#soylent | Logs for 2020-03-28
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[00:05:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Unstable Deep Ocean Circulation; Altered Circulation Might Have Cooled Northern NA and Europe - https://sylnt.us - buffers-work-up-to-a-point-and-then-all-hell-breaks-loose
[00:17:14] <AzumaHazuki> Public service announcement: if you get an email titles "Knock Knock" do not open it. It's a Jehovah's Witness working from home ;)
[00:21:34] <Bytram> =g testing
[00:33:07] <AzumaHazuki> https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com fecking LOL. Lady Karma is finally up in the clock tower sniping the deserving
[00:33:09] <exec> └─ 13Virginia Pastor Who Said COVID-19 Was Anti-Trump “Mass Hysteria” Dies of Virus | Bo Gardiner | Friendly Atheist | Patheos
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[00:48:59] <AzumaHazuki> Hah! Looks like Boris Johnson has it too
[01:05:18] <Soybull> When does Pelosi get it?
[01:05:25] <AzumaHazuki> not soon enough
[01:05:45] <AzumaHazuki> honestly, if every senator but Sanders died, i don't think i'd care much
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[02:02:57] <carny> https://imgur.com
[02:02:59] <systemd-notfixedd> ^ 03US gov sitting on 1.5 **MILLION** expired N95 masks; sending to *TSA*, not front-line hospitals (ノÒ益Ó)ノ︵ ┻━┻
[02:02:59] <exec> └─ 13Imgur: The magic of the Internet
[02:03:20] <carny> good example of ignorant people getting outraged over things they don't understand
[02:03:48] <carny> put an icu doctor in an expired mask and the band snaps as they are leaning over an intubated patient
[02:03:58] <carny> now you have an infected doctor
[02:05:15] <carny> repeat that 5 thousand times with those 1.5 million masks and now you have the end of your country
[02:05:46] <carny> but let's get outraged instead because that's easy
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[02:25:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Amazon Says It Unintentionally Hid Some Competitors’ Faster Delivery Options - https://sylnt.us - who-do-you-believe
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[03:35:37] <chromas> There's a lot of dummies on there, carny. I remember when they kept making posts about 'banning' net neutrality and they thought that meant there would be premium comments
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[04:45:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - School Quits Video Calls After Naked Man ‘Guessed’ the Meeting Link - https://sylnt.us - prick
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[07:07:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Two Perspectives On James Clerk Maxwell And His Equations - https://sylnt.us - summing-up
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[08:07:08] <FatPhil> fuck, now it's getting closer to home. two of my best mates, back in london, are suffering from all the symptoms :(
[08:08:26] <chromas> Time to grab some of those kegs and lock yourself down
[08:08:48] <FatPhil> They both have weight-related comorbity, shall we say. They may be "only" 50, but they're not the healthiest cookies in the knife draw.
[08:09:18] <chromas> Just /nick PhatPhil and you'll be cool
[08:09:49] <FatPhil> he's a home-brewer, so he'll be OK for his 14-days self-quarantine.
[08:10:37] <FatPhil> WHen I visit the UK they're the couple we always meet up with, sometimes stay at their place, always do a pub0crawl around a new area of london.
[08:11:15] <FatPhil> Last trip to the UK, we met up with them twice, upon arrival and just before we left. Old university mates.
[08:14:30] <janrinok> ~gday FatPhil
[08:14:31] * exec cromulently waves a 5¼" floppy disk of salsa at FatPhil
[08:14:35] <janrinok> ~gday chromas
[08:14:37] * exec allegedly requisitions a ½ cup of milksteak for chromas
[08:14:47] <FatPhil> ~gday janrinok
[08:14:48] * exec begrudgingly internalizes a low-hung galaxy of coke in janrinok
[08:15:27] <janrinok> you'll just have to drink more a lunchtimes - you are drinking for three now!
