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[01:57:30] <Sulla> Based on the normal progress throughout te period, is it likely that SN will meet the funding goal by june 30?
[02:48:47] <pinchy> RIP SN
[03:14:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> wut?
[03:27:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - China Suffers its Second Launch Failure in Less Than a Month - https://sylnt.us - expensive-fireball
[04:04:07] <Sulla> Need to know whether I should kick some of my RoMoney into the SN pot or just donate it back to the government like i was planning
[04:04:50] <Sulla> Wondering if we are on track to meet this half year's goal based on how prior years looked at this point
[04:06:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> Sulla, be a story up in the morning that should answer that.
[04:07:02] <Sulla> Cool
[04:08:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> tl;dr, we're extending everyone's subs until we burn through about half of our savings and asking them to spend local until either this crap is over or we can't afford it anymore.
[04:08:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> we don't create jobs so paying us don't help a crashing economy
[04:09:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> well, aside from our CPA and hosting providers but they're gonna keep getting paid anyway.
[04:09:51] <Sulla> Alright. Been spending an arm and a leg recently to keep my local chinese place open. Side benefit is i get to eat the food
[04:09:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> troof
[04:12:54] <Sulla> how is the church coming?
[04:12:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> we ain't shutting down the subs page though, cause it's your money and we ain't gonna twist your arm until you agree to not give it to us
[04:14:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, doing a couple pieces of plumbing and possibly grout in the morning. we been fucking off pretty hard though the last couple weeks.
[04:14:47] <Sulla> Wife and i are essential so its been more busy than normal. But Phantasy Star Online II came out for the US so been having fun with that
[04:14:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> contractor was supposed to do the grout but you can't get em to work during this stuff even if nobody's in the place but them.
[04:14:50] <Sulla> first time playing games in years
[04:14:58] <Sulla> yeah
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[04:16:02] <Sulla> Had some fun redoing laundry room, had to replcae the water heater so wife had me move it somewhere else. I enjoy plumbing until something doesnt work right
[04:16:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> just hope we can get the electrical inspector in soon. TN laws are fucked up and you can't pull another permit for the same thing until the next calendar year.
[04:16:28] <Sulla> Lame
[04:16:48] <Sulla> I need to get an inspector myself for a wall i replaced with a beam
[04:17:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> make sure you use those flexible metal pipes on the water lines that hook up to it. they handle heat a fuckload better than pvc or cpvc
[04:17:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> plus they allow a lot of slop in measurements
[04:17:42] <Sulla> I got that part right. Part I got wrong was following the labels my grandpa put on the stuff when he did it back in the 60s
[04:17:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha!
[04:17:59] <Sulla> so had the whole system reversed
[04:18:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> let the magic smoke out?
[04:18:17] <Sulla> Nope got lucky
[04:18:30] <Sulla> hot out of cold, cold out of hot, wife yelling down the stairs
[04:18:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> noice
[04:18:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> har!
[04:18:36] <Sulla> lack of pressure
[04:19:24] <Sulla> I just used the crimp fittings and PEX for everything but the last bit attaching to the water heater
[04:19:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> we're going on-demand. save space, cause 4800 or so square feet you gotta watch every inch or it gets pretty cramped
[04:19:34] <Sulla> stuff has a 120 year life, so far beyond when its my problem
[04:19:47] <Sulla> I wanted to do that, but the electric ones seemed like a pain and I won't do gas
[04:20:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> gas ain't bad but we got a contractor in for that work
[04:20:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> someone to sue if shit blows up
[04:20:17] <Sulla> Yeah
[04:20:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> plus i don't have a pipe threading rig
[04:21:10] <Sulla> Ive escaped the ened for a contractor. Redid bathroom floor (rotted through) + plumbing, kitchen same deal but also new cabinets and counters, laundry room completely, all in around 15k including the appliances
[04:21:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> sweet
[04:21:32] <Sulla> To get natural gas I would have to have three new appliances that run on gas and convince two neighbors to do the same, plus pay a contractor
[04:22:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> we're going to be pushing 70K by the time we get the last coat of paint on the drywall and trim
[04:22:24] <Sulla> Not bad
[04:22:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> and that's just downstairs
[04:22:49] <Sulla> Ouch, but will be sweet when done
[04:23:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> epic is more like it but yeah
[04:23:11] <Sulla> I need to find if i can get someone to lift my house and put in a basement instead of expanding the second story
[04:23:16] <Sulla> 70k vs 170k
[04:23:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> money ain't even the object, believe it or not. getting motherfuckers to show up to do the work is.
