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[23:59:46] <tedious> Darn that's what I was afraid of.
[23:59:32] <tedious> I'd like to not be a complete hypochondriac if I'm going to bring a list of concerns to a doctor. :)
[23:59:30] <AzumaHazuki> honestly, no. deficiencies are insidious because they can be silent, near-silent, or mimic other problems
[23:59:02] <tedious> AzumaHazuki: Do you have any pointers to resources for sniffing out potential problems like those signs of iron deficiency?
[23:57:28] <AzumaHazuki> which...therefore, by definition...must have SOME overlap
[23:57:19] <AzumaHazuki> lol, runaway jerking off over Gab again? remember, he's not a racist or a Nazi, he just hangs out with them online and "makes common cause" with them to accomplish his goals
[23:55:01] SoyGuest39811 is now known as requerdanos
[23:53:32] <SoyGuest39811> I feel ya, AC
[23:53:25] <SoyGuest39811> Quoting an AC: "had to leave to do sheer number of dumb racists on that platform."
[23:50:42] <FatPhil> it has penguins on it, that;s not that weird is it?
[23:50:21] <FatPhil> to a weird extent
[23:50:14] <FatPhil> was in the pub last night and everyone loved my jumper
[23:45:57] <SoyGuest39811> Moved a couple runs of furniture into the new house today and put up towel rods & toilet paper holders in the bathrooms. My back is on fourteen kinds of fire but the work is done.
[23:45:15] <AzumaHazuki> dressing in layers is really hard when you have super long hair BTW
[23:44:51] * AzumaHazuki got...an ushanka. for cold weather, tovarisch. will get scarf and sweater on next paycheck
[23:39:12] <FatPhil> which matches my shopping today - I now have a new favourite olive stand at the local market
[23:38:28] <nutherguy> Extra Virgin Holive oil?
[23:38:18] <FatPhil> I know, old knooz, but hadn't scene that vid until just now.
[23:37:49] <systemd> ^ 03Van Halen ERUPTION Performed By PRO Bassist
[23:37:47] <FatPhil> https://www.youtube.com
[23:37:43] <FatPhil> what does EVH stand for?
[23:27:17] <nutherguy> Make a copy of an input file (if) using the specified conditions, and send the results to the output file (or standard output if of is not specified). Any number of options can be supplied, although if and of are the most common and are usually specified first. Because dd can handle arbitrary block sizes, it is useful when converting between raw physical devices.
[23:27:17] <nutherguy> dd options [Options: bs=n cbs=n conv=flags]
[23:27:17] <nutherguy> Linux
[23:27:17] <nutherguy> dd
[23:26:33] <systemd> ^ 03What does "dd" stand for?
[23:26:32] <halibut> https://unix.stackexchange.com Somewhat amusing answer (but possibly accurate) for what ``dd'' stands for.
[23:25:21] <nutherguy> one bite
[23:24:58] <Bytram_dewey> now that *that* is done, time to get a bite to eat. afk for a while.
[23:24:50] * nutherguy has come to love USB3
[23:24:24] <Bytram_dewey> averaged 29.9 MB/s
[23:23:56] <Bytram_dewey> dd took 9h 17m 54s to copy a 1 TB SSD to another 1 TB SSD... over slow USB (receiving disk was in an external drive 'caddy')
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[23:19:43] <chromas> Maybe it was EF
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[23:14:53] <nutherguy> dd is done? dd as in disk disassembly?
[23:13:57] <nutherguy> That's pleasant - a new face that didn't turn into another facet of EF
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[23:07:22] <Bytram_dewey> dd is Done! YAY!
[23:07:02] <Bytram_dewey> But, thanks to the Greek societies in college, as well as way too much mathematics, I have the alphabet down pretty well (except for that letter that looks sorta like a tornado -- heck, I'm still not sure how to pronounce it!)
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[23:04:57] <Bytram_dewey> I'm sure my pronunciation stinks. For sake of an example, like seeing "father" and pronouncing "fat her" (i.e. not recognizing dipthongs)
[23:04:48] <AzumaHazuki> TBH the religion died before the Gospels could even be written. Paul fucked it up something fierce
[23:03:01] <Bytram_dewey> It *started* with Strong's. Actually, a word would catch my eye in a recent translation, I'd find the matching word in the KJV, look up *that* word in Strong's and go from there... at first. I eventually developed enough of a sense for the vocabulary (ignoring things like gender and plurals) that I could take an Interlinear and kinda, mostly read along,
[23:00:57] <AzumaHazuki> there is a very good reason so many of the ante-Nicene church fathers were Universalist...and the further away in space, time, and language you get from the start of all this, the more you see Annihilationism and eternal-torture-ism
[22:59:47] <AzumaHazuki> also Strong's has an...agenda. any book that tells you "aionion" has, in itself, the meaning "eternal" is full of it
[22:59:23] <AzumaHazuki> the bible would be Koine
[22:57:45] <Austrina> almost 1am
[22:57:41] <Austrina> here is 00:57
[22:57:12] <Austrina> haha
[22:57:01] <Bytram_dewey> Wow! Is my typing off tonight!
[22:56:48] <SedBot> <Bytram_dewey> does not know if his knowledge of Greek is Attic or Koine; whatever was in the New Testament. The strange part? I taught myself by looking up words in a Stoing's Concordance and later by trying to read an Interlinear Translation of the then-latest Nestle's version.
[22:56:48] <Bytram_dewey> s/een/eek/
[22:56:33] * Bytram_dewey does not know if his knowledge of Green is Attic or Koine; whatever was in the New Testament. The strange part? I taught myself by looking up words in a Stoing's Concordance and later by trying to read an Interlinear Translation of the then-latest Nestle's version.
[22:55:20] <Austrina> are you excited for the US election?
[22:54:14] <Bytram_dewey> Oy!
[22:54:03] <SedBot> <Bytram_dewey> <SedBot> <Bytram_dewey? The hard part? Have you ever tried to find an ancient 7-year-old to talk to>
[22:54:03] <Bytram_dewey> SedBot: s/>/?/
[22:53:47] <SedBot> <Bytram_dewey> The hard part? Have you ever tried to find an ancient 7-year-old to talk to>
[22:53:46] <Bytram_dewey> s/tired/tried/
[22:53:45] <Austrina> hahaha
[22:53:35] <Bytram_dewey> The hard part? Have you ever tired to find an ancient 7-year-old to talk to>
[22:53:34] <AzumaHazuki> i know a little Koine from some of the bible study i did, but like maybe a dozen words and no grammar
[22:53:23] <Austrina> I used to study Ancient Greek and Latin but I don't remember anything at all
[22:52:57] <Austrina> Bytram_dewey: LOL
[22:52:43] <Austrina> well, in Spain we don't usually use the subject in a sentence
[22:52:21] * Bytram_dewey only knows English, convrsational German, and can read ancient greek at the level of (guessing) about a 7-year-old
[22:52:16] <AzumaHazuki> thanks :) I may need to ask for your help soonish actually
[22:52:00] <Austrina> AzumaHazuki: I could help you with your Spanish if you want.
[22:51:48] <AzumaHazuki> and my habit is to never use tu/vosotros so i sound more mexican than castillian
[22:51:31] <AzumaHazuki> Castillian honestly, since it's what i learned in school. but i'm terrible at both due to tiny vocabulary and poor hearing
[22:51:01] <Bytram_dewey> Especially if te last one is shared in a "conspiratorial whisper"
[22:50:56] <Austrina> AzumaHazuki: do you prefer Castillian or Mexican Spanish?
[22:50:24] * AzumaHazuki speaks some crappy mix of Castillian and Mexican Spanish, a little Japanese, and can curse in Russian, German, Finnish, and Polish. American =P
[22:50:19] <Bytram_dewey> AzumaHazuki: works better as a joke to count 'em down from 3. ;)
[22:49:45] <Bytram_dewey> Mare see! :D
[22:49:45] <Austrina> hahaha
[22:49:35] <AzumaHazuki> you know what they say...a person who speaks two languages is a bilingual, three is a trilingual, and only one, is called "American"
[22:49:25] <Bytram_dewey> no problem!
[22:49:20] <Austrina> what did you just say?
[22:49:16] <Bytram_dewey> Das Stimt! Ich spreche auch Deutsch!
[22:49:15] <tedious> LOL
[22:49:12] <Austrina> I'm sorry, I don't speak German :(
[22:48:50] <Austrina> :P
[22:48:49] <Austrina> they speak German
[22:48:46] <Austrina> and... there's no such thing as Austrian
[22:48:44] <Bytram_dewey> Es sing ungefare mitnacht fur ihnen?
[22:48:34] <Austrina> nope, I'm not from Austria
[22:48:30] <Austrina> nop
[22:48:13] <Austrina> Bytram_dewey: Hello! My native languages are Catalan and Spanish. I'm from Catalonia, Spain.
[22:48:05] <Bytram_dewey> oh, the other one! ;)
[22:47:46] <Bytram_dewey> g'day, mate!
[22:47:34] <tedious> Austrian :)
[22:47:29] <SedBot> <Bytram_dewey> Austrina: Hi! If you don't mind my asking... what is your native language?
[22:47:29] <Bytram_dewey> s/our/your/
[22:47:15] <Bytram_dewey> Austrina: Hi! If you don't mind my asking... what is our native language?
[22:45:14] <Austrina> tedious: thank you :)
[22:45:00] <tedious> No your english is just fine so far. :)
[22:44:49] <tedious> Wow.
[22:44:44] <Austrina> BTW, sorry about my English. I'm not an English native speaker
[22:44:31] <Austrina> and just before my vision was in black and white
[22:44:16] <systemd> https://www.pennmedicine.org - What Your Nail Health Can Tell You: Don't Ignore These 5 Signs ...
[22:44:15] <Bytram_dewey> =g anemia fingernails
[22:44:09] <Austrina> I remember fainting all the time
[22:43:50] <tedious> Well my nailbeds are as pale as the rest of my fingers. :)
[22:43:47] <Austrina> exactly, maybe it isn't true
[22:43:32] <tedious> But who knows if that's true.
[22:43:27] <Austrina> any symptoms?
[22:43:17] <tedious> I take a multivitamin every day and it's supposed to have 100% of the iron an adult needs.
[22:42:50] <tedious> Maybe?
[22:42:43] <tedious> I can't tell. :)
[22:42:34] <Austrina> I used to have it when I was younger
[22:42:25] <Austrina> tedious: do you have anemia?
[22:41:17] <tedious> I'm already so pale how could anyone tell? :)
[22:41:03] <tedious> Hmm pale nailbeds?
[22:40:23] <tedious> I can't afford to just run off meet with a doctor and have my blood tested just to "feel better" so I'm going to do some homework first.
[22:39:09] <tedious> I'm just trying to get a clue before I go jumping into the Wikipedia rabbit hole. :)
[22:39:07] <AzumaHazuki> tedious: it's kind of difficult to tell electrolyte imbalances before they start causing heart issues. iron isn't an electrolyte but deficiency may cause anaemia - weakness, pale nailbeds, excessive fatigue, low immunity
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[22:38:39] <tedious> AzumaHazuki: Sure thing. :)
[22:38:26] <tedious> Like I've heard that iron deficiency shows up as bloodshot eyes.
