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[01:58:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - U.S. Patent and Trademark Office Asks If "AI" Can Create or Infringe Copyrighted Works - https://sylnt.us - Bender-says-"No"
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[02:07:45] <AzumaHazuki> https://www.etsy.com
[02:07:47] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03Ikea Tarot Deck
[02:38:15] <chromas> Do you have to assemble the cards?
[02:59:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> wait, are they saying vi is gay?
[03:01:10] <AzumaHazuki> that's clearly a woman on the right hand side
[03:11:36] <RandomFactor> Yes! [14:09.27] <NerdRPG> Fnord666 [161/2248] has challenged RandomFactor [240/279] and been defeated in combat! 9 days, 12:49:42 is added to Fnord666's clock
[03:15:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, did you just assume his gender?!
[03:16:12] <AzumaHazuki> you know no one actually says that in the real world, don't you?
[03:16:27] <AzumaHazuki> good grief, i'm not even trans and all the anti-trans stuff pisses me off
[03:16:49] <AzumaHazuki> just how many people here hit on a crossdresser and were scarred for life?
[03:17:18] <chromas> Wow, I can't believe you're equating crossdressing with trans-peeps. Disgusting
[03:17:42] <chromas> Probably no one says it, but there's always Twitter
[03:17:46] <chromas> and tumblr
[03:17:48] <AzumaHazuki> i'm not, but i've counted two or three people on the forums who do
[03:18:19] <AzumaHazuki> it's interesting how there's all this horror focused on MtFs but like...nooooo one knows FtMs exist. they're invisible in ways that make us lesbians look like neon signs
[03:18:53] <chromas> probably because they don't have a porn genre
[03:19:35] <chromas> also everyone loves lesbians. even the bible doesn't have anything against them
[03:19:42] <AzumaHazuki> okay, asking seriously here: why are straight dudes so horribly insecure around gay men and transwomen?
[03:20:41] <AzumaHazuki> you can't catch gay, it's not gay to admit someone of the same sex is attractive, and no one will think less of you if you hit on a transwoman
[03:20:44] <chromas> sounds like a twitter thing
[03:21:37] <RandomFactor> The thing about talking to Texans. You can't go more than five minutes without them telling you they are a Texan.
[03:22:34] <AzumaHazuki> from what i've been reading, there are cases of insecure straight dudes outright murdering transwomen...and getting light or no criminal penalty depending on the jury
[03:23:06] <AzumaHazuki> where is this visceral horror coming from? i've been hit on by some very feminine men i thought were women and it wasn't scary or gross, just a misunderstanding
[03:26:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Construction on the Nanoscale, Using 'Tractor Beams' - https://sylnt.us - light-work
[03:27:44] <AzumaHazuki> is it a social thing? are gay men and transwomen seen as some kind of gender traitors, men who willingly throw away status or privilege?
[03:28:55] <chromas> I dunno. Probably should ask some terfs
[03:29:15] <AzumaHazuki> terfs are idiots. they dismantle their own arguments from the inside out.
[03:29:37] <AzumaHazuki> i've had some bad experiences with transwomen but i'm not going to judge a whole group of people by a few crazies
[03:54:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> sorry, got distracted by kitties.
[03:54:28] <chromas> I'm rubbing my kitty right now
[03:54:46] <chromas> he likes to go outside and get cold and damp, then come in to dry off on whoever's around
[03:54:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> i've heard that in real life, so yes, there are idiots that large. that, however, was a joke.
[03:55:48] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: you can't make jokes now because it normalizes hatred
[03:55:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> not everything i say is serious. shit, most things i say aren't serious.
[03:56:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, i'm trying to normalize not being a huge pussy
[03:57:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> RandomFactor, no fucking shit. they're nearly half as annoying as californians.
[03:58:13] <AzumaHazuki> for someone who mostly isn't serious, you really do seem to have a need to show how serious you aren't with "obvious rebuttals" every other turn
[03:59:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> i hit a different tone here than in the comments.
[03:59:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> comments are for arguments. irc is for talking bullshit to kill time.
[03:59:57] <AzumaHazuki> just saying, you're not fooling anyone but yourself...
