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[00:00:13] <AzumaHazuki> humans are not rational sometimes. some of them almost never
[00:00:29] <AzumaHazuki> this whole thing is a perfect case of "stupid games," and i wonder what the prize will be
[00:00:34] <Soycow_Lover> the first three letters of rational are RAT
[00:00:43] <RandomFactor> But I don't go to sporting events either (well, no one does currently, but you get what I mean.)
[00:01:38] <Soycow_Lover> lol, "Twelve more years!"
[00:01:49] <RandomFactor> That's 'bait'
[00:02:41] <RandomFactor> https://media2.giphy.com
[00:03:37] <Soycow_Lover> huh - I just realized something - no candles
[00:03:47] * RandomFactor ponders
[00:03:51] <Soycow_Lover> do you have to die first before you get a candle light vigil?
[00:04:03] <RandomFactor> hmmm
[00:04:14] <RandomFactor> I don't think so
[00:04:32] <RandomFactor> i think you do those as a get well sort of thing or expression of hope for things improving
[00:04:42] * Soycow_Lover doesn't have votive candles anyway - just big fat emergency lighting candles
[00:06:26] <RandomFactor> To raise awareness for a disease or illness
[00:06:26] <RandomFactor> To draw media attention to a cause or injustice
[00:06:26] <RandomFactor> To mark a historic or otherwise important anniversary
[00:06:26] <RandomFactor> To show support for families of missing children
[00:06:26] <RandomFactor> To remember fallen soldiers
[00:06:27] <RandomFactor> To pay tribute to the deceased
[00:06:40] <RandomFactor> Basically anything you want to support or draw attention to
[00:07:09] <requerdanos> The President seems to enjoy attention, so it might fit, I guess
[00:07:23] <AzumaHazuki> sympathy to the virus for catching such a nasty case of orange dropsy
[00:07:25] <RandomFactor> I wonder if keeping the sick person from sleeping is the right move
[00:07:49] <Soycow_Lover> I doubt very much the prez can hear anything outside
[00:08:00] <requerdanos> yeah he's probably watching it on tv
[00:08:07] <RandomFactor> good point
[00:08:20] <Soycow_Lover> dinky little county hospital I go to would muffle anything I'm seeing
[00:14:55] <Soycow_Lover> I thought I saw some kid earlier - just saw three very short people
[00:15:11] <RandomFactor> who is 'CeCe'?
[00:15:24] <Soycow_Lover> no idear
[00:15:44] <Soycow_Lover> some dude in rainbow cape and T
[00:16:12] <Soycow_Lover> Oh, the cape is a Trump flag
[00:16:30] <Soycow_Lover> Tshirt definitely said "gays something something"
[00:17:38] <RandomFactor> i saw that LQB.... Gays .. Tru.. I assumed it was something about Gays for Trump
[00:19:42] <RandomFactor> They need to repoint the camera at least
[00:20:04] <Soycow_Lover> Is it a permanent street view cam or something?
[00:20:09] <RandomFactor> Might be
[00:20:12] <Soycow_Lover> initially thought it was just someone's camera
[00:22:22] <requerdanos> it refocused when i was watching it half hour or so ago from the street to focus on a couple people standing there with flags
[00:22:42] <RandomFactor> Sounds like they're cleared the street
[00:23:09] <Soycow_Lover> Yeah, all cleared, I heard something like "500 yards" from one of the cops
[00:23:52] <Soycow_Lover> one woman left a bag near the entrance, they told her she can't get it now
[00:24:03] <Soycow_Lover> another guy wants to get his car, they said not now
[00:24:10] <RandomFactor> saw the guy asking about his car
[00:24:53] <Soycow_Lover> well, I was getting bored anyway, I'm closing window now
[00:25:14] <RandomFactor> I'm kinda curious what's going to happen, but no guarantee i'll get it from watching the window
[00:26:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - For Subway, a Ruling Not So Sweet -- Irish Court Says its Bread Isn't Bread - https://sylnt.us - man-cannot-live-on-bread^W-sweets-alone
[00:33:17] <RandomFactor> FYI - They moved them up the road. New link here: https://www.breitbart.com
[00:33:17] <systemd> ^ 03Watch Live: Trump Supporters Gather at Walter Reed Medical Center for Prayer Rally
[00:34:04] <requerdanos> Here's something just as interesting, I think, https://www.youtube.com
[00:34:05] <systemd> ^ 0310 Hours of Paint Drying
[00:34:23] <RandomFactor> I'll watch that later tonight
[01:01:26] <Soycow_Lover> AH-HA!!! That dude in the gay T-shirt - it says "lotsa gays back Trump"
[01:01:44] <Soycow_Lover> https://media.breitbart.com
[01:22:53] <c0lo> Disappointed. Whas expecting lotsa gay sticking it into Trump's back.
