#soylent | Logs for 2020-05-18

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[04:14:45] <FatPhil> ~gday fellow soylentils
[04:14:46] * exec hideously flings a D cup of tasty jams at fellow
[04:15:34] <FatPhil> dafuq I wake at bloody 6am?
[04:17:21] <chromas> Suffering from acute hypoalcoholica
[04:36:30] <FatPhil> well, I was utterly parched, but my first resort was a milky tea, not a tinny.
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[10:08:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:08:04] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5221
[10:16:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - COVID-19 Has Blown Away the Myth About 'First' and 'Third' World Competence - https://sylnt.us
[11:00:04] <Bytram> coffee++
[11:00:04] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5222
[11:00:10] <Bytram> allergies--
[11:00:10] <Bender> karma - allergies: -47
[11:00:20] <Bytram> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[11:00:21] * exec abnormally deallocates a hooker full of superballs from TheMightyBuzzard
[11:00:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday Bytram
[11:00:27] * exec implicitly dereferences a pointer to sack of cigars for Bytram
[11:00:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> how do you fill a hooker with superballs? nevermind. don't answer that.
[11:00:56] * Bytram hates smell of cigars
[11:01:14] <Bytram> it was deallocated anyway
[11:01:24] <Bytram> how you be this am?
[11:01:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> decaffeinated but remedying that
[11:01:55] <Bytram> ssame here
[11:02:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> speaking of, my nicotine levels could use some topping off as well.
[11:02:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++ #smoke break
[11:02:30] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 772
[11:02:40] <Bytram> cul8r
[11:10:05] <Bytram> !uid
[11:10:05] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 10728, owned by lacelestinaus
[11:14:34] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[11:14:34] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[11:16:03] <Bytram> $burito
[11:17:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> aqu4 long gone
[11:17:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> =burrito
[11:17:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake chromas
[11:17:39] * MrPlow smakes chromas upside the head with a stein of mead
[11:18:27] <Bytram> yeah, just plaiding. ;)
[11:21:22] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: how's the church work coming along? you must be getting close to move-in-able?
[11:22:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> getting close to rough-in inspections. be another few weeks after that before move-in
[11:22:53] <Bytram> rough-in inspections? Like... framing is to spec on spacing, wiring meets code, that kind of stuff?
[11:23:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> everything before putting the sheetrock on, painting it, putting up light fixtures, etc...
[11:24:18] <Bytram> I can picture that, tx
[11:24:50] <Bytram> how's that french drain been working out? Had it had a good long downpour to test it out yet?
[11:25:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> many. works quite well.
[11:25:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> now that we have temporary power to the panel we don't even have to go fire up the generator when it rains.
[11:26:30] <Bytram> yay!
[11:26:51] <Bytram> #weather
[11:26:51] <MrPlow> No location found for Bytram
[11:26:55] <Bytram> #weather TheMightyBuzzard
[11:27:00] <MrPlow> 1576 East Main St, Humboldt, TN 38343, USA - Today: "Possible light rain in the morning." 74/55F, Humidity: 80%, Precip: 79%, Wind ~7mph. Tue: "Possible light rain in the afternoon." 69/55F, Humidity: 88%, Precip: 57%, Wind ~6mph. Wed: "Partly cloudy throughout the day." 75/57F, Humidity: 85%, Precip: 27%, Wind ~3mph.
[11:27:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> possible hell. is raining right now
[11:27:27] <Bytram> so... 100% possible!
[11:27:53] <Bytram> looks like fishing might be an option for Wed?
[11:28:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> very likely. bait collection this afternoon.
[11:28:38] <Bytram> how'd i know it? =)
[11:29:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> had to skip out on the normal kids weekend saturday trip. rained out.
[11:30:15] <Bytram> how they liking it so far?
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[11:36:16] <Bytram> Loggie: WB!
[11:36:21] <Bytram> LOL!