[08:16:42] <FatPhil> gonna go to a webshop and order a crate of beer for delivery to them
[08:17:29] <FatPhil> holy jeebus
[08:17:36] <FatPhil> what's happened to the internet
[08:17:55] <FatPhil> one bloody typo, and the search engine returns as its first hit "A 3 Year Transition From Male To Female In 33 Photos"
[08:18:10] <FatPhil> I was searching for "ales by mail"
[08:21:20] <chromas> =g'dae janrinok
[08:21:20] * systemd-notfixedd unknowingly launches an anvil of targeted ads toward janrinok
[08:22:13] <chromas> Funny; I was searching for "ails by male"
[08:28:12] <FatPhil> chromas++
[08:28:12] <Bender> karma - chromas: 277
[08:32:33] <chromas> Sup bros. Just lookin' for some dudes to NutFlix and chill. Bring Corona and Lyme.
[08:33:14] <chromas> s/i/e/2
[08:33:15] <exec> <chromas> Sup bros. Just lookin' for some dudes to NutFlex and chill. Bring Corona and Lyme.
[08:42:58] <janrinok> nurse has just left - I can settle down with a cup of tea now...
[08:44:03] <FatPhil> fuxtix, NY's getting hammered
[08:44:23] <FatPhil> God hates Italians everywhere!
[08:46:09] <chromas> Do people not like Italians? I thought it was just New Yorkers because their idea of pizza is a sheet of cardboard
[08:46:10] <janrinok> in France, everyone hates Parisians - and Parisians hate everyone else.
[08:50:21] <FatPhil> Ah, in Estonia we hate everyone equally, including ourselves.
[08:53:44] <janrinok> are you trying to tell me that you hate yourself as much as you hate Chinese and Italian tourists...?
[08:54:26] <janrinok> you need a shoulder to lean on, and someone to drink with
[08:58:40] <FatPhil> both g/f & I need that, that's what we have each other for!
[08:59:20] <janrinok> there, you sound better already!
[08:59:40] <FatPhil> but she's half Italian! argh!
[09:00:01] <chromas> Which half though?
[09:00:10] <FatPhil> I think her mum is NY Italian.
[09:00:11] <janrinok> so a drinking partner and a pizza maker - what else could you need?
[09:00:19] <chromas> Maybe use a hip instead of a shoulder
[09:00:25] <janrinok> lol
[09:00:39] <chromas> pizza++
[09:00:39] <Bender> karma - pizza: 49
[09:01:20] <FatPhil> I think you've decided what take-out food we'll have this weekend.
[09:01:25] <FatPhil> pizza++
[09:01:25] <Bender> karma - pizza: 50
[09:01:43] <chromas> Pizza and beer. The American Dream™
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[09:25:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SpaceX Encounters Problem Just Before Crew Dragon Parachute Test - https://sylnt.us - dizzy,-I'm-so-dizzy
[10:19:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:19:15] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5153
[10:19:23] <FatPhil> coffee++
[10:19:23] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5154
[10:19:30] <FatPhil> 'sup, buzz
[10:20:58] <FatPhil> Ahhh, empty supermarkets means food near BB dates is cheap!
[10:21:26] <chromas> Stalk up
[10:21:30] <FatPhil> bresaola for 25e/kg
[10:21:37] <FatPhil> normally 50!
[10:22:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://babylonbee.com
[10:22:12] <systemd-notfixedd> ^ 03Government Accidentally Shuts Itself Down With Ban On Non-Essential Businesses
[10:22:14] <exec> └─ 13Government Accidentally Shuts Itself Down With Ban On Non-Essential Businesses | The Babylon Bee
[10:22:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> folks here in my neck of the woods are mostly done panicking except about bung fodder
[10:23:24] <chromas> Do you have TP for your bunghole?
[10:24:09] <Ingar> just let the substance dry out so you can scrape it off more easily
[10:24:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, we always stock up like zombies is acomin so we don't have to think about it again for months
[10:25:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ingar, take the g out of angle grinder, eh?
