#soylent | Logs for 2020-11-15

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[00:06:52] <c0lo> "tasted of bile and vomit" - yeaks. Shit is organic too.
[00:09:27] <c0lo> "bourbon, menthol crystals, and honey" two of the ingredients were hard to get under a communist regime. Vodka as a substitute for bourboun, maybe, but no menthol crystals.
[00:11:03] <c0lo> In any case, hot wine (boil it for some minutes) was seen as appropriate even for kids. I have fond memories of a couple of cold bouts of my childhood.
[00:11:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> anything with some sinus clearing to it would do. peppers, pepper, horseradish, lots of mint
[00:13:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> i never liked wine until i made my first batch. doesn't mean i didn't drink it, mind you. teenagers will drink most anything.
[00:13:40] <c0lo> Hot wine feels like your body temp raising enough to boild down the snot. In any case, the nose was running like a tap after the first half of the hot wine mug.
[00:13:52] <c0lo> s/boild/boil/
[00:13:52] <SedBot> <c0lo> Hot wine feels like your body temp raising enough to boil down the snot. In any case, the nose was running like a tap after the first half of the hot wine mug.
[00:14:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> interestin
[00:14:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> haven't noticed whether sake does that or not. never paid attention even though you're supposed to drink it about the temperature of a hot shower.
[00:18:18] * TheMightyBuzzard looks at the hexchat source files he has open and decides he'd rather read a book than finish writing more fine-grained ignore types
[00:19:12] <c0lo> After that, back in the bed and some couple of hours of sweating - that phase wasn't that pleasant, but there wasn't anyone able to protest after having the wine.
[00:20:19] <Bytram> c0lo: so, no whine? ;^)
[00:27:30] <c0lo> No whine, no, the wine was enough.
[00:29:45] <c0lo> Trump's antics may have to do with the run off for the senate in Georgia. https://theconversation.com
[00:29:48] <systemd> ^ 03What's behind Trump's refusal to concede? For Republicans, the end game is Georgia and control of the Senate
[00:32:07] <c0lo> It may backfire badly, Georgia just started to climb the exponential: https://www.worldometers.info
[00:32:08] <systemd> ^ 03Georgia Coronavirus: 422,905 Cases and 8,956 Deaths (COVID-19 ) - Worldometer ( https://www.worldometers.info )
[00:37:49] <c0lo> ICUs in Georgia just stepped into critical level of occupancy https://covidactnow.org
[00:37:50] <systemd> ^ 03Georgia: ICU headroom used ( https://covidactnow.org )
[00:39:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> c0lo, there's also the fact that if he can keep biden from getting 270 electoral votes that aren't held up by a court order, it goes to the house to decide the president
[00:39:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> but at one vote per state
[00:41:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> i quite dislike that idea but i can also see him having that very intention.
[00:44:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> happened before. 1801 and 1825, so it's not unprecedented.
[00:47:46] <Bytram> throwing spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks? That sounds like how I'd like to get into office with the will of the people behind me -- "I stole it fair and square".
[00:48:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, like i said, it's not something i'd like to see happen but it's something that absolutely could and has before.
[00:49:27] <Bytram> Getting off from a legal issue on a technicality one thing (innocent until proven guilty; better for 10 guilty people to go free than for one innocent person to be convicted)
[00:50:39] <Bytram> There was also the time when a state sent *two* slates of electors, each claiming *they* were the ones who were supposed to be the ones at the Electoral College vote.
[00:50:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> frankly, it's likely to be more legit than our election was but it's still not something i want becoming commonplace.
[00:50:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[00:51:24] <Bytram> I think, at this point, we are "furiously agreeing".
[00:52:34] <Bytram> He has lost, by any reasonable measure, but Trump is hoping beyond hope that somehow he can wring out a win -- by hook or by crook.
[00:53:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, hey, i did some research today. did you know you could register to vote in california by mail with a name and the last four of a social security number? you can then vote with no further identification, though doing so by mail is probably better if you don't look like you were born in 1908.
[00:54:56] <Bytram> I've not been following especially closely, but from what I recall reading, his legal challenges are based on slim chances, at best, that in many cases even if he won, say, a recount -- the margin is so large it would be like winning every one of those state's Lotto jackpots on the same day.
[00:55:23] <AzumaHazuki> for a guy who doesn't like, support, or vote for Trump he seems awfully invested in this
[00:55:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i'm just enjoying the spectacle
[00:55:46] <AzumaHazuki> sure
[00:56:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> and i think anyone caught committing voter fraud should be shot dead on the spot. no trial, no appeal.
