04:25] * MrPlow smakes Runaway1956_ upside the head with a pay cut
[18:04:44] <Runaway1956_> So, basically, an observer should be able to see exactly the same things that the vote counters can see
[18:05:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> Runaway1956_, you're reading from a document on union voting. it has nothing to do with US elections.
[18:05:52] <Runaway1956_> Yes, and I'm still waiting for something that officially claims that local and federal votes are somehow less important than a union vote
[18:06:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> they're differently regulated for certain
[18:06:28] <Runaway1956_> for certain - still searching
[18:06:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> primarily since each state can have its own laws on it
[18:06:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> the feds have little to no say on the matter
[18:07:16] <carny> the feds can have a lot of say by throwing their weight around and being a huge pain in the ass
[18:07:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> not really. scotus would be obliged to slap anything like that down. it's not a vague line of demarcation.
[18:07:55] <carny> for example the senate can refuse to seat new senators if they don't like how the voting was conducted
[18:08:15] <carny> scotus can't touch certain actions like that one
[18:09:32] <carny> and since there are federal election laws coverning many aspects of the election they could send fbi to arrest people on the spot for all sorts of obvious or obscure reasons
[18:09:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> fraid they can. or at least they can make the senate follow the senate's stated rules.
[18:10:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> where the senate's rules conflict with the constitution though, the senate's rules can go fuck themselves.
[18:10:49] <carny> but the constitution also delegates authority to the senate for setting its own rules
[18:10:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> you know, i kinda wanna be vice president. NOT president, just vice. for one term.
[18:11:26] <carny> and as long as they don't conflict with the few sentences in the constitution they can run amok all they want
[18:11:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> just so i could sit up in the senate every day and annoy the shit out of everyone by not letting them have a pro tem president of the senate
[18:12:39] <carny> is everyone here aware of the potential republican strategy of dragging out the lawfare until december 15th?
[18:13:40] <carny> at that point the ballots for every state become moot and the question is put to singular state representatives
[18:13:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, if they can keep 270 votes from hitting the EC without legal challenge, trump wins
[18:14:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> goes to the house, what's in democratic control but then only one vote per state, which would be HEAVILY republican
[18:14:34] <carny> and it's something like a solid 30 out of 50 states are expected to vote for trump
[18:14:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> thirty six last i looked
[18:14:49] <carny> exactly
[18:15:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> pretty shitty way to do things though. i'm not a fan.
[18:15:17] <carny> well 30 or more solidly if you imagine a defectin or abstention here or there
[18:15:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> then again, i'm not a fan of having insecure by design voting machines
[18:15:56] <carny> i'd consider that just about the same level of gasoline on the fire as trump arresting biden tomorrow as far as leftist riots and insurgency goes
[18:16:04] <carny> i agree
[18:16:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh i don't give a fuck about what people think about it. i give a fuck that it invalidates people's votes.
[18:16:34] <carny> it might be a suitable punishment for getting caught with their hands in the cookie jar
[18:16:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> but so does having an entirely unbelievable voting system, so...
[18:17:10] <carny> well the argument would be that the people voted for donald trump and the states are enforcing their vote
[18:17:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> the argument would be full of shit. we have no idea who voted for what or how many times.
[18:17:47] <carny> throwing a red card and calling back the illegal goal so to speak
[18:18:11] <carny> well we do prior to 2am eastern time
[18:18:15] <Runaway1956_> Just for the record, I don't like any of it
[18:18:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> the absolute best we can do is count how many ballots were cast and for whom. we can't tell at all if any of them are valid or not.