[04:24:06] <Sulla> Hah, thats what ive heard
[04:24:32] <Sulla> i was going to have an electrician do my new 240 for a stove but they wanted me to wait at minimum three weeks
[04:24:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> ain't like this in OK but here in TN you can't hardly beat anyone into doing any work
[04:25:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, nothin special about 240. use the right size wire and it's the same as anything else.
[04:26:00] <Sulla> I mostly didnt want to mess with the breaker. but eneded up doing it myself
[04:26:44] <Sulla> I'm never gonna sell so as long as I know I did it right and it doesn't affect my insurance payout if the whole thing collapses I don't care
[04:27:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh. lectricity don't skeer me. we used to put a finger on a buddy's ass or neck or whatever and then slap 110 with the back of our hands when the army was training me for to fix heatin and air
[04:27:51] <Sulla> Hah
[04:28:05] <Sulla> i got myself on a 120 outlet today
[04:29:10] * TheMightyBuzzard has a whooooole lot of those to put in
[04:29:52] <Sulla> had a failed outlet from the store that let the angry pixies through the bracket
[04:30:03] <Sulla> went to unscrew it with a uninsulated screwdriver
[04:30:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> like five per bedroom, several in the kitchen, three in the livingroom, maybe a dozen in the maintenance hall, one in the bathroom
[04:30:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> har!
[04:30:31] <Sulla> more the better
[04:30:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> better'n coffee to wake you up in the morning. more effective anyway.
[04:31:01] <Sulla> had the power go out to all the outlets in a room. i thought it was this one so replaced it
[04:31:05] <Sulla> evidently i also have anothre issue
[04:31:20] <Sulla> need to fix it so I can power the wife's game room
[04:31:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. happy wife, uninjured husband.
[04:31:46] <Sulla> pretty much
[04:31:57] <Sulla> figured two tvs would be goo danyways as the twins get older. no fighting over console
[04:32:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup
[04:32:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> and headphones
[04:34:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> anywho, bedtime. see yall tomorrow.
[04:34:40] <Sulla> have a good one
[05:16:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Real Reason We’re Seeing More Wildlife During the Pandemic - https://sylnt.us - squirrel!
[06:31:07] <FatPhil> Don't think too deeply, I'd like a brain-stem response: you can have food from anywhere in the world, no need to worry about price, what country does this food come from?
[06:35:13] <janrinok> ~gday FatPhil
[06:35:14] * exec genuinely combines a set of hot dogs with FatPhil
[06:38:39] <janrinok> FatPhil, in answer to your question - Thailand
[06:43:56] <FatPhil> ~gday FatPhil
[06:43:57] * exec sneakily confiscates an amulet of joe from FatPhil
[06:43:59] <FatPhil> waaat
[06:44:05] <FatPhil> ~gday janrinok
[06:44:07] * exec redundantly passes a barrel of santorum to janrinok
[06:45:48] <janrinok> which country would you choose?
[06:46:13] <FatPhil> I'm drawn between the middle-east and india.
[07:07:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Cloudflare Dumps Google's reCAPTCHA, Moves to hCaptcha as Free Ride Ends - https://sylnt.us - automated-turing-test
[07:43:32] <GrandFireWizard> Germany
[07:58:58] <FatPhil> Trump: "I've flattened the debt curve!"; Advisor: "No, Mr. President, you're holding the chart sideways".
