#soylent | Logs for 2019-11-10
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[23:58:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, s'what i did. didn't feel like hanging it all up last night so i got two extra loads of blanket.
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[22:08:28] <chromas> yes
[22:07:41] <AzumaHazuki> and undo all the folding?
[22:07:18] <chromas> Spread it on your bed and roll around in it
[21:58:27] <AzumaHazuki> nice, clean, fresh, warm laundry :)
[21:47:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Best Way to Stop Lights From Flickering (and Burning Out) When AC Unit Compressor Turns On? - https://sylnt.us - use-hurricane-lamps
[21:20:24] <pinchy> popeye having a sale eh?
[21:03:53] <RandomFactor> Mmmmm, Popeye's
[20:45:02] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03Archive.is blog
[20:45:01] <carny> https://blog.archive.today
[20:44:07] <carny> If you are in one of the coutries with state firewall (Russia, Australia, Iran, …) most likely the older domains (.today, .is, .li, .fo) are blocked there and the newer (.vn, .ph, .md) work. It takes 1-2 years for a domain to get into the blacklist on state firewall (a single page with political propaganda is enough) and it is almost not possible to get out.
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[20:38:20] <Ethanol-fueled> A FUCKING CHICKEN SANDWICH
[20:37:00] <Ethanol-fueled> The worst part about witnessing that disgusting spectacle is that I didn't even get to see any Blacks fighting and ramming each others' cars to be first to get a chicken sandwich
[20:36:06] <Ethanol-fueled> Popeye's ain't even nearly as good as Chick Fil-a with even worse of a wait for a fucking chicken sandwhich
[20:35:23] <Ethanol-fueled> It's a fucking chicken sandwhich, not even gold-plated or cut with crack cocaine.
[20:34:57] <Ethanol-fueled> Man, shit like that makes me ashamed to be an American.
[20:34:45] <Ethanol-fueled> that line of cars was in the drive-thru line for fucking Popeye's chicken
[20:34:29] <Ethanol-fueled> Last night there was a line of cars 20 cars long spilling out into the boulevard and shitting up traffic
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[19:17:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Artemis Program Requires More Cash to Reach Moon by 2024; SLS Could Cost 1,000x More Than Starship - https://sylnt.us - when-pork-flies
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[18:09:04] <RandomFactor> I tried to tell @Artemis that she was going to be a lander but was ignored.
[18:04:40] <RandomFactor> By far the best and surest method to spark debate is to post something that could be interpreted, no matter how much of a stretch, as *wrong*
[17:51:46] <RandomFactor> That's never rhetorical to a veteran of the archiver wars
[17:26:00] <FatPhil> it was a rhetorical question - the compression creates a bitstring, the fact that it's encoded a particular way for replication is irrelevant.
[17:25:21] <RandomFactor> Shouldn't that have read "Be calm and ~sed on"
[17:24:25] <RandomFactor> https://i.imgur.com
[17:24:13] <Runaway1956> Well, yeah, I can use peanut butter for bait - it catches little kids mostly
[17:22:25] <RandomFactor> You use peanut butter for bait?
[17:18:10] <Runaway1956> peanut butter ++
[17:15:21] <exec> sed already enabled for 10#soylent
[17:15:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~sed on
[17:09:00] <RandomFactor> Yoshi
[17:08:27] <RandomFactor> ARc, Lzh, Pak, eventually ZIP (never liked ZIp) LZH was probably my favorite
[17:03:12] <FatPhil> how did you compress the archive of your files? 9600/8-N-1
[17:01:40] <FatPhil> the PC itself probably didn't have any control over the line code in the modernish PC era (1990...). You literally had an "MFM drive".
[17:00:39] <FatPhil> but any partition can be encoded in any line code, as any sequence of bits can be encoded in any line code, these are separate layers.
