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[00:41:34] <Runaway1956> Time to get used to referring to President Liverspot
[00:42:31] <Runaway1956> For a few months, anyway, then it will be 'The President from India"
[00:45:20] <AzumaHazuki> what is your major malfunction, numbnuts?
[00:45:59] <AzumaHazuki> you should be on your knees begging for a Biden win. If Trump wins, social security and medicare go down the shitter and your shriveled, atherosclerotic Boomer ass gets to starve and freeze under a bridge somewhere
[00:47:13] <AzumaHazuki> you are no less a suicide-bombing nihilist than any terrorist in a dynamite vest if you'd condemn yourself to that to "own the libs." You wanna talk hate? THAT is hate.
[01:07:04] <Runaway1956> Huh - wifey just asked me if I saw the stories, Wisconsin and North Carolina suddenly have more votes than registered voters
[01:11:05] <Runaway1956> Probably stupid shit from Facebook
[01:11:12] <Runaway1956> I'm finding nothing
[01:12:06] * Runaway1956 suggests that 'Zumi expand her talking points
[01:17:29] <AzumaHazuki> why? that's all i have to say to you
[01:17:59] <AzumaHazuki> i know you're not going to change. you sold your soul ages ago. i just don't want you protesting that no one warned you when you're roasting in your own personal DIY Hell in 4 years or so
[01:21:33] <Runaway1956> *yawn* When every US city looks like Portland, you'll change your view of Democrats
[01:22:27] <Runaway1956> Van Eck is pretty white after all - when you've been hit over the head, and left for dead, for being too white, your attitude regarding law and order will change drastically
[01:23:28] <Runaway1956> Actually, Van Eck is far whiter than I am
[01:26:31] <Runaway1956> Dry beans . . .
[01:26:48] <Runaway1956> Just opened a pound of Pinto beans, and put them in water to soak
[01:27:13] <Runaway1956> Dear Wife insists that beans must be "picked" to find clods of dirt and little pebbles
[01:27:30] <Runaway1956> I just dump the damned bag, and she goes spaz on me
[01:27:57] <Runaway1956> need a pharmacist's little table and knife thingy to separate beans by ones and twos
[01:28:00] <Runaway1956> LOL
[01:28:16] <AzumaHazuki> "Van Eck is pretty white after all - when you've been hit over the head, and left for dead, for being too white, your attitude regarding law and order will change drastically"
[01:28:22] <AzumaHazuki> totally not a racist
[01:28:43] <Runaway1956> You've not seen the rioters marching down the streets filled with people dining out
[01:28:53] <Runaway1956> "RAISE YOUR FIST SAY HER NAME"
[01:29:05] <AzumaHazuki> please, that one line there reveals everything
[01:29:28] <Runaway1956> That's like you - you can't read past one line
[01:29:32] <Runaway1956> watch the videos
[01:29:49] <AzumaHazuki> who do you think you're fooling> you want law enforcement to "put those uppity darkies in their place (again)"
[01:29:59] <AzumaHazuki> do you really think we don't all know what you're about?
[01:30:02] <Runaway1956> That's your line
[01:30:07] <AzumaHazuki> no, it's yours
[01:30:25] <AzumaHazuki> just because you don't outright drop the N-bomb doesn't mean you ain't saying it as loud as you can in your head
[01:30:33] <Runaway1956> nope, I call for law and order, which distinguishes between "protesting" and "rioting'
[01:30:47] <Runaway1956> your people think a city being burnt to the ground is somehow peaceful
[01:31:04] <Runaway1956> so you hear voices in your head
[01:31:14] <AzumaHazuki> stop pretending you're fooling anyone with this shit
[01:31:28] <AzumaHazuki> fuck, THAT really boils my beans, that you think we're all as stupid as or stupider than you
[01:31:31] <Runaway1956> You just said that you hear voices that aren't real
[01:31:47] * AzumaHazuki facepalms
[01:32:09] <AzumaHazuki> how childish are you going to get? you fucked up and said the quiet part loud AGAIN and now are trying to brazen your way out of it
[01:32:16] <Runaway1956> Give it 18 months after inauguration - nightly riots in dozens of cities
[01:32:41] <Runaway1956> "fiery but mostly peaceful riots"
[01:32:42] <AzumaHazuki> your supposed fear of riots and desire for "law and order" is incredibly transparent.
[01:32:52] <Runaway1956> Yes, you are
[01:33:10] <AzumaHazuki> reminds me of the smarmy little fucks in elementary school who harass and torment one kid hoping he'll hit one of them and get suspended
[01:33:17] <AzumaHazuki> right down to "i know you are but what am i?"
[01:33:22] <Runaway1956> How long will it take to rebuild Kenosha after it was gutted by rioters?
[01:33:25] <Runaway1956> you don't even care
[01:33:31] <AzumaHazuki> like you do?
[01:33:33] <AzumaHazuki> horseshit
[01:33:46] <Runaway1956> you don't care, and you don't give a shit
[01:33:54] <AzumaHazuki> "and now you're hearing voices"
[01:33:55] <Runaway1956> it's not YOUR money that was burnt up
[01:34:03] <AzumaHazuki> it was yours?
[01:34:12] <Runaway1956> It was my brother's money
[01:34:17] <Runaway1956> working people
[01:34:49] <AzumaHazuki> you know i wondered what the fuck would make you care about anything outside your own skull. figures it's tribal loyalty...
[01:34:58] <AzumaHazuki> so, you have a brother in kenosha?
[01:35:14] <Runaway1956> Uh-huh - how long can you live without working men and women providing your every need?
[01:35:32] <AzumaHazuki> have you forgotten I AM one of those working women? and I save lives
[01:35:32] <Runaway1956> Including but not limited to drugs that you provide
[01:35:36] <Runaway1956> pull your head out
[01:35:42] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[01:35:42] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[01:35:55] <AzumaHazuki> nice try, but that argument fails in this context. I AM one of those working women, a lifesaver, and have been even when homeless
[01:36:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> you two are boring.
