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[00:28:27] <Bytram> #weather tallinn
[00:28:28] <MrPlow> Pärnu mnt 67a, 10131 Tallinn, Estonia - Today: "Possible light snow (< 1 in.) in the morning and afternoon." 37/32F, Humidity: 83%, Precip: 85%, Wind ~21mph. Sat: "Clear throughout the day." 38/32F, Humidity: 68%, Precip: 19%, Wind ~15mph. Sun: "Clear throughout the day." 45/38F, Humidity: 69%, Precip: 19%, Wind ~14mph.
[00:28:36] <Bytram> FatPhil: ^^^
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[03:07:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Boeing 787s Must be Rebooted Every 51 Days to Avoid Misleading Pilot Data - https://sylnt.us - blue-scream-of-death
[03:11:26] <AzumaHazuki> "misleading?"
[03:13:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> ain't that mizleading nowadays?
[03:17:10] <AzumaHazuki> ...no?
[03:17:26] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: Would you prefer misterleading?
[03:17:32] <Bytram> ;)
[03:18:06] <AzumaHazuki> i'd prefer a lot of people fucking up this pandemic response to spontaneously combust. from the feet up.
[03:18:37] <AzumaHazuki> and am beginning to wonder if i caught it. i'm too tired for having had 8 hours of sleep and sufficient food
[03:19:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, you're young enough it prolly won't be anything serious if you did. keep an eye on it anyhow though.
[03:20:18] <AzumaHazuki> this thing has killed people younger than me
[03:20:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes but odds-wise it's very unlikely
[03:20:53] <AzumaHazuki> worse, though, is that i don't really have any fixed preference for life or death. i'm still going to act like i do, but have to wonder if that's a factor
[03:21:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> probably but not a major one unless you were especially vulnerable to it
[03:22:09] <AzumaHazuki> oh well. what happens happens
[03:22:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup. dwelling on it won't make it any better and might very well make it worse, so don't.
[03:23:00] <Bytram> on the other hand, what doesn't happen... doesn't happen, either!
[03:23:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> unless you're a quantum physicist
[03:24:50] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: That said, this time of year tends to wear on ya up north. Rain, clouds, pollen getting over everything (including sinuses). It takes its toll on people even without a pandemic. Do take as best care as you can of yourself! Food and sleep are a huge part of that, but I'm not telling you anything you don't already know.
[03:25:15] <AzumaHazuki> more sunlight helps.
[03:26:28] <Bytram> Opportunistic -- Eat, sleep, hydrate, vitamins. All go a long ways towards helping your body to be in the best shape possible under the circumstances to survive any viral onslaught... even the common cold!
[03:26:35] <Bytram> sunlight++
[03:26:35] <Bender> karma - sunlight: 1
[03:26:40] <Bytram> sunlight++
[03:26:40] <Bender> karma - sunlight: 2
[03:26:41] <Bytram> sunlight++
[03:26:41] <Bender> karma - sunlight: 3
[03:26:41] <Bytram> sunlight++
[03:26:41] <Bender> karma - sunlight: 4
[03:27:01] * Bytram is doing what little he can from far away to lend a hand.
[03:28:07] <AzumaHazuki> yup. i need more protein and less carbs though. i'm stocked for 2 months on mac and cheese and canned beans, so time to get tuna and stuff
[03:28:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> beans have plenty of protein. lots of carbs too though.
[03:28:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> bacon. can't go wrong with bacon.
[03:29:01] <Bytram> nod nod, but don't beans have protein? (Granted, there are a gazillion different kinds of protein -- not all are created equal)
[03:29:23] <Bytram> beans also have fiber and farts
[03:29:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> i have it on good authority that they're also good for the heart
[03:29:53] <AzumaHazuki> they do help somewhat, yes
[03:30:01] <Bytram> A hearty recommendation if I ever saw one!
[03:30:08] <AzumaHazuki> i love beans almost as much as Brak. but no one else on the bus does sooooo
[03:30:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> so you get a good laugh too?
[03:30:24] <Bytram> all the easier to get yourself a seat!
