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[00:06:56] <FatPhil> Are there 29000 zombies now walking around the USA?
[00:06:58] <FatPhil> https://www.corona.help
[00:07:00] <systemd> ^ 03United States coronavirus information and stats
[00:07:02] <exec> └─ 13United States coronavirus information and stats
[00:07:19] <FatPhil> Or 29000 Jesuses? Or Lazaruses?
[00:15:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - OpenZFS Removes "Slave" Terminology from Codebase - https://sylnt.us - who's-the-boss?
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[00:19:46] <kyonko> #CHAZ
[00:20:07] <kyonko> it's 2020, where is my autonomous baby
[00:23:24] <FatPhil> a self-driving baby? how does that work?
[00:23:56] <AzumaHazuki> you put it in one of those round-topped wheelie tray things
[00:31:55] <kyonko> FatPhil, a self replicating baby!
[00:32:44] <kyonko> this baby comes from terahertz lazers
[00:33:05] <kyonko> lol at the bose einstein condensate in orbit
[01:21:43] <kyonko> I just googlebooked "raz simone" and bam, its all there
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[02:21:16] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki++ And make sure you have closed the door to the basement.
[02:21:16] <Bender> karma - azumahazuki: 31
[02:21:30] <AzumaHazuki> LOL
[02:31:14] <Bytram> =yt x5kMdEh1v0I
[02:31:15] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Butt Cleaning Robot - Short Version (31)
[02:31:32] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: ^^^ (short form)
[02:32:03] <AzumaHazuki> ye gods
[02:32:50] <Bytram> https://www.youtube.com
[02:32:52] <systemd> ^ 03Butt Cleaning Robot - No More Toilet Paper! - Coronavirus Solution
[02:32:52] <exec> └─ 13Butt Cleaning Robot - No More Toilet Paper! - Coronavirus Solution - YouTube
[02:37:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Detect Unexpected Widespread Structures Near Earth's Core - https://sylnt.us - good-vibrations
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[04:36:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SpaceX Targeting Starlink + Ride-Share Launch SAT June 13 at 0521 EDT (0921 UTC) - https://sylnt.us - renew-reuse-recycle
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[07:26:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Magnetically Powered Brain Implant Doesn't Require a Battery or Wired Power Supply - https://sylnt.us - no-foil-cap-for-you!
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[09:48:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - BAM15 Mitochondrial Uncoupler Could Treat Obesity, Diabetes, and Fatty Liver Disease - https://sylnt.us - losing-is-winning
[10:53:12] <jman> Yikes, someone should moderate Anonymous Coward's post in the Ultra Thin Camera Lenses thread...
[10:53:31] <jman> By moderate, I mean get it the hell out of the database.
[11:07:43] * boru chuckles.
[11:07:51] <boru> I haven't seen GNAA bots for years.
[11:07:55] <FatPhil> Someone spammed it out of sight
[11:08:07] <jman> Yeah!
[11:08:38] <boru> I only see one post.
[11:08:38] <FatPhil> GNAA is just noise, quite easily ignored
[11:08:40] <jman> Oh, that was me. Have never actually moderated before. Does choosing spam automatically remove it from vie?
[11:08:58] <jman> s/vie?/view?/
[11:08:59] <exec> <jman> Oh, that was me. Have never actually moderated before. Does choosing spam automatically remove it from view?
[11:09:39] <FatPhil> TheMightyBuzzard probably knows the exact details, but anyone who choses to click on a spam-modded posts gets what they deserve.
[11:11:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> modding something Spam gives the comment a -1 to its score, the commenter a -10 to their karma, and the ip address a -10 to its karma
[11:12:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> thas all
[11:12:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> but my coffee cup's empty and i hear the siren song of a cigarette calling me from outside, so back in five
[11:13:08] <FatPhil> whether -1 posts are shown or expanded is a user preference, so nothing more can be said.
[11:13:53] <jman> Cool. So by accident I went straight for the nuclear option. Offtopic, Flamebait and Troll would have also applied.
