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[01:56:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Discovering Hidden Plant Medicines On Your Doorstep - https://sylnt.us - quick-before-someone-patents-them
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[04:18:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Genetic Discovery Holds Implications for Better Immunity, Longer Life - https://sylnt.us
[05:18:57] <chromas> =folding
[05:19:11] <chromas> =folding-rank
[05:19:12] <systemd> 223
[05:19:32] <chromas> Getting a different number that what RandomFactor's getting
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[06:36:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Study Looks to Biological Enzymes as Source of Hydrogen Fuel - https://sylnt.us
[07:05:03] <SoyGuest72711> folding sux
[07:05:36] <SoyGuest72711> nothing visible without javascript arserape to the max
[07:09:27] <chromas> anyone else get a 404? http://www.qemu-advent-calendar.org
[07:09:27] <systemd> ^ 03404 Not Found
[07:22:52] <SoyGuest72711> that's weird
[07:22:59] <SoyGuest72711> I just get a redirect to http://fatphil.org
[07:23:00] <systemd> ^ 03404 Not Found
[07:36:07] <Bytram> RandomFactor: I don't know where you are getting your F@H stats from, but I see us at 223rd place (atm) on their official site: https://apps.foldingathome.org
[07:36:08] <systemd> ^ 03Folding@home team 230319 stats
[07:36:32] <Bytram> As way of confirmation, check out:
[07:36:33] <Bytram> https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com
[07:36:33] <systemd> ^ 03404 Not Found
[07:36:41] <Bytram> and
[07:36:42] <Bytram> https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com
[07:36:42] <systemd> ^ 03404 Not Found
[07:38:14] <Bytram> we are just a few days away from breaking through 1 billion points!
[07:39:46] <Bytram> at which point we should be at 221st place...
[07:40:12] <Bytram> barring any surprises, ISTM we should break 220th place within a week or so.
[07:42:03] <Bytram> anyway just checking in to see how things were going. Slept a few hours after a 17+ hour shift on Black Friday, but could use some more Zzzzz's before I at to be at work again in a bit over 4 hours.
[07:43:34] * Bytram heads off to bed
[08:28:50] <chromas> oh noes https://arstechnica.com
[08:28:53] <systemd> ^ 03Despite clear warnings, Europe is out of IP addresses
[08:29:57] <chromas> We run out of IPv4 addies almost as often as revolutionary ten-fold battery capacity tech is invented.
[08:36:01] <SoyGuest72711> nope
[08:36:13] <SoyGuest72711> as often as voyager leaves the solar system
[08:36:16] <SoyGuest72711> get it right
[08:47:59] <chromas> Good point
[08:48:19] <chromas> it's like communism
[08:48:34] <chromas> "It wasn't the real edge of the solar system"
[08:48:58] * chromas injects politics where it's unneeded
[08:54:34] <SoyGuest72711> As a true scotsman, let me divert things away from politics and onto a less contentious issue...
[08:54:56] <SoyGuest72711> religion.
[08:55:10] <chromas> jesus, dude
[08:55:16] <SoyGuest72711> The bible is 100% true.
[08:55:23] <SoyGuest72711> Or at least one verse of it is
[08:55:27] <chromas> I know. It says it is
[08:55:28] <SoyGuest72711> when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him.
[08:55:56] <SoyGuest72711> Now that's an open and shut case, IMHO.
[08:56:06] <chromas> B-bbut that invalidates parts of the bible
[08:56:11] <SoyGuest72711> Double-barrel, right at your own tootsies.
[08:56:40] <chromas> =yt edward current checkmate
[08:56:41] <systemd> https://youtube.com - Checkmate, Atheists! (3:32)
[08:58:29] <SoyGuest72711> every time I hear "checkmate", I think of Davie504
[08:59:22] <chromas> Do you SLAPP?
[08:59:42] <SoyGuest72711> Right now!
[09:00:12] <SoyGuest72711> Fuck me, that vid's fantastic!