[03:30:46] <AzumaHazuki> the buses run on compressed natural gas, they say...
[03:30:48] <Bytram> gives full meaning to the term "butt trumpet"
[03:31:13] <Bytram> =g beans, beans, the musical fruit
[03:31:13] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Beans, Beans, the Musical Fruit - Wikipedia
[03:31:21] <Bytram> See! =)
[03:33:07] <AzumaHazuki> there's actually an article on this
[03:33:16] <Bytram> yep!
[03:33:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> pretty sure rule #34 can be extended to farts as well
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[03:34:07] <Bytram> =g rule 34
[03:34:08] <systemd> https://rule34.xxx - Rule 34, if it exist there is porn of it.
[03:34:29] <AzumaHazuki> i don't even want to know
[03:34:50] <AzumaHazuki> turns out i'm as vanilla as a freezer full of haagen-dasz
[03:34:57] <Bytram> That must have been some kind of a wise crack, eh?
[03:35:04] <Bytram> chocolate++
[03:35:04] <Bender> karma - chocolate: 17
[03:35:14] <AzumaHazuki> sadtrombone.aiff
[03:35:41] <Bytram> back to musical fruit, I see!
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[08:18:41] <FatPhil> #weather Tallinn
[08:18:42] <MrPlow> Pärnu mnt 67a, 10131 Tallinn, Estonia - Today: "Light snow (< 1 in.) in the morning and afternoon." 36/32F, Humidity: 84%, Precip: 81%, Wind ~22mph. Sat: "Clear throughout the day." 40/31F, Humidity: 66%, Precip: 16%, Wind ~15mph. Sun: "Foggy overnight." 43/38F, Humidity: 64%, Precip: 8%, Wind ~12mph.
[08:19:32] <FatPhil> yup, looks like that +3C wet snow that won't settle. good time to break a neck and get hospitalised, I guess.
[08:24:54] <janrinok> ~gday everyone!
[08:24:55] * exec fanatically runs the Installshield Wizard to set up a broken promise of paprika for everyone!
[08:31:24] <FatPhil> ~gday janrinok
[08:31:26] * exec angrily pairs a cold can of humility with janrinok
[08:35:07] <janrinok> ~gday FatPhil
[08:35:08] * exec deliciously yeets an undersized chest of customer service jokes past FatPhil
[08:36:03] <janrinok> is life getting boring 'commuting' between your appartment and the bar/restaurant - although I do envy you even that little luxury
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[08:51:49] <FatPhil> we're pretty much limited to 3 places now, one a pub which does quite frequent curries, and pretty good noodles too, and a restaurant that does good texmex, and more remote an argentinian restaurant that does excellent meats too.
[08:52:37] <FatPhil> But that covers so many bases there's no chance of getting bored yet. And the quality has been even higher recently, as they're making the lunch specials in smaller quantities.
[08:53:40] <FatPhil> i should probably do a shop for some more staple foods, as the probability of places closing or law enforcing that are far from zero.
[08:54:49] <FatPhil> we've had a little blip in numbers reacently (doubled our deaths yesterday!), but testing also increased, so some of the scare is an artefact of measurement, not an intrinsic change in the spread.
[08:56:02] <FatPhil> I'm getting some stick from a couple of friends who are happy to turn into total hermits, just one food shop a week, but I reckon I'm staying 99% safe.
[08:56:24] <FatPhil> I feel more at risk doing my "essential" trips than my discressionary ones.
[08:58:43] <FatPhil> I've even quarantined the newly-arrived boxes of mail order beer for 4 days before I dive in - how much self control do you think that took!?
[08:59:46] <boru> Going to the pub regularly is not 99% safe.
[09:00:08] <boru> Or restaurants.
[09:00:36] <boru> Seriously, take a note from other countries. There's a reason those places are closed.
[09:07:15] <FatPhil> I'm certainly 100x safer than I would doing my normal every-day 2019 behaviour.
[09:10:01] <boru> That may be the case, but I still think you're not doing enough. It's not just about responsibility to yourself, but to others, also.