[11:20:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> Spam's the proper one if a post is spam. cause you can't downmod a comment that's already at -1 further.
[11:22:18] <jman> I recall one of Johnny Carson's wacky end-of-show guests who had built a "Smoker's Hat". It had fans to suck up the fumes so you wouldn't have to leave the room. I pictured the user eventually having a cranium full of smoke particles.
[11:25:37] <jman> Hmmm, same comment in the Multi-Watt laser story. Someone's been busy!
[11:25:45] <FatPhil> gnaa tends to be copy-pasta, and spam will often be appropriate.
[11:26:43] <FatPhil> and indeed - copypasta, you did the right thing.
[11:27:19] <FatPhil> However, don't get too trigger happy, it is supposed to be the nuclear option only for the very edge cases.
[11:28:55] <jman> No worries. Usually only add comments, not moderate. That was offensive though.
[11:29:01] <FatPhil> If someone keep posting the same tired old wrong argument in a thread, then that would just be 0 disagree or -1 redundant (unless you think he's trolling or trying to derail discussions, in which case -1 Troll or -1 Flamebait)
[11:29:22] <FatPhil> Thanks, you did the right thing.
[11:30:20] <jman> Oops, mate out of town, time to feed the animals (and get more coffee)...
[11:31:34] <FatPhil> Have a good one!
[11:36:31] <FatPhil> #weather
[11:36:32] <MrPlow> Pärnu mnt 67a, 10131 Tallinn, Estonia - Today: "Clear throughout the day." 67/50F, Humidity: 59%, Precip: 4%, Wind ~11mph. Sun: "Clear throughout the day." 67/57F, Humidity: 64%, Precip: 3%, Wind ~10mph. Mon: "Partly cloudy throughout the day." 69/59F, Humidity: 76%, Precip: 16%, Wind ~10mph.
[11:36:58] <FatPhil> what's that in pounds sterling?
[11:38:10] <boru> #weather Hallstatt
[11:38:11] <MrPlow> Oberer Marktplatz 53, 4830 Hallstatt, Austria - Today: "Possible light rain in the evening." 83/56F, Humidity: 64%, Precip: 44%, Wind ~2mph. Sun: "Light rain throughout the day." 65/55F, Humidity: 90%, Precip: 83%, Wind ~2mph. Mon: "Rain throughout the day." 60/53F, Humidity: 94%, Precip: 98%, Wind ~2mph.
[11:39:50] <FatPhil> ooof, 83's about 150 degrees kelvin!
[11:40:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> GNAA stuff is explicitly in the moderation guidelines, by name even, as Spam-appropriate
[11:40:32] <boru> But what about Rankin!
[11:40:59] <boru> #weather Hallstatt --use-real-units
[11:41:00] <MrPlow> Could not get geo coordinates for 'Hallstatt --use-real-units'.
[11:41:03] <boru> Feh.
[11:41:35] <FatPhil> There's a reaumur that Rankin is just a hoax
[11:47:23] <FatPhil> Ugh, how much sycophantic reacharound and cocksucking is there going to be in QT8? It arrives in our cinemas next week.
[11:56:14] <inz> Is that a wish or a worry?
[11:57:13] <FatPhil> I don't care, I ain't gonna see it. I think he's a horrifically overrated director.
[11:58:15] <FatPhil> So I guess it's a wish, and I'm sure it will get all the QT fans all moist.
[11:59:13] <FatPhil> They can then pat themselves on the back for loving such a great director, as all of the lovies think he's such a great director.
[11:59:38] <FatPhil> He's groundbreaking in how much he can copy from other people and get away with.
[12:06:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Twitter Deletes Over 170,000 Accounts Tied to Chinese Propaganda Efforts - https://sylnt.us - network-analysis
[12:25:16] <jman> Seems they've hit several posts. Is there some sort of db grep script that could auto-moderate based on keywords, or would the danger of wrongly flagging a legitimate comment override its value?
