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[01:18:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Deepfakes' Biggest Threat To The 2020 Us Election Isn't What You'd Think - https://sylnt.us - fake-it-'til-you-break-it
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[01:31:40] <Deucalion> Copying one external drive's contents to another external drive... that sinking feeling that cp -ar may not have been the right choice.... the cp is still going yet the destination contents have exceeded the size of the source drive.... methinks some hard or symlinks are messing with me in some recurcive
[01:32:06] <Deucalion> recursive fashion* ~le sigh~
[01:59:37] <GrandFireWizard> dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=32M
[02:00:03] <AzumaHazuki> that is a very bad idea unless the drives are exactly the same capacity
[02:00:17] <AzumaHazuki> try rsync maybe?
[02:00:24] <chromas> You can resize the filesystem after
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[02:05:32] <carny> Deucalion: rsync with the right options will fix that
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[03:17:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Why are We All Forgetting What Day It Is? - https://sylnt.us - does-anybody-really-know-what-time-it-is?-♪♩♪
[03:18:54] <Deucalion> carny, AzumaHazuki - I should have used rsync. It's still going. ~2TB copied from a 500GB drive thus far. There has to be some linked recursion in there. I'll just let it expire eventually due to drive full then go poking about. Every cloud has a silver lining... it is exercising my destination drive by filling it. YAY :D
[03:19:16] <AzumaHazuki> that's just wear and tear though
[03:20:30] <chromas> is it reading /dev/zero or something?
[03:22:10] <Deucalion> Meh - if writing the entirety of a drive once causes an issue I want to know about it now not later when I have backed up things to it. I have 20 yr old HDDs that still spin up fine. If an HDD shits the bed on one pass that is not wear and tear, it is not fit for purpose.
[03:25:37] <Deucalion> chromas, that is a very good question, I am copying a very old backup drive to another new one. I do not recall what is on the source as it is just ancient cruft. There may well be something in a subfolder that symlinks /dev/urandom or somesuch and I am just backing up noise :D So be it.
[03:33:42] <chromas> You can cancel and do an rsync. It should skip over the stuff that's already there
[03:36:37] <chromas> throw a nice --progress on it to spam your terminal with all the filenames
[03:55:02] * SoyCow-69 throws a nice exception
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[05:26:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Possible New Method for Nuclear Power Waste to be Made Safer - https://sylnt.us - Not-in-my-back-yard
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[06:51:55] <chromas> Well this is exciting. I can use emojis in my email addresses :D
[06:52:10] * chromas sends a mail addressed to 💩
[06:59:23] <FatPhil> But can you send an email to an ill-formed utf8 octet sequence?
[06:59:32] <FatPhil> https://medium.com
[06:59:35] <systemd> ^ 03Lab-Made? SARS-CoV-2 Genealogy Through the Lens of Gain-of-Function Research
[07:05:51] <FatPhil> I can't hear "CoViD-19" without visualising some wild-eyed godloon puff the wind of god my way now.
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[07:35:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Oil Wells Done Rube-Goldberg Style: Flatrods and Jerk Lines - https://sylnt.us
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[08:01:31] <janrinok> =gday FatPhil
[08:01:32] * systemd tediously coalesces a petabyte of poutine-- with FatPhil
[08:01:37] <janrinok> =gday chromas
[08:01:38] * systemd basically copies a fartbox of pencil shavings for chromas
[08:02:03] <chromas> =g'day janrinok
[08:02:03] * systemd diarrhetically reverse-engineers a drawing of general protection faults from janrinok
[08:05:30] <FatPhil> =gday janrinok
[08:05:30] * systemd irresponsibly prepares a hatful of tongue awareness month for janrinok
[08:06:29] <janrinok> I am already aware of my tongue - unfortunately, I have recently accidentally bitten it a couple of times.
[08:08:30] <FatPhil> clearly not aware enough!
[08:10:35] <janrinok> fair point
[09:09:44] <FatPhil> I hope everyone's got a case of Corona for Cinco de Mayo!