[00:56:19] <Bytram> might want to go in for a new pair of glasses (spectacles)
[00:56:20] <AzumaHazuki> lovely
[00:56:48] <AzumaHazuki> you're becoming a regular ol' fox news jihadi. assuming your liver doesn't give out before you turn 50 from all the booze you'll fit right in
[00:56:59] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[00:57:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you want people disenfranchised, that's on you. i consider the right to have the same say as anyone else pretty damned sacred.
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[00:57:40] <Bytram> It's all but over, and dragging it out like this just cements in my mind that Trump is soley interested in what is in it for him (staying out of jail/prison?) than it is about what is best for America.
[00:58:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, he's a politician, ain't he?
[00:58:11] <AzumaHazuki> so you're all over the ratfucking the trump admin did with the post office, the deliberate removal of mailboxes, and the closing of polling places in predominantly minority regions then I assume?
[00:58:12] <AzumaHazuki> (hah)
[00:58:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> while i truly like the idea of all politicians serving two terms, one in office and one in prison, you'll never see a president or former president arrested.
[00:58:37] <AzumaHazuki> please, Helen Keller could see what you're about. don't insult our intelligence
[00:59:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, you see everything in black and white. i'm purple
[00:59:15] <Bytram> true that, but there are also matters of degree.
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[00:59:29] <AzumaHazuki> "orange and blue morality" may be the trope you're looking for
[00:59:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> civil suit might bear fruit though
[00:59:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> tropes can fuck off
[01:00:09] <AzumaHazuki> they can, but they won't. our species may as well be Pan narrans, "story-telling chimp"
[01:00:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> i do not fit your view of the world and i'm not even some shade between the two poles. you have no idea what i'm about.
[01:00:25] <AzumaHazuki> LOL!
[01:00:30] <Bytram> ISTR there is someone in NYC (the DA?) who has already been collecting data on Trump and is just Biding her time.
[01:00:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, i didn't say nobody would _try_
[01:00:56] <Bytram> s/Biding/Biden/
[01:00:56] <SedBot> <Bytram> ISTR there is someone in NYC (the DA?) who has already been collecting data on Trump and is just Biden her time.
[01:00:56] <AzumaHazuki> Everyone can see what you're about. there's basically nothing to you but animal desires anymore. you were never much of a person, but your brother's death made you shut down
[01:01:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, it did me more good than anything, really
[01:01:20] <AzumaHazuki> and, well...that's your freedom. just don't pretend to be a functioning human
[01:01:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> see, you know diddly
[01:01:40] * Bytram goes back to trying to find a story to push out
[01:01:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, any about boobs?
[01:01:49] <AzumaHazuki> we're basically just patting you on the head and indulging you, you know
[01:01:54] * TheMightyBuzzard votes boobs
[01:02:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, nah, you're just making yourself look like an hysterical idiot to anyone who knows their ass from a hole in the ground
[01:02:36] <AzumaHazuki> just keep knockin' em back :)
[01:02:41] <Bytram> that's gonna be a rarity round heah -- this is not just for the men's shower room.
[01:02:44] <AzumaHazuki> you'll burn with a pretty blue flame
[01:03:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, someone subbed one earlier... what was it... had a legit tech angle of some sort...
[01:03:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> c0lo i think
[01:03:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, sure sure. unfortunately you don't get to make that call
[01:03:48] <Bytram> one in a dogs age, maybe, but even then I'm finding it less and less... attractive to treat women as sex objects, no matter how much double endender' it is wrapped up in.
[01:04:01] <Bytram> s/one/once/
[01:04:01] <SedBot> <Bytram> once in a dogs age, maybe, but even then I'm finding it less and less... attractive to treat women as sex objects, no matter how much double endender' it is wrapped up in.
[01:04:09] <AzumaHazuki> i don't need to be the one to make it, any more than it's my personal responsibility to ensure that someone who jumps off a building goes splat
[01:04:15] <AzumaHazuki> the laws of reality will see to it
[01:04:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, they are sex objects. they're just not ONLY sex objects.
[01:04:54] <Bytram> I do not see things that way. You, apparently, see otherwise.
[01:05:12] * AzumaHazuki settles in with a mug of tea to watch a master at work
[01:05:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's not an opinion, it's a fact. were it not so there would have been no further generations of homo sapiens
[01:05:49] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: A master... what? Baiter?
[01:06:12] <AzumaHazuki> certainly not a master de-bater :D
[01:06:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's like denying people with brown hair have brown hair. it's not anywhere near the sum total of them but it is an undeniable trait.
