#soylent | Logs for 2020-05-06

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[00:44:22] <guy_> =submit https://www.nytimes.com
[00:44:24] <systemd> Submitting "Children Are Falling Ill With a Baffling Ailment Related to Covid-19"...
[00:44:45] <guy_> this pandemic may be more serious than just killing off old people
[00:44:46] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Children are Falling Ill With a Baffling Ailment Related to Covid-19" (52 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[00:46:09] <AzumaHazuki> thanks for an actually relevant, non-flamebaity sub, Runaway. You need better nicks though
[00:48:03] <kyonko> kawasaki disease they say
[00:49:29] <AzumaHazuki> similar to it, they said
[00:49:55] <AzumaHazuki> also, given how many adult covid patients are presenting with blood vessel inflammation, massively elevated D-dimer values, and actual clots, this doesn't entirely surprise me
[00:55:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - OK, So You've Air-Gapped that PC. Now, about the Data-Leaking Power Supply Unit... - https://sylnt.us - gotta-build-a-better-box
[00:56:37] <chromas> My PeeSU is leaking?
[01:02:16] <AzumaHazuki> fun fact: this is a form of "van Eck phreaking," and I am endlessly amused to have that as my family name despite not being related to the researcher who pioneered the idea
[01:04:08] <kyonko> its reverse ebola
[01:05:18] <guy_> =submit https://www.independent.co.uk
[01:05:22] <systemd> Submitting "Why the Navajo Nation has one of the highest coronavirus death rates in America"...( 1 modified urls; https://www.independent.co.uk )
[01:05:44] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Why the Navajo Nation Has One of the Highest Coronavirus Death Rates in America" (42 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:05:52] <guy_> it never ceases to amaze that local and national news shows up in international news sources
[01:06:11] <guy_> no one here in the US seems to care a whole lot about stuff like this
[01:08:31] <kyonko> navajo nation had hantavirus an bubonic plague in the 1990's
[01:08:42] <kyonko> hantavirus is a hemorragic fever
[01:09:06] <kyonko> new mexico is under road blocks now
[01:09:16] <kyonko> because uh... the vector and causitive agent never left
[01:09:18] <kyonko> rodents
[01:10:16] <guy_> =submit https://www.sciencenews.org
[01:10:17] <systemd> Submitting "Otters 'juggle' rocks and we don't know why"...
[01:10:39] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Otters 'Juggle' Rocks and We Don't Know Why" (22 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[01:12:42] <kyonko> lol juggle
[01:13:19] <guy_> =submit https://www.cnet.com
[01:13:20] <systemd> Submitting "Murder hornet munchies: The horrifying insect makes a tasty treat"...
[01:13:35] <guy_> let's eat the murderous little bastards!!
[01:13:42] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Murder Hornet Munchies: the Horrifying Insect Makes a Tasty Treat" (11 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[01:17:58] <guy_> Boru is a ghost!!
[03:05:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Underestimation of Crop Irrigatation Increases Risks of Water Shortages - https://sylnt.us - waste-not-want-not
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[03:15:32] <pinchy> ahh yea the channel that I insta-TLDR when tabbing to
[03:15:59] <pinchy> scroll up a few "look at all dat purdy text"
[05:17:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA Will Pay a Staggering $146 Million for Each SLS Rocket Engine - https://sylnt.us
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[06:31:01] <chromas> Logged into yahoo mail for the first time in awhile. It's got a bunch of people I didn't add in the address book
[06:31:15] <chromas> Looks like the addies of people from facebutt. Life hack!
[06:33:41] * chromas exports a csv
[06:37:54] <chromas> ooh, yahoo allows up to 500 simultaneous aliases
[06:40:13] <inz> I somehow managed to read that as aliens
[06:43:03] <chromas> 500 aliens would probably would be more useful.
[06:45:10] <inz> At least if they increase speed, drop down and reverse direction
[06:48:46] <chromas> https://cloudron.io
[06:48:46] <systemd> ^ 03Cloudron - The best platform for running web apps
[06:48:54] <chromas> Software-as-a-service...as-a-service
[07:17:21] <boru> guy; heh, it's an autoghost script.
[07:26:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Number of VR Headset Users on Steam Jumps with the Release of Half-Life: Alyx - https://sylnt.us - bunch-of-smart-Alyx
[07:31:29] <janrinok> boru - 'guy_' is just a change of nickname for one of our community. He has at least one other alternative too.