[08:56:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Bugs That Let Sites Hijack Mac and iPhone Cameras Fetch $75k Bounty - https://sylnt.us - I-see-you
[08:56:51] <chromas> iJack
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[10:13:46] <FatPhil> ~weather Tallinn
[10:13:47] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[10:13:52] <FatPhil> bots--
[10:13:52] <Bender> karma - bots: -21
[10:13:59] <FatPhil> =weather Tallinn
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[10:29:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:29:49] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5169
[10:48:21] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - TV Advertising's Watershed Moment: It is Finally Becoming More Like Digital - https://sylnt.us - taking-advertisers-out-behind-the-watershed
[11:12:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, exec's weather function will never be fixed because his code's unmaintained
[11:13:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather tallinn, estonia
[11:13:05] <MrPlow> Pärnu mnt 67a, 10131 Tallinn, Estonia - Today: "Clear throughout the day." 43/32F, Humidity: 73%, Precip: 17%, Wind ~12mph. Sat: "Clear throughout the day." 42/34F, Humidity: 71%, Precip: 14%, Wind ~12mph. Sun: "Light rain until evening." 45/39F, Humidity: 83%, Precip: 86%, Wind ~15mph.
[11:13:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:13:38] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5170
[11:13:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> #weather
[11:13:48] <MrPlow> 1576 East Main St, Humboldt, TN 38343, USA - Today: "Clear throughout the day." 56/36F, Humidity: 50%, Precip: 2%, Wind ~7mph. Sat: "Light rain overnight." 69/54F, Humidity: 60%, Precip: 24%, Wind ~7mph. Sun: "Heavy rain throughout the day." 67/43F, Humidity: 88%, Precip: 99%, Wind ~12mph.
[11:14:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn, kinda chilly
[11:16:29] <FatPhil> planning on doing a little walk round one or two of the local streets to date openstreetmap. Did my local shopping street last weekend, and there were ~80 changes for a street with just 20 addresses!
[11:16:38] <FatPhil> s/date/update/
[11:23:02] <chromas> FatPhil doesn't like MrPlow because he doesn't do metric weather
[11:23:03] <GrandFireWizard> Everyone keeping bashing me up in irpg :(
[11:23:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> GrandFireWizard, could be worse. they could be tcshing you up in there.
[11:24:06] <GrandFireWizard> true. true
[11:24:36] * TheMightyBuzzard cmd.exe's chromas up
[11:25:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++ #smoke break
[11:25:10] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 764
[11:26:55] <chromas> You could powershell me if you had time to wait around for it to start up
[11:30:14] <GrandFireWizard> I suspect that most people who bash powershell haven't actually had to use it in anger
[11:30:56] <GrandFireWizard> I have to use it on a daily basis. The alternative is VB. or DOS. You really to wonder..
[11:34:09] <FatPhil> n.p. Iron Maiden Powershell
[11:34:18] <chromas> Nah, I powershell bash
[11:38:46] <FatPhil> man, why couldn't we have landed a lander on this puppy: Then it could hitchhike to the stars using no fuel at all.
[11:38:49] <FatPhil> https://en.wikipedia.org
[11:38:50] <systemd> ^ 03File:Animation of 2020 CD3's orbit around Earth.gif - Wikipedia
[11:40:00] <chromas> What causes the sharp turn at the beginning?
[11:41:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, the electric thumb isn't for sale here yet
[11:45:25] <chromas> Weird. All my thumb are digital.
[11:46:51] <FatPhil> presumably a very close encounter with the moon started the temporary capture
[11:47:40] <FatPhil> or scientists desperate for funding just bullshitting, who knows!
[11:53:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> ugh. i need more coffee before i start coding but my stomach's in full on rebellion at the thought of any more coffee
[11:54:34] <chromas> Inject it
[12:03:16] <FatPhil> anal ingestion
[12:21:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> screw it, i'll monkey with it this afternoon after a nap
[12:23:51] <cmn32480> exec's code is not only unmaintained.. it is unmaintainable.
[12:24:25] <cmn32480> at least by this nimnob
[12:25:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> have you tried getting drunk and coding upside down? i mean, it was written by crutchy and he's an aussie, so that's how it was created
[12:25:51] <cmn32480> ican't even spell Pee Ach Pee
[12:26:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> cmn32480, s/P.*//
[12:36:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Find Another Hole in the Ozone Layer, and This One’s Over the Arctic - https://sylnt.us - there's-a-hole-in-the-ozone-dear-Liza
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[12:53:20] <FatPhil> grrr, bloody foodbank website don't work, it's almost as if they don't want donations. Even the info page didn't have enough info to simply make a direct deposit.