[12:38:28] <cmn32480> WooHoo! Credit card fraud is the BEST way to wake up.
[12:38:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> how much did you steal?
[12:38:58] <cmn32480> sadly twasn't me
[12:39:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh, well that'll teach you to do unto others before they do unto you
[12:39:25] <cmn32480> lol
[12:39:28] <cmn32480> yeah
[12:39:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> back in 5, suffering an acute lack of nicotine
[12:40:21] <cmn32480> somebody charged my wifes card for $86 and change at some music service in Oregon.
[12:41:25] <FatPhil> you're not liable for any of that, card companies will often fail to tell you that.
[12:42:00] <cmn32480> I know.
[12:42:12] <FatPhil> bank tried to persuade g/f to take a 50$ hit, she tore them a new one.
[12:42:52] <cmn32480> that's BS
[12:45:55] <Bytram> cmn32480: !!
[12:46:04] <Bytram> ~gday cmn32480
[12:46:07] * exec amazingly crams a smidgen of shrooms into cmn32480
[12:46:19] <cmn32480> ~gday bytram
[12:46:21] * exec unknowingly pukes a tub of cronjobs on bytram
[12:46:30] <Bytram> ewwww!
[12:47:05] <Bytram> howz thingz?
[12:47:13] <cmn32480> not too bad
[12:47:33] <cmn32480> was awoken by a call from the credit card company for fraud.. but other than that things are pretty reasonable
[12:47:38] <Bytram> how is the family holding up with the lockdown?
[12:47:47] <cmn32480> itching to GTFO
[12:47:50] <Bytram> better that they DID call you
[12:47:54] <cmn32480> true
[12:47:55] <Bytram> nod nod
[12:48:05] <cmn32480> how about you? holding up all right
[12:48:41] <Bytram> I'm not a terribly social person by nature, but after 15+ years working retain, even I am starting to feel "closed in"
[12:48:53] <cmn32480> yeah
[12:48:55] <Bytram> s/tain/tail/
[12:48:56] <exec> <Bytram> I'm not a terribly social person by nature, but after 15+ years working retail, even I am starting to feel "closed in"
[12:49:02] <cmn32480> i got some yard work you can do
[12:49:20] <Bytram> have started going out for ~1 hr walks each day; seems to help some
[12:49:26] <Bytram> allergies--
[12:49:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> blarg. i forgot my bot's tied to pre-tls1.3 versions of openssl and gentoo boxes don't have such a thing on them.
[12:49:34] <Bytram> pollenn--
[12:49:47] <Bytram> ruh roh!
[12:49:56] <cmn32480> #smake Bender
[12:49:56] * MrPlow smakes Bender upside the head with a one-sided die
[12:50:01] <Bytram> that would be MrPlow?
[12:50:15] <cmn32480> the ++ and -- is bender
[12:50:28] <cmn32480> teamwork++
[12:50:46] <Bytram> oh! Where'd s/he go?
[12:50:53] <Bytram> !uid
[12:50:53] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 10728, owned by lacelestinaus
[12:50:54] <cmn32480> TMB - you break Bender?
[12:51:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake Bender
[12:51:06] * MrPlow smakes Bender upside the head with an onion
[12:51:08] <cmn32480> coffee++
[12:51:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> sec
[12:51:28] <Bytram> Bender: is still here
[12:51:28] <cmn32480> we broke 10k usernames.
[12:51:33] <cmn32480> I didn't know that
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[12:52:00] <Bytram> yep... lotsa them (most) are MMF or Porn or other ripoffs
[12:52:13] <cmn32480> here... but more unresponsive as the editors
[12:52:53] <Bytram> ???
