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[02:14:11] <Runaway1956__> Oooh! For the first time ever, I have a living MacOS on my AMD computer
[02:14:30] <Runaway1956__> It's not configured or anything - have to look into that tomorrow
[02:14:53] <Runaway1956__> I've tried several times, and never ever got one to boot to UEFI screen, LOL
[02:14:57] <Runaway1956__> WHOOT!
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[03:52:29] <AzumaHazuki> from the summary there...why is it "art [xor] porn?" Something can be both
[03:52:59] <Bytram> because that's what they ask in the video.
[03:53:44] <AzumaHazuki> there's been some really beautiful x-rated art out there. specifically on the anime side of things, some artists have a few OTPs and draw them religiously
[03:54:30] <Bytram> venus
[03:54:51] <AzumaHazuki> mercury x jupiter more like <3
[03:54:56] <Bytram> nekkid wimmin in marble
[03:55:07] <Bytram> is art
[03:56:17] <AzumaHazuki> i do like some of those old statues, yes :) it's almost meditative, looking at them
[03:56:21] <Bytram> "I can't tell you what porn is but I'll know it when I see it"
[03:56:40] <Bytram> some judge some while back, I think
[03:57:29] <AzumaHazuki> that's a failure of articulation on his part then
[03:57:37] <AzumaHazuki> he has some criteria, he just can't put words around them
[03:57:56] <Bytram> I must admit, I was somewhat surprised by the video. ( https://www.youtube.com )
[03:57:57] <systemd> ^ 03Is Hentai Art?
[03:58:11] <AzumaHazuki> for my part, and maybe this is a woman thing, the emotions and motivations are really important. "mainsteam" porn squicks me out, even the so-called lesbian content
[03:58:38] <AzumaHazuki> at best there's no passion. more and more commonly, what i see is fear and degradation being sold
[03:59:00] <Bytram> Have you watched the vid? It mentions much the same thing!
[03:59:34] <AzumaHazuki> eh...remember "hentai" encompasses all sorts of weird awful shit, just in animated form. these are the people who brought you tentacle rape
[04:00:13] <AzumaHazuki> ...ironically, a tentacle is a lot more like a cross between a finger and a tongue than a penis. the real ones insinuate and curl and slide, rather than thrust
[04:00:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, live-action japanese pr0n can get just as rank
[04:01:04] <AzumaHazuki> you know how you can tell fake "lesbian" porn? fingernails. a gay girl with a french manicure is single and unhappy about it.
[04:01:04] <Bytram> It's actually quite well done, never mind that it is presented by a scantily-clad animated woman.
[04:01:47] <AzumaHazuki> i am really, really hoping the fact that my nails are as short as a guy's isn't an obvious tell :/
[04:01:50] <Bytram> So... if she has fingernails, she's *not* gay? TIL!
[04:02:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> me, i just want to believe they're doing it because they're pervy horndogs rather than because it pays good.
[04:02:19] <AzumaHazuki> Bytram: well, she's definitely not having much sex with other women, unless she's a "pillow princess" type
[04:02:26] <AzumaHazuki> which personally sounds incredibly boring
[04:02:51] * Bytram makes a mental note.
[04:04:56] <AzumaHazuki> i just...can't separate sex from love, or at least very strong attachment. and it's scary to me that people can. mostly men apparently?
[04:06:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> men don't get hit by oxytocin nearly as hard on average. evolutionary trait actively selected for.
[04:07:26] <Bytram> The greeks had a bunch of different words for love... philo (brotherly love), agape (deep affection llke for one's mom), eros (erotic/sex), and oida (all-encompassing, two-become-one)
[04:08:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> being the expendable ones, it behooves the species for us to want to fuck anything that moves
[04:09:02] <AzumaHazuki> men should not be expendable
[04:09:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> evolution disagrees.
[04:09:38] <Bytram> It is clear to me that having sex *could* be just an act (eros) that provides physical pleasure with no emotional attachment. Or, in a deep and loving relationship, sex is a means by which each partner attempts to become one with the other (oida)
[04:10:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> having half the population being able to do really risky shit that may have a high payoff, because they're not all necessary, provides a clear advantage.
[04:11:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> genes have no morality
[04:11:08] <AzumaHazuki> we're more than the sum of our DNA and evolutionary heritage. these things are important, and anything we build on them needs to take those into account, but they're only our base
[04:11:39] <Bytram> Upon which are built our baser instincts? ;)
[04:11:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure but the propensity to have that sentiment itself was selected out as well, mostly
[04:12:14] <Bytram> so... did you actually watch the video?
[04:12:18] <AzumaHazuki> we're intelligent. we have culture and technology. the entire point of these things is to transcend the tyranny of evolution. Mother Nature is a vicious bloodthisty bitch
[04:12:44] * Bytram walks to his door and makes sure it is locked.