[01:36:14] <AzumaHazuki> feel free to leave :)
[01:36:19] <Runaway1956> You may be, until you are too white for a bunch of rioter's tastes
[01:36:42] <AzumaHazuki> see, now we come back to this again. you are fucking terrified of minority people
[01:36:43] <AzumaHazuki> why?
[01:37:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> um, they're currently burning shit and occasionally killing folks?
[01:37:20] <Runaway1956> Because dem politics is all about identity politics - let the rioters riot, screw the consequences
[01:37:25] <AzumaHazuki> my hypothesis: you imagine yourself black and ask what you would do to white folks if you were, and the answer involves more blood than the entire Saw franchise. Extrapolating from this, you assume everyone is as awful as you
[01:37:46] <Runaway1956> I have done exactly that - imagine myself black
[01:37:48] <AzumaHazuki> then again that may require more intelligence, empathy, and humanity than you re capable of
[01:38:01] <Runaway1956> there would have been an insurrection in New York City over 'stop and frisk'
[01:38:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> zuma, my dick has more empathy than you
[01:38:10] <Runaway1956> but not riots burning city streets down
[01:38:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> you have no clue what goes through anyone's heart unless they're just like you
[01:38:35] <AzumaHazuki> your definition of empathy is empty, Uzzard. "knowing how peoples' emotions work mechanistically" is not empathy
[01:38:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes. it in fact is.
[01:38:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> you're thinking of sympathy
[01:38:58] <Runaway1956> And, zumi claims to be high up on the karma chain
[01:39:00] <AzumaHazuki> you just prove what a complete psychopath you are every time you broach the subject. just shut up already. no one's buying
[01:39:18] <AzumaHazuki> compared to you, Runaway? you can't even see me.
[01:39:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> only to you, because you can't empathize with me
[01:39:33] <lld> >then again that may require more intelligence, empathy, and humanity than you re capable of
[01:39:40] <lld> the very font of empathy, folks
[01:39:52] <AzumaHazuki> you know, Uzzard, I've tried. I have to emulate shutting down an entire section of my brain to to it. it's horrifying
[01:39:59] <AzumaHazuki> everything you say and do makes perfect sense when i do that
[01:40:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, caring progressives that hate everyone not just like themselves
[01:40:19] <Runaway1956> 'Zumi knows what she's talking about because she has lots of rez indian freinds, lol
[01:40:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh insults as an argument? naw. you lose
[01:40:35] <AzumaHazuki> please, if I hated you people you'd be dead.
[01:40:42] <AzumaHazuki> your opsec sucks. especially yours, runaway
[01:40:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> feel free to try
[01:40:47] <Runaway1956> yeah, yeah, goddeses and all that shit
[01:40:51] <lld> now internet tough guy
[01:41:12] <lld> 300 confirmed raids on taliban
[01:41:29] <AzumaHazuki> just a statement of fact. they don't hide too well for proclaiming to be so paranoid
[01:41:31] <AzumaHazuki> it's kind of weird
[01:41:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't do opsec, i just don't want pizzas i didn't order
[01:41:51] <AzumaHazuki> heh, pizzas. that's cute. you think it'd be pizzas if i were ever to go the pranking route
[01:42:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> wasn't talking about you
[01:42:05] <Runaway1956> *rolleyes*
[01:42:05] * TheMightyBuzzard eyes chromas
[01:42:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> the people i actually like here couldn't help themselves
[01:42:47] <AzumaHazuki> we've gone far afield here. I know runaway will never change and uzzard is physically miswired. i'm not attempting to make anyone have a come-to-jesus moment, as it were
[01:42:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> and it'd be funny like the first five times
[01:42:57] * TheMightyBuzzard laughs
[01:43:04] <AzumaHazuki> just putting it out there as a matter of record (and letting stupid runaway's stupid runaway mouth condemn him further)
[01:43:07] * Runaway1956 laughs too
[01:43:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> please, brownshirt, tell us more about empathy.
[01:43:13] <lld> wow very empathy
[01:43:27] <AzumaHazuki> empathy does't mean nice, sweetie :D
[01:43:37] <AzumaHazuki> Good is Not Nice, Good is Not Soft, etc
[01:43:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh but it does when it's on my foot?
[01:43:43] <Runaway1956> Huh - imaging that - she got that almost right
[01:43:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> fuck off with your double standard
[01:44:15] <AzumaHazuki> what double standard? empathy, again, does not mean nice. i can understand how someone feels and be moved, but I don't have to bend to their will
[01:44:34] <lld> and people do the same, not bend to your will
[01:44:34] <AzumaHazuki> even if i get caught up in the resonance enough to leave me shaken i have to keep reality in mid
[01:44:38] <Runaway1956> at the same time you hate everyone who doesn't agree with you lol
[01:44:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> see, you'd really annoy me if you could argue with a shit. that's exactly what i've said multiple times.
[01:44:53] <AzumaHazuki> lld, did you miss the part where i said I'm not trying to make anyone change? i know it's futile
[01:45:10] * Runaway1956 wanders off to make wifey believe that he is "picking" through the beans
[01:45:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup, you're just an angry monkey flinging shit
[01:45:11] <AzumaHazuki> one of them is physically incapable of relating to other people and the other has been fatally radicalized
[01:45:17] <lld> AzumaHazuki: yeah, nobody here is wanting to make you change either
[01:45:25] <lld> just pointing out your irony
[01:45:27] <AzumaHazuki> no one can. change comes from within.