[22:38:03] <Austrina> and congrats
[22:38:02] <AzumaHazuki> disclaimer: none of this is professional advice, i am not a doctor, please ask someone licensed instead of relying on me
[22:37:59] <tedious> AzumaHazuki: Are there any other ways to tell if one or more are out of whack?
[22:37:50] <Austrina> good luck!
[22:37:39] <Austrina> I know nothing about this subject, but now I know I can ask you hehe
[22:37:30] <AzumaHazuki> i literally just got hired this week at a hospital which is a wonderful change from outpatient. hoping i pass probation...
[22:37:20] <tedious> Darn.
[22:37:06] <Austrina> oh cool
[22:37:02] <AzumaHazuki> but an utterly obsessive one
[22:36:57] <AzumaHazuki> no, just a newbie pharmacy tech
[22:36:46] <Austrina> AzumaHazuki: are you a doctor? :)
[22:36:29] <AzumaHazuki> blood testing is useful for Na and K but somewhat less so for Ca and almost useless for Mg.
[22:36:18] <Austrina> hahaha I can see you're like me
[22:36:00] <tedious> I guess the only way to tell is to get your blood tested.
[22:35:52] <AzumaHazuki> LOL, me too honey. coffee, tea, diet Monster...they had me do a drug test and said there were alarming levels of urine in my caffeine sample! :D
[22:35:40] <tedious> Hmmmmmm.
[22:35:24] <Austrina> I usually drink lots of coffee :/
[22:35:20] <AzumaHazuki> that said, the american diet isn't exactly lacking sodium
[22:35:09] <AzumaHazuki> i'd worry more about too much potassium but ideally don't let any of them get out of balance
[22:34:45] <tedious> So too much potassium at the same time as less sodium than normal would be bad right?
[22:34:35] <AzumaHazuki> caffeins can definitely mess it up at high doses. IIRC it increases blood pressure, respiration rate, metabolism (a little) and encourages the release of catecholamines (adrenaline etc)
[22:33:57] <tedious> Interesting.
[22:33:44] <Austrina> or caffeine?
[22:33:38] <AzumaHazuki> Ca2+ and Mg2+ cations are sort of partners, as are Na+ and K+ (sodium-potassium pump)
[22:33:11] <Austrina> well, you definitely can mess up your heart rhythm by consuming other substances, like drugs
[22:33:05] <AzumaHazuki> the heart is affected more by potassium than the others. I personally would worry about potassium >>> calcium > magnesium > sodium, but too much calcium or magnesium isn't safe either
[22:32:56] <tedious> Maybe magnesium too?
[22:32:44] <tedious> I was thinking maybe excess calcium.
[22:32:15] <AzumaHazuki> definitely yes
[22:31:58] <tedious> AzumaHazuki: Any ideas?
[22:31:38] <tedious> I've been wondering if it's possible to mess up your heart rhythm by eating things like too much salt or other minerals like supplements.
[22:30:56] <Austrina> yeah, I've just seen it, but I haven't read it yet.
[22:30:38] <Austrina> thank you, tedious!
[22:30:11] <tedious> I'm curious about the last article posted about heart beats.
[22:29:36] <tedious> Welcome! :)
[22:29:20] <Austrina> how are you?
[22:29:17] <Austrina> yes, I'm new!
[22:25:34] <tedious> First time here?
[22:25:03] <tedious> Hello Austrina.
[22:21:19] <Austrina> Hi there.
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[22:06:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Research Demonstrates a Molecular Dance that Keeps Your Heart Beating - https://sylnt.us - heart-strings
[20:58:42] <FatPhil> shut up and eat yout kebab!
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[19:50:03] <nutherguy> Occam's eraser: The philosophical principle that even the simplest solution is bound to have something wrong with it.
[19:48:55] * nutherguy suspects that RandomFactor ain't what he used to be
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[19:36:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Education Groups Drop their Lawsuit Against Public.Resource.Org - https://sylnt.us - ignorance-is-no-excuse-under-the-law...but-if-you-cannot-find-out-what-the-law-IS...
[19:12:31] <RandomFactor> Cars ain't what they used to be.
[19:12:08] <RandomFactor> I litterally jump started it from 'clicky-dead' in 30 seconds by hooking up the battery charger on trickle (2a) and pressing start, then drove off. Engine fired up normally a few moments later as per usual, so i'm assuming the HV battery is what kicks that over.
[19:09:30] <RandomFactor> Jumping is wierd too, you don't actually start the engine, just fire up the electronics.
[18:52:28] <RandomFactor> It's some wierd
[18:52:25] <RandomFactor> yah, and turns out you 'jump' it from the engine compartment in front where the cables connect.
[18:52:07] <chromas> Maybe it uses an EF extension
[18:52:00] <chromas> I've seen the batteries stashed behind the wheel well, but going to the trunk would take an extra long cable
[18:51:53] <RandomFactor> 2014, so it made ~6 years
[18:51:36] <RandomFactor> until it died
[18:51:33] <RandomFactor> I did too
[18:51:11] <chromas> I just assumed hybrids didn't have the extra battery
[18:50:33] <RandomFactor> I gotta admit i would prefer the batter wasn't connected with the passenger compartment at all though.
[18:49:57] <RandomFactor> I guess some idiot didn't bother plugging it in and died at some point. /shrug.
[18:49:20] <RandomFactor> Also why do they say professional installation only? Because it has.... A VENT TUBE? Seriously? If you can change a battery you can plug in the stupid vent tube so you don't die from fumes.
[18:48:13] <RandomFactor> I might have to go back to the office one day. Need it to run if that ever happens :-p
[18:47:42] <chromas> RandomFactor: Why are you messing with the battery? Just throw it in the trash and buy a new one, nerd!
[18:47:35] <nutherguy> randomfactor - the automotive engineers thought it would be funny is why
[18:47:24] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03NASA’s Next Moonsuit is Going to be Damned Impressive" (1 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[18:47:03] <systemd> Submitting "NASA’s Next Moonsuit Is Going to Be Damned Impressive"...
[18:47:01] <nutherguy> =submit https://gizmodo.com
[18:36:55] <RandomFactor> Why do i have to disassemble the trunk of my hybrid to change the battery? (the normal 12v car battery, not the high voltage thing)
[18:32:59] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Eel Effects: Fears After Release of Exotic Species Into New York Lake" (18 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[18:32:37] <systemd> Submitting "Eel effects: fears after release of exotic species into New York lake"...( 1 modified urls; http://www.theguardian.com )
[18:32:35] <nutherguy> =submit https://www.theguardian.com
[18:30:07] <RandomFactor> so that bakery model doesn't apply
[18:29:55] <RandomFactor> Supporters go to rallies. That's why Trump has massive rallies and Biden talks to a few democrat precinct captains.
[18:29:18] <RandomFactor> But both will get you out to vote.
[18:29:07] <RandomFactor> Trump has supporters and haters. Biden doesn't really have 'supporters'
[18:28:50] <RandomFactor> Doesn't apply. I've said it before.
[18:28:25] <systemd> ^ 03I Hung Out With 20 ‘Eco-Goats’ and It Was a Blaaaaast
[18:28:24] <nutherguy> https://earther.gizmodo.com
[18:19:57] <nutherguy> Apparently, Biden can put a permanent "lid" on his campaign
[18:19:01] <systemd> ^ 03LANDSLIDE! Trump Wins Lochel Pennsylvania Cookie Poll -- Doubles Biden Total (Video)
[18:19:01] <nutherguy> https://www.thegatewaypundit.com
[18:14:08] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Halted Trials Raise New Safety Questions About 'Rushed' COVID-19 Vaccines" (23 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[18:13:46] <systemd> Submitting "Halted Trials Raise New Safety Questions About 'Rushed' COVID-19 Vaccines"...
[18:13:45] <nutherguy> =submit https://www.zerohedge.com
[18:13:35] <nutherguy> I guess this one article summarizes several corona virus research "pauses"
[18:11:31] <chromas> The Sciencealert favicon always makes me think I have a Snopes page open
[18:09:24] <RandomFactor> Off to forage for a bit. I've heard rumors someone went shopping for groceries and I must confirm the famine has ended.
[18:08:12] <nutherguy> un-dupe
[18:08:08] <nutherguy> or re-dupe
[18:07:52] <nutherguy> need a de-dupe tool
[18:07:50] <RandomFactor> not that Win 10 doesn't deserve extra beat down...
[18:07:19] <nutherguy> Got it
[18:07:03] <systemd> ^ 03Microsoft Just Force Restarted My Windows PC Again to Install More Unwanted Apps: SoylentNews Submission
[18:07:02] <RandomFactor> FYI - that's the same as https://soylentnews.org
[18:06:25] * chromas locks down his bookmarks file
[18:06:10] <nutherguy> It's installed into the browser?
[18:05:16] <chromas> How do you install a web app
[18:04:48] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Windows 10 is Installing Office Web Apps Without Asking Permission" (4 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[18:04:26] <systemd> Submitting "Windows 10 is installing Office web apps without asking permission"...
[18:04:24] <nutherguy> =submit https://www.engadget.com
[17:55:44] <systemd> <p><b>Journal Reference</b>:<br/>Kezheng Li, Sirazul Haque, Augusto Martins, <em>et al</em>. <b>Light trapping in solar cells: simple design rules to maximize absorption</b> [open], <cite>Optica</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.1364/OPTICA.394885">10.1364/OPTICA.394885</a>)</p>
[17:55:41] <RandomFactor> =cite https://doi.org
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[17:52:13] <AzumaHazuki> time for me to get some warm clothing. i feel a chill in the air...
[17:48:00] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Home-made Covid-19 Vaccine Appeared to Work, but Questions Remained" (16 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[17:47:39] <systemd> Submitting "Home-made Covid-19 vaccine appeared to work, but questions remained"...
[17:47:37] <nutherguy> =submit https://www.deccanherald.com
[17:35:48] <systemd> ^ 03COVID-19 will probably become endemic – here's what that means
[17:35:47] <nutherguy> submit https://thenextweb.com
[17:19:50] <chromas> I, for one, am totally shocked.
[17:17:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Elon Musk’s Vegas Loop Won’t Transport as Many People as Promised - https://sylnt.us - Boring!
[17:03:58] <Bytram_dewey> break time; afk
[17:03:16] <Bytram_dewey> RandomFactor: For some reason, I generally do have a pretty good idea what stories have been published so I'd prolly recognize a dupe and not choose to submit it -- I wonder why? ;^)
[16:37:12] <RandomFactor> Ever see a SN article in your feeds and click on it thinking it would make a good submission?
