#soylent | Logs for 2020-10-28
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[00:01:26] * nutherguy_ opts for shutters and regular curtains - the materials are at hand
[00:03:02] <AzumaHazuki> no, but i'm expecting to transition into the night shift in a month or so
[00:03:29] <AzumaHazuki> and if i want to stay nice and slim and not-diabetic, i need to control very strictly when and how much I see melanopic light
[00:04:23] <chromas> Night shift, eh. Better put some extra points into the dark humor tree
[00:04:40] <AzumaHazuki> oh, honey, i mastered that part of the sphere grid around sixth grade
[00:05:16] <chromas> huh, it never shows :D
[00:05:37] <AzumaHazuki> you're never around when i do it. i remember creeping teachers out as a kid and teenager
[00:07:51] <nutherguy_> You still creep us out today.
[00:08:40] <AzumaHazuki> good. it means i'm making you think about things you'd rather not
[00:08:58] <AzumaHazuki> so what did i do to trigger you THIS TIME, runaway?
[00:09:08] <chromas> I farted. Now you're thinking about things you'd rather not! Haha!
[00:10:22] <nutherguy_> 'Zumi's 4th grade classs photo I think -
[00:10:26] <nutherguy_> https://s3.r29static.com
[00:10:48] <AzumaHazuki> my hair was already shoulderblade length in fourth grade
[00:11:10] <AzumaHazuki> and it's a brown so dark it's basically black unless the sun's shining right through it
[00:13:38] <AzumaHazuki> So we're getting off-track here: what did I say that triggered you this time?
[00:14:50] <nutherguy_> LOL - "triggered" - even your speech is violent, like most left/lib/dems
[00:15:16] <AzumaHazuki> 9_9 come on now, show me on the dollie where the mean lady hurt you
[00:15:39] <chromas> Right in the five hole
[00:15:40] * nutherguy_ doesn't know any mean ladies
[00:17:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Making It Possible to Create Larger 3D-Printed Objects with Ceramics - https://sylnt.us - next-gen-pottery
[00:18:26] <nutherguy_> No Soul Biden again pushed his message that the 2020 presidential election is a "battle for the soul of the nation
[00:18:38] <AzumaHazuki> yeah that fight was lost in 1980
[00:18:52] <AzumaHazuki> reagan sold it for scrap
[00:19:16] <nutherguy_> You misspelled "Johnson"
[00:19:27] <AzumaHazuki> no, i spelled Reagan correctly
[00:19:36] <nutherguy_> WTF were we doing in Vietnam?
[00:19:53] <AzumaHazuki> fighting Communism, you fucking pinko sympathizer!!11111one
[00:20:13] <AzumaHazuki> whah dew yew hayt Uh-MER'kuh?
[00:21:03] <nutherguy_> Correction - we were defending French interests in rubber plantations
[00:21:28] <AzumaHazuki> FIGHTING. COMMUNISM.
[00:21:52] <AzumaHazuki> Domino effect and all that
[00:21:57] <lld> pfft
[00:22:06] <nutherguy_> Keep telling yourself that - half of a generation were brainwashed into believing it
[00:22:09] <lld> america was fighting against itself
[00:22:26] <nutherguy_> meanwhile, we have the real reason for Pelosi looking into the 25th
[00:22:31] <AzumaHazuki> i'm being sarcastic you fucking rube
[00:22:32] <nutherguy_> https://primepatriot.com
[00:22:41] <systemd> ^ 03Kamala Harris Could Replace Joe Biden via 25th Amendment
[00:22:43] <lld> if you wanted to fight commies, you'd let McArthur work with Chang Kai Shek
[00:22:53] <nutherguy_> well put your rubing sarc tags in place3
[00:23:08] <AzumaHazuki> here's a hint: the !!!1111one string is the equivalent of sPoNgEbOb-CaSiNg in terms of mockery but way easier to type
[00:23:29] <nutherguy_> I thought it was Yiddish
[00:24:06] <AzumaHazuki> oy gevalt, who invited this yutz...?
[00:24:17] <AzumaHazuki> gey cacken off'n yam
[00:25:28] <nutherguy_> I hope you're watching for this kid, he could be in trouble
[00:25:31] <nutherguy_> https://globalnews.ca
[00:25:32] <systemd> ^ 03Police continue search for missing 15-year-old from Bradford, Ont. - Barrie
[00:26:24] <nutherguy_> Cop gets too much cock?
[00:26:31] <nutherguy_> https://www.rt.com
[00:26:33] <systemd> ^ 03Police chief killed by fighting cock during raid on illegal venue in Philippines ( https://www.rt.com )
[00:28:16] <chromas> That's why I support no-cock raids
[00:28:52] <nutherguy_> =submit https://futurism.com
[00:28:53] <systemd> Submitting "NASA scientists spot "really unexpected" molecule in atmosphere of Saturn's largest moon"...
