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[01:16:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA's Psyche Asteroid Mission Will Launch on a Falcon Heavy Rocket - https://sylnt.us - joystick-control-provided-by-Atari
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[02:32:41] <pinchy> come all ye ethanole-fuelly, joyous and trollie oh come all ye
[02:40:17] <AzumaHazuki> Eth hasn't been able to come for a good 25 years, is my guess
[02:46:39] <pinchy> i wonder what the pirate bay founders are up to?
[03:00:51] <chromas> linux--
[03:00:51] <Bender> karma - linux: 1
[03:01:10] <chromas> Tried to open a small svg and the whole thing locked up
[03:01:25] <chromas> can ping but not ssh
[03:03:10] <chromas> Looks like it's doing the thing where it keeps handing out memory even when there isn't any, so the whole computer becomes useless but at least the program got its ram
[03:03:15] <chromas> linux--
[03:03:15] <Bender> karma - linux: 0
[03:03:27] <Bytram> is it a headless system? Or are you using a local kbd, mouse, and monitor?
[03:04:09] <chromas> local, headed
[03:04:30] <Bytram> Do the caps-lock, num-lock, and scroll-lock indicators toggle when you press them?
[03:04:52] <chromas> I should've checked those but didn't
[03:05:02] <chromas> Couldn't ctrl-alt-F-key or anything
[03:05:19] <Bytram> okaaay'
[03:05:32] <chromas> HDD light was solid, so it could've been swapping, which it'll do even without swap space I guess
[03:05:48] <Bytram> if you put a cd in the slot and close the door, does it spin up>
[03:05:54] <Bytram> s/>/?/
[03:05:56] <exec> <Bytram> if you put a cd in the slot and close the door, does it spin up?
[03:06:01] <chromas> Already murdered it
[03:06:16] <Bytram> That'll teach it!
[03:06:55] <chromas> I wonder if ther's a ulimit-like tool that can abe applied to every process automatically
[03:07:17] <chromas> To limit the amount of memory available
[03:07:25] <Bytram> I basically ask myself what kind of hardware interrupts can I throw at the box to see how much response I can get from the system.
[03:08:08] <chromas> It's been awhile, so I didn't think about it, but usually I try the system request hotkeys (which almost never work)
[03:08:34] <Bytram> If the *-lock keys don't toggle the indicator lights, then things are pretty much toast... but could be something else...
[03:09:15] <Bytram> back-in-the-day when we had PS-2 connectors, it was a stronger indication than we have now with USB
[03:09:20] <chromas> Yeah, it's all Linus' fault
[03:09:37] <Bytram> closer to the bare metal.
[03:09:44] <Bytram> ~blame
[03:09:45] * exec points at Bytram
[03:09:59] <chromas> and/or AMD's fault
[03:10:42] <Bytram> =g man ulimit
[03:10:43] <systemd> https://ss64.com - ulimit Man Page - Linux - SS64.com
[03:10:43] <chromas> Shouldn't be possible for a task to lock it up since preventing that is the entire and only purpose of preemptive multitasking
[03:11:39] <Bytram> unless there is something like a "ping storm" going on and the box is just being hammered with interrupts
[03:11:53] <chromas> I bet the old boxes you used to work on 130 years ago never did that
[03:12:51] <chromas> or maybe 30 years ago
[03:13:30] <Bytram> Darn tootin! It took 'em decades and decades of practice to get them to the state where they could fail in entirely non-obvious an indiscernible ways.
[03:13:35] * chromas brings in some tee and asks Bytram to tell him some stories about big iron
[03:13:56] <Bytram> =g tonka
[03:13:57] <systemd> https://en.wikipedia.org - Tonka - Wikipedia
[03:14:11] <Bytram> =g caterpillar tractor
[03:14:12] <systemd> https://www.cat.com - Heavy Equipment / Heavy Machinery | Caterpillar - Cat
[03:14:26] <Bytram> ^^^ now *that* is *big* iron!
[03:15:25] <Bytram> brb dishes
[03:26:42] <Bytram> done
[03:36:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - COVID-19 (SARS-CoV-2 - CoronaVirus) Roundup - https://sylnt.us - sick-and-tired-of-being-sick-and-tired
[05:48:03] * FatPhil remembers the BKL
[05:49:48] <FatPhil> AzumaHazuki: I saw some 'grats being handed out - may I presume you get a thumbs up on your druuuuugz exam?
[05:50:06] <AzumaHazuki> would you believe, a perfect 1600 of 1600?
[05:50:10] <AzumaHazuki> because i still don't
[05:50:26] <FatPhil> wowzers
[05:50:36] <FatPhil> high five!