[10:25:55] <Ingar> you can use a car polish addon set for a more fluffy experience
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[10:26:48] <Ingar> lockdown-light got extended to april 19, there's talk about may already
[10:27:49] <janrinok> It's already extended to the end of April here in France
[10:28:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm just amused that we now have concrete proof that school isn't essential but liquor stores are
[10:28:49] <chromas> Kids've been saying for years they don't need school; only youtube
[10:29:32] <janrinok> will liquor store managers being receiving accolades like movie stars or sportmen?
[10:30:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> they have been from me. grocery store clerks too.
[10:30:31] <janrinok> ... and the winner of 'Best Whisky Salesman of the Year' goes to....
[10:30:55] <Ingar> Fortunately I don't do alcohol any more
[10:30:55] * TheMightyBuzzard went grocery shopping the other day in an army pt shirt and thanked the cashier for her service
[10:31:01] <chromas> Watch the First Annual Coronies here on NBCNNBCBS
[10:31:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> true story
[10:31:35] <FatPhil> My BTFD response was to buy whisky.
[10:32:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> apparently walmart is even giving them combat pay
[10:44:12] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: "apparently walmart is even giving them combat pay" -- hadn't heard that! do you have a link by chance?
[10:45:26] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches his head and tries to figure out how to link a face to face conversation with a cashier
[10:45:55] <Bytram> bodycam?
[10:46:02] <Bytram> ;)
[10:46:13] <chromas> ftp://search.nsa.gov
[10:46:14] <systemd-notfixedd> ^ 03ERROR: The requested URL could not be retrieved
[10:46:24] <Bytram> lol
[10:46:30] <Bytram> coffee++
[10:46:31] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5155
[10:46:34] <chromas> hm, thought ftp links weren't allowed
[10:46:46] <Bytram> hmmm....
[10:46:47] * chromas waits for tmb to make it download firefox again
[10:46:57] <Bytram> ftp://ftp.swpc.noaa.gov
[10:46:57] <systemd-notfixedd> ^ 03ERROR: The requested URL could not be retrieved
[10:47:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, nah, i got tired of keeping a large downloadable file around in public_html and just put a symlink to /dev/random
[10:47:30] <Bytram> chopchop1: looks like they were allowed, but failed to respond like an http(s) scheme
[10:47:34] <chromas> The error might be because it always uses squid; not sure if squid does ftp
[10:47:50] <Bytram> =g squid process ftp
[10:47:51] <systemd-notfixedd> http://www.comfsm.fm - SQUID Frequently Asked Questions: How does Squid work?
[10:47:54] <exec> └─ 13SQUID Frequently Asked Questions: How does Squid work?
[10:49:13] <FatPhil> meanwhile in Hubai: https://mobile.twitter.com
[10:49:14] <systemd-notfixedd> ^ 03Twitter
[10:49:16] <exec> └─ 13Twitter
[10:49:45] <Bytram> chromas: "12.17 Can I make my regular FTP clients use a Squid cache?
[10:49:45] <Bytram> Nope, its not possible. Squid only accepts HTTP requests. It speaks FTP on the server-side, but not on the client-side.
[10:49:45] <Bytram> The very cool wget will download FTP URLs via Squid (and probably any other proxy cache)."
[10:50:53] <chromas> Neat. I just threw squid in the loop to reduce hits while testing the bot
[10:51:52] <chromas> So if I take it out, tmb will probably DoS my box with his /dev/random script because linux doesn't know how to say "no"
[10:52:16] <Bytram> No!
[10:52:45] <chromas> Yes. That's it. Now teach my kernel.
[10:53:01] <Bytram> Kernel Sanders?
[10:53:12] <Bytram> Mmmmm, fried chicken!
[10:53:22] <chromas> Chikety China, the chinese virus
[10:53:31] <Bytram> Deep-fried Linux?
[10:54:04] <Bytram> Then again, for your movie-watching enjoyment; Pop Linux!
[10:54:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt one week
[10:54:24] <FatPhil> had lovely rotiserie chicken for lunch. oh, that browned skin, just delicious.
[10:54:28] * TheMightyBuzzard glares at MrPlow
[10:55:18] <chromas> #ping
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[10:55:36] <Bytram> chromas: Neat! I have to remember the command!