[09:00:18] <SoyGuest72711> chromas++
[09:00:18] <Bender> karma - chromas: 267
[09:01:52] <chromas> Now you have to go on a spree
[09:02:07] <SoyGuest72711> but I know what else is shaped that way
[09:02:38] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[09:02:39] <systemd> ^ 03Thy Rod, Thy Staff: Erections & Sin
[09:22:52] <SoyGuest72711> oooh, I just came: https://www.youtube.com
[09:22:53] <systemd> ^ 03Carbon Nanotube Yarn with Nylon Insulation
[09:28:28] <chromas> needs some high-fps slomos
[09:34:31] <SoyGuest72711> Anyone get any bytes from this: http://www.roadsideamerica.com
[09:34:36] <systemd> ^ 03Muffler Men ( https://www.roadsideamerica.com )
[09:34:46] <SoyGuest72711> 403 ERROR
[09:34:46] <SoyGuest72711> The request could not be satisfied.
[09:34:48] <SoyGuest72711> The Amazon CloudFront distribution is configured to block access from your country.
[09:35:03] <SoyGuest72711> ..|.,
[09:39:53] <chromas> gdpr?
[09:40:43] <SoyGuest72711> Ze German Demokratische People's Republik, jah?
[09:41:50] <chromas> Sí
[09:43:18] <SoyGuest72711> Tryna stalk g/f's family on their way back from hols - they sent us this photo: http://theanna.org
[09:43:49] <SoyGuest72711> So I was wondering if it was a known roadside fibreglass statue type thing.
[09:44:10] <SoyGuest72711> wikipedia page on muffler men does not list it.
[09:45:11] <SoyGuest72711> plenty of cowboys, no cows.
[09:46:01] <SoyGuest72711> oooh,. I see "Kentucky" on one of the signs
[09:47:26] <SoyGuest72711> ficking 403 on this too: www.roadsideamerica.com/tip/44037
[09:51:34] <Runaway1956> www.roadsideamerica.com/tip/44037 is a silly big cow statue in Kentucky
[09:51:53] <Runaway1956> I guess the big thing about the cow, is that she is wearing a pair of pink sunglasses
[09:53:11] <Runaway1956> soooooo - why you stalking?
[09:55:39] <Runaway1956> Muffler Men
[09:55:39] <Runaway1956> Roadside America: A tribe of titans, made of fiberglass and 14 to 25 feet tall, stands watch along the vibrant roadside landscape. They include lumberjacks, cowboys, and Indians, but the first statues we spotted held big car mufflers, so we named them "Muffler Men."
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[09:57:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Linux Professional Institute Releases BSD Specialist Certification - https://sylnt.us - we-are-of-one-family
[09:57:54] <SoyGuest72711> because we got an email about their trip home from FL, and they decided to share that photo with us, but not tell us where it was taken.
[09:58:59] <Runaway1956> I closed the window, but it's some little town in Kentucky, starts with a G - Guelph or something like that
[09:59:00] <SoyGuest72711> TN/KY border would be right on route, so I reckon I've found 'em.
[09:59:45] <SoyGuest72711> ``kentucky fibreglass cow'' finds Guthrie
[09:59:54] <chromas> Quoth the site, 10400-10464 Russellville Rd, Guthrie, KY Just north of the KY/TN border, east side of US Hwy 79 before US Hwy 41.
[10:00:03] <Runaway1956> Isn't that where 'Deliverance' was filmed?
[10:00:17] <SoyGuest72711> even with ze silly frenchy spelling, hoh-he-hoh
[10:00:41] <Runaway1956> Maybe that's where Arlo Guthrie came from?
[10:01:01] <Runaway1956> Him and Woody Guthrie
[10:04:07] <SoyGuest72711> He's an Okey, isn't he?
[10:04:41] <Runaway1956> Not sure, but he may have been born while parents were on a road trip
[10:04:58] <Runaway1956> Funny how people claim to be this or that
[10:05:00] <SoyGuest72711> or conceived there - a la Paris Hilton
[10:05:18] <SoyGuest72711> Bloody Communist! https://en.wikipedia.org
[10:05:19] <systemd> ^ 03This machine kills fascists - Wikipedia
[10:05:23] <Runaway1956> Wife and I live in Arkansas, but youngest son was born on the Texas side of the state line
[10:05:30] <Runaway1956> he has always claimed to be a Texan
[10:06:36] <Runaway1956> Wonder if I could get in trouble with a human rights court somewhere? Harboring a Texan?
