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[00:00:04] <SoyCow4649> =cite https://www.jneurosci.org
[00:00:08] <systemd> Journal Reference: Pei-zhe Wu, Jennifer T. O’Malley, Victor de Gruttola, et al. Age-related hearing loss is dominated by damage to inner ear sensory cells, not the cellular battery that powers them [$], <cite>Journal of Neuroscience</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.1523/JNEUROSCI.0937-20.2020">10.1523/JNEUROSCI.0937-20.2020</a>)
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[01:26:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - U.S. Government to Allow Sale of High-Resolution Commercial Satellite Images of Israel - https://sylnt.us - picture-this
[02:59:26] <nutherguy> =submit https://www.koin.com
[02:59:30] <systemd> Submitting "Portland leaders plead: End the violence, let’s talk"...
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[03:03:01] <AzumaHazuki> this is disingenuous horseshit
[03:03:19] <AzumaHazuki> "butbutbut MEIN PROPERTY!!!111" is precisely the tactic the Nazis used to get their way
[03:03:44] <AzumaHazuki> objects are not above humans. property is subordinate to people. you are saying with this that your convenience and comfort is worth more than human lives.
[03:04:14] <AzumaHazuki> completely in character for you, Runaway, but just another case of history repeating, as the song goes
[03:35:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The People Deserve a Guillotine Emoji - https://sylnt.us - succinct-and-to-the-point
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[04:09:27] <driveby> https://www.thesurvivalpodcast.com
[04:09:29] <systemd> ^ 03Episode-2690- Judy Arnall on Unschooling
[04:09:31] <exec> └─ 13Judy Arnall on Unschooling
[04:09:32] <driveby> http://www.survivalpodcast.net
[04:10:48] <Bytram> https://arstechnica.com
[04:10:49] <systemd> ^ 03It’s becoming clear why the US’ response to COVID-19 is terrible
[04:10:50] <exec> └─ 13It’s becoming clear why the US’ response to COVID-19 is terrible | Ars Technica
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[04:42:31] <SoyCow3196> =asub Follow up story on the Twitter hack https://www.nytimes.com
[04:42:32] <exec> └─ 13Hackers Tell the Story of the Twitter Attack From the Inside - The New York Times
[04:42:33] <systemd> Submitting "Hackers Tell the Story of the Twitter Attack From the Inside"...
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[05:12:01] <chromas> The US response is actually pretty great
[05:12:07] <chromas> We're number one! We're number one! We're number one!
[05:12:27] <chromas> Plus don't forget all the infected and otherwise non-sterile tests we bought
[05:47:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Synapse-Saving Proteins Discovered, Opening Possibilities in Alzheimer's, Schizophrenia - https://sylnt.us - save-the-synapses
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[07:15:40] <boru> sh bo
[07:15:43] <boru> Erf.
[07:15:45] <boru> ENOTTY
[07:58:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Study Uncovers Hair Cell Loss as Underlying Cause of Age-Related Hearing Loss - https://sylnt.us - correlation-and-causation
[08:24:24] <FatPhil> does someone want to find a world readable non-ZH version of this story and submit it? https://www.zerohedge.com
[08:24:26] <systemd> ^ 03Do As I Say, Not As I Do: Well Known Tech Antitrust Critic Works For Apple And Amazon On The Side
[08:24:26] <exec> └─ 13Do As I Say, Not As I Do: Well Known Tech Antitrust Critic Works For Apple And Amazon On The Side | Zero Hedge
[08:27:13] <boru> Why non-ZH?
[08:33:05] <FatPhil> because mention of ZH is a dogwhistle
[08:33:14] <boru> A what?
[08:33:53] <FatPhil> something which will get people in a flap
[08:34:00] <boru> ...why?
[08:34:06] <FatPhil> because it's ZH!
[08:34:21] <boru> I don't understand. What is wrong with ZH?
[08:34:26] <FatPhil> It's "far right" and "libertarian" and stuff like that.