[04:13:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'true. really confuses me when city folks are all "protect the nature!!!". it's like they don't realize it's all fucking or eating each other.
[04:13:12] <Bytram> that said, it is late and it has been a long day...
[04:13:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gnight Bytram
[04:13:22] * exec skeptically culturally appropriates a bongload of non-alcoholic carbonated beverage from Bytram
[04:13:32] <Bytram> =g "why not both?"
[04:13:33] <systemd> https://knowyourmeme.com - Why Not Both? / Why Don't We Have Both? | Know Your Meme
[04:13:41] <Bytram> #yt "why not both?"
[04:13:41] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- Sicko Mode or Mo Bamba? Why Not Both?
[04:14:04] <Bytram> #yt "why not both?" taco
[04:14:04] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com -- Tune Rag or Flap Hat? Why don't we have both!
[04:14:07] <AzumaHazuki> nightnight Bytram
[04:14:17] <Bytram> ~gnight TheMightyBuzzard
[04:14:22] * exec faithfully whips up a bootload of wheat chex for TheMightyBuzzard
[04:14:23] <Bytram> ~gnight AzumaHazuki
[04:14:26] * exec [deleted] prepares a toilet bowl of procedural shits for AzumaHazuki
[04:14:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> what i wanna know though is why miley cyrus licks a hammer and it's art but if i do it i'm drunk and get thrown out of home depot again
[04:14:50] <AzumaHazuki> because what some people will call "art" is...shall we say, subjective at best
[04:15:19] <Bytram> =g bananas duct taped to a wall
[04:15:20] <systemd> https://www.nbcnews.com - Performance artist eats $120,000 banana duct-taped to wall, calls it ...
[04:15:47] <Bytram> and with that... I slip right on out of here!
[04:17:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i'm up past bedtime as well. just starting up the overnight queue of anime transcoding.
[04:18:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> TR's girl child has decided anime is her life, so i'm loading the media server up in spades.
[04:19:02] <AzumaHazuki> recommendation: do not show her Madoka Magica unless you want her to grow up to be a serial killer, or an accountant, or something equally cynical
[04:19:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, any recommendations for a newly teenaged girl child?
[04:19:25] <AzumaHazuki> Looney Tunes!
[04:20:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> started her on that as soon as she could focus
[04:20:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> classics + animaniacs
[04:20:51] <AzumaHazuki> truth be told i know very few anime and almost all of them are yuri
[04:21:16] <AzumaHazuki> that said, if you can find Aria the Animation, that's very nice and quiet, and clean enough to eat your supper off of
[04:22:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> honestly, i don't care if she watches yuri. keeping teenagers away from porn is like trying to sop up the atlantic with a hankey.
[04:22:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> but she can find it on her own
[04:22:41] <AzumaHazuki> most yuri isn't porn. it just means "there are women who love women in this"
[04:23:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> ah, it's a girl thing then. guys wouldn't see the point in lesbians unless there was nudity.
[04:23:58] <AzumaHazuki> seriously? like, no guy would watch it for relationship building or anything?
[04:24:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> (story + character development) || naked people
[04:24:53] <AzumaHazuki> You can have both...
[04:25:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> right, those are just the minimums
[04:25:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> we also accept humorous injuries and explosions
[04:26:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> but, yeah, you're not going to see us reading romance novels unless they have a stand-alone story and character development.
[04:27:37] <AzumaHazuki> Maria-sama ga Miteru maybe? That's mostly subtext but it's interesting to watch everyone grow and change over time
[04:27:49] <AzumaHazuki> Aria is nice, and much less dull
[04:28:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> me, i dig dakota cassidy's accidental friends series even if it is highly formulaic romance plotted. she's funny and it's a light read rather than taking itself seriously.
[04:28:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> and nina reminds me of you
[04:28:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> cheers
[04:28:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki++
[04:28:43] <Bender> karma - azumahazuki: 27
[04:28:54] * AzumaHazuki looks this up, is dreading this Nina character
[04:29:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> vampire, foul mouth, temper, extremely protective
[04:30:12] <AzumaHazuki> I'm not a vampire, thanks. And in meatspace I'm weirdly quiet and shy. more like a solid yuurei than a vampire
[04:30:49] <AzumaHazuki> oh lord, this? https://www.goodreads.com
[04:30:54] <systemd> ^ 03Accidentally Dead (Accidental Friends, #2)
[04:31:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> paranormal romance, so vampire is just necessary
[04:31:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> nod nod
[04:31:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> the whole series is straight up goofball, but so is dakota, so that makes perfect sense
[04:31:58] <AzumaHazuki> i'm not exactly hotblooded or foulmouthed beyond the occasional Slavic or Finnish swear in meatspace
[04:32:12] <AzumaHazuki> mostly i get told to stop staring, smile, and say something now and then
[04:32:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah but you got enough of the potential in ya to use around these parts
[04:33:16] <AzumaHazuki> i'd end up as some sort of odd psionic user or wizard rather than any sort of vampire etc
[04:33:42] <AzumaHazuki> actually that happens in dreams. i go lucid a lot and keep ending up in some kind of futuristic university with a serious monster problem
[04:34:18] <AzumaHazuki> apparently was brought in as a sort of scholarship student to due to, in the words of dream-Chelsea, "fighting like a cross between Sub-Zero and a scary, roided-out Sailor Mercury"
[04:34:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> try the first book or three out if you're looking for something to read after your test. quite relaxing.
