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[22:16:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Zoom Acquires Keybase to Bring End-to-End Encryption to Video Platform - https://sylnt.us - all-your-keybase-are-belong-to-us
[21:39:43] <Bytram> gnawed gnawed
[21:33:11] <FatPhil> I'll scribble up a prediction with reasoning on my website tomorrow, I might be overlooking something, it's late, and I'm on the barrel aged imperial stouts already.
[21:32:23] <FatPhil> healthdata.org predict ~1000, but the middle of my bell-curve is more like 1400-1600.
[21:31:13] <Bytram> nod nod
[21:30:58] <FatPhil> the corona.help site seems to have what I need - it's way easier to eyeball from a graph than raw data.
[21:28:28] <systemd> ^ 03AZDHS | COVID-19 Dashboards
[21:28:27] <systemd> ^ 03United States Coronavirus: 1,287,552 Cases and 76,693 Deaths - Worldometer
[21:28:26] <Bytram> FatPhil: fwiw, there's a footnote on https://www.worldometers.info saying they source from: https://www.azdhs.gov
[21:22:32] <Bytram> k
[21:22:20] <FatPhil> Bytram: that's my main source, but Arizona doesn't drill down yet
[21:21:58] <FatPhil> Argh - nope, I've been fooled by this before - it seems to cache data, and so you get out-of-date figures.
[21:20:37] <systemd> ^ 03Coronavirus Update (Live): 3,898,736 Cases and 269,548 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer
[21:20:35] <Bytram> FatPhil: Haven't tried before, but suspect you can drill down from here: https://www.worldometers.info
[21:19:12] <systemd> ^ 03IHME | COVID-19 Projections
[21:19:11] <FatPhil> Fuxtix, it looks like this site is pulling numbers out of its arse: https://covid19.healthdata.org - so that eyeballing is literally shit.
[21:16:43] <systemd> ^ 03Arizona coronavirus information and stats
[21:16:42] <FatPhil> Aha! https://www.corona.help
[21:15:20] <FatPhil> Having said that, Gieseke kinda said the same thing. "Who cares what the stats are now, compare them after a year", or suchlike.
[21:13:28] <FatPhil> or whatever it was.
[21:13:20] <FatPhil> It's like /South Park/ - "we've got to stop them telling"
[21:12:44] <FatPhil> yeah, that's the reason I posted the link
[21:11:33] <chromas> can't say atodaso if there's no predictions
[21:09:26] <FatPhil> fearing the worst behaviour from the masses, and eyeballing an extrapolation, I can see it hitting 400-450.
[21:07:43] <FatPhil> All I've got is the kaputniks graph, which doesn't give me enough of a picture.
[21:07:02] <FatPhil> Anyone got any daily case stats for Arizona? I've just got to do a projection given that attitude.
[20:47:50] <systemd> ^ 03Arizona responds to projected rise in cases by ordering end to models
[20:47:50] <FatPhil> you can't make this up: https://www.salon.com
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[16:48:38] <boru> The original planters in Ulster were scottish protestants, that's where it comes from.
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[16:48:20] <boru> The whole catholic vs. protestant thing was mostly a BBC invention to further sow division. It was Irish vs. British.
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[16:47:28] <boru> There were prods in the provos as well.
[16:46:47] <FatPhil> So were there probs between the prods and the provos?
[16:43:28] <FatPhil> i read it ~15 years ago, so that edition didn't even exist
[16:43:04] <FatPhil> Oooh, the printing I read didn['t have htat cover on, but I forget exactly what it had instead.
[16:42:37] <boru> Protestants
[16:42:08] <FatPhil> prods?
[16:40:59] <boru> With a cover like that, I figured it'd be about the prods alright.
[16:40:17] <FatPhil> Well, if you like truthbombs being dropped on Scotland, that is.
[16:39:30] <FatPhil> boru: I recommend Hopsbawm's /The Invention of Tradition/, good "little room" reading.
[16:38:05] * Soycow_Lover considers falling bed
[16:35:50] <Soycow_Lover> Excellent stuff . . .
[16:35:43] <Soycow_Lover> sampled more wine than I imagined existed
[16:35:31] <Soycow_Lover> Met a wine maker while in Scotland too
[16:34:58] <boru> That's because they forget to burn off the methanol.
[16:34:53] <Soycow_Lover> When you crawl home, then maybe you've had enough
[16:34:43] <Soycow_Lover> Never! If you still have to walk home, you've not had enough!
[16:34:12] <boru> Too much scotch, I'd imagine.
[16:33:51] <Soycow_Lover> I dunno, I found the Scottish women to be quite discerning
[16:33:13] <boru> Like most things Scottish, they take something Irish, and then do a bad job of it.
[16:32:56] <Soycow_Lover> Ripped them? I dunno, but ripping is fun, isn't it?
[16:32:39] <boru> There's no such thing as good scotch./
[16:32:24] <boru> Wasn't it one of the other Id Software guys that ripped off a bunch of 80s and 90s metal songs for the Doom soundtrack?
[16:31:58] <Soycow_Lover> but, he couldn't afford good Scotch whiskey?
[16:31:29] <boru> Nonesense -- many a man have moved to finally get a decent bottle of whiskey.
[16:31:16] <Soycow_Lover> RIAA may want him for performing some of his own stuff
[16:31:05] <Soycow_Lover> you reckon he's dodging a warrant?
[16:30:50] <Soycow_Lover> me either
[16:30:37] <Soycow_Lover> lots of donors, just about all the local businesses, some private individuals, couple political figures
[16:30:36] <boru> Aye, great to see that sort of solidarity. I just had no idea that John Romero lived in Ireland now.
[16:30:12] <Soycow_Lover> They been advertising on the local radio, Friday and Saturday, they'll be distributing boxes of groceries around here
[16:29:31] <Soycow_Lover> Watched the video, boru - watched the boxes of groceries being distributed
[16:20:04] <systemd> ^ 03'The favour is returned': 173 years on, Irish donors thank Native Americans
[16:20:02] <boru> Heh, following up from the other day about that story about Ireland helping the Choctaw nation in the US for covid19, the national news outlet interviewed "a Native American living in Galway". I wonder if they realised just who he is: https://www.youtube.com
[16:08:08] <chromas> If past tense of "pay" is "paid", shouldn't "X-Ray" be "X-RAID"?
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[15:00:06] <Bytram> IIRC, it's generally around 8 weeks until puppies would be put up for adoption, but those are *old* recolllections, best to check a more reliable source than me on this!