[01:06:33] <Bytram> two shay
[01:06:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> shay++
[01:06:44] <Bender> karma - shay: 1
[01:06:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> shay++
[01:06:45] <Bender> karma - shay: 2
[01:06:47] <Bytram> that was for AzumaHazuki, bt
[01:06:49] <AzumaHazuki> this crap makes some drunken college freshman ranting about "evolutionary psychology" look well-considered and well-researched
[01:07:03] <AzumaHazuki> not that i'm at all surprised, mind
[01:07:14] <Bytram> like I said, I gots stories to push out.
[01:07:20] * TheMightyBuzzard waves
[01:09:20] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: do you happen to have a DB window handy? I'm wondering just how many stories I've pushed out so far - the pages here are on a delay (https://soylentnews.org/authors.pl AND https://soylentnews.org)
[01:09:21] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews: Authors
[01:09:22] <systemd> ^ 03404 File Not Found
[01:09:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> no but it won't take a moment
[01:10:03] * Bytram thinks he is close to a milestone
[01:10:13] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++ ty
[01:10:13] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 391
[01:10:32] <Bytram> my guess: 9499
[01:11:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> off by one
[01:11:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> 9498
[01:11:49] <Bytram> ack
[01:12:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> select count(*) from stories where uid = 76; if you want to know and i'm not around. which i won't be much for the rest of the night.
[01:13:12] <Bytram> even at a single minute each, that's > 158 hours... Zoinks!
[01:13:42] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: got it, tx.
[01:13:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> zoinks indeed
[01:14:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas or FatPhil can check if you're having issues. they both have server adminy powers i think.
[01:14:34] <Bytram> I've go much stuff encapsulated in cmd and awk files, I kinda forget the details after a while.
[01:15:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, sticks in your brain better if you do it manually but it's also a pain.
[01:15:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, back to work!
[01:15:18] * TheMightyBuzzard cracks his whip
[01:15:28] <Bytram> select uid, seclev from users where seclev > 1 order by seclev;
[01:15:46] <Bytram> optional jon to users_ino to get their nick
[01:15:59] <Bytram> * users_info
[01:16:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> servers not site. can't /opt/mysql/bin/mysql from the web interface
[01:16:32] <chromas> You haven't put your soyl ssh key into your new box yet?
[01:17:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, quiet, you. you're his minion to abuse as he sees fit.
[01:17:26] <Bytram> yeah, oh? Oh!
[01:17:41] * chromas SSHs into Bytram's box and installs his keys
[01:17:42] <Bytram> chromas++
[01:17:43] <Bender> karma - chromas: 307
[01:18:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> i put my keys in a box accidentally once. the magic smoke got out.
[01:18:25] * Bytram hums 60s song about new roller skates and brand new key
[01:18:45] <Bytram> =g lyrics new roller skates and brand new key
[01:18:46] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Brand New Key - Wikipedia
[01:18:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh you bastard. i'm going to have to listen to tiny tim or something now to clear that out
[01:19:02] <Bytram> =yt brand new key
[01:19:03] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Melanie - Brand New Key (Audio) (02:27; 3,048,924 views; 👍36,330 👎1,035)
[01:19:32] <Bytram> Aww, c'mon! It's nice to share!
[01:19:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> or... TR's boy child hasn't been as thoroughly annoyed by that song over his lifetime as i have...
[01:19:53] <Bytram> (and yes, it's worming through my ear atm, too)
[01:20:17] <Bytram> Pass it on? Great idea!
[01:20:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, gotta tell yall my latest bit of brilliance
[01:21:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> boy child, like a whole lot of smart folks, has trouble making himself do tedious, boring tasks. you know, like homework and such.
[01:21:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> so i'm fixing that for him.
[01:22:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> for an hour a day, he has to do something utterly pointless and tedious.
[01:22:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> like i had him sorting and counting a bowl of rice and fish pellets i mixed together yesterday and counting white cars going east today
[01:23:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> going to change the task every day so he can't even get a rhythm going
[01:23:26] <chromas> Has he created a bot to do the work yet?
[01:23:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> no but i'd totally accept that. creative solutions to idiotic work are a perfectly acceptable answer.
[01:24:22] <chromas> We have a company here in town that builds sorters for produce and stuff
[01:24:30] <chromas> time for a collab
[01:24:36] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[01:24:36] <Bytram> and... he... *does* these things??!!!!
[01:24:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, if he wants to do anything else, yes.
[01:25:03] <Bytram> oh, bribery?
[01:25:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> more like tyranny
[01:25:27] <chromas> if he groups the rice grains then he can do multiplication instead of addition
[01:25:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, he figured that out quick enough
[01:25:56] <chromas> mixing rice and fish pellets will teach him about the two-party system
[01:26:15] <chromas> and how he needs to create a division and segregate to accomplish his goals
[01:26:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, no electronics of any kind, no anything at all besides the task given him. enforced as necessary, up to and including by sitting on him until he does it
[01:26:55] <Bytram> yeah, sure. Brand New Key is available in... HD?