[16:10:43] <chromas> FatPhil: gibs me dat boardgame
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[15:25:10] <systemd> ^ 03Butt Plug Hacking! Real Penetration Testing – DEF CON 27
[15:25:09] <RandomFactor> It got discussed, but still kinda surprised noone submitted https://www.youtube.com
[15:23:36] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03The Good and Not So Good of the IoT Cybersecurity Improvement Act of 2020 - Security Boulevard" (8 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[15:23:14] <systemd> Submitting "The Good and Not So Good of the IoT Cybersecurity Improvement Act of 2020 - Security Boulevard"...
[15:23:12] <RandomFactor> =submit https://securityboulevard.com
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[15:09:28] <c0lo> Hah, the futures are dim, stock's gonna crash.
[15:05:34] <RandomFactor> Just be sure to vote for Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho!
[15:04:47] <RandomFactor> I'm wearing my BRAWNDO shirt as I type this...
[15:04:13] <c0lo> The only surprise is campaigning in game. What's next? Fortnite battle royale as national debate?
[15:04:08] <RandomFactor> and gaffing anyway...
[15:03:43] <RandomFactor> also it would be a better use of his time than holding rallies with 6 attendees
[15:03:24] <RandomFactor> so what's the point if it's not real?
[15:03:15] <RandomFactor> you get pictures with him
[15:02:31] <c0lo> @RandyFactor: no surprise there. Why 'sadly' tho'?
[14:59:30] <RandomFactor> C0Lo: Sadly it isn't Joe Biden playing Joe Biden on Biden Island.
[14:56:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - AI Localization Tool Claims to Translate Your Words in Your Voice - https://sylnt.us - lip-sync?
[14:55:25] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03BleedingTooth: Intel Discloses Early, Angering Linux Lovers - Security Boulevard" (29 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:55:03] <systemd> Submitting "BleedingTooth: Intel Discloses Early, Angering Linux Lovers - Security Boulevard"...
[14:55:01] <RandomFactor> =submit https://securityboulevard.com
[14:54:14] <systemd> ^ 03Joe Biden has an Animal Crossing: New Horizons island that you can visit
[14:54:13] <c0lo> Da fuck! Really? https://www.gamesradar.com
[14:40:02] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Microsoft Just Force Restarted My Windows PC Again to Install More Unwanted Apps" (1 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:39:40] <systemd> Submitting "Microsoft just force restarted my Windows PC again to install more unwanted apps"...
[14:39:38] <RandomFactor> =submit https://www.theverge.com
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[13:20:52] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Warm Pasta Helps Hot, Angry Neutron Stars Cool Down" (38 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[13:20:30] <systemd> Submitting "Warm pasta helps hot, angry neutron stars cool down"...
[13:20:28] <c0lo> =submit "gnocchi, waffle, lasagna and anti-spaghetti" https://www.livescience.com
[13:07:38] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Covid-19: NHS Trials Drones to Carry Tests and Equipment" (10 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[13:07:17] <systemd> Submitting "Covid-19: NHS trials drones to carry tests and equipment"...
[13:07:15] <c0lo> =submit https://www.bbc.com
[13:05:48] <systemd> ^ 03Zeptoseconds: New world record in short time measurement
[13:05:46] <c0lo> https://phys.org
[13:05:21] <systemd> ^ 03Zeptosecond birth time delay in molecular photoionization
[13:05:19] <c0lo> https://science.sciencemag.org
[13:04:21] <systemd> Error: DOI not found
[13:04:21] <c0lo> =doi 10.1126/science.abb9318
[13:03:32] <c0lo> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[13:01:38] <Bytram_dewey> ;)
[13:01:24] <Bytram_dewey> as opposed to 'Later This Next Fall'??
[12:58:10] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08Virgin Galactic Readies First Spaceflight From Spaceport America for ‘Later This This Fall’ – " (6 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[12:57:48] <systemd> Submitting "Virgin Galactic readies first spaceflight from Spaceport America for ‘later this this fall’ – TechCrunch"...( 1 modified urls; https://social.techcrunch.com )
[12:57:46] <c0lo> =submit https://techcrunch.com
[12:51:05] <c0lo> take that^, Musk
[12:50:52] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03NASA Just Gave Nokia Millions of Dollars to Upgrade the Moon's Cell Service" (8 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[12:50:30] <systemd> Submitting "NASA just gave Nokia millions of dollars to upgrade the moon's cell service"...
[12:50:29] <c0lo> =submit no-5g-on-the-moon https://www.androidpolice.com
[12:47:47] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Strangely Behaving Red Supergiant Betelgeuse Smaller and Closer Than First Thought" (20 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[12:47:25] <systemd> Submitting "Strangely Behaving Red Supergiant Betelgeuse Smaller and Closer Than First Thought"...
[12:47:22] <c0lo> =submit betelgeuse-just-got-closer https://scitechdaily.com
[12:46:18] <systemd> <p><b>Journal Reference</b>:<br/><b>Standing on the Shoulders of Giants: New Mass and Distance Estimates for Betelgeuse through Combined Evolutionary, Asteroseismic, and Hydrodynamic Simulations with MESA - IOPscience</b>, <cite>The Astrophysical Journal</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.3847/1538-4357/abb8db">10.3847/1538-4357/abb8db</a>)</p>
[12:46:16] <c0lo> =doi 10.3847/1538-4357/abb8db
[12:43:35] <Bytram_dewey> FatPhil: just an idea? Maybe write up the rules, documentation, whatevs you think someone new to the game might want to know and then, when you have *that*... submit it to the site as a story? Or, maybe as a journal entry?
[12:26:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Cosmonauts Patch Small Air Leak on International Space Station - https://sylnt.us - where's-the-duct-tape?
[12:20:37] <systemd> ^ 03Trump fans play Born in the USA outside his hospital without realising what the lyrics actually mean
[12:20:34] <c0lo> from the entertaining-fart-of-patriotism dept: https://www.independent.co.uk
[12:18:30] <FatPhil> maybe I should write some rules down.
[12:18:15] <FatPhil> Eventually I'll write an AI for it, and see whether it trounces me.
[12:17:38] <FatPhil> I'm unsure whether it's "deep" or "confusing", as I've not yet worked out any strategy for it!
[12:16:50] <FatPhil> Anyone want to help playtest a boardgame I just invented/wrote? Requires perl/tk.
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[11:21:58] <FatPhil> seconded
[11:20:11] <SSLrenewed> Thanks for putting things back together.
[11:19:40] <SSLrenewed> Glad it broke before ya left then.
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[11:06:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, time to start gathering crap up for a river trip. anything else breaks today is going to have to stay broke unless someone else fixes it.
[10:57:45] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5373
[10:57:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:57:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, time for moar coffees
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[10:51:32] <chromas> and your chips for free
[10:48:51] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- Money For Nothing (Unedited) - Dire Straits [HD Audio]
[10:48:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt R8anmTZ_W68
[10:43:19] <systemd> ^ 03Dire Straits - Sultans Of Swing
[10:43:17] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[10:43:12] <chromas> I didn't know Jon Stewart was in a British rock band in the '70s
[10:41:54] <SSLrenewed> Yay! Ninety more days of SSL.
[10:41:25] <chromas> That's 386 SX, of course
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[10:41:05] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 386
[10:41:05] <Bytram_dewey> TheMightyBuzzard++ thank you! I've been w/o email since my lappy went sideways, so did not get the LE reminder
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[10:40:21] <lld> and I am very patient
[10:40:10] <lld> I'll let the pirates do their thing
[10:40:03] <lld> >Chances are Steam/Valve won't break it, but some DRM on a game you pick up might.
[10:40:00] <Bender> karma of chameleon is 22
[10:40:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> !karma chameleon
[10:39:48] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 385
[10:39:48] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard-- yeah
[10:39:43] <chromas> oh oops
[10:39:40] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 386
[10:39:40] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard++
[10:39:38] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 385
[10:39:37] <c0lo> TheMightyBuzzard-- you're late
[10:39:28] <MrPlow> 1576 East Main St, Humboldt, TN 38343, USA - Today: "Clear throughout the day." 67/50F, Humidity: 59%, Precip: 6%, Wind ~8mph. Sun: "Rain in the morning." 67/58F, Humidity: 75%, Precip: 60%, Wind ~8mph. Mon: "Mostly cloudy throughout the day." 75/56F, Humidity: 82%, Precip: 36%, Wind ~9mph.
[10:39:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather
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[10:39:10] * systemd points at Bytram
[10:39:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> =blame
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[10:39:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~blame
[10:39:03] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[10:39:03] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[10:39:02] <NotSanguine> TheMightyBuzzard: Confirmed. Thank you!
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[10:37:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> certs should be fixed
[10:34:21] <SSLexpired> Chances are Steam/Valve won't break it, but some DRM on a game you pick up might.
[10:31:59] <lld> it is for games, so if anything, only steam/valve will break it
[10:31:36] <lld> yeah, I don't even do any office work or emails on the game PC
[10:30:40] <SSLexpired> lld: Once you had Windows XP SP3 with the firewall enabled by default most attacks were stopped/slowed. Same with Win7. If you didn't do anything stupid, you were highly unlikely to have problems.
[10:29:43] <lld> then again, I use a browser that can be updated without rebooting the PC :)
[10:29:16] <lld> still works fine for gaming
[10:29:11] <lld> my win7 gamebox never had any AV, never rebooted for years
[10:28:15] <SSLexpired> So many users just wouldn't update at all, ever. I once worked with a lady that did exactly that. She had antivirus installed, but also never updated that either. When I ran the antivirus update and scanned her machine it found about 600 infected files from three or four different viruses.
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[10:27:02] <lld> and their "audits"
[10:26:58] <lld> yes, they are also under pressure from the same damned beancounters
[10:26:42] <SSLexpired> Microsoft got tired of being the virtual punching bag for all the people who installed Windows XP and never updated their systems at all and didn't install antivirus either.
[10:26:15] <lld> also, security blocking your release the last minute when the list of prohibited software changed when no one was looking
[10:25:50] <SSLexpired> It's as if they couldn't understand the concept that the security patch was issued because the vulnerability was already there.
[10:25:38] <chromas> They probably work for Microsoft now and that's why we have forced updates
[10:24:10] <SSLexpired> LOL security. Last place I worked the security people sent notifications that scared the crap outta the managers. They treated every security patch as if it had to be installed in 24 hours or we'd be compromised or fail an audit.
[10:23:05] <lld> and then security also screaming at you because ODMs refuse to update old versions with known vulnerabilities once they hit production
[10:22:05] <lld> because security will hound him nonstop otherwise for security updates
[10:21:47] <lld> boss wants to release their product on the LTS kernel
[10:20:52] <SSLexpired> Better than telling the boss to ask Linus directly!
[10:20:41] <lld> MUH LTS KERNEL
[10:20:32] <FatPhil> lld also, it shouldn't matter anyway
[10:19:59] <lld> no I told them Linus moves at his own speed since he's not an employee of the company
[10:19:32] <SSLexpired> lld: You gave them a forecast of some sort?
