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[00:56:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Musk, Obama, Biden, Bezos, Gates-Bitcoin Scam Hits Twitter in Coordinated Blitz - https://sylnt.us - TANSTAAFL
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[01:22:06] <AzumaHazuki> question for the admins: if someone has a weird idea of trolling where they quote one of your previous posts wholesale and modify it (in this case, just adding "nigger" into it somewhere) can I spam mod it? :v
[01:27:02] <chromas> is that a Canadian smile?
[01:37:18] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: Oi. PM?
[01:37:26] <AzumaHazuki> sure
[01:37:53] <AzumaHazuki> no, it's the "pacman" emoji from something awful, the emoticon equivalent of "hurrrr!"
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[02:53:05] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[02:53:05] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[02:55:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, if they do it more than once, it'd qualify. short of that for the type of post described, i'd personally just reverse it and not ban on grounds of being arguable but not quite there.
[02:56:00] <AzumaHazuki> i counted two instances, and there will undoubtedly be more coming
[02:56:07] <AzumaHazuki> this site has no immune system
[02:57:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure it does. you're all part of it. get to work.
[02:59:02] * TheMightyBuzzard drops a note to #soupersekritchannel that the mods in question were on repetitive noise comments
[03:05:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, bed for me unless anyone needs something else
[03:07:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Outlook is Crashing Worldwide With 0xc0000005 Errors, How to Fix - https://sylnt.us - thanks-for-the-update
[03:07:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> good rule of thumb, unique instances of idiotic jackassery _probably_ don't qualify but repetitive ones almost always will. arguable cases don't result in a ban but they need to be arguable to someone who isn't all worked up over $whatever.
[03:07:45] <AzumaHazuki> the fix involves a Linux or BSD live medium i assume :D
[03:08:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> one can only hope
[03:11:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, looks like NCommander started paying attention to transferring the Stripe balance to the bank again. guess he didn't find me putting "hookers and blow" in the transfer memo as amusing as i did.
[03:13:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes, i have access to the stripe and paypal accounts. no i don't to the bank account. gotta code for the payment processors but no code touches the bank.
[04:10:36] <nutherguy> Accountants have no sense of humor
[04:10:50] <nutherguy> or, if they do, it's so alien the rest of us cannot detect it
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[05:18:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SIGRed (CVE-2020-1350) Critical Remote Code Execution Vulnerability on Microsoft DNS Servers - https://sylnt.us - Security
[05:28:51] <nutherguy> =submit https://act.eff.org
[05:28:52] <exec> └─ 13Tell Congress to Ban Federal Use of Face Recognition | EFF Action Center
[05:28:53] <systemd> Submitting "Tell Congress to Ban Federal Use of Face Recognition"...
[05:29:14] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Tell Congress to Ban Federal Use of Face Recognition" (5 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[05:42:12] <FatPhil> Bytram: the ">Removed at user request." beenz!
[05:55:06] <FatPhil> #weather
[05:55:08] <MrPlow> Town Hall Square, Raekoja plats, Tallinn, Estonia - Today: "Partly cloudy throughout the day." 72/58F, Humidity: 68%, Precip: 1%, Wind ~5mph. Fri: "Clear throughout the day." 73/57F, Humidity: 69%, Precip: 1%, Wind ~6mph. Sat: "Partly cloudy throughout the day." 76/58F, Humidity: 65%, Precip: 2%, Wind ~5mph.
[07:17:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists May Have Found One Path to a Longer Life - https://sylnt.us
[07:45:48] <FatPhil> Anyone done any comet spotting yet?
[08:33:08] <halibut> I managed to join the ranks of people who saw Comet NEOWISE with the naked eye.
[08:40:26] <FatPhil> oooh, well done sir!
[08:41:32] <FatPhil> Absolutely no chance here. Even on the darkest of nights we'll only get about 20 stars visible in the night sky, so I guess that's a magnitude 2 cutoff. And it's mid-summer now, so no hope.
[08:41:46] <FatPhil> Yay, capital cities.
[08:44:22] <FatPhil> however, I have a nice zoom on my camera, so will try to fake it
[09:25:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Charter's Hidden "Broadcast TV" Fee Now Adds $197 a Year to Cable Bills - https://sylnt.us - double-dip
[09:28:47] <boru> You'd be surprised how much you can do even in an urban environment; I do a lot of narrowband imaging, mostly emission nebulae. Narrow FWHM are quite suited for uniform light pollution e.g. low/high power sodium lights have a very define emission line which can be filtered out e.g. if you're imaging H-a, [OIII], [SII] or [NII] etc, since you're filtering out all but that light. Of course, broadband light
[09:28:53] <boru> sources like the moon and the sky will lower SNR at any wavelength, but it's an improvement for specific emissions. For example, here is the IC1318 (Gamma Cygni Nebula) Ha emission line which I imaged in suboptimal skies: https://i.ibb.co
[09:29:26] <boru> That's mostly unprocessed data short of calibration and histogram processing, hence the artifacts and downsampling for the web.