[10:55:37] <chromas> It wasn't me; it was the hairy one
[10:55:45] <Bytram> !grab chromas
[10:55:45] <Bender> Added quote 953
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[10:56:07] <chromas> #ping
[10:56:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake MrPlow
[10:56:10] * MrPlow smakes MrPlow upside the head with dire ear
[10:56:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt one week
[10:56:15] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- Barenaked Ladies - One Week (Official Music Video)
[10:56:44] <chromas> I bet the bot was stuck and any command would've moidud him
[10:57:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> was stuck and ignoring all commands, so i killall'd him
[10:57:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt another postcard
[10:57:24] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- Barenaked Ladies - Another Postcard (Video)
[10:58:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++ #smoke break
[10:58:27] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 759
[10:58:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++ too
[10:58:35] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5156
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[11:05:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> all of you what's stuck at home, cheer up! it could be worse. i get to spend my quarantine working on the church house.
[11:06:43] <FatPhil> churches tend to be awesome buildings though
[11:07:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth. i wouldn't at all mind a month of vidya, coffee, n booze instead though.
[11:08:00] <FatPhil> support your local brewer!
[11:08:00] <chromas> Did they leave some projectors and retractable screens?
[11:08:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> screens, yes. took the projector though.
[11:09:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> they did leave a drum kit though
[11:09:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt bang the drum all day
[11:09:15] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- Bang the Drum All Day (2015 Remaster)
[11:10:29] <chromas> Drums? In church? Sacrilege!
[11:10:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> i tell yall about the roof yet?
[11:10:41] <chromas> No
[11:12:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> shingles -> tar paper -> 1" tongue and groove -> fiberglass insulation -> 3.5" tongue and groove
[11:12:54] <chromas> That seems familiar, if it's not something you just learned
[11:12:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> the 3.5" boards are like 12" wide and 32 feet long
[11:13:09] <chromas> I remember the wood was good
[11:13:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> yar
[11:13:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> some crazy shit but i can't fault it for not being sturdy
[11:13:48] <chromas> Never waste good wood —she
[11:15:17] <FatPhil> Local specialist cider shop closes tomorrow, as building owner refuses to suspend rent :(((
[11:15:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> they don't even keep back enough to pay a few months of rent?
[11:16:16] <FatPhil> It's so minority, it barely makes a profit, alas.
[11:16:24] <FatPhil> run for love, not money
[11:16:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> run it from home then
[11:17:33] <FatPhil> there would be legal roadbumps
[11:17:40] <chromas> Dial-a-cider
[11:18:02] <Bytram> break time
[11:18:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> gonna be a bunch of folks find out the hard way during this nonsense that leveraged debt may a quick way to get money you haven't yet earned but it's a house of cards risk-wise
[11:18:37] <FatPhil> WHO in january "don't worry, ain't infectious"
[11:18:49] <FatPhil> WHO in march "countries should have been acting 2 months ago"
[11:19:11] <FatPhil> Can we just shut the fucking WHO down, it's doing more harm than good.
[11:19:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, but, muh vidya addiction diagnosis!
[11:19:49] <FatPhil> My spin on the march message is "countries should have been ignoring us 2 months ago"
[11:21:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> speaking of, ima fuck off and get me an hour or so of vidya in before i gotta go do work at home #2
[11:21:25] <chromas> Yay, March Madness!
[11:24:14] <FatPhil> mad march hares
[11:25:09] <FatPhil> https://www.dailystar.co.uk
[11:25:10] <jsonxml> ^ 03Sex robot firm selling 'anti-bacterial' dolls for coronavirus self-isolation
[11:25:10] <exec> └─ 13Sex robot firm selling 'anti-bacterial' dolls for coronavirus self-isolation - Daily Star
[11:30:01] <driveby> https://www.reddit.com
[11:30:04] <jsonxml> ^ 03r/China_Flu - Went down the rabbit hole of official Chinese news sources today: situation is still dire in Wuhan right now (also Baoji, Xianxi and Zhengzhou, Henan suspiciously so). - LONG post
[11:30:05] <exec> └─ 13Went down the rabbit hole of official Chinese news sources today: situation is still dire in Wuhan right now (also Baoji, Xianxi and Zhengzhou, Henan suspiciously so). - LONG post : China_Flu
[11:36:43] <FatPhil> In other happy news, the production of urns for crematoria seems to be 20x the official number of deaths in the region.