[18:19:13] <carny> ok let me rephrase that and say that prior to 2am eastern time the amount of voter fraud was the usual level and donald trump was winning
[18:19:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> there's literally no way whatsoever to check if a ballot is valid
[18:19:17] <Runaway1956_> One corner of my mind says "whatever it takes to keep Biden out"
[18:19:23] <Runaway1956_> but the other corners don't agree
[18:19:40] <carny> so that includes all the illegals aliens who voted in person etc
[18:20:05] <Runaway1956_> Yes, we know illegals are voting - it's happened in every election since about 1990
[18:20:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> Runaway1956_, since ever
[18:20:14] <Runaway1956_> and probably before then
[18:20:32] <carny> that's one reason why i want biden to steal it from trump
[18:20:54] <Runaway1956_> The real turnover point was when states issued driver's licenses, which are all the ID required to register to vote
[18:21:00] <carny> if enough people start occupying state houses maybe some of this corruption can get cleaned up
[18:21:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> i want a recount that gives it to kayne. straight up for the keks.
[18:21:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> Runaway1956_, non-citizen licenses have "non-citizen" on them, even in california.
[18:21:33] <carny> TheMightyBuzzard: did you vote for him? ;]
[18:21:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> carny, hells yes
[18:22:10] <carny> TheMightyBuzzard: in pennsylvania $20 under the table got you a citizen version of your license
[18:22:33] <carny> i think that was in the dmv of some pittsburgh suburb
[18:22:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, well, crime's the exception to a lot of things
[18:22:55] <carny> tens of thousands of 'real' ids through a fairly small office
[18:23:17] <carny> i expect it happens in every major city
[18:23:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly. fake papers ain't ever been a surprise to anyone though. there's a level of fraud expected in any election.
[18:24:04] <Runaway1956_> Remember when thousands of people ineligible for CDL were buying them?
[18:24:16] <Runaway1956_> * Commercial Driver's License
[18:24:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i never gave a shit about a CDL until recently
[18:24:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> i just wanted my motorcycle endorsement on my regular license and i was happy
[18:24:54] <Runaway1956_> If memory serves correctly, Arkansas issued about 4000 fake CDLs
[18:25:09] <Runaway1956_> other states more others less but I think every state had a problem
[18:26:33] <Runaway1956_> California non-citizen licenses don't say non-citizen - they have "DM" where a regular license has a "DL"
[18:26:58] <Runaway1956_> don't know how that translates into voter registration
[18:27:59] <Runaway1956_> https://duidefensela.com
[18:28:00] <systemd> ^ 03CA Drivers License for Non Citizens Information
[18:29:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, nap time
[18:47:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Jupiter's Ocean Moon Europa Probably Glows in the Dark - https://sylnt.us - can't-they-just-look?
[18:48:48] <Teckla> Hmmm, I see less stories than usual lately. Are some Soylent News admins on vacation?
[18:56:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> Teckla, short on editors so the pace has been slowed. feel free to volunteer over in #editorial
[18:56:09] <Fnord666> Teckla, We've scaled back the number of stories posted during the weekends to give the editors a bit of a break.
[19:07:23] <Runaway1956_> 'Starchus submitted this if you haven't see it https://twitter.com
[19:07:45] <Runaway1956_> looks rather tame to me -
[19:08:08] * Runaway1956_ recalls having his crow "tacked on" to his arm when he became a petty officer
[19:13:09] <Teckla> TheMightyBuzzard: Alas, too busy with other priorities, otherwise I would!
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[20:58:55] <Bytram> =yt https://www.youtube.com
[20:58:56] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Crew-1 Mission | Rendezvous and Docking (00; 84,329 views; 👍11,884 👎181)
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[21:16:06] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://www.marketwatch.com from the die-for-our-narrative dept.
[21:16:07] <systemd> Submitting "South Dakota emergency-room nurse says some patients insist COVID-19 isn’t real even as they’re dying from it"...
[21:16:29] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08South Dakota Emergency-room Nurse Says Some Patients Insist COVID-19 Isn’t Real Even as They’re " (2 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[21:17:19] <FatPhil> https://mobile.twitter.com
[21:17:19] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter
[21:17:25] <Bytram> some are sicker than others
[21:18:46] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://www.marketwatch.com from the ∅∅psie dept.
[21:18:48] <systemd> Submitting "Sweden stages coronavirus U-turn, banning public events with more than eight people"...