[00:29:15] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03NASA Scientists Spot "Really Unexpected" Molecule in Atmosphere of Saturn's Largest Moon" (15 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[00:30:25] <AzumaHazuki> C3H2, jesus, the steric strain on that thing...
[00:31:20] <AzumaHazuki> you have to really pound the hell out of some carbon to get it to link up like that. its bond angles go from 103* in the ideal methane tetrahedron to...i don't even know what, that formula looks like a typo
[00:32:33] <nutherguy_> =submit https://phys.org
[00:32:37] <systemd> Submitting "Coronaviruses are masters of mimicry, new study finds"...
[00:32:53] <nutherguy_> This is 'Murica - we pound hell out of a lot of things
[00:32:58] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Coronaviruses are Masters of Mimicry, New Study Finds" (20 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[00:40:14] <nutherguy_> =submit https://phys.org
[00:40:16] <systemd> Submitting "Used car exports drive pollution to developing world: UN study"...
[00:40:37] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Used Car Exports Drive Pollution to Developing World: UN Study" (11 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[00:40:43] <lld> carbon taxes can offset it
[00:49:02] <nutherguy_> =submit https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com
[00:49:03] <systemd> Submitting "New details revealed about ex-lawmaker’s son charged in planning "sophisticated attacks" against Seattle cops"...
[00:49:25] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08New Details Revealed About Ex-lawmaker’s Son Charged in Planning "Sophisticated Attacks" Against S" (52 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[00:51:56] <nutherguy_> https://www.theguardian.com
[00:51:57] <systemd> ^ 03Fears of crackdown on US journalism as Trump ally removes editorial 'firewall'
[00:53:40] <nutherguy_> https://primepatriot.com
[00:53:49] <systemd> ^ 03Trump Caravan Rolls Down Jerusalem-Tel Aviv Highway in Israel
[00:56:08] <nutherguy_> https://www.rt.com
[00:56:10] <systemd> ^ 03‘I could go to jail’: Project Veritas VIDEO alleges FRAUD by ‘ballot chaser’ in Texas who prompts woman to change vote to Democrat
[00:56:17] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: Wait, C3H2?? Yikes!
[00:56:47] <AzumaHazuki> yeah. that is one hell of a strain
[00:57:05] <Bytram> H-C=C=C-H ???
[00:57:27] <Bytram> nope.
[00:58:35] <Bytram> H-C= only has 3 bonds on the C where it wants 4. (IIRC, high school chem was a long time ago)
[00:58:49] <Bytram> =g C3H2
[00:58:50] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - C3H2 - Wikipedia
[00:58:56] <Bytram> :)
[01:05:47] <nutherguy_> Glad I didn't vote for JoJo after all
[01:05:58] <nutherguy_> https://www.sott.net
[01:05:59] <systemd> ^ 03Make America neutral again: Libertarian candidate Jo Jorgensen wants to turn USA into a large, nuclear-armed Switzerland -- Sott.net
[01:07:38] <nutherguy_> =submit https://www.sott.net
[01:07:39] <systemd> Submitting "Flu away: Scientists baffled at disappearance of influenza...but is it really gone or just masked by Covid-19? -- Sott.net"...
[01:08:01] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08Flu Away: Scientists Baffled at Disappearance of Influenza...but is It Really Gone or Just Masked by" (0 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:08:04] <nutherguy_> The covid virus is eating the flu virus - survival of the fittest and all that
[01:11:59] <Bytram> Seems obvious to me... mask wearing and social distancing, etc. are likely greatly restricting transmission. That, and people with fevers and other symptoms are being told to stay home when they would otherwise show up and tough it out and spread it to all their coworkers.
[01:12:48] <AzumaHazuki> masks are for liberal cucks, as all good God-fearing patriotic Americans know. Just look how well Wisconsin is doing
[01:34:31] <nutherguy_> 4 hours of sea bottom scenery if you're into that sort of thing
[01:34:35] <nutherguy_> https://www.cnet.com
[01:34:36] <systemd> ^ 03Elusive catshark, 'one of the rarest species of sharks in the world,' caught on video ( https://www.cnet.com )
[01:38:33] <nutherguy_> The main feature appears about 2 hr 14 minutes in, the short-tail catshark
[02:09:32] <nutherguy_> =submit https://reclaimthenet.org
[02:09:34] <systemd> Submitting "CEO of Iranian video sharing platform sentenced to 10 years in jail for video user uploaded"...
[02:09:56] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03CEO of Iranian Video Sharing Platform Sentenced to 10 Years in Jail for Video User Uploaded" (13 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:13:38] <nutherguy_> =submit https://www.upi.com
[02:13:45] <systemd> Submitting "Vitamin deficiencies linked to respiratory conditions, including COVID-19"...