[10:07:03] <SoyGuest72711> "Woodrow Wilson Guthrie" - you're shitting me?
[10:07:21] <Runaway1956> What?
[10:07:33] <SoyGuest72711> That's his real name?!?!?
[10:07:36] <chromas> If he makes sure everyone knows he's a Texan, he might be a real Texan
[10:07:42] <Runaway1956> He shoulda run for Prez!
[10:08:15] <SoyGuest72711> Just like everything in the US, named after something else ;-p
[10:08:34] <Runaway1956> as for the son, he's another Arkie in my mind, albeit, a very intelligent Arkie
[10:08:46] <SoyGuest72711> ooooh - you went there!
[10:10:38] <SoyGuest72711> One of my shitlord traits (there are 10^12 of them, don't get me to list them all), is to deliberately pronounce the second 's' in Arkansas.
[10:11:08] <Runaway1956> Kansas, Arnkansas - right?
[10:11:15] <Runaway1956> sp
[10:11:23] <SoyGuest72711> For free, I'll warn you that I also deliberately put the second 'c' back into Connecticut
[10:12:00] <SoyGuest72711> I'm with Noah
[10:12:14] <SoyGuest72711> If you don't say it, don't write it.
[10:12:21] <SoyGuest72711> Hmm, that should probably be "rite".
[10:12:25] <Runaway1956> Back to Arkansas, I moved here to help with the inbreeding problem, and raised the average intelligence of the state by 10 points when I did so
[10:12:37] <SoyGuest72711> And the state you left
[10:12:39] <SoyGuest72711> tish boom
[10:12:49] <Runaway1956> when the son left Arkansas, he brought that average intelligence back down by 6 points
[10:13:00] <Runaway1956> little fucker is super smart
[10:13:29] <Runaway1956> with an IQ over 150, he just couldn't bring himself to live here for the rest of his life
[10:13:42] <SoyGuest72711> ditto g/f
[10:13:56] <Runaway1956> so, now, he's in Bumfuck, Arizona, LOL
[10:14:54] <SoyGuest72711> Isn't that where 'Deliverance' was filmed?
[10:15:24] <Runaway1956> Arizona? No way - their collective IQ would have to be chopped in half
[10:15:46] <Runaway1956> A couple times, actually
[10:17:38] <SoyGuest72711> I know nothing about Arizona, to be honest.
[10:17:45] <SoyGuest72711> Desert. OK, I know that.
[10:18:25] <Runaway1956> We stole it from Mexico, then later tried to give it back, but they don't want it.
[10:18:26] <SoyGuest72711> was just a bit too far west to fit into g/f's US road trip last year
[10:19:35] <SoyGuest72711> Mexico, as in "New Spain"?
[10:20:23] <Runaway1956> Also, the western border of Arizona marks the end of the United States of America - crossing the Colorado river puts you in Commiefornia.
[10:22:36] <SoyGuest72711> Runaway1956++ for Commiefornia
[10:22:36] <Bender> karma - runaway1956: 17
[10:23:15] <SoyGuest72711> So, you're waiting for "the big one"?
[10:23:53] <Runaway1956> Mehhhh - not really - it's been promised for a long time, it will probably be a long time before it happens
[10:23:55] <chromas> seismically-induced calexit?
[10:24:24] <SoyGuest72711> califuckoffia?
[10:24:32] <Runaway1956> with continental drift, it's far more likely that part of the Pacific ocean floor will be heaved upward, making commiefornia even larger
[10:24:42] <chromas> fuuuuuuu
[10:25:16] <chromas> we don't need more of 'em
[10:25:25] <Runaway1956> It could become the biggest state if that happens, even bigger than Alaska
[10:26:21] <SoyGuest72711> they'll be tipped up, and roll into NV, AZ
[10:27:03] <SoyGuest72711> don't underestimate how big AK is
[10:27:25] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.rt.com
[10:27:27] <systemd> Submitting "Facebook issues first-ever ‘fake news’ correction to user post under pressure from Singapore govt"...