[09:10:20] <FatPhil> What others?
[09:10:31] <FatPhil> It's fucking /I am Legend/ out there.
[09:10:45] <boru> You're going to pubs and restaurants, no?
[09:10:55] <boru> Are they autonomous?
[09:11:02] <boru> Operated by robots?
[09:11:07] <FatPhil> One chef, one serving staff.
[09:11:12] <boru> Those others.
[09:12:10] <boru> It may not be bad there yet, but take a note from here, or other countries where it got bad; people clucked their tongues and went about their daily lives because "there is only a few hundred cases". Over the course of days, that went to thousands, and then tens of thousands.
[09:12:35] <FatPhil> I am not going about my daily life. What bit of 100x did you not understand?
[09:12:57] <boru> Did I say that was the case?
[09:13:57] <boru> I am merely trying to assert my opinion that going to pubs, cafes or restaurants is not a good idea right now. That's all.
[09:15:07] <FatPhil> do you think ordering the food to be delivered would be more or less risky?
[09:15:46] <boru> Less.
[09:18:06] <FatPhil> strange, as you've gone from a chef + serving staff + you scenario to a chef + serving staff + delivery + you scenario.
[09:18:11] <FatPhil> more people.
[09:18:49] <boru> If you are sick, you won't get any of those people sick by staying at home.
[09:18:59] <boru> As I said, it's not just _you_ to think about.
[09:19:13] <boru> That's the whole point of closing these places.
[09:19:23] <FatPhil> have you factored the probability that I'm sick into this risk analysis?
[09:19:43] <boru> The governments of several European countries have.
[09:20:08] <boru> Which is why these places have been closed for all but deliveries.
[09:20:11] <FatPhil> I;ll not in both cases that in the restaurant case I interact with one person who interacts with a few people. In the delivery case, I interact with one person who interacts with *loads* of people.
[09:20:22] * boru sighs.
[09:20:30] <boru> I give up. Do as you please.
[09:20:35] <FatPhil> care to re-evaluate your more/less answer with those facts now at hand?
[09:20:50] <boru> No, have at it. You're right.
[09:20:57] <boru> Everyone else is wrong.
[09:21:20] <FatPhil> holy jesus - governments have proved themselves to be *utterly terrible* at evaluating things.
[09:21:45] <FatPhil> only WHO has been worse than governments
[09:22:34] <FatPhil> I was building epidemiological simulations back in the early 90s. I have seen nothing that has surprised me at all in the last 3 months.
[09:22:40] <FatPhil> ALmost all of it because of bad advice.
[09:24:12] <FatPhil> https://www.youtube.com
[09:24:13] <systemd> ^ 03Simulating an epidemic
[09:25:03] <FatPhil> carny: were we not both saying, back in *january*, that governments and people need to do more, or things would go south rapidly
[10:17:39] <Ingar> https://www.youtube.com ( Are We Ready for the Next Pandemic? (2018) ) that was an itnersting watch
[10:17:40] <systemd> ^ 03Are We Ready for the Next Pandemic? - with Peter Piot
[10:23:15] <FatPhil> I watched that when it was first received. Pretty good RI lecture (most are, but occasionally they fuck up royally).
[10:23:44] <FatPhil> received? what were my fingers thinking? probably meant "broadcast".
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[11:03:53] <Bytram> FatPhil: "RI lecture" ??
[11:04:23] <Bytram> coffee++
[11:04:23] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5163
[11:04:28] <Bytram> legcramps--
[11:04:28] <Bender> karma - legcramps: -15
[11:11:20] <FatPhil> https://www.rigb.org Ingar's link
[11:11:22] <systemd> ^ 03Home | The Royal Institution: Science Lives Here
[11:15:59] <Bytram> Grrr.