[01:27:11] <chromas> why not?
[01:27:20] <Bytram> I'd outstubborn and go without
[01:27:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> ADHD helps there. he don't have the capacity for boredom that i do
[01:27:45] <Bytram> ofc HD was a thing in 1972
[01:27:58] <chromas> it was on film
[01:28:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> he's still inexperienced in his adhd, i'm a master
[01:28:19] <Bytram> chromas: what film?
[01:28:21] <chromas> plus we have convolutional neural networks for upsampling now. it's pretty rad
[01:28:37] <chromas> whatever video you're talking about
[01:29:24] <Bytram> it was actually just a single from the album: https://en.wikipedia.org
[01:29:25] <systemd> ^ 03Gather Me - Wikipedia
[01:29:44] * TheMightyBuzzard buggers off to annoy other people
[01:29:47] <Runaway1956_> Did Bytram say he's giving us a boob story?
[01:30:23] * chromas boobs your uncle
[01:31:48] <Runaway1956_> https://www.coolgalapagos.com
[01:34:05] <Runaway1956_> Someone should suggest to Aristarchus that he should never believe a thing that Charles Koch might say
[01:34:34] <Runaway1956_> wouldn't trust him any further than I can throw George Soros
[01:34:46] <Bytram> Huh! Brand New Key sounds much better than I ever remember it being. Then again, the quality of music devices has improved quite a bit since 45's and AM radio.
[01:35:16] <Runaway1956_> =yt brand new key
[01:35:17] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Melanie - Brand New Key (Audio) (02:27; 3,048,966 views; 👍36,330 👎1,035)
[01:35:39] <Bytram> =yt lKcpodt0YCU
[01:35:40] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Melanie - Brand New Key (Audio) (02:27; 3,048,966 views; 👍36,330 👎1,035)
[01:35:42] <chromas> see, it is hd
[01:36:02] <Bytram> of a... wait for it... picture.
[01:36:19] <Bytram> not a motion picture, just a picture.
[01:36:56] <Bytram> =yt JRlmb0xAtBs
[01:36:57] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Life of Mel Blanc (02:13; 271 views; 👍2 👎0)
[01:36:57] <chromas> if sunglasses can be hd then why can't a jpeg?
[01:37:30] <Runaway1956_> motorcycles can be hd when they grow up, right?
[01:37:59] <Bytram> like a computer with a turbo button?
[01:38:29] <Runaway1956_> Yeah, but they took away my turbo buttons years ago :^(
[01:38:46] <chromas> actually I remember the washer and drier being hd too
[01:38:54] <chromas> but that was heavy duty. still hd
[01:39:20] * Runaway1956_ never uses anything but HD on the dryer
[01:39:30] <Bytram> was actualy just a slow mode for when progs ran too quick at bus speeds, you could slow it down... but most folk just turned it on and left it there.
[01:39:31] <chromas> They're trying to take my reset button too
[01:39:33] <Bytram> break time
[01:40:11] <Runaway1956_> my reset button is all but gone - I need a pen or something to push it because it's small and recessed slightly
[01:41:13] * Runaway1956_ reminds himself that it's past time to clean out the cabinet
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[02:25:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> and you guys call yourselves tech guys... go get a 50A momentary push-button starter switch from o'reilly's and spend 15 minutes turning that into your new reset switch.
[02:27:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> basically any normally open momentary switch will work, those are just big and very durable
[02:32:13] <Bytram> yep, that 50A momentary starter switch will look just swell hanging off a cell phone in your pocket. Might also want to be a bit more careful when taking a seat.
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[02:40:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh you don't want one for a smartphone. that needs a dpst knife switch. one about eight inches long.
[02:45:34] <Bytram> Sounds 'bout right. Along with jumpers to the main breaker panel.
[02:46:03] <Bytram> chow and bed time, prolly in that order. Have a great night everybody!
[02:49:16] <Bytram> Here's some crane pr0n. Seems like a big crane, yeah, until I noticed the guy with a blue shirt and white construction cap about 20-30' to the left of the base of the crane... that sucker's huge!
[02:49:31] <Bytram> ^^^ https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com
[02:50:44] <Bytram> Note: JPEG Image, 5568 × 3712 pixels
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[06:48:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Preliminary Data Suggest Cod Liver Oil Users have Lower Risk of Getting COVID-19 - https://sylnt.us - Cod-liver-oil...or-Covid?...Is-there-another-choice?
[07:48:25] <c0lo> Recommended - https://www.youtube.com
[07:48:27] <systemd> ^ 03Do these scatter plots reveal fraudulent vote-switching in Michigan?
