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[00:01:00] <AzumaHazuki> i kinda wouldn't have guesses you were a weeb. and this from the girl who named herself after a time-traveling lesbian from an obscure anime, so...
[00:02:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> well db* ain't my favorite anime franchise but it's perfectly serviceable mindless cartoons.
[00:03:11] <chromas> See he can't be a real weeb. He called it a cartoon
[00:03:39] <AzumaHazuki> you've probably watched way the hell more anime than me
[00:04:20] <AzumaHazuki> i think i watched...6? mostly short-running yuri series
[00:04:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> i can't do it. i was going to go on a trolling tear touting pokemon as the greatest anime of all time but i'd have to kick my own ass.
[00:05:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> death note's pretty damned good
[00:05:58] <AzumaHazuki> you need more yuri in your life. Maria-sama ga Miteru. Watching slowly is preferred here
[00:06:06] * AzumaHazuki maaaaaaay be a little biased
[00:06:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> powerpuff girls z, not really but again, perfectly good mindless humor
[00:06:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - In Review of Fatal Arizona Crash, U.S. Agency Says Uber Software Had Flaws - https://sylnt.us - just-switch-off-and-start-it-again
[00:07:15] <AzumaHazuki> Looney Tunes is still my favorite overall for that. they don't make them like that anymore
[00:07:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> naw, i get bored with just lesbians. that's why we make chromas stay in here all the time.
[00:07:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth.
[00:07:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> bugs++
[00:07:41] <Bender> karma - bugs: -6
[00:07:57] * Bytram has 5 god-awful long bar codes that he had taken pictures of, and now wants to generate, instead. Is wondering how to find out what type it is and how to generate it.
[00:08:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> wileecoyote++
[00:08:19] <Bender> karma - wileecoyote: 2
[00:08:28] <AzumaHazuki> yuri doesn't mean porn, you know. it can, but usually doesn't
[00:08:34] <Bytram> wileecoyote++
[00:08:34] <Bender> karma - wileecoyote: 3
[00:08:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt wile e coyote great divide
[00:08:39] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[00:08:39] <Bytram> acme++
[00:08:39] <Bender> karma - acme: 1
[00:08:41] <AzumaHazuki> Marimite is clean enough to eat your dinner off of
[00:08:52] <Bytram> #yt acme
[00:08:52] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[00:08:58] <Bytram> https://www.youtube.com
[00:09:02] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03YouTube
[00:09:07] <Bytram> lol
[00:09:33] <AzumaHazuki> ...though you will probably find yourself groaning at the screen for Sei to stop being so uptight and just ask Shimako out already...whoops, too late, Noriko got her
[00:09:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> relationships bore me unless there's sex or violence too. it's like eggs without salt or pepper.
[00:10:41] <AzumaHazuki> is this a guy thing, or a you thing? :v
[00:11:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> see, we'd have a lot lower divorce rate if married folks got random ninja attacks to spice things up
[00:12:02] <AzumaHazuki> on account of people being dead due to ninja attacks?
[00:12:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> probably a guy thing. i like some good drama but it needs something else too or ima be bored.
[00:12:21] <AzumaHazuki> that's what the fanart is for :)
[00:12:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> well that or they could be wedgie ninjas. harmless but annoying so you've both got a common goal aside from ordinary old boring shat like balancing the checkbook.
[00:14:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt 1000 years of death
[00:14:07] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[00:16:10] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Why not both and try your luck with Elektra?
[00:17:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> i dig elektra just fine. kinda digging the new batwoman series too.
[00:17:22] <Bytram> as far as I can tell, it looks like I've got some "Code 128" bar codes: https://en.wikipedia.org
[00:17:23] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03Code 128 - Wikipedia
[00:17:34] <Bytram> now to figure how to generate 'em
[00:19:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> find a barcode font
[00:20:04] <Bytram> not even close
[00:20:31] <Bytram> different barcodes use different encodings/thicknesses/spacings
[00:20:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://blort.org
[00:20:54] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03Barcode.pm
[00:21:33] <chromas> there's also a tool probably just called barcode in your linux repo
[00:21:51] <Bytram> I suppose if you have the correct font, it would be kinda possible, but then you have checksums and check digits to contend with, too.
[00:21:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> shush! i'm trying to inflict perl upon him!
[00:22:04] <Bytram> #smake TheMightyBuzzard
[00:22:05] * MrPlow smakes TheMightyBuzzard upside the head with janrinok's other tooth
[00:22:15] <Bytram> ::chuckles::
[00:22:21] <Bytram> sorry JR!
