#soylent | Logs for 2019-12-10
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[00:05:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Pirate Bay is Trialing High-Quality Video Streaming Links - https://sylnt.us - interesting-development
[00:08:48] <AzumaHazuki> okay, plov is in the slow steaming stage (1 of 2). smells absolutely freaking amazing
[00:09:26] * RandomFactor suspects his sub doesn't smell nearly as good
[00:11:14] <RandomFactor> Also, sharing is caring
[00:22:27] <RandomFactor> I took 1.4 MILLENIA off Fnord666's clock? "Fnord666 [351/2108] has challenged RandomFactor [296/432] and taken them in combat! 518904 days, 01:54:19 is removed from Fnord666's clock."
[00:23:00] <AzumaHazuki> the sub is way easier
[00:23:19] <AzumaHazuki> this, though, i can get 2-3 huge meals off of for fairly cheap. I estimate this cost about $4 or $5 to cook
[00:23:19] <SoyGuest10360> The patch to stop infinite (exponential) growth hasn't been pulled
[00:23:36] <AzumaHazuki> still a little high, but that's the price of meat mostly :/
[00:24:16] <SoyGuest10360> criminey, plov is the most terrible foodstuff ever. it's quite popular amongst the russian-speaking population here.
[00:24:49] <SoyGuest10360> the way it's influenced local paellas is terrible (it's made paellas terrible)
[00:25:24] <SoyGuest10360> fortunately there's a great peruvian restaurant (and chef) in town and he's not been influenced by the east.
[00:25:25] <RandomFactor> I make a somewhat random Nasi Goring, but it's tasty enough
[00:25:40] <RandomFactor> Haven't done it in a while tho
[00:26:25] <RandomFactor> goreng
[00:28:25] <SoyGuest10360> If I saw one in a mixed asian restaurant I might give that a try, as long as the slavic influence had been kept at bay.
[00:29:08] <SoyGuest10360> Yeah, I was gonna correct your typo.
[00:29:19] <SoyGuest10360> However, I was going to correct it to Nazi Goerring.
[00:30:17] <RandomFactor> AriSoyGuest10360
[00:32:46] <RandomFactor> Grandparents spent time in the Dutch East Indies around WWII era. Grandfather used to make it. I've never been able to duplicate what he did precisely though.
[00:33:34] <AzumaHazuki> i eat pretty much anything good. coming from a place populated mostly by south/southeast Chinese gives you a broad palate
[00:33:52] <AzumaHazuki> it's said of the people of Guangdong, "if it has two wings and is not an airplane, or four legs and it not a table, they will eat it."
[00:34:13] <AzumaHazuki> ...honestly, I think that's badass instead of insulting. it says thrift, creativity, and powerful digestion
[00:35:07] <RandomFactor> Yeah, I love trying new foods in general. Maybe i won't like it, but never know until you try
[00:35:48] <RandomFactor> You never know until you try - Jack Burton
[00:36:45] <Bytram> Don't get me wrong -- I like a good tasty meal once in a while -- but I'm more of a "Eat to live" kind of guy, rather than someone who "Lives to eat"
[00:38:38] <AzumaHazuki> well, me too, with the dieting and the intermittent fasting
[00:38:51] <RandomFactor> mostly too lazy and cheap to be much of an epicure
[00:39:11] <RandomFactor> fortunately my children are wealthy...
[00:39:12] <AzumaHazuki> it's like "okay I have 1800kcal and an 8 hour window to eat it in, which has to border before work and mid shift...how do i do this?"
[00:39:27] <Bytram> yuppers
[00:39:41] <AzumaHazuki> plus i'm all about making things as low-cost as possible while still being healthy and tasty
[00:39:50] <Bytram> still doing autophage?
[00:40:00] * Bytram hopes he remembered correctly
[00:40:04] <AzumaHazuki> yes, i fast 16-18 hours of the day
[00:40:27] <RandomFactor> I would get...cranky
[00:40:32] <AzumaHazuki> i do get cranky :v
[00:40:38] <AzumaHazuki> but lots of tea helps
[00:42:18] <Bytram> I normally go from dinner (sometime around 8-10pm) until 1-2pm (or so) before I have my next meal... is that long enough?