[08:34:42] <FatPhil> Therefore every story it carries must be false.
[08:34:44] <boru> You've got the be kidding.
[08:34:50] <boru> s/the/to
[08:35:11] <FatPhil> Nope - ZH's been wiped from wikipedia as an "unreliable source"
[08:35:28] <boru> Ironic, since wikipedia is an unreliable source.
[08:35:58] <boru> Crowdsourcing knowledge only works if your crowd isn't politically slanted idiots.
[08:37:02] <boru> "Illegal dissenting opinions" indeed.
[08:48:53] <chromas> You should read the comments on every ZH story
[08:49:13] <FatPhil> I've not been able to for over a year
[08:49:27] <boru> I presume it's much like youtube, like almost all comment sections.
[08:49:36] <chromas> Only moreso
[08:49:45] <chromas> Maximum conspiracy nut
[08:49:49] <boru> Nothing of value is lost, then.
[08:49:55] <FatPhil> I don't miss them. Occasionally it's fun to trawl the idiotic underbelly of the internet and see what the bottom feeders are gibbering on about.
[08:50:01] <boru> Does that somehow detract from the site as a new source?
[08:50:18] <boru> "Idiots read this website, therefore you should discount and preclude it"
[08:50:23] <chromas> to some people
[08:50:33] <boru> By that logic, SN should be considered in the same boat.
[08:50:37] <chromas> on the other hand, we've had a few Buzzfeed News stories
[08:50:43] <FatPhil> you have to remember that ZH is an aggregator, 90% of its stuff is from external authors.
[08:50:45] * boru chuckles.
[08:50:49] <boru> Buzzfeed? Really?
[08:50:50] <chromas> (we've also posted ZH stories in the long past)
[08:51:14] <FatPhil> >50% of the external authors are complete nutcases.
[08:51:44] <boru> I think that's an exaggeation, personally.
[08:51:49] <chromas> Buzzfeed News is the one who broke the Steele Dossier so you know it's good
[08:52:36] <boru> These days it's hard to find news outside of MSM narrative. ZH is one of the few places to still get that.
[08:52:39] <chromas> I think they've had a couple good stories though, probably accidentally, much like an aristarchus sub
[08:53:23] <boru> It's even hard to find tech news that isn't completely infested with these socio-political lunatics.
[08:53:24] <FatPhil> for the news that the MSM doesn't carry, ZH's my favourite source, because it's somewhat shotgun.
[08:54:10] <chromas> Someone should develop an algorithm to eztract stories from tech sites and strip out the bs
[08:54:35] <chromas> super easy, barely an inconvenience
[08:55:06] <boru> It's getting harder and harder to do that.
[08:55:38] <FatPhil> harder and harder finding a story with anything left after BS-removal?
[08:55:59] <boru> I just want to read factual news, not be bomarded with ads or newsletter subscriptions or banal, hypocritical political causes.
[08:56:06] <chromas> Time to create a new tech news site
[08:56:22] <boru> Heise online is still pretty okay, but it's only available in German now.
[08:56:50] <boru> After that, I just read mailing lists and newsgroups.
[08:57:29] <boru> Or Project Veritas when they carry a good story, which is almost always. Investigative journalism is probably the only "real" journalism left.
[08:57:48] * chromas would like to investigate a burrito
[08:58:31] <boru> So much these days is "X had this to say on twitter/facebook; here are the few measly sentences we managed to construct around it."
[08:59:10] <boru> The Guardian used to be a good newspaper, but now that's a rag of slanted crap as well.
[08:59:31] <FatPhil> one of the problems with PV is that it seems vendetta-based. They have a few targets and they just repeatedly peck at that.
[08:59:34] <boru> Actually, Science Daily is also still good.
[08:59:49] <chromas> Yeah but come one man, those two twitter posts represent everyone in the world, so when they make some benign comment, the entire internet is totally SLAMming $person or $thing
[08:59:54] <boru> "If it can be destroyed by the truth, it deserves to be destroyed by the truth."