[11:56:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A Critical Enzyme For Sperm Formation Could Be A Target For Treating Male Infertility - https://sylnt.us - sperm?-wang?-we-couldn't-make-this-up!
[12:09:54] <driveby> https://newsone.com
[12:09:54] <jsonxml> ^ 03Joe Biden’s Sexual Assault Accuser Breaks Silence With Graphic Allegations
[12:09:55] <exec> └─ 13Who Is Tara Reade? Joe Biden’s Sexual Assault Accuser Breaks Silence | NewsOne
[12:15:36] <pinchy> muh sexual advances
[13:45:48] <Soybull> https://soylentnews.org
[13:45:49] <jsonxml> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | The Almost-Free Book of Fair-Use Anti-Epstein Remix Memes
[13:45:50] <exec> └─ 13SoylentNews Comments | The Almost-Free Book of Fair-Use Anti-Epstein Remix Memes
[13:46:01] <Soybull> If that boy EVER had it, he lost it long ago
[13:46:25] <Soybull> zero comments - let us hope it stays that way
[14:16:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA Picks SpaceX for Lunar Missions - https://sylnt.us - what-about-boeing
[14:28:08] <janrinok> Soybull, is he smoking something or just off his meds?
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[15:20:32] <Soybull> janrinok - I might feel better about him, if I knew he were smoking something.
[15:22:38] <Soybull> I need to write my senator and congressman
[15:22:48] <Soybull> there should be a law that coffee cups can nevr go empty
[15:22:58] <Soybull> coffee++
[15:22:58] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5157
[15:23:17] <Soybull> empty_cup--
[15:23:17] <Bender> karma - empty_cup: -2
[15:42:48] <Bytram> =g word salad
[15:42:48] <jsonxml> https://en.wikipedia.org - Word salad - Wikipedia
[15:42:50] <exec> └─ 13Word salad - Wikipedia
[15:43:00] <Bytram> =g markov model
[15:43:01] <jsonxml> https://en.wikipedia.org - Markov model - Wikipedia
[15:43:03] <exec> └─ 13Markov model - Wikipedia
[15:43:49] <Bytram> =g markov chain
[15:43:50] <jsonxml> https://en.wikipedia.org - Markov chain - Wikipedia
[15:43:52] <exec> └─ 13Markov chain - Wikipedia
[16:38:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Plasma Bigscreen is a New Smart TV Experience Powered by Raspberry Pi 4 and KDE - https://sylnt.us - but-is-there-any-program-worth-watching
[17:09:37] <carny> https://i.imgur.com
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[18:48:57] <chromas> kde++
[18:48:57] <Bender> karma - kde: 3
[18:56:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Seven Stages of Open Software - https://sylnt.us - what-about-proprietary-closed-openness
[18:57:17] * dx3bydt3 is usinng kde right now.
[18:57:23] <dx3bydt3> kde++
[18:57:23] <Bender> karma - kde: 4
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[19:39:55] <FatPhil> kde--
[19:39:55] <Bender> karma - kde: 3
[19:46:20] <Bytram> =submit https://www.nytimes.com
[19:46:21] <exec> └─ 13Blood Plasma From Survivors Will Be Given to Coronavirus Patients - The New York Times
[19:46:22] <jsonxml> Submitting "Blood Plasma From Survivors Will Be Given to Coronavirus Patients"...
[19:46:44] <jsonxml> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Blood Plasma From Survivors Will Be Given to Coronavirus Patients" (45 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[19:46:46] <exec> └─ 13Blood Plasma From Survivors Will Be Given to Coronavirus Patients: SoylentNews Submission
[20:28:17] <FatPhil> https://asiatimes.com
[20:28:19] <jsonxml> ^ 03Why France is hiding a cheap and tested virus cure
[20:28:19] <exec> └─ 13Why France is hiding a cheap and tested virus cure - Asia Times
[20:53:47] <carny> FatPhil: i'm speechless
[20:54:59] <FatPhil> lots of conspiracy fodder there. Some real seeds, but plenty of humus for stuff to grow in too.