[01:45:39] <AzumaHazuki> the difference is, my mind isn't a solipsistic, selfish black hole
[01:45:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> you're fucked then, you've never looked there
[01:45:44] <lld> ironic
[01:45:57] <AzumaHazuki> hardly. this is the human condition, lld
[01:45:57] <Runaway1956> aluminic too
[01:46:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> so, how many lawsuits ya think before everyone says "fuck it, just give it to kanye"?
[01:47:13] <lld> I guess azuma is above human condition
[01:47:18] <AzumaHazuki> so what WILL you whackadoodles do if Biden wins?
[01:47:25] <Runaway1956> alas, kanye has less than a snowball's chance in hell
[01:47:29] <lld> nothing, go back to work
[01:47:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> same thing i'll do if trump wins, suffer through it
[01:47:45] <Runaway1956> hunker down and wait for the stupid
[01:47:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> when you grow up you get used to not everything in life going your way
[01:48:22] <AzumaHazuki> hah! you don't seem to have
[01:48:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> me? i'm a calm blue ocean. or rather a fishing lake.
[01:48:45] <AzumaHazuki> you've cut yourself off from everyone and everything to live in half a house and whack off all day in place of actual intimacy with actual humans
[01:48:46] * chromas sends TheMightyBuzzard some empty pizza boxes
[01:48:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas cheapskate
[01:49:05] <lld> chromas: have you tried sending steel rebars and other construction materials? :)
[01:49:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, try again. not remotely close.
[01:49:19] * Runaway1956 snatches the pizza boxes and puts dead bugs in them
[01:49:26] <lld> iirc they will allow delayed payment
[01:49:30] <chromas> I didn't cheap out on the pizza; I just already ate it
[01:49:38] <AzumaHazuki> your brother's suicide pushed you over the edge, Uzzard. you stopped even trying
[01:49:50] <lld> such empathy
[01:50:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> but you have to think that because me being a caring human being means you have not clue one about other people and really, truly are fresh out of empathy
[01:50:07] <Runaway1956> as always, she goes for the most possibly painful shit
[01:50:15] <AzumaHazuki> empathy doesn't mean being nice. it's a prerequisite for figuring these things out
[01:50:32] <lld> yeah, a psychopath have loads of it too
[01:50:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, it means being able to tell what someone else is feeling. you can't. not even close.
[01:50:39] <AzumaHazuki> and yes, empathy allows me to do that :) it's a deadly weapon sometimes. having lost friends closer to me than family, I can understand what it does to someone
[01:50:40] <lld> they figure out lots of things
[01:50:45] <Runaway1956> again, somewhat close to correct 'zumi
[01:50:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> you are a straight up sociopath with bad observational skills.
[01:51:02] <AzumaHazuki> movie theaters aren't open yet. put the projector away
[01:51:11] <AzumaHazuki> we all, every one of us, know what you are. you showed us too many times
[01:51:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure sure
[01:51:40] * Runaway1956 knows what Buzzard is
[01:51:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> short?
[01:51:52] <AzumaHazuki> how many times do i need to say this? empathy does not mean i have to make niceynice on people who don't deserve it. even if i can feel their pain by analogy, sometimes things have to be done and the pain has to be powered through
[01:51:59] * Runaway1956 would trade fifty 'zumis for one buzzard
[01:52:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> the very model of a modern major general?
[01:52:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> batman?
[01:52:12] <Runaway1956> even though buzzards can be kinda smelly sometimes
[01:52:26] <AzumaHazuki> and the dark side of empathy is that it can be used as an awful adjunct weapon...
[01:52:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> zuma, i'm not saying you aren't nice. i'm saying you have zero capacity for reading the emotions of others. zero.
[01:52:47] <Runaway1956> That's the hatred I keep telling you about zumi
[01:52:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> you think you do but you're not even in the same ballpark.
[01:53:00] <AzumaHazuki> that's in "nicht einmal falsch" territory, Uzzard...
[01:53:13] <AzumaHazuki> just because you don't like what i'm doing doesn't mean it's wrong
[01:53:33] <Runaway1956> Huh - now internalize what you just said
[01:53:46] <lld> hah
[01:53:55] <AzumaHazuki> now look: you never healed up after your brother offed himself. i haven't got all the facts as to why, but i don't need to know them in this contxt. Your ADHD has been a problem too, though less of one than one would expect
[01:53:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> see, i can sit here and get a pretty good read on your motivations. or runaways, or chromas'. and you think you can but you're so fucking wrong it makes clown shoes look black tie.
[01:54:02] <AzumaHazuki> even your small frame bugs you sometimes
[01:54:13] <pinchy> stix have been poked?
[01:54:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> newp. i don't get bugged.
[01:54:36] <AzumaHazuki> oh this should be hilarious. what are my motives? :) I bet you'll get this wrong even though i tell people what they are every few posts
[01:54:41] <Runaway1956> STYX NOT STIX!!
[01:55:18] <Runaway1956> You definitely have this thing about punishing men for being men
[01:55:25] <AzumaHazuki> Wrong!
[01:55:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> you've got a bleeding heart because folks in your past got hurt and you don't much care what it takes to stop that.
[01:55:29] <Runaway1956> but I rather enjoy my toxic masculinity
[01:55:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> and you've got shitpots of anger still clinging to you from those events.
[01:56:00] <AzumaHazuki> er...that's about 1/5 correct, Uzzard. That is a lot more than I was expecting, actually
[01:56:09] <Runaway1956> 1/5 your ass
[01:56:14] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[01:56:32] <chromas> What's my motivation?
[01:56:42] <AzumaHazuki> just one thing: why precisely is anger bad in and of itself? Anger is the part of you that loves you, that understands what happened to you was wrong and wants you to keep striving to make it right
[01:56:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, keks
[01:56:52] * Runaway1956 isn't sure that chromas is real so he probably has no motivation
[01:56:58] <lld> see, this is why we can't have good things, it all gets fucked up by people who don't care what it takes to stop bad things
[01:57:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, because that shit poisons your soul
[01:57:08] <chromas> Feck; how'd he know?