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[02:56:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Astronomers Detect Earth-Sized Rogue Planet - https://sylnt.us - All-Alone-in-the-Dark
[03:06:07] <guy_> Earth sized planet detects rogue astronomers
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[03:07:34] <lld> the space force launching into space to capture rogue astronomers
[03:07:46] <lld> I'd watch a michael bay movie about this
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[03:18:24] <With_Yooz_You_Looz> Ahh, I know know why Trump is faking the Rona
[03:18:53] <With_Yooz_You_Looz> to distract from the house of reps bill allowing Israel veto power over our arms sales in a direct violation of our sovereignty.
[03:19:19] <With_Yooz_You_Looz> https://christiansfortruth.com
[03:19:20] <systemd> ^ 03New Law To Give Israel Veto Power Over All U.S. Arms Sales In The Middle East
[03:19:46] <With_Yooz_You_Looz> Overplay that hand like never before, Yooz.
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[03:31:16] <With_Yooz_You_Looz> Gentlemen, I propose a new slur: "Spadenose"
[03:31:54] <With_Yooz_You_Looz> Take a spade as you would see in a suit of cards. Round out the pointy tip, then invert it. What you have is the legendary noseberg nose
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[05:17:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - U.S. Army Releases its First Digital UH-60V Helicopter - https://sylnt.us - glass-cockpit
[05:49:46] <guy_> =submit https://primepatriot.com
[05:49:58] <systemd> Submitting "Media ‘Twists’ President’s Support for LGBTQ Community"...
[05:50:05] <guy_> That is the guy we noted in the live feed from Walter Reed
[05:50:20] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Media ‘Twists’ President’s Support for LGBTQ Community" (15 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[07:29:28] <chromas> Time to add another filter to my feed I guess
[07:29:35] <chromas> "Trump Trump Trump" all day long
[07:36:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Facebook Sues Two Companies Engaged in Data Scraping Operations - https://sylnt.us - eliminating-the-competition?
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[07:47:56] <With_Yooz_You_Looz> https://www.carlorossi.com
[07:47:57] <systemd> ^ 03Home
[07:47:59] <With_Yooz_You_Looz> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[07:48:15] <With_Yooz_You_Looz> Goddamn is that one comfortable...and appropriate! Landing page.
[07:49:27] <With_Yooz_You_Looz> You can almost hear the laughter amidst the NFL commentators in the background and the smells of good weed rolled with wine blunt-wraps being lit.
[07:50:11] <With_Yooz_You_Looz> Appropriately funky.
[07:51:36] <With_Yooz_You_Looz> With all the negativity in the world, I'm glad Carlo and his brother Vafanculo Rossi could bring us all together with the wide reach of his cheap but delicious wine.
[07:56:40] <chromas> I can't wait for the marker eyebrow trend to be over
[07:57:13] <With_Yooz_You_Looz> Food is brought upstairs from Roscoe's, the tastiest fried chicken mixes with the pungent blunt air as cigarettes are lit out on the balcony
[07:58:10] <With_Yooz_You_Looz> The fresh boquet of blunt wraps, Rossi, and tobacco swirls the air as if responding to the bass lines of the rap music being played over the Charger game.
[07:58:56] <With_Yooz_You_Looz> One time a white boy came to one of our parties with a decanter.
[07:59:24] <With_Yooz_You_Looz> He stammered on about its benefits like an iPhone apologist while we all laughed at his ass nonstop.
[08:01:36] <With_Yooz_You_Looz> I won't tell you what happened next, but for Pete's sake, white-boys...can you leave the decanter at home next time?