[14:58:48] <Bytram> Well, there's not many pet food stores in the wild.
[14:58:32] <Bytram> interesting!
[14:47:33] <Soycow_Lover> I can't say how much he might be exaggerating, but sister in law confirms the story
[14:47:02] <Soycow_Lover> pups found the food, and made it disappear
[14:46:51] <Soycow_Lover> their eyes weren't even open yet, he killed a rabbit and cut it up into little bitty chunks
[14:46:32] <Soycow_Lover> Brother in law told me about some pups he raised before I became part of the family
[14:45:49] <Soycow_Lover> Didn't see her for a couple days, and went searching
[14:45:28] <Soycow_Lover> can't be real sure because Mama sneaked off from the house to have them
[14:45:07] <Soycow_Lover> I think they are just about 3 weeks old now
[14:40:09] <Bytram> as long as they are still growing and active, I'd not worry about it too much. Just check with your vet in case you have any concerns. Good luck!
[14:37:54] <Bytram> how old now?
[14:37:46] <Bytram> may take a while until their digestive system can actually process it and derive sustenance from it.
[14:32:59] <Soycow_Lover> then they started clamoriing for the bottle
[14:32:49] <Soycow_Lover> The little monsters don't really know what it's for yet, but they both seem to have swallowed a little
[14:32:18] <Soycow_Lover> pedigree canned puppy food, chopped chicken and beef
[13:53:43] <drussell> no worries...
[13:53:41] <drussell> ok, we'll chat later... :)
[13:53:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> cool cool. ima bugger off for now though.
[13:52:56] <drussell> I'll set up whatever you guys would like....
[13:52:30] <drussell> No worries... I'm happy to oblige if there's anything I can provide... I can do up invoices at $0 or some token amount if that helps make things official, liability/legality wise...
[13:51:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> anyway, i got offline crap that i wanna do today. i'll hit you up some later time/date about what we can work up for an offsite backup.
[13:50:01] <drussell> although I still get over 90, usually 93-95 on most speed test sites.... (and this is only on a 100 Mbps port, without jumbo frames enabled)
[13:49:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> well it's my desktop and apache is only for linking random crap i wanna share
[13:49:15] <drussell> I get better send rates than down...
[13:49:03] <drussell> :) lol, TMB
[13:48:56] <drussell> rsync reported an AVERAGE speed of 10,034,539.06 from ftp3.us.freebsd.org when I mirrored the repository
[13:48:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> and i don't give near enough of a shit to fix it right now
[13:48:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - European Authorities Ban Dirty Cookie Practices in GDPR Update - https://sylnt.us - clean-your-dough
[13:48:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'd link you a file to download and time but apparently apache started 403ing everything some time back
[13:47:08] <drussell> Mbps that is
[13:46:59] <drussell> I think it was chromas who said he got 9?
[13:46:43] <drussell> well, one guy did...
[13:46:37] <drussell> Oh, how the net has changed since the 90s... haha :)
[13:46:25] <drussell> I still can't believe everyone in here is too paranoid to try FTPing a file out of ftp.saturn-tech.com... :)
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[13:39:39] <drussell> indeed... :)
[13:39:23] <drussell> I honestly don't know the specs on the latest equipment that most providers are using
[13:39:03] <drussell> but I think the upstream on those DOCSIS3 modems only goes to 35 max or something...
[13:38:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> not great but it'll do in an emergency
[13:38:44] <drussell> I was going to say, it's usually not more than 10% like 15 mbps on a 150 mbps down...
[13:38:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm, not sure. like 10Mb i think.
[13:37:33] <drussell> but if you had to restore... :)
[13:37:28] <drussell> Didn't matter for you making a backup INTO your system , of course...
[13:37:15] <drussell> What is your upstream like on there?
[13:37:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> 1Gb cable, yeah
[13:36:52] <drussell> :)
[13:36:49] <drussell> you must be reasonably well connected to the net then, also...
[13:36:12] * TheMightyBuzzard just backed up every server (os and everything) to his desktop the other day
[13:36:05] <drussell> One of our customers who is on a dedicated DSL link to here has an array of 10 8TB drives... haha
[13:35:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> so >= that is peachy
[13:35:40] <drussell> oh, that's nothing... :)
[13:35:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> our current box has 100GB (that we can't get to)
[13:34:18] <drussell> How many TB are we talking?
[13:34:12] <drussell> that server still has all the stuff from what was my dad's main office router/BSD server back in the day... :)
[13:33:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> drussell, how're you fixed for spare storage capacity? we're actually in the market for a new offsite backup box.
[13:32:55] <drussell> 21 years is pretty good for operational lifetime of an OS install, no?
[13:32:10] <drussell> 2.2.8-STABLE FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE #0: Tue Mar 30 18:37:35 MST 1999
[13:32:07] <drussell> it's the one still running 2.2.8:
[13:31:06] <drussell> looks like 612 is my highest right now
[13:31:05] <systemd> https://www.nytimes.com - Film: 'Lord of Rings' From Ralph Bakshi:Animated Mythology - The ...
[13:31:04] <Bytram> =g "in the land of modor where the "
[13:30:59] <drussell> 7:29AM up 612 days, 11:31, 1 user, load averages: 0.75, 0.88, 0.67
[13:29:49] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Mordor - Wikipedia
[13:29:48] <Bytram> =g in the land of modor where the
[13:29:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't really care much about shadowserver. if someone else does, they can fund them.
[13:26:39] <drussell> was too busy messing with new connections and replacement stuff around here to even know what day it is
[13:26:08] <drussell> I was going to submit a story when I saw about it a week or so ago, but since I don't know if anyone even cares, I never got around to it
[13:25:17] <drussell> I've never used / relied on shadowserver.org but I know there are some who do, one way or another
[13:24:50] <drussell> so, what is the consensus? does the IT community care about the shadowserver/cisco thing?
[13:23:09] <drussell> eventually, just for security fixes if nothing else
[13:22:56] <drussell> These days it is more difficult to get multi-year uptimes, just because you typically end up needing to update your kernel
[13:22:13] <drussell> and named has been updated, it's not the stock 2.2.8 version... haha
[13:21:43] <drussell> like I said, I still have a 2.2.8 box doing nameservice but it just has port 53 forwarded to it from another machine that is actually public
[13:21:35] <FatPhil> damn, my 855 looks pathetic now.