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[11:27:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Major Vulnerabilities Found in TCL Smart TVs - https://sylnt.us - might-be-smart-to-use-it-as-a-dumb-monitor
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[12:52:41] <Bytram> c0lo: Betteridge says "No"?
[12:55:03] <FatPhil> c0lo: Bytram: if those are the Shiva ones, they're complete garbage.
[12:55:24] <Bytram> besides, who can tolerate fraudulent vote switching, anyway? Demand only "legal" vote switching! (Which, in my opinion, Trump is attempting, so far unsuccessfully)
[12:56:25] <Bytram> FatPhil: Just woke up... what was that in respect to? Car starters?
[12:56:30] <FatPhil> He assumes laziness and pug-voting are uncorrelated. Then adds 2 degrees of freedom to the data. Then extracts the conclusion he wanted from that new dataset, whilst pretending to be scientific.
[12:56:38] <FatPhil> 14:53 <@Bytram> c0lo: Betteridge says "No"?
[12:56:45] <FatPhil> 09:48 < c0lo> Recommended - https://www.youtube.com
[12:56:48] <systemd> ^ 03Do these scatter plots reveal fraudulent vote-switching in Michigan?
[12:57:24] <Bytram> Ah, not familiar with the terminology "Shiva" -- some kind of plot?
[12:57:38] <Bytram> =g Shiva plot
[12:57:38] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org(1990_film) - Shiva (1990 film) - Wikipedia
[12:57:44] <Bytram> lol!
[12:57:56] <Bytram> =g Shiva scatter plot
[12:57:57] <systemd> https://www.metabunk.org - Dr. Shiva's Scatterplot Analysis of Michigan Precincts | Metabunk
[12:58:22] <Bytram> FatPhil: Ahh, got it. tx!
[13:01:11] <Bytram> btw, anybody know of something *like* top on linux that shows each *process* using internet, and how much of each (up/down). Real-time-graph would be a bonus.
[13:01:58] * Bytram is using Ubuntu Mate, if that makes a difference.
[13:03:15] <Bytram> break time; biab
[13:25:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, try nethogs
[13:35:17] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Looking... thanks!
[13:41:25] <Bytram> installed and running... looking good.
[13:54:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> ain't perfect by any means but it'll do, mostly.
[13:58:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, stupid clock. it's telling me to get off my ass and go anchor the church's water line for the ice makers to the wall better. then to run the smurf pipe for the cable internet cable. we're putting easily fished, flexible conduit in for the cable so they don't have to bother with anchoring it to a wall or finding a good route, just push it into the weatherproof box until it comes out exactly where we want it.
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[15:27:34] <Bytram> https://mobile.twitter.com
[15:27:35] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter
[15:27:37] <Bytram> “He won because the Election was Rigged. NO VOTE WATCHERS OR OBSERVERS allowed, vote tabulated by a Radical Left privately owned company, Dominion, with a bad reputation & bum equipment that couldn’t even qualify for Texas (which I won by a lot!), the Fake & Silent Media, & more!”
[15:28:11] <Bytram> Trump says Biden won... but is not yet ready to concede.
[15:29:08] <Bytram> Everything he does is perfect, he's never failed at anything, its everybody else's fault.
[15:31:42] <Bytram> https://www.youtube.com
[15:31:44] <systemd> ^ 03Drill through anything (conductive) with Electrical Discharge Machining
[15:45:26] <AzumaHazuki> trump isn't even the problem. it's his supporters
[15:45:46] <AzumaHazuki> you've seen what complete lunatics this has turned people like runaway and uzzard into. they were never entirely sane but they're fucking mental now
[15:46:11] <AzumaHazuki> ...now scale that up to a solid 40% of the voting public. this is why i want fuckin' out like yesterday
[15:47:39] <Bytram> trump has been the instigator. get him out of the way and things can transition back over time.
[15:49:07] <AzumaHazuki> not happening. too much damage has been done to our institutions and the Dominionists won the half-century-plus long game (pack the SCOTUS) they've been playing
[15:50:11] <Bytram> there was a little division after the civil war, too.
[15:50:55] <AzumaHazuki> ...heh. the civil war and the trump admin were both 4 year long clusterfucks that needlessly killed Americans, were mostly about racism disguised as "states' rights," and the losers will hold a grudge for eternity it seems
[15:51:21] <AzumaHazuki> i say let the south secede this time. and then do what Lincoln should have: burn it
[15:51:38] <Bytram> and nothing has been learned since then, of course.
[15:51:49] <AzumaHazuki> certainly not by the losers :D
[15:52:05] <Bytram> lol, touche'
[15:52:10] <AzumaHazuki> amnesty for whoever wants it. anyone who voted against the GOP can be evacuated north. then burn it all.