[10:27:39] <SoyGuest72711> https://www.alaska.org
[10:27:49] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Facebook Issues First-ever ‘fake News’ Correction to User Post Under Pressure From Singapore Gov" (7 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:27:57] <Runaway1956> You could fit Texas inside of Alaska, and have room for three or more other states
[10:28:34] <SoyGuest72711> indeedy
[10:30:00] <SoyGuest72711> https://www.zerohedge.com
[10:30:01] <systemd> ^ 03673 Million People Still Defecate Outdoors (Not Just In San Francisco)
[10:30:22] <SoyGuest72711> maybe I should restrict such postings to #shitlords
[10:30:32] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.foxnews.com
[10:30:33] <systemd> Submitting "Ilhan Omar's GOP challenger blasts Twitter after account suspended over 'treason' tweet"...
[10:30:55] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Ilhan Omar's GOP Challenger Blasts Twitter After Account Suspended Over 'treason' Tweet" (32 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:31:15] * systemd weeps for her rejection rate
[10:33:43] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.reuters.com
[10:33:44] <systemd> Submitting "New Zealand gun owners stage protest over tighter controls"...( 1 modified urls; https://www.reuters.com )
[10:34:04] <Runaway1956> all is not well in zet land
[10:34:06] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "New Zealand Gun Owners Stage Protest Over Tighter Controls" (8 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:34:16] <SoyGuest72711> oooh - https://www.zerohedge.com
[10:34:17] <systemd> ^ 03Virginia Gun Owners Could Face Felony Charges Under New 'Paramilitary Activities' Amendment
[10:37:17] <Runaway1956> The amendment is unconstitutional on it's face
[10:37:29] <SoyGuest72711> woh, there's some big conspiracy theory shit going on in that Omar story
[10:37:31] <Runaway1956> Americans are permitted, even encouraged, to join militias
[10:37:47] <Runaway1956> Well, Omar isn't American, she's Muslim
[10:38:03] <SoyGuest72711> Runaway1956 - you do realise that *all of your constitutional amendments* were unconstitutional at the time.
[10:38:06] <chromas> shitlord detected
[10:38:12] <SoyGuest72711> <-----
[10:38:50] <Runaway1956> ????? The same people who wrote the contitution were mostly responsible for our first amendments
[10:38:51] <SoyGuest72711> /away food and telly
[10:39:00] <Runaway1956> later
[10:40:18] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.9news.com.au
[10:40:19] <systemd> Submitting "London Bridge stabbing: More details emerge about alleged attacker Usman Khan"...
[10:40:32] <Runaway1956> Not only a Muslim but a known Muslim terrorist
[10:40:41] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "London Bridge Stabbing: More Details Emerge About Alleged Attacker Usman Khan" (1 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[10:41:08] <chromas> is it like the rapes where they didn't want to report it because they didn't want to be racis?
[10:41:25] <SoyGuest72711> shut up, white male
[10:41:54] <chromas> wrong, sir! wrong!
[10:41:58] <Runaway1956> kinda like that, "You couldn't have been raped by an Arab, because you're white!"
[10:42:02] <chromas> it's "you're fucking a white male!"
[10:50:48] <Runaway1956> https://www.foxnews.com
[10:50:48] <systemd> ^ 03Democrats seeking impeachment 'off ramp' as constituents turn up heat, GOP's Andy Biggs says
[10:59:19] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.zerohedge.com
[10:59:20] <systemd> Submitting "The Rush To A Cashless Society Only Serves Globalist Interests"...
[10:59:42] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "The Rush To A Cashless Society Only Serves Globalist Interests" (31 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[11:04:29] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.zerohedge.com
[11:04:31] <systemd> Submitting "Some Countries Are Just Prone To Scientific Fraud. So Are Their Immigrants To The West"...
[11:04:53] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Some Countries Are Just Prone To Scientific Fraud. So Are Their Immigrants To The West" (55 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[11:06:36] <SoyGuest72711> Runaway1956 - those belong on #shitlords, not SN!
[11:11:48] <chromas> He doesn't know about the über zecret channel
[11:11:59] <chromas> Perhaps we need a shitlords nexus too
[11:12:36] <chromas> shitlords.soybois.org
[11:21:01] * SoyGuest72711 slaps like
[11:21:37] * chromas picks
[11:21:58] <SoyGuest72711> ur dead
[11:22:01] * SoyGuest72711 plays taps
[11:25:20] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.nytimes.com
[11:25:21] <systemd> Submitting "How Spices Have Made, and Unmade, Empires"...
