#soylent | Logs for 2020-06-24
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[00:06:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Toxic Methanol that Causes Blindness Found in Hand Sanitizers, FDA Warns - https://sylnt.us - not-just-in-california
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[02:16:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Trump Freezes Green Cards, Many Work Visas Until End of Year - https://sylnt.us - what-about-yellow-cards
[02:28:47] <chromas> https://www.washingtontimes.com
[02:28:47] <systemd> ^ 03Iowa finds no violations at Tyson plant with deadly outbreak
[02:28:48] <exec> └─ 13Iowa finds no violations at Tyson plant with deadly outbreak - Washington Times
[04:27:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Oracle’s BlueKai Tracks You Across the Web. That Data Spilled Online - https://sylnt.us - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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[06:35:48] <FatPhil> inz: the pub where we left the most expensive beer was Panema. some .rar whale from the US, which was pure fucking bollocks.
[06:37:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple Caters to China by Pulling Thousands of “Unlicensed” iPhone Games - https://sylnt.us - shakedown?
[06:42:01] <FatPhil> only hit one new pub, but we knew it was going to be a brutal crawl, and we had to stick to a well-trodden path.
[06:53:41] <inz> FatPhil, what can you expect from a place called "a fucking"
[06:57:49] <FatPhil> Ah, yes, the "Onko Panu?" joke
[06:58:47] <FatPhil> We only brought one bottle from .ee with us, and we left it at Panema as the staff there was just great.
[06:59:30] <FatPhil> They were trying to start a brewery for about 3 years.
[07:00:12] <FatPhil> When they finally bought the kit, and had it on show, a stress analyst said "you can't fill that, you'll collapse the floor"
[07:00:57] <FatPhil> And a bean-counter said "rebuilding the floor would cost more than 20 years profits"
[07:01:43] <FatPhil> Fortunately, the brewer was an olympic gold-medal winning twat, so I'm not shedding any tears.
[07:02:08] <FatPhil> well, I say "brewer", but I've never had anything that he's brewed, for obvious reasons.
[07:08:53] <FatPhil> I showed him the Finland section of a world beer book, the section I'd written, and he sneared at one of the best baltic porters in the world simply because it was made by Koff. When I asked him when he last had it, he said that he didn't remember having it.
[08:36:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple Gives Thumbs Up to Hey Email App After Update Rejection - https://sylnt.us - gotta-pay-that-vigorish
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[09:02:09] <inz> FatPhil, I remember my old man used to curse that koff makes one of the best porters there is, but its so very hard to get it in finland
[09:06:51] <FatPhil> it was better 20 years ago, they now use brewing sugars rather than being all malt, and it's lost the oiliness that made it so fantastic.
[10:20:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:20:50] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5276
[10:24:04] <Bytram> coffee++
[10:24:05] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5277
[10:26:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> =g'db Bytram
[10:26:06] * systemd provocatively evolves basket of vibro eggs from Bytram
[10:26:21] <Bytram> =gdb TheMightyBuzzard
[10:26:21] * systemd naturally embiggens a zfs volume of ultima stones with TheMightyBuzzard
[10:27:16] <Bytram> I gets eggs and you gets big rocks -- tie?
[10:28:21] <Bytram> how's the remodeling going? Getting reasonably close to done?
[10:30:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> no idea. nother day, nother setback
[10:33:00] <Bytram> sorry to hear that... really!
[10:33:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> not a huge one today but it means a morning of shopping instead of a morning of working
[10:33:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> needs moar nicotine
[10:34:06] <Bytram> gnawed
[10:44:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, gonna get me some vidya in before the stores open
[10:48:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Guinness Reverses Decision to Strip Billy Mitchell’s Pac-Man and Donkey Kong Records - https://sylnt.us - is-pluto-a-planet-or-not?
[11:08:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Oracle's BlueKai Tracks You Across the Web. That Data Spilled Online - https://sylnt.us - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[11:30:27] <boru> "Distrust China and Russia! They are your enemy!"
[11:39:53] <FatPhil> red man bad
[11:40:18] <boru> Which one is the red man? Russia?