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[10:06:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - ‘Never Shoot With a Wonky Pea!’: Meet the Alternative World Champions - https://sylnt.us - safety's-on-Old-Betsy
[11:56:58] <FatPhil> Trump: the chaos candidate ~ had a prosthetic cunt made (anagram)
[11:57:14] <FatPhil> = catastrophic methane dud
[12:28:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Color Blindness - https://sylnt.us - reddish-and-blueish
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[14:29:08] <requerdanos> As a non-finger-lifter, I would never complain about what makes it to the front page. So I will just say that I found the color blindness blog post a fascinating, timeless read (I read the article to the end).
[14:42:27] <Bytram> requerdanos: So glad you liked it! Same here! Btw...
[14:42:38] <Bytram> =g rob pike unix
[14:42:39] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Rob Pike - Wikipedia
[14:43:03] <Bytram> requerdanos: ^^^ If I am not mistaken, that is who wrote it.
[14:43:45] <requerdanos> The edge detecting weakness was something I had never thought about.
[14:43:58] <requerdanos> When's the spacex military GPS launch going to happen?
[14:45:37] <Bytram> no idea, sry. gtg phone call
[14:45:42] <requerdanos> peace
[14:46:00] <Bytram> =yt spacex GPS live launch
[14:46:01] <systemd> https://youtube.com - WATCH: SpaceX Falcon 9 Launch of advanced GPS satellite for US Space Force SCRUBBED (00; 99,403 views; 👍2,492 👎236)
[14:46:33] <Bytram> requerdanos: wait, check on ars technica... I think I saw an article there
[14:46:41] <requerdanos> kthx
[14:46:42] <Bytram> realy gtg; laters
[14:47:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Researchers Unveil Sensor that Rapidly Detects COVID-19 Infection - https://sylnt.us
[14:47:43] <requerdanos> https://arstechnica.com
[14:47:44] <systemd> ^ 03After two scrubs, Elon Musk says he will visit SpaceX launch sites in Florida
[14:49:22] <requerdanos> tl; dr Monday, October 5, at 7:46am EDT (11:46 UTC).
[15:01:01] <Bytram> got it, tx!
[15:53:47] <RandomFactor> Another press conference on the president's health. Another session of doing great on this, doing great on that, doing great on the other thing and the press responding with 'can you give us ANYTHING?'
[15:54:28] <requerdanos> seemed pretty candid and informative to me.
[15:54:34] <RandomFactor> yep
[15:54:55] <requerdanos> "we wanted to put him on oxygen and he told us where to get off" "turned out he was right"
[15:55:48] <RandomFactor> Of course listening to doctors always sounds a bit bad even if things are good
[15:57:15] <requerdanos> I was a little surprised they intend to release the president tomorrow, but am encouraged by it and wish him the best health.
[15:58:17] <RandomFactor> I wonder how much of that is Trump saying get him the hell back to the white house attempting not to show weakness
[15:59:10] <requerdanos> Regardless of how much of that, sounds like the doctors seem to agree I guess
[16:00:14] <RandomFactor> nod, that definitely didn't come across as being overly concerned based on what they are seeing.
[16:00:19] <Bytram> requerdanos: or, afraid to tell him "No!" ??
[16:00:50] <Bytram> also, HIPPA
[16:01:00] <requerdanos> well, they talked about disagreeing about the oxygen; seems like they might have talked about disagreeing about discharge schedule?
[16:01:16] <RandomFactor> Yeah, actually kind of interesting they are willing to put out that much info. I'm assuming he told them they could or they wouldn't.
[16:01:29] <Bytram> can't argue with that
[16:01:32] <requerdanos> that's a good point
[16:02:12] <Bytram> beware "selective dissemination" You can talk about ... but you cannot talk about....
[16:02:34] <Bytram> not telling any lies, but still being dishonest
[16:02:45] <requerdanos> that's also a good point.
[16:03:26] <Bytram> after 40 years of software test and spec reviews, I picked up on a few things. :D
[16:03:42] <lld> is that the name of it?
[16:03:44] <lld> "selective dissemination"
[16:03:47] <Bytram> see also: plausible deniability.