[04:34:40] * TheMightyBuzzard blinks
[04:35:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> you have interesting dreams
[04:35:18] <AzumaHazuki> that is a fair assessment. in those dreams i tend to use a lot of scary cryokinesis, often followed by putting my boot through whatever abomination was trying to eat us
[04:36:16] <AzumaHazuki> also the things are apparently getting wise? last dream i was at a meeting where the presenter was saying the monsters were showing up in ablative armor or, in one case, had a spacetime rift connected to the surface of a small star inside
[04:37:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> you should write that crap down. if you can turn a phrase at all you could probably make a few bucks novelizing them.
[04:38:28] * AzumaHazuki mostly wants to know why she keeps showing up in the same place in these dreams and has done for 3+ years
[04:39:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> your subconscious is trolling you
[04:39:36] <AzumaHazuki> figures :v
[04:40:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> i know mine certainly does me. hell my conscious mind trolls me though, so that's no biggie.
[04:40:20] <AzumaHazuki> live by the troll, die...er, sleep by the troll? :V
[04:40:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> fair's fair.
[04:41:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> aight, i really gotta get some sleeps. 5am every day and hard work after coffee.
[04:42:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gnight AzumaHazuki
[04:42:06] * exec cromulently generates a small script that substitutes a buzz saw of null-terminated strings for AzumaHazuki
[05:37:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - OneWeb Launches its First Large Batch of Broadband Satellites, Plans March Launch and April Break - https://sylnt.us - Gives-new-meaning-to-World-Wide-Web
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[13:12:17] <Bytram> coffee++
[13:12:17] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5105
[13:42:09] <Bytram> break time
[14:22:07] <AndyTheAbsurd> boobs++
[14:22:07] <Bender> karma - boobs: 8
[14:34:11] <FatPhil> is that some kind of emoticon?
[14:56:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Airbus Unveils MAVERIC, a Technical Demonstrator to Test Blended Wing Bodies - https://sylnt.us - will-it-blend?
[15:01:33] <AndyTheAbsurd> so
[15:02:07] <AndyTheAbsurd> Remember a few years ago, somebody dropped a ZIP of scans of every Playboy centerfold?
[15:02:45] <FatPhil> A big fan of staples?
[15:03:14] <AndyTheAbsurd> Well, I put them as a slideshow on my tablet, and I swear that you can make a damned good guess about which decade they're from by the amount of bush visible in the shot.
[15:10:08] <FatPhil> I'm sure that's true.
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[17:19:32] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[17:19:33] <systemd> ^ 03South Park - Craig's Mom's bush song
[18:36:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Carbon Dioxide Emissions Defying Expectations - https://sylnt.us - did-you-check-to-turn-the-lights-off
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[19:16:22] <Bytram> .
[19:16:42] * Bytram needs a new thinking cap?
[19:21:34] <Bytram> I'm pretty sure that we ran a story on SN (likely a few years ago) which mentioned a web site. It basically allowed you to tweak some parameters and make different manga pictures... and I couldn't remember the name of the site.
[19:22:53] <Bytram> And, of course, things are found in the last place you look! Found it: https://make.girls.moe
[19:22:54] <systemd> ^ 03MakeGirlsMoe ( https://make.girls.moe )
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[19:29:45] <carny> https://www.bbc.co.uk
[19:29:46] <systemd> ^ 03Phone showcase cancelled over coronavirus fears
[19:31:45] <Bytram_> that's strange! my computer is still running (I think!) but the monitor just went completely black. powered monito off/on... no joy.
[19:32:39] <Bytram_> let's ping myself from my mobile and see if the lappy beeps!
[19:33:16] <Bytram_> Bytram: beep!
[19:34:28] <chromas> Any beep?
[19:34:51] <Bytram_> and... now my lappy immediately rebooted! this may take a while. :/
[19:35:03] <chromas> Windows updates?
[19:35:44] <Bytram_> laters!
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[19:41:49] <AndyTheAbsurd> There's a reason we refer to it as "Winblows".
[20:26:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - MWC Barcelona 2020: "Mobile World Congress" or "Most Won't Come"? - https://sylnt.us - making-a-major-mobile-mess
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[22:17:05] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - SpaceX Brings on NASA's Former top Spaceflight Official as it Prepares to Launch First Astronauts - https://sylnt.us - gravitas++