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[00:09:48] <Bytram> FatPhil: I must admit there was a kernel of truth to your thinking, that dept line was mine.
[00:39:10] <chromas> Bytram: s/kernel/grain/
[00:39:11] <exec> <chromas> <Bytram> FatPhil: I must admit there was a grain of truth to your thinking, that dept line was mine.
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[01:53:16] <AzumaHazuki> ugh, i'm exhausted...the buses may be shutting down next week, so that's an hour or more walk each way to work
[01:53:43] <AzumaHazuki> on top of us already being shortstaffed this virus is probably going to force one of my colleagues into an early retirement given her age and health
[01:54:57] <AzumaHazuki> aaaand it's day 3 of shark week </tmi>
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[04:43:35] <chromas> Why don't they just use _NSACLOUD?
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[07:11:44] <chromas> heh, firefox equals dumb
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[07:12:02] <chromas> "firefox --new-instance"
[07:12:05] <chromas> "Firefox is already running"
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[07:40:09] <FatPhil> ~weather
[07:40:10] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[07:40:26] <janrinok> just give him the weather everywhere - stupid bots
[07:40:37] <FatPhil> ~climate
[07:40:43] <janrinok> ~gday FatPhil
[07:40:44] * exec disturbingly cropdusts a buzzfeed listicle of perl over FatPhil
[07:40:57] <FatPhil> ~gday janrinok
[07:40:58] * exec hideously heaps a trainload of lies on janrinok
[07:41:34] <janrinok> seen many Italian or Chinese tourists recently?
[07:42:11] <FatPhil> orientals at the end of the street 2 days ago, didn't hear the language
[07:42:39] <FatPhil> in masks, and behaving sanely
[07:43:21] <FatPhil> But town has really turned into a ghosttown
[07:43:46] <FatPhil> I know the economy's fucked, but at least the environment's improved!
[07:45:11] <chromas> Now that everyone's gone, it's safe to come out
[07:45:30] <FatPhil> yeah
[07:45:54] <FatPhil> Several of the pubs we regularly go to are still open, so we still give them out custom.
[07:46:54] <FatPhil> while they're open, and there's free hand sanitiser, I'm happy to support them.
[07:48:06] <FatPhil> Trying to restrict myself to only local beers (which excludes macros majority-owned by foreign groups, obviously)
[08:07:44] <janrinok> so, you are being forced to drink the better brews - that sounds like a hardship I could also enjoy suffering under
[08:08:03] <janrinok> stay safe
[08:11:05] <FatPhil> you too - it sounds like it's closer to your doorstep than mine presently
[08:12:09] <FatPhil> we're still in "cluster cluster" mode, just
[08:47:58] <ingar> Brussels here, we've been in lockdown since this week
[08:48:05] ingar is now known as Ingar
[08:48:34] <Ingar> and the air quality indeed is a lot better than usual
[08:50:08] <Ingar> and it's so quiet outside
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[09:30:26] <FatPhil> I have experienced the business area of Brussels, and the air was rank with pollution, so a week could be a significant change.
[09:32:44] <FatPhil> Ingar: how locked down is lockdown? Are pubs and restaurants open?
[09:39:09] <Ingar> pubs and restaurants closed
[09:39:24] <Ingar> non-groceries shops closed
[09:39:48] <Ingar> and now a ban on assembly (and they fine people)
[09:40:34] <Ingar> there's talk about closing the airport, I expect that to happen soon
[09:41:51] <Ingar> but the drop in air traffic is already fairly noticvable
[09:52:02] <Ingar> the funny fact is we still didn't have a govt after last year's may elections, so this was an excellent excuse to put a non-elected minority gov in charge
[09:55:14] <FatPhil> I'm glad that the govenernent hasn't gone full lockdown here. I still eat out every day, but we are limiting our venues to just 2 or 3 favourite, so we're not mixing too many pools.
[09:56:45] <janrinok> Somebody from a house not far from me had a visit from an ambulance last night - not certain of the cause but there is lots of speculation. Those who do know for certain are not allowed to say because of privacy laws.
[09:58:26] <janrinok> I've just got back from shopping - didn't see anyone who isn't vulnerable and there is some food in the shops but nowhere near as much choice as we had last week. It is a case of buying what you can and making a meal from that rather than buying want you want to eat.
[09:58:27] <FatPhil> When I mentioned the bunnysuits and plaguewagon last week, I was in one of my 3 venues.
[09:59:42] <janrinok> I think we have disproven the claims that coronavirus is a hoax - I'm just trying to recall which senior political figure made that claim only 1 month ago....