[16:59:13] <RandomFactor> [03:14.33] --NerdRPG-- Cthulhu decides you can be useful in furthering his divisive ends. You have found the level 97 Linus's final bug-free Ready for the Desktop version of Linux! Your enemies do the three fingered salute in awe
[16:56:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 15,000 Year Old Mammoth Trap Found in Mexico - https://sylnt.us - could-have-used-trunkquilizer-darts
[16:46:38] <RandomFactor_> "I guess it had something to do with the drive mechanics cost, but what exactly had to be better to be RLL capable? In a nutshell, a drive used for 2,7 RLL had to be capable of handling bit cells that are only 2/3rds the size of those in MFM (the datarate in RLL is typically 50% greater (7.5MHz) that that in MFM). Not all of the early drives were up to this. When IDE came in, almost all drives immediately went to RL
[16:44:57] <RandomFactor_> But once you went RLL you couldn't go back supposedly (althoug I did and it worked fine)
[16:44:16] <RandomFactor_> (and format)
[16:44:12] <RandomFactor_> yeah, trying to remember. I have memory of toss in the RLL, do a low level and partition and done
[16:43:50] <FatPhil> it's been too long
[16:43:45] <FatPhil> no, 4 bits?
[16:43:26] <FatPhil> with a limit of 2 bits!
[16:42:40] <FatPhil> MFM was RLL, though, wasn't it?
[16:42:11] <RandomFactor_> You had different physical controllers for MFM vs RLL
[16:41:23] <FatPhil> unless I'm mistaken
[16:41:12] <FatPhil> RLL was just the physical layer encoding scheme, independent of the partitioning scheme above that.
[16:40:56] <RandomFactor_> I actually tried to resurrect RBBS on my machine a couple of months back. Wasn't succesful though.
[16:36:28] <RandomFactor_> heady days
[16:35:35] <RandomFactor_> yes, you could do two ~30 mb partitions on the 251 if you did the RLL thing :)
[16:33:24] <FatPhil> memory's a bit rusty. not sure of the model number either. I think it was 104MB.
[16:32:55] <FatPhil> I think my first owned one was an ST-104, but I'm sure DOS (Hmmm, not sure if 3.x or 4.0) could make it one partition
[16:24:18] <exec> <Bytram> my first hard disk came a bit late, an ST-251 40MB 1/2 height 5 1/4" drive that had to be partitioned into 32MB and 8MB because DOS 3.x could not address more than 32 MB with FAT at the time.
[16:24:16] <Bytram> s/GB/MB/g
[16:24:01] <Bytram> my first hard disk came a bit late, an ST-251 40MB 1/2 height 5 1/4" drive that had to be partitioned into 32GB and 8GB because DOS 3.x could not address more than 32 MB with FAT at the time.
[16:22:42] <Bytram> RandomFactor_: Yeah, I remember how much better a floppy was than a tape drive for program storage (and those were better than paper tape and punch cards, too)
[15:51:29] <RandomFactor_> If you had two floppy drives that pretty much sealed the deal. Lot less swapping.
[15:50:13] <RandomFactor_> RLL encoding kicked the tail of basic MFM and made our ST-225s into 30MB powerhouses. Then we moved up to ST-4096 80MB full height monsters that we could push to 120mb. It's all been downhill from there.
[15:49:45] <AzumaHazuki> uphill in the snow both ways? :v
[15:44:32] * Bytram also remembers looking at a memory board for a PDP-8 where one could *easily* see each of the core memory *bits* and the three wires on which each was strung.
[15:42:59] <AzumaHazuki> thankfully we're no longer in the dark ages
[15:41:11] * Bytram remembers a time when finding a 1 GB spinny 3.5-inch HDD for less than $1000 was a *deal*
[15:31:04] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03SanDisk Extreme PLUS 128GB microSDXC UHS-I Memory Card SDSQXBZ-128G-ANCMA - Best Buy
[15:31:02] <Bytram> BTW, snf totally unrelated, but if anyone is in the market ffor a microSDXC card, this is a great deal $19.99 for 128GB: https://www.bestbuy.com
[15:30:35] <AzumaHazuki> will keep in my closet, just like I did with the T500 when the T440s arrived
[15:29:46] <Bytram> hard to argue with success, OTOH "past performance is no guarantee of future results"
[15:29:39] <chromas> replace the hdd and turn it into a server box, folded up on a shelf somewhere
[15:29:16] <AzumaHazuki> have to admit SATA and an i5-4200U are getting long in the tooth though
[15:28:49] <AzumaHazuki> i really like the T440s. it's been with me through good and bad times and always worked
[15:28:30] <Bytram> time to move along then
[15:28:23] <Bytram> nod nod
[15:28:17] <AzumaHazuki> lots of others. USB ports flaking out, one of the slots inside is already not working right...