[11:21:35] <Bytram> Pale Moon seems to keep forgetting the favicon in tabs after doing: File / Work Offline, hibernate PC, resume PC. Sometimes all of them are gone, sometimes just a few. I *could* go through and reload all the tabs (I have 74 tabs open atm!). But, that takes time (slow connection with data cap) and I would lose state information in the page (like loading our Hall of fame page, I like to keep two copies open in adjacent tabs. One with
[11:21:35] <Bytram> Prior day's values and the next with current day's values)
[11:22:46] <Bytram> Does anyone know if there is a way to, maybe using XUL (no idea if that's it -- something I've seen talked about) could go through all my tabs and refresh all favicons?
[11:24:04] <Bytram> Ideally, it would be loaded as an addon, and have a way to activate readily from keyboard or by clicking an icon in toolbar. Is this even possible?
[11:25:30] <Bytram> FWIW I am using Pale Moon v28.9.02 32-bit on Windows.
[11:25:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:25:46] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5164
[11:26:44] <Bytram> I am starting to suspect that it might have something to do with noscript and temporarily allowing some scripts in a tab, then later Revoke temporary permissions?
[11:27:31] <Bytram> That said, is it better to (1) close tabs and then revoke temporary permissions or (2) revoke temporary permissions, and then close the tabs in question?
[11:27:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> no idea, Bytram. i use Lull the Tabs, so my favicons stay put on unloaded tabs until i look at them.
[11:27:53] * Bytram is thinking use-after-free or somesuch?
[11:28:08] <Bytram> =g lull the tabs
[11:28:08] <systemd> https://addons.palemoon.org - Lull The Tabs - Pale Moon - Add-ons
[11:29:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> saves a bunch on ram too
[11:29:36] <Bytram> NB: I also make extensive use of "Tab Mix Plus (v0.5.8.1)"
[11:32:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno how many tabs i have open. somewhere north of 300
[11:32:40] <Bytram> only 65 more to have one-per-day for a whole year!
[11:34:50] <FatPhil> lull the tabs works well for me, i have ~100 open at any one time.
[11:35:04] <Bytram> One thing that is *great* about Tab Mix Plus is that it lets me do things like "undo close tab" and I can configure how many closed tabs I want it to remember (curently set to 20)
[11:35:13] <FatPhil> Ingar: have you also seen https://www.youtube.com
[11:35:14] <systemd> ^ 03Larry Brilliant: TED Prize wish: Help stop the next pandemic
[11:36:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, that's built in to PM. ctrl-shift-t
[11:37:02] <Ingar> FatPhil: I haven't , looks interesting
[11:37:30] <Bytram> Doesn't that only undo the *last* closed tab? I can bring up a list of my 20 most-recently-closed tabs and select which one I want to restore.
[11:40:31] <FatPhil> 'History' menu contains your recently closed tabs to select from
[11:41:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> ^^
[11:46:01] <Bytram> yes, but doesn't that mean bringing up a whole new tab and navigating *that*? Here, I can just right-click anywhere on the browser viewport, select the "closed tabs list" pull-right menu, and then just click on the one I want to restore. Also, since I have it set for 20 tab's worth, at the end of the day, it does NOT give me ALL of the 100+ tabs I had opened, and if it is early in the day, I see today's AND yesterday's closed tabs
[11:46:01] <Bytram> listed, too!
[11:47:07] <Bytram> =g f8764cde80d0ef806f3415d2d336787827f02fe43d53200267d2b03baa901a83
[11:47:08] <systemd> [0 results]
[11:47:28] <Bytram> #g f8764cde80d0ef806f3415d2d336787827f02fe43d53200267d2b03baa901a83
[11:47:28] <MrPlow> sorry, there were no results for your query
[11:47:34] <Bytram> #g 3aa3fd23f13f176692a42a5be1fb3028
[11:47:34] <MrPlow> sorry, there were no results for your query
[11:47:36] <AndyTheAbsurd> I think it just re-opens the closed tab wherever it was; no need to open a new tab to use it.
[11:47:39] <Bytram> =g 3aa3fd23f13f176692a42a5be1fb3028
[11:47:39] <systemd> [0 results]
[11:48:01] <AndyTheAbsurd> I mean...it's built in. If you've got the menus visible, you can just try it.