[04:00:12] <AzumaHazuki> and it doesn't exactly take a natural 20 in a Perception check
[04:00:17] <chromas> Methanol-fooled
[04:00:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> i think i probably have a better idea of when i'm taking the piss than you do
[04:01:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> you're severely lacking in the empathy department in that respect
[04:01:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, you should make a parody account named that
[04:02:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> troll EF
[04:02:14] <AzumaHazuki> you should have a better idea since it's coming from your head
[04:02:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> rest assured, there are no secrets in my motivation from my conscious mind.
[04:02:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> except why i like boobs
[04:02:57] <AzumaHazuki> who said there were? you're not a complicated person
[04:03:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's always mystified me.
[04:03:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> s'true. i like fishing, arguing, making dumb jokes, and talking outrageous shit with a shit-eating grin
[04:04:03] <chromas> the cat's mystified about me poking my keyboard instead of rubbing his belly
[04:04:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> you could try it too, you know. there's no rule saying you can't argue about important shit and still have a sense of humor.
[04:04:36] <AzumaHazuki> i do, i just tend to keep it separate
[04:04:52] <chromas> I know your secret
[04:05:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> he's not mystified, he's just an asshole.
[04:05:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> all cats are.
[04:05:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> why do you think they keep dragging birds inside to give to you every chance they get? they're literally giving you the bird because they lack thumbs to do it figuratively.
[04:06:11] <AzumaHazuki> they think you're an incompetent hunter and are trying to show you how it's done
[04:06:44] <chromas> We use the middle finger for firing the bird around here. You midwesterners are different I gues
[04:07:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> or they think you're a badass because you always come home with bags and bags of dinner and they're feeling insecure and showing off
[04:07:34] <chromas> he has brought in animals before. Almost always still alive. We got a house mouse that way once
[04:07:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, same here but it really requires a thumb to do properly. either as out to the side garnish or to hold the other fingers down hard for the no screwing around bird
[04:08:55] <AzumaHazuki> or the double deuce emoji: t("t)
[04:09:03] <AzumaHazuki> a.k.a. the salty Kirby
[04:09:08] <AzumaHazuki> he ate a New Yorker
[04:09:39] <chromas> 💩💩
[04:12:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> damnit, it's already past bedtime. stupid couch guy is fucking my sleep schedule all up.
[04:12:36] <chromas> netflix and chill with the buzz?
[04:13:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm more of a pirate and nap kinda guy
[04:14:44] <chromas> I move that we name watching pirated videos naval gazing
[04:16:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> making gay jokes about navy guys on veterans day?
[04:16:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> come on man, you got 364 other days a year for that
[04:17:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> no matter how accurate
[04:17:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt in the navy
[04:17:31] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[04:18:39] <AzumaHazuki> it's just irresistible though. especially the submarine guys
[04:18:50] <AzumaHazuki> stuck on a long, hard, thick cylinder full of seaman :v
[04:18:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth
[04:19:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean it's beyond tradition. it's been going on since they didn't allow women on ships hundreds of years ago.
[04:19:52] <AzumaHazuki> that environment would drive me nuts. it would be even worse with all women because holy fuck, can you imagine like 30 of us PMSing all at different times?
[04:20:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> you'd sync up. chicks generally do. which would be much, much worse.
[04:20:31] <AzumaHazuki> ...is that even a thing? I've heard of it but it never happened to me
[04:20:43] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[04:20:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> it ain't an always thing but it's sure nuff documented
[04:21:18] <AzumaHazuki> hm, i am oddly close to my girlfriend's cycle but mine's a day longer or so so there's some drift sometimes
[04:22:27] <chromas> Need to install an ntp client
[04:22:41] * TheMightyBuzzard groans
[04:22:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas++
[04:22:46] <Bender> karma - chromas: 264
[04:23:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> all that aside, it'd be living in a fart can for months at a time. soldiers often smell worse but at least the ones who do are usually outside.
[04:24:29] <chromas> We need to invent methane-powered subs
[04:25:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> they already are. the whole nuclear thing was a cold war tactic to trick the russians into spending sick amounts of money while we just bought more beans.