[15:27:59] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: good that you planned ahead. Am curious, did you consider just replacing the drive or were there other issues with your existing box?
[15:27:25] <chromas> though I'm not sure 256gb is enough for windows 10
[15:27:16] <chromas> Gotta have something to connect to irc from
[15:26:18] <AzumaHazuki> hope like hell this lasts 5 years like the T440s did. And this thing's not dead yet, just...flaky. will keep as emergency backup machine
[15:25:46] <AzumaHazuki> i always feel horribly guilty about buying anything big-ticket (well, for me this is big-ticket) even though I have 3x enough for it and no upcoming bills and am a month ahead on rent...
[15:25:19] <chromas> noice
[15:25:15] <AzumaHazuki> yes, an NVMe one :)
[15:24:30] <chromas> 256GB? IS that an SSD?
[15:21:59] <AzumaHazuki> FHD, 8GB/256GB, advertised with an R7-3700...this is going to be a 5+ year workhorse
[15:21:27] <AzumaHazuki> been putting some $ aside every paycheck. today it failed to find the HDD 4 times in a row. I've made backups, just ordered an openbox Thinkpad E495 off fleabay :)
[15:21:00] <AzumaHazuki> welp. that paranoid saving i've been doing is paying off. way back in June I started getting premonitions my old T440s was on the way out
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[15:02:32] <chromas> all deleted by windows ce
[15:01:44] <chromas> plus her he-males
[14:59:40] <FatPhil> all ex-associates of the Clintons?
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[14:50:20] * chromas conspiracies
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[14:47:01] <chromas> microsoft certified senior eugenics
[14:36:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ransomware, Data Breaches at Hospitals Tied to Uptick in Fatal Heart Attacks - https://sylnt.us - windows-tco
[14:31:38] <ClownHatLinux> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Manure, Trash and Wastewater: U.S. Utilities Get Dirty in Climate Fight" (20 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:31:16] <ClownHatLinux> Submitting "Manure, trash and wastewater: U.S. utilities get dirty in climate fight"...( 1 modified urls; https://www.reuters.com )
[14:31:15] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.reuters.com
[14:03:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> got over half a dozen more cpvc joints (butt joints, Ts, and elbows) to make and the pipe running to/from them. also some gas line to cut out and a tiny bit of framing that needs to go away so the pipes can come down to the sink.
[14:03:06] <ClownHatLinux> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Post-apocalyptic Fossils Show Rise of Mammals After Dinosaur Demise" (19 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[14:02:44] <ClownHatLinux> Submitting "Post-apocalyptic fossils show rise of mammals after dinosaur demise"...( 1 modified urls; https://www.reuters.com )
[14:02:43] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.reuters.com
[14:02:41] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: thanks for babysitting the servers last night... did I read correctly that you *rebooted* servers? Which ones?
[14:02:08] <Runaway1956> dafuq?
[14:02:03] * exec arrogantly culturally appropriates a ciri of sunbeams from TheMightyBuzzard
[14:01:59] <Runaway1956> <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday Runaway1956
[14:01:59] <Runaway1956> <Runaway1956> dam I done it wrong
[14:01:59] <ClownHatLinux> Runaway1956, submit failed: No title.
[14:01:59] <Bytram> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[14:01:59] <Runaway1956> =submit buzzard
[14:01:34] <Runaway1956> Well, Yes Sir! But I didn't want Navy builders laying pipe for me!
[14:01:10] <Runaway1956> next day - "Runaway, don't you live in Navy Housing?"
[14:00:54] <Runaway1956> Lt. Donnely, I need to take the day off and work on the plumbing
[14:00:31] <Runaway1956> I used that line in the Navy - and it worked
[14:00:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, laying pipe can be fun. plumbing is boring.
