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[01:17:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Parent Company Alphabet Pulls the Plug on Power-Generating Kite Project - https://sylnt.us - go-fly-a-kite
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[03:35:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Chemists Use Mass Spectrometry Tools to Determine Age of Fingerprints - https://sylnt.us - whorl-new-world
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[04:09:18] <systemd> Submitting "Canadian Privacy Commissioners to Investigate Creepy Facial Recognition Firm Clearview AI"...
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[05:56:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Cyber-Attack Hits US Department of Defence Agency - May/July 2019 - https://sylnt.us - now-they-are-telling-us
[08:16:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Zeno's Paradoxes - https://sylnt.us - brain-teasers
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[10:37:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Always Use UTF-8 and Always Label Your HTML to Say So - https://sylnt.us
[13:07:08] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Pwns for Sale: Scythe Prepares a Marketplace for Sharing Simulated Hacks - https://sylnt.us - cutting-edge
[15:15:38] <FatPhil> Inevitable: https://www.youtube.com
[15:15:39] <systemd> ^ 03Daredevil Mad Mike Hughes Rocket Accident
[15:15:50] <FatPhil> https://www.independent.co.uk
[15:16:03] <systemd> ^ 03Daredevil who wanted to prove Earth is flat dies after crashing homemade rocket
[15:17:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~time x
[15:17:37] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Sunday, 23 February 2020, 3:17 pm
[15:26:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - JAXA Approves Phobos Sample Return Mission, Set for 2024 Launch - https://sylnt.us - this-time-for-sure || Meta: Conspicuous Privacy Policy - https://sylnt.us - anything-not-illegal-is-compulsory
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[16:02:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, now there's a man who was willing to go the extra mile for a good troll
[16:07:57] <AzumaHazuki> tell me something...why is it admirable, to you, for someone to be a "troll?"
[16:09:09] <FatPhil> he didn't even manage a mile!
[16:09:16] <FatPhil> let alone an extra one
[16:10:01] <FatPhil> Some of shakespeare's finest characters have been trolls.
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[16:12:16] <AzumaHazuki> because they had some noble goal in mind
[16:12:36] <AzumaHazuki> people seem to forget, trolling and other sorts of chaotic arcana are useless in themselves. they're a means, not an end
[16:14:33] <FatPhil> and therefore you cannot criticise their use merely for their use.
[16:14:40] <FatPhil> or are you trolling us?
[16:32:36] <AzumaHazuki> have you ever known me to actually troll? i'm as serious as an incoming asteroid, all business all the time. i'll mock people and insult them, but not troll
[16:56:40] <FatPhil> why do you shun the nuance possible in irony?
[16:58:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, because trolling combats the spread of social sacred cows.
[16:59:32] <AzumaHazuki> when done correctly, possibly. you disappeared up your own ass decades ago, so you can't be trusted to make a sound judgment
[17:00:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, in all cases.
[17:00:48] <AzumaHazuki> no, not in all cases, else you wouldn't even have a Spam mod and Troll would be neutral or positive
[17:01:27] <AzumaHazuki> besides which, your definition of "social sacred cows" is "anything i don't like or that gets in the way of doing whatever i want to whomever i want at all times"
[17:01:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> spam isn't supposed to be used on trolling and it probably would be positive if it were me deciding
[17:02:00] <AzumaHazuki> jesus christ. go back to playing persona 5 or some other edgy tryhard teenager bullshit. rebel without a clue...
[17:02:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, my definition of social sacred cows is absolutely anything that people refuse to discuss rationally, including me.
[17:02:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> scuse me, allow dissent on not discuss rationally
[17:03:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> i despise the entire concept of social sacred cows, because it can be easily weaponized for censorship purposes
[17:04:30] <AzumaHazuki> so absolutely anything is fair game? including, for example, doxxing you? not that I would, just asking hypothetically
[17:06:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> i didn't say it wouldn't annoy me, and i'm personally in favor of that being allowed, but the law and the rest of the staff disagree.
[17:07:00] <AzumaHazuki> ...let me get this straight, you are actually in favor of people doxxing other people?
[17:07:23] <pinchy> get em zuki
[17:07:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm in favor of it being legal and allowed, yes. not in favor of it being done.
[17:07:38] <AzumaHazuki> why? please, explain this to me.
[17:07:48] <AzumaHazuki> because that is fucking batshit
[17:07:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> because of the fundamental principle that not everything you dislike should be illegal
[17:08:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> but doxxing generally isn't trolling, it's something entirely else.
[17:08:45] * AzumaHazuki facepalms
[17:09:10] <AzumaHazuki> your problem is you're a dumbass rebel without a clue, let alone a cause.
[17:09:20] <AzumaHazuki> thank christ the rest of the staff are keeping you in check
[17:09:36] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[17:09:41] <FatPhil> Philip Andrew Paul Carmody. 1971-02-13. Suurtuki 2-11, Tallinn 10133. ID=37102130046
[17:09:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> your opinion, as always, is crucial to my self image.
[17:09:54] <FatPhil> what's so wrong about doxing?
[17:10:11] <FatPhil> Tel: +358405734741
[17:10:32] <FatPhil> anything else you need?
[17:10:39] <AzumaHazuki> i don't need any of that
[17:10:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, i wouldn't care myself but we have the type of folks in the community that'd think it's hilarious to mail me a turd.
[17:10:57] <AzumaHazuki> just because i have peoples' information doesn't mean i'd use it anyway...though a turd isn't what i had in mind
[17:11:14] <AzumaHazuki> think more along the lines of glitter
[17:11:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's because you're a chick and chicks aren't funny
[17:11:36] <AzumaHazuki> your opinion, as always, is crucial to my self-image :D
[17:11:37] <FatPhil> They'd be the one who would have to deal with a fresh turd. Probably wouldn't get through the postal franking.!