[20:55:43] <FatPhil> the mid-january thing really gets the noggin joggin'.
[21:02:09] <FatPhil> Estonia has informed the Council of Europe it has activated Article 15 of the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), which provides an opportunity to partly restrict freedoms, including religious freedoms and freedom of expression, to deal with the coronavirus crisis.
[21:12:09] <Bytram> FatPhil: It takes a while and then displays nothing... must be lots of javascript?
[21:12:24] <Bytram> (wrt: https://asiatimes.com)
[21:12:25] <jsonxml> ^ 03Why France is hiding a cheap and tested virus cure ( https://asiatimes.com )
[21:12:27] <exec> └─ 13Why France is hiding a cheap and tested virus cure - Asia Times
[21:12:27] <exec> └─ 13Why France is hiding a cheap and tested virus cure - Asia Times
[21:13:27] * Bytram had to allow: asiatimes.com and ampproject.org
[21:14:09] <FatPhil> Bytram: I have all JS turned off, you have to scroll down 20+% of the page before the content appears.
[21:15:25] <FatPhil> and is fine in w3m
[21:16:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Cyber Insurer Chubb Had Data Stolen in Maze Ransomware Attack - https://sylnt.us - not-the-best-advertising
[21:22:14] <Bytram> ahh, am reading it now. tx
[21:22:32] <Bytram> Interesting passage: Raoult says it’s “insulting” to ask if we can trust the Chinese on the use of chloroquine. “If this was an American disease, and the president of the United States said, ‘We need to treat patients with that,’ nobody would discuss it.”
[21:22:50] <Bytram> _says_ == https://www.youtube.com
[21:22:52] <exec> └─ 13Chloroquine : pourquoi les Chinois se tromperaient-ils ? - YouTube
[21:23:20] <Bytram> Crucially: if he had coronavirus, Raoult says he would take chloroquine. Since Raoult is rated by his peers as the number one world expert in communicable diseases, way above Dr. Anthony Fauci in the US, I would say the new reports represent Big Pharma talking.
[21:24:42] <Bytram> Ummm, "interesting"
[21:25:40] * Bytram is not familiar with French bureaucracy, so names of depts/orgs and where they fit into a hierarchy escapes me.
[21:27:13] <Bytram> It's apparent what the author is trying to suggest, but it seems a bit emotionally written, I somehow sense the quotations do not entirely support the accusations. Maybe some post hoc ergo propter hoc, tossed in as well?
[21:27:22] <Bytram> break time
[21:40:21] <carny> in other words everything in that article lacks evidence and you will dismiss it even after it is proven true over time
[21:40:49] <Bytram> "proven true over time"
[21:40:54] <carny> but if the new york times printed it you would presume that every statement had 3 sources even though not a single name was mentioned
[21:41:13] <Bytram> I said no such thing, now, or ever.
[21:41:28] <Bytram> I would kindly ask you to NOT put words in my mouth.
[21:41:48] <carny> that is the substance of every argument you've put forward against me
[21:42:23] <carny> FatPhil: thank you for bringing this to my attention
[21:42:29] <Bytram> You claim to know much about these things, but a simple matter of substantiating your claims, I have yet to see anything with a solid foundation.
[21:42:53] <carny> i will have to give serious consideration to learning how to manufacture chloroquine in significant quantities
[21:43:10] <Bytram> which one?
[21:44:37] <Bytram> carny: there quite a few members of the quinone family. Would you like a tonic water, perhaps?
[21:45:16] <Bytram> =g tonic water
[21:45:17] <jsonxml> https://en.wikipedia.org - Tonic water - Wikipedia
[21:45:19] <exec> └─ 13Tonic water - Wikipedia
[21:46:58] <Bytram> No response from carny. noted.