[00:22:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> believe it or not, fonts can do that. they have way, way too much ability to do shit they never should have been able to.
[00:23:14] <chromas> I wonder if anybody's made a n irc bot in font
[00:23:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> ttfs anyway
[00:23:24] <chromas> muh microcodes
[00:24:04] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: now that you mention it, ISTR some guy trying to write some kind of a program in a font
[00:24:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, finished watching house. time for a smoke and a sammich and some batwoman.
[00:24:57] <Bytram> #sammich TheMightyBuzzard
[00:24:57] * MrPlow sneaks up behind TheMightyBuzzard and cuts their throat
[00:24:57] * MrPlow fixes thinly sliced TheMightyBuzzard's corpse sammiches for everyone in #soylent
[00:24:59] <Bytram> #sammich batwoman
[00:24:59] * MrPlow looks around but does not see batwoman
[00:25:09] <Bytram> #sammich TheMightyBuzzard batwoman
[00:25:09] * MrPlow looks around but does not see TheMightyBuzzard batwoman
[00:25:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> she's sneaky like batman
[00:25:35] <Bytram> like a cat burglar
[00:25:47] <Bytram> but who would want to go around stealing cats?
[00:25:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> and eats at the Y like AzumaHazuki. at least since the mid 2ks.
[00:26:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> catwoman
[00:26:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> duh
[00:28:11] <AzumaHazuki> batwoman is a lesbian?
[00:28:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> batwoman i have no objection to them gaying up strictly for virtue signaling purposes. she was a cocktacular character when she was straight.
[00:28:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup. comics and tv series.
[00:28:35] <AzumaHazuki> i've never followed any of this. seems like trendy virtue-signalling BS
[00:28:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> is but see above
[00:29:02] <AzumaHazuki> not quite as bad as Rowling suddenly deciding Albus Dumbledore was gay though. after he was safely celibate, old, and dead
[00:29:04] <Bytram> hmmm, I wonder if this will do the trick?
[00:29:05] <Bytram> http://www.barcodelink.net
[00:29:05] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03Barcode Font - Completely Free Download of code 3 of 9 and 128 Barcode Fonts
[00:29:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> she got rolled up back in the 50s or early 60s, i forget, when they were doing superboy, superdog, superparakeet, etc... and decided batman needed a whole baseball team worth too.
[00:30:44] <Bytram> superparakeet++
[00:30:44] <Bender> karma - superparakeet: 1
[00:30:50] <Bytram> Thanks for the laugh
[00:30:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> she was gayer when she was straight than when she got retcon'd to be homosexual
[00:31:20] <AzumaHazuki> would be amazing if they had, like, actual gay women as writers for gay women characters
[00:31:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's hollywood, fair chance they got several.
[00:31:41] <AzumaHazuki> but no, comics and such are the last half-respectable refuge of manchildren. so it's all male fantasy
[00:32:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, you ain't watched them lately then. supergirl writers hate men.
[00:33:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> i hadda quit watching it even though i'll watch damned near anything superheroish
[00:33:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> hell, i liked the catwoman movie
[00:33:54] <AzumaHazuki> lesbians aren't man-haters by definition you know. it's about natural love of other women, not artificial hatred of men
[00:34:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> i know but those writers are. it comes through loud n clear.
[00:34:17] <AzumaHazuki> because let me tell you, honey, if people could choose? there would not be one single straight girl on the planet. the real man-haters are straight women
[00:34:25] <AzumaHazuki> 'cause they have no choice, they need men
[00:34:42] <AzumaHazuki> that must rankle like horrible heartburn
[00:34:49] * chromas imagines a raised finger and wagging head at "let me tell you, honey"
[00:35:11] <AzumaHazuki> neither of those were needed
[00:35:30] <AzumaHazuki> just imagine an eye roll that causes cramps in the ocular muscles
[00:35:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> without men, straight women would never get to stick a pickle in their mouth
[00:35:57] <chromas> You know what's really gross though is sweet pickles
[00:36:23] <AzumaHazuki> Blasphemer
[00:36:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> fu, chromas! why don't you hop in your little red boat and row back to china?
