#soylent | Logs for 2020-04-20

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[00:08:11] <chromas> Only one pizza?
[00:09:29] <chromas> Does anyone know what to do when an old gmail account won't let me login or recover account because "You're trying to sign in on a device Google doesn't recognize, and we don't have enough information to verify that it's you. For your protection, you can't sign in here right now."?
[00:10:35] <chromas> google--
[00:10:35] <Bender> karma - google: -26
[00:15:00] <Bytram> chromas: maybe... Search on that phrase and see what others have done?
[00:18:11] <chromas> Yeah, it looks like there's no solution
[00:21:53] <AndyTheAbsurd> I think the solution is "spend a lot of time chasing down Google customer support".
[00:23:47] <Bytram> chromas: From a quick skim through a couple threads... Have you actually tried to recover your account?
[00:24:24] <chromas> I have. As soon as I put in the email address to recover it just says the same thing
[00:24:30] <Bytram> k
[00:24:52] <Bytram> curious... how long ago were you last able to access the account?
[00:24:53] <chromas> If you scroll the threads enough you'll find most of the people weren't helped :D
[00:25:09] <Bytram> I was getting that impression.
[00:25:17] <chromas> Maybe a few months ago
[00:25:56] <chromas> Perhaps this is the motivation I need to splurge $8 on a domain and host my own mail
[00:25:57] <Bytram> Using the same device as before?
[00:26:03] <Bytram> IP address, too?
[00:26:12] <Bytram> OS? Browser?
[00:26:39] <chromas> Same puter, Tried all the browsers. Same IP 'cause it hasn't changed in a couple years at least
[00:26:43] <Bytram> Browser fingerprinting is a thing and if you have a Google account, they've been tracking as much of that stuff as they can.
[00:26:47] <Bytram> k
[00:27:02] <chromas> I wonder if I can add it to my regular gmail account
[00:27:05] <Bytram> Got two more suggestions.
[00:27:24] <Bytram> Would a hacker trying to steal your account attempt that?
[00:27:37] * Bytram has no google account of any kind.
[00:28:22] <chromas> Possibly. Other people said they got a notice their password had recently been changed.
[00:28:29] <Bytram> cf social engineering. How can they know you are you and not somebody who is desperately trying to *steal* your account?
[00:29:41] <chromas> Heh, now it's making me do captchas
[00:29:51] <Bytram> what distinguishing info do they have that they can use to give you access to the account, without so increasing the risk of an account hijacking that they get a black eye for releasing the account to someone else?
[00:29:52] <chromas> well for one thing, I have the password
[00:30:23] <Bytram> Those have been known to be customized. Shoulder surfing, for example. Key logging, tooo.
[00:30:28] <Bytram> brb
[00:30:43] <chromas> They could also allow me to do the account recovery procedure instead of nothing
[00:31:02] <Bytram> A common suggestion was to wait at least 48 hours after any kind of access attempt before trying again.
[00:31:49] <chromas> oh yeah. important info I s'pose. I got a notice to main main account (because it's recovery account) when I tried to login with rainloop (self-hosted webmail interface).
[00:31:50] <Bytram> After that, I'd suggest submitting a story posing this question. I suspect others in the community have faced this, and might have some experience to share that could help.
[00:32:20] <chromas> And another notice when trying to link it to my other account
[00:32:21] <chromas> Yeah, I'll have to wait even longer
[00:32:29] <chromas> Thanks for the helps though
[00:32:30] <Bytram> our community seems to have a good group of folk who like to solve problems and help.
[00:32:56] <Bytram> Also gives 'em a distraction from the pandemic, too.
[00:33:06] <Bytram> And, it just might help!
[00:35:18] <Bytram> So, if you submit a story, it helps to enumerate the initial symptom, (i.e. how you first became aware something was amiss -- what were you doing, same/different computer/IP address/browser, anything you can remember), then steps you have tried on your own, and then put it out to the community for what they found helpful.
[00:35:22] <Bytram> beware, though
[00:35:48] <Bytram> an old adage states: "Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one and they all stink."
