#soylent | Logs for 2020-05-20
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[00:47:55] <nutherguy> Windows really sucks
[00:48:28] <nutherguy> Dear wifey permitted some kind of update to run on her Win7 Home Premium machine, for some unexplainable reason
[00:48:35] <nutherguy> Win7 is dead now
[00:49:12] <chromas> Sounds like your cue to install Linux on it
[00:49:56] <nutherguy> I had her on Ubuntu for a couple of years - I don't know if I can get her back on Linux or not
[00:50:13] <chromas> Do it. Just make it look like Windows and don't tell'er
[00:50:40] <nutherguy> I'm sure you know how tough tech support is when you're supporting family - most especially the spouse
[00:51:58] <nutherguy> part of problem is, she's too sophisticated to bullshit, too unsophisticated to understand all the bullshit behind Microsoft forcing their spyware on everyone
[00:56:46] <chromas> Put linux on it and she can still get the bullshit she likes from systemd :D
[01:01:40] <nutherguy> MX and Antix are lacking systemd ;^)
[01:03:57] <AzumaHazuki> Artix as well. It's Arch minux systemd
[01:04:34] <AzumaHazuki> until gentoo gets their python shit together in one (snakeskin?) bag I'm back on it for a bit. it...let me install the old GTK2 version of xfce, docky, and the old Mint themes. I finally have my old desktop back
[01:04:35] <chromas> Finally got around to reading that systemd 10 years later blog post. Those guys are dickwagons
[01:05:21] <chromas> Maybe xfce should be ported to qt :D
[01:05:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> just make sure you have sshd installed and starting at boot. no password, key only. makes remote tech support a breeze, relatively.
[01:07:46] <chromas> ssh++
[01:07:46] <Bender> karma - ssh: 7
[01:08:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> i had to remote troubleshoot a webcam issue from 500 miles away for a guy who barely knew what linux was and didn't know his username. still more fun than windows.
[01:08:28] * TheMightyBuzzard notes that this was last week
[01:10:33] <chromas> Did you actually fix it though?
[01:10:46] <chromas> Did you try turning it off and on again?
[01:12:54] <AzumaHazuki> chromas: i would not mind a competent qt port of xfce one bit
[01:13:19] <AzumaHazuki> gtk has gone ratshit insane. i wonder if they're going to fix anything in 4.x or just double down
[01:14:14] <chromas> It'd be great if gimp was ported over :D
[01:14:20] <chromas> but that's what krita's for
[01:14:39] <chromas> but it could finally be the gunome toolkit
[01:17:51] <chromas> You know what's worse than gtk 3 though? All the websites making avatars into circles
[01:23:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, no but i could tell him definitively that the hardware was not even being detected anymore, thus he needed a new one.
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[01:45:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft is bringing Linux GUI apps to Windows 10 - https://sylnt.us - year-of-linux-on-the-desktop
[01:48:15] <AzumaHazuki> why don't they just throw windows away and release their own distro? :v
[01:48:39] <kyonko> uwu
[01:48:53] <kyonko> you don't want to know how bad windows 7 is with cygwin
[01:49:00] <kyonko> but if you must, its there
[01:49:48] <kyonko> Makefiles work
[01:50:08] <kyonko> but don't you ever go about making millions of ntfs directories and files
[01:50:16] <kyonko> you will destroy the OS
[01:50:27] <kyonko> :>
[01:56:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, that's probably the plan. just spread out enough that they don't butthurt everyone by doing it all at once and making all the third party shit they paid for worthless.
[01:57:23] <AzumaHazuki> i will laugh so hard i pee a little if that happens
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[02:00:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> who knows, maybe it'll mean serious progress on wine
[02:04:05] <GrandFireWizard> they could just create Windows Containers for Linux so old programs, even back to Win 3.1, work. They probably won't do that anytime soon as people will ask why they need Windows 10 at all.