[15:52:27] <AzumaHazuki> traitors burn on earth, traitors burn in hell
[15:53:50] <Bytram> =g more people have been encouraged out of vice than have been beaten into virtue
[15:53:51] <systemd> https://www.econlib.org - Virtue and vice signalling - Econlib
[15:54:22] <AzumaHazuki> we've been over this before: some people cannot be "encouraged" into or out of anything any longer. there is a reason pride is specified as the worst od the 7 deadly sins
[15:54:32] <AzumaHazuki> they want war? give them war. and war is hell.
[15:54:58] <Bytram> then let us agree to disagree
[15:55:21] <Bytram> unless you want to fight about that?
[15:55:26] <Bytram> ;)
[15:55:41] <AzumaHazuki> heh, no. i just wish i were as innocent as you
[15:55:47] <AzumaHazuki> and wonder how you kept your innocent so long
[15:56:53] <Bytram> comes from more experience at watching pendulums (-ula?) swing back and forth and back and forth
[15:57:29] <AzumaHazuki> okay, but remember: pendulums have only so much resilience. swing it hard enough and the string breaks
[15:57:31] <Bytram> mainframe/terminal <--> PC (client/server)
[15:58:04] <Bytram> just an example off the top of my (balding) head.
[15:58:20] <AzumaHazuki> when dealing with a simple harmonic oscillator, we tend to ignore the breaking strength of the physical system itself. pull the spring, for example, too hard, and it snaps and bits go ping into the corners
[15:58:29] <FatPhil> the secular cycles curiously align with generations. and with forgetting history.
[15:59:21] <Bytram> =yt age of Aquarius
[15:59:22] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Creating the Age of Aquarius | Carla Goldstein | TEDxWashingtonSquare (13:37; 33,744 views; 👍708 👎83)
[15:59:25] <AzumaHazuki> indeed. and the problem is, those who remember history are a minority. so we're doomed to be dragged kicking and screaming and spitting and cursing our fate back into it to repeat it
[15:59:31] <Bytram> =yt age of Aquarius -creating
[15:59:32] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Age of Aquarius - The 5th Dimension (lyrics) HD (05:01; 206,033 views; 👍3,252 👎105)
[15:59:55] <FatPhil> Hair!
[15:59:58] <Bytram> or, maybe, passing it on to others...
[16:01:07] <Bytram> now, do we show how things were and *encourage* change -- by our example -- or beat 'em upside the head until they are more gentle?
[16:01:22] <Bytram> :D
[16:06:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Surface Imaging of Proxima b and Other Exoplanets - https://sylnt.us - picture-this
[16:08:08] <FatPhil> =yt hair aquarius dimension
[16:08:09] <systemd> https://youtube.com - "HAIR" - "AQUARIUS" (05:44; 3,937,817 views; 👍18,393 👎782)
[16:08:23] <FatPhil> that's how you do hippy properly
[16:09:33] <Bytram> the one I'd seen had the singers on a "disc" and 'flying' around as they played.
[16:10:09] <Bytram> obviously dubbed in
[16:18:53] <FatPhil> I'm on my phone in the pub presently, so don't know exactly what vid that was. But I'm hippy enough to know what to search for.
[16:19:13] <Bytram> lol
[16:19:52] <Bytram> don't seem to have those... biab
[16:37:42] <Bytram> =yt jqmS29CXNZ8
[16:37:43] <systemd> https://youtube.com - 5th Dimension On Less Bell To Answer (HQ Stereo) 1970 (03:32; 2,538,487 views; 👍22,018 👎620)
[16:45:28] <Bytram> =yt "one less bell to answer"
[16:45:29] <systemd> https://youtube.com - 5th Dimension On Less Bell To Answer (HQ Stereo) 1970 (03:32; 2,538,497 views; 👍22,018 👎620)
[16:45:54] <Bytram> =yt "one less bell to answer" -jqmS29CXNZ8
[16:45:55] <systemd> https://youtube.com - The Fifth Dimension -- One Less Bell To Answer (03:31; 969,143 views; 👍9,787 👎330)
[16:50:34] <Bytram> =yt "one less bell to answer" -jqmS29CXNZ8 -pjW_z02EjaA
[16:50:34] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Marilyn McCoo - One Less Bell To Answer (The 5th Dimension and Bones Howe) (04:11; 457,373 views; 👍7,924 👎134)
[16:52:34] <Bytram> =yt "one less bell to answer" -jqmS29CXNZ8 -pjW_z02EjaA -ETNM6x1xfuU
[16:52:35] <systemd> https://youtube.com - One Less Bell To Answer (03:31; 89,312 views; 👍2,137 👎203)
[16:52:44] <FatPhil> fewer!