[10:19:25] <FatPhil> I refused to unix2dos the file for her, and brought shame upon her. Not a good move in a Korean company,
[10:19:24] <systemd> ^ 03phb-crystal-ball.org
[10:19:23] <lld> http://phb-crystal-ball.org good thing someone made this
[10:18:54] <lld> my boss wanted a forecast of when the next few linux versions will be out
[10:18:39] <chromas> You should've mixed tabs and spaces
[10:18:18] <FatPhil> I was once tasked with creating a regular "what's new in the linux kernel" report. My boss' boss' boss' was unable to read the report, and presumed I'd fucked up. It was plain text.
[10:18:16] <SSLexpired> Yes. :)
[10:18:09] <chromas> I should use a capital E
[10:17:37] <SSLexpired> Aren't all web browsers technically electron-based?
[10:17:07] <chromas> who will create the first electron-based web browser?
[10:16:53] <chromas> notepad needs to be recreated in electron
[10:16:43] <SSLexpired> Water at the top, piss at the bottom.
[10:16:38] <lld> before reaching the engineers
[10:16:29] <lld> and filtered through managers
[10:16:21] <lld> requirements are waterfalled down from marketing
[10:16:07] <lld> watergile
[10:15:52] <Ingar> fortunately I quit programming
[10:15:26] <lld> I had to explain the command pattern and multithreading to the project lead
[10:15:06] <Ingar> SSLexpired: mbut y current employer switched to Agile!
[10:13:28] <Ingar> but notepad doesnt run in my browser!
[10:11:36] <SSLexpired> But, but...if you copy/paste then all you need to update stuff is find and replace all in Notepad. Easy, done. All changes complete. Ship it!
[10:10:21] <Ingar> I haven't had faith in sofware development since :)
[10:10:07] <Ingar> in my first job, I had to explain to the project lead that copy paste isn't code reuse
[10:07:27] <lld> because the software development process doesn't allow for code reuse
[10:07:07] <lld> so its usually easier to just roll your own and rewrite everything from scratch rather than depend on 3rd party software that does exactly what you want
[10:06:33] <lld> debian dpkg is also "unmaintained"
[10:05:13] <lld> they only execute according to very simple instructions, but with overwhelming force behind it
[10:04:45] <lld> they are very far removed from the things they govern
[10:04:29] <lld> beancounters read only excel sheets
[10:03:57] <lld> if they did Windows, they'd want Microsoft to drop Notepad
[10:03:33] <lld> "unmaintained"
[10:03:28] <lld> likewise for X11
[10:03:15] <Ingar> back to the best browser ever
[10:03:14] <SSLexpired> Sure, nobody's maintaining it because ti's DONE. It works, there's nothing to modify. Just leave it alone. :P
[10:03:11] <lld> I deal with beancounters that want to drop gptfdisk because it is "unmaintained"
[10:03:08] <Ingar> lynx works fine
[10:03:05] <Ingar> oh
[10:02:27] <lld> some beancounter with a checklist is going to sound the alarm on it
[10:02:24] <SSLexpired> Now I have to tell people to go get an FTP client to connect to my FTP servers.
[10:02:12] <lld> nobody is maintaining it
[10:02:05] <lld> it hasn't changed
[10:02:02] <lld> there's your problem
[10:01:58] <lld> >spec hasn't changed in ages. I still don't understand why browsers dropped support for it.
[10:01:57] <SSLexpired> It's not redundant for people not running a web server.
[10:01:49] <Ingar> FTP was usually faster
[10:01:16] <FatPhil> HTTP>>FTP, it was redundant
[10:00:30] <SSLexpired> FTP's super simple and the spec hasn't changed in ages. I still don't understand why browsers dropped support for it. It's not like a maintenance nightmare or anything. They probably hadn't even looked at that section of code in a decade.
[09:57:53] <Ingar> RIght, firefox removed ftp support
[09:57:44] <chromas> curl and any other http client not run by commies like Mozilla should connect just fine
[09:57:18] <Ingar> RSS-over-ftp
[09:57:08] <chromas> it's just an xml file served up by the web server
[09:56:41] <SSLexpired> Does RSS even care about HTTPS?
[09:55:47] <chromas> Probably ignores the evil bit
[09:55:28] <chromas> at least Bender can hit up the RSS feed
[09:55:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Dickey’s PoS Breach Could Hit Three Million Cards - https://sylnt.us - cash-n-carry?
[09:54:11] <chromas> There's a light telling you when to go in?
[09:54:01] <SedBot> <Ingar> their first real action is the new lockdown light
[09:54:01] <Ingar> s/now/new/
[09:53:52] <Ingar> their first real action is the now lockdown light
[09:53:36] <Ingar> where they sidetracked the winners
[09:53:26] <Ingar> it took 1.5yrs to form a govt
[09:53:20] <FatPhil> hahahahahaha!
[09:53:13] <Ingar> I did vote
[09:53:06] <FatPhil> And please remember to vote
[09:53:01] <FatPhil> Dorsey and the Zuck approve, you may view.
[09:52:55] * chromas widens eyes, as if in a cult-style trance
[09:52:55] <chromas> "The solution"
[09:52:37] <Ingar> "Approved content"
[09:52:11] <Ingar> it fits Web 3.0 though
[09:52:04] <SSLexpired> chromas: Too late, I'm sure someone's patented it and sold "the solution" to a bank or something already.
[09:51:47] <FatPhil> well, it's hard to be broken in principle, and not be broken from the beginningh
[09:51:18] <Ingar> FatPhil: the concept has been broken from the very beginning
[09:51:16] * chromas invents the blockchainweb of trust
[09:51:15] <FatPhil> If I had more control over who I was allowed to say "I trust", and by how much, I'd give it more credibility
[09:51:06] <SSLexpired> It's not that bad, but it did take me about six hours to figure it out. If I had to do it again it'd probably take me 30 minutes or less. No automation setup here.
[09:50:00] <FatPhil> I disagree with the whole principle of the tree of trust, so actively want to avoid subscribing to its false religion
[09:49:53] * chromas has a systemd timer to renew the LE cert
[09:49:13] <SSLexpired> I wouldn't bother either, but I wanted to see how it worked, how difficult it was, etc...
[09:48:27] <Ingar> I can't be bothered with https
[09:47:45] <SSLexpired> Speaking of monitoring and alerts, I just got my first Let's Encrypt certificate about a month ago. I should probably set that up for myself. :P
[09:47:20] <FatPhil> Computers discriminate against base-12
[09:43:47] <chromas> I sense discrimination against nonbinary DACs
[09:43:01] <FatPhil> It's only copying when straight white males with power and money do it?
[09:42:43] <chromas> Nonsense! Just redefine the word "copying"
[09:41:44] <FatPhil> one cannot play a cd without copying the data. so basically, that's a "no play" bit
[09:39:46] * chromas sets false sense of security to maximum false
[09:39:14] <chromas> or just pwn the cert authorities
[09:38:44] <c0lo> @FatPhil that actually cool. It means "encryption everywhere", which mean one will need to switch on the evil bit to attract attention.
[09:38:37] <chromas> and the browser stupidly complies
[09:38:25] <Ingar> it's like a no copying bit on audio cd data
[09:38:15] <chromas> oh wait
[09:38:14] <chromas> Next thing there's gonna be a CSS option to disable zooming
[09:38:04] <chromas> Nothing in the headers should determine what I can do with my browser
[09:37:58] <Ingar> quite
[09:37:52] <chromas> That HSTS thing is retarded
[09:37:49] <SSLexpired> I mean, you *could* turn off HSTS temporarily so people could continue to the site anyway...but I'm not sure how appealing that is.
[09:37:21] <Ingar> EDge gloriously connects
[09:37:02] * chromas takes the condom off
[09:36:43] <FatPhil> my phone doesn't do most protocols, so I can't even see 90% of the internet now, because the world's been forced to "protect" me.
[09:36:34] <SSLexpired> Firefox does have exception buttons, but HSTS prevents it.
[09:36:24] <chromas> Tomorrow morning, the IPs will change and there won't be anybody to update DNS for three hours before he wakes up
[09:36:20] <SSLexpired> This is why you have calendar reminders, alerts, mintoring, etc. :)
[09:36:03] <Ingar> great, it seems firefox no longer has an exception button
[09:35:30] <chromas> This is day two of TheMightyBuzzard free-weekend special
[09:35:12] <SSLexpired> Like, 15 minutes ago, yeah.
[09:35:02] <Ingar> cert expired?
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[09:34:08] <c0lo> 2 diodes antiparallel will do.
[09:33:19] * chromas shakes FatPhil's screen
[09:33:06] <chromas> FULLLLL BRIDGEEE
[09:32:49] <FatPhil> bridge rectifier?
[09:32:28] <chromas> Does this someone know anything about AC LEDs?
[09:31:19] <c0lo> Need a ddos? I think I can get in touch with someone in less than 6 steps.
[09:29:09] <chromas> Each day when he wakes up, there's going to be a new broken thing on soylentnews!
[09:28:52] <chromas> Don't tell TheMightyBuzzard but we're actually having a weekend special for him
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[09:28:04] <aristarchus> Good, um, evening? c0lo, whoever you are!
[09:27:21] <c0lo> sleep well, magister.
[09:26:50] <aristarchus> WICITA, as I always say.
[09:26:24] <c0lo> @cromas there, systemd googled it for you.
[09:25:37] <systemd> https://themeisle.com - How to Renew Your SSL Certificate in 4 Simple Steps (2020 Tutorial)
[09:25:37] <c0lo> =g how to renew SSL certificate
[09:25:24] <aristarchus> Or from IRC. Well, we are dead, now, again, in the water. So I bid all adeiu.
[09:24:53] <c0lo> No more submission from IRC either.
[09:24:36] <c0lo> Heh.
[09:24:22] <systemd> aristarchus, 04submit failed: SSL peer certificate or SSH remote key was not OK on handle 7F256C02DEE0
[09:24:21] <aristarchus> =submit https://www.theverge.com
[09:22:19] <aristarchus> Well, I guess no more aristarchus submissions from the main page.
[09:21:15] <aristarchus> yep, my connection is not private. Expired cert? Newbie mistake! Again while TMB Is sound asleep. Coincidence?
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[09:20:56] <c0lo> "Websites prove their identity via certificates, which are valid for a set time period. The certificate for soylentnews.org expired on 10/17/2020."
[09:19:58] <c0lo> What fuckery?
[09:19:25] <aristarchus> Shirley you jest? What new fuckery is this?
[09:18:35] <c0lo> S/N certificate expired!!!
[09:18:00] <c0lo> chrooommaaaasss... aaaasss... ass... s. Do you hear?... ear... r
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[09:17:05] <aristarchus> Replay of so many sad attempts! Support your right to arm Bears! Or, Bear arms? Maybe Bare arms, or bare bear arms. Americans confuse me.
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[09:09:36] <c0lo> Your's is unfortunatelly a saga. That one is a novelette.
[09:05:43] <systemd> ^ 03The Town That Went Feral: SoylentNews Submission
[09:05:39] <c0lo> Go read it, 't's in the subs queue. https://soylentnews.org
[09:05:35] <aristarchus> Some very wealthy people keep feeding Rebuplicans, and squirrels, so they keep showing up on ballots.