[13:20:57] <drussell> As long as it's not direct on the internet or you've updated a few things, applied a few security patches, unless the kernel itself has major holes you're probably still fine :)
[13:20:10] <drussell> :)
[13:20:04] <inz> hmm, 1263 days, hope my kernel ain't full of remote 'sploits
[13:20:01] <drussell> even the "small" chassis of those paradyne units had a single AC in and then DC bus A and DC bus B for use in a CO
[13:19:23] <FatPhil> from the colour of the lightning when it exploded, I think mine was using 30MV internally
[13:19:04] <drussell> I think I actually had that one rigged up to the rack of paradyne chassis on the -48V DC bus after I fixed it
[13:18:29] <drussell> used 48v internally for the batteries, so that was nice...
[13:18:12] <drussell> My ups that quit was an old, old, old, Tycor...
[13:17:40] <drussell> Do we run rings around the competition? Well, we try, at least... :)
[13:17:31] <FatPhil> mine have all been the fault of the leccy-company. And don't mention UPSs, or I'll hit you round the head with what remains of my DEC Alpha after the UPS it was plugged into blew up!
[13:17:04] <drussell> I would have had three more with really high uptimes back then but one of my UPSs blew up and cut power to several servers even though the power was on, back in about 1999
[13:16:41] <MrPlow> https://en.wikipedia.org - "The MP5 (German: Maschinenpistole 5) is a 9x19mm Parabellum submachine gun, developed in the 1960s by a team of engineers from the German small arms ..."
[13:16:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> #g mp5
[13:16:15] <drussell> I think my highest were 1100-something days... just over 1000
[13:16:10] <FatPhil> do you run rings around the opposition?
[13:16:03] <drussell> not sure how long linode has been around but probably not as long... :)
[13:15:45] <drussell> anyway, the name of the company is Saturn Computer Technologies, we've been around since 1986.
[13:15:36] <FatPhil> grrrr, still 6 months away from my first 1000-day uptime. Damn that exploding DEC Alpha in the 00s, it was so close!
[13:15:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't cotton to hot-switching kernels/modules. you're almost guaranteed to still have old stuff not flushed out because something was still using it.
[13:14:33] <drussell> it is just nice when YOU decide when do to it :)
[13:14:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[13:14:18] <drussell> well and sooner or later a reboot IS necessary, even just to boot a newer kernel
[13:13:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't mind those too much except the times they forget to notify us a week or so ahead of time
[13:13:34] <drussell> you can run 1000 days uptime on my servers, I don't need to boot you or move you or whatever... haha
[13:13:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> true
[13:13:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'true. still very small cap though.
[13:13:13] <drussell> Well wouldn't have constant upgrades and reboots either forced by linode...
[13:12:27] <drussell> but I'm not in charge... :)
[13:12:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> vps is a bit easier to admin remotely though cause you don't gotta worry about "hey, man, could you go over and cycle the power on $blah? it froze up."
[13:12:13] <drussell> just seems like a huge percentage of the donated operating costs go to paying for essentially unnecessary server fees...
[13:11:25] <drussell> no, probably not
[13:11:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> well mostly because i don't think anyone at linode uses SN or even knows who we are except at billing time
[13:11:11] <drussell> I co-locate servers for lots of people
[13:11:08] <Ingar> "contracts"
[13:11:02] <Ingar> it's probably not about "secure" but about "cotnracts" and "liability"
[13:10:42] <drussell> I offered... :)
[13:10:38] <drussell> not sure why hosting with linode would be more "secure" but ok...
[13:10:21] * TheMightyBuzzard nods
[13:10:12] <drussell> It can be a dedicated server, I don't need access, but... whatever...
[13:09:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar. anything we put on a non-paid-for server run by someone not staff would need to be encrypted though. user data privacy and all that.
[13:08:33] <drussell> If I'd been able to provide this when SN started, I would have... but I didn't have 2.488 Gbps coming into my NOC at the time... :)
[13:08:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> had an offsite backup server but it quit talking ssh and the fuckers don't provide a console
[13:08:01] <drussell> but if you guys just want to keep everything at linode and pay for them, that's fine too
[13:07:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> two load balancers, two frontends, two db nodes, one external services box, one internal services box
[13:07:22] <drussell> I'm happy to run a couple of them from here for free
[13:07:06] <drussell> Well, linode is great, but having all in one basket is bad
[13:06:58] <drussell> but they're all linode which is bad
[13:06:53] <drussell> yeah, I know, got many, multiple servers which is good....
[13:06:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah. we got plenty of spare capacity. mostly we keep so much for redundancy and less downtime.
[13:05:44] <drussell> It can't actually be that intensive, is it?
[13:05:31] <drussell> Well, yeah, I know most of it is "server" cost vs bandwidth.... I can supply server HW also
[13:05:02] <drussell> I've been using FreeBSD for pretty much everything since I first grabbed 1.1.5.1 from wcarchive... :)
[13:03:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> even counting offsite backups
[13:03:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> drussell, we don't even use a tenth of the bandwidth we get allotted with our servers
[13:02:27] <Teckla> Ah. Cool.
[13:02:13] <drussell> 12.1-STABLE
[13:01:59] <Teckla> drussell: Replaced with what?
[13:01:56] <drussell> I use it for virtually everything here...
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[13:01:36] <Teckla> I used to run it at home, and connect to it from work, so I could do personal stuff in privacy.
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[13:01:21] <drussell> but it's getting replaced today or tomorrow (finally... haha)
[13:01:09] <drussell> just has port 53 forwarded to it
[13:01:04] <Teckla> Wow, nice.
[13:00:54] <drussell> Haven't touched it sibnce 99 except a few software security fix recompiles, basically...
[13:00:30] <drussell> One of my nameservers is still running 2.2.8 :)
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[13:00:02] <Teckla> I used to use FreeBSD. Great OS.
[12:59:56] * Teckla chuckles
[12:59:36] <Bender> karma - freebsd: 6
[12:59:36] <drussell> FreeBSD++
[12:59:31] <Bender> karma - linux: 0
[12:59:31] <drussell> linux--
[12:59:23] <Bender> karma - linux: 1
[12:59:23] <Teckla> linux++
[12:59:11] <drussell> I'm still willing to provide free bandwidth for SN, despite the wankers last night... :)
[12:59:02] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5204
[12:59:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[12:58:50] <drussell> No, NOW I'm back... :)
[12:58:47] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5203
[12:58:47] <Teckla> coffee++
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[12:58:25] <SoyGuest6075> Ok, I think I'm back now... :)
[12:46:42] * Teckla is old and remembers semi-weekly trips to Blockbuster to rent movies.