[16:53:31] <Bytram> FatPhil: ROFL!
[17:01:58] <Bytram> =yt "one less bell to answer" -jqmS29CXNZ8 -pjW_z02EjaA -ETNM6x1xfuU -lBrbu7PvMU0
[17:01:59] <systemd> https://youtube.com - One Less Bell to Answer (04:41; 17,014 views; 👍243 👎13)
[17:57:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Major Vulnerabilities Found in TCL Android Smart TVs [Updated] - https://sylnt.us - might-be-smart-to-use-it-as-a-dumb-monitor
[18:05:34] <Runaway1956> retro computing LOL
[18:05:38] <Runaway1956> https://i.imgur.com
[18:13:38] <Bytram> http://www.youtube.com
[18:13:39] <systemd> ^ 03Watch the Launch of NASA's SpaceX Crew-1 Mission to the International Space Station ( https://www.youtube.com )
[18:19:04] <Bytram> https://www.youtube.com
[18:19:05] <systemd> ^ 03Crew-1 Mission
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[19:09:24] <Bytram> https://www.youtube.com
[19:09:26] <systemd> ^ 03Crew-1 Mission
[19:23:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> you know, they really should have three buttons on youtube not two. 👍,👎, and🖕
[19:26:17] <chromas> They do; it's under the DMCA violation section
[19:29:24] <Bytram> chromas++ two (three?) shay!
[19:29:24] <Bender> karma - chromas: 308
[19:36:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Weather Permitting, Crew-1 Flies to ISS Today; 2020-11-15@19:27 EST (2020-11-16@00:27 UTC) - https://sylnt.us - up-up-and-away
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[20:17:41] <Bytram> https://www.youtube.com
[20:17:43] <systemd> ^ 03Crew-1 Mission
[20:19:03] <Bytram> coverage is live already... launch is still 4h11m away
[20:23:51] <Bytram> #weather cape canaveral
[20:23:52] <MrPlow> Cape Canaveral, Pier Rd, Brevard County, FL 32920, USA - Today: "Rain in the afternoon and evening." 80/67F, Humidity: 88%, Precip: 76%, Wind ~8mph. Mon: "Possible light rain in the morning and afternoon." 83/67F, Humidity: 86%, Precip: 80%, Wind ~14mph. Tue: "Clear throughout the day." 80/64F, Humidity: 72%, Precip: 18%, Wind ~22mph.
[20:27:22] <FatPhil> #weather
[20:27:23] <MrPlow> Voorimehe, 10146 Tallinn, Estonia - Today: "Partly cloudy throughout the day." 37/34F, Humidity: 85%, Precip: 11%, Wind ~12mph. Mon: "Possible light rain in the evening and overnight." 40/38F, Humidity: 91%, Precip: 73%, Wind ~16mph. Tue: "Light rain throughout the day." 43/42F, Humidity: 97%, Precip: 82%, Wind ~17mph.
[20:57:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Botnet Attackers Turn to Vulnerable IoT Devices - https://sylnt.us - easy-pickings
[21:29:38] <AzumaHazuki> https://i.imgur.com
[21:46:15] <FatPhil> Mail-in elections are a sick joke! = I cackle as I soon eliminate jerk. (anagram, LHS from https://mobile.twitter.com )
[21:46:16] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter
[22:03:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://tmb.dedyn.io
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[22:14:15] <c0lo> systemd resigned.
[22:18:29] <c0lo> =submit https://www.bbc.com
[22:18:53] <c0lo> =asub https://www.bbc.com
[22:20:39] <c0lo> Somebody fire that systemd, please. It's quiting just as ElomM got the rona and is about to send the infection to ISS.
[22:21:18] <c0lo> s/ElomM/ElonM/
[22:21:18] <SedBot> <c0lo> Somebody fire that systemd, please. It's quiting just as ElonM got the rona and is about to send the infection to ISS.
[22:52:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake chromas
[22:52:30] * MrPlow smakes chromas upside the head with proverbial 2x4
[22:53:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> you can use #submit but the eds don't like it as much
[23:01:07] <c0lo> No like it's news worthy, just another one of 160k yesterday.
[23:03:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, that's fine then
[23:04:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt muskrat love
[23:04:04] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- Muskrat Love - Captain &amp; Tennille
[23:07:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> i love that song. it's so stupid.
[23:27:52] <FatPhil> awwww, so you do have a soft side after all!
[23:28:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> true but it's my ass
[23:31:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> i like lots of sappy crap. i just don't pretend it's not sappy crap. you can't have gone through the 80s in the US and not like rom coms.