[01:57:15] * AzumaHazuki rolls eyes...see this is where it's going off the rails with you lot
[01:57:16] <lld> they don't even care it causes more bad things
[01:57:22] <Runaway1956> TheMightyBuzzard++
[01:57:22] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 390
[01:57:32] <Runaway1956> the shit poisons your soul for sure
[01:57:44] <pinchy> still dont know what Azumas political views are
[01:57:48] <lld> the irony is poetic
[01:57:58] <AzumaHazuki> again: if i were really that kind of unthinking, uninhibited moron who would do whatever comes to mind to solve what she perceives as problems...well, like I said, you two wouldn't be in here :)
[01:58:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> being angry in the moment: useful. holding that shit for decades: you become a hate filled, miserable person.
[01:58:11] <chromas> Got one of those cheap USB endoscope cameras. Pretty spiffy but I can't really get it down the shower drain
[01:58:26] * Runaway1956 remembers 'zumi's post "six fucking years old"
[01:58:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> i didn't say you couldn't reason. nazis could reason just fine. chimps can reason.
[01:58:42] <Runaway1956> and she thinks that it's only her, or only girls, or only people like her
[01:58:52] <AzumaHazuki> wrong again 9_9
[01:59:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> reason don't mean you're not a horrible person though. just means you've thought about something.
[01:59:08] <chromas> plz don't rearrange those words, Runaway
[01:59:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> alphabetically
[01:59:52] <AzumaHazuki> of course things that happen to you early on shape your view. but the thing about anger is, you can make it a cutting torch flame, or you can make it an uncontrolled explosion. only one is useful
[02:00:17] <AzumaHazuki> how in God's name do you think i made it this far with no vices and no doctor meds?
[02:00:17] <Runaway1956> been thre, done that, grew past it 'zumi
[02:00:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> your view is under your control. you do not have to keep the shit in your head what you got dealt
[02:00:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> um, that's what we're telling you. you didn't. you're 90 kinds of fucked up.
[02:01:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> functional does not mean healthy
[02:01:04] <AzumaHazuki> there is a kind of inner alchemy that needs to be done with anger. listen to it, acknowledge it, and tell it what it's angry about isn't happening any longer and now is the time to rebuild
[02:01:16] <AzumaHazuki> yeah, welcome to the human condition
[02:01:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, you use it if it's immediately useful and let it the fuck go if it's not.
[02:01:39] <AzumaHazuki> ah, someone's not much for chemistry then :)
[02:01:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> you can always get new mad later
[02:02:13] <AzumaHazuki> i made the connection between this sort of inner alchemy and my interest in actual science-y chemistry ages ago. the analogy is surprisingly close
[02:02:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> that inner alchemy is causing you pain and bringing no benefit.
[02:02:40] <Runaway1956> whatever - you have to keep the anger bubbling though
[02:02:46] <Runaway1956> turn the fucking fire down
[02:03:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> and making you a hell of a lot of unpleasant to everyone around you. you spread not joy in your wake but low-grade anger and resentment.
[02:03:13] <AzumaHazuki> you'd be amazed, uzzard. pain, yes, but more benefit than you think. again: how do you think i survived this long by myself with no assistance
[02:03:24] <AzumaHazuki> also? here's a clue: I'm nothing like this in meatspace.
[02:03:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure you're not.
[02:03:48] <Runaway1956> ROFLMAO at meatspace self perception
[02:03:52] <AzumaHazuki> quiet and a bit withdrawn, yes, but i get on well with people at work. soylent is where i let my hair down, so to speak
[02:04:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> your coworkers don't groan when they see you coming because you're always pissed off about something?
[02:04:08] <Runaway1956> you mean 'fearful'
[02:04:25] <AzumaHazuki> No, they don't. Actually we've been talking recipes and drug discovery a lot recently
[02:04:33] <AzumaHazuki> they keep going "wait, you have an earth science degree?"
[02:04:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh hell, quiet, withdrawn, always angry... red flag law! red flag law!
[02:05:19] <AzumaHazuki> the last conversation was about the difference between benzoctamine and maprotiline. same molcule save for the length of the alkyl chain, very different effects
[02:05:46] <AzumaHazuki> which is weird as hell since everyone assumd the anticholinergic properties of tetracyclic antidepressants were mediated by, well, the tetracycle
[02:06:16] <AzumaHazuki> so we're all sitting around trying to figure out what the fuck adding two more carbons onto the tail does to change the properties so much
[02:06:59] <AzumaHazuki> see? just need to plunk me down in a circle of other biochem nerds and we're golden :)
[02:07:01] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[02:07:16] <Runaway1956> I think we all realize that shop talk is not people-to-people talk
[02:07:25] <Runaway1956> FFS I can talk shop with people I hate
[02:07:38] <AzumaHazuki> that's what the recipes and stuff are for. and the sharing of family photos
[02:07:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> everyone can. it's called going to work.
[02:08:08] <AzumaHazuki> i might be babysitting one co-worker's grandson next weekend for example
[02:08:14] <Runaway1956> can work with a person for 90 years, and still not know what motivates him
[02:08:39] <Runaway1956> worked for a boss for more than a decade who has no idea how many kids I have, how long I've been married, or anything
[02:08:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's a large part of why any group of guys working together will spend a large amount of time giving each other shit. it lets us figure out how everyone else reacts. and gets us a laugh or two.
[02:09:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> and it's why a group of guys will, on average, be much better than a group of women at teamwork.
[02:09:13] <AzumaHazuki> bleh. sounds needlessly adversarial
[02:09:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'functional and effective.