[09:02:57] <aristarchus> Haven't read it. but we have a similar problem with smaller wildlife and "feeders" in my neighborhood.
[09:02:12] <SedBot> <c0lo> Did you like that newrepublic link about libertarians and bears that FatPhil found? It made my weekend.
[09:02:12] <c0lo> s/pup/pub/
[09:01:59] <c0lo> Did you like that newrepuplic link about libertarians and bears that FatPhil found? It made my weekend.
[09:00:26] <aristarchus> OK, Kalishnakovs. Better?
[08:59:19] <c0lo> I keep in mind to restrict the details. That AK mention? That narrows it down.
[08:57:34] <aristarchus> Appreciated your go round with our local American idiot. Did not narrow down my surmise about which former Warsaw pact nation you originate from, but any one who can stand up to AK-47s has my respect.
[08:55:36] <systemd> ^ 03Ian Macdonald (New South Wales politician) - Wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org(New_South_Wales_politician) )
[08:55:35] <c0lo> A mining minister, though. Is it satisfactory enough? https://en.wikipedia.org(New_South_Wales_politician)#Criminal_charges_and_findings
[08:53:11] <c0lo> (not gonna happen this time)
[08:52:38] <systemd> ^ 03ICAC releases suppressed evidence that Gladys Berejiklian's relationship with Daryl Maguire began in 2014 - ABC News
[08:52:37] <c0lo> None for the moment. Just foreplay. https://www.abc.net.au
[08:48:42] <aristarchus> How many Auzzie PMs in jail?
[08:47:19] <c0lo> But of course! And I like it boring.
[08:47:02] <aristarchus> Always love good news about Montana. Always remember the time I spent with Louis Riel on the Sun River, back in the day.
[08:46:49] <c0lo> > "If you'd look in Australian politics, it's boring by comparison," Jadeja said.
[08:46:21] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Montana’s High-Stakes Senate Race - Flathead Beacon" (27 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:46:00] <systemd> Submitting "Montana’s High-Stakes Senate Race - Flathead Beacon"...
[08:45:58] <aristarchus> =submit https://flatheadbeacon.com
[08:43:20] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03New Book by Former Trump Aide Alleges Early Racist Comments" (42 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:42:58] <systemd> Submitting "New book by former Trump aide alleges early racist comments"...
[08:42:56] <aristarchus> =submit https://www.latimes.com
[08:42:19] <systemd> aristarchus, 04submit failed: Parse failed
[08:42:18] <aristarchus> =submit https://www.amazon.com
[08:41:36] <systemd> ^ 03RealClearPolitics - Betting Odds - 2020 U.S. President
[08:41:36] <c0lo> bets currently at 64-36 for Biden (down from 67-63 on Oct 11) https://www.realclearpolitics.com
[08:38:59] <systemd> ^ 03Wall Street's biggest banks are increasingly expecting a Biden-led blue wave as the election looms. Here's how they say you should position your portfolio. ( https://markets.businessinsider.com )
[08:38:57] <c0lo> https://www.businessinsider.com futures markets bet on blue wave (because biden => stimulus)
[08:37:51] <systemd> https://www.ncjrs.gov - satanic ritual abuse
[08:37:50] <aristarchus> =g chromas satanic ritual abuse
[08:35:08] <systemd> ^ 03Satanic ritual abuse" - Wikipedia
[08:35:07] <aristarchus> Those who have not gone through the 1918 Influenza pandemic, or the 1990's "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_ritual_abuse" may not recognize the template, but, you know, the past is prolouge, and those who do not remember their history, are condemned to be Trump supporters, and QAnon conspirators. Mumb's the word, eh?
[08:26:50] <aristarchus> If I could add to the sub, an Australian. Interesting. Is it the WalkAbout?
[08:26:09] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03He Went Down the QAnon Rabbit Hole for Two Years. Here's How He Got Out" (0 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:25:47] <systemd> Submitting "He went down the QAnon rabbit hole for two years. Here's how he got out"...( 1 modified urls; https://www.cnn.com )
[08:25:43] <aristarchus> =submit https://edition.cnn.com
[08:22:22] <aristarchus> Going down again, are we?
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[07:16:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Current State of Space Debris - https://sylnt.us - clean-up-after-yourselves
[06:35:19] <lld> wow that's gotta hurt
[06:35:13] <lld> >The New York Times interviewed itself in order to get to know us a little better.
[06:34:03] <chromas> Even Snopes knows about the Babylon Bee :)
[06:24:44] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Trump Shares Babylon Bee Article, Thousands Accept Jesus Into Their Hearts" (1 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[06:24:22] <systemd> Submitting "Trump Shares Babylon Bee Article, Thousands Accept Jesus Into Their Hearts"...
[06:24:21] <c0lo> =submit https://babylonbee.com
[06:13:07] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03What is the Babylon Bee? Trump Retweeted the Satirical Website" (10 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[06:12:45] <systemd> Submitting "What Is the Babylon Bee? Trump Retweeted the Satirical Website"...
[06:12:42] <c0lo> =submit the-involuntary-stable-clown-in-chief says: https://www.rollingstone.com
[05:59:22] <systemd> ^ 03Domino's Pizza Shares Plunge on Lower Profits But Analysts Optimistic on Outlook; Target Price $435
[05:59:20] <c0lo> Pizza shares: buy https://www.fxempire.com
[05:38:09] * chromas eats his pizza as a consolation
[05:38:03] <chromas> looks like I missed out on the herp a derp
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[05:30:29] <SedBot> <c0lo> Heh! ***systemd achieved sentience and takes time off***
[05:30:29] <c0lo> s/achived/achieved/
[05:29:58] <c0lo> Heh! ***systemd achived sentience and takes time off***
[05:28:41] <c0lo> =submit https://www.washingtonexaminer.com
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[05:07:31] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03The Real Goal of Misinformation Campaigns Focused on Black Voters" (29 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[05:07:09] <systemd> Submitting "The Real Goal of Misinformation Campaigns Focused on Black Voters"...
[05:07:07] <c0lo> =submit https://www.wyso.org Black voters in Ohio ... the goal often wasn’t so much to sway their votes as to ensure they wouldn’t vote at all... One of the most high-profile campaigns is “ More Than a Vote,” spearheaded by LeBron James and other athletes this summer. “We need you to join us to vote like our lives depend on it. Because they do,”
[04:58:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tab, Coca-Cola’s Diet-Soda Pioneer and a ’70s Icon, Is Going Away - https://sylnt.us - Martin-Seamus-"Marty"-McFly-Sr.-will-not-be-pleased
[04:48:45] <systemd> ^ 03As election nears, coronavirus is surging in key swing states
[04:48:44] <c0lo> https://www.oregonlive.com
[04:44:10] <systemd> ^ 03Democrats Don’t Need To Win Georgia, Iowa, Ohio Or Texas
[04:44:10] <c0lo> https://fivethirtyeight.com
[04:32:38] <c0lo> https://www.bbc.com
[04:32:08] <systemd> ^ 03At indoor Florida event, Trump urges seniors to shield themselves from Covid
[04:32:08] <c0lo> https://www.politico.com
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[04:25:46] <systemd> ^ 03Maryland House work group recommends ditching state’s Law Enforcement Officers’ Bill of Rights
[04:25:45] <c0lo> https://www.baltimoresun.com
[04:02:15] <guy_> There is no J for my PB&J sammich!
[04:01:54] <guy_> OH NOES!!!!
[03:51:31] <guy_> I erred, at least in part, there were two black guys in the mob - it's not clear that either of them assaulted the victim though
[03:50:06] <systemd> ^ 03The Wisconsin GOP's Trump problem - Wisconsin Examiner
[03:50:04] <c0lo> https://wisconsinexaminer.com
[03:50:03] <c0lo> "Meanwhile, a COVID-positive President Donald Trump is coming to Janesville on Saturday. To get tickets to Trump’s in-person rally — a last-ditch pitch to voters in our swing state — you had to sign a waiver releasing the campaign from liability if you get sick. Ugh."
[03:48:52] <guy_> Looking at the pics, it seems only privileged white people are beating this half-black mixed race dude
[03:48:06] <lld> and then proceeds to beat up the kids
[03:47:58] <lld> the SJW accuses you of being a nazi for bonus damage
[03:47:36] <lld> the southpark videogame showed this
[03:47:23] <lld> this is southpark tier
[03:47:22] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08Portland: Antifa Terrorists Accuse Biracial Videographer of Being Proud Boy - Then Beat Him, Stomp H" (18 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[03:47:00] <systemd> Submitting "Portland: Antifa Terrorists Accuse Biracial Videographer of Being Proud Boy - Then Beat Him, Stomp Him and Steal His Phone (VIDEO)"...
[03:46:59] <guy_> =submit https://www.thegatewaypundit.com
[03:43:00] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08Kenosha Protester Confesses He 'Fired Off a Warning Shot' Before Kyle Rittenhouse Returned Fire on T" (89 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[03:42:38] <systemd> Submitting "Kenosha protester confesses he 'fired off a warning shot' before Kyle Rittenhouse returned fire on three men"...
[03:42:37] <guy_> =submit https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com
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[03:39:01] <systemd> ^ 03✅ Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden’s campaign manager warned against trusting inflated n
[03:39:00] <guy_> https://www.youtube.com
[03:38:43] <systemd> ^ 03Latino voters have growing confidence in Biden on key issues, while confidence in Trump remains low
[03:38:42] <c0lo> https://www.pewresearch.org
[03:36:08] <systemd> ^ 03White Christians continue to favor Trump over Biden, but support has slipped
[03:36:08] <c0lo> https://www.pewresearch.org
[03:31:47] <systemd> ^ 03Ben Sasse, Who’s Served as Trump’s Footstool for Four Years, Now Has Bad Things to Say About Him
[03:31:45] <c0lo> “What the heck were any of us thinking, that selling a TV-obsessed, narcissistic individual to the American people was a good idea?” https://www.vanityfair.com
[03:31:27] <systemd> ^ 03US sailors helped Iran-flagged vessel in distress: coalition
[03:31:26] <guy_> https://www.rawstory.com
[03:28:17] <guy_> photogenic
[03:27:58] <systemd> ^ 03Bobcat wanders aisles of Dollar General store in Kentucky
[03:27:57] <guy_> https://www.upi.com
[03:27:48] <guy_> Kitty is not especially photogenetic - they caught him on a bad day
[03:24:19] <c0lo> ^ "U.S. District Judge J. Nicholas Ranjan, a Trump appointee, ruled that the campaign did not prove a serious threat of voter fraud."
[03:23:27] <c0lo> "A federal judge in Pittsburgh was right to rule against the lawsuit by President Donald Trump’s campaign challenging Pennsylvania’s rules for mail voting and poll watchers." https://www.phillytrib.com
[03:21:24] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Arctic Ocean Sediments Reveal Permafrost Thawing During Past Climate Warming" (9 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[03:21:03] <systemd> Submitting "Arctic Ocean sediments reveal permafrost thawing during past climate warming"...