[23:33:39] <AzumaHazuki> meal prep is underway :) chicken thighs, potatoes, and lots of onions in the instant pot. with scarborough fair (parsely sage rosemary and thyme) for flavor. giant salad is ready.
[23:33:53] <AzumaHazuki> that pot is a miracle device
[23:35:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> !grab AzumaHazuki
[23:35:32] <Bender> Added quote 1001
[23:35:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> who got 1k?
[23:36:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> !quote 1000
[23:36:00] <Bender> Quote 1000 - <c0lo> Just take care don't exhaust 'zumi, you may gonna run out of nurses soon.
[23:36:22] <AzumaHazuki> thank fuck i'm with the pharmacy instead of the nursing department
[23:36:37] <AzumaHazuki> it's bad enough i have to run to the ICU and the covid wards with meds
[23:37:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, stepmom's up in the mayo madness being an RN. with a 70 year old husband.
[23:38:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> so she goes to work for ages n ages then comes home and spends 15 minutes decontaminating herself before she gets a kiss hello or pets the critters.
[23:39:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> sucks to be them though, she's about to quit and go back to hospice nursing.
[23:41:12] <Runaway1956> Need moar nurses? Reinstitute the draft, and let the Navy train some.
[23:41:18] <Runaway1956> https://www.navy.com
[23:42:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> got it backwards. nurses get their nurse training at college. s'why they get the commissions they do.
[23:42:25] <Runaway1956> Army is an equally good option, but Navy attracts the smarter ones, right Buzzard?
[23:42:40] <AzumaHazuki> *snerk*
[23:42:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> naw, that's the flyboys
[23:42:48] <Runaway1956> lol
[23:43:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> navy attracts an entirely different characteristic
[23:43:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt in the navy
[23:43:07] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- In The Navy
[23:43:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> plus yall bastards are anti-pirate
[23:44:12] <Runaway1956> But, more or less seriously, someone needs to do something about medical staff, and not wait for another year or twelve
[23:44:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> you could get nurses aids quickly, you can't get RNs quickly.
[23:45:21] <Runaway1956> Hmmmm - give me a choice between a nurse, and corpsman/medic - I think I'll go with the military training
[23:45:39] <Runaway1956> Not badmouthing nurses of course
[23:45:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> nurse knows how to do everything, corpsmen know what they know well but that's all they know.
[23:46:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> something like between a nurse's aid and an lpn i'd guess
[23:46:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> with a focus on trauma
[23:46:43] <Runaway1956> if we were to rank them with traditional medical terms, most corpsmen are physician's assistants
[23:46:56] <Runaway1956> def focus on trauma
[23:47:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> for an extremely limited subset of skills, yeah
[23:47:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> PAs are no joke
[23:47:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> and rns have just as much schooling as pas, just different focus.
[23:47:55] <Runaway1956> But, corpsman school is damned fine start - finish training and serve in nursing for 4 years, the worst of all this shit should be behind us
[23:49:06] <Runaway1956> How many years on average to become an RN? 8 or so?
[23:49:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, i can still hear my stepmom grumbling about the math i had to help her with to get her RN
[23:50:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> no idea. stepmom went to night school while waitressing during the day. took a while.
[23:50:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> well not all night classes, sometimes she had to take day ones cause that's all there was
[23:50:59] * Runaway1956 remembers shuffling schedules to make it to class
[23:51:19] <Runaway1956> not an easy row to hoe
[23:52:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> 40 hour schedule, 40 hour job, and she still insisted on cooking dinner and doing way too much of the housework
[23:52:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> dad wasn't allowed to cook. the rest of us liked edible stuff on our plates.
[23:53:34] * TheMightyBuzzard was bright enough to help out cooking and learn to bachelor without resorting to frozen pizzas and ramen
[23:53:39] <Runaway1956> beanies and weenies and macaroni and cheese -
[23:54:10] <Runaway1956> those early fatherhood days were kinda fun
[23:54:20] <Runaway1956> cooking "eggies" instead of grown up eggs
[23:54:24] <Runaway1956> and other silly shit
[23:54:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> early fatherhood you can get away with kraft dinner and cheerios
[23:54:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> kinda hard to get them to eat anything more interesting even
[23:55:02] <Runaway1956> yes and no - when the sick kiddie won't eat anything, you have to be creative
[23:55:50] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[23:56:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> TR's boy child's first introduction to Fruit Loops, he dubbed them Beautiful Cheerios
[23:57:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, speaking of food, mine's sitting on the stove getting cold
[23:57:23] * TheMightyBuzzard fucks off to his chicken sammiches
[23:57:29] <Runaway1956> your stove works in reverse?
[23:58:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> it does when you take stuff out the oven and put it on the stove