[14:00:13] <Runaway1956> for
[14:00:10] <Runaway1956> depending on who you are plumbing
[13:59:59] <Runaway1956> plumbing can be fun
[13:59:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, you just can't win lately
[13:59:43] * exec irrefutably internalizes a Borg cube of pain and suffering in Bytram
[13:59:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday Bytram
[13:59:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> blarg. time to put socks on and go be a plumber some more.
[13:59:23] * exec smurfily synthesizes a 40 of unsigned bools from TMB
[13:59:21] <Runaway1956> ~g'day TMB
[13:59:10] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5030
[13:59:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[13:59:05] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5029
[13:59:04] <Bytram> coffee++
[13:59:00] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into Bytram's gaping mouth
[13:59:00] * Bytram yawns
[13:58:43] * exec dexterously ejaculates scrotal sacks of orange slices at Runaway1956
[13:58:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday Runaway1956
[13:56:32] <Runaway1956> dam I done it wrong
[13:56:21] <Runaway1956> g'day buzzard
[13:56:06] <ClownHatLinux> ✓ Sub-ccess! "The Hidden Cost of Gold: Birth Defects and Brain Damage" (68 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[13:55:44] <ClownHatLinux> Submitting "The Hidden Cost of Gold: Birth Defects and Brain Damage"...( 1 modified urls; https://www.nytimes.com )
[13:55:42] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.nytimes.com
[13:52:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, chromas, that's not a tag, it's a comment
[13:51:59] <ClownHatLinux> ✓ Sub-ccess! "#Bernieblackout: The Media Isn't Even Hiding Its Anti-Bernie Bias Anymore" (36 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[13:51:37] <ClownHatLinux> Submitting "#Bernieblackout: The Media Isn't Even Hiding Its Anti-Bernie Bias Anymore"...
[13:51:35] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.mintpressnews.com
[13:50:16] <ClownHatLinux> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Who Elected Zuckerberg Head of the Thought Police?" (45 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[13:49:54] <ClownHatLinux> Submitting "Who Elected Zuckerberg Head of the Thought Police?"...
[13:49:52] <Runaway1956> =submit https://therealnews.com
[13:18:51] <janrinok> probably a whoosh on my part
[13:15:34] <carny> i think you missed my joke janrinok ;]
[13:09:33] <janrinok> hi carny - I'm busy at the moment but will chat in a bit
[13:07:35] <carny> so we are enjoying our conversations on hashtag soylent?
[12:16:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 66 Million Year Old Dinosaur Battle Continues in Court - https://sylnt.us - Legalsaurus-Lex
[12:03:37] <Bender> karma - chromas: 262
[12:03:37] <FatPhil> chromas++ gets it
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[09:58:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Elusive Cancer-Related Protein Captured In Flight - https://sylnt.us - thar-she-goes!
[09:29:37] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03YouTube
[09:29:33] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[09:27:12] <chromas> it's a tag that starts with a hash
[09:27:00] <chromas> # isn't a hashtag but #hashtag is
[09:13:24] <FatPhil> now read for comprehension
[09:09:31] <Runaway1956> huh? #stripper isn't a valid hashtag?
[08:57:10] <FatPhil> Stopped reading at "hashtag". It's not a fucking hashtag.
[08:01:36] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03Opinion | A Stripper’s Favorite Client
[08:01:34] <Runaway1956> Interesting read - could make a good submission in an alternate reality - https://www.nytimes.com
[07:55:38] <Runaway1956> Somehow, I suspect that story to be bullshit, but it's a cool headline
[07:55:10] <ClownHatLinux> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Prehistoric Ape From Germany Was a Pioneer of Two-legged Walking" (16 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[07:54:48] <ClownHatLinux> Submitting "Prehistoric ape from Germany was a pioneer of two-legged walking"...( 1 modified urls; https://www.reuters.com )
[07:54:47] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.reuters.com
[07:54:35] <Runaway1956> Blame all the world's problems on the Germans - they did it first!
[07:47:54] <ClownHatLinux> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Julian Assange: The Lynching of the Charismatic Geek - Global Research" (20 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[07:47:33] <ClownHatLinux> Submitting "Julian Assange: The Lynching of the Charismatic Geek - Global Research"...