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[21:19:41] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: FYI: this story just went live: https://soylentnews.org
[21:19:42] <systemd> ^ 03U.S. Hits 11 Million Coronavirus Cases, Adding 1 Million in a Week - SoylentNews
[21:19:54] <AzumaHazuki> yeah, i saw.
[21:20:16] <Bytram> k
[21:20:17] <AzumaHazuki> this isn't real though. as Any Fule Noe, the virus was going to disappear right after the election. it's a Chinese Democrat hoax after all
[21:20:23] <FatPhil> https://twitter.com
[21:20:24] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter ( https://mobile.twitter.com )
[21:22:50] <AzumaHazuki> oh, did anyone submit about the Moderna vaccine yet? apparently it's ~95% effective and can be kept in the fridge instead of on dry ice
[21:23:32] <FatPhil> https://twitter.com
[21:23:33] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter ( https://mobile.twitter.com )
[21:25:07] <FatPhil> AzumaHazuki: but the election's on 14th, plenty of time for more exponential growth before then
[21:25:12] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://www.reuters.com from the pins-and-needles dept.
[21:25:13] <systemd> Submitting "We can stop COVID-19: Moderna vaccine success gives world more hope"...( 1 modified urls; https://www.reuters.com )
[21:25:34] <AzumaHazuki> this is the trump virus now
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[21:27:54] <AzumaHazuki> i hope like hell this becomes available quickly and i can get it because...since this IS America, and i'm new at that hospital, no benefits till January!
[21:28:06] <AzumaHazuki> so if i get sick between now and then, well, yeah.
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[21:31:08] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[21:31:11] <systemd> ^ 03Zoom Threesome
[21:32:37] <Bytram> =g vietnam war deaths
[21:32:38] <systemd> https://www.va.gov - America's Wars
[21:37:40] <AzumaHazuki> so the trump admin's mishandling of Covid has killed more people than the Civil War...which was another 4 year clusterfuck based on racism disguised as "states' rights" that killed way too many of us :/
[21:37:59] <AzumaHazuki> history might not repeat but it sure as hell rhymes
[21:39:32] <FatPhil> Fuxtix. I meant "YOUR"
[21:39:56] <FatPhil> I am bad troll, not even worth responding to.
[21:40:23] * FatPhil finds a wet cardboard box and heads off to the nearest bridge.
[21:49:15] <Bytram> https://www.youtube.com
[21:49:17] <systemd> ^ 03Crew-1 Mission | Rendezvous and Docking
[21:53:35] <Runaway1956_> AzumaHazuki - can't we just inject the dry ice, and freeze the bug like a wart?
[21:54:34] <AzumaHazuki> that...that is genius. hold still and let me get the dry ice and that giant syringe
[21:55:10] <Runaway1956_> Hell no - you'll try to do an enema, don't want my heart frozen like yours
[21:56:37] <Runaway1956_> https://www.youtube.com
[21:56:39] <systemd> ^ 03Crew-1 Mission | Rendezvous and Docking
[21:56:47] <Runaway1956_> looks like a bunch of college kids on a bus ride
[21:57:54] <Runaway1956_> ahhh, they've moved around now, doesn't look so much like a bus
[21:57:57] <FatPhil> Now we know that Runaway1956_ is posting from the centre of the sun, as it took 8 minutes for that message to reach here
[21:58:26] <Runaway1956_> Thought the sun was more than 8 minutes at light speed
[21:58:54] <AzumaHazuki> i was going to stick it in your left ear actually. the idea is a sort of dry-ice depot injection, but that requires a rather large cavity
[21:59:13] <AzumaHazuki> why is everything about asses and the sticking things up into them with you?
[21:59:17] <Runaway1956_> you lesbians sure know your kink
[21:59:21] <FatPhil> 8m20s, IIRC, but 2% variability is quite a bit
[21:59:29] <AzumaHazuki> what can i say, i'm not into butt stuff
[21:59:36] <Bytram> =g astronomical unit in kilometers
[21:59:37] <AzumaHazuki> and people do say talking to me is a mindfuck :D
[21:59:37] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Astronomical unit - Wikipedia
[21:59:52] <Runaway1956_> eight minuts it is
[21:59:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, you only have distance. you need three data points for proper positioning.