[02:09:37] <AzumaHazuki> heh, until it isn't
[02:09:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> then you found a line that's useful to know later
[02:10:01] <AzumaHazuki> one thing i've learned is there's a lot more sniping, backbiting, and gossip among men at work than i suspected
[02:10:18] <AzumaHazuki> i swear guys sound like the seventh grade girls' locker room sometimes, just more farting and less makeup
[02:10:21] <Runaway1956> almost as much as among women
[02:10:41] <AzumaHazuki> huge surprise. it's almost like we're evolved from social primates or something
[02:10:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> get them doing something physical. office jobs are too uptight and you have women who don't get it fucking up the system's effectiveness.
[02:11:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'true. we rarely tire of dick and fart jokes.
[02:11:29] <AzumaHazuki> too many generalizations. that pharmacy is over 3/4 women and we get shit done
[02:11:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> you talk general principles, you get generalizations. you wanna talk specific workplaces, say so.
[02:12:18] <AzumaHazuki> hospitals are different i suspect. peoples' lives are at stake and we see some awful things
[02:12:23] <AzumaHazuki> yes, even us pill monkeys
[02:12:52] <chromas> Pacman vs Dr. Mario
[02:13:12] * TheMightyBuzzard grumbles at stripe
[02:13:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't wanna update our information, assholes. it hasn't changed. if it had, i would have updated it.
[02:16:32] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: "s'true. we rarely tire of dick and fart jokes." -- speak for yourself, I am rarely interested in dick or fart jokes. Seems, ummm, juvenile to me.
[02:17:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes but you're crazy. you joined the editorial team on purpose.
[02:17:42] <AzumaHazuki> consider the source -_-
[02:17:55] <AzumaHazuki> as a dog returneth to its vomit etc etc
[02:17:58] <requerdanos> I, too, tired of "dick and fart jokes" long ago
[02:19:38] <Bytram> requerdanos++
[02:19:38] <Bender> karma - requerdanos: 7
[02:25:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, ncommander poked to see if he wants stripe using his info as contact guy. if not i'll try badgering Deucalion or Bytram into it.
[02:28:00] <Runaway1956> Heh - people with plastic face shields, without mask
[02:28:24] <AzumaHazuki> that doesn't help from what i've read
[02:28:42] <Runaway1956> I don't even think it's good for virtue signaling
[02:32:07] <Runaway1956> anyone heard how many voters total, nationwide? Everyone talks about records, but I haven't heard a national estimate
[02:34:52] <Runaway1956> pundits regurgitating 20 hour old data, time to turn off the stream, maybe listen to music
[02:37:17] <Runaway1956> yes, six hours of looney tunes - appropriate
[02:37:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> i fully expect us to end up with more ballots than citizens this time around
[02:37:54] <Runaway1956> I heard that Buzzard, but I'm not finding evidence
[02:38:03] * Runaway1956 is obviously outside the loop
[02:38:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm aware that there is a loop, that's about it. been working, eating, napping, or playing torchlight 3 all day.
[02:39:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> you know, the shit that really matters
[02:39:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> speaking of, it sure as shit looks like they really phoned torchlight 3 in. not nearly as good as torchlight 2
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[02:47:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Find Harmful Chemicals in Household Dust - https://sylnt.us
[03:12:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> latest electoral map: https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net
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[03:17:02] <AzumaHazuki> looks about right :v
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[06:02:56] <pinchy> so BLM signs are passover for whitey?
[07:08:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Uber, Lyft Drivers In California To Remain Independent Contractors - https://sylnt.us
[07:11:51] <soycow9642> https://twitter.com
[07:11:53] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter ( https://mobile.twitter.com )
[07:55:38] <FatPhil> Keep up, Buzz- chromas posted that img link yesterday, and I made an incredibly witty comment about Manitoba.
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[08:28:59] <FatPhil> https://mobile.twitter.com
[08:29:00] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter
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[14:02:23] <FatPhil> https://i.imgur.com
[14:05:27] <lld> swear on me mum
[14:07:28] <FatPhil> yo momma, amen.
[14:07:55] <FatPhil> or should that be: yo momma, so help me god!
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[14:18:08] <SoyCow0495> =asub https://www.sciencealert.com
[14:19:00] <SoyCow0495> #submit https://www.sciencealert.com
[14:19:01] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[14:19:26] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
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[14:38:33] <Fnord666> #smake systemd
[14:38:33] * MrPlow smakes systemd upside the head with a sack of angry weasels
[15:14:09] <Runaway1956> https://nationalfile.com
[15:16:06] <Runaway1956> https://redstate.com
[15:19:56] <FatPhil> It must be terrible to be so feeble-minded that your paranoid delusions are triggered by a pen.
[15:20:35] <FatPhil> why hasn't medical and psychiatric science advanced enough to help such people, there must me some kind of anti-psychotic that can help them.
[15:21:24] <Runaway1956> The pen in question seems to be illegible to the vote recording machines
[15:21:32] <Runaway1956> https://redstate.com
[15:22:04] <Runaway1956> The machine "sees" ball point pen marks, it doesn't "see" felt tip marks
[15:22:09] <FatPhil> there are procedures in place to cope with such eventualities in any functioning democracy.
[15:22:30] <FatPhil> Do you have humans doing anything, or have you given over all responsibility to dumb machines?
[15:22:41] <Runaway1956> mmmm-hmmmmm - there are also procedures in place to deal with attempts at disenfranchisement
[15:22:47] <FatPhil> 'cos if it's the latter, well, you're kinda getting what you deserve.
[15:23:00] <FatPhil> whataboutwhat?
