#soylent | Logs for 2020-04-28
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[01:25:43] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Researchers Develop High-Performance Ceramic Fuel Cell that Operates on Butane Gas - https://sylnt.us - give-me-power
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[03:27:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NHS Rejects Apple-Google Coronavirus App Plan - https://sylnt.us - roll-your-own
[03:47:07] <chromas> https://i.imgur.com
[04:14:50] <AzumaHazuki> hey Runaway1956_, having a bad night? :)
[04:15:45] <AzumaHazuki> just remember, pretty much everything wrong in your life is your fault! <3
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[05:36:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Research Has Heralded a Promising Step for Wheat-Sensitivity Sufferers - https://sylnt.us - nom-nom-nom
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[07:45:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Unveil How General Anesthesia Works - https://sylnt.us - count-backward-from-10...9...8...
[08:12:21] <FatPhil> Woo woo! My local craft beer bar reopens today - the one that does the scrumpy on hand-pull.
[09:55:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Here's Why “Baking” Damaged Reel-to-Reel Tapes Renders Them Playable Again - https://sylnt.us - not-too-hot
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[11:56:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Amazon Reportedly Used Merchant Data, Despite Telling Congress It Doesn’t - https://sylnt.us - undercutting-the-competition's-throats
[12:04:01] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:04:01] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5190
[12:04:31] <Bytram> heh. I just happened to post comment #987789 =)
[12:04:39] <Bytram> palindrome++
[12:04:39] <Bender> karma - palindrome: 1
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[12:09:43] <AndyTheAbsurd> emordnilap++
[12:09:43] <Bender> karma - emordnilap: 1
[12:09:49] <AndyTheAbsurd> just for balance, you know.
[12:20:32] <Bytram> LOL!!!!!!!
[12:21:27] <Bytram> =g a man a plan a canal a banana
[12:21:28] <systemd> http://www.fun-with-words.com - Palindromes > Panama palindromes
[12:26:47] <Bytram> coffee++ biab
[12:26:47] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5191
[12:27:21] <AndyTheAbsurd> "a man, a plan, a canal: Panama" is the first thing I ever learned was a palindrome.
[12:27:33] <AndyTheAbsurd> But of course "racecar" and "taco cat" are shorter.
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[12:42:48] <FatPhil> nun
[12:43:24] <Bytram> Has been so long, not sure what "the *first* palindrome" was for me. Possibly "Madam, I'm Adam" (presumably uttered when when Adam first greeted Eve)
[12:43:31] <Bytram> A
[12:44:03] <Bytram> =)
[13:12:27] <FatPhil> As the mathematician in the room, I will offer the empty string as the shortest example.
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[13:18:36] <TurkeyWaddle> =submit https://www.zdnet.com
[13:18:40] <systemd> Submitting "Shade (Troldesh) ransomware shuts down and releases decryption keys"...
[13:19:01] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Shade (Troldesh) Ransomware Shuts Down and Releases Decryption Keys" (0 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[13:21:17] <TurkeyWaddle> =submit https://arstechnica.com
[13:21:19] <systemd> Submitting "Starship chilled. Starship pressurized. And for the first time, it didn’t explode"...
[13:21:41] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Starship Chilled. Starship Pressurized. and for the First Time, It Didn’t Explode" (10 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[14:07:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Word Decrees All High-School IT Teachers Were Wrong: Double Spaces Now Flagged as Typos - https://sylnt.us - and-then-they-discovered--
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[14:30:36] <AndyTheAbsurd> Great...another thing I'm going to die mad about.
[14:30:43] <AndyTheAbsurd> I should start keeping a list.
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[14:34:06] <Bytram> What? That Microsoft got it wrong? =)
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[14:37:36] <GrandFireWizard> people still doublespace?
[14:37:46] <GrandFireWizard> microsoft dictates language syntax?
[14:37:58] <GrandFireWizard> what crappy world are we living in...
[14:38:06] <GrandFireWizard> it's 2020.. where's my flying car :(
[14:38:31] <Bytram> In George Jetson's briefcase =)
[14:39:10] <AndyTheAbsurd> Jetson!...You're FIRED!
[14:39:24] <Bytram> Yes Mr Spacely
[14:40:35] <GrandFireWizard> at least we don't have to live in the clouds due to the issues with living close to the ground
[14:40:46] <Bytram> Wall-E
[14:41:09] <GrandFireWizard> hmmm
[14:41:11] <GrandFireWizard> wait
[14:41:45] <GrandFireWizard> the Jetsons.. lived.. "in the clouds"
[14:42:08] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[14:42:10] <systemd> ^ 03Film Theory: Wall-E's SECRET Villain (Disney Pixar's Wall-E)
[14:44:42] <GrandFireWizard> https://www.theverge.com
[14:44:44] <systemd> ^ 03The Jetsons is actually a bone-chilling dystopia
[14:49:33] <GrandFireWizard> a Jetsons remake
[14:49:43] <GrandFireWizard> This is now news??