[07:47:31] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.globalresearch.ca
[07:47:21] <Runaway1956> found it!
[07:45:32] <Runaway1956> Ooooooh, an assange story that has been deleted - looks interesting . . .
[07:39:42] <chromas> chains identifying as ropes now. what's the world coming to?
[07:38:14] <FatPhil> I do want to buy one and then modify it to climb the ~6m to my top rafter.
[07:37:14] <FatPhil> More like a chain than a rope by the looks of it.
[07:36:53] <FatPhil> well, they climb ropes, so they're full of moving parts
[07:36:44] <chromas> yeah, post-season discounts!
[07:36:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Sounds of Mosquito Mating Rituals Could Lead to Quieter Drones - https://sylnt.us - only-sound-I-want-to-hear-is-SPLAT
[07:36:30] <FatPhil> they still sell them into january here.
[07:36:26] <Runaway1956> do they vibrate? Multiple purpose jingle bells
[07:36:03] <FatPhil> battery powered
[07:35:54] <FatPhil> little plastic ones
[07:35:48] <Runaway1956> More like about six weeks FatPhil
[07:35:22] <FatPhil> so I guess it's gonna be 2 months of constant jinglebells in the streets from now on
[07:35:11] <chromas> he had a rope? hope he wasn't near a college campus
[07:34:39] <FatPhil> saw my first rope-climbing santa yesterday
[07:33:14] <chromas> sure it's full of holidays ads now, but after christmas, it'll have new year ads
[07:32:37] <Runaway1956> easier to delete a feed that is full of shit, isn't it?
[07:32:03] <chromas> get yourself some deeplearn ai machine learning neural nets
[07:31:33] <chromas> you just need to install a filter
[07:29:39] <Runaway1956> *delete cnet news feed
[07:29:02] <Runaway1956> Oh, wait - "best gifts for teenage boys" story? Hmmmm - probably teenage girls? Well, in my world, anyway. Today's incels and mgtows may not agree.
[07:27:49] <Runaway1956> I may have to delete that stupid feed, don't know why I included it
[07:27:33] <Runaway1956> *don't submit stories on "best TV gifts for the holidays"
[07:27:10] <Runaway1956> *don'tsubmit stories on "best coffee makers"
[07:26:41] <Runaway1956> *don'tsubmit stories on black friday buys
[07:21:59] <ClownHatLinux> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Empathy Is Tearing Us Apart" (23 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[07:21:37] <ClownHatLinux> Submitting "Empathy Is Tearing Us Apart"...
[07:21:35] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.wired.com
[07:19:24] <ClownHatLinux> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Little-known Aspect of US Copyright Law Means Creators Can Reclaim Their Work" (18 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[07:19:03] <ClownHatLinux> Submitting "Little-known aspect of US copyright law means creators can reclaim their work"...
[07:19:01] <Runaway1956> =submit https://thenextweb.com
[07:14:01] <ClownHatLinux> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Apple Will Fix macOS Flaw Exposing Portions of Encrypted Emails" (4 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[07:13:39] <ClownHatLinux> Submitting "Apple will fix macOS flaw exposing portions of encrypted emails"...
[07:13:38] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.engadget.com
[07:10:10] <ClownHatLinux> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Hitting the Books: Did the Advent of the First Desktop Computer Lead to Murder?" (14 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[07:09:48] <ClownHatLinux> Submitting "Hitting the Books: Did the advent of the first desktop computer lead to murder?"...
[07:09:47] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.engadget.com
[07:01:42] <ClownHatLinux> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Vitamin E Acetate Found in All Lung Fluid Samples Tested From Injured Vapers" (13 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[07:01:21] <ClownHatLinux> Submitting "Vitamin E acetate found in all lung fluid samples tested from injured vapers"...
[07:01:19] <Runaway1956> =submit https://arstechnica.com
[06:57:24] <ClownHatLinux> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Why More Than 168,000 Valentine’s Day Text Messages Arrived in November" (20 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[06:57:20] <Runaway1956> Mmmm - maybe I should look at submissions queue . . .