[02:14:07] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Vitamin Deficiencies Linked to Respiratory Conditions, Including COVID-19" (37 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:18:06] <nutherguy_> https://www.washingtontimes.com
[02:18:07] <systemd> ^ 03Joe Biden, Democrats falling short in swing states, early voting data
[02:26:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Algae-Inspired Polymers Light the Way for Enhanced Night Vision - https://sylnt.us - going-green
[02:30:30] <carny> c3h2 isn't radically different than acetylene so i don't know what all the fuss is about
[02:31:02] <AzumaHazuki> steric strain. look at the bond angles
[02:31:54] <AzumaHazuki> as to you, runaway...be careful what you wish for. you might get it good and hard. i would say you are in more danger in a GOP takeover than I am
[02:33:32] <nutherguy_> This ain't Portland, Baby! https://www.rt.com
[02:33:33] <systemd> ^ 03Pennsylvania National Guard deployed to Philadelphia after night of riots, looting & ATM explosions
[02:34:02] <nutherguy_> Me? In danger? I laugh in the face of danger!
[02:34:46] <AzumaHazuki> yeah, i know
[02:35:06] <AzumaHazuki> this is because you're dumber than a box of rocks after the jock rocks have kicked the nerdy rocks out
[02:35:50] <AzumaHazuki> THINK, you fool: you're retirement age and not in the best health. what do you think a post-ACA healthcare system will look like for you? you are a walking pre-existing condition
[02:36:37] <chromas> similes are as hard as a group of things after you remove the soft ones
[02:36:41] <AzumaHazuki> you also, unless i missed something, don't have the money or the solid assets you could liquidate to move to Canada, and your age is a barrier
[02:37:51] <nutherguy_> *Yawn*
[02:38:06] <AzumaHazuki> that reaction means you've been nailed to the wall. so predictable
[02:38:42] <nutherguy_> Oh yes, nailed. Could you pull the nail from my left knee, and drive it back in through the calf?
[02:38:46] <AzumaHazuki> not that i expect you to, but consider thinking about the things i've mentioned just now. you may find your "originalist" SCOTUS is, shall we say, not concerned with keeping your demographic around
[02:39:16] <chromas> Dear Soylent, mommy and daddy are fighting again.
[02:39:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://notthebee.com
[02:39:35] <nutherguy_> Mmm-hmmm - meanwhile, the rioters in the streets make it clear that they hate my demographic.
[02:39:35] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[02:40:00] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[02:40:03] <AzumaHazuki> this is way too one-sided to be a fight. besides which, i'm not upset so much as mystified. someone wants to "own the libs" so hard they'll throw away the infrastructure that will support them in old age
[02:40:16] <AzumaHazuki> that is deranged. that's cutting off your entire head to spite your face
[02:40:37] <nutherguy_> I'm not going to lose anything, personally, if ACA is repealed
[02:40:48] <nutherguy_> but there is no real indication that ACA is going anywhere
[02:40:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> except astoundingly high premiums
[02:41:08] <nutherguy_> my premiums went up BECAUSE OF ACA
[02:41:23] <nutherguy_> oh, I think you was agreeing with me
[02:41:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, everyone who could already afford insurance's did. by a whole lot
[02:41:37] <AzumaHazuki> again: the linchpin here is pre-existing conditions. lose the ACA (and if you think the GOP is going to protect pre-existing conditions without it you're insane) and that goes poof
[02:42:01] <AzumaHazuki> and suddenly a whoooooole lotta greying Repubs are shit outta luck
[02:42:09] <nutherguy_> Face it, Zumi - we were all screwed over, the ACA was a gift to the insurance companies
[02:42:28] <AzumaHazuki> oh of course, it was Mitt "Bain Capital" Romney's plan
[02:42:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> you mean politicians are in bed with big business? say it ain't so!
[02:43:06] <nutherguy_> They're piled about six deep in Grandma's feather bed
[02:43:12] <AzumaHazuki> expecting anything from R-Money to be anything BUT a giant handout to corporations is insanity
[02:43:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> the pre-existing conditions thing was the only bit worth even talking about
[02:43:34] <AzumaHazuki> yes, and that is going to go a-splodey when the ACA gets mulched
[02:43:42] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[02:43:47] <nutherguy_> We could have gone single-payer cheaper than ACA
[02:43:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> back to paying for what you get i guess
[02:44:03] <AzumaHazuki> yes, we could have, but that would be Communism (TM)
[02:44:20] <chromas> Pay for my pills, tmb
[02:44:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> darn the bad but much cheaper luck
[02:44:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, no, yours are recreational
[02:44:35] * chromas doesn't actually have any pills
[02:44:39] <AzumaHazuki> shoulda voted Sanders if you wanted single-payer 'cause Trump sure as hell won't do it and neither will Biden
[02:44:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> suppositories still count as pills
[02:45:01] <nutherguy_> Sanders never made it onto the ballot, remember?
[02:45:01] <chromas> huhuhuhuh, oh yeah
[02:45:17] <AzumaHazuki> indeed. and i hope the long knives come out for the DNC sooner rather than later
[02:45:28] * TheMightyBuzzard digs sanders. makes pretty good chicken.