[02:04:47] <kyonko> gaming
[02:04:56] <kyonko> its a disease
[02:05:09] <kyonko> my neighbor makes sex noises gaming
[02:05:25] <kyonko> also when watching ufc
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[03:29:55] <GrandFireWizard> time to invest in soundproofing
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[04:06:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - English and Welch "Alcohol-Fuelled" Offenders to be Tagged, Released - https://sylnt.us - scarlet-letter
[05:21:54] <AzumaHazuki> so does this mean Eth gets a bomb collar? :D
[05:22:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> explosive or "da bomb"?
[05:22:50] <AzumaHazuki> explosive. more like deflagrative in his case, given he's all slimy, but yeah
[05:23:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> i ask cause explosives are cheaper than fashion and we have a limited budget.
[05:24:58] <AzumaHazuki> seems a waste of a little C4, but history will judge us kindly :)
[05:26:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - English and Welsh "Alcohol-Fuelled" Offenders to be Tagged, Released - https://sylnt.us - scarlet-letter
[05:26:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, black powder's cheap and nitrated stuff's even cheaper.
[05:26:28] <AzumaHazuki> ugh...i need to sleep and can't. it's a vicious cycle. get too tired, and the brain starts replaying flashbacks across the inner surfaces of your skull
[05:26:32] <AzumaHazuki> and good luck sleeping them
[05:28:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'why we have nature documentaries. soothing and generally not terribly exciting. interesting, yes, exciting no.
[05:28:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> specially ole jacques cousteau.
[05:29:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> or bob ross reruns, though those make me laugh too much.
[05:32:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> speaking of, i should give it another go myself. gotta be up in 4.5h
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[06:27:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Cryptocurrency Hardware Wallets Can Get Hacked Too - https://sylnt.us - possession-is-9/10-of-pwnership
[06:42:22] <FatPhil> https://www.bbc.co.uk
[06:42:25] <systemd> ^ 03Trump says US topping virus cases is an 'honour'
[06:44:34] <FatPhil> "you know when you say that we lead in cases, that's because we have more testing than anybody else.". Apparently being 38th in tests per capita is "more tests"
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[06:50:19] <chromas> We just don't count those other countries as people :)
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[06:58:47] <carny> he has the best words
[06:58:54] <carny> he said so on tv once
[06:59:04] <inz> But isn't some of the testing done with broken tests from Obama administration
[06:59:56] <FatPhil> from Obama's broken CDC?
[07:00:05] <FatPhil> need to tear down the CDC ,obviously
[07:00:34] <FatPhil> chromas: well, just above you in the table was Belarus, so you have a point ;-)
[07:03:56] <inz> FatPhil, but US has tested most per capita of the countries with >150M sheeples
[07:22:49] <FatPhil> All hail the mighty Hypnotrump!
[07:23:39] <boru> Is covid19 still a big thing over there?
[07:25:48] <inz> More like a microscopic thing (yeah yeah, the virus is called SARS-CoV-2, yadayada)
[07:26:03] <FatPhil> I'm pleased to see our "Baltic bubble" is a'growin. Finland will be welcomed with open arms at four times arms length very soon.
[07:29:23] <FatPhil> Stats are promising, we don't appear to have significant follow-through at all after reducing the almost-Sweden-levels-of-nonexistence restrictions.
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[08:45:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Cell-Tower Attacks by Idiots who Claim 5G Spreads COVID-19 Reportedly Hit US - https://sylnt.us - the-stupidity-it-hurts-it-burns!
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[09:31:17] <SoyCow5817> Ooga booga.
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[10:44:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:44:24] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5226
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[11:06:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Suffer Headaches when Penguin Poop Turns into 'Truly Intense' Laughing Gas - https://sylnt.us - Tux's-Turds dept.<br/>from the 🐧💨
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[11:34:10] <FatPhil> The X-axis on this chart is glorious: https://cdn.vox-cdn.com
[11:36:43] <chromas> Looks like they got it all sorted out
[11:38:16] <Bytram> chromas: well, sort of.
[11:38:23] <FatPhil> danger, danger - curve NOT flattened, it's all downhill!
[11:39:03] <Bytram> Under this administration? Surely you must be mistaken!
[11:39:37] <Bytram> They would *never* allow it to be known to be otherwise!