[16:03:53] <Bytram> yes
[16:03:58] <lld> I've read so many news articles
[16:04:04] <lld> what they never said changed everything
[16:04:11] <RandomFactor> selective dissemination is pretty much SOP after getting info by the media, you're saying it shouldn't be done before giving info to the media?
[16:04:34] <requerdanos> I also hope that the president's "no distance no mask just rely on unreliable testing" ideas have been discredited, though this is far from certain
[16:04:38] <lld> getting my info through lots and lots of unofficial channels
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[16:06:10] * RandomFactor briefly wonders what 'official' is in the context of news.
[16:06:41] <Bytram> I suppose pushing out over 9300 stories on this site (never mind how many got looked at and passed over) had given me a pretty good idea of some of the tricks that are at play out there.
[16:06:48] <requerdanos> sort of like freenode, where official channels have a # and unofficials have a ## -- official has some affiliation with the source of a story, and unofficial doesn't
[16:06:52] <lld> over here, all news broadcasts require licensing
[16:06:58] <lld> websites too
[16:07:05] <lld> so "official"
[16:07:15] <lld> there is no fake news possible
[16:07:21] <Bytram> LOL]
[16:07:37] <lld> government tried to apply it to blogs it doesn't like
[16:07:46] <Bytram> if you don't mind my asking, where is "over here"
[16:07:52] <lld> everyone just went "meh"
[16:08:03] <lld> a 3rd world shit hole
[16:08:07] <Bytram> or just ignore
[16:08:11] <lld> SE Asia
[16:08:11] <Bytram> k
[16:08:43] <lld> it isn't strange that the chief of police serves arrest warrants over twitter
[16:08:52] <lld> for somebody talking shit on facebook
[16:08:57] <Bytram> gamun, ackun, cap kum crup, kam sah ha mei da
[16:09:25] <Bytram> (sorry about the spelling, going by phonetics)
[16:09:37] <Bytram> also: shia shia and salamut
[16:09:41] <lld> I don't recognize the language, sorry
[16:10:26] <lld> anyway, you learn quickly to distrust the media since all media is government owned
[16:10:26] <Bytram> I was *trying* to say "thank you" for: vietnam, cambodia, thailand, korea, china, and phillipines
[16:10:31] <lld> even private ones
[16:10:33] <lld> ah
[16:10:37] <Bytram> choo!
[16:10:46] <carny> is it singapore where you can go to prison for 'insulting the royal family'?
[16:10:57] <lld> singapore is a republic
[16:11:00] <lld> that's thailand
[16:11:10] <carny> ah ok thanks
[16:11:14] <lld> the bane of backpacking tourists :)
[16:11:24] <carny> oh?
[16:11:39] <lld> its usually tourists not being aware of local laws
[16:12:08] <carny> which one prosecutes people for chewing gum?
[16:12:08] <lld> drugs are usually capital punishment in the region
[16:12:14] <lld> that would be singapore
[16:12:19] <Bytram> given that is on the other side of the world from me, I'd be pretty tired by the time I walked there... especially while trying to cross the pacific ocean
[16:12:50] <AzumaHazuki> [k/g]am-sa-ham-ni-da would be Korean. The G and K don't sound exactly like English
[16:12:55] <lld> it is claimed that the effort to clean up after chewed gum is too hard
[16:13:03] <lld> so they banned it instead
[16:13:24] * Bytram apparently has someone on ignore -- makes for some ... gaps in the conversation
[16:13:52] <lld> apparently there isn't any juvenile considerations for drug trafficking
[16:13:54] <Bytram> break time; away for a while
[16:14:12] <lld> not too long ago, some 16 year old was sentenced to death for drugs
[16:14:36] <RandomFactor> I vaguely remember the punishment for gum was caning at some point. No idea how accurate or how current.
[16:14:54] <carny> RandomFactor: that's what i recall too
[16:15:05] <lld> that's probably true, caning is still a common form of punishment
[16:15:09] <FatPhil> on the spot fines too
[16:15:15] <lld> yep
[16:15:23] <carny> lld: so which ones are the worst for speech/thought crime?