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[12:53:06] <Bytram> allergies--
[12:53:06] <Bender> karma - allergies: -48
[12:53:15] <Bytram> pollen--
[12:53:15] <Bender> karma - pollen: -1
[12:53:21] <cmn32480> coffee not enough brian no worky
[12:53:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> 8008135++
[12:53:26] <Bender> karma - 8008135: 141
[12:53:31] <cmn32480> coffee++
[12:53:31] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5223
[12:54:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Addresses 111 Bugs for May Patch Tuesday - https://sylnt.us - flaws-of-the-month-club
[12:54:45] <Bytram> whoa! been a week since I last check new nicks/UIDs
[12:55:14] <cmn32480> is one of their bugs the murder hornet?
[12:56:14] <Bytram> no idea
[12:56:33] <Bytram> here are the new account counts for the past week or so, by date:
[12:56:34] <Bytram> 2020-05-11 17
[12:56:35] <Bytram> 2020-05-12 30
[12:56:35] <Bytram> 2020-05-13 20
[12:56:35] <Bytram> 2020-05-14 35
[12:56:35] <Bytram> 2020-05-15 33
[12:56:37] <Bytram> 2020-05-16 13
[12:56:39] <Bytram> 2020-05-17 12
[12:56:41] <Bytram> 2020-05-18 11
[12:57:12] <cmn32480> seems suspiciously high
[12:57:37] <Bytram> no kidding! at least 80-90% are spammy
[12:58:38] <cmn32480> that stinks. Are people using the API to create accounts, or are they just creating them manually/
[12:58:52] <cmn32480> "I don't know" is also an acceptable answer
[12:59:12] <Bytram> dunno
[12:59:17] <Bytram> hold on
[13:01:51] <Bytram> from the 15th to today, inclusive:
[13:01:57] <Bytram> PASTE_BEGIN
[13:01:59] <Bytram> 00010671 2020-05-15 "RE Story f Suessful Passive Inom St"
[13:01:59] <Bytram> 00010673 2020-05-15 "Pay Day Loans "
[13:01:59] <Bytram> 00010675 2020-05-15 "A Payday Loan "
[13:01:59] <Bytram> 00010681 2020-05-15 "Paid Surves Ern $30,000 r r Pr We h"
[13:01:59] <Bytram> 00010683 2020-05-15 "EASY SCHEM ARNINGS ON THE INTRNET f"
[13:01:59] <Bytram> 00010688 2020-05-15 "Eas w t ern money nlin in CA up to "
[13:02:04] <Bytram> 00010690 2020-05-15 "Fwd Stor of Sucessful Passive Incm "
[13:02:05] <Bytram> 00010694 2020-05-16 "ow t invest in Bitin nd receiv frm "
[13:02:08] <Bytram> 00010698 2020-05-16 "Hw t Ern Bitcoins 0.5 Fst and as 2"
[13:02:10] <Bytram> 00010700 2020-05-16 "Fwd y suess str. Wa To Ern $10000 r"
[13:02:12] <Bytram> 00010702 2020-05-16 "Get $1000 $6000 A D httpscutt.usRx"
[13:02:14] <Bytram> 00010706 2020-05-17 "UPDT Crytourrency Investing Strteg "
[13:02:16] <Bytram> 00010709 2020-05-17 "dult nlin dting mobile numbrs https"
[13:02:18] <Bytram> 00010711 2020-05-17 "dult bst fre dating sites nda 2019 "
[13:02:19] <Bytram> 00010713 2020-05-17 "dult dting sits in south st lndon h"
[13:02:22] <Bytram> 00010717 2020-05-17 "S dting in th US Girls fr sx in th"
[13:02:24] <Bytram> 00010718 2020-05-18 "Adult dating smone 35 years oldr ht"
[13:02:26] <Bytram> 00010726 2020-05-18 "dult dating merian nlin httpfreeurl"
[13:02:28] <Bytram> 00010727 2020-05-18 "Mt sey girls in our ity US httpsmup"
[13:02:30] <Bytram> paSTE_END
[13:02:31] <cmn32480> they all look totally legit...
