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[00:06:50] <guy_> =submit https://www.zerohedge.com
[00:06:52] <systemd> Submitting "The Future Of The Economy May Depend On An Ancient Doctrine Of The Past"...
[00:07:14] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03the Future of the Economy May Depend on an Ancient Doctrine of the Past" (18 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[00:07:27] <guy_> Volenti non fit injuria
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[01:46:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Old Russian Rocket Breaks Up in Earth Orbit: Space Agency - https://sylnt.us - Bits-and-pieces
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[02:21:06] <AzumaHazuki> bleh...Gentoo screwed up its python migration. Am back on Artix, and liking it
[02:21:29] <AzumaHazuki> maybe not as "l33t" but i'm finding i don't care about that all that much
[02:28:54] <chromas> python 4?
[02:30:51] <AzumaHazuki> 3.6 to 3.7 target switch. made it impossible to, well, switch
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[03:56:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - France is Using AI to Check Whether People are Wearing Masks on Public Transport - https://sylnt.us - I-for-one-welcome-our-robotic-overlords
[03:59:07] <tedious> AzumaHazuki: I got it to work on a machine or two.
[03:59:25] <AzumaHazuki> the python switchover just now?
[03:59:37] <tedious> A few days ago.
[04:00:19] <tedious> Had to change python_targets for 6 apps but eventually it worked.
[04:00:38] <AzumaHazuki> that didn't work for me when i tried it unfortunately
[04:00:49] <AzumaHazuki> meh, fuck it, on Artix already
[04:01:03] <tedious> And this.
[04:01:08] <tedious> sys-apps/util-linux tty-helpers
[04:01:18] <tedious> No idea what that's about.
[04:04:45] <tedious> Now that I look it's just 4 apps and I think I did 2 at once so it didn't take more than an hour.
[06:07:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Programming Languages: Python Developers Reveal what they Use it for and their Top Tools - https://sylnt.us - Top-ten-list
[06:09:02] <AzumaHazuki> 1) breaking gentoo
[06:48:25] <chromas> No systemd so something had to fill the breakage quota
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[07:54:45] <FatPhil> anyone got some SQL smarts? I've got a query doind a max (most likely unique, don't care if it isn't) and avg on data grouped by a (date) field, and I'd like to also grab another field of the record that corresponds to the max it found.
[08:16:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ferguson's Model and Its Implications - https://sylnt.us - garbage-in-garbage-out
[08:21:59] <chromas> You could use a nested statement
[08:22:51] <chromas> select a, b from table where b = (select max(b) from table);
[08:36:14] <FatPhil> but it's not the max of the table it's the max in each group
[08:57:19] * chromas doesn't know how to use the grouping and window functions
[09:34:13] <FatPhil> aha! http://mysql.rjweb.org
[09:34:15] <systemd> ^ 03Groupwise Max in MySQL
[09:36:53] <FatPhil> #weather Tallinn
[09:36:54] <MrPlow> Pärnu mnt 67a, 10131 Tallinn, Estonia - Today: "Rain until evening." 49/34F, Humidity: 75%, Precip: 91%, Wind ~12mph. Tue: "Mostly cloudy throughout the day." 48/31F, Humidity: 65%, Precip: 15%, Wind ~11mph. Wed: "Mostly cloudy throughout the day." 49/38F, Humidity: 69%, Precip: 35%, Wind ~7mph.
[09:37:02] <FatPhil> mrplow++
[09:37:02] <Bender> karma - mrplow: 2
[09:38:52] <boru> #weather Bad Reichenhall
[09:38:53] <MrPlow> Rathausplatz 3, 83435 Bad Reichenhall, Germany - Today: "Rain starting in the afternoon." 73/38F, Humidity: 69%, Precip: 82%, Wind ~4mph. Tue: "Possible light rain in the morning." 58/41F, Humidity: 77%, Precip: 77%, Wind ~2mph. Wed: "Possible light rain in the afternoon and evening." 55/46F, Humidity: 87%, Precip: 63%, Wind ~2mph.
[09:43:28] <boru> Hmm, CAPE and CIN are high in the region today. I expect thunderstorms.
[09:43:33] <boru> mrplow--
[09:43:33] <Bender> karma - mrplow: 1
[09:45:18] <boru> Mid level sheer, also. I wonder if we'll get a meso.
[10:05:27] * FatPhil harumphs, the new indian restaurant doesn't do salty lassis.
[10:07:06] <FatPhil> jeebus, snow!