[09:30:27] <boru> (Ha being hydrogen alpha emission)
[09:32:09] <boru> Hmm, looking at the artifacts I think there's an out of focus image in that stack somewhere. I should re-run my pipeline.
[09:36:41] <boru> #weather tegernsee
[09:36:42] <MrPlow> Gulbransson-Museum, Kurgarten 5, 83684 Tegernsee, Germany - Today: "Rain throughout the day." 61/52F, Humidity: 78%, Precip: 99%, Wind ~3mph. Fri: "Rain until evening." 62/48F, Humidity: 80%, Precip: 99%, Wind ~2mph. Sat: "Possible light rain in the evening." 68/54F, Humidity: 70%, Precip: 64%, Wind ~3mph.
[09:36:51] <boru> Feh.
[10:37:25] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: I'd sooner guess that was Matt_ doing the PayPal activity... 1st half is over and is time to do a Balance Sheet and a Profit/Loss statement and taxes due and all that.
[10:54:25] <boru> #submit https://www.infoq.com This chip is used in so many bluetooth products. Might be fun to go wardriving and find some and see if any have accessible SWD pins.
[10:54:27] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[10:54:28] <exec> └─ 13Hardware Attack Exposes nRF52 Debugger
[10:54:50] <boru> Needs physical access, but still.
[10:54:52] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
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[11:06:01] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches his chin
[11:06:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> well if nobody cares, i'm going to have some fun with it. put stuff like "laundered mob money" and "union kickbacks" in the memo field.
[11:08:14] <boru> "cartel ransom"
[11:09:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> "CIA slush fund"
[11:10:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> "extortion payments for july"
[11:10:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> since all payments going from stripe to the bank are the same thing, it's a superfluous field
[11:12:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> i find it very difficult to resist putting silly things in superfluous fields
[11:13:20] <boru> Indeed.
[11:13:45] <boru> "Ghislaine Maxwell's payoff"
[11:15:41] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: I'd suggest running that idea past Matt_ before doing do.
[11:16:24] <Bytram> s/do.$/anything/
[11:16:26] <exec> <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: I'd suggest running that idea past Matt_ before doing anything
[11:16:45] <Bytram> =gleam TheMightyBuzzard
[11:16:45] * systemd covertly liberates a handbag of Soylent News from TheMightyBuzzard
[11:16:57] <Bytram> coffee++
[11:16:57] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5309
[11:17:00] <Bytram> biab
[11:26:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> "covid ppe for numbers runners"
[11:31:27] <boru> "ANFOS for saturday"
[11:32:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> "yearly boot allowance for hitmen"
[11:34:03] <boru> "Breaking News: The popular news website 'Soylent News' has been shutdown and had their servers siezed for investigation into charges of terrorism and organised crime."
[11:36:16] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[11:36:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Trump Admin Caves to Harvard and MIT, Won’t Deport Online-Only Students - https://sylnt.us - sudden-outbreak-of-common-sense?
[11:40:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> "swedish-made penis enlarger pump"
[11:42:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh ya...
[11:43:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> =gawk Bytram
[11:43:18] * systemd almost incoherently waves a spoon of false promises at Bytram
[11:43:46] <Bytram> almost, but not quite!
[11:44:12] <Bytram> how's construction coming along? Getting near the end?
[11:46:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> hopefully near the rough-in inspection. mostly sheetrock and fixtures after that
[11:47:43] <Bytram> sounds good! another month or so before move-in?
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[11:49:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> more than that most likely. haven't had anything go smoothly yet, don't see it starting up now.
[11:49:33] <Bytram> Optimist!
[11:51:19] <Bytram> do I dare ask what can go wrong with sheetrock and fixtures? Plumbing is done, right? and rommie is an electrician, right? So that covers the big stuff.
[11:52:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> speaking of, think ima go up there and run some flex conduit from a weatherproof box outside so the cable guys don't have to figure out how to route or mount their cable when it's time
[11:53:03] <Bytram> Oh, will you still have your same internet provider at the new location?
[11:53:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh plenty. like we had ~30 gallons of water on the floor the other day because the output hose on the french drain pump disconnected itself and it was just circulating water from the dry well to the dry well not removing it
[11:53:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup
[11:54:56] <Bytram> SNL had it right: We're going to pump you *up*
[11:55:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> one more cup of coffee first though. and a smoke while i'm at it for good measure.