[06:57:02] <ClownHatLinux> Submitting "Why more than 168,000 Valentine’s day text messages arrived in November"...
[06:57:01] <Runaway1956> =submit https://arstechnica.com
[06:54:52] <ClownHatLinux> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Great Apes Pass a False-belief Test, Hinting at a Theory of Mind" (9 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[06:54:30] <ClownHatLinux> Submitting "Great apes pass a false-belief test, hinting at a theory of mind"...
[06:54:28] <Runaway1956> =submit https://arstechnica.com
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[04:40:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> should be able to spot it if we have prollems overnight
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[04:40:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> error logs tailing on both web frontends piped into a "grep css"
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[04:40:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, all the cluster nodes restarted and humming along
[04:22:47] <NotSanguine> TheMightyBuzzard: Seems okay now. Will let you know if that changes. And thanks again!
[04:20:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> if it happens again, ping me here. have the log up watching.
[04:20:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> bounced the web frontends for good measure
[04:19:15] <NotSanguine> I'll let you do your thing TheMightyBuzzard. And thank you!
[04:18:27] <NotSanguine> A different node, apparently.
[04:18:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> just started restarting node 3
[04:17:18] <NotSanguine> TheMightyBuzzard: And now CSS is back. Because you fixed it or because I'm on a different node now.
[04:16:02] <NotSanguine> will reload pages a few times if you'd like
[04:15:54] <NotSanguine> I see that. No CSS right now
[04:15:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> node 2 is having "issues"
[04:08:27] <NotSanguine> Bytram, TheMightyBuzzard: I guess it was something odd on my end, even if clearing cache and restarting the browser didn't seem to make a difference. I appreciate your time and attention.
[04:07:44] <Bytram> Now *that* is a nice, round number!
[04:07:24] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 360
[04:07:24] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++ thanks for tending the site's plumbing!
[04:06:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> afk a few for nicotine while node 2 restarts
[04:05:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> you win
[04:05:13] * exec sneakily passes a hatful of politics to TheMightyBuzzard
[04:05:11] <Bytram> ~gnight TheMightyBuzzard
[04:05:10] <NotSanguine> ''night bytram
[04:05:06] * exec insatiably cracks open a cheap plastic cup of brass hooks for Bytram
[04:05:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gnight Bytram
[04:05:00] <exec> <Bytram> That's going to have to do it for me as I need to hit the sack. Hope things work out okay!
[04:05:00] <NotSanguine> TheMightyBuzzard, Bytram: did you guys bounce the front-ends or was it all in my head?
[04:04:59] <Bytram> s/r a/r me a/
[04:04:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm in the process of bouncing the ndb nodes, so it's running off a cluster of one until i'm done
[04:04:39] <Bytram> That's going to have to do it for as I need to hit the sack. Hope things work out okay!
[04:03:53] <NotSanguine> At this point, Vivaldi (2.6.1566.49) and IE11 (windows 7) and Midori 6.0 (Fedora 30) as well as firefox all seem fine.
[04:00:51] <Bytram> NotSanguine: HTH! (Even if it is from the sidelines.)
[04:00:27] <chromas> They actually could stand to be bugged a lot more, so stop by any time :)
[03:59:51] <NotSanguine> Bytram, TheMightyBuzzard: Thanks! I wouldn't bug you guys if I hadn't tried to resolve it on my end first.
[03:59:33] <chromas> Firefox ESR vs Chromium RMS
[03:58:31] <NotSanguine> I suppose it could be just on my end -- the first time I cleared my cache and reloaded (15 mins ago or so) I got CSS again. Then it went away again. Perhaps not all of the front-ends were affected?
[03:58:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> hrm... seeing a db error in the logs. gonna look into it.
[03:57:16] * Bytram just reloaded his messages inbox... all is fine
[03:57:10] <NotSanguine> I loaded a bunch of pages and all seems okay.
[03:56:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> figures. won't break while i'm watching the log
[03:56:32] <NotSanguine> Did so. I have CSS again.
[03:56:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> NotSanguine, load it again right now if you would
[03:56:04] <NotSanguine> Firefox 60.6.2ESR on Windows 7.