[09:00:06] <boru> So I am fine with that.
[09:00:06] <FatPhil> not that that doesn't need to be done, it's just that it's clear they are pushing an anti-$CORP agenda.
[09:00:42] <boru> Are you being serious?
[09:01:05] <FatPhil> Yup, but like the ZH link above - sometimes the anti-google pusher is on the payroll of amazon.
[09:01:28] <boru> And amazon have had their lot as well. I don't see the problem.
[09:01:44] <boru> These things _should_ be exposed.
[09:02:26] <boru> Look at that amazon whistleblower who showed that they promote diversity in their workforce because it reduces worker solidarity and the desire to unionise.
[09:02:34] <FatPhil> Ah, by "$CORP" above, I meant "just one particular company, whatever the flavour of the quarter is", not "any megacorp".
[09:03:10] <boru> I doubt they have the resources to carry out N investigative/clandestine operations at once.
[09:03:31] <chromas> We just need more groups to do the investigating
[09:03:56] <chromas> Form teams who each hate some group enough to constantly sneak in to investigate
[09:03:56] <FatPhil> Yes, but I'd prefer a source that was willing to carry anti-GOOG, anti-AAPL, anti-AMZN, anti-all-the-rest-of-them stories, not just having a bias against one.
[09:04:44] <boru> I wish they did the Epstein stuff.
[09:04:49] <boru> There is so much coming out about that.
[09:05:20] <boru> My guess is that is the reason that those 20 or so CEOs of major financial company all stepping down in February.
[09:05:30] <boru> Companies, even.
[09:05:45] <boru> I'd love to see the lid blown off that one.
[09:05:55] <FatPhil> nice big golden handshakes no doubt.
[09:06:11] <FatPhil> golden handjobs by teens
[09:06:18] <boru> Indeed.
[09:06:44] <boru> There are so many substantial unanswered questions surrounding that whole thing.
[09:06:55] <boru> Did you see the story I submitted last night?
[09:07:08] <FatPhil> the hit/suicice combo
[09:07:33] <boru> There was another one, as well. That woman married to the Earl of Guinness worked for that Maxwell woman was employed in the NSPCC in the UK and has stepped down.
[09:07:42] <boru> I think they're all scrambling now.
[09:08:59] <boru> I thought the interesting one was when the FBI waited for 4 weeks to "investigate" Epstein's island after his death, but that guy who went out there in a boat and flew a drone over the property saw several guys in the house going through boxes and stuff.
[09:09:23] <FatPhil> Guinness has been a tainted family tree since the 80s for me.
[09:09:35] <boru> But of course, that's all "conspiracy nut" stuff. Can't allow that.
[09:10:23] <FatPhil> it's very easy to creep from joining family and party and business ties together, and ending up all Beautiful Mind.
[09:10:31] <boru> Guinness has been tainted since Diageo took over and bowed to a few vegan morons in the UK to agree to stop using fish bladders to filter the beer, fundamentally changing the flavour.
[09:10:37] <FatPhil> and sticking (((brackets))) around everything
[09:11:07] <FatPhil> oh, fuck me - I remember the bottle conditioned guinesses from the early 80s
[09:11:19] <FatPhil> damn, yeah, that was a shame when they stopped those.
[09:11:23] <boru> Sure. I've no doubt many of the photographs we're seeing at the moment are mere coincidence where two people happen to be in the frame at the same time.
[09:11:57] <FatPhil> Epstein/Maxwell were social creatures, they were seen with everyone.
[09:12:02] <boru> Well, there are far better stout beers from Ireland; Kilkenny, Murphy's, Porterhouse Plain, Wrassler's 4X etc.
[09:14:03] <FatPhil> the bottle conditioned one was just as good
[09:14:09] <boru> Someone sure is worried though. There is plenty of circumstantial evidence which suggests that Epstein didn't commit suicide, Maxwell's ties to israeli intelligence, and now this hit on the Judge's son which almost killed his attorney, also.