[11:48:27] <FatPhil> Ingar: there are some extra follow-up details to that Brilliant story here: https://www.youtube.com
[11:48:28] <systemd> ^ 03Coronavirus: Lessons From Past Epidemics
[11:48:35] <AndyTheAbsurd> I think it's limited to 10 closed tabs, though that's probably controlled somwehre in about:config.
[11:48:53] <Bytram> Yes, but I now have the option of using *both* those techniques! Closed Tab List *and* History are BOTH available to me, now.
[11:49:40] <Bytram> =g 620d9456e7022b1edf1fcfd1d2dc5b8f120c3bf5
[11:49:40] <systemd> [0 results]
[11:50:07] <Bytram> hmm, cannot seem to find any hashes to confirm my download of Lull The Tabs
[11:53:01] <Bytram> biab, afk
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[13:10:36] <janrinok> =cite https://www.nature.com
[13:10:39] <systemd> <p><b>Journal Reference</b><br/> Nature - Not Found, <cite></cite> (DOI: <a href="https://doi.org/"></a>)</p>
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[14:56:25] <soybull> Alright - Wife isn't the silly screamy type of bubblehead - but I had to run when she screamed
[14:56:38] <soybull> she opened her clothes dryer to put a load in
[14:56:55] <soybull> and out flew a moderately large frog.
[14:57:13] <soybull> It's anybody's guess how the hell a frog crawled into the dryer
[14:58:04] <soybull> No surprise, really, to find a frog on a window, in the bathroom, or even the kitchen, but inside a dryer?
[14:58:12] <soybull> Beats hell out of me!
[15:20:37] <chromas> Did he come in through the vent and push the lint trap out?
[15:21:29] <chromas> Also, better go check your vent. It could have a wad of lint propping the little door open
[15:28:37] <soybull> Vent looks okay, chromas - as for crawling up the lint vent, little dude had a pretty good jump just to get into it.
[15:49:04] <FatPhil> Tell her to stop putting frogspawn in the drier, simple!
[15:49:29] <FatPhil> https://nationalpost.com
[15:49:33] <systemd> ^ 03COVID-19: Mexico stops brewing Corona beer, deemed non-essential during coronavirus crisis
[15:54:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> soybull, you should start keeping a bucket of frogs out in the shed and putting a new one in whenever she does laundry.
[15:57:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Remains of 90 Million-Year-Old Rainforest Discovered Under Antarctic Ice - https://sylnt.us - couldn't-see-the-wood-for-the-trees^W-ice
[16:00:51] <FatPhil> TheMightyBuzzard++ I approve of this idea!
[16:00:51] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 376
[16:03:56] <FatPhil> Have you guys worked out your kalsarikännit regime yet?
[16:05:43] <chromas> No, I haven't Finnished it
[16:06:28] <FatPhil> Apparently our health ministry is predicting a peak by the end of next week. They obviously have more data than I do, but I think that's wishful thinking.
[16:11:03] <FatPhil> I notice other countries have also been making similar predictions, and I trust them even less than I trust .ee.
[16:12:40] <Ingar> we will know when the p[eak was once we passed it
[16:14:11] <chromas> What if there are two peaks?
[16:15:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, you won't know when the peak is until the entire outbreak is a couple years past with no further outbreaks.
[16:15:34] <Ingar> chromas: the we will know we had second peak once we passed it
[16:15:50] <Ingar> this just reminds me of all them pointless peakoil peak-when discussions
[16:16:13] <Ingar> and than the financial system crashes flattening the curve
[16:16:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> zactly. speaking with authority on shit you don't know is a good way to look pretty stupid.
[16:16:37] <chromas> The could be right about the peak next week, but then have another one for FatPhil later on
[16:16:46] <Ingar> it doesnt even have anything to do with authority
[16:16:52] <Ingar> it's a _prediction_
[16:17:02] <Ingar> afaik time travel and the crystal ball have not been invented yet
[16:17:20] <Ingar> (ofc there are good and bad predictions)
[16:17:52] <Ingar> I bet on a scorching hot sumemr though
[16:17:57] <Ingar> *summer
[16:17:57] <Bytram> chromas: two peaks?