[10:02:01] <FatPhil> I know you're not in the US, but I'd be willing to bet he was from a predictable side of the political compass: https://summit.news
[10:02:02] <systemd> ^ 03Pew Poll: 62 Per Cent of Americans Believe Media Has Exaggerated Coronavirus Risk
[10:02:15] <janrinok> We have police checks at random intervals on vehicle movement (why, where to, is it justified) and we have to carry a signed declaration stating what the purpose of the movement is. Was stopped yesterday but it was only a 30 second check. Nobody has actually said 'Papers please' yet
[10:02:46] <FatPhil> wow, that's pretty serious
[10:02:56] <janrinok> fp - yes, he certainly was, and now he is blaming the media for the pandemic
[10:03:28] <FatPhil> oh, man, you couldn't make it up
[10:05:36] <FatPhil> I reckon the mostly personal-responsibility based measures we have here will be enough to keep any nasty infection peaks at bay. But I won't put any weight on that statement until I've seen a week's more figures.
[10:06:48] <FatPhil> I've seen the scenes of the gilets jeunes all amassing in close quarters, with no attention paid to the disease, so I reckon parts of .fr will be proper screwed for quite a while no matter what the rest of the population does.
[10:07:20] <janrinok> The UK is trying to get everybody to adhere to their advice voluntarily, but it doesn't seem to be working. I know that are trying to avoid more drastic measures but I expect to see them inside a week or two.
[10:07:58] <FatPhil> UK made many mistakes all along the way, so they've made a very uncomortable bed to lie on.
[10:08:14] <janrinok> That's the 'extremist' element of the gilets jaune, the majority are normal working class who are fed up with being screwed by politicians
[10:08:22] <FatPhil> Estonia made one big fuckup, and is now paying, but also paying attention to that single huge error.
[10:08:51] <FatPhil> Do you have proportional representation?
[10:09:38] <janrinok> There were bits on yesterdays UK news when people in London were being asked why they were not staying indoors - plenty of young people saying it wouldn't affect them and they didn't understand why they should avoid mixing with others.
[10:11:03] <FatPhil> Dear Darwin, please do you work, and make it swift.
[10:11:38] <janrinok> Yes, at local levels, but not nationally. One of only 2 European countries to have not used it at state levels - https://www.electoral-reform.org.uk
[10:11:40] <systemd> ^ 03Is there proportional representation in France?
[10:11:45] <FatPhil> my 80+ dad is just outside london, hopefully in an area none of these londoners go.
[10:12:43] <FatPhil> he can tick several of the comorbidity boxes too, not just age.
[10:14:20] <FatPhil> Ugh, without PR, you don't even have an approximation to democracy. .ee's not perfect (in a 100 seat parliament, you can get enough of the vote share to be worth 3 seats, and still get 0 seats, due to an absurdly high cutoff)
[10:14:42] <janrinok> I wish him well. Those intelligent enough to see what is happening and the importance of heeding the advice seem to still be in the minority, but that might just because the media reports such stories rather than more on those who are acting sensibly
[10:16:05] <janrinok> But to be fair, morning TV is trying to address the balance but that is not something that younger people usually watch.
[10:19:13] <janrinok> I'm not sure that I agree that the UK has made 'many mistakes' - the progress of the disease is about 3 weeks behind Italy and 2 weeks behind France. The problem area now seems to be London which is well in advance of the rest of the country, forcing national measures to be taken that are only justified in a relatively small area.
[10:19:14] <FatPhil> One problem is that the people whose survival rate drops from 100% to >99.9% don't see getting it as a big thing. Which spoils it for the others.
[10:20:14] <FatPhil> Boris's herd immunity comments showed a comlete ignorance of epidemiology
[10:20:42] <janrinok> There is a daily briefing by Boris, the chief medical officer and the chief scientific officer and they are talking sense backed by science. Bringing in some measures too early just wastes resources but has little effect on the climbing curve.
[10:21:22] <FatPhil> true, but aiming for herd immunity is aiming for almost complete infection.
[10:23:09] <janrinok> Boris lets the experts do the talking and they are quizzed by the media. I'm convinced that there is logic behind what is happening. Providing Boris doesn't try talking about medicine or science he is doing OK - but he will never please everyone. No politician now can win whatever they do. There will be loss of life and the 20/20 hindsight crowd will have to blame somebody.
[10:24:41] <FatPhil> Limiting geographical spread was always a sensible idea. ANyone who flew to the toxic shitholes and brought the disease back should be held partially responsible for the deaths in their region.
[10:25:05] <janrinok> I'm not saying that Boris is the best thing that ever came along for the UK, but I don't see any other politician doing any better. That doesn't say much for the quality of our politician generally, but I wouldn't want their job at the moment
[10:26:29] <FatPhil> If they can't understand, or don't even request, a cost/risk analysis, they shouldn't be in that role. Full stop. Boris ticks that box.
[10:27:22] <janrinok> Show me anyone worldwide who has navigated this path faultlessly and I will happily move to that country. I do find it strange that Russia is only reporting a relatively small number of infected - I'm not convinced they are telling everything to WHO
[10:28:26] <FatPhil> I can show you 23 million of them.