[07:31:53] <boru> Hmm?
[07:31:55] <chromas> Sssh, you're letting out all the secrets
[07:32:14] <boru> I was just explaing to them why I ghosted automatically on /join
[07:32:20] <janrinok> he admitted it on here either yesterday or the day before - it is hardly a secret
[07:32:48] <chromas> :D
[07:33:19] <janrinok> boru, k
[07:34:23] <boru> I am not sure why you were telling me that they have alt nicks.
[07:35:45] <janrinok> I misunderstood what you were saying
[08:03:14] <boru> Ah, right. I am not awake yet.
[08:18:17] <FatPhil> guy's just Rubadub69, isn't he?
[08:18:50] <boru> It's Runaway1956_ according to /clones
[08:18:57] <FatPhil> which I am hereby copyrighting, trademarking, and patenting
[08:20:11] <boru> I know of another guy_ on another net who is a reverse engineer whom we all believe works for mossad.
[08:20:40] <boru> Well, supposed reverse engineer. It's a reverse engineering channel, so one would assume they have _some_ interest.
[09:37:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Elon and Grimes: Congratulations on Your New Baby Boy! (Can we Call Him a Muskmellon?) - https://sylnt.us - happy-birthday
[09:42:46] <FatPhil> a million babbies are splorted out into the world every week, how's that news?
[09:48:34] <boru> Indeed. Celebrity news is for tabloids.
[09:58:50] <AndyTheAbsurd> A) The more I see of/about him, the more I realize the Elon Musk is 90% luck, 9% showmanship, and 1% luck.
[09:59:41] <boru> You forgot hubris, or perhaps you mispelled the 90%.
[09:59:50] <AndyTheAbsurd> B) despite the association with supermarket checkout "weird fake news" papers, "tabloid" is just a shape of newspaper that's different from "broadsheet".
[10:02:02] <AndyTheAbsurd> (Before coronavirus, the organization that I work for was publishing a tabloid - it was free, and it had been a daily paper that had shortened versions of the same stories as the broadsheet, then went to once a week with the newsprint tarrifs, and finally went electronic-only with the economic troubles associated with the pandemic.)
[10:02:31] <AndyTheAbsurd> boru: ...yes, I didn't mean to put "luck" in there twice.
[10:02:37] <AndyTheAbsurd> I blame insufficient coffee.
[10:04:44] <boru> ssh root@andy.absurd.lan 'kldload coffee.ko'
[10:05:58] <FatPhil> it was funnier with two lucks
[10:06:11] <boru> I only read it once, myself.
[10:06:18] <AndyTheAbsurd> I'm going to have to revise it, then.
[10:27:46] <FatPhil> any git gurus here?
[10:30:03] <boru> Not sure if I would consider myself a guru of anything, but go for it.
[10:33:28] <FatPhil> in a very simple linear history, I'd just like to run a command on every version of a single file in order.
[10:34:35] <FatPhil> I can kinda get every blob id for that file with a git rev-list --objects, but I lose information about what commit each version is associated with.
[10:35:48] <boru> When you say 'version', what do you mean?
[10:36:06] <boru> Also, for this stuff, use the scripting interface, not the human interface to git.
[10:49:23] <FatPhil> I have data in a text table, updated and committed every day. I'd now like to revisit the history and create a time sequence for each of the rows in the text table.
[10:49:56] <FatPhil> most of the scripting I've done in the past has been via the human interface, I'm not at all well versed with the low level commands.
[10:50:27] <boru> So, why not just parse the ouput of `git log somefile`?
[10:50:40] <boru> If you want to use the human interface, I mean.
[10:51:05] <boru> If the table is a single file, that ought to give you all the date you need, no?
[10:51:11] <boru> Data, even.
[10:51:18] <FatPhil> git log doesn't show the contents of the file
[10:53:42] <FatPhil> I can do a git show on the relevant line from a git ls-tree for every commit listed in a git log - but that sounds horribly clunky
[10:54:02] <boru> Hmm, what about using `git show`?
[10:55:40] <FatPhil> you have to show the blob, and the only way I know to get the blob id is git ls-tree
[10:59:02] <boru> I still think `git log` is what you want e.g. `git log -p somefile`
[10:59:09] <boru> You'll get the diff with that.
[10:59:33] <FatPhil> patches/diffs are horrid to parse. they also don't list lines that don't change.