[09:11:35] <janrinok> can't buy it around here - I will have to make do with some real ale from the UK
[09:18:48] <inz> No corona here, but I've plenty of mayonnaise
[09:47:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Fish Use Sharp Barbs And Spines To Fight Off Hungry Seals - https://sylnt.us - get-the-point
[10:28:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:28:46] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5201
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[11:42:43] <FatPhil> https://www.bbc.co.uk
[11:42:46] <systemd> ^ 03France's first coronavirus case 'was in December'
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[11:57:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Billy Mitchell Takes His Donkey Kong High-Score Cheating Case To Court - https://sylnt.us - it's-on-like-Donkey-Kong
[12:22:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> may the fifth be in you
[12:35:00] <FatPhil> may the fifth of whiskey be to your liking
[12:43:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> 133/281
[12:44:12] * TheMightyBuzzard is updating dev, aka the gentoo build box
[12:46:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Catalyst Opens Door to More Efficient, Environmentally Friendly Ethylene Production - https://sylnt.us - friendlt-catalysts || Deepfakes' Biggest Threat to the 2020 US Election Isn't What You'd Think - https://sylnt.us - fake-it-'til-you-break-it || Fish Use Sharp Barbs and Spines to Fight Off Hungry Seals - https://sylnt.us - get-the-point - 1 more
[12:53:52] * boru raises a glass to FatPhil.
[13:08:17] <FatPhil> top of the it's-morning-somewhere to you
[13:29:45] <Ingar> Gentoo.. when Klingon Painsticks just don't cut it
[13:30:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> naw, easy peasy no systemdsy
[13:30:38] <Ingar> Klingon Painsticks _are_ easy, doesnt mean I'd want to use them :p
[13:31:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> true
[13:31:16] <Ingar> (sry may grudge against gentoo is far larger then my objections against debian ;)
[13:31:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> having one box that builds binary packages for ALL the boxes on a network makes it fairly painless though
[13:31:52] <boru> Pft, Linux. Let me throw my oar in and scoff from an ivory tower.
[13:32:20] <Ingar> do I sense a BSD user?
[13:32:26] * TheMightyBuzzard reports boru to the elephant poaching authorities
[13:32:33] <boru> How did you guess?
[13:32:52] <boru> Those elephants were all dead when I got here.
[13:33:18] <boru> They appear to have run into large pieces of undetermined metal at high velocity.
[13:33:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> common thing among elephants, i hear
[13:33:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> 165/281
[13:34:09] <boru> I have also been lead (har har) to believe that is the case.
[13:34:16] * TheMightyBuzzard really should update the gentoo boxes monthly
[13:43:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, fun. gcc's one of the packages that needs updated. that shouldn't take long at all.
[13:44:00] <boru> Could be worse, could be llvm.
[13:45:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> true
[13:45:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> or webkit-gtk
[13:45:42] <boru> Ugh, yeah.
[13:47:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> doing all this today so i can have an up to date set of binary packages for a beryllium (the box that runs all our external services except the website) replacement
[13:48:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's our one and only centos box. version 0.1 or some such ancientness.
[13:50:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> that itself wouldn't bother me overly much but it's become an annoyance since it's never going to get the libs necessary if we want to be able to update things like the irc or mail daemons.
[13:59:27] <nutherguy> If I submit a feel-good piece, y'all won't accuse me of being gay, will you?
[13:59:40] <nutherguy> =submit https://www.telegraph.co.uk
[13:59:41] <systemd> Submitting "Irish dig deep to support virus-hit native Americans, repaying 150-year-old debt"...
[14:00:03] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Irish Dig Deep to Support Virus-hit Native Americans, Repaying 150-year-old Debt" (1 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:00:52] <nutherguy> Chromas around?
[14:01:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake chromas
[14:01:46] * MrPlow smakes chromas upside the head with a TSR
[14:02:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> nutherguy, support with free firewater?
[14:02:33] * TheMightyBuzzard perks up
[14:02:52] <boru> Pft.
[14:03:33] <nutherguy> I suppose firewater can be bartered, LOL
[14:05:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> bah, i ain't choctaw or navajo
[14:07:01] <boru> I wasn't actually aware that the Native Americans sent us aid during the last famine. I learned something new today.