[13:03:06] <Bytram> no missing ASCII lookalike chars, either. :P
[13:04:20] <Bytram> those are just nicks having 4 or more words in 'em
[13:04:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't think the api has the ability to create accounts
[13:05:28] <Bytram> not *natively*, but if I wanted to start a business with ready-made nicks on our site... would be easy enough to do.
[13:06:07] * cmn32480 finds himself amazed at the stupidity of people every day.
[13:06:15] <cmn32480> what point would that serve?
[13:06:59] <Bytram> just a simple math question with random, text-based challenge would prolly block most of those
[13:07:14] <Bytram> two + [ ] = six
[13:07:27] <cmn32480> might be an idea for implementation
[13:07:33] <Bytram> [ ] minus seven = 3
[13:07:47] <cmn32480> NC can implement it in 5 or 6000 lines of code
[13:07:59] <Bytram> eight / 4 = [ ]
[13:08:15] <Bytram> in about 5 minutes, too!
[13:08:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> "what time is it" and match anything with a colon
[13:08:56] <cmn32480> it'd match my butt?
[13:09:20] <cmn32480> I mean... it has a colon
[13:09:31] <cmn32480> that'd be sphincteriffic
[13:09:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> bots don't have butts, so effective
[13:09:43] <Bytram> if you can't do the math, then the new account screen would just up and fail with a message. Invalid response. Please try again.
[13:09:50] <Bytram> butt out?
[13:09:58] * cmn32480 giggles
[13:11:34] <Bytram> ISTR that there are certain rules/laws that go into effect once a size gets a sufficient number of accts.
[13:12:25] <Bytram> at 10K+ I'm sure we've passed the threshold for *something*
[13:12:34] <Bytram> break time
[13:15:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> church time
[13:16:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> hammer time first though
[13:16:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt can't touch this
[13:16:12] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- MC Hammer - U Can't Touch This (Official Music Video)
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[18:57:10] <TurkeyWaddle> =asub https://www.forbes.com
[18:57:12] <systemd> Submitting "Zoom Down: Here’s The Latest On Its ‘Down’ Status Following Major Outage"...
[18:57:34] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Zoom Down: Here’s the Latest on its ‘Down’ Status Following Major Outage" (1 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[19:06:35] <TurkeyWaddle> =asub https://arstechnica.com
[19:06:36] <systemd> Submitting "Sunday’s launch of a secret space plane produced some eye-catching images"...
[19:06:58] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Sunday’s Launch of a Secret Space Plane Produced Some Eye-catching Images" (5 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[19:09:50] <TurkeyWaddle> =asub https://arstechnica.com
[19:09:52] <systemd> Submitting "ZFS versus RAID: Eight Ironwolf disks, two filesystems, one winner"...
[19:10:08] <TurkeyWaddle> =asub https://arstechnica.com
[19:10:09] <systemd> Submitting "Uber lays off 3,000 people in second big round of cuts"...
[19:10:14] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03ZFS Versus RAID: Eight Ironwolf Disks, Two Filesystems, One Winner" (17 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[19:10:31] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Uber Lays Off 3,000 People in Second Big Round of Cuts" (7 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[19:10:34] <TurkeyWaddle> =asub https://arstechnica.com
[19:10:35] <systemd> Submitting "Corkscrew light promises higher optical-communication data rates"...
[19:10:46] <TurkeyWaddle> =cite https://dx.doi.org
[19:10:50] <systemd> Journal Reference Zhifeng Zhang, Xingdu Qiao, Bikashkali Midya, et al. Tunable topological charge vortex microlaser [$], <cite>Science</cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/10.1126/science.aba8996">10.1126/science.aba8996</a>)
[19:10:57] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Corkscrew Light Promises Higher Optical-communication Data Rates" (17 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[19:11:13] <TurkeyWaddle> =asub https://arstechnica.com
[19:11:14] <systemd> Submitting "Charter tells court that its no-refund policy helps prevent price increases"...