[12:37:17] <FatPhil> there is a database of known spam sequences, one problem with that is that it just invites gaming the system
[12:41:20] <jman> Where is R. Daneel Olivaw when you really need him? ;)
[12:43:07] <FatPhil> 3000 years in the future?
[12:44:05] <jman> Hopefully truly useful AI won't take that long to develop.
[12:44:37] <jman> Eventually humans are going to evolve themselves out of a job.
[12:46:16] <FatPhil> https://www.youtube.com
[12:46:18] <systemd> ^ 03Humans Need Not Apply
[12:46:18] <exec> └─ 13Humans Need Not Apply - YouTube
[12:49:22] <jman> Asimov had a good one where the war was going bad, and targeting computers in the missiles was really expensive. Got to where it was cheaper just to have a human in the nosecone.
[12:50:14] <jman> s/was really/were really/
[12:50:15] <exec> <jman> Asimov had a good one where the war was going bad, and targeting computers in the missiles were really expensive. Got to where it was cheaper just to have a human in the nosecone.
[12:52:39] <FatPhil> I'm quite a fan of Asimov, that's quite a funny twist.
[12:53:09] <FatPhil> Nothing new, just in a new dress.
[12:54:05] <jman> I enjoy nuts'n'bolts myself. The trinity of Asimov/Clarke/Heinlein. Have tried Foundation three times though. Just can't finish. Not sure why. Got all the way to book two last time.
[13:03:28] <jman> Good video. Nice summary of some of the scarier aspects of skiffy stuff I've been reading since a kid.
[13:09:08] <Bytram> jman: IIRC, there were attempts to use a pigeon as a 'targeting computer' for missiles
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[13:29:51] <FatPhil> but it kept aiming for my nuts
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[14:22:04] <GrandFireWizard> It's quite good for the first few books, Bytram
[14:22:28] <Bytram> Sry? what is?
[14:22:43] <GrandFireWizard> Same could be said for the Axis trilogy. Read the first three. Skip the rest.
[14:22:47] <GrandFireWizard> Foundation.
[14:23:04] <GrandFireWizard> it took me a few tries to read the series :)
[14:23:23] <Bytram> agreed, read 1st 3 books as a teenager
[14:24:16] <Bytram> 1st 3 foundation books, that is
[14:26:16] <GrandFireWizard> what is "nuts'n'bolts"?
[14:26:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Internet Archive Ends “Emergency Library” Early to Appease Publishers - https://sylnt.us - never-let-them-see-fear
[14:26:55] <Bytram> that was jman, not me. I dunno
[14:29:23] <GrandFireWizard> hmm, sorry, I seem to have read two lines at the same time :)
[14:30:01] <Bytram> the eyes have it!
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[14:32:01] <GrandFireWizard> =gday AzumaHazuki
[14:32:02] * systemd thoughtfully yeets a wad of electropop past AzumaHazuki
[14:32:41] <AzumaHazuki> yeet and yoink might be two opposites, like come and go
[14:32:54] <AzumaHazuki> or give and take. "the Lord yeeteth, and the Lord yoinketh away"
[14:35:51] <Bytram> ROFL!
[14:36:19] <Bytram> weren't they some stoners from the 80s?
[14:39:01] <GrandFireWizard> I've never seen anyone yeet irl yet..
[14:42:49] <Bytram> =g yeet
[14:42:50] <systemd> https://www.urbandictionary.com - Yeet - Urban Dictionary
[14:47:32] <Bytram> Looks like I have not seen it, either
[14:59:22] <Bytram> =cite http://dx.doi.org
[14:59:25] <systemd> <p><b>Journal Reference</b>:<br/><b>The Megamaser Cosmology Project. XIII. Combined Hubble Constant Constraints - IOPscience</b>, <cite>The Astrophysical Journal Letters</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.3847/2041-8213/ab75f0">10.3847/2041-8213/ab75f0</a>)</p>
[15:03:59] <Bytram> whereto? https://www.seattletimes.com
[15:03:59] <systemd> ^ 03Fox News runs digitally altered images in coverage of Seattle’s protests, Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone ( https://www.seattletimes.com )
[15:07:13] <Bytram> =g site:soylentnews.org fox news entertainment
[15:07:14] <systemd> https://soylentnews.org - Fox News Anchor Sues Hasbro over ... - SoylentNews Comments
[15:07:29] <Bytram> =g site:soylentnews.org fox news entertainment -Hasbro
[15:07:30] <systemd> https://soylentnews.org - Disney to Buy 21st Century Fox Assets for $52.4 Billion in Historic ...