[14:07:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> i've helped the irish plenty through good ole capitalism though. there's some mighty fine firewater comes from there. and jameson too.
[14:07:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Malaria 'Completely Stopped' by Microbe - https://sylnt.us - other-pandemic
[14:07:50] <boru> Things must be rough out there if Jameson is considered might fine. I'll sponsor an aid package to you immediately.
[14:08:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> i did note it separately from the fine firewater.
[14:08:36] <boru> Technically correct.
[14:09:03] <boru> Nonetheless, I'll happily increase my SN sub to fund you with something decent to drink.
[14:09:10] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[14:09:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> if i were gonna drink blended, i'd go with slane or some such. way better than jameson if you absolutely must drink blended.
[14:10:26] <boru> For a cheap blend, you're probably a small step better with a bottle of Bushmills (Black Bush, for example).
[14:10:47] <boru> For generally cheap swill or cleaning your toilet, I'd recommend Scotch.
[14:11:22] <boru> But really, I'll have to supply you with a decent single pot still. Redbreast 12 is my conversion whiskey.
[14:14:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> had a bottle of single malt that i really dug but it disappeared somehow and i can't remember the name
[14:15:06] <boru> Indeed, they tend to evaporate very quickly. It's the low boiling point of ethanol, you see.
[14:15:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> makes sense
[14:16:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++ #smoke break
[14:16:25] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 769
[14:28:02] * nutherguy wonders if there is anything good to eat in the house
[14:31:41] <Ingar> steak of the house, I recommend the kitchen door
[14:34:08] * nutherguy found some kind of casserole with chunks of white meat in it
[14:34:33] <nutherguy> chicken alfredo
[14:35:14] <nutherguy> not my first choice, but it beats being hungry I guess
[14:38:03] <FatPhil> local texmex *didn't* have taco tuesday for cinco de mayo, which disappointed me a bit.
[14:38:45] <chromas> Cinco de cuadro is the real holiday
[14:39:40] <FatPhil> turned down a delicious georgian chicken preparation at the local brewpub, but that has it every week in rotation, so not a disaster if I miss it once.
[14:40:14] <FatPhil> your number's up, chromas
[14:40:32] * chromas decrements
[14:41:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> up's not a number, it's a color
[14:43:01] * chromas hues
[14:52:27] <nutherguy> There's Chromas!!
[14:52:55] <nutherguy> Somebody told me you have a boyfreind that looks like a girfreind - izzat true?
[14:54:43] <nutherguy> ups is a shade of brown, amirite?
[14:59:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> 170/281
[15:12:07] * FatPhil has a girthfriend
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[15:26:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> 244/281
[16:01:28] <chromas> Would it be faster to build the packages at home?
[16:02:06] * chromas plunders sn funds for a threadripper
[16:14:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, it would. they're built now mostly though.
[16:17:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hertz Seeking to Avoid Bankruptcy After Missing Lease Payment, Report Says - https://sylnt.us - well-that-sure-hertz
[16:17:32] <FatPhil> you can distcc on my RasPi!
[16:18:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> that'd mean i have to be working instead of watching cartoons
[16:20:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean, i wish i had a rpi for building at home but i'll suffer through.
[16:43:21] <chromas> If you install QNX does it become a Blackberry Pi?
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[17:36:35] <FatPhil> Just watched BBC's /Ian Hislop's Fake News - A True History/, which was a fun watch - had some bits of history that I wasn't aware of. Even recent stuff. Didn't know about the pizzagate gunman, for example.
[17:40:37] <chromas> Yep. Some rando takes a gun into a shop and suddenly everyone things pizzagate's fake news
[17:51:35] <FatPhil> there were even fake jews to keep EF happy.