[19:11:36] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Charter Tells Court That its No-refund Policy Helps Prevent Price Increases" (18 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[19:11:44] <TurkeyWaddle> =asub https://arstechnica.com
[19:11:45] <systemd> Submitting "Denuvo says its new kernel-level anti-cheat driver is minimally invasive"...
[19:12:07] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Denuvo Says its New Kernel-level Anti-cheat Driver is Minimally Invasive" (16 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[19:12:20] <Bytram> TurkeyWaddle: thanks for the story submissions!
[19:14:03] <TurkeyWaddle> =asub https://www.engadget.com
[19:14:05] <systemd> Submitting "AG Barr seeks 'legislative solution' to make companies unlock phones"...
[19:14:13] <TurkeyWaddle> You are quite welcome
[19:14:27] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03AG Barr Seeks 'Legislative Solution' to Make Companies Unlock Phones" (4 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[19:15:45] <TurkeyWaddle> =asub https://www.engadget.com
[19:15:47] <systemd> Submitting "Supercomputers across Europe have fallen to cryptomining hacks"...
[19:15:48] <Bytram> especially helpful on Monday mornings. Weekend stories slack off in quantity and quality, and not much of anything new comes out in the morning!
[19:16:09] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Supercomputers Across Europe Have Fallen to Cryptomining Hacks" (3 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[19:17:16] <TurkeyWaddle> =asub https://www.engadget.com
[19:17:18] <systemd> Submitting "Apple gets early approval for $500 million iPhone throttling settlement"...
[19:17:40] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Apple Gets Early Approval for $500 Million iPhone Throttling Settlement" (4 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[19:21:42] <TurkeyWaddle> =asub https://techcrunch.com
[19:21:43] <systemd> Submitting "U.S. House approves remote voting, though the tech is unclear – TechCrunch"...( 1 modified urls; https://social.techcrunch.com )
[19:22:05] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03U.S. House Approves Remote Voting, Though the Tech is Unclear – TechCrunch" (21 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[19:27:12] <nutherguy> =submit https://www.sott.net
[19:27:15] <systemd> Submitting "Tehran: 'Decisive response' will meet US attempts to intercept Iranian tankers -- Sott.net"...
[19:27:36] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Tehran: 'Decisive Response' Will Meet US Attempts to Intercept Iranian Tankers -- Sott.net" (0 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[19:27:46] <TurkeyWaddle> =asub https://www.theverge.com
[19:27:48] <systemd> Submitting "A pizzeria owner made money buying his own $24 pizzas from DoorDash for $16"...
[19:28:10] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03a Pizzeria Owner Made Money Buying His Own $24 Pizzas From DoorDash for $16" (1 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[19:28:44] <TurkeyWaddle> =asub https://www.theverge.com
[19:28:46] <systemd> Submitting "The FBI successfully broke into a gunman’s iPhone, but it’s still very angry at Apple"...
[19:29:07] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03the FBI Successfully Broke Into a Gunman’s iPhone, but It’s Still Very Angry at Apple" (1 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[19:29:57] <TurkeyWaddle> "There is no reason why companies like Apple cannot design their consumer products and apps to allow for court-authorized access by law enforcement, while maintaining very high standards of data security. Striking this balance should not be left to corporate board rooms.”"
[19:30:20] <TurkeyWaddle> I would call him a douchebag but that gives doucebag's a bad rap
[19:32:20] <Bytram> If *you* can get in, then so can the "bad guys"... I do not want *either* of you to have access,
[19:33:00] <chromas> Sounds like something a bad guy would say.
[19:33:03] <Bytram> feigned ignorance/stupidity, or maybe it just comes naturally?
[19:33:15] <TurkeyWaddle> That isx exactly the point and no amount of magic wand waving or lawyering will change that
[19:33:27] <nutherguy> "high security with a back door" is just one of the newest oxymorons
[19:33:40] <TurkeyWaddle> ^^^
[19:33:50] <Bytram> singing to the choir!