[00:36:23] <Bytram> Hence asking for *experience* not just what do you think I should do (though, lacking the former, I would not totally dismiss the latter!)
[00:46:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Constrained Structure of Ancient Chinese Poetry Facilitates Speech Content Grouping - https://sylnt.us - that's-what-I-said
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[01:45:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Every Security Issue Uncovered so far in the Zoom Video Chat App - https://sylnt.us - 200-Million-Daily-Telescreens?-See:-"1984"
[01:58:34] <chromas> Hm, all the good domain names are taken
[02:14:10] <Bytram> Don't worry! Just go for a bad name! I mean, how "good" is xkcd.com anyway?
[02:14:53] <Bytram> =g SLS space launch system
[02:14:54] <systemd> https://www.nasa.gov - Space Launch System | NASA
[02:15:00] <Bytram> =g SLS space launch system wikipedia
[02:15:01] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Space Launch System - Wikipedia
[02:15:12] <chromas> That's what we should've done during the site name vote
[02:16:33] <chromas> Is there a new launch?
[02:18:50] <Bytram> boca chica time zone
[02:18:57] <Bytram> =g boca chica time zone
[02:18:58] <systemd> https://www.timetemperature.com - Boca Chica, Texas Current Local Time and Time Zone
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[02:27:43] <AnonymousCoward> =submit https://soylentnews.org
[02:27:45] <systemd> Submitting "Security lapse exposed Clearview AI source code : SoylentNews Submission"...
[02:28:01] <AnonymousCoward> =submit https://techcrunch.com
[02:28:02] <systemd> Submitting "Security lapse exposed Clearview AI source code – TechCrunch"...( 1 modified urls; https://social.techcrunch.com )
[02:28:06] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Security Lapse Exposed Clearview AI Source Code : SoylentNews Submission" (4 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[02:28:24] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Security Lapse Exposed Clearview AI Source Code – TechCrunch" (26 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[03:31:09] <kyonko> Client: HexChat 2.14.3 • OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (x64) • CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU N3710 @ 1.60GHz (1.60GHz) • Memory: 3.9 GiB Total (748.5 MiB Free) • Storage: 297.7 GiB / 455.2 GiB (157.5 GiB Free) • VGA: Intel(R) HD Graphics • Uptime: 24m 21s
[03:32:25] <AzumaHazuki> that hardware would run a light Linux distro nicely :)
[03:32:51] <kyonko> yes, it runs nomadbsd very well
[03:33:05] <kyonko> (I hit too many open files error because of the ramdisk)
[03:33:41] <kyonko> i got linux mint on a usb, the touch screen works
[03:37:11] <kyonko> I was reading on news.ycombinator.com that there are some serious fucking problems with modern computer man-machine interfaces
[03:37:51] <AzumaHazuki> indeed. touchscreens are stupid and this has been known since the 70s. the interfaces are dumbed down as hell
[03:38:20] <kyonko> I have a logitech ergonomic mouse
[03:38:45] <kyonko> its a trackball
[03:40:28] <kyonko> I'm a very late adoptor of technology
[03:41:23] <kyonko> I remember the CRT touchscreens, very unhygenic lol
[03:48:36] <kyonko> why is the naked butt in the tom hank's movie such a big deal?
[04:35:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Australia to Force Internet Giants to Pay Publishers - https://sylnt.us - here-we-go-again
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[06:56:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Copyright Holders Have to 'Resend' Millions of Pirate Bay Takedown Notices - https://sylnt.us - a-video,-by-any-other-name-^W-url,-is-still-a-video
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[07:59:37] <Ethanol-fueled> Banned.
[08:00:04] <Ethanol-fueled> Jews and Chinks. Working together to destroy America.
[08:00:15] <Ethanol-fueled> Big surprise there.
[08:01:03] <Ethanol-fueled> Especially for the next 40 years. Let's discuss the Jews first, and the Chinks next.
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[08:29:14] <chromas> I'm reading the internet and I don't understand how in postfix, I'm supposed to block relaying with mynetworks but still be able to send out email.