[03:20:46] <guy_> =submit https://phys.org
[03:18:33] <systemd> ^ 03In this Pennsylvania town, racism 'was quiet.' Then Trump stoked fears of violence
[03:18:32] <c0lo> https://www.northjersey.com
[03:17:21] <systemd> ^ 03Governor Newsom Orders All Trees To Wear Masks To Prevent Spread Of Wildfires
[03:17:20] <guy_> https://babylonbee.com
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[03:04:55] <guy_> don't think that's a dupe
[03:04:17] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Elon Musk’s Vegas Loop Won’t Transport as Many People as Promised" (1 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[03:04:16] <guy_> wait - maybe ????
[03:03:56] <systemd> Submitting "Elon Musk’s Vegas loop won’t transport as many people as promised"...
[03:03:53] <guy_> =submit https://www.theverge.com
[03:00:24] <guy_> "The system is beautiful - it's the people"
[02:59:50] <systemd> ^ 03‘Time’ documents one family’s two-decade battle with incarceration
[02:59:49] <guy_> https://mashable.com
[02:55:40] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Trump Jokes He’ll Fire DeSantis If He Loses Florida. ‘I’ll Find a Way.’" (20 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:55:18] <systemd> Submitting "Trump jokes he’ll fire DeSantis if he loses Florida. ‘I’ll find a way.’"...
[02:55:17] <c0lo> =submit hahaonlyserious https://www.tampabay.com
[02:55:15] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Deep-sea Corals Reveal Secrets of Rapid Carbon Dioxide Increase as the Last Ice Age Ended" (21 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:54:53] <systemd> Submitting "Deep-sea corals reveal secrets of rapid carbon dioxide increase as the last ice age ended"...
[02:54:49] <guy_> =submit https://phys.org
[02:54:10] <Bytram_dewey> ==> lip readers go nutz
[02:53:51] <Bytram_dewey> Yeah, but now try to synchronize the mouth and the sounds
[02:53:19] <MrPlow> got http response code 404
[02:53:19] <c0lo> #submit great way to make friends https://www.forbes.com
[02:50:27] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03AI Localization Tool Claims to Translate Your Words in Your Voice" (7 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:50:26] <guy_> that one could be really creepy
[02:50:05] <systemd> Submitting "AI localization tool claims to translate your words in your voice"...
[02:50:03] <guy_> =submit https://www.engadget.com
[02:48:53] <Bytram_dewey> looks uncertain!
[02:48:29] <guy_> Can he grill a good berger?
[02:48:04] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Uncertainty principle - Wikipedia
[02:48:03] <Bytram_dewey> =g heisenberg's uncertainty principle
[02:47:34] * guy_ can't spell heisen
[02:47:33] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03FCC Head and Internet's Most Hated Man Ajit Pai Just Vowed to Kill First Amendment Rights Online" (21 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:47:21] <Bytram_dewey> Hmmm, does that make it a "Heisen-sub"?
[02:47:11] <systemd> Submitting "FCC Head and Internet's Most Hated Man Ajit Pai Just Vowed to Kill First Amendment Rights Online"...
[02:47:09] <guy_> =submit https://www.mintpressnews.com
[02:46:52] <guy_> here's a "danger Will Robinson" story
[02:46:39] <guy_> could be
[02:41:36] <Bytram_dewey> guy_: FYI: that last one looks familiar, may be a dupe
[02:41:02] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Popeye Would Approve: Spinach Could Hold Key to Renewable Fuel Cell Catalysts" (13 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:40:40] <systemd> Submitting "Popeye would approve: Spinach could hold key to renewable fuel cell catalysts"...
[02:40:35] <guy_> =submit https://arstechnica.com
[02:33:53] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Cosmonauts Patch Small Air Leak on International Space Station: Reports" (22 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:33:31] <systemd> Submitting "Cosmonauts patch small air leak on International Space Station: reports"...
[02:33:29] <guy_> =submit https://www.space.com
[02:28:10] <systemd> ^ 03A giant corpse flower is in bloom just in time for Halloween
[02:28:09] <guy_> https://mashable.com
[02:28:03] <guy_> turn your computer's olfactory reproduction circuit before viewing this video
[02:26:32] <Bytram_dewey> being banned in the United States and other countries, though the European Union considers them as safe."
[02:25:48] <Bytram_dewey> "Sodium cyclamate (sweetener code 952) is an artificial sweetener. It is 30–50 times sweeter than sucrose (table sugar), making it the least potent of the commercially used artificial sweeteners. It is often used with other artificial sweeteners, especially saccharin; the mixture of 10 parts cyclamate to 1 part saccharin is common and masks the off-tastes of both sweeteners.[1] It is less expensive than most sweeteners, including
[02:25:33] <Bytram_dewey> ==> "IUPAC name sodium N-cyclohexylsulfamate"
[02:24:27] * Bytram_dewey suspects the "cucle" part has to do with the chemical structure
[02:19:24] <guy_> "Me and my mate were cycling around downtown the other day."
[02:19:07] <guy_> You've got to admit that cyclamate sounds cool -
[02:18:28] * guy_ has stubbornly resisted trying the stevia in the pantry
[02:17:46] <Bytram_dewey> aka long-ago banned in the USA as a known cancer-causing agent
[02:17:09] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Sodium cyclamate - Wikipedia
[02:17:08] <Bytram_dewey> =g cyclamates
[02:16:59] * Bytram_dewey remembers being on a business trip to Austria in '97 and seeing sweeterner packets containing... cyclamates!
[02:11:10] <requerdanos> I make kool-aid with saccharine. yum.
[02:10:15] <guy_> nutrasweet was yuck, but a lot less yuck than sacharine
[02:09:55] <guy_> it never worked
[02:09:50] * guy_ thinks back on all the times someone tried to sneak sacharine into a menu
[02:07:56] <Bytram_dewey> afk, biab
[02:07:27] <Bender> karma - succinct: 1
[02:07:27] <Bytram_dewey> succinct++
[02:07:07] <guy_> sacharine cola basically
[02:06:14] <Bytram_dewey> If you crave a regular cola, and are trying to watch calories, it can become a replacement... with effort.
[02:06:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - BleedingTooth: Critical Kernel Bluetooth Vulnerability - https://sylnt.us - bloody-gums
[02:05:19] <Bytram_dewey> brown seltzer water with a metalic aftertaste
[02:04:39] <Bytram_dewey> It's in the story ;^)
[02:04:35] <AzumaHazuki> i've never had one. what does it taste like?
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[02:02:32] * guy_ tries to remember the last time he saw a Tab that wasn't covered in dust on the grocery shelf
[02:01:58] <requerdanos> I never see anybody drink it, really
[02:01:40] <guy_> Is anyone actually going to miss Tab when it's gone?
[02:01:26] * guy_ ponders one of life's important questions
[02:01:19] <systemd> https://www.amazon.com - How to Win Friends & Influence People: Dale Carnegie ...;
[02:01:18] <Bytram_dewey> =g "How to make friends and influence people"
[02:01:15] <Niggaz_fo_Trump> That's quite allright, I already know how to do that.
[02:00:59] <systemd> https://www.facebook.com - How to Make Firends and Influence People | Facebook
[02:00:58] <Bytram_dewey> =g "How to make firends and influence people"
[01:59:39] <guy_> You mean you have family and friends?
[01:59:34] <SedBot> <c0lo> As such the "too" in "I was stirring them up, too" is either superfluous or contradictory
[01:59:34] <c0lo> s/is superfluous\/contradictory/is either superfluous or contradictory/
[01:59:34] * AzumaHazuki blinks...this is like seeing Beavis give a civics lecture
[01:59:01] <Niggaz_fo_Trump> I'm seeing it tear apart families and decades-long friendships.
[01:58:46] <Niggaz_fo_Trump> Look man, this rona + election situation is bumming everyboy out, including me.
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[01:58:05] <c0lo> As such the "too" in "I was stirring them up, too" is superfluous/contradictory
[01:57:59] <requerdanos> well, sure, because trolling isn't a rational intellectual process
[01:56:50] <c0lo> "Trolling for the rational side" is an oxymoron
[01:56:05] <requerdanos> To be fair, I was stirring them up, too
[01:55:43] <c0lo> But again, @requerdanos "I am not much of a moderator, it seems" - the effort is appreciated by *some* of us.
[01:54:59] <guy_> ROFLMAO
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[01:54:36] <Niggaz_fo_Trump> I'll check it out now.
[01:54:03] <c0lo> @requerdanos "We were discussing prejudice against minority groups in an effort to lift our hearts and consciences." -> * guy_ shrugs
[01:53:26] <guy_> niggas_fo_trump could amuse himself with the channel log going back about 1 1/2 hours
[01:52:23] <guy_> Or, I should say, you are a consistent problem
[01:52:21] <requerdanos> I am not sure it's as simple at that. What guy said.
[01:52:11] <guy_> No, EF, you weren't the problem, you just had suckass timing LOL
[01:51:44] <Niggaz_fo_Trump> If I'm the problem here, then ban me until after the election and let everybody know I was totally fine with that.
[01:51:20] <requerdanos> thanks for your work in that direction, oh finger lifter.
[01:50:45] * Bytram_dewey would much rather go back to bed, but is struggling (instead) to push out stories -- subs queue is, umm, "non-ideal"
[01:50:38] <AzumaHazuki> right, and just sort of...dangle it out there in the water to see what bites
[01:49:30] <Niggaz_fo_Trump> Azuma, trolling is from "trawling," where you move at a slow speed to get the bait moving
[01:49:29] <guy_> Awww, the funny looking kid has been busy . . .
[01:46:59] <requerdanos> it's at least half and half, yeah
[01:46:46] <AzumaHazuki> no it doesn't?
[01:46:40] <Bytram_dewey> bad-mouthing someone tends to say more about the speaker than anything converyed about the target
[01:46:28] <AzumaHazuki> what part of "trolls are not here for good-faith discussion" doesn't make sense? :/
[01:45:59] <Bytram_dewey> AzumaHazuki: please try and stick to the discussion and not the discusees
[01:45:58] <AzumaHazuki> yeah, people like you...ambulatory skidmarks on the underpants of society
[01:45:21] * guy_ hears "shitstains"
[01:45:20] <requerdanos> I think there will be a big group of people in a much worse mood after the election, to be honest
[01:45:15] <AzumaHazuki> remember "troll" originates from a form of bait-fishing
[01:45:04] <AzumaHazuki> that in itself is "lulz" for them
[01:44:56] <AzumaHazuki> yes, which is what shitstains like runaway and Uzzard count on
[01:44:38] <requerdanos> yeah, but the honorable person will assume good faith
[01:44:37] <Niggaz_fo_Trump> I have a feeling that everybody will be in a better mood after our election.