[19:33:53] <nutherguy> Something cool today:
[19:34:08] <nutherguy> no dine-in restaurants open, so I gave up and headed for home.
[19:34:23] <Bytram> High security with a back door == back door.
[19:34:28] <nutherguy> Saw something called "the burger joint" with lots of cars, so I stopped
[19:34:39] <nutherguy> Old gas station/garage - ancient place
[19:34:51] <nutherguy> they put tables under where the gas pumps used to be
[19:34:59] <nutherguy> all the bay doors in the garage are open
[19:35:03] <nutherguy> nice and air
[19:35:17] <nutherguy> watresses are located where the old pay counter was
[19:35:25] <nutherguy> and right outside the door is a food truck
[19:35:30] <nutherguy> works out great!!
[19:35:52] <Bytram> great thinking!
[19:35:58] <chromas> But do you still get gas?
[19:36:04] <nutherguy> Oh yeah - my burger was great!
[19:36:08] <TurkeyWaddle> Just in time for summer
[19:36:11] <nutherguy> gasoline across the street
[19:36:30] <TurkeyWaddle> smells like napalm in the morning?
[19:36:38] <nutherguy> Nothing better!
[19:36:53] <Bytram> I've occasionally thought someone could make a killing by setting up "food truck" meals in the foyer at, say, Home Depot or Lowes.
[19:37:47] <nutherguy> I may have to introduce the wife to the new form of "night out" at an old gas station
[19:38:35] <nutherguy> The architecture is cool - we talking all the structural support beams are rough cut 4x12
[19:39:07] <nutherguy> The longest beam, about 50 ft - not sure if it was one piece, or a couple jointed together
[19:39:20] <Bytram> Nothing fancy; hot dogs, burgers, sausages. With toppings like chili, mustard, ketchup, relish. cardboard carrying holder. Easy peasy. and a captive audience,
[19:39:51] <Bytram> youza! that's a big beam!
[19:40:19] <nutherguy> Ten Mexicans will manhandle it into place in a few minutes, LOL
[19:40:34] <nutherguy> They might cheat and use some kind of hoist though
[19:40:39] <Bytram> or 15 americans?
[19:40:59] <nutherguy> Depends on the Americans - some of them can't lift 20 pounds
[19:41:15] <Bytram> say what you will, but I've seen some of those guys *work* and with no complaint
[19:41:26] <Bytram> yuppers
[19:41:51] <nutherguy> I know they'll work, been working with them for - holy cow, I guess it's over 30 years now
[19:42:23] <Bytram> My life is better for having met them, and I hope the feeling was mutual.
[19:42:30] <Bytram> nod nod
[19:42:36] <TurkeyWaddle> Americans?
[19:42:51] <nutherguy> Some, anyway. There are the bad ones . . .
[19:42:57] <Bytram> mexicans/etc.
[19:43:18] <Bytram> I live in a hyge meting pot of a city.
[19:43:21] <Bytram> *huge
[19:43:38] <Bytram> on any given day I could meet someone from any opf 50 different countries
[19:44:04] <Bytram> and I've learned how to say thankyou in over 20 of 'em!
[19:44:12] <Bytram> that;s it.
[19:44:26] <Bytram> nap time
[19:45:04] <TurkeyWaddle> naps++
[19:45:04] <Bender> karma - naps: 111
[19:45:06] <Bytram> after a big lunch and it being warm, can't stay awake. Besides didn't sleep long last night.
[19:45:13] <Bytram> back in a whijle
[19:45:25] <Bytram> naps++ indeed!
[19:45:25] <Bender> karma - naps: 112
[19:45:38] <Bytram> cul8r!
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[19:46:18] <guy_> I hid all the naps a couple days ago when TMB was looking for one
[19:47:24] <guy_> hard drive cloning operation is 376% finished, but only about 1/3 of the data has been written to disk
[19:47:27] <guy_> go figure
[19:49:21] <guy_> sudo dd if=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=468860928 conv=sync,noerror | pv -s 21G |sudo dd of=/dev/sdc
[19:49:21] <guy_> ^C.7GiB 0:55:21 [21.2MiB/s] [================================================================================================================] 384% ETA 0:00:00
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[19:50:33] <chromas> Why use a pipe?