[03:55:27] <Bytram> and which OS?
[03:55:22] <Bytram> NotSanguine: which browser are you using?
[03:55:03] <NotSanguine> Bytram, TheMightyBuzzard: I was away (still logged in) for several hours and when I returned, I started seeing this. Maybe 10 or 15 minutes ago. ctrl-f5 has no effect for me
[03:55:01] * TheMightyBuzzard shurgs
[03:54:56] <Bytram> again? After about 1/2 day?
[03:54:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, not especially. that generally means it's time to bounce hydrogen and fluorine frontends
[03:54:24] * Bytram tries reloading the main page with a hard load "Ctrl+F5"... and it looks fine from my end (fwiw, I am using Pale Moon on win 7 Pro x64)
[03:53:08] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: ^^^ any ideas?/ ISTR that janrinok reported same thing early this AM. I bounced the frontends something like 12-14 hours ago.
[03:53:03] <NotSanguine> I've cleared my cache/cookies a few times, but no soap. :(
[03:50:36] <NotSanguine> hey bytram. I'm repeatedly loading pages without CSS on the site. Not every single page load, but more often than not. Perhaps there's an issue with one (or more) of the servers?
[03:49:11] <exec> it has been only 7 seconds since the last submission - please wait
[03:49:08] <Bytram> ~arthur https://www.sciencedaily.com
[03:48:39] <chromas> the narrator sounds like the guy from that mormon cartoon
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[03:42:11] <ClownHatLinux> https://en.wikipedia.org - Space Launch System - Wikipedia
[03:42:10] <Bytram> =g wikipedia SLS
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[03:39:20] <Sirfinkus> fucking shit sound engineer at the beginning too
[03:38:44] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03YouTube
[03:38:40] <Sirfinkus> https://www.youtube.com
[03:37:34] <Sirfinkus> it's like those "seconds from disaster" shows you get on discovery, except condensed to 15 minutes and with no bullshit drama
[03:36:11] <Sirfinkus> carry on
[03:36:09] <Sirfinkus> oh wait, I've been watching Chemical Safety Board videos the past hour and a half
[03:35:13] <Sirfinkus> NERDS
[03:27:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha! how did i not think of this shit until just now? https://www.amazon.com
[03:20:11] <chromas> The newer ones don't have 3 hour cutscenes though :(
[03:14:55] <Sirfinkus> I probably should play some of those at some point
[03:14:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine time
[03:13:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> damn, they made a lot of metal gear games i never even heard of
[03:12:40] <Sirfinkus> naw, not really
[03:12:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> miss the snake?
[03:12:10] <Sirfinkus> now I'm depressed, thanks
[03:11:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> why, was it solid?
[03:11:49] <Sirfinkus> hey, watch it with that
[03:11:46] <Bytram> biab
[03:11:34] * MrPlow smakes Sirfinkus upside the head with a metal gear
[03:11:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smake Sirfinkus
[03:11:11] <Bytram> so that looks like something like Dec 21st.
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[03:10:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, there's lots of good ones in the ds
[03:10:16] <Bytram> so you are looking at the better part of 6 weeks until we get to 'duh', assuming my 36 chars estimate is correct.
[03:09:25] <Bytram> or about 95 stories per week
[03:09:08] <Bytram> We do about 15 stories per day on weekdays and about 10 per day on weekends.
[03:07:35] <Bytram> 16 * 36 is ~ 576 stories?
[03:07:08] <Bytram> if you really want to skip 'doh' and aim for 'duh', you've got pqrstu which is another ~6*36 stories
[03:06:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> man, i needa make a page for searching the shortened link db
[03:05:58] <Bytram> so... from 'deh' to 'd[fghijklmno]h' would be ~10 * 36 stories
[03:05:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> so, a few weeks
[03:05:10] <Bytram> so... from 'deh' to 'dih' would be ~72 stories
[03:05:01] <Bytram> so... from 'deh' to 'dfh' would be ~36 stories
[03:04:40] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03martyb - SoylentNews User ( https://soylentnews.org )
[03:04:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://sylnt.us
[03:04:38] <Bytram> so... from 'ded' to 'dfd' would be ~36 stories
[03:04:02] <Bytram> I'll leave it to you to remind us when we are getting closer... there's something like three dozen chars rotated through each character position.