[00:42:18] <AzumaHazuki> that stint in the shelter shot me back up to just over 150lb...want to get back down to ~140
[00:42:42] <AzumaHazuki> iirc 13 hours is the onset and 16+ is best
[00:43:12] <Bytram> so, 8pm to noon would be 16 hours.
[00:43:48] <Bytram> Good to know. Thanks!
[00:43:49] <AzumaHazuki> yup. i do about 3:15 PM to about 8:15 AM the next day
[00:43:58] <RandomFactor> Are you allowed to bloat yourself at 8pm? Or does that defeat the purpose?
[00:44:19] <AzumaHazuki> eh...eating it all at once (OMAD) seems to work well for a lot of people
[00:44:27] <AzumaHazuki> i imagine at worst it would just slow you down a little
[00:44:29] * Bytram does not like feeling 'stuffed' -- lows me down to much
[00:44:40] <Bytram> *slows
[00:45:02] <Bytram> =g OMAD
[00:45:03] <systemd> https://www.goodhousekeeping.com - What Is the OMAD Diet? How Eating One Meal a Day Works for ...
[00:45:07] <AzumaHazuki> i usually split it about 40:60 between "before work" and "short 15 minute break a couple hours before end of shift"
[00:45:16] <Bytram> Huh? Oh!
[00:45:57] <RandomFactor> Seems like your stomach would inevitably shrink, reducing the one meal size also
[00:46:01] <Bytram> How long can that one meal last? Given enough courses, could prolly get that up to 2-3 hours!
[00:46:24] <Bytram> depends how much one eats during that one meal.
[00:47:06] <AzumaHazuki> OMAD is a little insane. I've done it by accident on cheat days just because that one cheat meal was so heavy but...ehhh...
[00:47:16] <Bytram> yep
[00:47:38] <Bytram> Two meals a day is pretty much my norm, most days.
[00:47:58] <AzumaHazuki> this stuff is especially hard to do when you do shift work and are poor. it takes some real ingenuity
[00:48:10] <Bytram> shiftwork--
[00:48:10] <Bender> karma - shiftwork: -1
[00:48:11] <AzumaHazuki> i know i don't get enough vegetables for example
[00:48:46] <RandomFactor> Breakfast 6:30a, Lunch 11:30, Dinner 6:00
[00:48:49] <Bytram> one would think veggies would be cheaper than other stuff, but does not seem to work out in practice.
[00:49:02] <RandomFactor> Assuming work doesn't randomize my lunch schedule because the feel like it
[00:49:42] <AzumaHazuki> Bytram: yeah, that drives me fucking nuts. the only stuff that's cheap is processed grain
[00:49:49] <Bytram> I take that back, depending on time of year I can get 10lbs of potatoes for anywhere from $3-5
[00:50:05] <AzumaHazuki> potatoes aren't a vegetable, really...not nutritionall
[00:50:13] <Bytram> vitamin c
[00:50:45] <AzumaHazuki> well...plov here is full of carrots and onions, and i left in the entire head of steamed garlic
[00:50:49] <Bytram> sure ain't meat. or grain. or nuts. or dairy.
[00:50:58] <Bytram> carrots++
[00:50:58] <Bender> karma - carrots: 1
[00:51:22] <AzumaHazuki> everything's so fucked up when it comes to food. i think i have some serious issues with it...
[00:51:36] <RandomFactor> That which sustains me, destroys me.
[00:51:47] <AzumaHazuki> like remembering when i was just over 200lb, uuuuugh. and remembering all the times i had to eat from dumpsters and trash cans...
[00:51:59] <Bytram> uuugh.
[00:52:43] <AzumaHazuki> the lizard brain panics. it's convinced that will happen again, and tries to make me overeat
[00:53:09] <Bytram> yep.
[00:53:38] <AzumaHazuki> on top of that, i am a ridiculously stereotypical Cancer, which means "if you love someone feed them." Thamkfully my orgo and pharm background adds "...nutritious, healthy food in proper proportions"
[00:53:41] <Bytram> there was one time I got to about 20 lbs over my usual weight (medication side-effect boosted hunger)
[00:54:16] <Bytram> felt like I was carrying around 20 lbs of dead weight all day and made me sluggish.