[16:15:26] <FatPhil> not just gum, littering
[16:15:37] <lld> what kinds of thought crime?
[16:15:48] <lld> communism is still banned in the region
[16:15:50] <lld> :)
[16:15:58] <lld> yes, you can get arrested
[16:16:06] <carny> that's just good educational hygeine ;]
[16:16:22] <lld> there are socialists but pretty much limited to university towns
[16:16:39] <lld> even then, any political preaching in universities is criminal
[16:16:53] <RandomFactor> That has potential
[16:17:14] <lld> the way I see how infiltration is controlled is through racial means
[16:17:34] <RandomFactor> although once you get into political science I don't see how you could realistically avoid it
[16:17:35] <lld> it is *harder* to infiltrate the power structures if you also need to get someone of the *right* race
[16:17:47] <lld> the *right* race that has the *right* outlook for you
[16:18:18] <lld> I haven't seen any political science courses taught in local unis
[16:19:03] <lld> you know how they say liberalism is a mental disease? politicians here spout it unironically
[16:19:13] <RandomFactor> https://www.youtube.com
[16:19:16] <systemd> ^ 03CARBYNE LAC Explained in 4 Min - Stronger than Graphene
[16:19:20] <lld> and that is mainstream
[16:19:55] <carny> besides vietnam which countries in your region have problems with communists making a mess of things?
[16:20:16] <lld> the philipines still has communist holdouts
[16:20:34] <lld> the southern islands are pretty much autonomous out of government control
[16:20:55] <lld> its a free for all between royalist remnants, communists, islamists and pirates
[16:20:56] <carny> 'communist' like marxist?
[16:21:01] <carny> or just communal living?
[16:21:06] <lld> marxists
[16:21:12] <lld> not traditional tribals
[16:21:14] <carny> interesting
[16:21:37] <lld> every now and then some chinese tourists get kidnapped and beheaded
[16:21:45] <lld> or ransomed if lucky
[16:22:02] <lld> or chain ransomed
[16:22:15] <lld> even ransomers have middlemen
[16:22:16] <carny> beheading significantly reduces the value of a kidnapping
[16:22:39] <carny> but i guess if you're a kidnapper maybe finance is not your strongest skill
[16:22:42] <lld> nah, sometimes they just want to make noise to let everyone know how serious they are
[16:22:51] <lld> *pay us now or the guy gets it*
[16:22:56] <lld> *beheads a few*
[16:23:43] <lld> there are a few competing sulu royalists pretenders
[16:24:06] <lld> so, nobody can negotiate with them
[16:24:40] <lld> these are left overs from the early modern era, the Spanish mostly pushed them in
[16:28:08] <RandomFactor> https://www.youtube.com
[16:28:10] <systemd> ^ 03Nature has learnt how to eat our plastic!
[16:28:35] <lld> so has the indian ocean :)
[16:37:08] <RandomFactor> https://www.pnas.org
[16:37:14] <systemd> ^ 03Characterization and engineering of a two-enzyme system for plastics depolymerization
[16:37:59] <lld> need another one for feces washing into the indian ocean
[16:38:49] <RandomFactor> https://www.google.com
[16:38:51] <systemd> ^ 03e-coli - Google Search
[16:47:05] <RandomFactor> =cite https://doi.org
[16:47:11] <systemd> <p><b>Journal Reference</b>:<br/>Brandon C. Knott, Erika Erickson, Mark D. Allen, <em>et al</em>. <b>Characterization and engineering of a two-enzyme system for plastics depolymerization</b> [open], <cite>Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.2006753117">10.1073/pnas.2006753117</a>)</p>
[17:06:40] <RandomFactor> https://www.wired.com
[17:06:41] <systemd> ^ 03Robot Dogs Can Help Seniors Cope
[17:07:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Study Sheds Light on 'Dead Water' Phenomenon - https://sylnt.us - swimming-parrots?
[17:07:03] <RandomFactor> Then when their masters are gone we can make robotic seniors so the robotic dogs don't get depressed?