[10:59:50] <FatPhil> keys still have values on days when their value hasn't changed.
[11:00:15] <boru> Okay, I am not sure what you are after then.
[11:01:19] <FatPhil> commits are a time sequence of a file containing key/value pairs. I'm after a sequence of time/value pairs for each key.
[11:01:51] <boru> Okay, so why do you need the lines that have not changed each day?
[11:02:03] <FatPhil> because keys still have values on days when their value hasn't changed.
[11:02:42] <boru> Okay, so why not parse/load the table from the file, and just parse/apply the patches from each commit like a state machine?
[11:04:29] <boru> IMHO, you're only really concerned with the line change metadata in the patch, anyway i.e. `@@ stuff @@`
[11:05:25] <FatPhil> the new values are in the '+' lines of patches
[11:06:23] <boru> Sure, if there's only this table in the file.
[11:06:45] <boru> Otherwise you'd need to parse for changes in the line range as I said above.
[11:15:43] <FatPhil> git rebase -i --exec lets me just process each version in turn, which is a little invasive - I can't do anything in the repo whilst it's running.
[11:16:08] <FatPhil> the more hands-off approach is this, which as I say I find just horrible: git log --oneline pl.txt| cut -f1 -d' ' | while read x; do b=`git ls-tree $x | grep pl.txt | cut -f3 -d' ' | cut -f1`; echo "commit=$x blob=$b"; done
[11:17:24] <FatPhil> hmmm, the index lines in git log -p contain the blob's prefix, so I can probably do it without git ls-tree
[11:22:54] <FatPhil> this gives the same ids: git log -p pl.txt | sed -ne '/^commit /p' -e '/^index/s/index.*\.\.$[^ ]*$.*/\1/p'
[11:23:16] <FatPhil> but there ought to be a simpler way
[11:25:58] <boru> I'd probably just do this with perl; read original file, then use a regex to capture the date and the lines changed/added for a given log entry.
[11:28:35] <boru> The format is pleasantly parseable, imho.
[11:47:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - AI-Supported Test For Very Early Signs Of Glaucoma Progression - https://sylnt.us - better-prediction-leads-to-better-outcomes
[12:04:25] <inz> FatPhil, no guru, the best I have is git log --pretty=%H pl.txt | while read h; do git show $h:pl.txt; done
[12:26:50] <Bytram> whereto? https://arstechnica.com
[12:26:52] <systemd> ^ 03SpaceX has fired Starship’s Raptor engine, and the vehicle still stands ( https://arstechnica.com )
[12:27:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - AI-Supported Test for Very Early Signs of Glaucoma Progression - https://sylnt.us - better-prediction-leads-to-better-outcomes
[12:31:18] <FatPhil> inz: oooh, that hash:filename syntax was what I was missing - that really simplifies things - thanks!
[12:34:53] <inz> FatPhil, pole tänu väärt
[12:37:17] <FatPhil> And may your sausage be well spiced too.
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[13:56:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Fossil Fuel-Free Jet Propulsion with Air Plasmas - https://sylnt.us - spreading-plasmas-everywhere-should-prove-exciting-in-a-thunderstorn
[14:58:25] <guy_> somebody called from somewhere, and wants you to call him back
[15:45:46] <FatPhil> Oi! Back! Where are you?
[15:50:19] <bacterium> wait... so should we call him from somewhere, or back?
[15:50:30] <bacterium> hi, i am dad
[15:56:09] <FatPhil> woop woop - beer delivery arrived. gonna have some hungarian horrors in the sauna tonight...
[16:07:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ancient River Systems on Mars Seen in Unparalleled Detail - https://sylnt.us - Percival-Lowell-was-right
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[17:30:37] <TurkeyWaddle> =submit https://arstechnica.com
[17:30:39] <systemd> Submitting "Beyond emulation: The massive effort to reverse-engineer N64 source code"...
[17:31:02] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Beyond Emulation: the Massive Effort to Reverse-engineer N64 Source Code" (23 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[17:31:12] <TurkeyWaddle> =submit https://arstechnica.com
[17:31:13] <systemd> Submitting "Uber lays off 3,700 people as its ride business craters"...
[17:31:35] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Uber Lays Off 3,700 People as its Ride Business Craters" (6 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[17:35:30] <TurkeyWaddle> =submit https://arstechnica.com
[17:35:31] <systemd> Submitting "Caddy offers TLS, HTTPS, and more in one dependency-free Go Web server"...