[10:29:16] <janrinok> I think that the UK HAS done a cost/risk analysis - that is why they were trying to delay some measures being introduced so soon. People complained about not closing schools but are now realising that without keeping some schools open then we lose many NHS workers and other key roles, and a lot of children will go without their only hot meal of the day.
[10:29:18] <FatPhil> A country that didn't even get any help from the WHO, because they aren't even recognised by the UN.
[10:31:02] <janrinok> got to go and start preparing our lunch - timing is important for S as it is tied to her medication etc
[10:31:18] <janrinok> Possible speak to you later
[10:31:57] <janrinok> have a mouthful of beer for me at you lunch please
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[11:03:44] <Bytram> coffee++
[11:03:44] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5146
[11:03:56] * Bytram starts trying to catch up on backscroll
[11:09:50] <Bytram> Whew! Good read!
[11:13:29] <Bytram> Is there anybody here could do some tests for me on dev? I've made some changes to an in-memory copy of dispStory;misc;default to provide a button (1) That should be hidden on the main page (2) should be displayed when a story is opened by itself AND when clicked on a story page, skips past the Extended Copy section of a story and brings the user to the top of the comments.
[11:15:26] <Bytram> Some quick unit tests show it is working (yay!) but I've only tried it with the default (red) theme. I ran into some issues with background colors and margins, but I *think* I have addressed those... need confirmation.
[11:15:29] <FatPhil> having a passwd mailed to me...
[11:15:59] <FatPhil> I'm a vt220-er, so that should put it through its paces.
[11:16:02] <Bytram> here, you can use mine: hunter2
[11:16:08] <Bytram> great!
[11:16:21] <FatPhil> Why would you have a password that was nothing but asterisks?
[11:17:00] <AndyTheAbsurd> My password is just my pet parrot's name.
[11:17:10] <Bytram> Have you ever stopped to think, when that exchange transpired, that they had absolutely no idea of how much it would become a part of internet culture and history?
[11:17:13] <AndyTheAbsurd> Of course, her name is ,)RH0yP.AOr*oUxlA]DV'C)%+*^"?-f|%w&XG2UNAfo"=IY]eX;@6e+|lpg9V=8 and I change it every 30 days.
[11:17:56] <Bytram> my parrot's name is: PiningForTheFjords
[11:18:16] <Bytram> hasn't been too active lately. =(
[11:18:32] <AndyTheAbsurd> Norwegian Blue, is it?
[11:18:44] <Bytram> AndyTheAbsurd: Hey! I have the same combination on my luggage!
[11:18:45] <AndyTheAbsurd> Beautiful plumage on the Norwegian Blue, eh?
[11:19:07] <Bytram> you know the skit better than I
[11:20:44] <Bytram> AndyTheAbsurd++ Your style suggestions for button hiding got me 90% of the way there. I'll be the first to admit that what I implemented is as ugly as sin, but it *seems* to work and it will be incredibly useful the next time we have a wall-of-text story, such as the next corona virus roundup.
[11:20:44] <Bender> karma - andytheabsurd: 43
[11:21:38] <AndyTheAbsurd> Bytram: Glad it worked out. There's probably 50 better ways to do it; I just have no idea what they are!
[11:21:49] <Bytram> that makes two of us!
[11:22:20] <FatPhil> Bytram: what's the story I should be checking?
[11:22:29] <Bytram> The first law of optimization is: don't do it! The second law of optimization is: don't do it!
[11:22:50] <Bytram> FatPhil: It should work on every story...
[11:23:29] <Bytram> on the main page https://dev.soylentnews.org you should NOT see any "Skip to the comment(s)" button.
[11:23:31] <systemd> ^ 03Dev.SN: Dev.SN &hearts developers
[11:25:11] <Bytram> On every story, when opened by itself, at the top just before the Body Text, (1) the button SHOULD BE displayed, and (2) when clicked should change focus to the top of the comment section... subject to the vagaries of your browser's behavior
[11:25:52] <FatPhil> WORKSFORME
[11:26:40] <Bytram> if the comments start on the same page, I would generally expect no action. If the comments start below the bottom of the screen, then I would expect the page to redisplay with the comment section appearing at the top of the window (assuming that the rest of the story scrolls off the bottom of the page)
[11:26:47] <Bytram> FatPhil++ Thank you!
[11:26:47] <Bender> karma - fatphil: 57
[11:26:51] <Bytram> so...
[11:27:23] <FatPhil> it needs some prettifying, but it's functional
[11:27:37] <Bytram> (1) did you see any kind of colored stripe behind the button, going across the screen, in a different color than the rest of the story background?
[11:28:02] <FatPhil> nope. all good in vt100/220/whatever it is
[11:28:40] <Bytram> (2) Did you see any extra whitespace inserted on the main page below the story header and before the body test?
[11:28:51] <Bytram> (2) Did you see any extra whitespace inserted on the main page below the story header and before the Body Text?
[11:29:51] <FatPhil> no, all fine
[11:29:55] <Bytram> YAY!!!!!!!!!!