[11:39:38] <FatPhil> Miss Taken is over there, and my name's *not* Shirley!
[11:40:05] <Bytram> Roger, Oever
[11:41:23] <chromas> What's your raster, Victor?
[11:42:45] <FatPhil> Jaz and Garry Mott recently posted photos to Facebook from a holiday
[11:42:45] <FatPhil> destination about two hours from their home in Victoria, Australia. It
[11:42:45] <FatPhil> wasn't long before police officers were on their doorstep, presenting
[11:42:45] <FatPhil> them with roughly 2,000 euros' worth of fines for breaching the ban on
[11:42:45] <FatPhil> non-essential travel. It turned out that the couple's holiday spot was actually two hours
[11:42:48] <FatPhil> and 10 months away - that is, the photos were taken last June. The
[11:42:51] <FatPhil> police have a review procedure in place, so the Motts appear to be off
[11:42:53] <FatPhil> the hook for the fines. However, Jaz reported that officers, after
[11:42:56] <FatPhil> being informed of their error, still told her not to post any more
[11:42:58] <FatPhil> photos on Facebook. They stressed that 'errors will be made'.
[11:44:41] <Bytram> ==> "more errors will have been made"
[11:45:07] <FatPhil> I know - cops say the funniest things!
[11:46:03] <Bytram> So many interesting verb forms can arise when time travel will have become a thing. New words, too: somewhen!
[11:46:44] <Bytram> coffee++ time. biab
[11:46:44] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5227
[11:47:15] <FatPhil> I'm coining "somewhy" for when you don't know the reasons for something.
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[11:48:46] <Bytram> Timing is everything
[11:48:55] <chromas> Well dang, I was about to have been going to be coined it first
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[12:59:08] <FatPhil> Woo woo! Estonia's first (onshore) Burger King opened today!!!!!!
[13:00:03] <FatPhil> (There was one on one of the FI-EE ferries since ~2018)
[13:02:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> dude, if you're excited about burger king, estonia needs some serious help in the burger arena
[13:04:54] <inz> Finland's first McDonalds shuttered 5 years ago :(
[13:05:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> they're fairly good as far as big chain fast food burgers go but they're absolute garbage compared to a good fast food burger place (almost always single site places but occasionally a few scattered around the area)
[13:05:50] <Bytram> =g 5 guys burgers
[13:05:51] <systemd> https://www.fiveguys.com - Five Guys
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[13:08:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> burger king's better. 5 guys is amazingly overrated
[13:10:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> they value trendy atmosphere over making their burgers taste as good as they can
[13:15:46] <inz> I prefer making my own, too bad that beyond meat stopped consumer sales after just few months
[13:15:53] <inz> (in Finland)
[13:24:15] <Bytram> I don't have many venues that I've tried, but I found 5 guys to be better than what I had at BK. Neither compares, of course, to what comes fresh off a bar-b-cue!
[13:24:40] <Bytram> !uid
[13:24:40] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 10754, owned by Melvindiuts
[13:25:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake inz
[13:25:05] * MrPlow smakes inz upside the head with a meatslap
[13:25:24] <FatPhil> inz: which maccy's was that? Iso Roba?
[13:25:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> nice. apropos
[13:25:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> VEGETABLES ARE NOT BURGERS
[13:26:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> vegetables are the things burgers eat before they get turned into burgers.
[13:26:48] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Au Contraire! Soylent Green!
[13:27:00] <Bytram> =)
[13:27:05] <inz> FatPhil, Tampere central square
[13:27:05] <FatPhil> I think Wendy's is my favourite big chain burger, BK next, everything else is pretty terrible.
[13:27:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 2 Dams Fail in Michigan, Forcing Thousands to Evacuate - https://sylnt.us
[13:28:01] <Bytram> FatPhil: agreed -- McDs? Blech!
[13:28:12] <Bytram> gtg; phone call
[13:28:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> hardee's if you can find one. quite good for big chain fast food burgers
[13:28:35] <FatPhil> inz: I normally use their cheezeburgers for absorbant material whilst on pub crawls, and I've done loads of pub crawls around Tampere, so there's a chance I've eaten there.