[04:25:30] <AzumaHazuki> ick. my nose is really sensitive so that would suck
[04:25:41] <AzumaHazuki> also? period farts are a thing, i do not know why, and it's awful
[04:27:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> so several days out of the month, with two of you doing it, your bedsheets look like a wacky waving inflatable arm-flailing tube man?
[04:28:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> not surprising from a sciency perspective though. your bits are doing different shit that week which means what's getting pulled out or left in the digestive tract is gonna change.
[04:29:48] <AzumaHazuki> hey now, i make sure to uncover and point away if i have to poot
[04:30:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> fuck. i missed a perfectly good "the answer is blowin in the wind" setup
[04:30:09] <AzumaHazuki> also thankfully they're mostly just noise. just...jesus fuck, where is it all COMING FROM
[04:30:23] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[04:31:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> TR is olympic class for volume. if he's sitting on the hardwood floor and lets loose, you can feel the vibrations through the couch.
[04:31:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> all sound and no fury though
[04:32:58] <chromas> like a church organ. fitting for your new place
[04:33:04] <AzumaHazuki> i've done those in a bathtub
[04:33:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> that wasn't hyperbole btw. you put a seismograph on the couch cushions, it would actually register on the richter scale.
[04:33:17] <chromas> ~define farticles
[04:33:22] <chromas> #smake exec
[04:33:22] * MrPlow smakes exec upside the head with a tube sock full of Subsentient's fresh and creamy fudge
[04:33:22] <exec> farticles: unable to find definition
[04:33:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~define farticle
[04:33:32] <exec> [local] farticle: What you call one tiny bubble out of all the bubbles when you fart in the tub.
[04:33:33] <AzumaHazuki> i remember being like 9 and ripping unholy ass right against the porcelain and my mother coming in asking if the pipes were waterhammering
[04:33:53] <Bytram> !grab AzumaHazuki
[04:33:53] <Bender> Added quote 921
[04:34:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> see, you just thought he was one of the good guys
[04:34:49] * Bytram just finished reading backscroll and saw that one... too ripe to leave unplucked
[04:34:54] <Bytram> nograb
[04:35:57] <Bytram> btw, got a good laugh out of me, so... much appreciated!
[04:35:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> i make up for the lack of volume in stopping power. i woke myself up and had to open a window last month.
[04:36:29] <AzumaHazuki> ah, you must be the new white ninja come to take Chris Farley's place. silent, but deadly
[04:36:34] <chromas> it's pretty bad when you have to time travel to air the place out
[04:37:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> still not a patch on an early 20s friend o mine. he had just finished an all taco bell diet for finals week. literally cleared out a room full of guys who think farts are hilarious in the middle of a dnd session.
[04:38:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> and kept us out for half an hour until one of us went in and dumped a hand pump bottle of air freshener over the ac coils
[04:39:32] <AzumaHazuki> good lord. mine are just noisy and windy, not much poison except in very rare cases
[04:40:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> it was evil. like worse than having a skunk in the room evil.
[04:41:44] <AzumaHazuki> oh ye gods. one of those "goddammit who the FUCK has been mixing up thiols in the sink again?!" ones?
[04:42:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> mind you, we were pretty evil too. the guy's house we were at, his roommate came home while we were all standing outside smoking cigarettes after escaping. nobody said a word.
[04:42:24] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: have you ever had an encounter with a skunk?
[04:42:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> country boy, so i've had several dogs get skunked.
[04:42:53] <AzumaHazuki> someone in the coed dorm i was in once was like that. pure platonic essence of burning rubber. i was half expecting a smoking, charred cast of his ascending colon to drop out
[04:42:55] <chromas> What happened to the roommate? Is he...still with us?
[04:43:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> and seen them from under twenty yards
[04:43:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, didn't manage to stay in for ten seconds
[04:43:26] <Bytram> I have been sprayed by a skunk and even 6 weeks later it was still coming out of my pores.
[04:44:31] <Bytram> thankfully it was during the summer, so it had cleared by the time I had to go back to school.
[04:45:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> the cs gas chamber in boot camp was worse but not a whole lot.
[04:45:27] <Bytram> late day at work today and I have tomorrow off... think I'll head to bed and hope I can sleep in some.
[04:45:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, get your relax on
[04:46:12] <Bytram> I have no 'sperience with that stuff; will take your word for it.