[16:17:59] * TheMightyBuzzard predicts he shall take a nap sometime in the next 20 minutes
[16:18:04] <Bytram> =g twin peaks
[16:18:05] <systemd> https://twinpeaksrestaurant.com - Twin Peaks Sports Bar & Restaurant - Eats. Drinks. Scenic Views.
[16:18:17] <Ingar> TheMightyBuzzard: your wisdom is endless
[16:18:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> #g dolly parton
[16:18:20] <MrPlow> https://dollyparton.com - "Feb 10, 2017 ... Dolly Parton official source for latest news, tour schedule info and history including business, career, family, movies, music and more."
[16:18:29] <chromas> Doll's Twin Peaks
[16:18:47] <chromas> s/something/y et cetera/
[16:19:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> she's reading bedtime stories on facebutt this week if you've got kids or just find her voice as sexy as i do.
[16:20:08] <chromas> Kids? Is this part of thr Tits for Tots program?
[16:20:35] <Bytram> chromas++ Got a good belly laugh out of me for that one
[16:20:35] <Bender> karma - chromas: 278
[16:20:58] <Bytram> chromas: Ever wonder my nick here is Bytram and on the site it is martyb?
[16:22:35] <chromas> No
[16:23:26] <chromas> You said before it was because NCommander decreed no more M names although I thought that was a joke when he said it, and I thought you were already here by then
[16:24:11] <Bytram> I do not believe it was NCommander, prolly more like mrcoolbp or mattie_p
[16:24:18] <chromas> Also I like saying martyBytram because it sounds similar to monty python
[16:24:30] <Bytram> I *like* that!
[16:25:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, look, my prediction's about to come true
[16:25:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> naps++
[16:25:42] <Bender> karma - naps: 109
[16:26:11] <NCommander> >.>; when do I rule by degree?
[16:26:28] <Bytram> NCommander: s/g/c/
[16:26:29] <exec> <Bytram> <NCommander> >.>; when do I rule by decree?
[16:26:41] <Bytram> none of that of which I am aware!
[16:26:52] <NCommander> So I could I have ordered you not to have an M?
[16:27:05] <NCommander> By that standard, we'd have TheIghtyBuzzard by the rules of Grammar
[16:27:15] <Bytram> NCommander: btw, how are you? Recovered from your trek?
[16:27:21] <NCommander> Um.
[16:27:26] <NCommander> "It's complication"
[16:27:30] <NCommander> I have to bail out cause you know
[16:27:33] <NCommander> Coronavirus
[16:27:36] <chromas> Nothing wrong with ruling by degree. It seemed Fahrenheit at the time
[16:27:59] <Bytram> as I recall, it was a matter of *letter*<tab> being an issue as various "M" nicks would /join and /part
[16:28:03] <NCommander> chromas, nah, real men measure in kelvin
[16:28:23] <Bytram> isn't that what they use to make bulletproof vests?
[16:28:27] <chromas> NCommander: s/k.*/Rankine/
[16:28:29] <NCommander> thats kevlar
[16:28:29] <exec> <chromas> <NCommander> chromas, nah, real men measure in Rankine
[16:28:46] <Bytram> nod nod
[16:29:08] <Bytram> NCommander: so, back to your home base with your folks?
[16:29:46] <Bytram> rankine? Wasn't that one of the guys that produced Rudolf the Red-Nosed Reindeer?
[16:29:59] <Bytram> =g producer Rudolf the Red-Nosed Reindeer
[16:30:00] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org(TV_special) - Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer (TV special) - Wikipedia
[16:30:45] <Bytram> Heh. I was close!
[16:30:46] <Bytram> Producer(s)
[16:30:46] <Bytram> Arthur Rankin, Jr.
[16:30:46] <Bytram> Jules Bass
[16:30:46] <Bytram> (co-producer)
[16:37:04] <NCommander> In New york city ATM
[16:37:49] <Bytram> nod nod... that's a lot of driving. Glad you made it back okay!