[11:47:55] <FatPhil> whichever one gets yanks in a flap
[12:00:50] <FatPhil> #weather
[12:00:52] <MrPlow> Pärnu mnt 67a, 10131 Tallinn, Estonia - Today: "Clear throughout the day." 73/56F, Humidity: 65%, Precip: 0%, Wind ~5mph. Thu: "Clear throughout the day." 74/56F, Humidity: 65%, Precip: 0%, Wind ~6mph. Fri: "Clear throughout the day." 76/60F, Humidity: 65%, Precip: 0%, Wind ~6mph.
[12:01:18] <FatPhil> too damn hot, that's what the temperature is
[12:02:51] <Bytram> #weather Delhi
[12:03:33] <Bytram> #g google
[12:05:12] <Bytram> #weather boston, MA
[12:05:42] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Something wrong with your bot?
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[12:14:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake MrPlow
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[12:14:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup
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[12:17:17] <Bytram> #weather Delhi
[12:17:35] <Bytram> #weather Boston, MA
[12:17:45] <Bytram> #g google
[12:18:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, stop breaking the bot
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[12:18:19] <Bytram> #blame
[12:18:28] <Bytram> See! It wasn't me!
[12:18:33] <Bytram> ;)
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[12:19:05] <Bytram> Sorry, wasn't sure if it was what I'd done that broke it. Now I know
[12:19:11] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[12:19:28] <Bytram> #weather Boston, MA
[12:19:30] <MrPlow> Boston City Hall, 1 Congress St, Boston, MA 02201, USA - Today: "Humid and mostly cloudy throughout the day." 84/68F, Humidity: 82%, Precip: 29%, Wind ~7mph. Thu: "Partly cloudy throughout the day." 81/68F, Humidity: 61%, Precip: 2%, Wind ~6mph. Fri: "Rain in the afternoon." 79/67F, Humidity: 69%, Precip: 54%, Wind ~7mph.
[12:19:35] <Bytram> yay!
[12:19:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> sudo pkill -9 rustbot on beryllium if i'm not around to bounce him. he'll restart by himself
[12:20:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather delhi, india
[12:20:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, he's racis
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[12:20:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> will not fix. today.
[12:20:44] <Bytram> Ahh! Thank you very much! ^^^ How to restart MrPlow / rustbot
[12:20:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++ #smoke break
[12:20:47] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 778
[12:21:01] <Bytram> prolly too hot to handle
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[12:21:31] <Bytram> #fitectl status
[12:21:31] <MrPlow> #fite Bytram level: 12121, hp: 12131, weapon: 'pointy===============spear', armor: '...'
[12:32:33] <Bytram> break time
[12:55:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Leonardo's 'Quick Eye' May be Key to Mona Lisa's Magnetism - https://sylnt.us - fact-or-fiction
[13:11:37] <AzumaHazuki> arrrgh...bad, bad night
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[13:46:26] <Teckla> coffee++
[13:46:26] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5278
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[15:07:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - CERN Council Endorses Building Larger Supercollider - https://sylnt.us - end-of-the-universe
[15:49:44] <chromas> What happened to the one they've already got?
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[15:55:28] <SoyGuest271828> =asub https://phys.org
[15:55:29] <exec> └─ 13An experiment suggested by a Ph.D. student may rewrite chemistry textbooks
[15:55:35] <systemd> Submitting "An experiment suggested by a Ph.D. student may rewrite chemistry textbooks"...
[15:55:57] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03An Experiment Suggested by a Ph.D. Student May Rewrite Chemistry Textbooks" (29 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[15:56:30] <SoyGuest271828> =asub https://www.theverge.com
[15:56:31] <exec> └─ 13Olympus is getting out of the camera business - The Verge
[15:56:31] <systemd> Submitting "Olympus is selling camera business to VAIO owner"...
[15:56:53] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Olympus is Selling Camera Business to VAIO Owner" (1 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[16:19:37] <SoyGuest271828> =asub https://www.msn.com
[16:19:38] <systemd> Submitting "Senate Republicans target encryption with bill aimed at Apple, Facebook, other tech giants"...