[17:35:53] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Caddy Offers TLS, HTTPS, and More in One Dependency-free Go Web Server" (55 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[17:41:49] <TurkeyWaddle> =submit https://arstechnica.com
[17:41:51] <systemd> Submitting "Hacker buys old Tesla parts on eBay, finds them full of user data"...
[17:42:13] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Hacker Buys Old Tesla Parts on eBay, Finds Them Full of User Data" (8 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[17:43:49] <TurkeyWaddle> =submit https://arstechnica.com
[17:43:50] <systemd> Submitting "FDA: Makers of coronavirus antibody tests must now show tests actually work"...
[17:44:12] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03FDA: Makers of Coronavirus Antibody Tests Must Now Show Tests Actually Work" (11 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[17:46:20] <TurkeyWaddle> =submit https://www.engadget.com
[17:46:22] <systemd> Submitting "Alphabet’s Loon and AT&T will tackle global crises with internet balloons"...
[17:46:44] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Alphabet’s Loon and AT&T Will Tackle Global Crises With Internet Balloons" (5 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[18:17:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - California Sues Uber and Lyft, Alleging Drivers are Misclassified - https://sylnt.us - misclassification
[20:09:41] <FatPhil> everyone's quiet tonight - lockdowns over? all out partying?
[20:11:00] <kyonko> nah
[20:11:02] <kyonko> just slow on irc
[20:11:12] <kyonko> i plan on connecting to ircnet and talking to finns about the midnight sun
[20:11:21] <kyonko> met some people from oulu
[20:11:52] <kyonko> the sun is on its way north
[20:12:20] <kyonko> lol, emitter of electromagnetism
[20:12:55] <kyonko> ok, i'm too lazy to connect to ircnet
[20:13:07] <kyonko> i have problems connecting to efnet and ircnet for some reason
[20:13:22] <kyonko> micro ircnetwork soylent news is always a sure connection
[20:14:38] <FatPhil> Oulu's a lovely town. I've visited several times for work.
[20:14:49] <FatPhil> I think that's where IRC was invented.
[20:15:28] <kyonko> yeah and they are all on ircnet
[20:15:34] <kyonko> along with a lot of japanese in japan itself
[20:16:02] <kyonko> they only understood one word which I said and they echoed: GAY
[20:17:00] <kyonko> the heat here makes you feel sea sic
[20:17:07] <kyonko> it goes much higher
[20:17:08] <FatPhil> remember to spell it "gei" for the fonetik fins
[20:17:32] <kyonko> heat is like the nordic snow
[20:18:01] <kyonko> when it snows here i touched it bare handed, feels like fire
[20:18:47] <kyonko> within these physical limits, humans have invented mythology and spiritual beliefs
[20:19:53] <kyonko> cold water and hot water feel alike
[20:20:01] <kyonko> ugly sister and pretty sister feel alike
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[20:25:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tails Linux 4.6 Released - https://sylnt.us - PSA
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[20:40:23] <drussell> So, what are we spending on hosting per year?
[20:40:27] drussell is now known as SoyGuest6075
[20:40:32] <SoyGuest6075> I now have an unloaded OC-48
[20:40:46] <kyonko> dark?
[20:40:56] <kyonko> what do they use for OC-48 these days? is it still ATM?
[20:41:28] <SoyGuest6075> I'm rsyncing the FreeBSD-Archive to a new ftp server as we speak
[20:41:38] <SoyGuest6075> backend is still all ATM
[20:41:43] <kyonko> FreeBSD is now plug and play
[20:42:19] <SoyGuest6075> This is a Nokia setup that allows vDSL, optical uplinks for mobile towers and fibre to home / school / business etc
[20:42:42] <kyonko> Nokia? made in finland?
[20:43:00] <kyonko> in the early 2000's I had the rubber boot company wireless phones for gsm
[20:44:10] <SoyGuest6075> Yeah but I have trouble finding all the old archives, like try to find me a freebsd archive that actually has packages for the ols 2.1.7.1 release or something
[20:44:34] <SoyGuest6075> I dunno, I've seen datasheets from both alcatel-lucent and nokia for the line cards and the OTUs
[20:44:54] <SoyGuest6075> crap I always forget to ident on the web interface
[20:45:05] <SoyGuest6075> I don't even know what my latest password is haha
[20:45:36] <SoyGuest6075> Where are you? are you reasonably well connected?