[02:45:44] <AzumaHazuki> on the other hand, compared to what they did to the LAST socialist Jew who said to be good to poor folks around 2000 years ago Bernie got off easy
[02:46:07] <nutherguy_> Crucify all those socialist Jews!!
[02:46:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> he weren't a socialist. he told folks they should do it, he didn't force em to.
[02:46:24] <nutherguy_> And, OFF with their FORESKINS!
[02:46:35] <AzumaHazuki> on pain of eternal torture, yes, cf. Mt. 25:46
[02:46:57] <AzumaHazuki> ...okay, "aionios kolasis," but the Latin speakers won over the Greek speakers like 1700 years ago
[02:47:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> latin++
[02:47:23] <Bender> karma - latin: 1
[02:47:45] <nutherguy_> latinas++
[02:47:45] <Bender> karma - latinas: 1
[02:47:49] <Bytram> that's prolly what it sounded like when undergoing the procedure: "aionios kolasis,"
[02:47:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> dudane lactae desidiris
[02:47:55] <AzumaHazuki> latin is a shit language for theology. it's the German of its day, except uglier and THAT is saying something since i think German sounds like coughing up a lung
[02:48:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> sounds like english but growly
[02:48:50] <nutherguy_> sounds like english but more vulgar
[02:48:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> personally, i think everyone should speak gaelic.
[02:49:00] <AzumaHazuki> pog ma thoin
[02:49:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> even saying mean shit sounds sexy in gaelic
[02:50:00] <nutherguy_> some people think the same about French
[02:50:12] * nutherguy_ is not one of those people
[02:50:14] <chromas> even the word gaelic is sexy. "gay lick"
[02:50:15] <AzumaHazuki> french sounds like blowing your nose
[02:50:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> they've never met french people though, or are french
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[02:50:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, zactly
[02:50:44] <nutherguy_> uppity socialites mostly
[02:51:03] <SoyCow1188> =cite Association between vitamin intake and respiratory complaints in adults from the UK National Diet and Nutrition Survey
[02:51:03] <systemd> <p><b>Journal Reference</b>:<br/>
[02:51:03] <systemd> Error: DOI not found
[02:51:04] <AzumaHazuki> good lord, who fucking uses the word "uppity" unironically these days?
[02:51:08] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: depends... if you are talking about Suder Deutsch (southern/ Bavarian) , I'm right there with ya. Guttural++ OTOH Hoch Deutch, though it does have its guttural aspects, seemed to have more spoken from the front of the mouth. At least in my experience.
[02:51:10] <chromas> that's why french sounds like blowing your nose—because they're so snooty
[02:51:12] <SoyCow1188> =cite https://nutrition.bmj.com
[02:51:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> they're posers wishing they were as shitheadily snooty as the french
[02:51:15] <systemd> <p><b>Journal Reference</b>:<br/>Suzana Almoosawi, Luigi Palla. <b>Association between vitamin intake and respiratory complaints in adults from the UK National Diet and Nutrition Survey years 1–8</b> [open], <cite>BMJ Nutrition, Prevention & Health</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.1136/bmjnph-2020-000150">10.1136/bmjnph-2020-000150</a>)</p>
[02:51:38] <chromas> AzumaHazuki: literally everyone who uses it
[02:51:55] <AzumaHazuki> that is trivially true and as useful as a screen door on a submarine
[02:51:57] <carny> no so called healt care plans will ever work efficiently at making people healthy until they make people responsible for their own health outcomes
[02:52:05] <nutherguy_> french and respiratory complaints . . . makes sense I guess
[02:52:15] <carny> 'insurance' takes away the consequences for bad decisions
[02:52:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> how else you sposed to keep out the sea-skeeters?
[02:52:22] <chromas> oh yeah? how are you supposed to keep the fish out without a screen door?
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[02:52:38] <Bytram> carny: like having a car run into you in a crosswalk.
[02:52:45] <carny> put consequences back in the system and people will stop feeling immune to self-inflicted health harm
[02:53:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> carny, no we won't. we'll just make our choices and live with them like before.
[02:53:19] * chromas smokes a pack at a time and makes Bytram pay for it
[02:53:41] * nutherguy_ votes to make Bytram pay for his smokes too
[02:53:44] <carny> price consequences into the system and you can force people to make actual rational decisions about whether or not they want to go skydiving if it will increase their premiums 20%
[02:53:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> good thing he makes all that big sn money
[02:54:52] <carny> if people have to pay higher premiums for engaging in risky or deleterious behavior the problem will be solved in a way that every person can be happy with
[02:54:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> he actually could pay for mine. they run about $6 a carton.
[02:55:08] <Bytram> carny: or getting a scratch that got infected that turned into full-blown cellulitis. Spent a week in the hospital hooked up to last-ditch antibiotic IVs. Saved my life, but that short stay totaled over $25,000.