[01:44:37] <guy_> and yet - there are kernels of truth spoken by the crazy one
[01:44:12] <AzumaHazuki> ...bytram, he's not arguing in good faith. that is pretty much the definition of "troll"
[01:43:46] <Bytram_dewey> Niggaz_fo_Trump: that argument does not hold much weight
[01:43:35] <requerdanos> and some--Runaway here for instance--talk to him as if he were sane and spouting truth
[01:43:31] <guy_> Well he does make a point - it's privileged white people doing most of the rioting
[01:43:13] <AzumaHazuki> that ship sailed, oh, half a decade ago
[01:42:51] <AzumaHazuki> you're not good at this "trolling for a cause" thing. not just because you've long since ruined your brand and credibility either
[01:42:21] <Niggaz_fo_Trump> "The Privileged" being the subject of a lot of my recent posts.
[01:42:08] <Niggaz_fo_Trump> Well, "The Privileged" are not the ones who should be the arbiters of racial justice.
[01:42:07] <guy_> The last 3 years have brought it to critical point
[01:41:48] <guy_> Uhhhhh, EF, it has taken about ten years for things to percolate to the current level
[01:41:44] <requerdanos> EF is a troll, sure, but what I was pointing out earlier is that sometimes, some of the "non-troll" regulars sound a lot like his spiel of jews-chinks-mexicans-niggers
[01:41:13] <Niggaz_fo_Trump> Well, Azuma, until "certain people" decided to rip the scab off of race relations, this wasn't an issue in public on either side until early this year.
[01:40:50] <AzumaHazuki> might there possibly be a lesson you could leaAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA fuck
[01:40:27] <AzumaHazuki> doesn't that suck, Eth? people assuming you're dangerous or whatever just because of what you look like? hmmmm
[01:40:17] * guy_ doesn't smile at anyone - just smiles to himself
[01:39:53] <Bytram_dewey> "being proud" is one things -- the actions taken are another
[01:39:46] <Niggaz_fo_Trump> Nowadays I'M the nigger. I smile at black people and get dirty looks
[01:39:20] <Niggaz_fo_Trump> We can't be skeptical of big business without being "paranoid loons"
[01:39:13] <AzumaHazuki> requerdanos: Eth is a troll. responding to him is useless. he's a premier example of write-only memory besides =P
[01:39:01] <Niggaz_fo_Trump> We can't be proud of our country without being called "nazis"
[01:38:56] <requerdanos> I know, you ask for civility, and zumi immediately attacks poor e-f
[01:38:44] <requerdanos> see, I'm against that trashing of property thing.
[01:38:35] <Niggaz_fo_Trump> we can't have safe neighborhoods without bolsheviks constantly attempting to have us robbed and dead
[01:38:34] <Bytram_dewey> there is a difference between "an expectation" and "a request"
[01:38:31] <guy_> People like you? I'm a minority of one, you have people like you
[01:38:21] <AzumaHazuki> yeah, you're a minority of one and thank fuck for that
[01:38:17] <Niggaz_fo_Trump> We can't put signs up without having our property trashed
[01:38:03] <Niggaz_fo_Trump> People like me are the ones in the minority.
[01:37:53] <requerdanos> sure we were.
[01:37:28] <AzumaHazuki> requerdanos: "we?" uh...
[01:37:10] <guy_> Did someone mention a train wreck? ROFLMAO
[01:36:43] * guy_ shrugs
[01:36:41] <requerdanos> We were discussing prejudice against minority groups in an effort to lift our hearts and consciences.
[01:36:05] <AzumaHazuki> expecting civility out of him is a little like...well, like expecting integrity out of the GOP
[01:35:58] <Niggaz_fo_Trump> Why is this a bad time for this "shit"? I'm only here to poke fun at clown world, not fling poo at the rest of you
[01:35:45] <AzumaHazuki> Uh, this is Eth we're talking about. You know, SN's premier purveyor of homebrewed jenkem? "Not just the maker, he's also the #1 customer?"
[01:35:22] <Niggaz_fo_Trump> "After Patterson expressed concerns at this week’s meeting, the board will also review potential student disparities stemming from its zero-tolerance disciplinary policy on cheating in the coming weeks."
[01:35:02] <Bytram_dewey> please keep it civil -- I'd be happy to explain the word, if needed
[01:34:36] <Niggaz_fo_Trump> Hello Fellas
[01:34:34] <AzumaHazuki> i am pretty sure you need to use the rack for that
[01:34:27] <Bytram_dewey> Niggaz_fo_Trump: hello EF
[01:34:26] <AzumaHazuki> that's...stretching a term to the point it screams
[01:34:21] <guy_> just so you know this IS a bad time for that shit
[01:34:12] <AzumaHazuki> "gentleman"
[01:34:09] <guy_> hello EF
[01:34:02] <guy_> *yawn*
[01:33:58] <Niggaz_fo_Trump> "Another big change, teachers can no longer consider non-material factors when grading. Things like turning work in on time and classroom behavior will now instead count towards a student's citizenship grade, not their academic grade."
[01:33:17] <requerdanos> recurring theme, see?
[01:33:14] <Niggaz_fo_Trump> "“This is part of our honest reckoning as a school district,” says SDUSD Vice President Richard Barrera. “If we’re actually going to be an anti-racist school district, we have to confront practices like this that have gone on for years and years.”"
[01:32:54] <Niggaz_fo_Trump> "Students will no longer be graded based on a yearly average, or on how late they turn in assignments. "
[01:32:51] <requerdanos> ah, here's the gentleman I was referring to earlier.
[01:32:45] <Niggaz_fo_Trump> HAHAHAHAHAHA
[01:32:42] <systemd> ^ 03San Diego Unified School District Changes Grading System to ‘Combat Racism'
[01:32:41] <Niggaz_fo_Trump> https://www.nbcsandiego.com
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[01:31:21] * guy_ listens to dear wife nattering about a coffee thief
[01:30:59] <requerdanos> along with businesses started this year such as the xfl
[01:30:40] <requerdanos> corona-casualty-land, I suppose
[01:30:30] <systemd> https://www.wsj.com - Tab, Coca-Cola's Diet-Soda Pioneer and a '70s Icon, Is Going Away ...
[01:30:29] <Bytram_dewey> =g "Tab, Coca-Cola’s Diet-Soda Pioneer and a ’70s Icon, Is Going Away"
[01:30:09] <Bytram_dewey> bah
[01:29:55] <systemd> ^ 03Attention Required! ( https://archive.is )
[01:29:53] <Bytram_dewey> whereto? https://archive.is
[01:29:14] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5372
[01:29:14] <guy_> coffee++
[01:29:10] * guy_ wanders to the kitchen to brew coffee
[01:28:18] <Bytram_dewey> that was NOT a good example
[01:28:15] * guy_ says OK Bytram
[01:28:07] <requerdanos> I am not much of a moderator, it seems
[01:27:51] <AzumaHazuki> fucking hell this is insulting. you actually think everyone else is as stupid as you. what kind of solipsistic shitpile do you have for a mind?
[01:27:48] <Bytram_dewey> How about ignoring the personal attacks (however enjoyable they may seem) and try discussion of issues
[01:27:20] <guy_> Wasn't me who posted 92 percentile in an effort to intimidate the lesser beings
[01:27:00] <AzumaHazuki> you know i've got you dead to rights
[01:26:52] <AzumaHazuki> oh yeah, and these puerile little insults
[01:26:42] <guy_> Whatever you say Miss 92nd Percentile
[01:26:41] <requerdanos> maybe I'm wrong, wouldn't be the first time, i hope neither the last.
[01:26:39] <AzumaHazuki> and then when called out on it, you pull this "butbutbut hAAAAAAAaaaAAAaTTTttEeeeEE!" bullshit. which is both irrelevant and false
[01:26:17] <guy_> I do not harbor that hatred
[01:26:14] <AzumaHazuki> the worst part of that is you implicitly assume everyone else is as stupid as you or stupider
[01:26:11] <guy_> that's your hatred making you hear the barely concealed racist hatred
[01:25:58] <AzumaHazuki> and then you think that because you don't directly drop the N-bomb you're not actually racist
[01:25:56] <requerdanos> I am not sure looking ever back to see "who started it!" is as productive as answering "what is this fascination with racism"
[01:25:45] <AzumaHazuki> every single goddamn time you say something even remotely involving ethnicity or race it's seething with barely-concealed mediocre white Boomer resentment, runaway
[01:25:23] <requerdanos> perhaps it was apk, perhaps the gnaa troll(s), perhaps e-f, perhaps the less-extreme but still "out there" regular site users.
[01:25:11] <guy_> yes ^ this
[01:24:56] <AzumaHazuki> ^ this
[01:24:44] <requerdanos> it's a recurring theme.
[01:24:32] <guy_> who started off with the double g word?
[01:24:14] <AzumaHazuki> you're so full of shit they could use you to blow up Beirut again, runaway
[01:24:06] * guy_ expects dogs to hear dogwhistles
[01:24:03] <requerdanos> she said you won't admit the relation between the things in question; we have established that as "true"
[01:23:49] <AzumaHazuki> s/made the distinction racial/pointed out the dogwhistle/
[01:23:31] <guy_> it was only 'Zumi who made the distinction racial
[01:23:11] <requerdanos> I also personally understand that many different people groups have representatives living in ghettos.
[01:23:10] <guy_> nothing like driving into a trailer park and seeing a boat trailer with a bunch of diving gear laid out
[01:22:48] <guy_> divers neighbors too
[01:22:26] <guy_> additionally, I've already made it abundantly clear that ghettos aren't exclusive to black peole
[01:22:13] <requerdanos> okay. I personally understand that many different people groups have representatives living in trailer parks. I have lived in them myself, with diverse neighbors.
[01:21:35] <guy_> I mean that trailer parks aren't exclusive to white people
[01:21:05] <requerdanos> Do you mean that trailer parks are limited only to black and white people, or that black and white people are among the people groups represented?
[01:21:03] * guy_ expects the dogs to hear the dog whistle
[01:20:38] <systemd> https://backtothefuture.fandom.com - Tab | Futurepedia | Fandom
[01:20:37] <Bytram_dewey> =g "Back to the future" "give me a Tab
[01:20:34] <AzumaHazuki> every time that jackass opens his mouth on racial issues, every dog in a 10 mile radius starts barking
[01:20:33] <guy_> BTW, we do all realize that trailer parks have black and white people in them?
[01:20:01] <requerdanos> there are pretty ghettos and ugly trailer parks; your grass-and-trees theory isn't all that helpful.
[01:19:57] <guy_> The statement that I differentiate between a city ghetto and a trailer park is true
[01:19:29] <requerdanos> so the statement that you won't admit the relation between the things in question is a true one.
[01:18:59] <guy_> ghettos not so much
[01:18:53] <guy_> trailer parks have grasses and trees and maybe some brooks and streams around them
[01:18:51] <AzumaHazuki> dude...every single post you make about race is loaded with dogwhistles so loud the entire neighborhood starts barking. occasionally you fuck up and don't cover up enough, like that post i quited, and your mask slips
[01:18:41] <Bytram_dewey> Friend of winnie the poo? T I double-G er!