[10:07:55] <inz> Oh it reached you already.
[10:08:24] <AndyTheAbsurd> #weather
[10:08:25] <MrPlow> The canopy - rooftop bar, 4th Ave NE, Saint Petersburg, FL 33701, USA - Today: "Clear throughout the day." 82/68F, Humidity: 71%, Precip: 20%, Wind ~8mph. Tue: "Clear throughout the day." 84/69F, Humidity: 63%, Precip: 4%, Wind ~11mph. Wed: "Clear throughout the day." 84/70F, Humidity: 69%, Precip: 5%, Wind ~15mph.
[10:08:52] <AndyTheAbsurd> Only 82F today, that's not bad.
[10:12:20] <boru> JFC, latex warning specs are such a pile of shite. Why not just allow them to be written in file:line:error like errors. I wrote a script which parses errors and warnings out of the noise, and somehow file context still eludes a pretty solid regex for some warnings.
[10:13:25] <boru> /\[(\d+).*\].*\($dir\/([\w\/-]+\.tex)$((.|\n)*?)(?=\[\d+\]\s\(.*)/gm should capture document context in all cases, but no, Donald fecking Knuth decided that it's acceptable to plonk newlines and spaces between tokens wherever you bloody well feel like it.
[10:14:54] <boru> Hmm, now that I look at the regex, I see some redundancy. Thank you, #soylent, for rubber ducking.
[10:19:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:19:19] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5210
[10:22:50] <FatPhil> I was warned that our weather was coming from Funland, a little winter throwback was expected.
[10:26:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Wild Explanation for the Most Explosive 'Meteor Impact' on Record - https://sylnt.us - too-hot-to-drop
[10:30:25] <FatPhil> boru: consider the "o" switch if $dir is unchanging, and .*? rather than .*, for several reasons.
[10:30:52] <FatPhil> assuming perl, which seems fair.
[10:34:12] <boru> Yeah, I was just hacking for debug purposes with those `.*` -- I normally try to avoid them. I'll remove those shortly.
[10:42:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> while i appreciate a finely crafted regex that can do it all at once, KISS still applies. five simple regexes that you can test individually are quicker to craft.
[10:43:06] <boru> Yeah, true enough. I am just hacking in a REPL here moreso to discover bits that I am missing in the latex warning spec.
[10:45:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> enjoy then. i'm still too decaffeinated to be fucking around with tex insanity.
[10:45:59] <boru> Yeah, it's a mess. At least errors can be better spec'd, but man, warnings are a mess.
[10:46:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> well whadda ya expect from the systemd of the document world?
[10:47:01] <boru> Well, it's good for collaborating with N other authors, but sometimes the output is a bit hard to decipher.
[10:48:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> just be glad they didn't think to make warnings and errors output in a binary format
[10:49:03] <boru> Heh, quite so.
[10:54:55] <FatPhil> we love dealing with tex compared with almost any other format. we've even introduced our clients to diffs, which they really like.
[10:55:40] <boru> Yeah, the ability to diff is very very useful.
[10:56:15] <FatPhil> the only issue with tex is the tendency towards long lines.
[10:57:42] <boru> In the output, or input?
[10:57:52] <FatPhil> input
[10:58:20] <boru> Well, my editor automatically wraps it.
[10:59:03] <FatPhil> I'm not sure what authoring tools the clients use. Emacs doesn't handle it particularly well, alas.
[11:01:58] <boru> Obviously. vim is the superior editor.
[11:03:50] <boru> But on a more serious note, mind if I /query you to rubber duck?
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[11:09:56] <FatPhil> boru: no probs, fire away
[12:35:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Washington in Talks with Chipmakers about Building U.S. Factories - https://sylnt.us - maybe-they-can-team-up-with-Frito-Lay
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[13:07:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> blarg. i don't feel like setting up a chroot environment for building packages that don't need to be installed on the build box this morning
[13:10:01] <boru> Does gentoo have something like poudriere?
[13:10:44] <boru> That's what I've got here; FreeBSD local packagesite on which I cross compile customised ports with poudriere and jails.
[13:15:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, called crossdev
[13:16:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> or you can just install gentoo into a chroot directory, hardlink your conf files from portage so you don't have keep them the same manually, and link the built packages directories
[13:17:16] <boru> Hmm, I see.
[13:17:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> crossdev is really more for building for different hardware environments but it'd work just fine for the same hardware as well
[13:18:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> like we've no need of having php installed on dev, which is our build box, but it's a dependency for some other packages
[13:19:11] <boru> Now to to configure that dep out?