[08:32:16] <FatPhil> smtpd_relay_restrictions = permit_mynetworks permit_sasl_authenticated defer_unauth_de
[08:32:19] <FatPhil> stination
[08:34:03] <chromas> Ah
[08:34:12] <chromas> I have permit_sasl_authenticated,reject
[08:34:35] <chromas> and permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated, reject_unauth_destination
[08:34:40] <chromas> depending on the file I guess
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[08:36:14] <driveby> https://i.4pcdn.org
[08:37:45] <driveby> https://www.thelocal.de
[08:37:50] <driveby> 5 Apr 2020
[08:37:58] <driveby> https://www.businessinsider.com
[08:37:59] <systemd> ^ 03Study: 6% of recovered coronavirus patients didn't develop antibodies - Business Insider
[08:38:05] <driveby> 11 Apr 2020
[08:39:20] <driveby> https://www.theguardian.com
[08:39:23] <systemd> ^ 03'Immunity passports' could speed up return to work after Covid-19
[08:39:28] <driveby> 30 Mar 2020
[08:39:42] <driveby> https://www.france24.com
[08:39:43] <systemd> ^ 03‘Grave concerns’ about Covid-19 immunity passports
[08:39:53] <driveby> 16 Apr 2020
[08:40:09] <driveby> https://youtu.be
[08:40:11] <systemd> ^ 03'The CDC is actually a vaccine company' – Robert F. Kennedy Jr ( https://www.youtube.com )
[08:40:42] <chromas> Looks like I borked smtpd_helo_restrictions by copying it from main.cf but it's not needed I guess
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[08:41:07] <chromas> Yay, I'm not an open relay!
[08:41:09] <chromas> FatPhil++
[08:41:09] <Bender> karma - fatphil: 62
[08:42:25] * chromas is almost a big boy now
[08:55:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Australian MPs Refuse COVID-19 App Due to Privacy Concerns - https://sylnt.us - If-it's-good-for-the-public-it's-good-for-the-MPs
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[11:05:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Pandemic Robs Field Scientists of ‘Once-in-a-Lifetime’ Moments - https://sylnt.us - lost-opportunities
[11:20:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:20:56] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5183
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[12:10:27] <cmn32480> coffee++
[12:10:27] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5184
[12:12:02] <AndyTheAbsurd> 420-- # the culture around marijuana is stupid.
[12:12:02] <Bender> karma - 420: -1
[12:14:17] <FatPhil> https://www.youtube.com
[12:14:18] <systemd> ^ 03German tabloid 'Bild' demands China pay coronavirus damages
[12:20:08] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:20:08] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5185
[12:20:14] <Bytram> legcramps--
[12:20:14] <Bender> karma - legcramps: -16
[12:20:55] <AndyTheAbsurd> I had to go look up what "Bild" is German for. ("Picture", for those wondering.)
[12:21:15] * Bytram went out for a nice long walk late yesterday afternoon. Did not think to stretch out before, or after. :/
[12:21:29] <cmn32480> sleep is highly overrated...
[12:21:31] <Bytram> Yep. Das Bild, IIRC.
[12:21:39] <cmn32480> but I miss it all the same
[12:22:05] <Bytram> chromas: it's overrated just like all he rest
[12:22:12] <Bytram> chromas: it's overrated just like all the rest
[12:22:33] <AndyTheAbsurd> fucking gendered nouns for non-living objects! why can't everything not alive just be "das"?!
[12:22:49] <cmn32480> blame the romans
[12:22:57] <cmn32480> they started that shit..
[12:23:06] <cmn32480> all the Romance languages do it
[12:23:10] <AndyTheAbsurd> <Life of Brain "what did the Romans ever do for us?" scene>
[12:23:14] <Bytram> AndyTheAbsurd: Like my dearly departed mom? ;)
[12:24:28] <Bytram> AndyTheAbsurd: But, yeah. I'm right there with ya. Sense. No. Makes.
