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[02:37:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Apple Reportedly Nixed Plan for End-to-End Encryption in IPhone Backups - https://sylnt.us - all-your-data-are-belong-to-us
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[03:37:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Nig nog == king kong, because the White man be weak, and the black man be strong.
[03:37:30] <Ethanol-fueled> Like a gorilla.
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[04:25:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Flight Through the Comet Chury's Dust Cloud Resolves Chemical Mystery - https://sylnt.us - chem-trails
[04:26:53] <carny> https://www.aljazeera.com
[04:26:54] <systemd> ^ Officials confirm first US case of coronavirus
[04:26:56] <carny> $ https://i.imgur.com
[04:27:02] <carny> oops
[04:27:29] <chromas> Ah, facebook memes
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[05:56:18] <carny> https://imgur.com
[05:56:19] <systemd> ^ Women Yelling at a cat
[05:56:42] <carny> expand all the comments so you don't miss the others that are just as good
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[06:17:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - DDoS Mitigation Firm Founder Admits to DDoS - https://sylnt.us - breaking-down-[fire]walls-to-drum-up-business
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[06:21:03] <aristarchus> So where am I banned from, again? SoylentNews needs to be transparent about shadowbanning! List the IPs, you cowards!
[06:21:59] <AzumaHazuki> ari, i wish you didn't troll so much :/ SN could really have used your pushback
[06:27:47] <aristarchus> Yes, I know, Hazuki-san. But we must all fight the fight we see. Most of what I do is invisible, to most eyes anyway.
[06:28:34] <AzumaHazuki> ...i can tell when it's you posting AC >>;
[06:28:40] <AzumaHazuki> you have a very distinct style
[06:31:55] <aristarchus> When I want you, and others, to think so. Runaway gets it wrong like 50% of the time.
[06:32:54] <AzumaHazuki> that senile old chickenhawk gets his left and right shoes wrong half the time. it's sad, watching someone turn into a walking stereotype in real time
[06:36:14] <aristarchus> True, that! But then, I have old friends, and realize that "old" is a very relative term for me, who have suffered much the same mental decline. Sympathy is in order.
[06:37:04] <AzumaHazuki> i have none left for people who've thrown themselves willingly into that sort of nihilism
[06:39:37] <aristarchus> The point is, they do not know they have thus thrown themselves! TMB considers himself completely justified, having abandoned his culture and its values for some libertarian fantasy. I do not know what to say to something like that.
[06:41:20] <AzumaHazuki> there isn't anything. what do you say to someone who willingly throws themself into a raging inferno?
[06:45:32] <aristarchus> Well,
[06:46:23] <aristarchus> "ow". generally. But you have to understand the politics of Oklahoma, to understand the TMB.
[06:48:36] <AzumaHazuki> I don't care any longer. some people i don't need to understand even assuming there were something coherent or comprehensible in there to begin with
[06:51:15] <aristarchus> OK, but you know, Azuma? The one thing that makes me upset, is when you go all talking suicidal. The planet needs you, and people like you. TMB seems to enjoy egging you on. Just stop. I have been in the fight for justice for close to 2400 years, the least you could do is stick around for a decade or two longer, to get the job done. And, it will be done.
[06:52:40] <AzumaHazuki> That's not coming from a place of unthinking emotion or depression. I am simply worn out well past my limit.
[06:53:18] <AzumaHazuki> I'll endure until world war 3 or civil war 2.0 starts, and people in my town are fighting and killing for bread. then i'm leaving this all behind on my own terms
[06:54:28] <aristarchus> Ha! I have watched you for some time, through some rough patches. You have resources you have not yet called upon! Like, carpentry?
[06:55:16] <AzumaHazuki> not really, no. i don't have the tools or experience for anything much
[06:55:42] <AzumaHazuki> besides which, ari, i'm tired, tired in ways no amount of sleep or vitamins can cure.