[16:40:47] * Bytram wonders how NCommander got the bike back with him. Ship it? Rent a pickup? Full-sized car with a big trunk?
[16:44:12] <NCommander> Rented a large SUV
[16:44:27] <Bytram> comfy, I hope!
[16:45:21] * Bytram is glad to see NCommander back, but sad his trip got cut short.
[16:49:07] <NCommander> I've actually been back for close to two weeks
[16:50:08] <Bytram> Oh? Oh! Welcome back!
[17:14:47] <janrinok> ~gday NCommander !
[17:14:49] * exec problematically bitchslaps slice of VBA with NCommander
[17:14:59] * NCommander dies of infected VBA wounds
[17:15:18] <janrinok> ooops
[17:15:32] * janrinok sneaks off before anyone notices
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[18:06:36] <driveby> https://i.4pcdn.org
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[19:37:18] <cmn32480> firewall has been up 243 days... and it is starting to get squirly...
[19:37:27] <cmn32480> or maybe I don't have this box configured right
[19:38:03] <cmn32480> anybody here know anythign 'bout CentOS?
[19:43:57] <chromas> install gentoo
[19:44:01] <chromas> or opnsense
[19:44:23] <cmn32480> thatnks chromas
[19:44:28] <cmn32480> no useful
[19:44:42] <cmn32480> maunfacturere spec says RHEL or CentOS
[19:45:31] <cmn32480> it is weird.. the box is pinging out 4 or 5 times.. then losing a whole bunch (30-100) and then working 4 or 5 times
[19:47:30] <chromas> You could set up a cronjob to reboot I guess. I remember we had at least one centos for sn but nobody in charge liked it. Maybe NCommander can help
[19:47:41] * chromas volunteers the boss to help
[19:49:40] <chromas> Are you on Charter internets?
[19:54:40] <cmn32480> no... comcast
[19:54:51] <chromas> My condolences
[19:54:55] <cmn32480> it does the piong thing internalyl to my firewall...
[19:55:02] <cmn32480> so it ins't an internets thing
[19:55:25] <cmn32480> and I tested from other VM's on the same physical box.. no issues, except they run Windwos
[19:56:00] <chromas> Is the firewall running in a VM?
[19:56:14] <cmn32480> no
[19:56:16] <cmn32480> physical
[19:56:25] * cmn32480 wionders if somethign is already on that IP address
[19:56:54] <chromas> oh yeah, better check for conflicts
[19:57:18] <cmn32480> f**k
[19:57:21] <cmn32480> that's it!
[19:57:21] * chromas ingeniously repeats others' ideas to look like he knows what he's talking about
[19:57:42] * cmn32480 now has to figure out why his doc is all fubar and that IP isn't recorded.
[19:58:34] <Bytram> cmn32480: Just DDoS and wait for somebody to claim, and then you will know which box it is!
[19:59:25] <cmn32480> it is a linux box...
[19:59:47] <cmn32480> I don't ahve many of those.... so that narrows it down.
[20:00:01] <FatPhil> don't ping, flood ping, much better tool
[20:00:35] <chromas> SSH into it to get the hostname, then keep doing that until you get the other box
[20:00:47] <cmn32480> 'scuse me while I whip this out
[20:02:44] <chromas> Sure are a lot of ping tools. Which one is best, though?
[20:02:58] <cmn32480> me shurgs
[20:03:03] * cmn32480 yawns
[20:03:03] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into cmn32480's gaping mouth
[20:03:18] <FatPhil> /var/log/messages should have info about interfaces going down. Used to have a shitty RTL card that would just give up on 100, come back as 10, realise its mistake and give up again, then come back as 100.
[20:03:19] * Bytram gurgles
[20:03:59] <cmn32480> nah... is definetly an IP conflict.
[20:04:04] <FatPhil> LEDs can be the best diagnostic tool, depending on how many hops.
[20:04:18] <FatPhil> rarp the motherfucker
[20:04:19] <cmn32480> I shut off the network card at the VMWare interface and still got pings back from the IP
[20:04:19] <chromas> Maybe someone brought in a box with a static ip
[20:04:20] <Bytram> cmn32480: wget the ip address and see what it returns?