[15:08:14] <Bytram> =g site:soylentnews.org fox news entertainment -Hasbro -Disney
[15:08:14] <systemd> https://soylentnews.org - Abandoned North Wilkesboro Speedway Returns to Life in iRacing ...
[15:09:08] <Bytram> =g fox news ruled entertainment
[15:09:09] <systemd> https://www.foxnews.com - Beauty queen, a Trump fan, dethroned after conservative views ...
[15:14:12] <nutherguy> Got your coronavirus vaccination yet?
[15:14:17] <nutherguy> https://www.firstcompanion.net
[15:32:40] <AzumaHazuki> are you aware that the cornaviridae are a large family and nCov-19 is only one member?
[15:51:42] <RandomFactor> Pale skinned Thunberga greta isn't able to build a web. https://www.ctvnews.ca
[15:51:42] <systemd> ^ 03New spider species named after Greta Thunberg
[15:52:37] <RandomFactor> isn't 20% of the common cold coronavirus based?
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[15:54:24] <inz> rnd, wikipedia suggests 15, but same ballpark
[15:55:00] <RandomFactor> Just source variation presumably. I don't remember where i heard that first.
[15:56:43] <RandomFactor> So i'll concede the 5% :_)
[15:58:53] <RandomFactor> r/chaz has been banned from Reddit
[15:58:53] <RandomFactor> This subreddit was banned due to being unmoderated
[16:02:01] <RandomFactor> =asub https://www.ctvnews.ca
[16:02:02] <systemd> Submitting "New spider species named after Greta Thunberg"...
[16:02:24] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03New Spider Species Named After Greta Thunberg" (9 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[16:07:11] <RandomFactor> =cite 10.1038/s41586-020-2163-6
[16:07:13] <systemd> <p><b>Journal Reference</b>:<br/>Tohru M. Takahashi, Genshiro A. Sunagawa, Shingo Soya, <em>et al</em>. <b>A discrete neuronal circuit induces a hibernation-like state in rodents</b>, <cite>Nature</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.1038/s41586-020-2163-6">10.1038/s41586-020-2163-6</a>)</p>
[16:29:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> curse you, programmable led fan! your addictiveness is cutting into my fishing time!
[16:33:01] <RandomFactor> I knew you to be a lot of things, but a flasher?
[16:33:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> no sense letting a perfectly good trench coat go to waste
[16:33:50] <RandomFactor> I really need to wash mine
[16:34:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... if i strobed the fan lights at the same speed as the fan's rpms it should look like it's standing still
[16:34:50] <RandomFactor> The led is in morse of course of course?
[16:35:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> the ring on the outside could be a vu meter
[16:36:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> already got temps and everything useful showing on conky, this's only useful for fun
[16:37:49] <RandomFactor> Speaking of fans, i need to go order a silent one for upstairs. 130mm or so i think, i'll have to check.
[16:37:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'currently doing a disco impression
[16:38:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> pshaw. if it don't sound like a vacuum cleaner, you're not cooling it enough.
[16:38:58] <RandomFactor> This is actually on a minifridge
[16:39:16] <RandomFactor> but it's stupid loud. Only useful in a loud car or something.
[16:40:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> does the minifridge run linux?
[16:40:44] <RandomFactor> Intercooler Of Things?
[16:41:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> intercooler? that what fonzie uses when he wants to watch porn?