[11:25:43] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "How Spices Have Made, and Unmade, Empires" (17 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[11:28:12] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.zerohedge.com
[11:28:13] <systemd> Submitting "Ecofascism: The Climate Debate Turns Violent"...
[11:28:35] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Ecofascism: The Climate Debate Turns Violent" (14 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[11:31:19] <chromas> Violent! You're turning Violent, Violent!
[11:45:08] <Runaway1956> Is this science or pseudoscience?
[11:45:18] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.sott.net
[11:48:23] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.zerohedge.com
[11:48:24] <systemd> Submitting ""Forget The KKK, Modern-Day Liberals Are The Biggest Impediment": Clarence Thomas Reflects On Biden Experience"...
[11:48:46] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! ""Forget The KKK, Modern-Day Liberals Are The Biggest Impediment": Clarence Thomas Reflects On Biden " (20 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[11:49:14] <Runaway1956> #submit https://www.sott.net
[11:49:15] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[11:49:40] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[11:49:42] <Runaway1956> There's another spam post in the submissions queue - Scott Miller
[11:57:10] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.zerohedge.com
[11:57:11] <systemd> Submitting "China Braces For December D-Day: The "Unprecedented" Default Of A Massive State-Owned Enterprise"...
[11:57:15] <chromas> That's weird. I dunno what happened to the sott sub but it found a doi
[11:57:33] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "China Braces For December D-Day: The "Unprecedented" Default Of A Massive State-Owned Enterprise" (38 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[11:57:43] <chromas> =threadcount
[11:57:44] <systemd> 1
[11:57:59] <chromas> zombie
[11:58:24] <Runaway1956> The zombie apocalypse is happening now?
[11:58:36] <chromas> Just one calorie
[11:58:40] <chromas> er uh, zombie
[11:59:02] <Runaway1956> quick, nuke it from orbit!!
[12:15:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Astrophysicists Peeved As SpaceX's Starlink Sats Block Meteor Spotting - https://sylnt.us - has-this-been-thought-through?
[14:47:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Global Storms On Mars Launch Dust Towers Into The Sky - https://sylnt.us - Curiosity-is-not-having-a-good-time
[15:00:02] * SoyGuest72711 throws a peanut 5m in the air and catches it in his gob - beat that!
[15:39:03] <RandomFactor> Stop rhyming, I really mean it. Anybody want a peanut?
[15:41:28] <RandomFactor> https://soylentnews.org
[15:41:28] <systemd> ^ 03Maine Man Shot and Killed by His Own Boobytrap: SoylentNews Submission
[15:42:07] <RandomFactor> Those are illegal as hell. It's like they are designed to kill emergency responders (
[15:42:18] <RandomFactor> firemen, police)
[15:57:39] <Runaway1956> Don't know or care much about illegal, but it's sure stupid - as verified by the fact that his own gun killed him!
[15:59:12] <RandomFactor> Two things can be true at once :-)
[16:06:35] <RandomFactor> I think the dog has figured out that I may growl, but I won't -actually- bite him.
[16:08:57] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.theguardian.com
[16:08:59] <systemd> Submitting "Slaughter of the songbirds: the fight against France's 'barbaric' glue traps"...( 1 modified urls; http://www.theguardian.com )
[16:09:21] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Slaughter of the Songbirds: the Fight Against France's 'barbaric' Glue Traps" (0 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[16:15:48] <RandomFactor> This is very obviously non-selective and takes out protected species as easily as non-protected. If they were able to enforce penalties for killing those species reliably I suspect the practice would die out very quickly on its own.
[16:18:44] <Runaway1956> c/net is full of spam this week for black friday sales - but this one looks kind of legit
[16:18:54] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.cnet.com
[16:18:56] <systemd> Submitting "Lock down your Gmail like Fort Knox with Google's Advanced Protection Program"...