[11:29:59] <Bytram> teamwork++
[11:29:59] <Bender> karma - teamwork: 50
[11:30:10] <Bytram> do I dare roll it out to prod?
[11:30:43] <FatPhil> I'd let the others have some input first.
[11:30:56] <Bytram> I should prolly write up a story about it, before I roll it out.
[11:31:26] <FatPhil> The prettification issue I have is that I have text zoomed quite a lot, as i have shitty eyesight.
[11:31:42] <Bytram> Stepping back from the *implementation*, what do you think of the idea?
[11:31:44] <FatPhil> And the button's borders invade other spaces
[11:31:57] <Bytram> hmmmm
[11:32:03] <FatPhil> It's a good idea, certainly.
[11:32:39] <Bytram> I just hit Ctrl-+ about 6 times and I do not see the button intruding into other fields
[11:33:20] <Bytram> Even at maximum Ctrl-+ it still looks okay to me.
[11:33:23] <FatPhil> Could it go in the <div class="details"> area instead - I have loads of room at the right of that section
[11:34:27] <Bytram> to the right of: "posted by..." and "from the ... dept" in that area?
[11:34:50] <Bytram> On my PC, I have gobs of room. Not so much on my phone.
[11:36:05] <Bytram> Also, it starts getting... interesting... either making it smaller to fit on just one row of text (in which case I could have just added a simple <a href="#acomments">Skip to comment(s)</a>)
[11:36:31] <FatPhil> http://fatphil.org
[11:36:35] <Bytram> or to start dealing with divs and clear= and float= and the like.
[11:36:38] <Bytram> clicky
[11:36:53] <FatPhil> yup, posted-by and dept area
[11:37:15] <Bytram> thanks for the pic!
[11:37:38] <Bytram> there is an existing problem with the topics names infiltrating neighboring fields.
[11:37:56] <Bytram> (is why I have it turned off in my preferences)
[11:38:03] <FatPhil> I have the icons turned off, which might make me weird
[11:38:25] <FatPhil> lightweight page layout, or whatever
[11:38:42] <Bytram> oh, wait... I have them turned off on Prod; not on Dev. My bad.
[11:39:03] <Bytram> Inasmuchas possible, I try to run dev plain vanilla
[11:39:44] <Bytram> and to make sure I know where I am at and the powers that are at my disposal (use carefully) I use the OMG Pwnies theme =)
[11:40:51] <Bytram> FatPhil: I see the "Skip to comment(s)" buttton has a gray/grey background; is that what you normally see with that theme?
[11:40:54] <FatPhil> I really ought to flip to vomit, so I can tell the difference
[11:41:18] <Bytram> $burrito FatPhil
[11:41:26] <Bytram> ~burrito FatPhil
[11:41:27] * exec chucks a nasty, rotten burrito at FatPhil
[11:41:28] <FatPhil> HAahhahah - I just tried to click on my screenshot!
[11:41:34] <Bytram> LOL!
[11:42:04] <FatPhil> Yup, those are the usual button renderings - not very 'VT', I know
[11:42:08] * Bytram will NOT reveal how many times he has done that... would run out of fingers and toes
[11:42:25] <Bytram> not much else you can do.
[11:42:59] * Bytram has considerable experience with genuine VT100s, quite a step up from VT52s!
[11:43:45] <FatPhil> I remember vt110 emulators, and spent a lot of time on real vt220s
[11:44:35] <FatPhil> vt52 was only an alternative option to vt100 in my terminal emu, and I never used it.
[11:45:37] <Bytram> I once had an ANSII sequence that would put the terminal mode, keyclicks on, autorepeat, and would increase the frequency of scanning the keyboard for a keypress. Depending on the length of the trace and processing overhead, pressing different keys caused a genuine VT100 to play different notes!
[11:46:05] <FatPhil> janrinok: ooof - PJW (if you don't know him, perhaps safest to remain ignorant) has just done a piece on your lockdown: https://summit.news
[11:46:06] <systemd> ^ 03Martial Law France: Citizens Have to Fill Out Form Every Time They Leave the Home
[11:46:13] <Bytram> I once had an ANSII sequence that would put the terminal into local mode, keyclicks on, autorepeat, and would increase the frequency of scanning the keyboard for a keypress. Depending on the length of the trace and processing overhead, pressing different keys caused a genuine VT100 to play different notes!
[11:46:35] <Bytram> zoinkis!
[11:48:13] <Bytram> break time. I'm going to collect my thoughts, write up a story about the new "Skip to comment(s)" button that is temporarily implemented on dev, and solicit feedback before rolling it out on prod.
[11:48:16] <Bytram> biab
[11:59:33] <Bytram> I just relized my hack takes no consideration of user's preferences ( <a href="https://dev.soylentnews.org/my/homepage">Homepage Setings</a> )
[11:59:34] <Bytram> (1) [] "Simple Design" (Simplifies the design of Dev.SN to strip away some of the excesses of the UI.)