[20:46:02] <SoyGuest6075> Wanna grab a src.tgz or something for me to see what you get?
[20:47:12] <SoyGuest6075> The temporary ftp server is only (intentionally) on a 100 Mbps switch port on the ethernet side
[20:47:13] <kyonko> i'm on geostationary satellite during peak hours
[20:47:23] <kyonko> from 2AM to 6AM I get up to 5MBps
[20:47:29] <kyonko> megabits
[20:47:43] <SoyGuest6075> ftp.saturn-tech.com
[20:47:53] <kyonko> is this illegal?
[20:48:09] <SoyGuest6075> Is what illegal? :) lol
[20:49:23] <kyonko> this
[20:49:33] <kyonko> do I give you my wireless phone number?
[20:49:42] <kyonko> are you collecting my data?
[20:50:49] <chromas> Getting around 5.4MB/s
[20:50:56] <SoyGuest6075> No, but obviously I would know your IP address and I ask that anyone that logs in via anonymous FTP provides an e-mail address in the password field as is customary,
[20:51:10] <chromas> Peaked at 7.9
[20:51:16] <SoyGuest6075> I'm Rsyncing at 100 Mbps on that link right now, hang on
[20:51:19] <SoyGuest6075> I'll stop that
[20:52:02] <SoyGuest6075> was grabbing FreeBSD-Archive
[20:52:32] <SoyGuest6075> ok, the dedicated 100 Mbps to that machine is idle...
[20:53:07] <chromas> 9.7 peak
[20:53:15] <SoyGuest6075> Where are you?
[20:53:27] <chromas> oh I think our connection is only 60mb/s
[20:53:33] <chromas> Washington state
[20:53:42] <SoyGuest6075> mb or mB?
[20:53:55] <kyonko> oh so its not anonymous ftp lol
[20:53:56] <chromas> b
[20:54:16] <chromas> You don't have to put in a valid email; nobody does
[20:54:16] <SoyGuest6075> not anonymous?
[20:54:20] <kyonko> remember when you had to upload a website?
[20:54:37] <SoyGuest6075> no, of course you don't need a REAL e-mail... haha
[20:54:39] <kyonko> chromas: fake valid email
[20:54:50] <kyonko> irc requires email per protocol too
[20:54:55] <SoyGuest6075> most people just says firefox@example or chrome@example.com
[20:55:06] <kyonko> ftp is for pedos
[20:55:30] <chromas> It's pretty cool that we've got THE Elon Musk right here on SoylentNEws
[20:55:39] <kyonko> provie it
[20:55:58] <SoyGuest6075> ftp upload is on another port and server, and no X chmod on the dirs or downloads privs from the incoming dir, there pornguy... :) lol
[20:56:22] <kyonko> who remembers wuftpd
[20:56:27] <kyonko> and ws_ftp
[20:56:37] <SoyGuest6075> I don't know what to run on there now...
[20:56:46] <kyonko> there is a reason why irc doesn't run on its assigned protocol port
[20:57:08] <kyonko> no one really runs web servers on ports 80 and 443
[20:57:10] <SoyGuest6075> I want to make a Canadian FreeBSD mirror and I will host SoylentNews for free if everyone wants
[20:57:23] <kyonko> this is theo deraadt?
[20:58:06] <SoyGuest6075> or at least I can run some of the backup servers so we pay linode less
[20:58:20] <kyonko> is linode like facebook?
[21:02:22] <FatPhil> I do like the idea of trying to reduce linode costs
[21:02:36] <SoyGuest6075> I think we pay way too much
[21:02:51] <SoyGuest6075> This should be able to be run for very little, I've said that from the start
[21:03:03] <SoyGuest6075> Now I have the connectivity to put my money where my mouth is
[21:03:23] <SoyGuest6075> just waiting for the proper routing of things for my main servers to be properly multi-homed again
[21:04:32] <kyonko> what if you get slashdotted?
[21:04:49] <SoyGuest6075> I can put up what I expect would be most of the bandwidth necssary for SoylentNews pro bono
[21:05:07] <SoyGuest6075> I have backup people, there kyonko if we got soyled
[21:05:16] <kyonko> lol soyled
[21:05:18] <kyonko> zucked!
[21:05:26] <SoyGuest6075> Why, you think we'll need more than an OC-48?!