[05:50:37] <AzumaHazuki> this does not feel real. like, this does not happen.
[05:52:00] <FatPhil> So, when do you take your position as head of the CDC?
[05:52:57] <AzumaHazuki> in about 10 minutes, after the fifth one we've had in 3 years gets shitcanned for ethics violations
[05:53:18] <FatPhil> Elsewhere, a few weeks back, I acidentally complemented the CDC for being theoretically competant.
[05:53:38] <FatPhil> How wrong was I, how sadly wrong...
[05:54:50] <FatPhil> But anyway, good on you, you can be rightfully proud.
[05:55:02] <AzumaHazuki> the timing on this...at any other time up to even a year ago this would have been a golden ticket
[05:55:15] <AzumaHazuki> now? for all i know i may be dead in a few months if everything goes to hell
[05:57:35] <FatPhil> there's certainly a bit of hell coming, but I don't think this is a spanish flu scenario.
[05:58:06] <AzumaHazuki> poor people are marginal. i can't afford to stock up on 2 months' food, water, and supplies.
[05:58:13] <AzumaHazuki> if this goes really bad...
[05:58:31] <FatPhil> I have awarded myself the "first solentil to live in a town with a confirmed case" award.
[05:58:44] <FatPhil> plus letters
[05:58:45] <AzumaHazuki> well, at the very worst, it just means i use my pharmacology knowledge to check out early on my own terms. all the materials are in place...
[05:59:44] <FatPhil> do you have any insights into the gender disparity? it seems like it's 2:1
[06:00:26] <AzumaHazuki> yes...the virus uses the ACE2 receptor as its point of entry, which IIRC is expressed in more cell types in males than females
[06:01:03] <FatPhil> yup, I heard that a few weeks ago, it's nice to see that confirmed
[06:01:08] <AzumaHazuki> unfortunately, ACE inhibitor drugs (*pril) don't affect the receptors in the lungs...
[06:07:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How a Seasonal Snarl-Up in the Mid-1500s Gave Us Our Strange Rules for Leap Years - https://sylnt.us - No-one-told-me-there-would-be-math!
[06:09:28] <FatPhil> Only the one math? But I want all the maths!
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[08:25:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Largest Explosion Since the Big Bang - https://sylnt.us - Memo:Four-pounds-of-C4-may-be-a-little...excessive.
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[10:45:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Facebook Sues Analytics Firm For Allegedly Harvesting User Data - https://sylnt.us - about-to-get-caught-again
[11:15:10] <FatPhil> Woo woo! tax refund time!
[12:27:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Facebook Sues Analytics Firm for Allegedly Harvesting User Data - https://sylnt.us - about-to-get-caught-again
[12:30:52] <FatPhil> What the fuck is a "full course meal"? My English brain understands all of the words but that conjuction makes no fucking sense at all.
[12:31:48] <FatPhil> what was the single (it's conjugated as a singular) course full of? And how is the different from any other course ever.?
[12:32:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, playing dragon ball z: kakarot are we?
[12:33:28] <FatPhil> nope, reading the reviews of https://www.metacritic.com
[12:33:31] <systemd> ^ 03Gretel & Hansel
[12:33:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> huh. that game uses the exact same engrish.
[12:35:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> poster might have been playing it recently i spose.
[12:35:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++ #smoke break
[12:35:18] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 756
[12:37:34] <FatPhil> g/f had heard the phrase before, but only in an american context, not a british one. We both can only imagine it's a misheard corruption of "four course meal".
[12:38:29] <FatPhil> Anyone seen 1917 or The Invisible Man?
[12:38:48] <FatPhil> Thinking of popping out to the cinema tonight, and haven't decided what to watch.
[12:43:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> not in a very long time
[12:44:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod. four course meal used to be a legit phrase in the US. outside highly formal settings for rich folks, you're not going to see meals served in distinct courses in the US anymore though.
[12:45:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> we just put that shit all on the table and get our itadakimasu on nowadays
[12:51:23] <FatPhil> If it doesn't have a single damask tablecloth and 3 wine glasses on the table, it's not fancy enough a restaurant.
[12:52:02] <FatPhil> do the waiters wear gloves, that's the important question.
[12:53:45] <FatPhil> There's a foodie week next week in town, and 70 of the fanciest restuarants are doing fixed menus for 20e or 30e/face, some specials, but some are from their regular menu, and coming in at about 40-50e.
[12:54:07] <FatPhil> (30e-35e for the 20e ones)
[12:54:31] <FatPhil> We use that as an excuse to visit restaurants that would be completely out of our price range.