[14:49:54] <GrandFireWizard> hmm... oops. Let's try That Again.
[14:49:59] <GrandFireWizard> This is not news??
[14:50:51] <FatPhil> http://archive.is
[14:50:53] <systemd> ^ 03What COVID-19 Revealed About the Internet - The Atlantic
[14:51:56] <GrandFireWizard> it's made of tubes?
[14:52:15] <GrandFireWizard> it needs an upgrade? to Internet 3.0 Freedomland
[14:55:28] <pinchy> FreedomTubes
[14:57:02] <GrandFireWizard> Quick! Get the ipecac! Someone drank the koolaid!
[14:58:31] <GrandFireWizard> Useful stuff if you are ever swallowed by a man eating snake
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[15:31:50] <guy_> Are US senators and congressmen emailing you, asking for money? Kamala Harris just asked me a minute ago. I hit "reply" and sent her this:
[15:31:57] <guy_> Joe Biden sucks. You guys gave away the entire election when you named him your champion. And, I don't like you either, Kamala the Camel face.
[15:34:59] <guy_> For the record, I'm not that rude to all of them
[15:36:37] <SoyCow3027-vb> do you have a lookup table detailing how rude to be to each?
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[15:44:17] <TurkeyWaddle> =submit https://phys.org
[15:44:19] <systemd> Submitting "Researchers crack COVID-19 genome signature"...
[15:44:40] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Researchers Crack COVID-19 Genome Signature" (13 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[15:45:19] <SoyCow3027-vb> https://xkcd.com and todays https://xkcd.com
[15:45:19] <systemd> ^ 03Coronavirus Genome
[15:45:20] <systemd> ^ 03Coronavirus Genome 2
[15:47:34] <guy_> No tables, it just depends how much I despise the individual writing to me
[15:50:05] <SoyCow3027-vb> does that mean your dispise level fluctuates over time? I do not like that lack of consistency
[15:51:26] * SoyCow3027-vb is in a very boring zoom meeting
[15:53:14] <guy_> Oh no, my despite is consistent for each politician
[15:53:29] <guy_> one politico deserves more than another, etc
[15:54:08] <guy_> https://www.youtube.com
[15:54:09] <systemd> ^ 03Gin Blossoms - Hey Jealousy (Official Video)
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[16:14:48] <chromas> No zoom bombs?
[16:15:00] <SoyCow3027-vb> not today ;)
[16:15:04] <Ingar> be glad, we have to use Teams at work
[16:17:35] <chromas> I bet Teams only routes calls through the NSA. Much better latency
[16:17:37] <guy_> little ditty 'bout Jack and Diane
[16:17:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Lenovo is Joining Dell in the “OEM Linux Laptop” Club - https://sylnt.us - good-luck-with-that
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[16:24:31] <Ingar> chromas: NATO already comment they don't really like our company doing business with the russians
[16:24:37] <Ingar> *already commented
[16:24:58] <Ingar> (true story)
[17:38:37] <chromas> Is Zoom Russian? I thought it was Chineese
[17:44:56] <carny> when nsa couldn't break every skype call and whined about it the company got sold to microsoft (who received a few million dollars to incentivize the purchase) and they immediately got rid of the p2p connection feature
[17:45:12] <carny> after that every packet got routed to a microsoft owned server
[17:46:37] <carny> but let's pretend that skype and zoom are both completely secure
[17:46:53] <chromas> Is that what happened? I remember nobody being sure if Skype was even secure because nobody bothered to audit it
[17:47:57] <carny> it was secure enough that nsa hated the company enough to siphon off some of their budget to make the purchase happen
[17:48:37] <carny> of course once microsoft's datacenters became the hubs to kill the p2p feature performance went to hell
[17:48:55] <carny> no more best option routing
[17:50:33] <Bytram> chromas: at one time, IIRC, skype was decentralized with 1 out of N (50?) nodes being deemed super nodes. They would coordinate a backbone and forward communications between local users and other supernodes that would connect to their local users. After MS bought them it got converted to a central hub and spokes model. Never used it myself, but that is my recollection from what I read at the time.
[17:57:12] <chromas> Did it use FastTrack or something?
[17:59:40] <Bytram> no idea; just a vague recollection of the bru-ha-ha that resulted from the consolidation and cries of the potential for surveillance of all the streams.