[21:05:52] <kyonko> you need a DS-0
[21:08:04] <SoyGuest6075> Anyway, I'm going to a friend's for a beer now... I will stay 6 feet away at all times then we can chat about this more in a bit
[21:08:13] <SoyGuest6075> :)
[21:08:16] <kyonko> ...
[21:08:20] <kyonko> long arms
[21:08:20] <SoyGuest6075> drussell out
[21:08:27] <chromas> Stay 6 beers away
[21:08:36] <kyonko> i'm so long armed i'm an ape
[21:08:45] <kyonko> i'm gonna get your face
[21:08:47] * kyonko chimps out
[21:08:56] <kyonko> CHIMP GOT YOUR FACE!
[21:08:58] <SoyGuest6075> I won't make it home to check on my fancy new network connection to the PVCs on my backbone ring... :)
[21:09:14] <kyonko> wow man, you must live somewhere weird
[21:09:27] <kyonko> dark fiber is akin to industrial power supply
[21:09:28] <SoyGuest6075> try to leave me some ftpd logs when I get back.... :)
[21:09:38] <kyonko> creep
[21:09:41] <SoyGuest6075> Grab src.tgz...
[21:09:53] <kyonko> # grab ./src.tgz
[21:09:57] <SoyGuest6075> or better yet, an INSTALLATION ISO
[21:10:02] <SoyGuest6075> :)
[21:10:05] <kyonko> # doihaveit
[21:16:53] <SoyGuest6075> Ah, crap, I don't have this set to do any kind of transfer rate logging, so can coy guys please report back in here whatever transfer rate you get on a paricular file?!
[21:16:55] <SoyGuest6075> Thanks!
[21:17:22] <SoyGuest6075> Oh, and where you are geographically (and what provider, would be nice)...
[21:20:37] <kyonko> anywhere in america
[21:20:44] <kyonko> except the poles
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[22:34:05] <guy_> front page story about spacex is borked somehow
[22:34:24] <guy_> nothing to see here,move along, no matter which ling you click to get into it
[22:35:00] <FatPhil> admins: is there a way to undo a moderation? I just did one in the wrong direction :(
[22:35:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, technically, yeah, but it's easier if you just point to it and i'll upmod it
[22:35:50] <FatPhil> I accidentally upmodded it!
[22:36:03] <guy_> spacex story now replaced with the florian story
[22:36:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, well lets go for -1 insightful then
[22:36:58] <FatPhil> https://soylentnews.org - I was aiming for "overrated", but my eyes or mouse are a bit fuzzy tonight.
[22:36:59] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | Underestimation of Crop Irrigatation Increases Risks of Water Shortages ( https://soylentnews.org )
[22:37:47] <FatPhil> I could post a followup to it to put my objection in words
[22:38:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> Overrated it is
[22:38:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> guy_, you talking about the NASA story?
[22:39:04] <guy_> Spacex has Fired Starship's Raptor Engine and the Vehicle Still Stands
[22:39:13] <guy_> it's back in the queue now
[22:39:34] * TheMightyBuzzard tips hat to FatPhil
[22:39:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> prolly his doing
[22:40:06] <guy_> I just never saw that happen before, lol
[22:40:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, time got set wrong
[22:40:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> was supposed to be at the top of the queue looks like not immediate
[22:40:47] <guy_> hmmmm
[22:41:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~blame
[22:41:11] * exec points at Bytram
[22:42:08] <Bytram> lol
[22:42:33] * TheMightyBuzzard is polishing off the last of a bottle of blended irish whisky because he's too lazy to go to the casa de booze
[22:43:02] * guy_ tries to satisfy two puppies with one nipple
[22:43:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, aluminum is up. can feel free to have a tour now. no services migrated, just functional.
[22:44:24] <Bytram> guy_: Yeah, last moment story rescheduling. Thought I got it in before it was scheduled to "go live". It'll come up for realz in a few hours.
[22:44:43] <Bytram> !grab guy_
[22:44:43] <Bender> Added quote 959
[22:45:01] <Bytram> !quote 959
[22:45:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> bender don't grab emotes
[22:45:01] <Bender> Quote 959 - <guy_> hmmmm
[22:45:16] <Bytram> yep.
[22:45:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> !grab emotes
[22:45:28] <Bender> I don't know what emotes said, so I can't quote them!
[22:45:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> see
[22:45:48] <Bytram> :: chuckles ::
[22:47:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> okey doke, smoke break then cartoons
[22:47:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Florian Schneider, Kraftwerk Co-Founder, Dies Aged 73 - https://sylnt.us - R.I.P.