[15:23:12] <soycow9642> democracy = use ballpens
[15:23:18] <Runaway1956> Apparently you didn't read the story, you just skimmed the headline
[15:23:46] <Runaway1956> in a Trump area, poll workers insisted that voters use felt tips which were unreadable by the machines
[15:24:03] <Runaway1956> The votes can still be counted by hand, and apparently that is what is happening now
[15:24:32] <FatPhil> I read the first link, which contained enough information such that a logical contradiction was detected, implying that the situation was basically a paranoid delusion.
[15:24:52] <soycow9642> if a ballot isn't counted by a machine, it's not democracy!!1one!
[15:25:19] <FatPhil> at what point in the process does the scanning take place?
[15:25:32] <Runaway1956> that is close to right soycow - in order to get your vote counted, you have to make a scene
[15:25:48] <Runaway1956> scanning would take place after marking your ballot with the pen, apparently
[15:26:00] <Runaway1956> since I didn't vote in Utah, I can't say for certain
[15:26:05] <soycow9642> you made one, so your vote has been counted. Next.
[15:26:30] <Runaway1956> I made one?
[15:26:57] <soycow9642> scene. If you like you can make an interpretative dance too
[15:27:51] <Runaway1956> already done in India - https://www.aljazeera.com
[15:28:35] <soycow9642> make one for trump now
[15:28:55] <FatPhil> so the voter himself scans his own ballot?
[15:29:39] <soycow9642> much later
[15:29:53] <FatPhil> it was a yes/no question
[15:30:41] <FatPhil> if you can't answer a yes/no question with a yes or no answer, why were you considered competent to vote, one has to wonder...
[15:31:36] <Runaway1956> The case in question, it seems the voter himself did NOT scan his own ballot, because the scanner can't read it - the ballot is "spoiled"
[15:31:59] <Runaway1956> and dem volunteers are laughing about it
[15:33:09] <soycow9642> no, one doesn't have to wonder. Does this answer to your question?
[15:33:15] <FatPhil> that would be an absurd protocol which no sensible democracy would enact. As such, as an extraordinary claim, the burdon of proof would be on you - let's see the evidence to back that claim up.
[15:34:07] <Runaway1956> ????
[15:34:34] <FatPhil> And you're equivocating on the verb "scan" too.
[15:36:02] <soycow9642> =yt 3i0DMbCKnAg burdon
[15:36:53] <FatPhil> =yt burdon war
[15:36:54] <soycow9642> =yt 3i0DMbCKnAg
[15:37:10] <soycow9642> (dead)
[15:38:09] <FatPhil> soycow9642: you realise that "much later" is a "yes" answer, and then when forced to clarify, you said "no".
[15:38:18] <FatPhil> Are you sure you're not in politics?
[15:39:07] <soycow9642> maybe, may be not.
[15:39:40] <FatPhil> you'd get my vote, but I'd make sure it didn't scan
[15:40:48] <soycow9642> perfect, let it be counted by human volunteers. They deserve the reward of pain they sought for.
[15:43:51] <soycow9642> =yt animals we gotta get out of this place
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[15:53:14] <Runaway1956> http://legacy.waltonandjohnson.com
[15:53:24] <Runaway1956> John Walton died about a year ago
[15:53:38] <Runaway1956> Imagine the crew's surprise to learn that he voted in the last election
[15:54:04] <Runaway1956> That is, THIS election
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[16:11:35] <soycow9642> 108389/1201
[16:22:29] <soycow9642> =g volvo electric heavy trucks 2021
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[16:25:18] <soycow9642> =yt karma chameleon++
[16:25:40] <Teckla> You come and goooo, you come and goooooooo
[16:26:06] <FatPhil> I'd rather have a nice cup of tea
[16:26:22] * Teckla chuckles at all the people freaking out over the election and vote counting
[16:27:22] * soycow9642 chuckles at Teckla chuckling at all the people freaking out over the election and vote counting
[16:27:43] <Teckla> Chuckling is good for the soul :)
[16:30:45] <soycow9642> FatPhil - here's a rock sort of tea. Iron monk no less. https://www.youtube.com
[16:36:28] <soycow9642> teckla https://www.youtube.com
[16:37:05] <Runaway1956> =submit https://phys.org
[16:37:43] <soycow9642> =don't submit no more, it's dead, Jim.
[16:38:03] <FatPhil> there's more than one bot you can submit via, though
[16:38:16] <Runaway1956> kk
[16:38:32] <soycow9642> ima listening for other bots
[16:39:12] <Runaway1956> systemd didn't get the covid did he? Someone exposed him to 5G?
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[16:47:43] <FatPhil> #weather
[16:47:44] <MrPlow> Raekoja plats 9, Tallinn, Estonia - Today: "Windy in the afternoon." 49/46F, Humidity: 84%, Precip: 39%, Wind ~19mph. Fri: "Mostly cloudy throughout the day." 52/44F, Humidity: 80%, Precip: 1%, Wind ~15mph. Sat: "Mostly cloudy throughout the day." 50/44F, Humidity: 90%, Precip: 15%, Wind ~13mph.
[16:50:36] <soycow9642> Covid weather +208
[16:51:33] <soycow9642> https://www.youtube.com
[16:52:22] <soycow9642> Still chucklin'
[16:58:14] <RandomFactor> =submit Spoiler Magnetars https://www.wired.com
[16:58:46] * RandomFactor curses
[16:59:21] <RandomFactor> !submit Spoiler Magnetars https://www.wired.com
[16:59:46] * RandomFactor blasphemes
[17:00:03] <RandomFactor> ~submit Spoiler Magnetars https://www.wired.com
[17:00:38] * RandomFactor calls down the wrath of the almighty on the Oedipal bots
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[17:03:24] <RandomFactor> #submit Spoiler Magnetars https://www.wired.com
[17:03:24] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[17:03:50] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
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[17:04:36] * RandomFactor declares victory and waits for the final counts to come in
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[19:22:47] <FatPhil> Looks like the .ee govt have passed new covid legislation. Apparently, it seems compulsory, when outdoors, to be coughing all the time. Based on a sample taken (auditarily) just now.