[03:03:58] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03YOURLS — Your Own URL Shortener | https://sylnt.us ( https://sylnt.us )
[03:03:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://sylnt.us
[03:02:33] <Bytram> lol
[03:02:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> hey, *i* ain't the one who timed it
[03:02:28] <Bytram> all the better to get the wrinkles out
[03:02:09] * Bytram fixes TheMightyBuzzard with a steely gaze
[03:01:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> that's some irony right there
[03:01:31] <Bytram> oh, you are looking WAY far ahead.
[03:01:26] * TheMightyBuzzard facepalms
[03:01:15] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03On the Road to Recovery after a Minor Stroke - SoylentNews ( https://soylentnews.org )
[03:01:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://sylnt.us
[03:00:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> o comes after e
[03:00:42] <Bytram> huh? We should have hit that one by now!
[03:00:21] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03YOURLS — Your Own URL Shortener | https://sylnt.us ( https://sylnt.us )
[03:00:20] <Bytram> https://sylnt.us
[02:59:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, we have 'duh' coming up relatively soon on the link shortener. be nice if we had story that fit the shortened url.
[02:58:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - In U.S. First, Scientists Safely Edit Cancer Patients’ Cells With CRISPR - https://sylnt.us - crispy-patients
[02:57:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm going stainless for the kitchen island/counter/whatzit. wood's pretty but stainless is a fuckload more durable, easier to clean, and doesn't care if you have to set a hot as shit pan on it.
[02:55:13] * MrPlow smakes TheMightyBuzzard with a burlap bag of sawdust soaked in linseed oil. upside the head with a one-eyed snake
[02:55:13] <Bytram> #smake TheMightyBuzzard with a burlap bag of sawdust soaked in linseed oil.
[02:53:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> no air-tight. you gotta let em breathe free. store on a mound of sawdust for safety.
[02:52:44] <Bytram> I'm especially remembering such a warning when it came to linseed oil.
[02:52:22] <Bytram> air-tight container
[02:52:08] <Bytram> self-combusting or somesuch term that escapes me atm
[02:52:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, make sure and store them all in one container by your neighbor's shed
[02:51:59] <AzumaHazuki> also, glad to hear you're doing better :)
[02:51:53] <AzumaHazuki> i used disposable foam brushes for this
[02:51:31] <Bytram> be careful with the used rags... could be a fire hazard
[02:50:53] <AzumaHazuki> what i got was a little can of Watco brush-on oil
[02:50:29] <AzumaHazuki> iiiick
[02:48:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> might slightly alter the flavor but butcherblock oil is foodsafe even right out of the box. you could cook in it but it wouldn't taste great.
[02:45:32] <AzumaHazuki> this table is going to be strictly prep. flour/water/egg is going right on the surface. so the wait time and wash to get all the solvent out is kinda important
[02:44:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> tablecloth, doily, fabric placemats, etc...
[02:41:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, the oil isn't going to hurt any food or whatnot but it could still stain things that like to absorb oil.
[02:31:00] <AzumaHazuki> my one gripe is apparently you have to wait 72 hours after the last coat, and then wipe down with soap and water, before using
[02:22:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> easy repair finish as well
[02:10:28] <AzumaHazuki> and can then make delicious Slav goodness...pelmeni, chebureki, and so on
[02:10:03] <AzumaHazuki> there. 320-grit sand and second coat of butcher block oil on. with any luck i will have a cheap and cheerful kitchen table by end of the week
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[01:20:57] <RandomFactor> Two things can be true at onces
[01:19:24] <chromas> Would that be better or worse than if it was coded by Google?
[01:18:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> more worrisome, if it was coded by microsoft
[01:01:03] <RandomFactor> More worrisome if it was coded by fraudsters
[00:52:39] <chromas> But what if the AI was installed by fraudsters?
[00:26:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - AI Will Now Watch for Fraudsters on the World’s Largest Stock Exchange - https://sylnt.us - doesn't-mean-that-it-will-catch-them