[12:24:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> Bytram: ...okay, let's make it never-living objects.
[12:24:44] <Bytram> what is life? ;)
[12:25:18] * cmn32480 thinks this is getting to philosophical fro his lack-o-sleep addled brain
[12:25:35] <Bytram> it is way too early in the morning for such a deep philosophical discussion
[12:25:57] <AndyTheAbsurd> let's all go look at porn instead!
[12:26:01] <Bytram> and too early for me to type with any rapidity
[12:26:11] <Bytram> Das Pron?
[12:26:15] <cmn32480> I'd need to borrow the "naping for dummies" page out of TMB's book
[12:26:30] <Bytram> naping is like vaping?
[12:27:10] <cmn32480> yes.. but sleepier
[12:27:14] <Bytram> ~blame
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[12:27:22] <Bytram> he's baaaack!
[12:27:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, i teach a master class on sundays
[12:27:29] <Bytram> cmn32480++
[12:27:29] <Bender> karma - cmn32480: 101
[12:27:33] <cmn32480> i was yard working on Sunday
[12:27:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, that's wrong right from the start
[12:28:01] <Bytram> yarr!
[12:28:14] <cmn32480> i know.. but happy wife happy life
[12:28:31] <cmn32480> and I got to teach the oldest how to propperly use a grub ax
[12:29:12] <Bytram> with feet well apart!
[12:29:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> i thought napping WAS how you properly use a grub axe
[12:29:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> same as how to properly use posthole diggers
[12:52:10] <FatPhil> you can't blame the romans for gendered nouns in germanic languages - they developed that independently.
[12:55:00] <AndyTheAbsurd> Sure we can! Just because it isn't historically accurate doesn't mean we can't do it!
[12:55:29] <FatPhil> good point
[12:55:38] <FatPhil> I blame Trump!
[13:09:16] <Ingar> this is why I failed german in high school
[13:09:27] <Ingar> only 33% chance to get the gender right
[13:10:07] <Ingar> french has better odds
[13:16:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Boca Chica, Texas: Scheduled Road and Beach Closures for SpaceX Testing - https://sylnt.us - schedule-for-rapid-unscheduled-disassembly
[13:21:44] <janrinok> Ingar, .. and the French either don't care which gender I use for a noun whenever I speak to them, or they don't even know for sure themselves
[13:22:55] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard, do you mean the posthole diggers that eventually somebody sits on to spin round and round before flying off in some direction or other?
[13:23:16] * janrinok is there another use for them?
[13:25:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> janrinok, mostly i mean the tool that the proper using of is most strongly denied by anyone who has ever had the misfortune to learn how
[13:25:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://www.homedepot.com
[13:25:17] <systemd> ^ 03Post Hole Digger - Post Hole Digger - The Home Depot
[13:29:34] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard, apparently I don't have access to that page!
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[13:30:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> try here: https://cdn10.bigcommerce.com
[13:31:18] <AndyTheAbsurd> I was about to upload a screenshot...
[13:32:16] <janrinok> ah, never seen one of those before. I was thinking of the motorised corkscrew thingy...
[13:32:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> they're less fun to use than a proctologist's rubber glove
[13:33:11] <janrinok> but better that nothing at all - also like a proctologist's rubber glove
[13:33:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> gnawed gnawed
[13:34:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, you should be able to ssh over to dev, btw. at least if you kinit first. you're in the firefighters group. need to be in the developers group to get your sudo on though.
[13:34:55] <AndyTheAbsurd> Last couple of posts I put up, I just a shovel instead of a specialized tool.
[13:35:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> I was replace fence posts that got blown over in a hurricane and I had a friend to help, so getting a very hole wasn't really a priority.
[13:38:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> janrinok, added you to the dev group. you should have godlike powah on dev from ssh.
[13:38:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> AndyTheAbsurd, they're especially fun if you have hard pan clay instead of dirt.
[13:41:20] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Not with post holes, but I spent way too much time one summer as a teen digging out from around an old bulkhead that had collapsed inward and needed to be removed and replaced. Last foot(?) or so was solid clay. Nothing for it but brute force and persistence. Oh and best to do in AM before the day's heat sets in!