[04:46:25] <Bytram> ~gnight TheMightyBuzzard
[04:46:26] * exec skeptically QCs some stock footage of capsaicin for TheMightyBuzzard
[04:46:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gnight Bytram
[04:46:30] * exec explicitly internalizes a binary tree of extra lives in Bytram
[04:46:34] <Bytram> ~gnight chromas
[04:46:36] * exec proverbially uninstalls a cornhole of SLAPP from chromas
[04:46:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> speaking of, me too
[04:46:43] <Bytram> ~gnight AzumaHazuki
[04:46:45] * exec suspiciously synthesizes a pinch of dollars from AzumaHazuki
[04:46:52] <chromas> =g'night Bytram
[04:46:52] * ClownHatLinux readily pesters a FAT32 volume of snookies with Bytram
[04:46:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gnight world+dog
[04:46:55] * exec transphobically pairs an undersized chest of the chronic with world+dog
[04:47:08] <chromas> Yeah, I got the SLAPP
[04:47:16] <Bytram> ~define snookies
[04:47:22] <exec> snookies: unable to find definition
[04:47:27] <Bytram> =define snookies
[04:47:39] <Bytram> =g snookies
[04:47:40] <ClownHatLinux> https://www.facebook.com - Snookies Malt Shop - Home | Facebook - Des Moines
[04:47:45] <Bytram> lol
[04:47:55] <Bytram> I give up.
[04:48:05] <Bytram> have a great night everyone!
[04:49:08] <chromas> probably a star wars reference
[04:49:24] <chromas> the cardassians
[04:56:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Manure, Trash and Wastewater: U.S. Utilities Get Dirty in Climate Fight - https://sylnt.us - belching-all-the-way-to-the-bank
[06:12:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Post-Apocalyptic Fossils Show Rise of Mammals After Dinosaur Demise - https://sylnt.us - be-grateful-for-that-asteroid
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[11:19:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:19:17] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5033
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[14:34:01] * TheMightyBuzzard sighs
[14:35:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> i just spent a fucking hour trying to figure out why kerberos wouldn't let me copy the contents of a directory from one server into a directory on another server.
[14:35:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> turns out it really fucking helps if the directory exists
[15:10:39] <AndyTheAbsurd> heh
[15:11:13] <AndyTheAbsurd> troubleshooting step 1: check your assumptions.
[15:14:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, we're running on sodium now. i'll give it till tomorrow to make double damned sure dns has propagated out far and wide then update magnesium.
[15:15:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> updating the load balancers time
[15:26:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hitting the Books: Did the Advent of the First Desktop Computer Lead to Murder? - https://sylnt.us - not-sure-whodunnit
[15:33:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://beta.soylentnews.org
[15:33:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> oi, bot, why you no gimme redirection?
[15:35:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> stupid bot. take all the fun out of cname-ing beta.soylentnews.org to slashdot.org
[15:37:57] <chopchop1> when are the f bombs gonna drop on beta?
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[17:23:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> i feel like folks are missing a real opportunity in not slapping ransomware on ransomware guys' boxes.
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[19:02:01] <SoyCow5190> Hey all. I believe there was a story about this a while back. What website that talked about the patent system shut down. I remember reading about them receiving a lot of threats but the author said something about having internal problems with other members?
[19:03:43] <Bytram> SoyCow5190: Hmm, does not ring a bell for me...
[19:03:50] <Bytram> janrinok: ^^^ any ideas?
[19:03:50] <janrinok> nor me
[19:03:58] <Bytram> that was *QUICK*!
[19:04:17] <SoyCow5190> Thanks
[19:04:33] <janrinok> Bytram, you know me...
[19:04:34] <Bytram> ISTR a story a few months back about some site upgrades or somesuch?
[19:05:08] <Bytram> or some feature / api / something being made unavailable (possibly for a period, but maybe permanently)
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[19:19:08] <AndyTheAbsurd> twitwiffles
[19:19:16] <AndyTheAbsurd> s/i/a/g
[19:19:17] <exec> <AndyTheAbsurd> twatwaffles
[19:19:28] * AndyTheAbsurd amuses himself sometimes.
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[19:30:47] <carny> did anybody submit a story about the new intel cpu vulnerabilities?