[11:55:56] <Bytram> better to find that out before you have personal stuff moved in and getting damaged!
[11:56:02] <Bytram> nod nod
[12:40:51] <carny> https://tracking.feedpress.com
[12:40:52] <systemd> ^ 03Thousands of Small Business Owners Have Not Gotten Disaster Loans the Government Promised Them ( https://www.propublica.org )
[12:40:54] <exec> └─ 13Thousands of Small Business Owners Have Not Gotten Disaster Loans the Government Promised Them — ProPublica
[12:41:13] <carny> https://medicalxpress.com
[12:41:14] <systemd> ^ 03Let's scrap the neuromyths: No, you aren't a 'visual' or 'auditory' person
[12:41:15] <exec> └─ 13Let's scrap the neuromyths: No, you aren't a 'visual' or 'auditory' person
[12:48:55] <FatPhil> Let's scrap the somamyths too: No, you aren't 'skinny', 'muscular', or 'fat'.
[13:03:10] <carny> hey you shut up
[13:03:19] <carny> i'm losing weight as fast as i can
[13:08:56] <FatPhil> I identify as muscular.
[13:09:13] <FatPhil> #FatLivesMatter
[13:46:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Researchers Report 3-D Printed Latex Rubber Breakthrough - https://sylnt.us - does-it-help-with-text-formatting?
[15:55:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Research Brief: Researchers 3D Print a Working Heart Pump with Real Human Cells - https://sylnt.us - I'll-take-two
[16:04:52] <RandomFactor> =submit https://www.eurekalert.org
[16:04:54] <exec> └─ 13Blood iron levels could be key to slowing ageing, gene study shows | EurekAlert! Science News
[16:04:55] <systemd> Submitting "Blood iron levels could be key to slowing ageing, gene study shows"...
[16:05:16] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Blood Iron Levels Could be Key to Slowing Ageing, Gene Study Shows" (16 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[16:08:28] <RandomFactor> =submit MFA https://www.wired.com
[16:08:29] <exec> └─ 13Iranian Spies Accidentally Leaked Videos of Themselves Hacking | WIRED
[16:08:29] <systemd> Submitting "Iranian Spies Accidentally Leaked Videos of Themselves Hacking"...
[16:08:51] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Iranian Spies Accidentally Leaked Videos of Themselves Hacking" (15 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[18:07:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Common FDA-Approved Drug May Effectively Neutralize Virus that Causes COVID-19 - https://sylnt.us - worth-a-shot
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[18:55:39] <SoyGuest271828> =declined
[18:55:39] <systemd> Thanks for submitting this story. It appears that no editor has yet selected this story to be run. At least a week has passed since the story was submitted, and if an editor was going to have selected it, they would likely have done so by now. It has, therefore, been removed from the submission queue.
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[19:15:38] <halibut> FatPhil: It sounds like light pollution might be just too much. Even with a lot of light pollution, though, even small binoculars help a lot. You might try it.
[19:16:27] <halibut> FatPhil: The camera may help, too. Zoom is not very important. You just want the extra light collection. I guess your eye can pick the comet out from a bright background better if there is more light available.
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[19:22:55] <FatPhil> the front of the zoom is bigger than my iris, that's what I'm banking on
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[20:16:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The TLS 1.2 Deadline is Looming, How Well Do You Have Your Act Together? - https://sylnt.us
[21:31:52] <RandomFactor> =submit surprising absolutely noone https://thecritic.co.uk
[21:31:54] <systemd> Submitting "Twitter’s shadowban confirmed"...
[21:31:55] <exec> └─ 13Twitter’s shadowban confirmed | David Scullion | The Critic Magazine
[21:32:16] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Twitter’s Shadowban Confirmed" (13 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[21:42:30] <chromas> "You send $1,000 an I will send $2,000 back!"
[21:42:42] <chromas> People actually fell for that.
[21:43:59] <RandomFactor> Within seconds it seems
[21:58:52] <chromas> or...did they? Perhaps it's all a scam to launder money they already had
[22:04:33] <RandomFactor> Bitcoin needs laundered?
[22:05:07] <RandomFactor> (honest question)
[22:06:27] <chromas> Hire some virtual rubes to convert your dollars to bitcoins, 'donate' to twitter-based scam, buy hookers and blow
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[22:07:47] <RandomFactor> I blame the Dutch...or maybe Home Depot https://earther.gizmodo.com
[22:07:48] <systemd> ^ 03Russian River Runs Orange After a Catastrophic Mine Spill
[22:07:48] <exec> └─ 13Russian River Runs Orange After a Catastrophic Mine Spill
[22:08:48] <chromas> "the latest in a strong of environmental catastrophes to befall the nation."