[01:18:25] <requerdanos> Sigh. So do you, in fact, "admit" that a trailer park is an instance of class ghetto?
[01:18:04] <guy_> it all starts right there bytram
[01:17:44] <guy_> [10/16/2019:29:47] <AzumaHazuki> yeah but he won't admit that because then he'd be no different from...well, from the sort of people he refers to with a double-G
[01:17:43] <Bender> karma - legcramps: -17
[01:17:43] <Bytram_dewey> legcramps--
[01:17:24] <Bytram_dewey> "Say whatg you mean, mean what you say, but don't say it mean."
[01:16:28] <AzumaHazuki> yeah, yeah, you like to quote Dr. King selectively, we all know it. oldest trick in the mid-20th-century racist handbook
[01:16:11] <requerdanos> hi bytram :)
[01:15:58] <guy_> Read the REST of that post - NO ONE should be second or third rate citizens
[01:15:56] * Bytram_dewey wakes from his nap to the sounds of kickering children
[01:15:26] <AzumaHazuki> "And, I, for one, am not willing that my grandchildren should be cast into some third-rate citizen role, to make those brown or black people happy." This is textbook "white genocide" paranoia. Jesus.
[01:14:38] <AzumaHazuki> no need to judge, exactly. just...well, read it. opinions will form
[01:14:32] <guy_> LOL
[01:14:24] <requerdanos> so now I am seen as a judge. sorry, back to letting the train wreck play itself out.
[01:13:57] <guy_> context is everything
[01:13:56] <AzumaHazuki> requerdanos: well, just read that quoted post of his, and judge between what he's saying and what i'm saying
[01:13:36] <guy_> in that post she refers to, she can't undertand, so she ASSumes a lot of shit
[01:13:16] <guy_> in this conversation she puts words in my mouth
[01:13:03] <AzumaHazuki> :D exactly
[01:12:53] <requerdanos> you know, I know i should just let the train wreck play itself out, but I gotta interject--which is it? She is putting the words into your mouth, or they are already your words and she just doesn't understand them? Can't have it both ways
[01:12:41] <guy_> if/when a race war happens, do you think you're going to be magically black or something?
[01:12:22] <AzumaHazuki> as does anyone else who reads it
[01:12:15] <AzumaHazuki> oh i think i understood it plenty well :)
[01:12:04] <guy_> Awwwwwww, one more time 'Zumi goes back to a post that she can't even understand
[01:11:47] <AzumaHazuki> runaway, you remind me a lot of Rudy Giuliani
[01:11:28] <guy_> yep, public logs
[01:11:28] <systemd> ^ 03Journal of Azuma Hazuki (5086)
[01:11:23] <AzumaHazuki> requerdanos (and anyone else interested): https://soylentnews.org this is that journal i meant. look at that big blockquote
[01:11:20] <requerdanos> careful, the logs are public
[01:11:10] <guy_> yep, it's in the logs
[01:10:53] <AzumaHazuki> nope :)
[01:10:49] <guy_> you put words in my mouth is what you mean
[01:10:37] <guy_> but you're on a roll
[01:10:35] <AzumaHazuki> all i did here was put into words what we can all see you're doing
[01:10:31] <requerdanos> how do you guys think the town halls went
[01:10:23] <AzumaHazuki> why? I think i've explained it pretty well
[01:10:07] <guy_> keep going
[01:09:16] <AzumaHazuki> childish magical thinking
[01:09:07] <AzumaHazuki> "whaa, whaaaa, you hate meeeee! so hateful! (so anything you say is wrong and i am absolved of all guilt for the things you're pointing out i did)"
[01:09:01] <guy_> hey bytram
[01:08:53] <guy_> lol
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[01:08:35] <guy_> scroll up and see who started attacking whom first
[01:08:27] <AzumaHazuki> look at the change in what he's saying and what he's being reduced to
[01:08:11] <requerdanos> you two bicker?
[01:08:09] <guy_> <AzumaHazuki> you don't r8 my h8, m8
[01:08:05] <guy_> tell me about 8 year old
[01:07:54] <AzumaHazuki> requerdanos: you are seeing this in real time. look at what happens when he's cornered
[01:07:37] <AzumaHazuki> i've reduced you to the level of a 7 year old in 30 secons
[01:07:31] <guy_> awwwww, isn't that cute?
[01:07:25] <AzumaHazuki> LOL, fucking really? :D
[01:07:17] <guy_> thank you for admitting that it is just truth - you hate
[01:07:16] <AzumaHazuki> you don't r8 my h8, m8
[01:07:02] <AzumaHazuki> just truth :)
[01:06:53] <guy_> pure hatred
[01:06:43] <guy_> run at the mouth some more
[01:06:30] <AzumaHazuki> your credibility died ages ago. you don't know when to shut the fuck up, and you forget the internet has a long memory
[01:06:23] <guy_> doesn't have to work
[01:06:12] <AzumaHazuki> sorry runaway, but this schtick isn't working :)
[01:06:08] <guy_> you're so full of shit your eyes are brown
[01:05:54] <guy_> now that you're triggered, how do you feel?
[01:05:51] <AzumaHazuki> taken as a whole, your post history shows clear evidence of deep-seated racism. do i need to link that journal entry of mine where i quote your disasturbation over a potential civil war and your willingness to sacrifice millions of lives so your "grandkids won't be slaves to make brown and black people happy?"
[01:05:42] <guy_> you started this because you wanted to be triggered 'Zumi
[01:05:08] <guy_> remember the term pogroms?
[01:04:50] <guy_> context? There were ghettos long before the United States existes
[01:04:36] <AzumaHazuki> stop insulting our intelligence
[01:04:30] <AzumaHazuki> dude...context. what you say has very obvious undertones
[01:04:19] <guy_> no one
[01:04:08] <guy_> no one made any mention of race or color until that entry by 'Zumi
[01:03:49] <c0lo> @guy_ not 'Zumi's fault that you actually sound as a racist. You keep with them, you get infected by them.
[01:03:48] <AzumaHazuki> indeed...your insistence that "trailer park" isn't "ghetto" is exactly that
[01:03:21] <guy_> [10/16/2019:29:47] <AzumaHazuki> yeah but he won't admit that because then he'd be no different from...well, from the sort of people he refers to with a double-G
[01:03:16] <requerdanos> It's just that some of the regulars are not all that distinguishable from said ethanol-fueled
[01:03:05] <AzumaHazuki> your credibility's shot to shit. random ACs on the forum are starting to dismiss you out of hand
[01:02:17] <SedBot> <c0lo> Tenous connection always happens at US election time. How else you don't run out of mud to slink?
[01:02:17] <c0lo> s/run of/run out of/
[01:02:13] <AzumaHazuki> if you think this cheap, flaking layer of feigned civility masks the utter rottenness under the surface, runaway, you're delusional. quit insulting our intelligence.
[01:02:12] <guy_> so, once again, 'Zumi attacks me and tries to make it sound like I'm a racist
[01:01:52] <c0lo> Tenous connection always happens at US election time. How else you don't run of mud to slink?
[01:01:33] <AzumaHazuki> you, fuckstick. you not-said it so loud it was like a siren
[01:01:33] <requerdanos> for the context of my current inquiries, it was ethanol-fueled, yesterday
[01:01:32] * guy_ believes it was 'Zumi
[01:01:13] * guy_ tries to figure out who introduced the double g word into this channel
[01:01:09] <AzumaHazuki> requerdanos: runaway is,among his other failings, deeply racist, and is constantly bringing them up so he can show how not-racist he is and how loudly he does not say "nigger"
[01:00:52] * guy_ scrolls up
[00:59:02] <c0lo> @guy_ If there is an iPOC, why do you have the compulsion to spew that non-sense? (not even about POC)
[00:58:52] <requerdanos> I think I might, might not be seeing patterns where connections don't exist or are tenuous
[00:57:46] <c0lo> The moment the current context is gone, the fascination stops. Until next time, that is.
[00:57:18] <guy_> isn't there an app for that? iPOC
[00:56:37] <c0lo> @requerdanos black people it's a key demographic for electoral purposes. Additionally, they become fed up about how they are treated.
[00:54:34] <guy_> If anyone is wondering, I think it's a gray owl
[00:53:47] <systemd> ^ 03Owl boards helicopter fighting California wildfire
[00:53:46] <guy_> https://www.upi.com
[00:53:41] <guy_> now this is awesome people
[00:51:41] <requerdanos> what the heck is the fascination with black people in this channel
[00:50:18] <systemd> ^ 03WOW! Fact Checkers Rule Joe Biden Did Not Call Young Black Men "Super Predators" - He Called Young Black Men "Predators - Beyond the Pale - Antisocial and Sociopaths"
[00:50:17] <guy_> https://www.thegatewaypundit.com
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[00:48:34] <c0lo> "trailer park is literally and figuratively ghetto" says the girl who dreams of making her home from containers (large grin)
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[00:33:47] <nutherguy> That stupid television series from years ago - "in your neighborhood the grass is never green"
[00:32:47] <AzumaHazuki> the last time i heard something go "butbutbutbutbutbut" so much, so loudly, and so constantly was when my neighbor was trying to start his old lawnmower
[00:32:47] <nutherguy> "capital hill baptist church"
[00:32:00] <systemd> ^ 03Federal Court Rebukes D.C. Mayor's Double-Standard On Church Services And BLM Protests
[00:31:59] <nutherguy> https://www.zerohedge.com
[00:31:36] <nutherguy> how come no one condemned that privileged white dude for using that word?
[00:31:17] <nutherguy> "Shoot me nigga!"
[00:30:53] <AzumaHazuki> nope. 2 Gs in a row, in one word
[00:30:22] <requerdanos> "good guys"?
[00:29:47] <AzumaHazuki> yeah but he won't admit that because then he'd be no different from...well, from the sort of people he refers to with a double-G
[00:28:52] <requerdanos> trailer park is literally and figuratively ghetto
[00:27:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US Lockdowns Cut Personal Noise Exposure by Nearly Half, Study Finds - https://sylnt.us - Shhhhh!
[00:27:09] <AzumaHazuki> of course you would, sweetie :)
[00:26:21] * nutherguy would differ
[00:25:12] <AzumaHazuki> trailer park is ghetto, honey
[00:24:49] <nutherguy> dude got rapped on the head too many times
[00:24:28] <systemd> ^ 03Rapper who boasted about unemployment fraud scheme arrested
[00:24:27] <nutherguy> https://www.washingtontimes.com
[00:24:14] <nutherguy> Nahhhh, seems more trailer park to me
[00:21:59] <AzumaHazuki> ...even for me that's ghetto
[00:20:13] <nutherguy> you can make a nice bedframe with a half dozen milk crates
[00:18:54] * AzumaHazuki is going to see about getting wood^W lumber at home depot and building a simple frame again
[00:18:37] <AzumaHazuki> got a new mattress coming tuesday :) i got it for $216 including taxes. it's nothing fancy but it's better than this crap futon
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