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[18:25:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Frontier, Amid Bankruptcy, is Suspected of Lying About Broadband Expansion - https://sylnt.us - run-a-speedtest-and-call-your-congressman
[19:57:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://beta.soylentnews.org
[20:34:33] <chromas> Doesn't work
[20:34:53] <chromas> oh I needed moar js
[20:35:19] <chromas> look at that. open source video conferencing poll and no xmpp
[20:35:33] <chromas> xmpp kinda sucks tho
[20:35:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Woman Who Sold Access to Pirated Books on Dropbox Handed Suspended Sentence - https://sylnt.us - book-her-Danno
[20:36:56] <FatPhil> book-her-Danno?
[20:37:02] <FatPhil> What kind of a website is this?
[20:37:05] <FatPhil> HTML 5.0?
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[22:44:05] <AndyTheAbsurd> =submit https://www.eurekalert.org Without information about how much electrical power is used, it's impossible to say if this could be a realistic replacement for fossil-fuel jets.
[22:44:07] <systemd> Submitting "Fossil fuel-free jet propulsion with air plasmas"...
[22:44:29] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Fossil Fuel-free Jet Propulsion With Air Plasmas" (63 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[22:45:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Virgin Galactic's Spaceship Flies from its New Home Base for the First Time - https://sylnt.us - timing-of-actual-passenger-service-is-up-in-the-air
[22:55:26] <Bytram> https://beta.soylentnews.org
[22:58:34] <FatPhil> beta? is this april 1st?
[22:59:10] <kyonko> richard branson got busted working for the cia
[23:04:56] <Bytram> FatPhil: close... about April 35th or so
[23:09:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, added that cname months ago when i was adding something else. forget what.
[23:10:13] * TheMightyBuzzard woke up from his nap with one bitch of a headache
[23:10:25] <kyonko> you got major depression TheMightyBuzzard
[23:10:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> not lately, no
[23:11:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> was a problem back shortly before we started up SN but since became a non-issue
[23:16:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> gonna go smoke cigarettes and read a book until the aspirin kick in
[23:16:57] <Bytram> #weather TheMightyBuzzard
[23:16:58] <MrPlow> 1576 East Main St, Humboldt, TN 38343, USA - Today: "Mostly cloudy throughout the day." 70/50F, Humidity: 80%, Precip: 35%, Wind ~9mph. Wed: "Partly cloudy throughout the day." 63/41F, Humidity: 64%, Precip: 6%, Wind ~9mph. Thu: "Clear throughout the day." 69/55F, Humidity: 62%, Precip: 9%, Wind ~5mph.
[23:19:29] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: peak pollen season. Feed bad for ya. Is starting here... won't be long until I'll be right there with ya. :/
[23:19:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> #weather
[23:19:43] <MrPlow> North Bay Trail, Saint Petersburg, FL 33701, USA - Today: "Clear throughout the day." 81/73F, Humidity: 73%, Precip: 4%, Wind ~5mph. Wed: "Partly cloudy throughout the day." 81/65F, Humidity: 76%, Precip: 11%, Wind ~11mph. Thu: "Clear throughout the day." 74/63F, Humidity: 52%, Precip: 1%, Wind ~13mph.
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[23:24:32] <FatPhil> So the cinco de mayo of whiskey is taking its toll, eh, Buzz
[23:27:57] <FatPhil> ugh! 28C? the horrors.
[23:28:03] <FatPhil> #weather
[23:28:04] <MrPlow> Pärnu mnt 67a, 10131 Tallinn, Estonia - Today: "Partly cloudy throughout the day." 54/38F, Humidity: 67%, Precip: 3%, Wind ~8mph. Thu: "Clear throughout the day." 50/37F, Humidity: 67%, Precip: 6%, Wind ~12mph. Fri: "Partly cloudy throughout the day." 53/40F, Humidity: 66%, Precip: 5%, Wind ~6mph.
[23:36:15] <carny> #weather
[23:36:15] <MrPlow> No location found for carny
[23:36:37] <carny> i am homeless
[23:37:25] <chromas> echo $HOME
[23:38:27] <carny> echo $HOME=/dev/null
[23:38:39] <carny> i mean export
[23:38:41] <carny> lazy cutting and pasting
[23:40:27] <chromas> Well I, for one, am disappointed that Raspbian is just a Debian distro
[23:40:37] <chromas> Maybe I'm looking for Lesberry Pi