[12:46:27] <systemd> ^ 03Template Toolkit Home Page
[12:46:25] <Bytram> FWIW. because I only found it a few months ago: http://www.template-toolkit.org
[12:45:34] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: no idea.
[12:43:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> um, how is template_tool broken?
[12:43:11] <AndyTheAbsurd> Or whatever it was that Blockbuster used to put on rental VHS tapes.
[12:42:58] <Bender> todo for themightybuzzard: 1) utf8mb4 upgrade 2) filter comments by score in the api 3) fix template_tool 4) fix the api 5) collapse spam comments by default regardless of score
[12:42:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> !todo
[12:42:56] <AndyTheAbsurd> "Please be kind and remember to rewind."
[12:42:33] <Bender> nothing todo for martyb ;]
[12:42:33] <Bytram> !todo
[12:42:24] <Bytram> !remind
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[10:54:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://techraptor.net Because censoring anything you find offensive is <i>always</i> the right answer.
[10:48:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... should i go ahead and swap sodium over to gentoo since it's all fresh in my head and sodium's not being used currently?
[10:47:00] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
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[10:37:22] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 770
[10:37:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++ #smoke break
[10:37:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh he's plenty big enough an asshole for that. his douchebag level is over nine thousand.
[10:32:49] <FatPhil> never really considered Axl ROse to be the kinda guy to be engaging with career politicians
[10:32:14] <FatPhil> It’s official! Whatever anyone may have previously thought of Steve Mnuchin he’s officially an asshole. — Axl Rose (@axlrose) May 6, 2020
[09:59:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net
[09:57:20] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5202
[09:57:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
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[09:16:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Filming an Action Movie on the Space Station? - https://sylnt.us - i'm-ready-for-my-closeup
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[07:49:08] <janrinok> SoyGuest6075, if you want to change to our usual ed channel I can chat with you there
[07:05:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US Space Force Debuts First Recruitment Ad and Previously Secret Spacecraft - https://sylnt.us - waiting-in-the-wings:-Russia-and-China
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[05:10:09] <kyonko> didn't know that guy was there, had 7 days uptime on cygwin on windows 10
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[04:58:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Closest Black Hole to Earth Found "Hiding in Plain Sight" - https://sylnt.us - Only-in-astronomy-is-~1000-light-years-away-"nearby"
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[03:55:58] <kyonko> they know i'm the only regional on irc
[03:55:31] <kyonko> state won't come clean on its surveillence capabilities, the lockheed martin "virtual wall"
[03:55:07] <kyonko> we have the latest tech here, shitty tech, surveillence tech included for the state
[03:54:48] <SoyGuest6075> I always wanted to run a Radio Shack when I was a kid in the 70s ... :)
[03:54:40] <kyonko> how big is calgary that it is full of the latest tech?
[03:54:28] <SoyGuest6075> I should have bought the whole store...
[03:54:03] <SoyGuest6075> still had din-> RCA cords for .79 when I was last in there
[03:53:39] <SoyGuest6075> Probably dead by now...
[03:53:36] <kyonko> the openbsd founder
[03:53:30] <SoyGuest6075> who? Voss?
[03:53:19] <SoyGuest6075> no
[03:53:18] <kyonko> is he still in the area?
[03:53:10] <SoyGuest6075> no
[03:53:01] <SoyGuest6075> Got some of the last like 1990s Philips tweeters from him to buld a big retro console about 10yr ago....
[03:52:48] <kyonko> are you theo deraadt?
[03:52:18] <kyonko> you ever met theo deraadt?
[03:52:14] <SoyGuest6075> since ol' man Voss went out of business...
[03:52:12] <Deucalion> I have a big Sony Trinitron CRT on a Sony stand with glass shelf if anyone wants it. Works fine, can't bring myself to just landfill it even though I do not use it, the picture quality is great. Free to good home, buyer pays shipping (it's a heavy bastard).
[03:51:58] <SoyGuest6075> only one left in Calgary that I know that has them in stock to the public....
[03:51:41] <SoyGuest6075> I have thousands of vacuum tubes in stock...
[03:51:22] <SoyGuest6075> Do you have an E-200C?
[03:50:56] <SoyGuest6075> Have to send the audio in seperately or to stereo but does 720p
[03:50:49] <kyonko> are some kind of oilman?
[03:50:25] <SoyGuest6075> DVI input
[03:50:14] <SoyGuest6075> very rare
[03:50:10] <SoyGuest6075> I have some HD big widescreen ones
[03:49:55] <SoyGuest6075> Excellent picture...
[03:49:40] <SoyGuest6075> the red guns go weak if they're grandma TVs left on all day
[03:49:06] <SoyGuest6075> I need to pull ot the CR-70 and test a bunch though...
[03:48:46] <kyonko> crt's belong in museums
[03:48:44] <SoyGuest6075> Oh, many trinitrons....
[03:48:16] <Deucalion> SoyGuest6075, you are making my bagpipe jiggle again... stop it with the ftp noise.
[03:48:05] <kyonko> real CRT's? trinitrons?
[03:47:48] <SoyGuest6075> I'm staring at 5 CRTs now, is that bad?
[03:47:21] <kyonko> i had a bit of a freak out when I chose to get into retro computing
[03:47:02] <kyonko> no more crt bullshit, i'll give you that
[03:47:01] <SoyGuest6075> no, it is supposed to be totally unofficial
[03:46:38] <SoyGuest6075> maybe if I turn up the crunch it will be ftp.ca.freebsd.org... haha
[03:46:31] <kyonko> i'll be trying ancient bsd once I image my windows 98 machines
[03:46:10] <kyonko> there is no hiding the eyes on this one
[03:46:08] <SoyGuest6075> ftp.saturn-tech.com
[03:45:51] <kyonko> i look the part, mongoloid
[03:45:37] <SoyGuest6075> Canadian... Are you eskimo?
[03:45:23] <kyonko> are you indian?
[03:45:17] <SoyGuest6075> that runs under asterisk
[03:45:02] <SoyGuest6075> but I think I'll just trunk them in via SIP and get a few 4 or 8 port FXO/FXS cards and make something up
[03:44:40] <kyonko> i have ancient hardware
[03:44:23] <kyonko> oh i get you know, you have ancient bsd, for ancient hardware
[03:44:05] <SoyGuest6075> I wanna run the actual hardware back to my BBS machines and early internet PPP servers, as a mater of principle
[03:43:58] <kyonko> i like my computers and networking like my fire
[03:43:45] <kyonko> what is this, internet for lumbersexuals?