[00:54:48] <AzumaHazuki> that sounds awful, yeah. even with the extra 10lb or so (and I'm still well within healthy limits for a 5'10" woman) i feel gross
[00:54:53] <Bytram> tried to keep busy between meals, was patient with myself that I might get "hangry" and try to be mindful of that.
[00:55:22] <Bytram> took a few months (IIRC) and am now back to my usual weight.
[00:56:16] <Bytram> speaking of food, I should get some. Prolly something easy like peanut butter sandwich
[00:56:23] <Bytram> afk biab
[00:56:30] <RandomFactor> with bananas
[00:56:58] <RandomFactor> Peanut Butter, Marshmellow Creme, and Banana sammich is the bomb
[00:57:08] <AzumaHazuki> sounds like what killed Elvis
[00:57:19] <Bytram> touche'
[00:57:21] <RandomFactor> He didn't add the marshmellow creme
[00:57:48] * AzumaHazuki deals with hunger a lot, but tries to think of it as a sort of meditation on solidarity with those who REALLY suffer, and a way of keeping her past in similar situations in mind
[00:58:02] <AzumaHazuki> i do spend a lot of the day feeling acid-y and hangry sometimes
[00:58:31] <Bytram> and grateful for a meal when I do have one.
[00:59:02] <RandomFactor> yep. starving is good for you, but it stinks.
[00:59:24] <Bytram> everything in moderation, including moderation
[01:00:01] <AzumaHazuki> yeah...definitely some issues with food here ><
[01:00:25] <Bytram> ok, this time for sure!
[01:00:27] <Bytram> afk
[01:00:34] <AzumaHazuki> i've decided the best thing i can do to honor others and myself is to eat cleanly, cheaply, with low waste, and mindfully
[01:05:32] <chromas> Yo dawg! https://www.neowin.net
[01:05:33] <systemd> ^ 03Gmail now lets you attach emails to your emails
[01:06:13] <RandomFactor> Hrmmm, useful in a 90s sort of way
[01:10:00] <AzumaHazuki> yo dawg, etc etc
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[01:41:27] <RandomFactor> 'Sup R
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[01:46:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Storing Data in Everyday Objects - https://sylnt.us - DIY
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[02:15:16] <soybull> /nick guy
[02:39:58] <chromas> https://go.theregister.co.uk
[02:39:59] <systemd> ^ 03Internet jerk with million-plus fans starts 14-year stretch for bizarre dot-com armed robbery ( https://www.theregister.co.uk )
[03:17:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - This Photo Proves How The Hellfire Missile That Uses Blades Instead Of Explosives Works - https://sylnt.us - sharks-with-frickin-swords-on-their-heads
[04:47:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - That Time Benjamin Franklin Tried (and Failed) to Electrocute a Turkey - https://sylnt.us - shocking
[06:16:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Oculus Quest Becomes First VR Set With Native Hand Tracking - https://sylnt.us - flipping-the-virtual-bird
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[07:56:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 'I Was Addicted to Exercise' - https://sylnt.us - taken-to-extremes
[09:25:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - CRISPR-Resistant Viruses Build 'Safe Rooms' to Shield Genomes From DNA-Dicing Enzymes - https://sylnt.us - safe-spaces
[10:56:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - World's First Human Composting Site to Open - https://sylnt.us - real-dirt-nap
[11:00:15] <Bytram> coffee++
[11:00:15] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5054
[11:00:47] * Bytram has been up for 3 hours already and time to head to a very early day at work
[11:00:58] <Bytram> well, get ready for same.
[11:02:12] <Bytram> afk
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[12:36:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Windows 10 October 2018 Update Users are Being Forced to Upgrade – Ready or Not - https://sylnt.us - what's-the-hurry?
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[13:55:31] <AndyTheAbsurd> My Pale Moon just updated. First item in the changelog: Added support for modern Solaris operating systems like Illumos (thanks Athenian200!)
[14:07:01] <SoyGuest10360> not often you see the words "modern" and "solaris" in the same sentence
[14:17:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity - https://sylnt.us
[15:39:59] <carny> isn't that from a week or 2 ago?