[09:14:39] <boru> It all smells a bit fishy to me.
[09:14:50] <boru> The Epstein thing. Not the Guinness (har har).
[09:15:07] <FatPhil> the Maxwell name's been tainted since I was ->this<- high
[09:15:42] <boru> What font size?
[09:16:16] <chromas> I bet her coffee's tainted too
[09:17:50] <FatPhil> boru: baptismal
[09:18:04] <boru> That is a very large font.
[09:19:08] <FatPhil> but I was horizontal at the time, so less high
[09:19:51] <boru> Pft, what an Earth-centric view. At least orient yourself with the gravity well you are falling into.
[09:20:43] <chromas> Is there only one?
[09:20:56] <boru> Oh, cryptome also has some interesting stuff posted on it, but it's a bit more like wikileaks.
[09:20:57] <chromas> What if the gravity well is falling into another gravity well?
[09:21:21] <boru> They all are, up to a point.
[09:22:48] <boru> Superclusters falling into superclusters.
[09:25:30] <chromas> it's clusters all the way down
[09:25:37] <chromas> honey nut clusters
[09:25:42] <boru> To a point.
[09:25:56] <boru> Which was also a pun.
[09:26:05] <boru> But nevermind. I should get back to work.
[09:29:10] <chromas> That doesn't seem right at all
[09:29:44] <chromas> Switch your project over to C++ so you have more compiling time to read and chat
[09:30:30] * boru chuckles.
[09:32:40] <chromas> I wonder if anyone's made a programming language designed to maximize compilation time
[09:32:49] <chromas> =g programming language maximize compilation time
[09:32:50] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Optimizing compiler - Wikipedia
[09:33:00] <chromas> =g unoptimizing compiler
[09:33:01] <systemd> https://www.jayconrod.com - A tour of V8: full compiler — jayconrod.com
[09:33:13] <boru> I would say java, but that's moreso load times.
[09:34:23] <chromas> I tell ya huwaht, when I boot up janrinok's Storybot5 python script, it takes like 25 seconds to get going
[09:34:33] <boru> Well, it's python.
[09:34:42] <boru> The java of scripting languages.
[09:34:43] <chromas> But I don't think anything else is running python on that box so there's probably no cache
[09:35:23] <boru> I don't think you can beat C++ in terms of compilation complexity, thought.
[09:35:38] <boru> Especially where templates are involved.
[09:37:21] * chromas creates a template to generate new, randomized turing complete template languages
[09:39:15] <carny> chromas: the storybot script for scraping news sites is python and takes 25 seconds to get going?
[09:40:02] <chromas> Yeah. Well I didn't really count but it takes a long time. I only use it for the single url article extraction feature (when my script fails)
[09:40:14] <chromas> I'll give it a go now and count
[09:41:33] <chromas> alright, it was only 8 seconds
[09:41:35] <chromas> close enough
[09:42:12] <chromas> My script took 2 though, so that's pretty bd
[09:42:13] <chromas> bad
[09:42:44] <chromas> curl takes 900ms on the same link
[09:42:53] <carny> how big is it?
[09:43:03] <carny> is your script written in d?
[09:43:20] <chromas> it is, so it's (statically) compiled
[09:43:51] * chromas is currently being molested by a moth
[09:44:47] <chromas> 4.5 or so MB but it's statically compiled and I didn't turn on optimizations
[09:47:27] <carny> i have no idea what d is like
[09:51:19] <chromas> The language is better then the documentation
[09:56:06] <GrandFireWizard> chromas, stop bending over?
[09:56:15] <chromas> no
[10:03:03] <chromas> if 3, 3, + is reverse polish notation, does that make add(3, 3) regular polish?
[10:06:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Venus May Have Dozens of Active Volcanoes - https://sylnt.us
[10:14:59] <carny> no idea but it's less confusing ;]
[10:15:33] <FatPhil> you don't need punctuation for either PN or RPN, that's the point of them
[10:16:03] <FatPhil> as soon as there's the right number of things on the stack, gobble them up.