[19:33:43] <carny> =submit https://threatpost.com from the we-should-all-be-using-riscv dept.
[19:33:45] <ClownHatLinux> Submitting "Intel Warns of Critical Info-Disclosure Bug in Security Engine"...
[19:33:51] <AndyTheAbsurd> carny: I don't see anything in https://soylentnews.org so probably not.
[19:33:52] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[19:34:07] <ClownHatLinux> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Intel Warns of Critical Info-Disclosure Bug in Security Engine" (17 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[19:34:13] <carny> that can get the ball rolling
[19:48:30] <carny> https://www.youtube.com
[19:48:30] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03RIDL-TAA leaking full root password hash in seconds - YouTube
[19:50:22] <carny> so it looks like this exploit can jump from one core to another and steal bits of a file that are being accessed by another process
[19:50:50] <carny> all your data are belong to us hackers
[19:52:47] <AndyTheAbsurd> AMD FTW. Sort of.
[19:54:16] <carny> not much better tbh
[19:54:52] <Sulla> Haven't used an AMD product since they bought ATI. I remember thinking ATI cards went to shit after that and blaming AMD for it, but don't remember why
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[20:08:12] <chromas> amd's probably better if you're running linux
[20:08:21] <chromas> since nvidia has the super screen tearing feature
[20:08:45] <chromas> looks like carny figured out how to get the bot to title youtube
[20:12:30] <carny> use embed urls?
[20:12:45] <chromas> aye
[20:12:47] <carny> https://youtu.be
[20:12:51] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com )
[20:13:02] <carny> https://www.youtube.com
[20:13:06] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03YouTube
[20:13:27] <chromas> for some reason, youtube is returning pages that require executing javascript to get anything out of them, but only for the bot
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[20:26:28] <FatPhil> curl shows '<title>RIDL-TAA leaking full root password hash in seconds - YouTube</title>'. ur bot's dumber than curl.
[20:29:44] <FatPhil> fuxtix, exaeta's getting dumber by the post.
[20:35:23] <chromas> the bot uses curl tho
[20:36:01] * chromas blames the alt-right
[20:36:30] <AndyTheAbsurd> =submit https://techcrunch.com
[20:36:32] <ClownHatLinux> Submitting "Mozilla partners with Intel, Red Hat and Fastly to take WebAssembly beyond the browser – TechCrunch"...( 1 modified urls; http://social.techcrunch.com )
[20:36:53] <ClownHatLinux> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Mozilla Partners With Intel, Red Hat and Fastly to Take WebAssembly Beyond the Browser – TechCrunc" (10 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[20:45:14] <carny> the universe is a simulation designed to torment me
[20:45:23] <carny> my proof is javascript
[20:46:11] <AndyTheAbsurd> my proof is that small cats are incredibly cute, while simultaneously also being incredibly vicious.
[20:46:21] <carny> clearly it is an inside joke that people are still pretending to use javascript for serious computing
[20:47:22] <carny> the fact that brendan eich can sometimes keep a straight face when he talks about 'the future of javascript' is even more proof
[20:49:35] <FatPhil> chromas: $ curl -s https://www.youtube.com | grep -o '<title>.*</title>'
[20:49:38] <FatPhil> <title>RIDL-TAA leaking full root password hash in seconds - YouTube</title>
[20:49:39] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03YouTube
[21:05:32] <chromas> yes
[21:05:44] <chromas> but for reasons unknown, the bot gets a different page from youtube
[21:06:01] <chromas> I changed the user-agent string around and everything
[21:26:39] <Bytram> chromas: hmmm, maybe a problem with cookies?