[13:41:34] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard, much obliged
[13:41:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> janrinok, you absosmurfly do have to kinit first or you won't be able to get off of boron
[13:42:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, pick axe is way better for clay if you're not dealing with a narrow hole
[13:43:41] <Bytram> shoulder width.
[13:44:41] * janrinok searches for the piece of paper with the appropriate passwords on it....
[13:44:57] <Bytram> about 6 foot deep when done. Trying to toss each shovel full out of the hole without having it fall back in was an added challenge
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[13:46:47] <Bytram> They could have rented a small backhoe and had it done in a morning. As a strapping young teen, I was "free" labor and they just got to wait a while.
[13:54:55] * TheMightyBuzzard recovers janrinok's password for him
[13:55:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> janrinok, swordfish
[13:58:17] <Bytram> story queue looks good (thanks guys!) Got some stuff to do. Laters!
[14:27:04] <GrandFireWizard> =submit https://www.news.com.au
[14:27:06] <systemd> Submitting "Fresh drama over Malcolm Turnbull’s new book"...
[14:27:28] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Fresh Drama Over Malcolm Turnbull’S New Book" (24 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:28:17] <GrandFireWizard> "Defence Minister Marise Payne, who admitted on live television she had also “received and deleted” an illegal copy." - if you haven't seen that.. it's worth watching
[14:28:41] <GrandFireWizard> An Australian PM being grilled on national TV over book piracy in the parliament
[14:32:24] <Ingar> oh my, an illegal copy? the book has been declared illegal?
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[14:54:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ingar, it's an assault document. it has more than a ten page magazine.
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[14:55:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Boca Chica, Texas: Scheduled Road and Beach Closures for SpaceX Testing [Updated] - https://sylnt.us - schedule-for-rapid-unscheduled-disassembly
[14:56:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net
[14:56:42] * TheMightyBuzzard cackles
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[15:20:48] <FatPhil> you takin' the piss out of albinos?
[15:21:01] * FatPhil slaps TMB
[15:28:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - National Security Concerns Just Won Out Over Twitter's Attempt to be Transparent About Surveillance - https://sylnt.us - who-watches-the-watchers?
[15:28:42] <AndyTheAbsurd> =yt John Carter white apes
[15:28:43] <systemd> https://youtube.com - John Carter (2012) john fights in the arena | white apes fighting scene (4:59)
[15:32:15] <FatPhil> wotdafuq have I just watched?
[15:33:32] <AndyTheAbsurd> Part of an adaptation of Edgar Rice Burroughs' "A Princess of Mars" to film.
[15:35:54] <FatPhil> So pulp transmogrified into trash, OK.
[15:36:22] <FatPhil> Have I seen enough of it to give a valid rating on IMDB, or do I need to watch any more?
[15:36:55] <AndyTheAbsurd> Hey, man, the pulp novels are by the same guy that created Tarzan of the Apes.
[15:37:21] <AndyTheAbsurd> It skips over a lot of stuff from the book, adds some stuff from later books in the series, and just makes up a few things along the way; but overall, I'd give a 8/10 if you're looking for a "popcorn" film but only a 2/10 if you're looking for a "thoughtful" film.
[15:48:58] <FatPhil> I correlate extremely highly with Mick LaSalle in general, so it don't look promising: https://www.metacritic.com
[15:49:02] <systemd> ^ 03John Carter
[15:51:47] <FatPhil> We're always on the lookout for entertaining popcorn movies, the first 3 seconds of that clip briefly gave me some hope.
[15:52:52] <FatPhil> When it comes to fighting apes, I liked plenty from the planet of the apes prequel series.
[16:13:49] <Ingar> meh.. my DNS really doesnt like soylentnews
[16:14:59] <Ingar> if I go to https://soylentnews.org t he first time, it doesnt resolve, if I then go to https://www.soylentnews.org then I get the mobile version. If I reload that, I get the right version. AFter that I can usually visit soylentnews.org (sans www.)