[16:42:05] <RandomFactor> Robin Williams breakout - The finger vs the thumb
[16:46:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Face Masks Don’t Even Have to Work Especially Well to be Effective - https://sylnt.us - every-little-bit-helps
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[17:14:24] <RandomFactor> https://www.sciencealert.com
[17:14:24] <systemd> ^ 03Human Eggs Seem to Exhibit Preferences For Particular People's Sperm, Study Shows
[17:14:25] <exec> └─ 13Human Eggs Seem to Exhibit Preferences For Particular People's Sperm, Study Shows
[17:14:50] <RandomFactor> shrug
[17:14:59] <RandomFactor> =submit https://www.sciencealert.com
[17:15:01] <exec> └─ 13Human Eggs Seem to Exhibit Preferences For Particular People's Sperm, Study Shows
[17:15:05] <systemd> Submitting "Human Eggs Seem to Exhibit Preferences For Particular People's Sperm, Study Shows"...
[17:15:26] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Human Eggs Seem to Exhibit Preferences for Particular People's Sperm, Study Shows" (19 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[17:16:32] <RandomFactor> Ewwww https://gizmodo.com
[17:16:34] <exec> └─ 13Rare, Nearly Extinct Parasite May Have Resurfaced in Vietnam
[17:16:34] <systemd> ^ 03Rare, Nearly Extinct Parasite May Have Resurfaced in Vietnam, Doctors Say
[17:18:46] <RandomFactor> " how the man may have gotten infested in the first place. He reportedly ate lots of raw fish and crabs."
[17:18:56] <RandomFactor> always hating on sushi
[17:20:36] <AzumaHazuki> you eats the fish, you takes the risk
[17:20:51] * AzumaHazuki loves the stuff, but is careful before biting in
[17:21:59] <RandomFactor> I like it m'self, but not something I particularly seek out usually
[17:25:54] <RandomFactor> Wait...is this what you were talking about @themightybuzzard https://www.theregister.com
[17:25:55] <systemd> ^ 03Someone got so fed up with GE fridge DRM – yes, fridge DRM – they made a whole website on how to bypass it
[17:25:56] <exec> └─ 13Someone got so fed up with GE fridge DRM – yes, fridge DRM – they made a whole website on how to bypass it • The Register
[17:31:32] <RandomFactor> Covid has taught me a new word "anosmia"
[17:38:01] <AzumaHazuki> fucking fridge DRM?
[17:58:23] <RandomFactor> Well, we have printer and coffeemaker DRM, i suppose it makes sense
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[18:18:55] <inz> Just watch it, next up is WC and TP need to match
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[18:27:43] <Bytram> =yt icky-yucku sushi
[18:27:44] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Icky Yucky Sushi - Pat Donohue February 4, 2016 (03:37)
[18:28:32] * RandomFactor thinks briefly about WC/TP DRM and those fancy schmancy Smart Bidets
[18:29:56] <RandomFactor> I think we've plumbed the depths of this topic
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[19:05:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Record-Crushing Battery Lasts 1.2 Million Miles in Electric Cars - https://sylnt.us - lots-of-juice
[20:00:20] <RandomFactor> YES!!! I figured out a birthday present for mom.
[20:15:19] <chromas> Fridge DRM isn't completely new. GE has RFID tags on their water filters so you have to buy theirs and replace them whenever it says to
[20:15:53] <chromas> Connects to the internet and you can use a mobile application to get the alerts
[20:17:04] <chromas> For a few 10s, you can get a pass-through that doesn't filter and then take off its tag and carefully align it with the sensor so it thinks you're using the blank all the time and doesn't complain
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[20:35:16] <RandomFactor> I'm going to guess the tag will soon be integrated in such a way that it can't be removed in this fashion.
[20:42:22] <AzumaHazuki> this is rent-seeking at its worst
[21:12:03] <chromas> How do I get a job creating marketing graphics? https://m.media-amazon.com
[21:37:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Elite Gamers Share Mental Toughness with Top Athletes, Study Finds - https://sylnt.us - elite-dangerous
[22:38:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> 8008135++
[22:38:09] <Bender> karma - 8008135: 146
[23:57:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Distance Measurements Bolster Challenge to Basic Model of Universe - https://sylnt.us - size-matters