[03:43:28] <SoyGuest6075> even though I can emulat it in asterisk
[03:43:16] <SoyGuest6075> Yeah, I actully want to put a bank of I-Modems or NetServers back online, juust for the fun of it
[03:42:29] <kyonko> which is stil slooooooooooooow
[03:42:28] <SoyGuest6075> Even the old Vonage lines could to higher, like 48K on the downstream side
[03:42:17] <kyonko> isdn speeds on voip?
[03:41:56] <SoyGuest6075> you can actually ge 56K or higher
[03:41:50] <kyonko> here you had to use alligator clips and still do
[03:41:44] <SoyGuest6075> Yeah,, I have them set up
[03:41:30] <SoyGuest6075> but I can go outside and plug a phone directly into the NID and call you if you don't believe it's me... :) haha
[03:41:03] <kyonko> voip would be ideal for bbs
[03:40:40] <kyonko> has anyone tried 56k dial up on voip?
[03:40:07] <SoyGuest6075> It's screwed up today due to the Telus shit
[03:39:58] <kyonko> would bbs work on voip?
[03:39:33] * Deucalion grows tit beards, jiggles and twerks while squeezing a bagpipe between the knees while heading for the horizon
[03:39:32] <chromas> if you can connect with telnet then it's retro. needs xml or binary protocolses
[03:39:31] <kyonko> i have voip on this
[03:39:28] <SoyGuest6075> Still have the number
[03:39:17] <SoyGuest6075> SuperSpace BBS
[03:39:16] <kyonko> SoyGuest49484: its a spaceway satellite, which one I don't fucking know, i'd have to connect to my router
[03:39:11] <SoyGuest6075> look it up...
[03:39:05] <SoyGuest6075> 4032466354 is my BBS number...
[03:38:32] <Deucalion> I've been irc since it existed. But OK. This is retro somehow... dunno... seems normal to me. I should get out more and adopt the endless stream of messaging proprietary things that come and go every few years and require everyone to jump ship each time. Or you know... just like POTS... decide on an open standard and just go with it. Wait no... stupid idea... can't monetise that or give it a new monicker. ~le sigh~
[03:38:08] <SoyGuest6075> What is the freq? circular or linear or are you way off the lynsat chart in the weeds on some specialized sat internet feed?
[03:37:00] <kyonko> its unaffordable
[03:36:53] <kyonko> another satellite internet company uses v-band spotbeams
[03:36:32] <kyonko> its everyone's signal going down really
[03:36:21] <kyonko> we also have viasat and exede
[03:36:17] <SoyGuest6075> I can probably pull your signal and analyze on the SDR
[03:36:16] <kyonko> its hughesnet
[03:36:09] <kyonko> i don't know, but its powered by the coax cable from the modem
[03:35:55] <SoyGuest6075> What kind of LNB are you running?
[03:35:48] <kyonko> is this for tv?
[03:35:35] <SoyGuest6075> I have a big eliptical dish with a motor on it on the roof...
[03:35:33] <kyonko> how long before someone get aaron schwartz'ed over running an illegal point to point network
[03:34:50] <kyonko> we're only connected here because we figured how to do more with less with math
[03:34:29] <kyonko> its bad ass you are well communicated in alberta of all places
[03:34:10] <SoyGuest6075> Paradyne HotWire 5446 system
[03:33:51] <kyonko> the irc normies from the 1990's who never left
[03:33:38] <kyonko> i'm on irc with educated but non CS nerds, they talk differently
[03:33:11] <SoyGuest6075> I still run a bunch of dry coppers myself
[03:33:02] <Deucalion> <kyonko> wow this is so fucking retro <<<< it is irc... like 32 years retro Bro.. grow a beard and wear a check shirt or something... and vape.. wait is that now retro too?
[03:33:00] <kyonko> geostationary satellite is worth it, for the 5Mbps you get from 2AM to 6AM
[03:32:37] <SoyGuest6075> This is not like the NBN :)
[03:32:24] <kyonko> I had a CSU/DSU in 2013 or so untill the corrosion happened on the line
[03:32:15] <SoyGuest6075> Dave Jones would be sad
[03:32:01] <SoyGuest6075> I should do a video....
[03:31:54] <SoyGuest6075> both within like 700-1000m of the Killarney CO
[03:31:32] <Deucalion> I may be IRC Admin but I don't get all anal about keeping track of people and we keep bugger all logs
[03:31:31] <kyonko> in alberta..... hmm
[03:31:29] <SoyGuest6075> That's just down the street...
[03:31:21] <SoyGuest6075> and office..
[03:31:14] <SoyGuest6075> UNLIMITED bandwidth to drussell's house :)
[03:31:00] <kyonko> the deathrow openvms cluster died
[03:30:57] <SoyGuest6075> yeah, I can see the fiber pedestal from my kitchen window....
[03:30:44] <kyonko> wow this is so fucking retro
[03:30:39] <SoyGuest6075> alberta high speed internet access
[03:30:30] <SoyGuest6075> just abhsia.telus.net or sinething
[03:30:13] <SoyGuest6075> I probably have no reverse
[03:29:55] <SoyGuest6075> :)
[03:29:50] <SoyGuest6075> but we're re-arranging the network
[03:29:36] <SoyGuest6075> Usually I should show as logged in from gwa.saturn-tech.com
[03:29:28] <Deucalion> sorry
[03:29:22] * Deucalion was mistaken
[03:29:15] <Deucalion> Smells like EF... bring on the cock extenders
[03:29:06] <SoyGuest6075> I'm drussell on the main site
[03:28:41] <SoyGuest6075> Be back online on one of the laptops shortly.... haha
[03:28:21] <Deucalion> your*
[03:28:15] <Deucalion> SoyGuest6075, what is you usual nick?
[03:28:02] <SoyGuest6075> Have fun, gents....
[03:27:58] <kyonko> its pretty much the region, the state and the world regarding facebook
[03:27:47] <SoyGuest6075> yeah, when I get back on my actual nic I'll ignore
[03:27:40] <kyonko> i don't really care for facebook, I ended up being the product
[03:27:16] <Deucalion> The takeaway is everyone kyonko knows is on facebook, not actually everyone or even most people, just their little echo chamber group.
[03:27:15] <SoyGuest6075> right now, actually
[03:27:06] <SoyGuest6075> hiring
[03:26:57] <SoyGuest6075> Well, I'm hriring right now but if that's your job qualifications, then.... well... no.. :) sorry, man
[03:26:55] <kyonko> i'd bet my ass facebook's trade secret is user convenience and 1-step process
[03:26:18] <kyonko> irc is like herding cats and pulling teeth
[03:26:10] <kyonko> irc? lol
[03:26:08] <kyonko> if not facebook, twitter, instagram, youtube, then how?