[16:19:39] <exec> └─ 13Senate Republicans target encryption with bill aimed at Apple, Facebook, other tech giants
[16:20:00] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Senate Republicans Target Encryption With Bill Aimed at Apple, Facebook, Other Tech Giants" (11 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[16:39:31] <RandomFactor> https://aleteia.org
[16:39:32] <systemd> ^ 03Another botched restoration, this time on painting of the Immaculate Conception
[16:39:32] <exec> └─ 13Another botched restoration, this time on painting of the Immaculate Conception
[16:40:38] <Sulla> oof
[16:40:59] <RandomFactor> Yeah, that's ridiculously bad
[16:42:28] <Sulla> TheMightyBuzzard around?
[16:44:06] <RandomFactor> From chat above sounds like not, might have just been on mobile.
[16:44:58] <Sulla> Why are they restoring artwork anyways?
[16:45:02] <Sulla> sounds like risky business
[16:45:16] <RandomFactor> Privately owned. Guess the owner wanted to.
[16:46:10] <boru> Some public works are deteriorating, also.
[16:46:24] <boru> Plus the vatican have to spend all of that money somewhere.
[16:48:15] <RandomFactor> It was done by a furniture restorer. Seriously?
[16:48:28] <chromas> How does that even happen? Are they taking the paintings to kindergartners?
[16:49:01] <Sulla> I get like fixing the two thousand year old roman statues that are collapsing. In general I think that most work of cultural significance should probably be bought by the government or a museum for longterm preservation. Although I don't really know whether I would include the referenced Mary as that, but I don't know enough about it
[16:50:19] <chromas> They should train an ai to paint high quality copies
[16:50:32] <RandomFactor> I trained my scanner to do that
[16:52:33] <chromas> Yeah but does it have a robot arm or do you have to stroke it yourself?
[16:52:59] <RandomFactor> I just push its buttons.
[16:53:55] <RandomFactor> ok, sadly it is meeting time. Back to the coal mine. Hasta
[16:54:37] <RandomFactor> =submit https://aleteia.org
[16:54:38] <systemd> Submitting "Another botched restoration, this time on painting of the Immaculate Conception"...
[16:54:38] <exec> └─ 13Another botched restoration, this time on painting of the Immaculate Conception
[16:55:00] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Another Botched Restoration, This Time on Painting of the Immaculate Conception" (10 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[16:55:15] <chromas> from the premature-immaculation dept.
[16:59:45] <Sulla> ~submit https://www.nytimes.com
[16:59:55] <Sulla> #submit https://www.nytimes.com
[16:59:56] <MrPlow> Unable to find a summary for that page
[16:59:57] <exec> └─ 13Hospitals Sued to Keep Prices Secret. They Lost. - The New York Times
[17:08:59] <Bytram> whereto? https://t.co
[17:09:00] <systemd> ^ 03https://twitter.com/artnet/status/1275243437713960960/photo/1
[17:09:02] <exec> └─ 13https://twitter.com/artnet/status/1275243437713960960/photo/1
[17:16:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Role of Expectation in What We See is Stronger than Previously Thought, Study Finds - https://sylnt.us - I-see-what-you-didn't-do-there
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[17:45:46] <DECbot> Is it just me or is the latest journals sidebox missing from the site?
[17:46:56] <chromas> Same here
[17:47:09] <chromas> Must be time to bounce rehash
[17:47:15] * chromas pings Dr Bytram
[17:49:11] <Bytram> pong
[17:49:53] <chromas> Stuff seems to be missing from the web site. There was an email about missing CSS and stuff too
[17:50:06] * chromas says "stuff" a few more times and stuff
[17:50:24] <Bytram> =g Double Stuff
[17:50:24] <systemd> https://www.urbandictionary.com - Double Stuf - Urban Dictionary
[17:50:30] <Bytram> =g Double Stuff cookie
[17:50:31] <systemd> https://www.amazon.com - OREO Double Stuf Chocolate Sandwich Cookies ... - Amazon.com
[17:56:03] <Bytram> DECbot: chromas: I bounced the servers, but I do not (yet) see an improvement... trying something else... may take a bit
[18:01:59] <DECbot> Thanks
[18:03:19] <chromas> Maybe the cache is lying to us
[18:03:42] <DECbot> ooohhhh that dirty cache
[18:04:45] <DECbot> oh the editor/admin side is there a means to bypass the cache to test if that is true?