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[19:46:26] <RandomFactor> =submit
[19:46:32] <RandomFactor> !submit
[19:46:35] <RandomFactor> ~submit
[19:46:39] <RandomFactor> #submit
[19:46:39] <MrPlow> #submit <url> or #submit <url> <what you have to say about it>
[19:46:56] <RandomFactor> #submit https://phys.org
[19:46:59] <MrPlow> got http response code 400
[19:47:25] * RandomFactor curls up and starts rocking back and forth
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[19:57:38] * Ingar actually tests the link and finds MrPlow is talking bullshit
[19:59:16] <Ingar> I can't wait to have a modem cooled to -271°C
[20:00:35] <FatPhil> I can just imagine quantum internet - it's the superposition of offensive and garbage.
[20:02:24] <AzumaHazuki> so just like now?
[20:04:44] <FatPhil> that's why it was so easy to imagine, I'm not a psychic
[20:06:40] <Fnord666> #smake systemd
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[20:08:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Trail of Bubbles Leads Scientists to New Coronavirus Clue - https://sylnt.us - I'm-forever-blowing-bubbles
[20:13:18] <AzumaHazuki> they missed a perfectly good Don Ho reference
[20:38:03] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: s/Don Ho/Lawrence Welk/
[20:38:03] <SedBot> <Bytram> <AzumaHazuki> they missed a perfectly good Lawrence Welk reference
[20:40:08] <Bytram> whereto? https://youtu.be
[20:40:21] <Bytram> =titles on
[20:43:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ingar, he can't talk bullshit. i'd have to program him to first and that's too much bother. phys.org is pissy about user agents.
[20:47:13] <Bytram> nap time
[20:53:54] <FatPhil> which soylent channel is used for their C&C? https://www.zerohedge.com
[21:14:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno. we use #irpg for ours.
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[21:15:51] <chromas> I got some footage of UPS not finding our house https://www.youtube.com
[21:15:53] <systemd> ^ 03How Many Times Did Spongebob Squarepants Miss The Bus?
[21:17:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> you need a cron job to restart systemd
[21:17:49] <chromas> I figured out it was already running but wasn't automatically coming into the channel in order to discourage shitpost subs
[21:18:00] <chromas> but it turns out people just use MrPlow instead
[21:18:07] <AzumaHazuki> fun fact: processes spawned by the cron daemon are Children of the Cron :v
[21:18:24] * TheMightyBuzzard groans
[21:18:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki++
[21:18:28] <Bender> karma - azumahazuki: 39
[21:20:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> so, i'm getting to be pretty damned precise with a circle saw. built a respectable cabinet with one today.
[21:24:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> still prefer a table saw and radial arm saw for cabinet work though. even a thirty-second of an inch off shows on cabinet work.
[21:24:38] <FatPhil> AzumaHazuki++ oh, god, that's pretty bad
[21:24:38] <Bender> karma - azumahazuki: 40
[21:26:52] <AzumaHazuki> apparently awful punsterism runs in the family, on the father's side? my uncle Harold was terrible
[21:27:19] <AzumaHazuki> my girlfriend is awful too. it's the proof we deserve one another
[21:28:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> bad jokes and puns are a job requirement for uncles.
[21:30:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, barring any further asshattery on the part of the electrical inspector, the rough-in at the church should be done wednesday. the building code one was done yesterday.
[21:32:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> electrical inspector has a seething hatred for homeowners doing their own wiring though, so he found three nitpicks that we could have fixed while he was there and failed us.
[21:36:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> remaining crap: cleanup, sheetrocking (contractor for that), installing switches/outlets/fixtures, painting, hanging a few doors, running smurf pipe for the cable guy so he doesn't have to do anything but push the cable through the conduit, two dozen other minor things that will probably take half a day each, and then the final inspection
[21:38:17] <Fnord666> progress++
[21:38:17] <Bender> karma - progress: 4
[21:38:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> still may take us till christmas to get moved in but hopefully not
[21:39:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> got on a roll today and forgot to stop for lunch until 2:30
[21:39:39] <Fnord666> bonus points for contracting the sheetrock out. I hate hanging it
[21:43:32] * Runaway1956 wonders if ANYONE does old fashioned plastering
[21:43:50] <chromas> Finally! https://babylonbee.com
[21:43:50] <systemd> ^ 03Playing Christmas Music Before Thanksgiving Now A Federal Crime
[21:47:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't hate it but i'd be a fuckload slower than anyone who does it for a living
[21:48:06] <chromas> Cinder blocks all around!
[21:48:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, i wish. my favoritest country station went all christmas music the on the first.
[21:48:41] <Runaway1956> Bahhh - cinder block maybe for outer shell - I've never seen a block building I wanted to live in
[21:49:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> whole basement is outer wall cinder block. two layers and an air gap though.
[21:49:24] <Runaway1956> Now, Cinder block, bricked, with an inner wood frame would be really energy efficient
[21:49:51] <Runaway1956> Only place I've ever seen that was in a hospital TMB
[21:50:35] <Runaway1956> Prison used a double block wall, with grout filler in all the cores, and between the walls in a few places, no air
[21:51:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> the folks who built it were mostly doing massive overkill, except where they'd hired someone's brother-in-law to bone the canid for them
[21:51:27] * Runaway1956 admires massive overkill
[21:52:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++ #smoke break
[21:52:01] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 792
[21:53:45] <chromas> How about vacuum-sealed cinder blocks?
[21:54:28] <Runaway1956> Good luck with vacuum sealing your blocks . . .
[21:54:34] <FatPhil> cavity wall insulation foam is a building material here
[21:55:05] <FatPhil> I'm just waiting for someone to commission an igloo made from it and nothing else.