[16:19:14] <Runaway1956> I should say all of my news feeds have enough spam to feed the world for a week
[16:19:17] <systemd> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Lock Down Your Gmail Like Fort Knox With Google's Advanced Protection Program" (20 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[17:07:37] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Floppy Disk With Steve Jobs' Signature Valued At $7,500 - https://sylnt.us - it'll-cost-that-much-to-buy-an-Apple-drive
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[19:18:07] <Runaway1956> Everyone is asleep - maybe I should follow their example . . .
[19:18:33] <RandomFactor> Delayed food coma?
[19:19:04] <Runaway1956> Yeah, I think maybe that's it
[19:19:14] <Runaway1956> along with old age
[19:19:49] <RandomFactor> This gives me a pecan pie related idea...
[19:20:07] <Runaway1956> Ohhhhhh no - I'm afraid to ask
[19:20:53] <Runaway1956> Put the pecan pie on the wife's chair, and swear up and down that it wasn't you?
[19:21:36] <RandomFactor> I like how you think, except for the pecan pie part. Maybe with the deviled eggs
[19:21:56] <RandomFactor> i have other uses for the pecan pie
[19:22:39] <Runaway1956> LOL - I'm going to take a nap, because I'm half tempted to go to Home Depot for their black friday sale - which I really don't want to do
[19:23:32] <RandomFactor> I avoid all physical shopping this weekend where humanly possible
[19:25:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - You Can Take My Dad's Tweets Over My Dead Body - https://sylnt.us - think-it-through
[19:27:08] <RandomFactor> They combined our subs on that one.
[19:28:53] <RandomFactor> Sadly they didn't keep my Monty Python department ref :-p
[21:15:32] <pinchy> wonder if Runaway1956 has gotten the "ok boomer" meme directed at him yet?
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[22:13:59] <RandomFactor> pinchy: Maybe. It's just a generationally directed 'whatever' and really says more about the speaker than the target to me. I suspect it wouldn't get much of a rise out of him considering the other crap tossed his way.
[22:19:40] <AzumaHazuki> IMO it's a pithy, snarky condensation of something along the lines of "you're completely out of touch and wouldn't survive a month in my generation's situation. Shut. The. Fuck. Up. This is your fault. Burn in Hell."
[22:19:55] <AzumaHazuki> except we're all too fucking worn out and drowned in despair to muster than many words at once, so...
[22:23:39] <RandomFactor> It's also part of the persistent view that the world didn't really start until the current generation. It is a view held by each generation going back into the mists of time. Suicide, despair, failure, death...none of them are new. Challenges are different though. Now schools do terrorist drills
[22:23:39] <RandomFactor> instead of nuclear attack drills.
[22:28:49] <AzumaHazuki> yeah, i've heard this argument before
[22:29:03] <RandomFactor> Wait 20 years and you get to make it
[22:29:15] <AzumaHazuki> except...it's not true. we're coming up on a situation--several of them together really--that really could end civilization
[22:29:30] <RandomFactor> Hmmm, unlike say, nuclear winter?
[22:29:39] <AzumaHazuki> too many genies have been uncorked from their bottles and the last couple of generations didn't put them back in
[22:29:51] <AzumaHazuki> nuclear winter was never not a threat since the bomb was developed
[22:30:07] <RandomFactor> the likelihood of it used to be quite a bit higher however
[22:30:17] <AzumaHazuki> the last couple of generations were mostly lucky. they also invented MAD, which works...for now
[22:30:19] <RandomFactor> although we're working on ramping that back up
[22:30:35] <AzumaHazuki> but it only works so long as the D is MA. all parties involved are finding ways around that
[22:30:55] <AzumaHazuki> and now things are so fragile, interconnected, and flimsy in the name of short-term profits that you don't even need nukes to end a nation
[22:31:18] <AzumaHazuki> if I were Ivan or Muhammad or Chang, I'd start by attacking all those SCADA systems hanging out on the public inernet
[22:31:21] <RandomFactor> JIT does make things a boatload more fragile
[22:31:40] <AzumaHazuki> past luck is no indication of present or future luck, is my point
[22:32:04] <RandomFactor> get 20 of your buddies to take out power substations at once. Poof, North America is toast.
[22:32:04] <AzumaHazuki> and the last couple generations didn't have this environmental or this information/privacy crisis to contend with
[22:33:25] <RandomFactor> As I said, the specifics change. Every generation has challenges to deal with.