[22:00:30] <Runaway1956_> for some reason, I wanted to argue that it was 16 minutes - not sure where I got that from
[22:00:37] <Bytram> Earth to moon is about 1 1/2 seconds
[22:00:51] <FatPhil> because you wanted our response transmitted back to you in the sun
[22:00:56] <Bytram> Runaway1956_: roundtrip time?
[22:01:01] <chromas> ½ eh. Can you give me that value in metric?
[22:01:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, he was thinking ping time
[22:01:10] <FatPhil> fuck, why couldn't I get my answer down to 2 words :(
[22:01:19] <Bytram> 50/100
[22:02:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> Runaway1956_, from your ass, of course. no sense messing up a perfectly good butt stuff roll
[22:02:23] <chromas> !grab TheMightyBuzzard
[22:02:24] <Bender> Added quote 1002
[22:02:40] <Runaway1956_> butt rolls - straight from the kitchen of Buzzard
[22:03:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> i should make some of them for thanksgiving
[22:03:20] <Runaway1956_> Look out Dolly Madison!
[22:03:26] <chromas> Now those are some hot cross buns!
[22:04:00] * TheMightyBuzzard ponders on how to get a really accurate butt shape
[22:04:02] <AzumaHazuki> https://pbs.twimg.com okay, so Russia got something right
[22:04:15] <AzumaHazuki> Pelmeni machine? fresh, hot pelmeni on demand? yesplz
[22:04:29] <Bytram> =yt https://www.youtube.com
[22:04:29] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Amy Allen Presents - Live from Mack Sennett (20:57; 2 views; 👍2 👎0)
[22:04:45] <FatPhil> Oh, god, you're not a boiler, are you?
[22:04:52] <FatPhil> Fried or nothing, mate.
[22:06:02] <Runaway1956_> So, how is pelmini different than any other pasta?
[22:06:42] <chromas> it ends with an i
[22:06:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, for pelmeni or everything in general?
[22:06:52] <FatPhil> boiled, it isn't particularly, or wanton, or whatever meaty dollop wrapped in starchy paste.
[22:07:09] <FatPhil> pelmeni, but it's a good rule to have as a backup.
[22:08:25] <chromas> pelmenu, but it speeds up every bite
[22:08:45] <Runaway1956_> Ahh, not pasta exactly, more like a dough, maybe kinda like pierogis or raviolis
[22:09:17] <chromas> so a pasta then
[22:09:52] <FatPhil> the ones designed more for boiling have a texture closer to pasta, but the ones designed for frying have a texture more like a pastry.
[22:10:20] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles remembering the bit from the hogfather about albert frying a pudding
[22:10:23] <FatPhil> Note the etymology of "pasta" and "pastry" here ;-)
[22:10:44] <Runaway1956_> pasties are good . . .
[22:13:01] <AzumaHazuki> i do prefer the boiled ones, yes. fried is a little too rich for me
[22:13:09] <FatPhil> the ones we buy are more like this: https://lood.delfi.ee
[22:13:11] <systemd> ^ 03KIIRE HOMMIKUSÖÖGI SOOVITUS: Hiinapärased veiselihapelmeenid terava kastmega - Oma Maitse
[22:15:09] <FatPhil> those are a bit more chinese style (hiina parased) than the exact ones we do, but the more pastry-like nature from the bubbling from the frying is clear.
[22:15:23] <Runaway1956_> I guess I'm the cook tonight - later
[22:26:04] <Runaway1956_> Hah - that was too easy - red beans and rice from a box, chop up a bit of onion and a pound of smoked sausage, bring to simmer, cook for 25 minutes
[22:26:42] <Runaway1956_> It's almost cajun, I guess
[22:26:51] <AzumaHazuki> that sounds good. i may do something like that later this week
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[22:27:32] <Bytram> would sound better with less fat (from the sausage)
[22:27:57] <Runaway1956_> Ehhhh, suasage doesn't appear to be very fatty
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[22:28:17] <Runaway1956_> don't remember the brand - has a black guy in a cowboy lookiing outfit on the label
[22:28:20] <AzumaHazuki> sounds like ground turkey would work for this
[22:29:22] <Runaway1956_> Earl Campbell sausage - maybe it's better than Jimmy Dean.