[12:55:00] <FatPhil> I'm a bit of a scumbag, to be honest, sometimes I feel completely out of place!
[12:55:52] <FatPhil> right, let's watch another episode of /The Feed/...
[13:05:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Cloud Computing Is Not the Energy Hog That Had Been Feared - https://sylnt.us - send-in-the-clouds
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[14:12:36] <FatPhil> anyone know anything about CSV files? are literal newlines permitted in strings?
[14:14:13] <FatPhil> looks like they are. makes parsing a bit of a drag
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[15:19:31] <AndyTheAbsurd> FatPhil: for CSV files, like anything else, use a parsing library maintained by someone else if possible. That's not a kind of trouble you want to be inviting.
[15:22:53] <FatPhil> yeah, I was using Text::CSV, but some whiney bugger was complaining about what it was outputting. But I'm right and he's wrong, so pffft!
[15:26:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Sense Discovered in Dog Noses: The Ability to Detect Heat - https://sylnt.us - smells-pretty-warm
[15:28:59] <AndyTheAbsurd> $33 earplugs ordered. Chances I lose one of them at the first concert I wear them at?
[15:29:06] <AndyTheAbsurd> Probably higher than I'd like.
[17:09:15] <Runaway1956__> Sorry FatPhil but your newlines question reminds me of 4chan
[17:09:30] <Runaway1956__> Are literal newfags permitted? LOL
[17:25:08] <Runaway1956__> These two links for TheMightyBuzzard
[17:25:23] <Runaway1956__> https://www.texomashomepage.com
[17:25:26] <systemd> ^ 03‘He was there to hurt, kill people’: witness recalls ‘highly volatile situation’ at Walmart
[17:25:40] <Runaway1956__> https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com
[17:25:41] <systemd> ^ 03Why We Carry: Oklahoma Deputy Dumps Disturbed, Violent Suspect at Texas Walmart - The Truth About Guns
[17:47:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Boeing Acknowledges “Gaps” in its Starliner Software Testing - https://sylnt.us - uninspiring
[18:09:23] <RandomFactor> @andytheabsurd $33 earplugs?? Do you mean NRR 33? (I generally keep a couple of pairs of Flents Quiet Time foam earplugs on me, which are NRR 33 and run about $0.33 a pair)
[19:19:10] <AndyTheAbsurd> RandomFactor: No, I've used the $0.33 ones and they suck for concerts, so I order a set of these: https://www.loopearplugs.com
[19:19:12] <systemd> ^ 03Protect Your Ears in Style | Loop Earplugs
[19:19:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> $30 regular price plus $3 for expedited shipping.
[19:52:11] <RandomFactor> @andytheabsurd Interesting. NR is lower, but should still take the ring out of concert going. I'm not sure I'll grant the 'stylish' claim, but they're at least not obviously foam earplugs stuck in your ears. I'm more worried about ridiculously loud things like volleyball tournaments, which
[19:52:11] <RandomFactor> don't require fidelity :-)
[19:57:49] <FatPhil> /The Invisible Man/ gets my recommendation.
[20:05:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Printer Toner Linked to Genetic Changes, Health Risks in New Study - https://sylnt.us - who-could-have-guessed?
[20:46:50] <chromas> Sounds like Inkjet propaganda but ok
[21:10:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> quick survey: add a -1 StopDraggingPoliticsIntoEverything mod?
[21:10:33] <Fnord666> lol
[21:13:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... no... how about a -1 UghPolitics mod that can't be applied to stories in the Politics nexus
[21:14:33] <carny> let's just post everything under politics since politics is causing all the problems anyway ;]
[21:14:46] <carny> except the new hardware posts
[21:14:51] <carny> those are nice
[21:21:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> i like the boobs science stories but we don't post enough of them. i mean, really, they should at least come in pairs.
[21:23:34] <chromas> Good idea. They should be posted tit for tat
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[22:27:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Artificial Synapses Connect Biological and Artificial Neurons at a Distance - https://sylnt.us - only-way-left-is-to-hack-your-own-brain
[23:19:24] <FatPhil> https://mobile.twitter.com
[23:19:25] <systemd> ^ 03Twitter
[23:20:05] <chromas> "He needs to endorse Biden"
[23:20:11] <chromas> le kek
[23:58:02] <RandomFactor> @themightbuzzard PRETTY PLEASE I want the 'stop dragging politics into everything' downmod.
[23:58:20] * RandomFactor sighs
[23:58:26] <RandomFactor> @themightybuzzard
[23:59:54] <RandomFactor> Also - I don't remember any of those stories. I guess my mammary fails me.