[19:52:02] <guy_> explanation of command here - https://www.howtoforge.com
[19:52:05] <systemd> ^ 03How to clone disks with Linux dd command
[19:52:30] <TurkeyWaddle> because a paper towel roll just falls apart on you
[19:53:01] <guy_> Well, only if the data is abrasive, TurkeyWaddle
[19:54:23] <chromas> Could just pass status=progress to dd
[19:55:11] <guy_> yeah, more than one way to skin a cat, but the cat don't like any of them
[19:55:19] <TurkeyWaddle> or wet
[19:55:39] <TurkeyWaddle> cat's get all the abuse
[19:55:47] <guy_> Oh, jeezuz - I don't let no wet data get near my machine!!
[19:55:49] <TurkeyWaddle> skinning cats
[19:55:53] <TurkeyWaddle> swing dead cats
[19:55:54] <guy_> throw it in the clothes dryer first
[19:56:28] <TurkeyWaddle> Nah you have to by a custom engineered data dryer at 100X the price
[19:56:52] <guy_> The old Frigidaire brand does just fine, I've been using it for years
[19:57:36] * guy_ needs to work on another hard drive too - heads out to pull it out of a machine
[19:57:38] <TurkeyWaddle> oh, you're not spending "other people's money" on a corporate budget. I see
[19:59:37] <TurkeyWaddle> Well at least it makes sense that the 384% can be way off. Looks like that's an estimate of the data you expect to move, but garbage in garbage out
[20:00:21] <chromas> I dunno if I can trust a site with not article or comment datestamps
[20:03:49] <TurkeyWaddle> I think the link to a myspace page dates it a bit
[20:04:36] <TurkeyWaddle> jk
[20:05:06] <TurkeyWaddle> first cataloged by archive.org on 8/10/2017 so at least that old
[20:05:50] <TurkeyWaddle> or snapshot I should say
[20:06:44] <TurkeyWaddle> Interestingly the "tutorial info" block upper right had a date in it at the time of that snapshot
[20:06:53] <TurkeyWaddle> 8/10/2017
[20:08:11] <TurkeyWaddle> same date in a 1/29/2019 snapshot
[20:09:31] <kyonko> dd can't be that simple
[20:09:38] <kyonko> i used it as a kid to make boot disks
[20:09:46] <kyonko> but in DOS, you had to use rawrite
[20:09:57] <kyonko> i don't remember it as rawwrite
[20:10:41] <kyonko> then things got weird fast and its now a yes or no answer: can it do that?
[20:11:30] <guy_> In the Linux world, most of us keep our clothes on when working with hard disks - PPE is important in hazardous environments
[20:17:32] <kyonko> how delicate are HDD's really?
[20:17:45] <kyonko> took me a while to figure out that one about the monster magnetic fields
[20:18:37] <kyonko> I assume HDD's to be delicate if RAID is a thing
[20:35:29] <guy_> Fewer and fewer hard drives care about magnetic fields any more
[20:35:41] <guy_> They've mutated to be immune
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[20:36:32] <guy_> I think it's related to size - an 80 gig external disk halfways filled a backpack thirty years ago
[20:36:43] <guy_> today, I put 250 gig in my shirt pocket
[20:37:31] <guy_> Then, there are USB drives, that don't care about magnetism either - I can put a dozen 250 gig drives in my pocket
[20:37:58] <guy_> evolution at work . . .