[15:52:29] <SoyGuest10360> More like half a decade ago, and they voted for brexit
[15:53:47] <carny> more like they voted under false pretenses but they forced the community to join the eu anyway
[15:54:11] <carny> and they're holding a referendum now but the choices are all versions of remain
[16:06:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Australia Burns Turning Sydney into Smog Covered Scene from Hell - https://sylnt.us - There-Is-No-Such-Thing-As-Climate-Change
[16:14:09] <SoyGuest10360> if you're referring back to the 70s, were were already in, it was effectively a vote to leave, and there was a 2:1 "no, we like where europe's going" vote.
[16:15:26] <SoyGuest10360> or are you referring to the systemd bit rather than the brexit bit
[16:15:32] <SoyGuest10360> need coffee
[16:20:27] <SoyGuest10360> nd. coffee
[16:20:32] <SoyGuest10360> coffee++
[16:20:32] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5055
[16:23:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://www.ghacks.net
[16:23:44] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[16:24:10] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[16:25:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> fatphil, well of course. systemd's even worse than europe =P
[16:26:28] <SoyGuest10360> I know a lot of people who have benefitted from [insert one of the above], even though I personally haven't.
[16:27:04] <SoyGuest10360> However, [insert the other one of the above] has been absolutely fantastic for me, I really don't see any weight in other people's objections.
[16:29:20] <SoyGuest10360> As we've beginning to get less young, the idea of where we might end our days has started to become more relevant. I did put forward the argument that I might want to go senile in a country where I don't need to worry about using a foreign language, and English will suffice, and 'er indoors responded "they speak better English here than in the UK"...
[16:30:20] * TheMightyBuzzard posts probably the only comment he's going to post today
[16:30:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://soylentnews.org
[16:30:24] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | Debian Developers Take to Voting Over Init System Diversity ( https://soylentnews.org )
[16:32:26] <SoyGuest10360> I guess I could post something today too
[16:39:58] <SoyGuest10360> OK, 2. Neither of any value apart from lulz, but that's all I can manage today.
[16:48:27] <SoyGuest10360> Wow, JMH is playing 6-dimensional meme chess.
[16:48:58] <SoyGuest10360> I'm not sure some of his moves are even in the rules, and don't even recognise half of the pieces.
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[17:05:22] <SoyGuest10360> https://kuvaton.com
[17:29:46] <AndyTheAbsurd> gun in the background for EXTRA MANLINESS, I see.
[17:35:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> use bacon grease instead of gun oil for ultra manliness
[18:06:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Buyer of Used Hard Disks Gets 27TB of Government Data - https://sylnt.us - that's-a-big-easter-egg
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[18:33:28] <Anonymous_Coward> =submit https://www.bleepingcomputer.com
[18:33:30] <systemd> Submitting "FBI Recommends Securing Your Smart TVs and IoT Devices"...
[18:33:52] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "FBI Recommends Securing Your Smart TVs and IoT Devices" (16 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[19:34:48] -!- mode/#soylent [+v fyngyrz] by Aphrodite
[19:46:10] <chromas> The systemd options enumeration reminds of that time we voted on a name for sn
[19:50:14] <AndyTheAbsurd> 19:49:35 <@irccd> Myth: systemd's use of D-Bus instead of sockets makes it intransparent
[19:57:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Advertisers Want Exemption From Web Privacy Rules That, You Know, Enforce Privacy - https://sylnt.us - you-are-in-a-maze-of-twisty-little-privacy-settings,-all-different
[20:06:59] <chromas> is intransparent not unlike opaque?
[20:09:38] <chromas> Also, dbus runs over sockets. Checkmate, atheists!
[20:21:54] <AndyTheAbsurd> It's basically Chuck Norris Facts but about systemd instead.
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[20:59:40] <FatPhil> Poettering Facts #69) When systemd inits your system, you'll not be able to shutdown for a week.