[03:25:26] <kyonko> people actually need facebook to find employment
[03:25:22] <Deucalion> SoyGuest6075, as with most irc /ignore
[03:24:48] <SoyGuest6075> I'm pretty sure when I actually log in there's some way to mute kyonko.... no offense, my friend... :)
[03:23:46] <kyonko> everyone is on facebook
[03:23:42] <SoyGuest6075> twitter nooo bueno
[03:23:42] <kyonko> well good luck buddy
[03:23:38] <kyonko> oh you are one of those
[03:23:24] <SoyGuest6075> nooooo facebook eeeeevil
[03:23:04] <kyonko> idfk
[03:23:01] <kyonko> twitter?
[03:22:58] <SoyGuest6075> Diddily, doodily, there Deucalion... :)
[03:22:45] <kyonko> #c is on efnet
[03:22:29] <kyonko> SoyGuest49484: have you tried facebook for the mechanical turk effect?
[03:22:00] <SoyGuest6075> I never said I want feedback NOW... :)
[03:21:27] <SoyGuest6075> Indeed, this is not the #c of ole; ... :)
[03:20:03] <Deucalion> SoyGuest6075, have some patience my man, there maybe 58 ppl in channel, some are bots, most are users using irc bouncers and not here right now. This isn't fucking Mechanical Turk where you pop up and go "Everyone download X and give me feedback because I want feedback NOW" - it's an IRC channel. Sheesh.... enjoy your wine carboy, sleep it off and hopefully come back with a better attitude.
[03:19:44] <SoyGuest6075> almost better that typ-o guy earlier... hmmm...
[03:18:37] <SoyGuest6075> you guys sound crackpot... :)
[03:09:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> so's my blender
[03:09:31] <kyonko> right now i'm on linux mint
[03:09:21] <kyonko> i used nomadbsd, its plug and play
[03:09:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, i done did that. gonna sleep now.
[03:09:04] <SoyGuest6075> report back a location and speed of any random file, fo all I care... sheesh....
[03:08:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> da hell i want with a freebsd mirror?
[03:08:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's all the corporate sekrits you're getting out of me tonight though. is bedtime.
[03:08:42] <SoyGuest6075> whatever... you guys could at least try logging in to ftp.saturn-tech.com... the only thing online yet is a FreeBSD mirror
[03:07:17] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews/rehash
[03:07:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://github.com
[03:07:10] <kyonko> this is like a pulling teeth sort of social network
[03:06:39] <Deucalion> kyonko, SN code is on github, open source as we forked the last release available of slashcode. It was reworked to function on up to date systems and called Rehash. Tis all on the wiki somewhere. Much time and sweat went into it. Some politicing went on along the way.
[03:06:35] <SoyGuest6075> I saw a copy recently but I can't find it now
[03:06:24] <kyonko> 94? man might as well have well.com and io.com
[03:06:11] <SoyGuest6075> It had wording I would like to emulate on my welcome screen
[03:05:03] <SoyGuest6075> You have a copy from like 94?
[03:04:49] <SoyGuest6075> to
[03:04:40] <SoyGuest6075> I'm trying ti figure out the wording....
[03:04:08] <kyonko> its on archive.org?
[03:03:55] <SoyGuest6075> Does anyone have an archive of the old welcome screen at wcarchive.cdrom.com?
[03:03:51] <kyonko> it stayed beta for a decade?
[03:03:49] <Deucalion> Possibly...
[03:03:44] <Deucalion> There may be some details I skipped there
[03:03:06] * Deucalion looks misty eyed.... it was a long time ago... there was /. and then FUCK BETA then there was angry people shouting "FUCK BETA" and then soylent happened
[03:02:17] <kyonko> was this code supposed to be secret? sorta like 2ch code?
[03:02:03] <chromas> it all started when someone downloaded a tarball from an anonymous ftpd
[03:01:44] <kyonko> i remember something about slashdot becoming bloatted
[03:01:37] <kyonko> i forgot, how did this site start again?
[03:00:20] <Deucalion> kyonko, no-one gets paid salary, no dividends are paid, it is all volunteer effort. The infra and legal costs are covered by donations and we rarely run a surplus.
[02:58:22] <SoyGuest6075> and it should stay that way
[02:58:22] <Deucalion> kyonko, we cover costs - that's about it
[02:58:07] <kyonko> oh wait, no ads
[02:58:01] <kyonko> how much profit does soylent news have?
[02:57:29] <Deucalion> SoyGuest6075, actual SN admins? I'm the CEO and IRC Admin. Do let me know who you would rather speak to and figure is more "real" in your eyes.
[02:57:11] <SoyGuest6075> har, har... :) back later
[02:56:21] <kyonko> it's peanut butter jelly time
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[02:56:01] <SoyGuest6075> but if any of the actual SN admins want to chat, I'm all in.... got connectivity and some server grade hardware to use for the cause... :)
[02:55:55] * Deucalion jiggles and twerks
[02:55:44] <Deucalion> Why would you not want my number? I'm and angel.
[02:55:25] <Deucalion> Happy to chat but it's not going to change the situation. You'll need a tester in a different locale with more sane laws. :D
[02:54:57] <SoyGuest6075> Actually, I don't think I want YOUR number
[02:54:09] <SoyGuest6075> if you want my RL phone number, I'm happy to actually chat on the phone tomorrow, I'm UTC-7
[02:53:29] <Deucalion> Can't checksum it and compare until I download it. At that point, open it or not, if it has grime in it the law where I am puts me in jail for years. Stupid laws, I didn't make them, just have to live under them.
[02:51:48] <SoyGuest6075> Ok, whatever
[02:51:40] <SoyGuest6075> You're paranoid that downloading a txz, that you don't even open, that matches a hash from FreeBSD.org..... oh, my....
[02:51:17] <Deucalion> SoyGuest6075, don't be intentionally dumb. A file cannot be checksummed until entirely downloaded. Hence the concern for those in certain jurisdictions with backasswards laws and enforcement of same. I wish it were not so and I wish I could assist in a minor way to standing up a CA mirror for OpenBSD, but I trust nothing having seen the horrible things people do just for LULZ.
[02:50:06] <SoyGuest6075> like 270 GB of FreeBSD 11.2, 11.3, 12.0 and 12.1? releases only, no snapshots
[02:50:04] <Bytram> good night everybody!