[11:59:34] <Bytram> (2) [] "Low Bandwidth" (Reduces the size of pages for people with slower network connections )
[11:59:34] <systemd> ^ 03Log In
[12:00:04] <FatPhil> all 4 combos should be checked
[12:00:33] <Bytram> xx, xo, ox, oo
[12:00:42] <Bytram> ^^^ like that?
[12:01:29] <Bytram> (SD LB)(SD !LB)(!SD LB)(!SD !LB)
[12:01:30] <FatPhil> I have both checked
[12:01:40] <Bytram> I have none checked
[12:01:55] <FatPhil> OMG, vomit is awesomely awful
[12:02:31] <FatPhil> remarkably readable, just gaudy
[12:02:38] <Bytram> you will get no argument from me on that one! ISTR that was a TMB construct for an April 1 prank a few years back. =)
[12:03:50] <Bytram> it did not exist on 2018-11-10
[12:04:42] <Bytram> (at least in the version of the source I downloaded on that date: dir *vomit*/s displayed noting
[12:04:46] <Bytram> )
[12:05:25] <Bytram> Of course, if I were to create a new topic: SARS-CoV-2 ...
[12:06:24] <Bytram> there would be much less need for this hack... but there *are* just enough wall-of-text stories where it would be useful, so I am inclined to keep it.
[12:06:54] <Bytram> but, that involves more than just adding a new entry in a table in the DB.
[12:08:14] <Bytram> correction: Of course, if I were to create a new nexus: SARS-CoV-2 ...
[12:08:40] <Bytram> I once tried adding a new topic with just a DB update and that did NOT work.
[12:09:09] <Bytram> whelp, just lost my PuTTY session to dev
[12:09:24] <Bytram> =(
[12:11:02] * Bytram has a long password and have NO site passwords of any kind cached anywhere. (just the site cookie). To logon to dev I manually type in my password and again type in a password when doing a kinit.
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[13:07:01] <FatPhil> The idiotic thing about my passwd change on dev is that as I changed my tmp pw to a new one, I realised that I was changing it to what it probably was anyway, but hadn't thought of earlier.
[13:07:09] <FatPhil> Sigh, brains are funny.
[13:12:15] <FatPhil> At least mine works better than some people's: https://i.imgur.com
[13:41:40] <Bytram> FatPhil: hi! I have paid to close attention to NCommander
[13:41:47] <Bytram> s/to/too/
[13:41:49] <exec> <Bytram> FatPhil: hi! I have paid too close attention to NCommander
[13:42:11] <Bytram> and his propensity for all-of-text, and have followed in his footsteps!
[13:42:19] <Bytram> Click
[13:42:27] <Bytram> I just submitted a story
[13:42:48] <Bytram> wrt "Click to Comment(s)" button.
[13:43:34] <Bytram> Any chance you could look it over for me and push it out?
[13:44:17] <Bytram> Note: should prolly get split up into Extended Copy
[13:45:12] <Bytram> Darn! I forgot to mention a story I posted to dev with before and after versions of the template! https://dev.soylentnews.org
[13:45:13] <systemd> ^ 03Original and Updated Versions of Template: "dispStory;misc;default" ("Skip to Comment(s)" button) - Dev.SN ( https://dev.soylentnews.org )
[14:23:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Folding@Home Update by Way of Folding.Extremeoverclocking.Com - https://sylnt.us - folding-corona
[14:23:51] <FatPhil> https://i.imgur.com
[14:26:02] <Bytram> He never gets old, does he? Kudos!
[14:30:33] <Bytram> =g "Google" collect gather all the information in the world
[14:30:34] <systemd> https://royal.pingdom.com - How Google Collects Data About You and the Internet - Pingdom ...
[14:30:53] <Bytram> =g "Google" goal collect gather all the information in the world
[14:30:54] <systemd> https://royal.pingdom.com - How Google Collects Data About You and the Internet - Pingdom ...
[14:31:05] <Bytram> -Pingdom
[14:31:14] <Bytram> =g "Google" goal collect gather all the information in the world -Pingdom
[14:31:15] <systemd> https://www.wsj.com - Google's 'Project Nightingale' Gathers Personal Health Data on ...
[14:31:28] <Bytram> =g "Google" goal collect gather all the information in the world -Pingdom -Nightingale
[14:31:29] <systemd> https://www.theguardian.com - 'The goal is to automate us': welcome to the age of surveillance ...
[14:31:39] <Bytram> =g "Google" goal collect gather all the information in the world -Pingdom -Nightingale -guardian
[14:31:40] <systemd> https://support.google.com - How does Waze work? - Waze Help - Google Support
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[15:06:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Changing the Site UI to Making Long Stories Easier to Navigate -- Input Requested - https://sylnt.us - putting-our-heads-together-from-a-distance
[15:35:18] <chromas> I hope we get a lockdown too. Freedom is overrated
[15:35:23] <chromas> "Papers please"
[15:36:57] <chromas> "Won't somebody please think of the c̶h̶i̶l̶d̶r̶e̶n̶ elderlies?"