[13:20:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, just make a chroot environment that can have php installed without it infecting the actual system
[13:21:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> so it builds a binary package for php, which goes into the repo that other boxes can then pull down as a dep
[13:22:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> well, other box. only beryllium uses that POS
[13:24:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> aluminum is going to be a beryllium replacement though and it's easier to set up a chroot build environment than find new admin tools that don't use php
[13:27:11] <FatPhil> why Charlie Brooker has stopped writing /Black Mirror/ episodes: http://www.youtube.com
[13:27:13] <systemd> ^ 03Spot robot patrolling Bishan-Ang Mo Kio Park ( https://www.youtube.com )
[13:28:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://soylentnews.org
[13:28:41] <systemd> ^ 03Journal of takyon (881)
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[14:30:16] <TurkeyWaddle> =submit https://nypost.com
[14:30:18] <systemd> Submitting "Partygoer jokes about having coronavirus"...
[14:30:39] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Partygoer Jokes About Having Coronavirus" (1 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[14:42:47] <TurkeyWaddle> =submit https://www.engadget.com
[14:42:49] <systemd> Submitting "Thunderbolt flaw lets hackers steal your data in 'five minutes'"...
[14:43:11] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Thunderbolt Flaw Lets Hackers Steal Your Data in 'Five Minutes'" (9 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:46:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Grim Outlook for Our Survivability - https://sylnt.us - never-tell-me-the-odds
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[15:49:27] <guy_> =submit https://www.reuters.com
[15:49:29] <systemd> Submitting "Mexico asks U.S. for answers over historic gun-running row"...
[15:49:51] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Mexico Asks U.S. for Answers Over Historic Gun-running Row" (18 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[16:03:11] <guy_> =submit https://globalnews.ca
[16:03:12] <systemd> Submitting "Pretty, yet painful: Rare ‘blue dragons’ wash up on Texas beach - National"...
[16:03:34] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Pretty, Yet Painful: Rare ‘Blue Dragons’ Wash Up on Texas Beach - National" (26 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[16:10:07] <guy_> =submit https://www.engadget.com
[16:10:09] <systemd> Submitting "How to find free ebooks while libraries are closed"...
[16:10:30] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03How to Find Free Ebooks While Libraries are Closed" (15 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[16:11:54] <guy_> Fekkin Bulgarians!!
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[16:12:08] <guy_> =submit https://www.sciencenews.org
[16:12:10] <systemd> Submitting "The earliest known humans in Europe may have been found in a Bulgarian cave"...
[16:12:32] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03the Earliest Known Humans in Europe May Have Been Found in a Bulgarian Cave" (24 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[16:12:56] <TurkeyWaddle> =submit https://www.wired.com
[16:12:58] <systemd> Submitting "Thunderbolt Flaws Expose Millions of PCs to Hands-On Hacking"...
[16:13:20] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Thunderbolt Flaws Expose Millions of PCs to Hands-On Hacking" (19 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[16:56:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Create New Recipe for Single-Atom Transistors - https://sylnt.us - Eye-of-newt-and-toe-of-frog...
[17:09:21] <FatPhil> woo woo! full house from my bank payment confirmation code generator!
[17:12:49] <chromas> 💩|💩|💩|💨|💨
[17:25:12] <Bytram> FatPhil: So you can *generate* confirmations of bank payments to you? Do the payment have to be genuine? =)
[17:46:38] <FatPhil> I was confirming that I approve an outgoing payment, alas.
[17:47:55] <FatPhil> the code was 74747!
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[19:07:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Thunderbolt Flaw Lets Hackers Steal Your Data in 'Five Minutes' - https://sylnt.us - who-remembers-firewire?
[21:16:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Reveal New Insights of Exploding Massive Stars and Future Gravitational Wave Detectors - https://sylnt.us - Ka-Boom!
[23:22:21] <chromas> the double rainbow guy died. where's the soylent obit?
[23:23:24] <chromas> and Jerry Stiller. Coincidence?
[23:27:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - I've Seen Things You People Wouldn't Believe -- Spacecraft with Graphene Sails Powered by Starlight - https://sylnt.us - sailing-sailing-through-the-deep-black
[23:28:46] <chromas> What do you mean, "you people"?
[23:29:10] <chromas> =yt tropic thunder you people
[23:29:11] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Tropic Thunder (6/10) Movie CLIP - What Do You Mean, You People? (2008) HD (01:39)