[13:28:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you tell them to not put any mayo/mustard/ketchup/whatever on the burger anyway.
[13:29:20] <FatPhil> mayo has never belonged on burgers
[13:29:23] <FatPhil> or chips
[13:29:28] <FatPhil> or basically anywhere
[13:29:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you don't they'll put so much you can't even find the burger guts
[13:30:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> TR feels the same about mayo, except to the point that he'll starve to death rather than eat something with mayo on it.
[13:31:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> you'd think i told him i took a shit in them and killed his puppy when i told him deviled eggs have always had mayo in them.
[13:31:47] <FatPhil> my only no-control-over-any-orifice experience was due to mayo on a fast food burger.
[13:32:12] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[13:32:14] <FatPhil> tea++
[13:32:14] <Bender> karma - tea: 620
[13:32:56] <inz> I prefer my non-burgers with all sorts of mayos
[13:33:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://torrentfreak.com Trolling done well guys, kudos.
[13:33:02] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[13:33:27] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[13:33:39] <inz> Too much chilli too spicy chilli sauce is the worst
[13:33:48] <inz> s/ chilli//
[13:33:49] <exec> <inz> Too much too spicy chilli sauce is the worst
[13:34:02] <AzumaHazuki> this is a difficult threshold to cross, though
[13:34:07] <AzumaHazuki> at least, with a little exposure training
[13:34:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, gambate!
[13:34:50] * AzumaHazuki would drink Sriracha right from the bottle if it weren't so salty
[13:34:51] <inz> I tried to train myself, and I was able to hold the burger in for the required 10 minutes
[13:35:01] <AzumaHazuki> i mean it has a little green drinky-spout for a reason right...?
[13:35:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> zactly
[13:35:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> unfortunately chili-related skills do NOT translate to horseradish-related skills
[13:37:32] <AzumaHazuki> oohh, yeah. one goes down, the other goes up. it's like a roto-rooter for your sinuses though
[13:38:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup. kind of worth not having a tolerance when you catch something unfriendly to the sinuses
[13:38:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> crap, i meant to go put the last coat of paint on the walls half an hour ago. got distracted.
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[14:06:29] <FatPhil> I tend to prefer spicy chilli sauce on my kebabs rather than other foodstuffs. I don't always want to taste the full details of the squirrel.
[14:07:20] <FatPhil> At our local place, we've learnt to ask for the kebabs "to make us cry", and that's pretty OK. Nowhere else has any hot sauce at all, which is bullshit.
[15:25:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Bluetooth Bugs Allow Impersonation Attacks on Legions of Devices - https://sylnt.us - a-notable-bias
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[17:26:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA’s Human Spaceflight Chief Just Resigned, and the Timing Couldn’t be Worse - https://sylnt.us - headed-out-the-door
[17:39:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday lunch
[17:39:03] * exec quietly shoves an .msi package of Splode in lunch
[19:48:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SD Cards Hop on the PCIe 4.0 Bus to Hit 4GB/s with Version 8.0 of Storage Spec - https://sylnt.us - put-your-whole-system-on-a-tiny-chip
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[21:08:06] <carny> who wants to place bets on a disaster during the next nasa launch?
[22:08:51] <FatPhil> Crew Dragon Demo-2?
[22:15:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - EasyJet Says Cyberattack Exposed Data of 9 Million Customers - https://sylnt.us - another-day-another-breach
[22:23:08] <FatPhil> has https://covid19.healthdata.org gone done borked itself? Nothing but a blank page today.
[22:23:08] <systemd> ^ 03IHME | COVID-19 Projections
[22:32:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> must be cured then
[22:32:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> right, i'm off to the titty bar
[22:32:39] <pinchy> the dancers wear masks?
[22:32:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> or to mow the church. whichever i decide when i get the mower down to the corner.
[22:59:42] <carny> what was the pun strippers were using for their food delivery service during the lockdown?
[23:00:18] <carny> creative business model to get around the restrictions
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