[07:00:52] <aristarchus> Did you not just recently produce a table or such? Do not underestimate yourself. I have lived through some really bad times, the Cholera epidemic in Alexandria, the invasion of the Longobards, Muslim invasion of Spain, the Black Death, the Thirty Years war, and the debut of the iPhone. And do you see me losing faith? People, good people, always rise up to keep the crazies in check. Have hope for the future.
[07:01:22] <AzumaHazuki> there's not enough of them, ari. and we're past too many tipping points
[07:02:57] <AzumaHazuki> besides which, i'm just worn out. too many friends have died needlessly or simply disappeared. too much time afraid for my safety, or actually homeless. too many injustices, to body or mind or soul.
[07:03:15] <aristarchus> Not true. We are just experiencing a backlash over having a Black President! Why do you think I waste my time posting all the idiocy of the alt-right? And complaining about the eds ignoriing it? It is because they will fail, and fail hard.
[07:04:25] <AzumaHazuki> you may as well just hack the place off the internet then. the admin team doesn't give a damn, the commentariat is loaded with that type
[07:07:03] <aristarchus> I am sorry for your experiences. I wish you did not go through them. But again, you seem to have the strength to not only survive, but to advocate for others. I, and many others, even here on SoylentNews, respect that.
[07:08:12] <AzumaHazuki> it's like dropping cherry pies into a black hole hoping that will make it less hungry
[07:08:37] <AzumaHazuki> you cannot reason with a fanatic. you cannot reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into
[07:09:44] <AzumaHazuki> our technology, our exponential force multipliers, have run too far ahead of our development as humans. we're passed too many tipping points. civilization as we know it is over, bar the screaming and the crying
[07:09:56] <aristarchus> So, what time is it where you are in the world, time-slipping sister? Perhaps time for some shut-eye, and a fresh view in the morning? Appreciate the chat, and I have been taking your criticisms of my methods to hear.
[07:10:35] <aristarchus> s/ hear/heart
[07:10:39] <AzumaHazuki> 2 AM Eastern standard time. Sleep...is necessary but not necessarily restful. it should not surprise you that i fight monsters in my sleep
[07:11:03] <AzumaHazuki> occasional bouts of lucidity allow me to win
[07:11:49] <aristarchus> I am on your side, sweet dreams, princess.
[07:12:07] <AzumaHazuki> uh...okay?
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[07:24:16] <FatPhil> yikes, seems I've come over all voyeurist
[07:29:02] <FatPhil> #weather Espoo
[07:29:04] <MrPlow> Villa Solkulla, Nupurintie, 02740 Espoo, Finland - Today: "Partly cloudy throughout the day." 36/28F, Humidity: 72%, Precip: 8%, Wind ~13mph. Thu: "Mostly cloudy throughout the day." 36/33F, Humidity: 81%, Precip: 23%, Wind ~8mph. Fri: "Foggy in the morning." 39/31F, Humidity: 90%, Precip: 28%, Wind ~7mph.
[07:29:39] <AzumaHazuki> why in frick is it warmer in finland than the northeast US
[07:32:37] <inz> Az, Föhn wind
[07:33:20] <inz> And climate change, I guess
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[07:34:02] <inz> #weather Tampere
[07:34:03] <MrPlow> Central Square Fountain, Central Square, Tampere, Finland - Today: "Partly cloudy throughout the day." 33/26F, Humidity: 74%, Precip: 18%, Wind ~11mph. Thu: "Foggy in the afternoon and evening." 32/30F, Humidity: 81%, Precip: 41%, Wind ~8mph. Fri: "Partly cloudy throughout the day." 36/30F, Humidity: 85%, Precip: 15%, Wind ~8mph.
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[07:35:12] <inz> I wonder why I checked that, as those Fahrenstupids still tell me nothing
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[08:05:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Native People Did Not Use Fire to Shape New England's Landscape - https://sylnt.us
[08:36:01] <FatPhil> inz: as long as there's a number near 32, it at least tells you something.
[08:37:14] <FatPhil> All hail the fahrensheitgebot.