[17:59:49] <Bytram> =g wikipedia skype
[17:59:50] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Skype - Wikipedia
[17:59:55] <Bytram> =g wikipedia skype history
[17:59:56] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Skype - Wikipedia
[18:01:29] <Bytram> here ya go:
[18:01:31] <Bytram> https://en.wikipedia.org
[18:01:32] <systemd> ^ 03Skype - Wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org )
[18:02:03] <chromas> oh yeah, it was created by the kazaa guys (who used and/or created fasttrack) but hopefully it was better than that
[18:09:06] <Bytram> Skype originally featured a hybrid peer-to-peer and client–server system.[18] Skype has been powered entirely by Microsoft-operated supernodes since May 2012.[19] The 2013 mass surveillance disclosures revealed that Microsoft had granted intelligence agencies unfettered access to supernodes and Skype communication content.[20]
[18:09:06] <Bytram> Throughout 2016 and 2017, Microsoft redesigned its Skype clients in a way that transitioned Skype from peer-to-peer service to a centralized Azure service
[18:09:30] <Bytram> .
[18:09:37] <Bytram> Skype's division headquarters are in Luxembourg, but most of the development team and 44% of all the division's employees are still situated in Tallinn and Tartu, Estonia.
[18:09:49] <Bytram> #weather tallinn
[18:09:51] <MrPlow> Pärnu mnt 67a, 10131 Tallinn, Estonia - Today: "Light rain starting in the afternoon." 43/34F, Humidity: 69%, Precip: 86%, Wind ~10mph. Wed: "Possible drizzle in the morning." 45/29F, Humidity: 75%, Precip: 64%, Wind ~10mph. Thu: "Clear throughout the day." 45/31F, Humidity: 66%, Precip: 10%, Wind ~5mph.
[18:10:38] <carny> skype has been completely compromised since shortly after the purchase
[18:11:09] <carny> some of the redesign decisions they made only make sense if your highest priority is surveillance
[18:12:12] <chromas> What if it's only their second highest?
[18:12:43] <carny> then their first highest gets taken care of with that slush fund money ;]
[18:13:11] <Bytram> 2nd highest... what?
[18:13:36] <chromas> priority
[18:16:33] <carny> i should have saved those chats and documents about this
[18:17:42] <carny> but i stopped trusting skype as soon as the first buy-out discussions started and i didn't care enough about it after that to record anything
[18:18:28] <carny> i wonder if you can even find the tech blogs of the time talking about nsa complaining and offering a reward
[18:25:11] <Bytram> they'lll get to it, eventually
[18:25:19] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[18:25:21] <systemd> ^ 03Petnet's Smart Pet Feeder System Back after Week-Long Outage - SoylentNews
[18:26:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - On its 15th Birthday, the Airbus A380 is Facing Retirement - https://sylnt.us - it-was-nice-flying-on-you
[18:36:13] <chromas> https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net
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[21:18:08] <Guest68> Hola :P
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[21:24:39] * Deucalion squints at driveby - is that a gun???
[21:28:02] <chromas> He does driveby linkings
[21:28:09] <driveby> https://cdnb.artstation.com
[21:29:07] <Deucalion> Sounds useful :/
[21:29:36] <driveby> https://i.4pcdn.org
[21:30:42] <Deucalion> He one of yours chromas?
[21:30:56] <chromas> Not mine
[21:31:00] * chromas suspects pinchy
[21:33:01] <driveby> https://i.4pcdn.org
[21:33:46] <Deucalion> OK - just randomly linkifying images in here is going to get old real fast and will incur a ban / line. We have #test for a reason...
[21:34:15] <driveby> :(
[21:35:56] <driveby> https://imgur.com
[21:35:56] <systemd> ^ 03You Make Me Sad (Reaction Gif)
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[21:36:24] <Deucalion> Don't be sad driveby :D
[21:36:58] <chromas> He'll be back. He always comes back
[21:37:41] <Deucalion> Shows how I never really have the time to read all the scrollback on #soylent :(
[21:39:38] <chromas> You're not missing a lot
[21:39:43] <chromas> Especially when I'm here :D
[21:49:59] <pinchy> Sum Ting Wong
[22:45:14] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 'Dino Cave' Reveals Dinosaur Crouch Walkers - https://sylnt.us - Duck!
[23:33:29] <GrandFireWizard> He must be from Discord..
[23:39:17] <Bytram> GrandFireWizard: s/Dis/Dat/
[23:39:18] <exec> <Bytram> <GrandFireWizard> He must be from Datcord..
[23:39:40] <Bytram> from the Dis-and-Dat dept
[23:47:50] <carny> Deucalion: the image links are reactions to context
[23:48:04] <carny> i'm pretty sure driveby is not an english speaker
[23:49:08] <carny> well that's my working theory based on my gut feeling and the fact he responds to people talking but doesn't talk back
[23:50:35] <carny> hmm or now that it think about it maybe driveby is a she
[23:52:49] <chromas> or an it
[23:53:27] <carny> remind me to ask for their preferred pronouns
[23:54:00] <chromas> Maybe it's a bot like that other guy
[23:54:14] <chromas> who hasn't come back so far