[02:55:12] <carny> unfortunately that means insurance companies will not be as rich so of course we can't have that
[02:55:48] <chromas> Bytram: you gotta negotiate the price down
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[02:56:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, try merican diplomacy. show up with a gun in one hand and a sammich in the other and ask which they'd prefer.
[02:56:29] <nutherguy_> But, that's what ACA was all about - negotiating with insurance companies so they got greater profits
[02:56:59] <nutherguy_> Buzzard, hell with that, I'm eating the sammich myself
[02:57:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> #sammich
[02:57:00] * MrPlow whips up a Redmond:Endless torrential downpour of shite. sammich for TheMightyBuzzard
[02:57:07] <Bytram> thing is, for what we pay for health insurance, and what employers pay, and what the gov't pays, and what the insurance companies make... put that all together and we would basically cover free healthcare for everybody for what we are already paying.
[02:57:07] <carny> chromas: we can't have valid price negotiations when one side of the spectrum wants profits at the expense of patient health and the other side wants free cookies and unicorn rides
[02:57:40] <nutherguy_> Hold the unicorn - I know what that bastid does with his horn
[02:57:49] <chromas> Just start up your own insurance company then
[02:57:51] <carny> we can lynch the greedy bastards if they get too greedy but unfortunately we don't have a good outrage mechanism for dealing with the ignorants who want everything to be free
[02:57:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, it would. or the folks who don't feel the need to hedge their health could be allowed to not.
[02:58:21] <Bytram> chromas: as I am facing death if the meds don't work? Yeah, right. :/
[02:58:24] <AzumaHazuki> Bytram, you're wasting time on this lot. how many times do they have to show you what they are before you believe them?
[02:58:26] <chromas> good lord, who fucking uses the word "lynch" unironically these days?
[02:58:35] <AzumaHazuki> to Hell with them, and in runaway's case it won't even be all that long
[02:59:11] <nutherguy_> My death is a lifetime away 'zumi, just like your own
[02:59:25] <AzumaHazuki> yes but statistically your lifetime is far closer to an end
[02:59:36] <nutherguy_> whoooooosh!
[02:59:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> with your bloodpressure? i doubt it.
[02:59:53] <AzumaHazuki> 118/64 last i checked
[03:00:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> enhance your calm, john spartan
[03:00:09] <nutherguy_> Jesus Christ, I'd pass out if it got that low
[03:00:11] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: just remembering that TheMightyBuzzard mentioned a few days back (correct me if I am wrong) that he gets *free* healthcare through his tribe. Might sing a different song if he had to pay going rates.
[03:00:19] <AzumaHazuki> hah, no kidding?
[03:00:23] <AzumaHazuki> god damn, what a hypocrite
[03:00:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, i haven't used it since i've been in tn, so you tell me.
[03:00:42] <Bytram> Oh, and that was NOT in the ICU/CCU. Can't imagine how much *that* costs.
[03:01:08] <AzumaHazuki> sure, and wile e coyote hasn't hit the canyon floor yet so he's juuuust fine, right?
[03:01:30] <nutherguy_> There's a line in heavy metal the movie
[03:01:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> sense no make
[03:01:36] <Bytram> just wait, I've got a few years on ya. You will, and then you'll hopefully learn what some of us already know.
[03:01:39] <nutherguy_> I die, you die, we all die -- BOORING!
[03:02:08] <AzumaHazuki> runaway, you're one of those people who give Christian apologists ammunition for their "atheists have no morals" meme
[03:02:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't use it unless i really need to. then i do. my tribe makes the money to pay for it via good ole capitalism, so i feel zero issue benefiting.
[03:02:40] <nutherguy_> elaborate, oh labyrinthian mind
[03:02:43] <chromas> atheists have tons of morals
[03:02:51] <chromas> er wait, I'm thinking of morsels
[03:02:56] <chromas> Anyone want a cookie?
[03:02:57] <Bytram> don't get me wrong, I'm grateful to be alive, but my bout with a stroke was a few more $K out of my pocket last year, too.
[03:03:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, i got half a pot of chili left, does that count?
[03:03:26] <nutherguy_> pot half empty
[03:03:31] <AzumaHazuki> it's very simple: Christian apologists are full of shit, and they like to use atheists as a boogeyman. one of their favorites is "atheists have no morals." your words and actions make you a prime example for their strawmanning
[03:03:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, you defending me now?
[03:03:57] <chromas> yes. TheMightyBuzzard is morselly half-bankrupt
[03:04:10] <AzumaHazuki> morality has squat to do with religion and is much older
[03:04:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, only for another half a day. it won't survive past lunch.
[03:04:32] <Bytram> and, with that, I do needs sleep. have been running on not-enough-sleep for too many days in a row... Have a great night everybody!
[03:04:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> nite man
[03:04:38] <nutherguy_> how, exactly, do I fit into that picture? I'm neither apologist nor atheist
[03:04:44] <chromas> y'all got any buttery cornbread over there?