[21:11:39] <chromas> Not true at all. The wait time is 1:30
[21:11:43] <chromas> 3:00
[21:11:47] <chromas> 6:00
[21:12:08] <chromas> 12:00
[21:15:45] <chromas> 36:00
[21:22:28] <chromas> https://97rockonline.com
[21:22:28] <systemd> ^ 03Utah May Make it Illegal for Cops to Masturbate in Their Cars
[21:47:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Neurodegenerative Diseases May be Caused by Transportation Failures Inside Neurons - https://sylnt.us - can't-get-there-from-here
[21:48:22] * FatPhil even /nick'ed up so someone could !grab him - grrrr. I'm underappreciated here, obviously.
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[21:53:12] * chromas tortures FatPhil by not !grabbing
[21:53:54] <FatPhil> you will feel my wrath
[22:06:14] <chromas> !grab FatPhil
[22:06:14] <Bender> Added quote 928
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[23:04:48] <FatPhil> https://www.youtube.com
[23:04:50] <systemd> ^ 03Virtual reality junkies are addicted to a shooter game. But there's a glitch.
[23:12:05] <FatPhil> very /black mirror/
[23:12:13] <chromas> from the comments, "I just realized if this really happened you'd have robots out there t-bagging corpses and blowing themselves up in hilarious ways."
[23:13:06] <FatPhil> https://en.wikipedia.org
[23:13:08] <systemd> ^ 03Men Against Fire - Wikipedia
[23:13:19] <FatPhil> ^ = Black Mirror episode
[23:14:00] <FatPhil> I liked it, so I thought I'd share.
[23:14:32] <FatPhil> ANyway, last telly of the night is gonna be South Park, because reasons.
[23:15:19] <FatPhil> Anyone watching the Space Nazis on Amazon, Season 4 has just appeared?
[23:16:03] <FatPhil> Saw S04E01 tonight, and they've introduced a whole load of shit that wasn't there at the end of S03 - are they trying to confuse me?
[23:19:49] <chromas> Before the Black Mirror episode, there was Toys
[23:36:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Pentagon's $10BN Jedi Decision 'Risky for the Country and Democracy,' Says AWS CEO Jassy - https://sylnt.us - sour-grapes?
[23:40:15] <FatPhil> Toys?
[23:40:51] <FatPhil> S.P. was nicely meta, I'm glad they could get away with using real names/logos.
[23:40:53] <chromas> with Robbin Williams
[23:41:16] <chromas> Oops, I Pd too much
[23:41:21] <chromas> or Bd
[23:41:34] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[23:41:35] <systemd> ^ 03The Un-Reality of Nathan For You
[23:41:36] <FatPhil> Oh, that's turned my interestometer from hi to lo-to-negative
[23:43:56] <FatPhil> https://www.metacritic.com
[23:43:59] <systemd> ^ 03Toys
[23:44:20] <FatPhil> Oh, fuck - "chatterbox" - I would hate that movie more than I hate things I really hate.
[23:44:58] <chromas> Sounds like you have to watch it now
[23:49:14] * FatPhil ramps up that wrath
[23:49:56] <FatPhil> I've only ever liked one thing that R.W. has been in, as in everything else I've seen he won't shut the FUCK UP and get out of my FUCKING FACE!
[23:51:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> mork and mindy?
[23:51:17] <FatPhil> And that single thing was this: https://www.imdb.com
[23:51:19] <systemd> ^ 03"Homicide: Life on the Street" Bop Gun (TV Episode 1994) - IMDb ( https://www.imdb.com )
[23:51:22] <chromas> Well anyhow, a subplot is having kids playing vidya games while unknowingly controlling rC warcraft
[23:52:41] <FatPhil> Ender's Game?
[23:52:45] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[23:52:45] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[23:53:07] <chromas> probably
[23:53:12] <chromas> I thought that was about chess though
[23:53:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net
[23:53:34] <FatPhil> 1985 the novel by O.S.C
[23:54:42] <FatPhil> And no, it's about Harrison Ford hating every fucking minute he spends in front of a camera, and wanting everyone to know it.
[23:55:01] <FatPhil> Well, that's what I took away from the movie.
[23:55:14] <chromas> So every movie since halfway through the star wars holiday special
[23:55:57] <FatPhil> not sure when the S.W. hols special was, but the Ender's Game movie was recentish
[23:56:19] <FatPhil> since I've lived in this flat, so <5 years.