[21:26:53] <Bytram> on winders, this works for me:
[21:26:54] <Bytram> curl --insecure -s "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaTxBZXE9pQ" | grep -io "<title>.*</title>"
[21:26:58] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com )
[21:27:35] <Bytram> FWIW, curl --version reports:
[21:27:36] <Bytram> curl 7.40.0 (i386-pc-win32) libcurl/7.40.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1j zlib/1.2.8
[21:27:36] <Bytram> Protocols: dict file ftp ftps gopher http https imap imaps ldap pop3 pop3s rtsp smb smbs smtp smtps telnet tftp
[21:27:36] <Bytram> Features: AsynchDNS IPv6 Largefile NTLM SSL libz
[21:34:15] <Fnord666> curl -s https://www.youtube.com | grep -o '<title>.*</title>'
[21:34:19] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03YouTube
[21:34:24] <Fnord666> works for me on windows using cygwin
[21:35:57] <Fnord666> curl 7.66.0 (i686-pc-cygwin) libcurl/7.66.0 OpenSSL/1.1.1d zlib/1.2.11 brotli/1.0.7 libidn2/2.2.0 libpsl/0.21.0 (+libidn2/2.0.4) libssh/0.8.7/openssl/zlib nghttp2/1.37.0
[21:35:57] <Fnord666> Release-Date: 2019-09-11
[21:35:57] <Fnord666> Protocols: dict file ftp ftps gopher http https imap imaps ldap ldaps pop3 pop3s rtsp scp sftp smb smbs smtp smtps telnet tftp
[21:35:57] <Fnord666> Features: AsynchDNS brotli Debug GSS-API HTTP2 HTTPS-proxy IDN IPv6 Kerberos Largefile libz Metalink NTLM NTLM_WB PSL SPNEGO SSL TLS-SRP TrackMemory UnixSockets
[21:37:07] <FatPhil> curl 7.52.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) libcurl/7.52.1 OpenSSL/1.0.2t zlib/1.2.8 libidn2/0.16 libpsl/0.17.0 (+libidn2/0.16) libssh2/1.7.0 nghttp2/1.18.1 librtmp/2.3
[21:37:10] <FatPhil> Protocols: dict file ftp ftps gopher http https imap imaps ldap ldaps pop3 pop3s rtmp rtsp scp sftp smb smbs smtp smtps telnet tftp
[21:37:13] <FatPhil> Features: AsynchDNS IDN IPv6 Largefile GSS-API Kerberos SPNEGO NTLM NTLM_WB SSL libz TLS-SRP HTTP2 UnixSockets HTTPS-proxy PSL
[21:38:18] <FatPhil> also works in: curl 7.38.0 (arm-unknown-linux-gnueabi) libcurl/7.38.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1t zlib/1.2.8 libidn/1.29 libssh2/1.4.3 librtmp/2.3
[21:38:21] <FatPhil> Protocols: dict file ftp ftps gopher http https imap imaps ldap ldaps pop3 pop3s rtmp rtsp scp sftp smtp smtps telnet tftp
[21:38:24] <FatPhil> Features: AsynchDNS IDN IPv6 Largefile GSS-API SPNEGO NTLM NTLM_WB SSL libz TLS-SRP
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[21:39:31] <FatPhil> both mine from google's Estonia bubble
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[21:40:23] <chromas> I guess the part where it sets the ua-string wasn't actually being used. herp
[21:40:39] <FatPhil> g/f's machine in the UK didn't provide a title.
[21:41:06] <chromas> I had it set to firefox 56. I set it to an older version to get the title
[21:41:44] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[21:41:45] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03Best of the Worst: Christmas or Cats
[21:42:03] <FatPhil> nope, g/f fucked up
[21:42:07] <chromas> Butt I'm pretty sure nothing changed on my end to make it start dropping titles
[21:42:16] <chromas> then again, I was sure I changed the ua
[21:42:35] <chromas> urinalysis
[21:43:08] <FatPhil> UK machine and US machine do both work for g/f
[21:43:25] <chromas> is she in both places?
[21:43:35] <FatPhil> ever heard of ssh?
[21:43:47] <chromas> no
[21:44:04] <chromas> the string was Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:56.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/6.0 Waterfox/56.2.13
[21:44:12] <chromas> I just dropped the 5s
[21:44:20] <chromas> might have dropped one before pasting here too
[21:45:26] <FatPhil> neither of us used any custom UA setting
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[21:57:19] <Bytram> thanks to this discussion, I realized my copy of curl was out of date; just did a d/l and now have: v7.66.0
[21:58:38] <chromas> https://chocolatey.org
[21:58:39] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03Chocolatey - The package manager for Windows
[21:58:57] <chromas> automate your curl installs
[21:59:06] <chromas> or updates
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