[10:16:09] <boru> Infix notation is silly.
[10:16:22] <FatPhil> humans like it
[10:16:51] <boru> And PN == RPN; it's Poland. They have everything backwards.
[10:19:45] * chromas invents rpn function calls
[10:19:46] <FatPhil> PN's basically how recursive descent parsers operate. I've seen something, now I expect a certain amount more...
[10:19:57] <chromas> ;(3,3)sum
[10:20:01] <FatPhil> forth is nothing but RPN function calls
[10:20:10] <FatPhil> a b op
[10:20:24] <boru> They're called words, not functions. Pft.
[10:20:46] * chromas invents rpn dword calls
[10:21:27] <FatPhil> yes, and those words are function calls.
[11:04:21] * RandomFactor stumbles blindly to the keyboard and glares at the pretty colors in chat
[11:10:17] <RandomFactor> =submit it's a big boat https://www.zerohedge.com
[11:10:19] <exec> └─ 13US Navy Readies Personnel-Tracking-Wearables To Ensure COVID Social-Distancing | Zero Hedge
[11:10:19] <systemd> Submitting "US Navy Readies Personnel-Tracking-Wearables To Ensure COVID Social-Distancing"...
[11:10:40] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03US Navy Readies Personnel-Tracking-Wearables to Ensure COVID Social-Distancing" (8 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[11:18:50] <RandomFactor> neat
[11:19:07] <RandomFactor> =submit let's be blunt https://scitechdaily.com
[11:19:09] <exec> └─ 13Proteus Technology: New Material Is Strong, Light and Non-Cuttable
[11:19:11] <systemd> Submitting "Proteus Technology: New Material Is Strong, Light and Non-Cuttable"...
[11:19:33] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Proteus Technology: New Material is Strong, Light and Non-Cuttable" (29 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[11:22:18] <RandomFactor> =submit i thought it was lobsters https://www.abc.net.au
[11:22:19] <exec> └─ 13Crown-of-thorns starfish 'cockroach of the ocean' and much more resilient than previously thought - ABC News
[11:22:20] <systemd> Submitting "Crown-of-thorns starfish 'cockroach of the ocean' and much more resilient than previously thought - ABC News"...
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[11:26:08] <RandomFactor> https://www.infosecurity-magazine.com
[11:26:11] <systemd> ^ 03Genealogy Software Maker Exposes Data on 60,000 Users
[11:26:13] <exec> └─ 13Genealogy Software Maker Exposes Data on 60,000 Users - Infosecurity Magazine
[11:26:20] <RandomFactor> https://phys.org
[11:26:21] <systemd> ^ 03If it's big enough and leafy enough the birds will come
[11:26:22] <exec> └─ 13If it's big enough and leafy enough the birds will come
[11:26:51] <RandomFactor> I remember hearing once that cities were basically a big man-made desert from a bird's perspective
[11:27:24] <RandomFactor> Guess pigeons like deserts...
[11:29:02] <RandomFactor> ok, mostly conscious...and time for work.
[11:29:20] * RandomFactor wanders off
[11:47:18] <FatPhil> and seagulls
[11:48:57] <FatPhil> there are at least half a dozen bars or cafes that share our courtyard, and one of them is guaranteed to have an overflowing bin. Seagulls with take less than a 10th of a second to have any exposed bag pulled out and ripped open.
[11:52:02] <FatPhil> And of course not all cities are created equal. Espoo in Finland (the 2nd biggest city) is mostly a network of overgrown villages, you're never far from woodlands.
[12:18:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - African Grey Parrot Outperforms Children and Harvard College Students - https://sylnt.us - I-see-what-you-did-there
[13:15:16] <FatPhil> coffee++
[13:15:16] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5319
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[14:52:54] <GrandFireWizard> =submit https://www.news.com.au
[14:52:56] <systemd> Submitting "Sydney Catholic school students told ‘only white people can be racist’"...