[17:12:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, zip-lock freezer bag.
[17:12:42] <FatPhil> idon't open anything that squidges
[17:12:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, would it help if i put a </talkingoutmyass> tag when i'm doing so?
[17:13:02] <AzumaHazuki> no, i assume those tags are always in force
[17:13:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> efficiency++
[17:13:20] <Bender> karma - efficiency: 1
[17:13:37] <AzumaHazuki> just remember: the fewest rules up front does not necessarily equate to the most freedom. you seem to have some sort of mental block around this concept
[17:14:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, i just got a different definition of freedom than you. i don't think comfort factors in to it in any way.
[17:15:47] <AzumaHazuki> you know, i was joking about "go play persona 5 or something" before, but you actually do remind me of a villainou archetype from the SMT series
[17:16:43] <AzumaHazuki> almost concept for concept, actually, you're the Chaos-aligned sort. You know, the ones whose Reasons or new worlds inevitably end up being demon-infested nightmares?
[17:16:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's not "give me plenty of food, a decent place to live, affordable transportation, free education for my kids, the best healthcare on the planet, and then whatever liberty's left over after you're done with those or give me death" it's "give me liberty or give me death"
[17:17:05] <AzumaHazuki> yeah, and people who think and act like you end up getting death without the liberty
[17:17:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> and we're okay with that
[17:17:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> because life without liberty isn't worth having
[17:17:52] <AzumaHazuki> i get it, you're fundamentally broken and can't relate to other human beings. that's fine, just don't pretend your mindset is rational, sustainable, or workable in the real world
[17:18:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> blah blah blah. you're missing some crucial links in your logic chain there but i don't really care today.
[17:19:50] <AzumaHazuki> i do understand: you can't have the other things without liberty. i get it perfectly. problem is, if there aren't constraints on liberty to do certain things, you ALSO can't have those other things
[17:20:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> first lazyass day i've had in i don't know how long and i had to pull a couple muscles to get it. so i'm gonna spend it doing things i enjoy like napping, watching cartoons, and playing video games
[17:21:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> speaking of, my new vid card rocks my stripy socks at h264 encoding. quality's not as good as cpu but way faster.
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[17:23:04] <pinchy> is it time to send dik pix to that number posted above?
[17:24:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> he's prolly seen one before, so not much shock value
[17:26:12] <pinchy> lemme see if gvoice can touch it
[17:46:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How Does Starlink Work Anyway? - https://sylnt.us - how-it-works-is-up-in-the-air
[17:52:58] <carny> TheMightyBuzzard: is there a way to get it to encode at the same quality with less of a performance boost?
[18:13:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> carny, lower the clock speed of the card, i suppose
[18:15:00] <FatPhil> ITHM "at the same quality as the CPU"
[18:15:15] <FatPhil> Encoders are massively parameterised - just change the parameters.
[18:16:08] <FatPhil> there's more than enough precision in a GPU core to encode as accurately at the same bitrate.
[18:16:18] <FatPhil> are you sure you're getting the same bitrate?
[18:47:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, same RF. i don't give a happy damn about an exact bitrate as long as the quality's something i can live with and it comes out around a size i'm happy with.
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[19:30:03] <FatPhil> TheMightyBuzzard: if your GPU encoder doesn't encode B frames, then for the same bitrate it will probably have lower SNR, because B frames tend to be compressed more tightly. Can you enable B frames in the encoder?
[19:30:58] * chromas mails the prez a giant turd with FatPhil's as the return address
[19:33:57] <FatPhil> We nearly bought a flat basically upstairs from the US embassy here in Tallinn! I suspect they'd have doubled security if that had been the case.
[19:36:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, they're enabled by default.
[19:36:43] <FatPhil> Attic flat here: https://www.openstreetmap.org (and for reading the legend on the building next door, uhend = united, riikide=states, saatkond=embassy)
[19:36:44] <systemd> ^ 03Way: 26900130 | OpenStreetMap
[19:37:08] <FatPhil> We would have had full time armed guards on the parking lot!
[19:39:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you wanted that you could have just moved here. i'd even show you some of my not quite best fishing spots.
[19:39:37] <FatPhil> TheMightyBuzzard: weird, the quality shouldn't be different then. 16-bits should be enough for anybody!
[19:40:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> gpus cheat just a bit on the math last i checked.
[19:40:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> but even cranked to max quality they're way faster than my cpu
[19:41:58] <FatPhil> Looking on the internet it seems everyone experiences the same thing. People are asking why, but the answers always seem to be "it just is".
[19:42:27] <FatPhil> As someone who has video encoding (on DSPs, remember them?) on his CV, this perturbs me.
[19:42:31] <chromas> Maybe GPU bits are inflated
[19:42:45] <FatPhil> They just don't wire up bits 13-16!
[19:43:06] <chromas> Venezuelan bitrates
[19:44:10] <FatPhil> ah, he must be using bolivariable rate encoding!
[19:45:17] <chromas> FatPhil++
[19:45:17] <Bender> karma - fatphil: 53
[19:56:37] <FatPhil> GPUs should even be IEEE754, no? in which case there's no reason they need to be less precise than CPU unless they've deliberately cut corners.
[19:56:56] <FatPhil> But who needs speed? video encoding can be done overnight if need be. Learn to schedule.
[20:07:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Radical Hydrogen-Boron Reactor Leapfrogs Current Nuclear Fusion Tech - https://sylnt.us - fire-it-up
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[22:26:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Elon Musk's Boring Company Finishes First Tunnel for 155mph Vegas Loop - https://sylnt.us - boring-story
[22:45:50] <Ghoul> ElonMusk++
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