[21:55:25] <Runaway1956> Best-use case for those insulating foams for blocks, it to prevent water accumulating in the block
[21:55:53] <Runaway1956> Or, maybe you don't mean what I thought you meant?
[21:56:23] <FatPhil> binary thing that expands to fill everything
[21:56:38] <FatPhil> ^ hypertechnical explanation
[21:57:05] <Runaway1956> Oh - I thought you meant blue styrene instulation board or those little cubes that fit inside of blocks
[21:57:31] <chromas> spray cheese insulation
[22:01:06] <Runaway1956> Not a real fan of pinto beans, but my beans were pretty good
[22:01:27] <Runaway1956> The horde will run through the kitchen soon, and eat them all in passing
[22:02:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> blocks are empty. air's a better insulator than most anything if it can't blow around.
[22:02:17] <Runaway1956> exactly
[22:03:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh, no mod bombs over the election week. whodathunk it?
[22:08:24] <RandomFactor> Runaway1956: s/it to/is to/
[22:08:56] * RandomFactor mutters about stupid abusable things that require ops privs not being available to potential abusers
[22:11:23] <RandomFactor> Runaway1956: s/exactly/precisely/
[22:11:23] <SedBot> <RandomFactor> <Runaway1956> precisely
[22:11:26] <RandomFactor> YES!
[22:11:48] * RandomFactor foresees so much fun with this
[22:13:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't even remember who SedBot belongs to
[22:13:43] <chromas> FooBar BazBot
[22:14:05] <chromas> But he gone so I'm runnin' it now
[22:14:15] * chromas hoards all the bots
[22:16:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> which reminds me, when you gonna get exec back up and running?
[22:17:59] <chromas> I never got a copy from cmn32480. I don't know how different his copy was from the github edition. S'pose I could just pull that
[22:18:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Researchers Can Read [some of] what People are Typing During Video Calls - https://sylnt.us - what-are-you-typing-Dave?
[22:19:24] <FatPhil> Surely it's time for a repeat of this? https://mashable.com
[22:19:25] <systemd> ^ 03Mystery foam explosion sends locals out of their minds
[22:19:33] * Runaway1956 passes gas in RandomFactor general direction
[22:23:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, i gotta go sit somewhere more comfortable. my tired hurts.
[22:24:16] <Runaway1956> should have stopped at the tired shop
[22:24:21] <RandomFactor> I been thinking about getting myself a nice chair for this room. Some ancient lumpified office chair now.
[22:26:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Researchers Can Read [Some of] What People Are Typing During Video Calls - https://sylnt.us - what-are-you-typing-Dave?
[22:28:42] <RandomFactor> The #dadjokes slack channel is half the reason I go to work in the morning
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[23:06:50] <Bytram> https://youtu.be
[23:06:52] <systemd> ^ 03GPS III Space Vehicle 04 Mission ( https://www.youtube.com )
[23:10:27] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki++ bad puns are the best
[23:10:27] <Bender> karma - azumahazuki: 41
[23:14:43] <Bytram> T-10:00 for GPS III launch
[23:15:39] <Bytram> T-9:00
[23:16:27] <Bytram> John Insprucker!
[23:16:39] <Bytram> T-8:00
[23:17:38] <Bytram> T-7:00
[23:18:39] <Bytram> T-6:00
[23:19:09] <Bytram> ground winds marginal, otherwise weather is okay
[23:19:39] <Bytram> T-5:00
[23:20:39] <Bytram> T-4:00
[23:21:09] <Bytram> T-3:30
[23:21:39] <Bytram> T-3:00
[23:22:40] <Bytram> T-2:00
[23:23:10] <Bytram> T-01:30
[23:23:39] <Bytram> T-1:00
[23:23:52] <Bytram> falcoln is in startup
[23:24:09] <Bytram> T-0:30
[23:24:19] <Bytram> go for flight earlier
[23:24:29] <Bytram> T-0:10
[23:24:40] <Bytram> Ignition
[23:24:47] <Bytram> liftoff!
[23:26:14] <Bytram> maxq
[23:27:26] <Bytram> stage sep
[23:27:37] <Bytram> mvac startupo
[23:28:03] <Bytram> trajectory nominal
[23:28:17] <Bytram> fairing separation
[23:29:40] <Bytram> T+5:00
[23:30:40] <Bytram> T+6:00
[23:31:00] <Bytram> 100,000+ watching
[23:31:03] <RandomFactor> Entry Burn on first stage
[23:31:31] <Bytram> over to you, RandomFactor, (down on the convention floor)
[23:31:42] <Bytram> entry burn complete
[23:32:55] <Bytram> s1 landing burn
[23:32:58] <Bytram> secp
[23:33:02] <Bytram> seco
[23:33:14] <RandomFactor> Successful 1st Stage touch down on Of Course I Still Love You.
[23:33:31] <Bytram> landing good
[23:33:40] <RandomFactor> 2nd stage orbit good.
[23:34:04] <Bytram> landing good (1st stage) on Of Course I Still Love You
[23:34:51] <Bytram> animation until 1+1H2M is currently T+10:10
[23:35:07] <Bytram> s/1/T/
[23:35:07] <SedBot> <Bytram> animation until T+1H2M is currently T+10:10
[23:37:22] <Bytram> They made it look so easy... like a triple toe-loop in skating... and I can't even skate backwards!
[23:37:35] <Bytram> that's it for me -- laters!
[23:37:50] <RandomFactor> Ciao Bytram
[23:38:09] <Bytram> Chow? Good idea! ;^)
[23:57:13] <FatPhil> I wouldn't put it past Musk to get more manoeuvrability on those boosters, and to deliberately program in a loop-de-loop before touching down.
[23:57:34] <FatPhil> which would fucking rock, and I would applaud him for so doing.