[03:05:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, not that you know of
[03:05:08] <chromas> well dang
[03:05:16] * nutherguy_ took the cornbread out of the oven earlier, only to have it turn into cake
[03:05:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> it is cake. just corn flavored. well until it becomes butter flavored.
[03:06:15] <nutherguy_> Turns out nobody in the house was baking anything - it was daughter in law sneaked in and baked a birthday cake
[03:06:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> FYI, The Witches is a relatively good kids halloween movie. has chris rock narrating, which is odd.
[03:06:41] <chromas> Did she accidentally decorate the cornbread?
[03:06:58] <nutherguy_> LOL, that would have been funny
[03:07:18] <Fnord666> TheMightyBuzzard: That just came out didn't it?
[03:07:22] <chromas> Decorate it with hot sauce and bean sprinkles
[03:07:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah
[03:07:49] <AzumaHazuki> Bytram: sleep well. i should too, need to be up in 5 fucking hours
[03:08:05] <Fnord666> Good night Bytram
[03:08:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> hasta la night-night
[03:08:08] <nutherguy_> if you fuck for five hours you'll not get any sleep
[03:08:08] <AzumaHazuki> and this is like the third night in a row i'm doing this. immune response is dropping
[03:08:23] <AzumaHazuki> maybe i should double up on vitamin D tomorrow...
[03:08:29] <chromas> Take a lesson from TheMightyBuzzard and get in on the napping action
[03:08:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas++
[03:08:37] <Bender> karma - chromas: 305
[03:08:39] * nutherguy_ doubles up on caffeind
[03:08:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> naps++
[03:08:40] <Bender> karma - naps: 118
[03:08:43] <nutherguy_> caffeine
[03:08:49] <Fnord666> naps++
[03:08:49] <Bender> karma - naps: 119
[03:09:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> four twice a day is just as good as 8 once a day. and you get two rounds of morning coffee.
[03:09:04] <AzumaHazuki> i shouldn't exceed 32oz of strong coffee daily. that sounds...dangerous
[03:09:18] <chromas> Just use less water
[03:09:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> chocolate covered coffee beans
[03:09:39] * AzumaHazuki pokes stomach, wonders if that melatonin tab she sent in 2 hours ago is working yet
[03:10:03] <nutherguy_> That's not chocolate Buzzard - those damned cervit cats were munching down
[03:10:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> side benefit of if you have a coworker you can't stand, shank them and tell the cops they were trying to take your chocolate covered coffee beans. they'll totally back you on justification.
[03:12:03] <nutherguy_> Buzzard Longshank?
[03:12:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> size don't matter
[03:13:04] <chromas> Mighti Longshanking
[03:14:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> that sleep thing does sound good though. 5am don't move itself around to suit me.
[03:14:53] * TheMightyBuzzard buggers off
[03:15:26] <AzumaHazuki> oh bloody hell...well, might as well at least turn the computer off and try. hopefully the new blackout drapes help
[03:16:07] <nutherguy_> https://nationalfile.com
[03:16:07] <systemd> ^ 03Pennsylvania Election Official: ‘We Will End The GOP Permanently’
[03:16:35] <AzumaHazuki> heh, ambitious but unlikely
[03:16:49] <nutherguy_> Black Drapes Matter
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[04:36:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft is Taking Desperate Steps to Stop You Using Internet Explorer - https://sylnt.us - RIP-IE
[06:46:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SpaceX Starlink Public Beta Begins: It's $99 a Month Plus $499 Up Front - https://sylnt.us - what-did-you-expect
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[08:03:51] <FatPhil> All I know about sleep is that none of the various melatonin pills I tried did anything apart from one set that made me fart.
[08:37:38] <c0lo> Ahem... fact "after the onset of Alzheimer's it has little to no effect" https://en.wikipedia.org (grin)
[08:37:39] <systemd> ^ 03Melatonin - Wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org )
[08:56:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - First Habitable-Zone, Earth-Sized Exoplanet Discovered with Planet-Hunter TESS - https://sylnt.us
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[09:20:35] <runaway1957> =submit https://www.forbes.com
[09:20:37] <systemd> Submitting "Mark Zuckerberg And Jack Dorsey Are Gonna Have A Rotten Day As They Testify Before The Senate"...
[09:20:58] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey are Gonna Have a Rotten Day as They Testify Before the Senate" (14 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[09:23:55] <runaway1957> =submit https://www.hjnews.com
[09:23:57] <systemd> Submitting "Extremist group dubbed 'Ammon's Army' has Cache presence"...
[09:24:19] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Extremist Group Dubbed 'Ammon's Army' Has Cache Presence" (2 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[09:25:51] <runaway1957> =submit https://news.yahoo.com
[09:25:53] <systemd> Submitting "Do armed right-wing militia groups pose a threat to U.S. presidential election?"...