[02:49:26] <SoyGuest6075> has anyone actually logged in and seen what is in the arcive?
[02:49:25] <Bytram> andnow I need to pad muy pillow.
[02:49:15] <Bytram> the story queur needed paddding
[02:49:05] <Bytram> that said, i was going to go to bed 2 hours ago but
[02:48:44] <Bytram> YOU *know* what it is... we *cannot* risk it, so matter how noble the endeavor.
[02:47:21] <SoyGuest6075> Seriously, you guys are worried about kiddie porn or something.... wow... I didn't know the FreeBSD archive mirror stirred up such controversy
[02:47:20] <Bytram> And, like he said, I have no reason to doubt your generosity and sincerity... but here is one point where prudence a virtue.
[02:47:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Spacex has Fired Starship's Raptor Engine and the Vehicle Still Stands - https://sylnt.us - You're-fired!-YAY!
[02:46:11] <Deucalion> transit so it would have to be a a file from urandom or something which takes us right back where we came in :D
[02:46:11] <Deucalion> How is a file download over FTP a stream? A file is moved from source to destination, the content of that file cannot be verified until the file has completed transfer. In some jurisdictions there are stupid laws and stupid enforcers of those laws and stupid end results as a result of those two things. That just is. And nope filling a file with zeroes really wouldn't achieve anything as it would be compressed on your storage and compressed in
[02:46:09] <SoyGuest6075> Nobody told you to RUN anything from this server
[02:45:30] <Bytram> SoyGuest6075: What he says is true. It can be serious jail time for possession -- no matter how briefly.
[02:45:29] <SoyGuest6075> I'm pretty sure I'm still in sync
[02:45:08] <SoyGuest6075> That's why we have checksums in ftp archives.... Go, ahead, compare my "today" mirror rsynced yesterday from ftp3.us to today's checksum :)
[02:42:10] <SoyGuest6075> I could make you a 000.000 file full of 00 00 zeroes but I'm sure that still wouldn't satisfy you anyway....
[02:40:08] <SoyGuest6075> Would you like a send-only upload that I send straight to /dev/null?
[02:39:33] <SoyGuest6075> Seriously, you're worried abou the contents of the stream?! lol
[02:34:59] <Deucalion> porn just because the file existed even if no evidence of opening said file. Sorry, but no. If you are standing up a new OpenBSD mirror for your region, good on you and thank you, I have no reason to think you are doing anything other than that, but you have to realise there are reasons why people aren't just going to download random files. I miss the days we could trust one another online but those days are long since gone.
[02:34:58] <Deucalion> SoyGuest6075, at least you are connecting via Telus seemingly originating out of CA, so a point for that. Asking people to download an unknown .tgz should rightly see no-one do that. It's a hygiene thing. That could be a .tgz full of kiddie porn vids for all anyone knows. In a lot of places by the time you get the complete file in order to hash check it against the official OpenBSD hashes it is too late and you go to jail for having kiddie
[02:30:21] <SoyGuest6075> no worries
[02:30:17] <SoyGuest6075> Or,,, shudder... compare a checksum and realize I'm not a trojan... hahaha
[02:29:29] <SoyGuest6075> I don't think I said that, but, sure... don't trust my mirror to install, I suppose, but you could at least download and give me a speed?
[02:13:04] <Deucalion> SoyGuest6075, should we trust ftp.saturn-tech.com or ftp.ca.freebsd.prg the latter doesn't seem to resolve for me even with .org on the end. Recent DNS entry? With a high TTL?
[02:12:02] <SoyGuest6075> Used to be a boot floppy but that was a long time ago :)
[02:11:41] <SoyGuest6075> I usually install FreeBSD just from a boot stick, then point it at a server....
[02:10:44] <SoyGuest6075> If you don't care, then, please, respectfully, dont object...... I'm even gonna recompile everything from 1.0 onward and make new releases., just for the vintage-folk,..
[02:09:47] <Deucalion> I get mine posted on a CD-R
[02:09:20] <chromas> Do people still download their operating systems from ftp? I thought it was torrents all the way down now
[02:08:49] <SoyGuest6075> plus I have a bunch of stuff to put in our own archive...
[02:08:26] <SoyGuest6075> for
[02:08:16] <SoyGuest6075> Heven't even finsished setting up rsync for FreebBSD-Archive, dor one thing...
[02:07:44] <SoyGuest6075> but I'm not readyyet
[02:07:34] <SoyGuest6075> I will become the western canada server
[02:07:26] <Deucalion> Why not?
[02:07:18] <SoyGuest6075> not yet!
[02:07:15] <SoyGuest6075> NO!
[02:07:00] <SoyGuest6075> for shame...
[02:06:57] <systemd> ^ 03A.2.�FTP Sites
[02:06:56] <SoyGuest6075> None of you guys seem to be even trying the server....
[02:06:56] <Deucalion> Get your server added to https://www.freebsd.org :D
[02:06:35] <SoyGuest6075> ok, off to decant the wine...
[02:06:12] <SoyGuest6075> I don't think so
[02:06:01] <SoyGuest6075> Why, do we need SoylenTorrents?
[02:05:29] <SoyGuest6075> well I suppose I am, but only in one use case
[02:04:30] <SoyGuest6075> I'm NOT trying to throughput test my server, I known I'm well connected
[02:03:27] <SoyGuest6075> :)
[02:03:24] <chromas> Do they have torrents? You could be a seeder.
[02:03:22] <SoyGuest6075> I'm just running an UNOFFICIAL mirror to test my fiber....
[02:03:17] <Deucalion> No, I wouldn't download from some random FTP server even if you authd here. Seems like a very odd way to throughput test your new server. Call me paranoid.
[02:02:48] <SoyGuest6075> We don't have any official Canadian mirrors at all right now,
[02:02:10] <SoyGuest6075> fine, don't trust my unofficial FreeBSD mirror... ok
[02:01:18] <SoyGuest6075> If you're worried about security you would be comparing those already though
[02:00:42] <SoyGuest6075> The hashes are in there
[02:00:32] <SoyGuest6075> oh, so if I ident then you'll trust my ftp.ca.freebsd.prg server? OK
[01:49:01] <Deucalion> SoyGuest6075, why would anyone download a file over FTP (of all things) from some random server on the request of some Anon?
[01:41:15] <SoyGuest6075> hello?
[01:40:30] <SoyGuest6075> Please, grab at least the latest src.tgz and report back your bandwidth!??? :)
[01:38:11] <SoyGuest6075> Seriousky, none of you are even TRYING to grab anything as a test from that new ftp server?