[22:33:31] <AzumaHazuki> or, hell, just let good old corruption, which breaches international borders in the name of individual profits, let you get in and corrode the noosphere from the inside
[22:33:54] <AzumaHazuki> our own governments have become our enemies. they see citizens as potential threats
[22:34:09] <RandomFactor> Mostly they see them as state resources
[22:34:10] <AzumaHazuki> China is leading the way here and it's fucking horrifying
[22:34:46] <RandomFactor> The government in China is a tragedy.
[22:35:27] <RandomFactor> I have personally brought three government assets into the world.
[22:35:33] <AzumaHazuki> they're committing genocide. it's about 1/4 the size of the Holocaust already
[22:35:42] <AzumaHazuki> and no one in the supposed leader of the free world gives a fuck
[22:35:46] <RandomFactor> I assume you refer to the uighers? (sp)
[22:35:59] <AzumaHazuki> Uighurs, yes. And i say this as someone who is no fan of Islam
[22:36:13] <RandomFactor> i actually did a sub on something related to that. It didn't make it.
[22:36:25] <AzumaHazuki> of course not. because no one in power here gives a fuck either
[22:36:28] <RandomFactor> although it was about a guy that reported on it
[22:36:34] <RandomFactor> that china...disappeared
[22:36:46] <AzumaHazuki> this place has become a right-wing cesspit. i sometimes seriously wonder if it would be better off if SN just disappeared
[22:38:12] <RandomFactor> the folks at SN certainly have a bias. Ignoring TMB however it's not a right wing one (that or they are really good at hiding it). They do honestly try to stay more or less in the middle, but changes of getting a sub through pointing to a fox news article still approach nil.
[22:38:36] <RandomFactor> even if i see something there first i go look for another link for the sub
[22:38:42] <AzumaHazuki> uh, no, they don't. look at runaway, who's currently going through the terminal stages of "Fox Delusion" for example
[22:39:14] <AzumaHazuki> his entire life is now based on shouting misdirected defiance into the wind and purposefully ignoring as much of reality as possible
[22:39:31] <RandomFactor> Hmmm, that sounds familiar.
[22:39:45] <AzumaHazuki> let me dig up a post of his where he's going off on Barb Hudson and basically saying "fuck the law, i'll call you a deluded tranny if i want"
[22:40:56] <RandomFactor> I have a rather lengthy thread with Barb. It was like we were having two different conversations. She would pick a political soapbox and go off on it randomly while ignoring the actual subject under discussion
[22:41:20] <AzumaHazuki> https://soylentnews.org this entire subthread. read his posts, he's like some kind of rogue Markov bot trained on every Dixie nursing home ever
[22:41:21] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | Time's up! No, not THAT "Times up" ( https://soylentnews.org )
[22:41:51] <RandomFactor> I restated a point barbara made and then she attacked her own statement. It was ...perplexing...
[22:41:58] <AzumaHazuki> and this one https://soylentnews.org
[22:41:59] <systemd> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | Time's up! No, not THAT "Times up" ( https://soylentnews.org )
[22:42:21] <AzumaHazuki> and for all that she tends to ramble a bit she's still one of the sanest, sharpest and most humane posters
[22:42:27] <RandomFactor> So i'm willing to cut some slack in conversations with her
[22:44:08] <RandomFactor> randomized unrelated responses don't support what you say.
[22:44:08] <AzumaHazuki> oh, and then there's Sulla pontificating from his position of privileged ignorance and willfully ignoring any inconvenient counterexamples...
[22:44:42] <AzumaHazuki> i try to cut him some slack in that he's just ignorant as opposed to actively venomous, but there comes a point where ignorance isn't acceptable
[22:44:49] <RandomFactor> I ignore a lot of 'cointerexamples' myself. Usually when i'm to tired to even type 'tu quoque'
[22:44:59] <AzumaHazuki> maybe you shouldn't
[22:45:14] <AzumaHazuki> i was only trying to save you from having to read that entire thread :/
[22:50:40] <RandomFactor> Grrrr, i hate between season time in Japan.
[23:15:39] <chromas> https://pbs.twimg.com
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