[09:26:15] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Do Armed Right-wing Militia Groups Pose a Threat to U.S. Presidential Election?" (1 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[11:06:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA Scientists Spot "Really Unexpected" Molecule in Atmosphere of Saturn's Largest Moon - https://sylnt.us - that's...strange
[12:02:11] <FatPhil> "Most Genius Shit Ever" = Hunter is Soviet's gem (anagram)
[13:06:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple, Google and a Deal that Controls the Internet - https://sylnt.us - search-funnel
[15:17:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 60-Year-Old Limit to Lasers Overturned by Quantum Researchers - https://sylnt.us - a-few-drinks-shy-of-incoherence
[15:25:39] <Teckla> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com
[17:08:38] <c0lo> =submit https://apnews.com
[17:08:40] <systemd> Submitting "Anxiety 2020: Voters worry about safety at the polls"...
[17:09:02] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Anxiety 2020: Voters Worry About Safety at the Polls" (29 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[17:09:12] <c0lo> =submit https://apnews.com
[17:09:14] <systemd> Submitting "'We need you': GOP hunts for new voters in Trump territory"...
[17:09:36] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03'We Need You': GOP Hunts for New Voters in Trump Territory" (51 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[17:11:07] <FatPhil> did you see the clip of trump complaining that he had to go to a state, whilst he was holding his rally in that state?
[17:11:39] <FatPhil> man, he needs a better script writer. one who's less senile.
[17:13:57] <RandomFactor> =submit https://www.thesun.co.uk
[17:13:59] <systemd> Submitting "Monkeys could be given 'fundamental rights' under law in Switzerland"...
[17:14:20] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Monkeys Could be Given 'Fundamental Rights' Under Law in Switzerland" (2 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[17:17:19] <c0lo> 1. FoxNews no longer has respect for Giuliani
[17:17:36] <c0lo> 2. Giuliani is at the cracking point
[17:17:38] <c0lo> https://www.theguardian.com
[17:17:40] <systemd> ^ 03Angry Rudy Giuliani demands apology from Fox TV interviewer
[17:19:48] <c0lo> =submit bottom line - the "killer laptop story" got nowhere, too much innuendo, not enough sex: https://www.politico.com
[17:19:49] <systemd> Submitting "MAGA scrambles to repair the Hunter Biden narrative"...
[17:20:11] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03MAGA Scrambles to Repair the Hunter Biden Narrative" (13 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[17:21:31] <FatPhil> sex++
[17:21:31] <Bender> karma - sex: 1
[17:21:47] <FatPhil> my god, am I the only non-incel here?
[17:22:00] <c0lo> Ugh, really? So little sex?
[17:22:02] <c0lo> sex++
[17:22:02] <Bender> karma - sex: 2
[17:25:16] <FatPhil> However, unless you feed me beer, I won't confess to which of the following is most appropriate: Tri-weekly. Try weekly. Try weakly.
[17:27:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Vitamin Deficiencies Linked to Respiratory Conditions, Including COVID-19 - https://sylnt.us - correlation-!=-causation
[17:31:04] <halibut> Teckla: So, not only does bleach cure COVID-19, but it also has an amazing slimming effect? Maybe I should try it.
[17:31:46] <halibut> That guy looks much more trim than usual.
[17:57:04] <Teckla> halibut: haha
[18:59:57] <nutherguy_> News feed has the same headline very single day
[19:00:17] <nutherguy_> "Some bitch is banging some nobody in $city"
[19:00:59] <nutherguy_> Who is Adele, and who is Skepta, and who cares that they're banging in London?
[19:04:43] <janrinok> well, you seem to care for one - otherwise why mention it?
[19:35:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Yout LLC. Sues RIAA Over YouTube-DL DMCA Complaints - https://sylnt.us
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[20:03:13] <AzumaHazuki> bweh. need to be up at 3:45 AM tomorrow
[20:07:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> thank larry wall we have coffee pots with auto-start timers, eh?
[20:12:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> culo, trump's ahead in rasmussen. you know, the one who had the most accurate numbers instead of having hillary with a big lead the entire time. you don't need to be scared he might lose.
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[20:27:21] <AzumaHazuki> the polls mean shit. he's going to "win" because he and his buddies have permanently ratfucked the entire election apparatus.
[20:27:34] <AzumaHazuki> i really do not think most people understand what kind of damage has been done to our institutions here
[20:47:05] <FatPhil> I think when you made it all but compulsory to have the winners gerrymander as a privilege for winning, you kinda fucked yourselves.
[20:47:54] <FatPhil> Almost every state has about a 5% advantage to the pugs because of that.
[20:54:08] * Teckla thinks Trump is going to lose in a landslide.
[20:54:35] <Teckla> Of course, I also thought Hillary was going to win, so it's wise not to trust my predictions!
[21:03:59] <FatPhil> I am sure the result will be literally shocking.