[16:15:00] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[16:15:02] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people
[16:15:12] * Ingar is people
[16:17:01] <FatPhil> Ingar is person, people are dumb panicky dangerous animals
[16:18:43] <Ingar> thanks, FatPhil
[16:18:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ingar, we don't have a mobile version, just a broken version.
[16:19:04] <Ingar> TheMightyBuzzard: the version with blue links on white background and no graphics :D
[16:19:29] <Ingar> might just as well be some CSS that isn;t loading or so
[16:19:37] <Ingar> I blame my ISP though
[16:19:40] <Ingar> my ISP are people
[16:19:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, that's on account of it shouldn't be serving up content to www requests but does anyway
[16:20:43] <Ingar> I have this on multiple machines/OSs too
[16:21:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'prolly your dns provider. mine was shitting out a lot of yesterday, so anything i wasn't already connected to wouldn't resolve
[16:23:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> if it bothers you too much you can temporarily add "23.239.29.31 soylentnews.org" to your hosts file. i don't *expect* to be switching load balancers any time soon.
[16:24:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> but we do occasionally switch so we can update/reboot one.
[16:24:56] * TheMightyBuzzard buggers off to do more stuff
[16:25:40] <Ingar> I absolutely blame my DNS
[16:26:11] <FatPhil> change server? use 8.8.8.8?
[16:27:31] <Ingar> afaik my ISP blocks all traffic to port 53 except their DNS
[16:32:25] <FatPhil> In that case, if they are selling you "the internet", they are conning you. I demanded my ISPs remove all filters on my home and office connections, using the argument that what they were removing was a valid part of the internet.
[16:33:33] <FatPhil> Techies at the ISP were quite nerdy, and when I explained my case to them they said "yeah, we just want to protect our networks against windoze weenies"
[16:36:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Boca Chica, Texas: Scheduled Road and Beach Closures for SpaceX Testing [Updates: 2] - https://sylnt.us - schedule-for-rapid-unscheduled-disassembly
[16:42:05] <Ingar> FatPhil: my ISP is a certified bitch.
[16:42:54] <Ingar> owned by Liberty GLobal
[16:43:27] <janrinok> Ingar, I was having similar problems getting SN to resolve yesterday. I'm in France but as I don't know where you are I'm not sure if there are any common links other than the site itself.
[16:43:45] <Ingar> janrinok: I'm in Belgium, near Brussels
[16:44:27] <janrinok> not too far apart then. I had about an hour of problems yesterday, and it is something that I might experience once or twice a month.
[16:45:10] <Ingar> it hadn't happened in a while though, so I had hoped it was fixed
[16:45:25] <Ingar> but, all in all, nothing life threathening. I'll survive
[16:46:28] <Ingar> I need to mess with my LAN anyway. get a decent router and all that
[16:46:55] <Ingar> the bitches forced an ISP-mandated router on me
[16:47:08] <Ingar> I urgently need to get rid of it
[16:47:18] <Ingar> I don't like them snooping my LAN
[16:47:36] <janrinok> I don't trust ISP provided routers - for the very same reason that you appear not to!
[16:48:51] <Ingar> I mostly miss having my own DHCP
[16:49:12] <Ingar> before, I had a local caching DNS, webcache + filter, NTP, ... the works
[16:49:47] <janrinok> what haven't you got now? They can't have taken all that away from you can ther?