[22:08:57] <chromas> Is it a null-terminated strong?
[22:09:37] * RandomFactor grimaces
[22:10:14] * chromas hamburgles
[22:10:51] <RandomFactor> "This came not even a month after melting permafrost caused a diesel tank at another of its facilities to collapse and spill 20,000 tons of diesel, turning a river red."
[22:11:19] <RandomFactor> I'm guessing after Red then Orange... Yellow is next?
[22:12:06] <chromas> The resulting rainbow will outweigh the environmental impact
[22:18:41] <RandomFactor> =submit too shy shy https://www.wired.com
[22:18:43] <exec> └─ 13Vantablack? Meh. Meet the Ultra-Black Vantafish | WIRED
[22:18:44] <systemd> Submitting "Vantablack? Meh. Meet the Ultra-Black Vantafish"...
[22:19:06] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Vantablack? Meh. Meet the Ultra-Black Vantafish" (22 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[22:20:29] <AzumaHazuki> ...jesus fuck. He actually said this https://soylentnews.org
[22:20:32] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Comments | Left/Right, what do you *really* think of the other side?
[22:20:38] <RandomFactor> =submit https://www.hackread.com
[22:20:40] <systemd> Submitting "VPN firm that claims zero logs policy leaks 20 million user logs"...
[22:20:40] <exec> └─ 13VPN firm that claims zero logs policy leaks 20 million user logs
[22:21:02] <driveby> lol
[22:21:02] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03VPN Firm That Claims Zero Logs Policy Leaks 20 Million User Logs" (20 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[22:22:44] <RandomFactor> Yeah, that's going to be a cesspool of an entry
[22:25:33] <driveby> https://i.4pcdn.org
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[22:26:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Global Methane Emissions Soar to Record High - https://sylnt.us - oh-fart!
[22:46:28] <nutherguy> "We always have a place for talented people,"
[22:46:37] <nutherguy> I haz talent for triggering people!!
[22:51:08] <Bytram> hare trigger?
[22:51:22] <Bytram> =yt hare trigger
[22:51:23] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Looney Tunes - “Hare Trigger” (1945) Opening Title & Closing (03:01; 27,567 views; 👍110 👎4)
[22:52:25] <Bytram> I figured there just *had* to be a Bugs Bunny cartoon with that title.
[22:57:34] <RandomFactor> =submit the weakest link https://www.theregister.com
[22:57:36] <systemd> Submitting "Twitter says hack of key staff led to celebrity, politician, biz account hijack mega-spree"...
[22:57:36] <exec> └─ 13Twitter says hack of key staff led to celebrity, politician, biz account hijack mega-spree • The Register
[22:57:47] <nutherguy> love me some looney tunes
[22:57:57] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Twitter Says Hack of Key Staff Led to Celebrity, Politician, Biz Account Hijack Mega-spree" (15 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:04:00] <RandomFactor> =submit trick or telescope https://gizmodo.com
[23:04:01] <exec> └─ 13NASA Targets October 2021 for James Webb Space Telescope Launch
[23:04:02] <systemd> Submitting "NASA Ominously Chooses Halloween 2021 to Launch Long-Delayed Space Telescope"...
[23:04:24] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03NASA Ominously Chooses Halloween 2021 to Launch Long-Delayed Space Telescope" (2 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:04:58] <nutherguy> ommmminously?
[23:05:19] <nutherguy> That's some kind of play on words - the dominant species on earth is omniverous
[23:05:21] <Bytram> =asub https://krebsonsecurity.com
[23:05:22] <systemd> Submitting "Who’s Behind Wednesday’s Epic Twitter Hack?"...
[23:05:23] <exec> └─ 13Who’s Behind Wednesday’s Epic Twitter Hack? — Krebs on Security
[23:05:44] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Who’s Behind Wednesday’s Epic Twitter Hack?" (30 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:05:46] <RandomFactor> Bad luck to walk under an Arianne 5 during liftoff
[23:06:42] <nutherguy> Remind me to try that one day, to prove your superstitions wrong
[23:08:16] <RandomFactor> Well, breaking a James Webb mirror is $10B bad luck
[23:09:00] <Bytram> nutherguy: "Do try walking under an Ariane 5 during liftoff" -- Consider yourself reminded. ;)
[23:09:55] <RandomFactor> https://www.youtube.com
[23:09:57] <systemd> ^ 03Let's Dismantle the Solar System!