[20:04:48] <Bytram> wget http://192.168.100.1:80
[20:04:52] <FatPhil> you want the mac address to identify the interloper.
[20:04:55] <FatPhil> rarp
[20:05:21] <cmn32480> nmap to see what ports are open
[20:05:39] <Bytram> wget --mirror http://192.168.100.1:80
[20:05:53] <Bytram> put a whole lotta load on the target ;)
[20:06:16] <cmn32480> WTF... that box isn't supposed to have that IP...
[20:06:56] <FatPhil> just run ``arp'' as root
[20:07:04] <Bytram> cmn32480: I grant thee a degree in boxicology!
[20:07:34] <FatPhil> it'll tell you what receiving interface has what IP on what outgoing interface:
[20:07:36] <FatPhil> 192.168.1.247 ether 00:b3:62:e1:bb:1f C eth0
[20:08:08] <Bytram> FatPhil: Wasn't that a Heinlein book? "The World According to Arp"
[20:08:23] <cmn32480> nmap gave me everything I needed. Just having the box name is enough.
[20:08:34] <FatPhil> No, that was Gor
[20:08:48] <Bytram> now we're getting Gor-ry?
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[20:09:00] <cmn32480> since I know what box it it, the SSH server is explained.
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[20:09:08] <cmn32480> #smake cmn32480
[20:09:08] * MrPlow smakes cmn32480 upside the head with chromas
[20:09:46] <chromas> I guess I was already a tool, but now I'm finally being used.
[20:09:59] <Bytram> Wait, wasn't Gor the human-shaped reptile that Captain Kirk had to fite barehanded on some planet, wasn't it?
[20:13:42] <cmn32480> that was a Gorn
[20:15:37] <Bytram> Gorn darsh it!
[20:16:26] <chromas> Goofy's speech impediment continues to escalate.
[20:27:44] <Bytram> LOL!
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[20:32:54] <driveby> https://finance.yahoo.com
[20:32:56] <systemd> ^ 03If the Virus Hadn’t Caused the Crash, Something Else Would Have
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[21:25:22] <driveby> https://orientalreview.org
[21:25:25] <systemd> ^ 03Putin And Trump vs The New World Order: The Final Battle
[21:25:29] <driveby> The top virologist on the planet confirmed that chloroquine was being used by the Chinese with spectacular results to cure patients, then he improved his magic potion by adding a pneumonic antibacterial called azythromicin, and saved everyone of his first 1000 cases, but one.
[21:25:39] <driveby> Donald Trump immediately imposed the same treatment through a fight against his own Federal Drug Administration, bought and owned by the deep state.
[21:25:58] <driveby> This forced all medias to talk about Dr Didier Raoult’s Miracle Elixir, signing the death warrant on our confidence in all Western governments, their medical agencies, the World Health Organization, and medias that were trying to destroy the impeccable doctor’s reputation, while inventing sudden «dangerous side effects» of a nearly inoffensive drug that has been used for 60 years to treat malaria.
[21:26:16] <driveby> Not so far away in Germany, internationally praised Dr Wolfgand Wodarg noted that the engineered panic was totally useless, since this virus isn’t any different than the others that affect us every years.
[21:26:36] <driveby> This has been an amazing victory for Trump and the general population on social medias, whom exposed together the pathological lies of the official communication channels of every New World Order country.
[21:26:54] <driveby> De facto, the credibility’s of these puppet governments have vanished in the air, and from the eye of the storm, Italy will surely exit the EU right after the crisis, which will trigger a domino effect running through every EU countries and NATO members. My friends, globalism is dead and ready for cremation.
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[22:40:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://dickatyourdoor.com
[22:40:48] <systemd> ^ 03Dick At Your Door | Send A Chocolate Dick to Anyone
[22:51:15] <FatPhil> Argh!!! "social media" is already the plural of "social medium", there's no such term as "social medias".
[22:58:45] <chromas> Well "people" is plural of "person" so
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