[15:39:54] <Bytram> Same *old* thing, eh?
[15:45:12] <janrinok> chromas, what about the drug dealers and other criminals? How are they meant to cope with the current situation? People staying at home means fewer houses to burgle, harder to sell drugs on street corners.
[15:46:19] <chromas> I know, right? I'll get the edge on them with by fulfilling internet orders with my backyard trebuchet.
[15:48:31] <Bytram> I'm sure your neighbors will just flip over that1
[15:51:45] <janrinok> I thought that there was a door-to-door delivery service in the US that already threw packages over the fence. I'm sure I read that somewhere. You could get sued for stealing their idea.
[15:52:13] <chromas> If the neighbors complain then I'll just tell the cops I saw them coughing on babies
[15:53:11] <FatPhil> https://i.imgur.com
[15:53:30] <chromas> Another benefit to having a trebuchet is lawyers are no longer an issue.
[15:54:25] <chromas> I was hoping for a thumbs-up at the end of that clip. So satisfying
[15:54:30] <janrinok> FP, I thought we all did that now...?!
[15:54:50] <janrinok> it certainly feels like that after a good curry
[15:56:12] <Bytram> OMG! That is hilarious!
[15:56:17] <Bytram> FatPhil++
[15:56:17] <Bender> karma - fatphil: 58
[15:59:35] <Bytram> =g UDCO.ca
[15:59:35] <systemd> https://www.youtube.com - Useless Duck Company - YouTube
[16:06:30] <RandomFactor> ~arthur e715cf
[16:06:32] <exec> 859 stories loaded
[16:06:32] <exec> attempting to submit story: "Scientists have discovered the origins of the building blocks of life"
[16:07:03] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[16:07:09] <exec> 858 stories loaded
[16:08:22] <Bytram> I checked out the YouTube page for the "Useless Duck Company" ( https://www.youtube.com ) and fond a link to the ENTIRE VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com
[16:08:24] <systemd> ^ 03Useless Duck Company
[16:08:25] <systemd> ^ 03Butt Cleaning Robot - No More Toilet Paper! - Coronavirus Solution
[16:08:57] <RandomFactor> ~arthur 55047a
[16:08:59] <exec> 858 stories loaded
[16:08:59] <exec> attempting to submit story: "SpaceX plans first manned flight to space station in May"
[16:09:30] <RandomFactor> That link scares me
[16:09:30] <exec> submission successful - https://soylentnews.org
[16:09:36] <exec> 857 stories loaded
[16:10:35] <RandomFactor> then again, i didn't have a problem with https://www.youtube.com
[16:10:37] <systemd> ^ 03This Unicorn Changed the Way I Poop - #SquattyPotty
[16:15:52] <RandomFactor> This smart bidet is wifi connected...just...why?
[16:16:23] <RandomFactor> Oh damn, i should have kept watching
[16:16:39] <Bytram> to receive the signal from the motion sensor on the toilet bowl handle
[16:16:44] <Bytram> https://aeon.co
[16:16:45] <systemd> ^ 03Do you feel like a fraud after a success? It can mean you’re doing something well ( https://aeon.co )
[16:16:50] <Bytram> ooopops wronbg one
[16:16:59] <Bytram> https://www.youtube.com
[16:17:00] <systemd> ^ 03Baby Burping Robot
[16:19:09] <RandomFactor> Hmmm, i have an old power drill..... Sadly with something this potentially world changing I doubt they will open source it.
[16:19:58] <RandomFactor> ok, back to work, hasta
[16:20:11] <Bytram> the 2nd video looks simple enough you could probably work out the measurements right from the video
[16:31:41] <Bytram> =g named character entity apostrophe
[16:31:42] <systemd> https://www.w3schools.com - HTML Entities
[16:31:46] <Bytram> lol
[16:32:10] <chromas> &apos; ?
[16:34:09] <FatPhil> apos is XHTML but not plain HTML
[16:34:25] <chromas> is xhtml still a thing?
[16:35:05] <FatPhil> depends if you want to be derpward compatible
[16:35:09] <Bytram> &#39;
[16:35:29] <chromas> doesn't sound very named
[16:40:23] <FatPhil> you'll have to use a no-name brand
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[17:02:00] <Bytram> #yt a horse with no name
[17:02:00] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- America - A Horse With No Name+Lyrics
[17:06:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Fine-Tuning Radiocarbon Dating Could 'Rewrite' Ancient Events - https://sylnt.us
[17:38:28] * Ingar folds some
[17:38:56] <Ingar> heat up ye olde cpu
[17:47:36] <Ingar> mmm a bit too hot even :D
[18:07:35] <janrinok> FatPhil, Ingar, the UK has just announced that all bars, clubs, restaurants, leisure centres etc are to close tonight as soon as is practicable and to remain close until further notice
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[18:56:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SpaceX Plans First Manned Flight to Space Station in May - https://sylnt.us - Up,-Up,-and-Away!