[01:29:14] <SoyGuest6075> :)
[01:29:09] <SoyGuest6075> greatly appreciated! l)
[01:28:41] <SoyGuest6075> Please report back your successes (or failures) for grabbing a file from ftp.saturn-tech.com
[01:27:24] <SoyGuest6075> carboy
[01:27:15] <SoyGuest6075> yet going out to decant a caroy of wine..
[01:26:48] <SoyGuest6075> at the NOC again now....
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[00:56:14] <carny> doesn't at least one of their subsystems brick itself if you try to hack on it yourself?
[00:55:43] <carny> that's tesla's next iteration
[00:49:38] <chromas> I just assumed the cars would detect nearby screwdrivers and start the shredding procedure.
[00:49:12] <AzumaHazuki> money is for bonuses, not labor
[00:49:05] <AzumaHazuki> that would cost money, you fucking commie
[00:48:18] <chromas> What? They don't automatically wipe telemetry data when you disassemble and sell the parts?
[00:47:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hacker Buys Old Tesla Parts on eBay, Finds Them Full of User Data - https://sylnt.us - if-you've-done-nothing-wrong...?
[00:30:28] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03European Authorities Ban Dirty Cookie Practices in GDPR Update" (1 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[00:30:11] <systemd> https://apps.dtic.mil - Automated Data Base Implementation Requirements for the ...
[00:30:10] <Bytram> =g PIP PDP DEC "Peripheral Interchange Processor" -bitsavers
[00:30:07] <systemd> Submitting "European Authorities Ban Dirty Cookie Practices in GDPR Update"...
[00:30:05] <guy_> =submit https://gizmodo.com
[00:30:00] <systemd> http://www.bitsavers.org - A Guide for Users
[00:29:59] <Bytram> =g PIP PDP DEC "Peripheral Interchange Processor"
[00:29:08] <systemd> http://www.bitsavers.org - A Guide for Users
[00:29:07] <Bytram> =g PDP DEC "Peripheral Interchange Processor"
[00:28:43] <systemd> http://www.bitsavers.org - A Guide for Users
[00:28:42] <Bytram> =g DEC "Peripheral Interchange Processor"
[00:28:24] <Bytram> reminded me of DEC machine I'd used. Vividly recall using PIP to transfer files -- "Peripheral Interchange Processor"
[00:26:51] <Bytram> chromas: Yes, it was an IMSAI, running CP/M.
[00:25:42] * chromas activates his matchlock autodialer
[00:24:54] <AzumaHazuki> i'm sure the founding fathers explicitly had robocalling in mind 9_9
[00:23:39] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03is There a Constitutional Right to Make Robocalls?" (12 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[00:23:18] <systemd> Submitting "Is There a Constitutional Right to Make Robocalls?"...
[00:23:16] <guy_> =submit https://www.wired.com
[00:17:32] <Bytram> chromas: clicky
[00:16:59] <AndyTheAbsurd> (The Zeos was a 386, I meant to mention that.)
[00:15:41] <systemd> ^ 03The Official IMSAI Web Site
[00:15:40] <chromas> https://imsai.net
[00:15:29] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - WarGames - Wikipedia
[00:15:28] <Bytram> =g wikipedia movie war games
[00:15:27] <AndyTheAbsurd> First an Apple ][+, then the Laser 128...eventually a Zeos something-or-other with a 40MB HDD (and I don't remember how much RAM).
[00:15:14] <chromas> imsai?
[00:15:05] <systemd> https://www.youtube.com - WarGames (11/11) Movie CLIP - The Only Winning Move (1983) HD ...
[00:15:05] <Bytram> =g move war games
[00:14:56] * Bytram bought all his own computers
[00:14:24] * Bytram actually did some [aid programming on ... it was in War Games
[00:14:08] <AndyTheAbsurd> I was too young to afford anything; my dad bought the computers.
[00:13:37] <Bytram> I recall
[00:13:30] <Bytram> apples were too pricey for me
[00:13:26] <AndyTheAbsurd> There was a clone called the "Laser 128" with 128K of memory, though.
[00:13:26] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03US Space Force Debuts First Recruitment Ad and Previously Secret Spacecraft" (12 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[00:13:09] <AndyTheAbsurd> Yup. Apple ][ series topped out at 64K IIRC.
[00:13:04] <systemd> Submitting "US Space Force debuts first recruitment ad and previously secret spacecraft"...( 1 modified urls; https://www.independent.co.uk )
[00:13:00] <guy_> =submit https://www.independent.co.uk
[00:12:45] <Bytram> and did a heck of a lot of coding on 64 KB or less.
[00:11:48] * Bytram remembers when 8 MB was "a hell of a lot of ram"
[00:11:08] <Bytram> must be the spring season or somethin. TheMightyBuzzard just built gentoo for our servers; Ubuntu has a new release out, too.
[00:10:45] <AzumaHazuki> this is my lappy, just with a hell of a lot of RAM added to it :)
[00:09:18] <Bytram> yay
[00:09:09] <Bytram> other than the waiting, the new box working out ok?
[00:09:01] <AzumaHazuki> this does at least stop it from swapping/otherwise thrashing my disk, and i can devote a 24GiB ramdisk to /var/tmp/portage :)
[00:08:23] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[00:08:20] <Bytram> RAM != computes
[00:08:01] <AzumaHazuki> some things just...take forever no matter how much RAM you have. llvm, clang, gcc...
[00:07:58] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[00:07:57] <guy_> #submit https://www.nationalgeographic.com
[00:07:46] <AzumaHazuki> gentoo. putting my new 32GiB kit through its paces
[00:07:30] <Bytram> no comprende?
[00:07:05] <AzumaHazuki> i see emerge -e world is still running
[00:06:59] <AzumaHazuki> mweh, long and kinda boring but not bad
[00:06:48] <guy_> that's odd
[00:06:46] <Bytram> welcome home... how was your day?
[00:06:29] <AzumaHazuki> o/
[00:06:27] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Access Denied" (1 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[00:06:24] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: o/
[00:06:06] <systemd> Submitting "Access Denied"...
[00:06:04] <guy_> =submit https://www.nationalgeographic.com
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[00:01:22] <Bytram> where's the beef?
[00:00:53] <systemd> ^ 03COVID-19 wallops meat plant workers; shortages hit shelves, fast food ( https://arstechnica.com )
[00:00:52] <Bytram> https://arstechnica.com
[00:00:35] <chromas> They found Jared's stash?