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[09:56:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Internet Explorer Zero-Day Actively Exploited, Patch Forthcoming - https://sylnt.us
[10:01:41] <inz> FatPhil, yeah, the -32 part is quite easy, for small enough values of x, 5x/9 is close enough to x
[11:14:41] <Ghoul> #weather Moscow
[11:14:42] <MrPlow> Kremlin and Red Square, Moscow, Москворецкая улица, Садовники, Moscow, Russia, 109012 - Today: "Foggy starting in the afternoon." 35/24F, Humidity: 82%, Precip: 51%, Wind ~11mph. Thu: "Mostly cloudy throughout the day." 26/18F, Humidity: 76%, Precip: 42%, Wind ~10mph. Fri: "Possible flurries in the afternoon and evening." 35/32F, Humidity: 89%, Precip: 55%, Wind ~8mph.
[11:16:38] <Ghoul> Fahrenheit :(
[11:22:17] <FatPhil> fahrenheit--
[11:22:17] <Bender> karma - fahrenheit: -1
[11:55:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Sonos Will Stop Providing Software Updates for its Oldest Products in May - https://sylnt.us - sound-off!
[12:39:32] <AndyTheAbsurd> Time to reiterate my feelings on "smart" devices:
[12:40:24] <AndyTheAbsurd> If it can't be configured to talk to server that *I* run instead of servers that the manufacturer runs, it's not a smart device, it's a subscription service.
[12:49:57] <FatPhil> don't know if I know sonos or its products
[12:50:14] <FatPhil> none of my problems have it as the solution, I'd bet
[13:16:51] <FatPhil> RIP Terry Jones
[13:19:00] <janrinok> I hope he never stops laughing - he made me laugh many, many times
[13:28:58] <FatPhil> It was with members of Teddy Hall that I founded the O.U. Monty Python Appreciation Society all those years ago. We were always proud of the Oxonian contribution to the group, everyone always focusses on the Cantabridgians. I think my favourite was Palin, all in all.
[13:37:13] <FatPhil> Of course, the "7th Python" died only 3 weeks ago.
[13:39:55] <janrinok> I was about to mention something similar
[13:46:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hacker Leaks More Than 500K Telnet Credentials for IoT Devices - https://sylnt.us - the-"S"-in-IoT-is-for-security
[14:05:59] <AndyTheAbsurd> ...telnet? Ugh.
[14:10:31] <FatPhil> yeah, should use raw netcat
[14:11:44] <chopchop1> telnet is best net
[14:15:28] <FatPhil> Telnet Credentials =/= Steel-clad internet
[15:18:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://icanhazcheeseburger.com <---netcat
[15:19:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> cept it appears unresponsive at the moment
[15:19:51] <Runaway1956> Rawnet? You've been Goatse'd?
[15:20:14] <Runaway1956> poor FatPhil
[15:20:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> alternative feline networking fix: https://icanhas.cheezburger.com
[15:20:26] <systemd> ^ I Can Has Cheezburger?
[15:37:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Cousin Took a DNA Test? Courts Could Use it to Argue You are More Likely to Commit Crimes - https://sylnt.us - 60%-likely-is-40%-unlikely
[15:47:52] <Runaway1956> themightybuzzard - I just killed the cat lord (angband) so there may be fewer feline fixes in the future
[15:49:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's a misconception. all cats are the cat lord by their reckoning
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[17:27:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Y2038: It's a Threat - https://sylnt.us - here-we-go-again
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[19:16:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - World-Record-Breaking Boffins Reveal the Fastest Spinning Thing on Earth - https://sylnt.us - wheeee!
[20:22:42] * FatPhil bets that's an /el reg/ story
[20:23:18] <Sulla> Have public schools always been this shitty? They recently spent 80 million to rebuild two of our bigger elementary schools and they are still rated 2/10 for academics a few years later
[20:23:22] <Sulla> new shit =/ good education
[20:24:53] <boru> New schools won't be very useful if you can't expunge bad teachers.