[22:49:59] -!- SoyCow3521 [SoyCow3521!~b840ca25@l393433kt6s338641.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #soylent
[22:50:33] <SoyCow3521> so, here on the Shaw connection I get about 60 Mbps also... Is that a common DOCSIS speed?
[22:50:53] <SoyCow3521> My friend Marcus says hello, also...
[22:51:07] <SoyCow3521> He's supplying the test from this particular location
[22:51:33] <SoyCow3521> ftp> mget src.txz 200 Type set to I. mget src.txz? y 200 PORT command successful. 150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for 'src.txz' (166199208 bytes). 226 Transfer complete. ftp: 166199208 bytes received in 27.03Seconds 6147.78Kbytes/sec. ftp>
[22:51:46] <SoyCow3521> ffs
[22:51:57] <SoyCow3521> ftp> mget src.txz
[22:52:05] <SoyCow3521> ftp> mget src.txz
[22:52:23] <SoyCow3521> mget src.txz? y
[22:52:27] <guy_> Darwin award given here
[22:52:29] <SoyCow3521> 200 PORT command successful.
[22:52:34] <guy_> https://iknowallnews.com
[22:52:34] <systemd> ^ 03Woman killed by alligator in South Carolina was trying to pet it - I Know All News
[22:52:40] <SoyCow3521> 150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for 'src.txz' (166199208 bytes).
[22:52:51] <SoyCow3521> 226 Transfer complete.
[22:52:58] <SoyCow3521> ftp: 166199208 bytes received in 27.03Seconds 6147.78Kbytes/sec.
[22:53:09] <SoyCow3521> ftp>
[22:53:50] <SoyCow3521> Why has everything about the last 10 days been unnecessarily painful?!! lol hahaha
[22:55:15] <SoyCow3521> so that is 6147 kiloBYTES per second.... I'm pretty sure I'm MAXing out his connection...
[22:55:57] <SoyCow3521> Mwaaa haaaa haaa....
[22:57:19] <SoyCow3521> I've got 2488.32 Mbit/s at my disposal now....
[22:57:44] <SoyCow3521> Although there's like 85 Mbps overhead from ATM
[22:58:25] <SoyCow3521> yet still pertty respectable... I'm on my own dedicated port right now
[22:59:45] <SoyCow3521> Going to go back there and try to quickly max it out on a peak overnight and see if they're limiting anything any whichway or not...
[22:59:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> any port in a storm
[22:59:58] <SoyCow3521> I suspect not, I think it's just open
[23:00:10] <SoyCow3521> lol TMP
[23:00:12] <SoyCow3521> TMB
[23:00:39] <SoyCow3521> did you try to ftp yet?
[23:00:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> hmm? no. i tried some irish whisky though.
[23:01:03] <SoyCow3521> I'm not at a console that's logging.. haha
[23:01:19] <SoyCow3521> my friend is the same way
[23:01:26] <SoyCow3521> making me drink vodka
[23:01:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt pain despair and agony
[23:01:41] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- Gloom Despair And Agony On Me (marriage , money)
[23:01:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh ya
[23:02:10] <SoyCow3521> seriously, try grabbing any file from ftp.saturn-tech.com
[23:02:24] <SoyCow3521> I need to know what transfer rates we get from where
[23:02:38] <SoyCow3521> this is not our normal hurricane electric fibre
[23:03:03] <SoyCow3521> I'd love to know transfer rates and ping times....
[23:03:14] <chromas> ssh into it and hit up all the internet speed testing sites
[23:03:50] <SoyCow3521> That box is in currently in my living room on the end of a cat6, long story
[23:04:12] <SoyCow3521> I have phsical access to the box :)
[23:04:37] <chromas> ah, then s/^.*?and //
[23:04:47] <SoyCow3521> indeed
[23:04:48] <SoyCow3521> :)
[23:05:15] <SoyCow3521> You still get only < 10 Mbps?
[23:05:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> 166199208 bytes received in 25.19 secs (6442.4 kB/s)
[23:05:43] <SoyCow3521> or is that an Mbps MBps thing?
[23:06:12] <SoyCow3521> TMB, what is your supposed connection rate?