[22:30:44] <chromas> Bytram: s/(a)t.*/l\1vor/
[22:30:44] <SedBot> <chromas> <Bytram> would sound better with less flavor
[22:32:49] <AzumaHazuki> ...whoa. that is some advanced regex-fu (regex-foo?)
[22:35:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt beans and rice schoolhouse rock
[22:35:46] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- Beans and Rice - Beans and Rice Vintage PSA Commercial
[22:35:49] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: s/foo/flu/
[22:35:49] <SedBot> <Bytram> <AzumaHazuki> ...whoa. that is some advanced regex-fu (regex-flu?)
[22:35:58] <Bytram> ;^)
[22:38:17] <AzumaHazuki> those have kept me going a good long time. turns out the (what else?) instant pot can do brown rice and dry beans in half an hour if you soak the beans overnight first
[22:49:09] <Bytram> I bet those beans really keep ya... going! ;^
[22:49:29] <Bytram> btw, that was just a passing comment.
[22:49:55] <Bytram> jumping jack flash it's a gas gas gas
[22:51:42] <AzumaHazuki> yeah. i actually do keep a bottle of Beano in my backpack for days when beans are on the menu
[22:51:47] <AzumaHazuki> it works surprisingly well
[22:53:51] <Runaway1956_> Hey Bytram - if I leave the lid off the dutch oven while the beans and rice cook, will the fat from the sausage evaporate?
[22:54:06] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: good to know... never tried it
[22:54:30] <Bytram> no idea
[22:54:36] <Runaway1956_> LMAO
[22:54:40] <AzumaHazuki> no thunder from down under all three times i used it last week. i'm actually a bit surprised
[22:55:00] <Bytram> =yt XouDrt2XcLk
[22:55:01] <systemd> https://youtube.com - The Hallelujah Chorus (03:33; 7,596 views; 👍109 👎15)
[22:55:31] <Bytram> Amazing a capella
[23:01:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> Runaway1956_, no it will not. if you're a heretic and don't want delicious sausage grease, you have to let it rise to the top and skim it off.
[23:03:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> leaving the lid off will just cause it to cook slower and lose more water. if it's a boxed recipe, it will fuck things all kinds of up cause they measure in just enough water for the directions given.
[23:06:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> speakin of, ima soak some beans overnight and put them on in the morning. got a nice poorly cleaned ham bone to go along with them from last week's ham.
[23:06:45] * TheMightyBuzzard fucks off to make dinner and set tomorrow's beans up
[23:06:53] <chromas> ♪ham on...ham on..♪
[23:08:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Jupyter Trojan: Newly Discovered Malware Stealthily Steals Usernames and Passwords - https://sylnt.us - nice-horsey
[23:09:23] <chromas> Jupyter rising
[23:10:15] * Bytram appreciate chromas' wry (rye?) comments
[23:12:13] <AzumaHazuki> i've got a couple more days of that chicken thighs and potatoes thing left. is goooood.
[23:14:04] <requerdanos> fat will sublimate given geological time, but it doesn't evaporate
[23:16:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> unless you stick a string in it and light the string
[23:21:43] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: FatPhil: This one's for you all: http://rss.cnn.com
[23:21:45] <systemd> ^ 03Waffle House teams up with Georgia's Oconee Brewing Company to produce a bacon-flavored beer ( https://www.cnn.com )
[23:22:50] <Bytram> break time
[23:35:10] <Runaway1956_> Ahhhhh, the wick - that's the part I was missing themightybuzzard
[23:41:26] * Runaway1956_ has to check in to see how the war against the Laconians is going . . .
[23:47:07] <chromas> Who doesn't like Lanczos?
[23:47:58] <Runaway1956_> You wouldn't like them very much if they were threatening to blow up YOUR planet.