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[14:27:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Question Cosmological Isotropy - https://sylnt.us - uneven-is-odd
[14:41:02] <SoyGuest11676> cmn32480 I think it's spelled Pee Haitch Pee
[15:49:19] <Ingar> Pay HAAAA Pay (in Dutch)
[16:49:26] <chromas> FatPhil: Make your direct deposit to my account and I'll take care of it wink
[16:49:38] <chromas> Did I Just say that out loud?
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[16:54:11] <Sulla> FatPhil, food question indicating what you are currently craving?
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[17:40:28] <FatPhil> Sulla: nope, I just saw someone assert that everyone would think of one particular country, and I laughed my tits off at how wrong I thought he was. But I felt the need to check...
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[18:14:12] <FatPhil> damn, I need some mindless movie entertainment, I just watched a documentary that was so boring it annoyed me so much I couldn't even sleep through it.
[18:27:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - University Libraries Offer Online "Lending" of Scanned In-Copyright Books - https://sylnt.us - trying-book-times
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[20:18:02] <chromas> https://wccftech.com
[20:18:02] <systemd> ^ 03No New Emoji in 2021 as Pandemic Is Also Delaying Emoji 14.0
[20:18:05] <chromas> Finally some good news!
[20:20:31] <FatPhil> But I need smiling face in a facemask, frowning face in a facemask, vomitting face in a facemask, crying face in a facemask, ...
[20:21:10] <carny> FatPhil: just create 7000 new codes and point them all at the same facemask graphic ;]
[20:21:21] <chromas> This is where you use combiners
[20:21:54] <chromas> Just one facemask+whatever object you want to wear it+pattern and color indicators
[20:23:34] <chromas> =submit http://feedproxy.google.com
[20:23:35] <systemd> Submitting "Pirate Bay No Longer Uses Cloudflare, Visitors Sent to 'Black Hole' * TorrentFreak"...( 1 modified urls; https://torrentfreak.com )
[20:23:36] <FatPhil> but facemasks come in 20 different colours, i need them all!
[20:23:57] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Pirate Bay No Longer Uses Cloudflare, Visitors Sent to 'Black Hole' * TorrentFreak" (17 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[20:24:31] <AndyTheAbsurd> so you put a color code on the face mask *and* a color code on the face; this is exactly what combiners are for!
[20:24:48] <AndyTheAbsurd> ...okay actually that one may require an update to the Unicode standard, but I haven't actually looked at it.
[20:26:08] <FatPhil> but I need aubergine with a facemask, and sushi roll with a facemask!
[20:26:46] <AndyTheAbsurd> an aubergine with a white face mask and a sushi roll with a purple one?
[20:31:58] <Bytram> https://twitter.com
[20:32:00] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter ( https://mobile.twitter.com )
[20:32:31] <Bytram> ^^^ "HAPPY GOOD FRIDAY TO ALL!" ( Can you say "confused on the concept"?)
[20:32:55] <Bytram> =g date of passover 2020
[20:32:56] <systemd> https://www.chabad.org - When Is Passover in 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024 and 2025 ...
[20:33:27] <chromas> If it's not happy then why are they celebrating it?
[20:34:20] <Bytram> I dunno, ask them?
[20:35:11] <boru> We were having lots of fun on Éostre, so they came up with it to make brainwashing easier.
[20:37:26] <boru> Like most of the Abrahamic religious holidays.
[20:42:16] <Bytram> =g Éostre
[20:42:17] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Ēostre - Wikipedia
[20:47:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Deep-Sea Rocks on Earth Spark New Hope for Finding Life on Mars - https://sylnt.us - fallen-through-the-cracks
[20:52:27] <boru> That wikipedia article is woefully omissive.
[21:08:47] <Bytram> ruh roh.
[21:09:24] <Bytram> I booted up a laptop running Ubuntu after struggling for a while to remember the password
[21:11:54] <Bytram> went to change it, but wasn't having much luck, so I tried "passwd -d martyb"
[21:12:02] <Bytram> got permission denied.
[21:12:05] <Bytram> okaaay
[21:12:50] <Bytram> then I tried "sudo passwd -d martyb" and entered my password
[21:13:17] <Bytram> say message "passwd: password expiry information changed."