[21:12:09] <AzumaHazuki> i'll be surprised with a Biden win
[21:12:34] <AzumaHazuki> at any rate i'm planning for the absolute worst case, as if nothing else it means i've lost nothing if i'm wrong
[21:16:20] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://www.sciencealert.com
[21:16:22] <systemd> Submitting "Daycares in Finland Built a 'Forest Floor', And It Changed Children's Immune Systems"...
[21:16:44] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Daycares in Finland Built a 'Forest Floor', and It Changed Children's Immune Systems" (30 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[21:17:04] <FatPhil> kids play out in the woods during breaktimes in .fi normally.
[21:20:04] <AzumaHazuki> i would love to live there, even with their hideous fucking winters
[21:22:10] <FatPhil> it seems like continental US (e.g. SD/NE) has worse winters than .fi nowadays. Gulf stream keeps the air over the baltic warm most of the time.
[21:22:29] * RandomFactor doesn't like any weather that water doesn't like.
[21:22:56] <AzumaHazuki> i am not a fan of winter, and have lost a lot of cold resistance since getting this thin. but finland overall seems to have it together
[21:23:16] <FatPhil> I'm only 100km south of where I used to be, and I've gone from weeks-long -20C winters to don't-even-need-longjohns-once winters.
[21:24:37] <FatPhil> I think I saw 15F over NE yesterday, that's colder than any temperature I saw here last winter, IIRC.
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[21:37:58] <RandomFactor> I want %accepted and %rejected on the HoF also :-)
[21:38:28] <RandomFactor> Buzzmeister!!!
[21:47:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Emissions from China Coal Plants Fertilize North Pacific Ocean - https://sylnt.us
[21:51:11] * Teckla would like to escape the frozen hellscape that is Minnesota
[21:51:40] <Teckla> I pretty much like everything about Minnesota, but winter is just hell.
[22:01:02] * FatPhil drops Michegan references
[22:09:43] <AzumaHazuki> hm, gnome shell 3.38 is usable in a VM and actually has a decent workflow if used with the United extension
[22:09:50] <AzumaHazuki> it only took them, what, 10+ years
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[22:59:56] <Runaway1956> Who wants to be a guinea pig?
[23:00:08] <Runaway1956> https://screener.acurianhealth.com
[23:00:09] <systemd> ^ 03Screener
[23:00:20] <Runaway1956> I got an email from these people wanting me to sign up
[23:00:40] <Runaway1956> images are disabled in email so I couldn't actually read the come on
[23:04:57] <RandomFactor> Opened in a virtual browser. What do you want to know about it? Just keeps asking for more and more detailed information as you go through it.
[23:06:35] <RandomFactor> Eventually asks for medical conditions, presumably trying to match you to a study.
[23:07:55] <RandomFactor> If that link is tied to you, you're now bipolar with cirrhosis and an enlarged prostate btw.
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[23:32:11] <Runaway1956> Oh, I don't actually want to know anything - I just offered it here in case anyone wants to be a lab rat
[23:33:14] <Runaway1956> And, I stripped all the bullshit from the URL before posting it here - there were three pages of probably identifiable data when I copied it
[23:43:24] <chromas> woohoo++ # new tires
[23:43:24] <Bender> karma - woohoo: 22
[23:43:50] <chromas> When I grow up, I'm running for president and the sole feature of my platform will be exterminating goatheads
[23:44:50] <RandomFactor> President Puncturevine Weevil?
[23:48:09] <chromas> I'll pull out of the middle east and deploy the soldiers to America with those backpack vacuum cleaners
[23:48:52] <RandomFactor> Flamethrowers for fun and yard-clearing
[23:50:07] <chromas> Yeah; probably better then airdropping them onto the California fires.
[23:52:57] <c0lo> Go watch https://www.youtube.com
[23:52:59] <systemd> ^ 03NEW Sassy Justice with Fred Sassy
[23:53:39] <c0lo> Seriously.
[23:53:46] <c0lo> Channel is https://www.youtube.com
[23:53:47] <systemd> ^ 03Sassy Justice
[23:54:33] <RandomFactor> is Sassy Justice anything like Sleazy live from the bunker?
[23:55:00] <c0lo> Details: https://boingboing.net
[23:55:01] <systemd> ^ 03Sassy Justice with Fred Sassy: a terrific deepfake satire show
[23:55:34] <c0lo> see https://soylentnews.org
[23:55:37] <systemd> ^ 03BREAKING ‘South Park’ creators launch new deepfake satire/education/warning series ‘Sassy Justice’: SoylentNews Submission
[23:57:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - AMD Announces RX 6000 Series "RDNA 2" AKA "Big Navi" GPUs - https://sylnt.us - graphic-news!
[23:59:19] <c0lo> https://news.google.com YMMV
[23:59:23] <systemd> ^ 03Google News ( https://news.google.com )
[23:59:58] <chromas> oh good. it's hard to watch south park since they moved over to amazon prime