[14:53:00] <exec> └─ 13Sydney Catholic school students told ‘only white people can be racist’
[14:53:02] <GrandFireWizard> it's amazing what you can find on online surveys
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[15:36:16] <FatPhil> https://scontent-hel2-1.xx.fbcdn.net
[15:37:54] <FatPhil> GrandFireWizard: no news there. my dad sat on the race relations board on the local council (a borough of ~220000 people, very ethnically diverse), and it was explicitly stated that if neither of the parties was white, it wasn't a race-related issue, and not their purview.
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[15:38:02] <FatPhil> that was back in the 80s.
[15:38:56] <FatPhil> We even had black gangs stabbing pakistani gangs, graffitiing the walls with racial epithets, and they were told "not a racial issue".
[15:39:39] * boru rolls eyes.
[15:39:44] <FatPhil> After that particular incident, my dad stepped down, as he viewed it as a counterproductive endeavour.
[15:40:10] <FatPhil> This was when Dianne Abbott was in the news for being an idiot loonie leftie.
[15:40:34] <FatPhil> Nothing changes.
[15:42:01] <FatPhil> Not wishing to overstate things, but my dad was probably the most highly respected councillor in the borough. Even died-in-the-wool liberals would give one of their three votes to him at local elections time. So him stepping down brought it into a harsh light.
[15:42:35] <FatPhil> Which lasted all of a weekly news cycle, and then it was back to normal again.
[15:43:01] <boru> The problem is that as people leave these institutions, those left fill the vacuum with more of their ilk.
[15:43:20] <boru> It's a quiet takeover, if no one resists.
[15:43:45] <FatPhil> Indeed. He didn't leave without much thought.
[15:44:32] <FatPhil> Back in the 80s we naively believed that the loonie lefties would ouroboros themselves into irrelevance. How wrong we were.
[15:45:31] <boru> Indeed. So many institutions are infested as a result.
[15:45:39] <FatPhil> I think UK did it deeply before the US, and maybe it did fade out, but the US explosion of it has re-infected the UK again.
[15:45:56] <boru> You can thank globalism for that.
[15:46:12] <FatPhil> UK was so often a follower of US though, on many things.
[15:46:25] <FatPhil> I always viewed Maggie as a lapdog of Ronnie
[15:46:27] <boru> You can thank NATO for that.
[15:47:27] <FatPhil> I think it's more the "special relationship" that we had. We've always been as thick as thieves. And one was clearly the big dog, the other was yappy sidekick.
[15:51:16] <FatPhil> Not sure when we became the weak beta state, possible after the Suez Crisis. So we were desperate for someone strong to buddy up to after that.
[15:52:04] <boru> And of course, no one thinks about the future.
[15:52:41] <FatPhil> Politicians can only generally see 5 years ahead, max.
[15:53:28] <boru> Indeed. These fools will never live to see the mess they make.
[15:53:49] <FatPhil> We have a new party here called "Estonia 200", whose core policy is "We want Estonia to still exist for 200 years, and remain strong the whole time, short term thinking is not productive".
[15:54:13] <FatPhil> They have my vote from now on, unless there's a particularly compelling independent.
[15:56:23] <FatPhil> They polled 4.4% in the last election, which theoretically is enough for 4 seats in the parliament of 101. Alas our PR has a stupid cutoff of 5%, so they aren't represented at all.
[16:01:00] <Ingar> in the meanwhile, Ingar cookcs meatballs
[16:01:11] <Ingar> with extra c for flavour
[16:02:53] <Ingar> we're having our national holiday today
[16:03:15] <Ingar> I never really knew what the date actually stood for
[16:03:28] <Ingar> turns out it is the inauguration date of our first king (makes sense)
[16:03:46] <Ingar> He was actually married to the crown princess of England
[16:03:52] <FatPhil> You must be American then: https://nationaldaycalendar.com
[16:03:53] <systemd> ^ 03NATIONAL JUNK FOOD DAY - July 21 - National Day Calendar
[16:03:53] <exec> └─ 13NATIONAL JUNK FOOD DAY - July 21 - National Day Calendar
[16:04:17] <Ingar> but she died, so they offered him Greece, HE didn't know Greek so they made him king of Belgium
[16:04:49] <Ingar> who needs comedy when there's history
[16:05:41] <FatPhil> Have you seen the movies /King of the Belgians/ or /The Barefoot Emperor/?