[21:14:18] <Bytram> according to "password --help" the option "-d delete the password for the named account"
[21:16:17] <Bytram> but now things seem... "flakey"
[21:17:23] <FatPhil> always have the root password 'rootmenow', so you can always get in in an emergency
[21:17:33] <FatPhil> top tip
[21:17:52] <Bytram> NOW you tell me!
[21:26:45] <NCommander> I never set a root password
[21:26:46] <NCommander> but thats just me
[21:27:04] <NCommander> Bytram, are you locked out entirely or?
[21:27:18] <Bytram> whenever I try to do anything requiring sudo, it rejects both my old password as well as entering no password at all.
[21:28:35] <Bytram> I'm *guessing* that sudo is working from stale info, but if I am incorrect, and rebot, I fear I may be unable to log back into it
[21:30:45] <chromas> Do you still have the installation media?
[21:30:59] <Bytram> prolly
[21:31:08] <halibut> @Bytram: Does just ``passwd'' work to set a new password?
[21:31:09] <chromas> Boot up, chroot in, set password
[21:31:18] <Bytram> this is "Duey"
[21:32:19] <Bytram> IOW, I've downloaded a bunch of things onto it and now have Mate on it
[21:32:39] <Bytram> I would prefer to not have to go rebuild things from scratch, again.
[21:32:54] <chromas> Yeah, just boot up your installer disc and get a terminal, chroot in and you can reset your password
[21:33:43] <Bytram> I appreciate the help!
[21:33:55] <Bytram> So, TLI5, if you would?
[21:34:07] <Bytram> shutdown (that I can do!)
[21:34:19] <Bytram> put in boot CD, power up
[21:34:36] <Bytram> wait a lot
[21:35:03] <Bytram> and at this point I cannot envision what I would be looking at on my screen.
[21:35:45] <chromas> If you're already logged in you can just do passwd again right?
[21:35:57] <Bytram> I can try
[21:36:04] <chromas> You don't need to sudo
[21:36:23] <Bytram> okay
[21:37:31] <Bytram> I'm at a fresh terminal in Mate on Ubuntu 18.04.1
[21:38:13] <Bytram> So what command would I issue to set my password? My username is "martyb" and I want to set it to "Hunter2"
[21:38:26] <chromas> passwd
[21:38:35] <chromas> You don't have to specify username when it's your own
[21:38:36] <Bytram> no arguments?
[21:39:05] <chromas> Normally then you put in your old password, then the new one twice, but you deleted it so you should just need to type the new one twice
[21:39:10] <Bytram> looks like it will not let me set an empty passwd
[21:39:38] <chromas> You already deleted your password right? With the -d
[21:39:42] <Bytram> passwd update successfully.
[21:39:48] <Bytram> yess, I did
[21:39:56] <Bytram> chromas++
[21:39:56] <Bender> karma - chromas: 281
[21:41:11] <Bytram> thank you!
[21:42:55] <chromas> You're welcome
[21:42:59] * chromas rolls in his karmas
[21:43:44] <Bytram> hmmm
[21:46:33] <Bytram> "shutdown --halt" is that the same as "hibernate" (As opposed to "power off" and "suspend")
[21:48:27] <Bytram> looks like it!
[21:48:31] <chromas> I always skipped the parameters on that because --halt would just get the computer stuck
[21:49:26] <Bytram> the WiFi is shutdown
[21:49:32] <FatPhil> https://babylonbee.com
[21:49:33] <systemd> ^ 03Researchers Delay Coronavirus Vaccine Until They Figure Out How To Make It Cause Autism
[21:51:06] <Bytram> chromas: yep, seems to be locked up.
[21:51:53] <Bytram> I'll take a break and give it a few minutes.
[21:51:57] <Bytram> afk
[21:52:33] <chromas> You can run systemctl suspend or systemctl hibernate
[22:03:02] <Bytram> Good to know! Thanks!
[22:03:16] <Bytram> for now, it will have to be the power button
[22:03:37] <chromas> You can also use the menu in mate
[22:03:48] <Bytram> ty
[22:04:05] <Bytram> phone call. back in an hour os so
[22:04:11] <Bytram> phone call. back in an hour or so
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