[19:01:37] <Ingar> janrinok: yeah that seemed unavoidable
[19:01:45] <Ingar> they just closed the borders here
[19:03:24] <AndyTheAbsurd> State of Florida just announced that restaurants are only to allow to-go and delivery orders, no eating in; and all gyms and fitness centers are to close.
[19:03:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> All of that is in place until the governor lifts the current state of emergency.
[19:04:14] <Ingar> AndyTheAbsurd: if what is happening in europe is an example, that's phase 1
[19:05:22] <Soybull> Phase 1 of Plan 9?
[19:08:51] <Ingar> I wanted to come up with a funny reply, but living here, it ain't so funny any more
[19:09:17] <janrinok> very true
[19:09:22] <Soybull> Well, to be honest - it's less funny in the past two or three days
[19:09:23] <cmn32480> we had the same in MD a couple days ago
[19:09:32] <cmn32480> gives me one more excuse to not go to the gym!\
[19:09:50] <Soybull> one case in our county, and one each in the three nearest neighboring counties, inside our own state
[19:09:51] <janrinok> how many do you need? I stopped at the first one...
[19:09:53] <Ingar> we basicly went from work to home to close the borders in less than a week
[19:09:59] <Ingar> *work from home
[19:10:03] <Soybull> not sure of neighboring counties in the two adjacent states
[19:10:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> Soybull: last I'd seen a count, 10 cases in my county.
[19:10:56] <Soybull> someone advanced the idea that it's being spread at gasoline pumps
[19:11:01] <Soybull> ehhhhh . . .
[19:11:52] <cmn32480> janrinok - just whatever the most usable is
[19:12:01] <AndyTheAbsurd> ...wouldn't you have to lick the pump handle to spread it that way?
[19:12:19] <cmn32480> just touch the handle... then your face
[19:12:45] <cmn32480> https://www.youtube.com
[19:12:46] <systemd> ^ 03How To See Germs Spread (Coronavirus)
[19:12:48] <Ingar> AndyTheAbsurd: what happens is: infected sneezes on hand, uses pump, then you use pump, then your hands touch your face/mouth
[19:12:48] <janrinok> Unfortunately, we've got a case here in my village
[19:13:32] <cmn32480> janrinok - you guys holding up ok?
[19:13:44] <janrinok> Possibly a second one last night but we haven't learned why the ambulance was there from a reliable source - privact laws and all that
[19:14:17] <cmn32480> hopefully ti was just a bad hemorrhoid
[19:14:23] <Soybull> Reliable sources are to be rounded up and summarily executed
[19:14:24] <janrinok> cmn32480, spend most of the time indoors, went out shopping for the weekly veggies etc this morning, and keeping my fingers crossed.
[19:14:31] <Ingar> there is one positive side to all this crap though
[19:14:36] <Ingar> the air is so clean!
[19:14:36] <cmn32480> after washing them, I assume?
[19:14:55] <Bytram> Imagine my joy realizing I live in an apartment building with dozens of tennants... who all touch the same doorknobs to enter/exit.
[19:14:59] <Soybull> cmn32480 washes his airs?
[19:15:09] <janrinok> lol
[19:15:30] <Cascade> The air is clean but you can't enjoy it from inside.
[19:15:49] <Ingar> well, I actually go to the office
[19:16:07] <Ingar> our company handles medical docs for hopsitals and all that
[19:16:15] <Cascade> So you're the one still contaminating it.
[19:16:30] <Ingar> I do have the entire floor to myself :)
[19:16:37] <Cascade> Stop touching my airs
[19:16:40] <Ingar> and I cycle
[19:16:50] <janrinok> I live in a very rural area so the air quality is not bad at any time. But the reduction in traffic has reduced the slight noise that we could usually hear out in the garden to the occasional passing vehicle.
[19:16:55] <Ingar> so the fresh air is a welcome change from the usual airplane smog
[19:17:36] <Ingar> very few planes too
[19:17:49] <Ingar> only planes from dHL coming from italy and spain and all that :D
[19:17:57] <Soybull> reminds me of the inane bumper stickers on trucks: Diesel smoke makes me horny
[19:23:41] <Cascade> Honk honk!
[19:23:49] <Bytram> beep beep!
[19:23:55] <Bytram> Road Runner!
[19:26:13] * Cascade paints a tunnel on brick wall
[19:27:02] * Bytram flips through his Acme catalog
[19:36:26] <AndyTheAbsurd> #yt farscape looney tunes
[19:36:26] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- Saturday Morning Farscape
[19:37:00] <AndyTheAbsurd> One of the best shows ever to be on television.