[16:49:58] <janrinok> can they?*
[16:50:19] <Ingar> I moved and they gave me a new router
[16:50:40] <Ingar> "it was not possible to put it in briudged mode"
[16:51:13] <Ingar> I just haven't found the motivation to call their customer support and play angry customer
[16:51:24] <janrinok> understood
[16:51:29] <Ingar> (and build a new router ;) )
[16:51:58] <Ingar> it was actually on my TODO for this spring
[16:52:13] <Ingar> and then the chinavirus arrived
[16:53:20] <janrinok> yep - it's being a right pain in the arse for many reasons
[16:53:57] <Ingar> I should also bursh up on my IPv6, because I don't have a clue ^^
[16:54:02] <Ingar> *brush up
[16:54:44] <janrinok> I think most of Europe is on IPv6 now
[16:55:12] <Ingar> I know I am, I just have no idea how to config an IPv6 network
[16:55:21] <janrinok> it is unusual to find a site that isn't
[17:00:24] <Ingar> /whois ingar
[17:01:34] <chromas> My internets flake out all the time, but only the ipv6 part
[17:02:16] <chromas> Configuring ipv6 isn't too hard though. Just enable autoconfig. You'll most likely get a pubic ip for everything and there's mostly no reason for nat
[17:37:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Art Of Printing Extremely Hard Steels Flawlessly - https://sylnt.us - martenized-steel
[17:55:35] <kyonko> i'm on geostationary satellite internet, took a while for ipv6 to work
[17:56:05] <kyonko> not that a give a fuck if they see my private parts or track me
[17:56:06] <chromas> How's your latency?
[17:56:33] <kyonko> well, I did a test
[17:56:35] <kyonko> with voip
[17:57:06] <kyonko> mom was at the drive way, i was at the door step, I watched her lips, there is no latency that the human physique can percerive
[17:57:38] <kyonko> I don't play games, I see the forest for the trees
[17:58:32] <kyonko> the latency is real, its 3 earth distances away to and from
[17:59:19] <kyonko> but hey, we don't know what the earth weight is riiiiiiiiight?
[18:02:04] <kyonko> straight lines...... where do they come from?
[18:02:09] <kyonko> magnets how do they work?
[18:02:36] <kyonko> dies
[18:03:11] <janrinok> I hope he is leaving the place looking untidy by dying like that....
[18:03:19] <janrinok> *isn't
[18:04:29] <FatPhil> I live on a sphere, my straight lines don't come from or go to anywhere.
[18:04:54] <kyonko> i've got a die for sale with the world's tiniest violin
[18:05:12] <kyonko> but some say the world's tiniest violin is a stencil
[18:05:18] <kyonko> space aids
[18:09:47] <kyonko> can you guys imagine if a bacteria merges with ai and robotics?
[18:09:48] <FatPhil> that's like lyrics from some 70s art rock band
[18:10:04] <kyonko> or worse, a non-living virus
[18:10:18] <janrinok> after smoking a joint and taking a few tabs of Lucy....
[18:10:31] <kyonko> nah, no more weed for this guy... "gmo"
[18:10:40] <FatPhil> Most people consider viruses to be non-living
[18:10:53] <kyonko> when you research gmo you hit the gene gun
[18:10:55] <chromas> Most people or most scientists?
[18:11:02] <kyonko> I'm igor
[18:11:06] <janrinok> there you go again - confusing people with facts
[18:11:07] <FatPhil> most scientists
[18:11:18] <chromas> Is that pronounced Igor or Igor?
[18:11:20] <kyonko> scientist, obligate mathematics
[18:11:38] <kyonko> artist, math not required
[18:12:39] <kyonko> why can't chad read?
[18:12:53] <kyonko> don't worry, becky can
[18:12:56] <kyonko> she just can't count
[18:14:22] <FatPhil> g/f wrote a poem last week, I think it's pretty witty. I'll get her to stick it online somewhere, and then point you towards it, as I'd like feedback.
[18:14:56] <janrinok> k
[18:15:14] <kyonko> oh yay, tumblr
[18:15:15] <kyonko> \o/
[18:19:36] <kyonko> how long before we see a becky in yoga pants and nerdy bun walking an 8 ft tall mute chad on the street with a man size child's harness?
[18:24:46] <chromas> Why go to Tumblr when you can use Bing images?
[19:01:44] <FatPhil> g/f's poem wasn't just a poem, it was an anagram of another poem: http://www.anagrammy.com
[19:01:44] <systemd> ^ 03Two different sardonic futuristic/dystopic poems
[19:02:09] <FatPhil> In retrospect, it doesn't contain a 'wirth' pun, so could be better ;-)
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[19:04:08] <chromas> Does it at least contain an anagram of a 'wirth' poem?