[17:28:24] <requerdanos> That didn't work great in "The Bicentennial Man"
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[19:25:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Spammers Add Random Text to Shortened Links to Evade Detection - https://sylnt.us - hackers-gonna-hack
[19:34:37] <FatPhil> /There Will Come Soft Rains/ = Sci-fi allows torment here (anagram)
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[19:58:31] <driveby> https://www.bbc.co.uk
[19:58:34] <systemd> ^ 03'Race' drivers fined for breaking lockdown rules
[19:58:48] <driveby> https://www.dailymail.co.uk
[19:58:51] <systemd> ^ 03Rick Moranis tells cops to 'catch the bad guy' after being attacked
[19:58:59] <driveby> It was a stranger. A stranger in a hoodie. We don't know anything else about the stranger, or what could possibly have inspired this stranger to punch a Hollywood star unprovoked.
[19:59:24] <driveby> https://i.4pcdn.org
[19:59:29] <driveby> lol google censor
[20:01:55] <driveby> https://archive.4plebs.org
[20:01:58] <systemd> ^ 03/pol/ - Politically Incorrect » Thread #280806188
[20:02:01] <driveby> https://twitter.com
[20:02:02] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter ( https://mobile.twitter.com )
[20:19:29] <driveby> http://voxday.blogspot.com
[20:19:38] <driveby> I don't know what is going on but something is happening below the surface. Locally, the various banks have been shutting down branch offices all over. In the small towns, who owns the prime property at the intersection of Main and State Streets? Banks.
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[20:47:19] <guy_> We don't have a state street driveby
[20:47:38] <guy_> and, in Texarkana, I don't think Main intersects State
[20:52:50] <requerdanos> fast food restaurants have more space on main st. than banks, in my town
[20:57:14] <guy_> This should appeal to an interesting range of people:
[20:57:19] <guy_> https://www.theguardian.com
[20:57:20] <systemd> ^ 03Don't call me brave for living with mental illness - it's condescending
[20:57:36] <guy_> tempted to submit it, LOL
[20:59:41] <requerdanos> what if part of someone's mental illness is "can't take a compliment"
[20:59:53] <requerdanos> just asking "what it", mind you, not making any diagnosis here
[21:00:06] <guy_> Hmmmmm - I wouldn't know
[21:00:43] <requerdanos> what "if" even.
[21:02:30] <requerdanos> Having read the article, I disagree with the author's premise and conclusion.
[21:03:15] <requerdanos> I am on disability for mental health issues, so consider myself qualified+empowered to speak on the subject matter.
[21:04:20] <guy_> And here, we have a small raft of potential crazies from the UK
[21:04:25] <guy_> https://sputniknews.com
[21:04:28] <systemd> ^ 03'X-Files' Fans Agog as UFO ‘Hub’ in UK Revealed in Declassified Files
[21:04:46] <guy_> I'm reading to see if anal probes are as common over there as here
[21:04:57] <requerdanos> Nah, UFOs are real. Stanton Friedman said so.
[21:06:04] <guy_> Midland - a busy hub - thinking - midland - busy hub - yeah, that sounds about right
[21:06:44] <requerdanos> like a tornado seeking its trailer park, right?
[21:06:55] <guy_> yup
[21:18:27] <guy_> https://www.newsmax.com
[21:18:28] <systemd> ^ 03SCOTUS Pick Barrett Had COVID-19 Months Ago
[21:18:38] <guy_> careful not to read that wrong
[21:18:50] <guy_> I thought she had covid like nineteen months ago
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[21:38:12] <FatPhil> https://www.youtube.com
[21:38:13] <systemd> ^ 03Is the Moon a planet or a star?
[21:40:37] <FatPhil> guy_: Lincolnshire is considered a bit backward and inbred. I guess it's the UK's KY.
[21:40:40] <requerdanos> Betteridge has the answer there
[21:41:20] <chromas> Is Betteridge Always Right?
[21:41:29] <requerdanos> Betteridge has the answer there as well.
[21:45:56] <guy_> I trust Worseridge, to be honest
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[21:46:23] <guy_> Not to be confused with Worstridge, which is German.
[21:47:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Researchers Create Plastic-Degrading Enzyme Cocktail - https://sylnt.us - grey-goop
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[23:15:06] <guy_> Trump is out hamming it up for his fans
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