[18:05:02] <DECbot> *s/oh the/on the/g
[18:06:40] <chromas> Not sure
[18:07:21] <chromas> But I know I've gotta fix my newsfeed search script. Doing a full-text search for a single word keeps the database busy for the next 10 minutes apparently
[18:07:40] <DECbot> varnish has to be reading the site from somewhere
[18:08:32] <DECbot> I've got that problem with tt-rss on my home server. Switching RSS feeds takes forever
[18:09:50] <DECbot> Of course it's my fault. I'm running the site from an old 32 bit/1Gb Ram Jetway mobo with a single threaded Via CPU and I never prune the database.
[18:11:07] <chromas> I bet you're not even storing the feeds in mongodb
[18:13:13] * Bytram was hoping he had a tab open with a copy of the hope page in it so he could look at the source...
[18:13:33] <Bytram> chromas: DECbot: Do either of you have a copy?
[18:13:47] * chromas suspends desktop, music on laptop pauses
[18:14:11] * Bytram muses missing musics
[18:14:26] <chromas> A copy of the front page without the journal box?
[18:14:37] <Bytram> WITH the journal box
[18:14:39] <DECbot> not on this PC
[18:14:43] <Bytram> k
[18:15:30] <DECbot> chromas: nope, it was mysql but it updated to mariadb at some point along the way
[18:15:52] <chromas> from the not-webscale dept.
[18:16:00] <Bytram> The templates leave a "breadcrumb" trail of when each is entered and exited.
[18:16:45] <Bytram> If I can see the a copy of "View Source" from a previously-working page, I can prolly see what went worng
[18:23:14] <Bytram> we have a journal entry which has a description that is entirely non-ASCII
[18:23:39] <Bytram> we have a journal entry which has a description that is almost entirely non-ASCII (there IS a "?" at the end)
[18:24:08] * Bytram heads over to the #dev channel
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[18:29:00] <DECbot> makes me wonder which spambot hurked its code all over the journal
[18:30:24] <DECbot> I could be jumping the shark and it's just rehash breaking
[18:33:41] <SoyCow0339> Same for me, the slashbox for Journals is missing.
[18:33:52] <Bytram> we gots some 'strange' international chars in the description of some journal entries
[18:34:17] * Bytram is investigating... details in the #dev channel
[18:50:34] <chromas> Is there a page to list recent journal entries?
[18:57:11] <Sulla> Does that have something to do with newest JE window not showing up on the main page anymore for me?
[18:59:47] <chromas> Yeah; they're poking at it in #dev
[19:06:26] <Sulla> Dunno, its fun to mess with prod and make everyone crazy then just say you logged into the wrong session and laugh about it
[19:08:24] <chromas> Seems like the DB's getting stuck on some queries. Maybe it needs a reboot too
[19:10:48] <Sulla> Oh fun.
[19:18:21] * Bytram is not enjoying it terribly much atm
[19:25:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Original Segway is Officially Being Retired on July 15 - https://sylnt.us - couldn't-balance...the-books
[20:25:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Site is Having Problems with Most-Recent Journal Entries - https://sylnt.us - what-goes-up
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[20:55:10] <SoyCow0339> Possible clue in this post? https://soylentnews.org
[20:55:11] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | Site is Having Problems with Most-Recent Journal Entries
[20:55:11] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Comments | Site is Having Problems with Most-Recent Journal Entries
[21:04:29] <SoyCow0339> Prevoius comment didn't make it into the log file, it included the full URL to SN post 1012141
[21:36:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A "Hot Start" for Pluto May Have Allowed Early Formation of an Ocean - https://sylnt.us - Mickey-Mouse-conclusion?
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[23:26:33] <chromas> import TheMightyBuzzard;
[23:26:37] <chromas> http://www.phoronix.com
[23:26:38] <systemd> ^ 03Perl 7 Announced As Evolving Perl 5 With Modern Defaults - Phoronix ( https://www.phoronix.com )
[23:26:39] <exec> └─ 13Perl 7 Announced As Evolving Perl 5 With Modern Defaults - Phoronix
[23:27:13] * RandomFactor wonders about the available function calls.
[23:30:43] <chromas> Looks like it'll start out pretty much juts being perl 5 and evolve from there, while paying less attention to backward compatibility
[23:31:01] <chromas> so hang on to your calls
[23:31:11] * chromas deprecates
[23:46:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Twitter Terminates DDoSecrets, Falsely Claims it May Infect Visitors - https://sylnt.us - don't-go-there