[23:10:41] <Bytram> RandomFactor: How much for breaking ALL the mirrors? Part of the exorbitant cost is getting all of them to fit in the rocket's shroud and later expand on deployment.
[23:11:47] <RandomFactor> You know if scratch and even break the lens on a camera it still is likely to take fairly passable pictures. Have to wonder how much losing just one would actually do.
[23:14:01] <Bytram> Scratch the lens? Yes, it is not at the focal point, so it would slightly blur the image. Cracked/broken lens. Depends on the extent of the damage, but expect far from clear results.
[23:15:01] <RandomFactor> I saw shots from one that was thoroughly trashed. They weren't crisp, but they were still viable.
[23:15:29] <RandomFactor> it was really surprising how good they were looking at the lens and much better than I would have guessed
[23:15:37] <Bytram> As for the Webb telescope, we can already get blurry images from earth. Why spend $10B to "Do it in space"?
[23:16:18] <RandomFactor> Aliens on asteroids with a slingshot taking escape velocity shots at it?
[23:16:56] <Bytram> IIRC Webb is not going to asteroids, but to one of the Lagrange points.
[23:17:25] <RandomFactor> Maybe they started shooting at it years ago
[23:18:29] <RandomFactor> but more seriously - wouldn't the L2 have a bunch of junk (relatively speaking) in it anyway?
[23:19:08] <RandomFactor> seems like a good place to get randomly smacked and jossled
[23:20:01] <RandomFactor> s/jossled/jostled/
[23:20:03] <exec> <RandomFactor> seems like a good place to get randomly smacked and jostled
[23:20:28] <Bytram> HHGTTG: Space is big...
[23:20:40] <Bytram> =g HHGTTG Space is big
[23:20:41] <systemd> https://www.goodreads.com - Quote by Douglas Adams: “Space is big. You just won't believe how ...
[23:22:02] <RandomFactor> If you took everyone on earth and spread them evenly around the solar system they would have more space to themselves than the entire earth-moon system
[23:22:17] <RandomFactor> each
[23:23:34] <Bytram> RandomFactor: Simple math exercise... What's the fastest you've every driven a car? 120 mph? Pretty fast, right? How about riding in a commercial jet. Round numbers, that's about 650 MPH. Let's make it easy, call it 1,000 MPH. At that speed, how long would it take to go from the Earth to the Moon?
[23:24:11] <RandomFactor> it took 3 days on a rocket which leaves a jet in the dust
[23:24:41] * Bytram tries to visualize people being spread out... like some kind of jelly.
[23:24:46] <RandomFactor> At least months I would think without doing any math, but i'm probably way low
[23:24:58] <Bytram> exactly
[23:27:28] <Bytram> the Lagrange points might tend to accumulate "space junk", but it's still almost entirely empty. It's only in comparison to the vast emptiness of space that we can assert there is something there, but it is still mostly vacant compared to things here on Earth.
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[23:28:59] <Bytram> btw, in very round, approximate numbers, it's about ~250,000 miles from Earth to the Moon. (It varies quite a bit)
[23:30:45] <Bytram> that works out to ~1,000 hours flight at near Mach 1 speeds. 1,000 / 24 ==> ~41 days.
[23:31:12] <RandomFactor> so not way low.
[23:31:13] <Bytram> Each way.
[23:31:31] <Bytram> 80+ days round trip.
[23:31:41] <Bytram> =g around the world in 80 days
[23:31:42] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Around the World in Eighty Days - Wikipedia
[23:31:59] <RandomFactor> I usually expect to intuit low when dealing with space
[23:34:06] <Bytram> that's a big part of "Astronomical Accuracy" -- as a professor once explained in one of my astronomy courses, if your calculations come to within an order of magnitude, then it's worth looking at closer.
[23:36:01] <Bytram> IOW, space is so HUGE that one can do calculations based on orders of magnitude (forget the stuff after the decimal point) and that is actually a useful and practical way to take look at things in space!
[23:36:33] <RandomFactor> yep
[23:37:47] <Bytram> For a fascinating perspective on this, read up on the attempts to determine if light was instantaneous or had a fixed speed.
[23:38:15] <Bytram> Especially wrt calculating the orbits of Jupiter's moons.
[23:38:25] <Bytram> =g wikipedia speed of light
[23:38:26] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Speed of light - Wikipedia
[23:39:05] <RandomFactor> If you ever read the WhatIf strip by Randall Munroe, he uses this type of order-of-magnitude approximation routinely
[23:57:17] <RandomFactor> "Wax is a terrible adhesive" - Icarus