[16:05:58] <Ingar> FatPhil: no, I had no idea such a thing existed
[16:06:35] <Ingar> heh,
[16:07:36] <FatPhil> We've only seen the sequel and it was an indie movie with a very limited target audience. More weird than entertaining.
[16:08:02] <FatPhil> We pondered over downloading the first one, and decided against it.
[16:08:03] <Ingar> I recognize some local actors on the film poster
[16:08:47] <Ingar> looks likeI can watch it in my ISP's video library
[16:08:49] <FatPhil> We saw it at an arts film festival here, wasn't on mainstream release.
[16:10:20] <Ingar> at least it's in nativespeak
[16:11:04] <Ingar> Belgium guy getting info on a flemish movie from an englishman in estonia? there most be a joke in there
[16:11:27] <FatPhil> Hoorah for the EU!
[16:37:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - GitHub Buries 21 TB of Open Source Data in an Arctic Archive - https://sylnt.us - that's-exactly-where-I'd-look!
[16:55:01] <pinchy> and nothing of value was stored
[17:05:30] <chromas> Won't the global warmings ruin the archive
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[18:14:03] <FatPhil> chromas: see my post
[18:14:18] <FatPhil> TL;DR: could be
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[18:46:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tiny Yet Useful: 13 Raspberry Pi Zero Alternatives that Cost Less Than $20 - https://sylnt.us - how-well-have-they-worked-for-you?
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[20:46:51] <SoyGuest271828> =cite http://dx.doi.org
[20:46:54] <systemd> Journal Reference: Minwoo Choi, Sa-Rang Bae, Luhing Hu, et al. Full-color active-matrix organic light-emitting diode display on human skin based on a large-area MoS2 backplane [open], <cite>Science Advances</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.1126/sciadv.abb5898">10.1126/sciadv.abb5898</a>)
[20:46:56] <exec> └─ 13Full-color active-matrix organic light-emitting diode display on human skin based on a large-area MoS2 backplane | Science Advances
[20:47:09] <SoyGuest271828> =cite http://dx.doi.org
[20:47:11] <systemd> Journal Reference: Tsuyoshi Sekitani, Hiroyoshi Nakajima, Hiroki Maeda, et al. Stretchable active-matrix organic light-emitting diode display using printable elastic conductors, <cite>Nature Materials</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.1038/nmat2459">10.1038/nmat2459</a>)
[20:47:21] <SoyGuest271828> =cite http://dx.doi.org
[20:47:24] <systemd> Journal Reference: Kibum Kang, Saien Xie, Lujie Huang, et al. High-mobility three-atom-thick semiconducting films with wafer-scale homogeneity, <cite>Nature</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.1038/nature14417">10.1038/nature14417</a>)
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[20:57:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - AMD Launches Ryzen 4000G Desktop APUs: OEM-Only at First - https://sylnt.us
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[22:22:41] <RandomFactor> =submit cryptochrome-1 https://www.express.co.uk
[22:22:43] <exec> └─ 13Dog news: The real reason dogs always find their way home - breakthrough study | Science | News | Express.co.uk
[22:22:43] <systemd> Submitting "The real reason dogs always find their way home - breakthrough study"...
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[23:06:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Light Shaken and Stirred to Help Autonomous Vehicles Better Scan for Nearby Fast-Moving Objects - https://sylnt.us - ongoing-quest-to-capture-the-Roadrunner
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[23:55:48] <driveby> https://www.permaculturenews.org
[23:55:49] <systemd> ^ 03The Permaculture Research Institute
[23:55:50] <exec> └─ 13The Permaculture Research Institute
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