[20:46:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Crypto-Mining Campaign Hits European Supercomputers - https://sylnt.us - take-the-money-and-run
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[23:06:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Warrant Issued for Senator Richard Burr's Phone and iCloud Account for Insider Trading - https://sylnt.us
[23:36:46] <kyonko> its evolution, but not natural selection
[23:36:55] <kyonko> no one dies in this
[23:38:21] <chromas> Except for the Chinese kids mining the materials
[23:38:32] <kyonko> damn china
[23:38:43] <kyonko> even american consumers die from the beetus
[23:38:57] * chromas pulls the bot's pullstring
[23:39:16] <chromas> die o' beetus
[23:39:38] <kyonko> the beetus is a big money maker for big pharma
[23:39:48] <kyonko> needles get lost
[23:40:09] <chromas> While my router was beating off yesterday, I discovered my net connection is faster than the router can handle. sheeit
[23:40:30] <kyonko> is this some small isp?
[23:40:36] <chromas> no
[23:40:46] <chromas> Charter cable
[23:40:47] <kyonko> explain like i am 5 your isp
[23:40:51] <kyonko> oh cable co
[23:41:01] <chromas> Sans router I was getting ~120mb/s
[23:41:10] <chromas> router only has 100mb ethernet :(
[23:41:34] <chromas> but it was on sale for $9 at the time so
[23:45:24] <kyonko> wtf
[23:45:35] <kyonko> they let you use your own router?
[23:45:48] <chromas> have my own modem too
[23:46:16] <kyonko> heh, does charter firewall incoming connections?
[23:46:20] <chromas> no
[23:47:48] <kyonko> all broadband isp's firewall incoming connections here
[23:47:59] <chromas> that sucks. even ipv6?
[23:48:11] <kyonko> maybe?
[23:48:53] <chromas> They might be more lax with it because there's no shortage of addresses, whiel ipv4 is always just about to run out, so some ISPs force you through a nat
[23:49:26] <kyonko> yep
[23:49:36] <kyonko> all of them, some of the internal nat is quite deep
[23:51:33] <chromas> Glad I don't have to put up with that
[23:51:36] * chromas rubs his box
[23:52:19] <kyonko> maybe it depends where you live
[23:52:34] <kyonko> because these guys copied everything you did with a gateway
[23:52:39] <chromas> And how old the ISP is
[23:52:41] <kyonko> constant error 502's
[23:52:53] <kyonko> its, cricket wireless, centurylink and mediacom
[23:53:00] <kyonko> sprint pcs same shit
[23:53:12] <kyonko> t-mobile
[23:53:33] <chromas> Hm, don't cell networks prefer ipv6?
[23:53:40] <kyonko> i have ipv6
[23:53:52] <chromas> still firewalled?
[23:53:58] <kyonko> which reminds me I need to visit a channel i'm banned on in efnet
[23:54:13] <kyonko> why shouldn't ipv6 be firewalled, they hate you doing p2p
[23:54:23] <chromas> But I want to torrent
[23:54:41] <kyonko> torrent linux dvd's?
[23:55:11] <chromas> Yeah, that's it. Totally legit Ubuntus and Big Buck Bunny ISOs
[23:55:36] <kyonko> just like usenet
[23:55:41] <chromas> They don't want you to saturate the network but I doubt they care about p2p, at least on cable/dsl
[23:55:49] <kyonko> i remember giganews was still a thing in mid 2010's
[23:56:06] <kyonko> charter doesn't care for p2p
[23:56:08] <kyonko> most do
[23:56:25] <chromas> They just want your monies
[23:56:30] <kyonko> it started around 2007
[23:56:35] <kyonko> with tiscal.it in europe
[23:56:56] <chromas> well, they probably care more now that they're merging with all the media companies who haven't been bought up by disney yet
[23:56:58] <kyonko> they were the first isp to block incoming connections to customers
[23:57:17] <kyonko> disney internet?
[23:58:59] <chromas> where the violent sword attacks have no blood and nobody has sex
[23:59:06] <chromas> or maybe that's just star wars now
[23:59:22] <chromas> since the prequels
[23:59:52] <kyonko> i've seen the fan service