[19:04:22] <chromas> s/oem/un/
[19:04:43] <driveby> https://twitter.com
[19:04:44] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter ( https://mobile.twitter.com )
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[19:05:48] <chromas> I thought that happened weeks ago
[19:07:46] <FatPhil> annoyingly "The whirr became flesh" is just as close to the original as "The Wirth became flesh", and only one letter different, but I don't see any places where I can swap out a t and shuffle in an r.
[19:08:16] <FatPhil> closer, if anything.
[19:11:05] <chromas> Sounds like it's time to break up.
[19:13:12] <FatPhil> "Switch ON, make haste -" could become "Make, switch on, share -"
[19:14:12] <FatPhil> You don't know 'er-indoors, she doesn't take criticism well! She'll be plotting my suffocation with pillows this evening...
[19:22:47] <FatPhil> chromas: yup, I reported the -ve oil price (some sour, I forget which) well over a week ago, possibly in the cesspit channel. And it gets less surprising over time, so this NYT guy's a bit slow...
[19:46:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Security Lapse Exposed Clearview AI Source Code - https://sylnt.us - forgot-to-secure-it-again
[19:50:08] <FatPhil> Two metres is not a safe interpersonal distance = It's too few, can transmit disease. Repent ... as loner (anagram)
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[20:19:04] * chromas finds a misspelling on FatPhil's Bent Rules page :D
[20:29:39] <FatPhil> get bent!
[20:29:41] <FatPhil> sorry,
[20:30:06] <FatPhil> get chromastically aberrated
[20:38:05] * chromas diffracts
[20:41:56] <FatPhil> 4 mistakes spotted, plus 1 if I consider all UK spellings to be better than all US spellings, which I don't.
[20:42:05] <FatPhil> chromas++ thanks!
[20:42:05] <Bender> karma - chromas: 284
[20:42:39] <FatPhil> ooooh 5 (or 6)
[21:21:28] <chromas> FatPhil++ #thanks for the articles
[21:21:28] <Bender> karma - fatphil: 63
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[21:45:16] <FatPhil> About a month of two ago I did encounter someone pushing some guideline as if it was a hard-and-fast rule, and I did mean to write something to debunk it, but I can't remember what it was now.
[21:46:19] <kyonko> uhm
[21:46:29] <kyonko> isotonic
[21:46:34] <kyonko> hypotonic
[21:46:43] <kyonko> lysis
[21:46:55] <kyonko> thats why my weed plant died when I was a kid in 2000
[21:48:18] <kyonko> punishment for drugs was mandatory ass rape
[21:50:13] <kyonko> here's a rule, guns are always loaded
[21:50:19] <kyonko> knives are always sharp
[21:50:24] <kyonko> fire spreads
[21:50:35] <kyonko> water is destructive
[21:56:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Jonathan Carter Wins Race to Lead Debian for Next Year - https://sylnt.us
[21:59:52] <FatPhil> No, Jonathan Carter is fighting monkeys on Mars, I saw a documentary about it earlier.
[22:00:17] <kyonko> ugh, life support medication time
[22:00:18] <kyonko> FML
[22:03:36] <kyonko> i'm fated for insulin
[22:03:44] <kyonko> fate maps
[22:03:51] <kyonko> fetal chad
[22:07:10] <kyonko> may your monkey not be a carrier
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[23:25:10] * FatPhil bows out for the night, tomorrows, all.
[23:25:36] <chromas> =g'noight FatPhil
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[23:25:39] <chromas> heh
[23:26:09] <chromas> Hm, 404 on the g'day script
[23:26:42] <chromas> ~g'night systemd
[23:26:43] * exec unwittingly scissors a hollowed out iMac of pantaloons for systemd
[23:29:04] <GrandFireWizard> =submit https://www.news.com.au
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[23:29:46] <systemd> Try again
[23:30:05] <systemd> I'd died, but then I came again.