[21:47:49] <carny> the structure of quinine is nothing like chloroquine's
[21:48:15] <carny> it might be useful as a starting reagent but no sane doctor would try to substitute it
[21:48:30] <Bytram> I ask again, which one?
[21:48:55] <carny> quinine
[21:48:56] <Bytram> full chemical name, please.
[21:48:58] <Bytram> nope
[21:49:13] <carny> you just linked tonic water
[21:49:23] <carny> that's the active ingredient
[21:49:43] <Bytram> in tonic water, yes.
[21:50:15] <Bytram> earlier, you said "<carny> i will have to give serious consideration to learning how to manufacture chloroquine in significant quantities"
[21:50:25] <Bytram> I ask again, which one?
[21:51:14] <Bytram> I would think with your claimed knowledge, you should be able to answer immediately, if even with a link.
[21:51:19] <Bytram> this might help: https://en.wikipedia.org
[21:51:20] <jsonxml> ^ 03Hydroxyquinone - Wikipedia
[21:51:22] <exec> └─ 13Hydroxyquinone - Wikipedia
[21:52:14] <Bytram> Is what I've seen mentioned in the reports, not https://en.wikipedia.org
[21:52:15] <jsonxml> ^ 03Hydroquinone - Wikipedia
[21:52:17] <exec> └─ 13Hydroquinone - Wikipedia
[21:52:43] <Bytram> But, it is late and I am tired, so I confess I may have misremembered which is which.
[21:52:54] <Bytram> =g derek lowe quinone
[21:52:55] <jsonxml> https://blogs.sciencemag.org - Not The Sort Of Thing You'd Work With, Given a Choice | In the ...
[21:53:15] <Bytram> =g derek lowe hydroquinone
[21:53:16] <jsonxml> https://blogs.sciencemag.org - Chloroquine, Past and Present | In the Pipeline
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[21:55:18] <Bytram> carny: ^^^ yep, that's the one I remember reading -- Derek Lowe.
[21:55:58] <carny> hydroxyquinone is not chloroquine
[21:56:13] <Bytram> agreed; both are mentioned in Derek Lowe's post
[21:56:17] <carny> your attempt to catch me in some kind of chemistry gotcha is hilarious and entirely wrong
[21:57:49] <Bytram> Did you see my qualification, afterwards? that it was late and I may have misremembered ... and then I went out and proved myself wrong! Yeah, big gotcha all right!
[21:58:40] <carny> i don't have any idea what your point is so i'm going to just ignore anything further and speak directly to the person i was responding to
[21:58:52] <Bytram> and, atm, I am aching all over... barometer is dropping rapidly and these old bones are reminding of younger days' ... experiences.
[21:59:13] <Bytram> It's pretty bad when it actually hurts to type.
[21:59:26] <Bytram> gotta stop for a while. laters.
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[23:28:29] <Bytram> =submit https://blogs.sciencemag.org
[23:28:31] <jsonxml> Submitting "Known Drugs Being Tried Against the Coronavirus: Runner-Up Candidates"...
[23:28:53] <jsonxml> ✓ Sub-ccess! "03Known Drugs Being Tried Against the Coronavirus: Runner-Up Candidates" (11 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[23:28:54] <exec> └─ 13Known Drugs Being Tried Against the Coronavirus: Runner-Up Candidates: SoylentNews Submission
[23:35:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Now That Everyone's Using Zoom, Here Are Some Privacy Risks You Need to Watch Out For - https://sylnt.us - can't-hurt-to-be-more-secure
[23:51:14] <Bytram> https://amzn.to
[23:51:28] <jsonxml> ^ 03Amazon.com: The Periodic Table (Everyman's Library Contemporary Classics Series) (9780805210415): Levi, Primo, Rosenthal, Raymond: Books ( https://www.amazon.com )
[23:52:01] <Bytram> https://www.youtube.com
[23:52:03] <jsonxml> ^ 03Red Simpson - Nitro Express
[23:52:03] <exec> └─ 13Red Simpson - Nitro Express - YouTube