[20:25:40] <AndyTheAbsurd> Expunging bad teachers won't be very useful if parents aren't interested in being sure that children get a proper education.
[20:25:59] <boru> Also valid.
[20:29:42] <FatPhil> spending money != improving
[20:30:12] <boru> That said, you can bring a horse to water, but you can't make them drink. Educational opportunities for all, castes for those that refuse it. Martial caste based utopia: education, mandatory military service or off to the mines with you.
[20:30:37] <FatPhil> third sons go to the church, no?
[20:30:51] <FatPhil> ~gday boru
[20:30:53] * exec begrudgingly heaps leathery sac of alcoholic carbonated beverage on boru
[20:31:00] <boru> ~gday FatPhil
[20:31:01] * exec explicitly pisses two fingers of void pointers on FatPhil
[20:31:10] <boru> I'll take it.
[20:31:19] <AndyTheAbsurd> Also, public schools have been shitty for 35+ years - my family moved in order to get my sister and I into a better school district in upstate NY when I was in 2nd grade. And I'm 42 now.
[20:31:24] <boru> How's it going, old chap? It's been some time.
[20:32:19] <AndyTheAbsurd> AP Newsflash: Chinese state media say the city of Wuhan is shutting down outbound flights and trains as the country battles the spread of a new virus that has sickened hundreds and killed 17.
[20:32:28] <FatPhil> has been, I've had weird hours, and when I've seen you active I've been trying to either drift off or wake and get up, or both.
[20:32:42] <boru> Speaking of alcoholic beverages, I think I'll have a glass of the brown stuff to shake the brown study.
[20:33:02] <boru> I'm not active much lately. Work and home projects have been keeping me very busy.
[20:33:41] <FatPhil> this window's always open, even if I don't say much, so I do see almost everything
[20:34:31] <Sulla> The twins are 5 now, normally do a half hour to an hour a day of arithmatic and text copying anyways. Intend on doing supplementary lessons when they are in school as well
[20:34:38] <boru> I review the scrollback every few days, so I probably miss a bit of it as it falls off the buffer.
[20:34:43] <Sulla> but its insane with how much money is being spent that my area has not a single school above a 6/10
[20:35:18] <Sulla> So gonna have to find a way to drop 12k/year on private school if i can't get into the single 7/10 school thats one town over
[20:36:07] <FatPhil> sulla: what does "getting into" that school demand?
[20:36:44] <FatPhil> can you just "cram" for it?
[20:37:23] <FatPhil> n.e. home made (from NE) beef jerky. wooooh, this is goooood
[20:38:01] <FatPhil> g/f's parents violate all kinds of food shipping laws!
[20:39:04] <boru> I'll swap you some for some Redbreast 12.
[20:39:38] <FatPhil> I did like Redbreast 12, but like most Whiskeys, it's soooooo vanillaey.
[20:39:59] <FatPhil> Connamara's the Irish for me (just the plain one)
[20:40:08] <boru> You reckon? I don't get vanilla anywhere between my nose and my throat.
[20:40:23] <boru> Really? I can't stand that peated stuff.
[20:40:29] <FatPhil> All Irish Whiskeys are packed with it.
[20:40:32] <boru> I like my single pot stills.
[20:40:37] <boru> They are in their arse packed with it.
[20:40:43] <FatPhil> anyway - go to bed telly time....
[20:40:53] <boru> Rgr. Catch you later.
[20:40:59] <Sulla> Its a public school. So its a ton of paperwork and hoping they let us in
[20:41:25] <Sulla> Some are lotteries where you have to get your name drawn
[20:41:53] <boru> Oversubscription?
[20:46:19] <Sulla> Yeah. So few schools are good that everyone wants in
[20:46:57] <boru> Yeah, that old chestnut.
[20:47:17] <Sulla> but the good ones limit themselves to a 1:12 or better
[21:06:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Dirt-cheap Nokia 2.3 comes to the US for just $129 - https://sylnt.us - frugal
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