[23:06:13] <chromas> yeah it was B. Strong capitalism
[23:06:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's 64Mbps/6.4MBps
[23:06:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> 1Gb
[23:06:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> highly reliable at that rate too
[23:07:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> unfortunately my cable's crap and won't go much over 100Mb
[23:07:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> as in cat5 not rj45
[23:07:47] <chromas> need some fiber-to-the-puter
[23:08:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i shoved half a box of shredded wheat in it last week
[23:08:53] <chromas> Give it some olestra to get it going again
[23:09:15] <SoyCow3521> Where are you located? getting 64 Mbps actual througput to some remote location when I only have it pluged into a 100 Mbpsethernet port is actually rather impressive
[23:09:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> SoyCow3521, ...
[23:09:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather
[23:09:44] <MrPlow> 1576 East Main St, Humboldt, TN 38343, USA - Today: "Partly cloudy throughout the day." 61/42F, Humidity: 67%, Precip: 9%, Wind ~9mph. Thu: "Possible light rain overnight." 69/52F, Humidity: 62%, Precip: 23%, Wind ~5mph. Fri: "Rain in the morning and afternoon." 62/36F, Humidity: 75%, Precip: 96%, Wind ~13mph.
[23:11:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> 80Mbps is about what i top out at though cause cat5 instead of cat5e or cat6
[23:12:08] <SoyCow3521> I'm playing with various combinations of hardware here...
[23:12:18] <SoyCow3521> I always just used fxp cards
[23:12:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> can't be arsed to climb in the attic and rerun it when we'll be in the church soon
[23:13:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.youtube.com
[23:13:02] <systemd> ^ 03Hee Haw Where Are You Tonight
[23:13:20] <SoyCow3521> but now a bunch of my essentially backbone machines don't even do full backbone rate.... <facepalm>
[23:13:52] <SoyCow3521> Didn't expect this instantaneous increase in bandwidth... hahahaha
[23:14:17] <chromas> AT&T's speed tester showed I got a burst over 200mb/s, but I'm pretty sure this router only does 100
[23:14:35] <SoyCow3521> Oh, gee... we can bring an OC-48 to your server room, no problem...
[23:14:38] <SoyCow3521> SIGN ME UP!
[23:14:43] <SoyCow3521> :)
[23:14:47] <chromas> Just one? :(
[23:14:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> shurg. speedtest.net showed me getting 43Mbps when i just got over sixty from the cow
[23:15:23] <chromas> mooo
[23:15:56] <SoyCow3521> are you on testing to my 203.x.x.x or 206.x.x.x ?
[23:16:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> beats the hell outa me. i'm drinking not network troubleshooting
[23:16:32] <SoyCow3521> haha meeeeeee too
[23:16:34] <SoyCow3521> :)
[23:17:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, ima fuck off n grab me a smoke then go back to my cartoons
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[23:43:58] <guy_> =submit https://www.rt.com
[23:44:01] <systemd> Submitting "A red-baiter, an anti-Trumper & a libertarian walk into a bar: Facebook angers conservatives & liberals alike with oversight picks"...
[23:44:14] <chromas> from the deleted dept.
[23:44:22] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08a Red-baiter, an anti-Trumper & a Libertarian Walk Into a Bar: Facebook Angers Conservatives & Liber" (20 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:46:44] <guy_> =submit https://gizmodo.com
[23:46:45] <systemd> Submitting "Facebook Announces Members of Its Oversight Board, Says Its Decisions Will be 'Binding'"...
[23:47:07] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Facebook Announces Members of its Oversight Board, Says its Decisions Will be 'Binding'" (1 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:49:23] <guy_> =submit https://www.zerohedge.com
[23:49:24] <systemd> Submitting "IRS Orders The Dead To Return Stimulus Money"...
[23:49:46] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03IRS Orders the Dead to Return Stimulus Money" (8 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:54:07] <guy_> =submit https://www.9news.com.au
[23:54:09] <systemd> Submitting "New Banksy artwork appears in English hospital's emergency department"...( 1 modified urls; https://www.9news.com.au )
[23:54:31] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03New Banksy Artwork Appears in English Hospital's Emergency Department" (1 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:59:28] <guy_> =submit https://www.rt.com
[23:59:31] <systemd> Submitting "Too little, too late? Shock as NY subway cleaned overnight for FIRST time in 115 years amid Covid-19 crisis"...
[23:59:53] <systemd> ✓* Sub-ccess! "08Too Little, Too Late? Shock as NY Subway Cleaned Overnight for FIRST Time in 115 Years Amid Covid-19" (15 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org