[19:38:36] <FatPhil> janrinok: yeah, I just saw that headline
[19:39:06] <FatPhil> because we all know the thing that tells the world you've been doing the right thing previously is a sudden and dramatic change to something different.
[19:47:58] <janrinok> well, it was because people were not staying away from bars and clubs and being in groups - so they changed the rules.
[19:48:44] <janrinok> not sure how that will stop people from having parties at home though
[19:49:33] <Ingar> when they first closed the bars here, people just hopped over the border
[19:49:44] <Ingar> there were corona parties the last night bars were open
[19:50:01] <janrinok> that's a bit trickier (and wetter) in the UK
[19:51:07] <Ingar> even from brussels to the netherlands is less than an hour drive
[19:51:46] <Ingar> but if anything, people are getting it
[19:51:50] <Ingar> (now)
[19:52:02] <janrinok> I used to drive from calais to germany (or return) quite regularly. In Germany I lived within walking distance of the Dutch border
[19:52:39] <Ingar> janrinok: so you can probably image what would happen :D
[19:52:45] <Bytram> Giving new meaning to the expression "Dutch treat"?
[19:52:49] <janrinok> yep.
[19:52:52] <Ingar> lol
[19:53:35] <janrinok> but it's time for me to go for today. See you all tomorrow probably
[19:54:55] <Bytram> janrinok: have a good night! Very much enjoyed our chat earlier!
[19:55:05] <Bytram> Hug and a kiss to S for me?
[20:13:33] <FatPhil> whilst we're doing personal responsibility here, the govt has capped bars at 10pm every night.
[20:14:28] <FatPhil> Which basically means all clubs have no reason to exist.
[20:14:41] <FatPhil> (Hooorah! he shouts to himself quietly)
[20:16:44] <chromas> butt butt muh economies
[20:16:48] <FatPhil> went to one of my favourite bars tonight, met a couple of friends (one who had just come back from bloody Sweden), but there was only one other group in the bar. Staff said that everythign gets wiped down with alcohol-based disinfectant after every group leaves, so risks are lowered
[20:17:30] <chromas> The just spill some beer and sop it up
[20:18:03] <FatPhil> I think I was on a 13%-er this evening, but that won't kill Corona Extra
[20:21:34] <RandomFactor> "alcohol based disinfectant" - Hey Zeb, gimme a bottle of the cheapest rotgut we've got.
[20:41:51] * dx3bydt3 is enjoying a mouth sanitiser right now.
[20:42:08] <dx3bydt3> Scotch flavoured.
[20:55:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - An Open Letter to Web Developers - https://sylnt.us - Do-No-Evil-Poof!-Gone.
[21:09:06] <chromas> Open Letter to Web Developers: Stop shitting up the internet. Thanks. Sincerely, stop it now.
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[21:46:48] <RandomFactor> Hulu falled down. Netflix falled down. Crunchy Roll is fine.
[21:47:58] <RandomFactor> I wonder what is on the other side of that rectangle in the wall at the front of the house?
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[21:48:54] <chromas> Have the torrents failed?
[21:50:01] <RandomFactor> unknown, i guess i could load some form of torrenty software to find out
[21:50:28] <RandomFactor> Hulu is back anyhoo
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[22:01:40] <AndyTheAbsurd> #yt give a negative fuck
[22:01:41] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- Vytautas mineral water! It&#39;s Earth&#39;s Juice! VOSTFR full
[22:09:33] <AndyTheAbsurd> what are we using to find torrents these days?
[22:09:53] <RandomFactor> Dunno, never really got into them.
[22:10:03] <RandomFactor> Unless you count a few game updaters
[22:16:34] <FatPhil> rarbg and zooqle carry most things I'm after, apart from F1 races that I get from a private tracker.
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[22:21:09] <Bytram> youtube-dl is good enough for my needs; seriously wonder how I managed without it. In case you were unaware, it works on far more sites than just YouTube!
[22:25:22] <FatPhil> like porntube, youporn, redtube, redporn, pornporn, and pornpornpro!
[22:28:25] <FatPhil> someone's taking the piss: https://www.osta.ee ("TP with free junk")
[22:28:28] <systemd> ^ 03RULL WC PABERIT + Tasuta kraami...
[22:31:54] <chromas> youtube-dl doesn't deal with widevine drm though :(
[22:47:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Scientists Have Discovered the Origins of the Building Blocks of Life - https://sylnt.us - tiny-little-Lego®s
[22:49:45] <chromas> from the jizz dept.
[22:56:07] <FatPhil> #weather
[22:56:09] <MrPlow> Pärnu mnt 67a, 10131 Tallinn, Estonia - Today: "Mostly cloudy throughout the day." 34/26F, Humidity: 64%, Precip: 18%, Wind ~8mph. Sun: "Clear throughout the day." 35/23F, Humidity: 57%, Precip: 6%, Wind ~6mph. Mon: "Clear throughout the day." 40/30F, Humidity: 67%, Precip: 1%, Wind ~9mph.