[00:37:07] * TheMightyBuzzard was talking about opening pickle jars but couldn't resist the phrasing
[00:37:08] <chromas> Aha! I found something AzumaHazuki and TheMightyBuzzard can both agree on
[00:37:26] <chromas> !grab TheMightyBuzzard
[00:37:26] <Bender> Added quote 920
[00:37:49] <AzumaHazuki> opening pickle jars isn't too hard, just smack the bottom a couple of times and grip with a rubber glove if it's stubborn
[00:38:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> you're gifted. your troll skills are so high that you could get muslims and jews to quit fighting each other and fight you.
[00:38:55] <AzumaHazuki> LOL, what. Me? Good grief no, not even the threat of nuclear annihilation could do that
[00:39:08] <AzumaHazuki> wish it would. the abrahamic religions are going to be our Great Filter
[00:39:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, chromas.
[00:39:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> he only uses his powers for his own amusement though.
[00:39:55] <Bytram> http://www.barcodelink.net
[00:40:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> neat
[00:40:20] * Bytram is trying to figure out how to use that font on Win 7 Pro X64
[00:40:38] * chromas gives Bytram https://www.gnu.org
[00:40:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, really an hungrified and in need of some nicotine.
[00:40:43] * TheMightyBuzzard buggers off
[00:40:51] * Bytram clicks
[00:42:18] <Bytram> chromas: seems to be designed to work on Linux.
[00:42:43] <chromas> Conveniently, you just installed linux
[00:43:04] <chromas> You'll have to add a lin box into whatever you're doing
[00:43:48] <chromas> Set up a whole ubuntu server with systemd and apache just to provide a perl script that provides barcodes-as-a-service for your other scripts
[00:44:28] <chromas> or it might compile on windows with mingw
[00:47:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, put it on boron and output the files to ~/public_html/
[00:48:40] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: that is a nice thought but I am too knackered to contemplate doing that atm... first day back at work and it was more tiring than I had hoped.
[00:49:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> opie dopie. batwoman n sammich time for me then.
[00:55:10] <Bytram> doh! Need to *install* a font on windows, not just copy the .ttf file into \windows\fonts\
[00:55:49] <chromas> Does installing do anything more?
[00:57:04] <AzumaHazuki> probably writes its name in the registry in its own piss or something
[00:57:11] <Bytram> prolly updates some internal structures in windows
[00:58:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> runs fc-cache -f -v?
[01:02:01] <chromas> he's on windows so it's probably some registry thing
[01:04:36] <Bytram> and... it looks like I'll need to restart Pale Moon for it to know the font is out there.
[01:05:45] <Bytram> and now /me needs to restore session with 84 tabs
[01:06:38] <chromas> just open a new pale moon instance instead
[01:06:59] <chromas> palemoon --new-instance
[01:07:31] <Bytram> how does one find what cmdline args PM has?
[01:07:40] <Bytram> chromas++
[01:07:40] <Bender> karma - chromas: 261
[01:08:16] <chromas> palemoon --help
[01:08:22] <chromas> or -h
[01:08:22] <Bytram> and now to find out what font-family name I need to use in order to make it work.
[01:08:34] <chromas> What's the name of the font?
[01:08:34] <Bytram> oh
[01:09:03] <Bytram> this one: http://www.barcodelink.net
[01:09:06] <chromas> not sure if / works for parameters on windows
[01:09:59] <Bytram> ususally, on windows, cmdname /? is the default way to ask a cmd for help
[01:10:16] <Bytram> break time
[01:10:36] <chromas> probably just code128
[01:11:14] <Bytram> no joy.
[01:12:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> bwahahaha! "you're batsplaining"
[01:13:28] <Bytram> This time for sure... Break time.
[01:13:35] <Bytram> afk
[01:13:37] <AzumaHazuki> is that when you just squeak and flap around a lot and maybe drop a few bits of guano?
[01:13:52] <chromas> guano++
[01:13:52] <Bender> karma - guano: 1
[01:16:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> was where lucius fox's nephew or kid or something was annoying batwoman with gadget explanations she already knew.
[01:27:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, yall missed some quality funny by living in all parts non-TN. TR's 12 year old girl child was out roller skating with her friends and TEXTS her mother that she's decided she's pansexual.
[01:27:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> parental wtfs did abound.
[01:28:19] <AzumaHazuki> mom's probably locking up all the kitchenware
[01:28:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> i know, right? nobody wants their cookware to have bodily fluids on them.
[01:29:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> all things considered they didn't do badly with that talk but i still had to fix it.
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[01:32:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> splained to her that *sexual are just terms that take an extremely complex human being and boil them down to one rather unimportant aspect. the only word that says who she really is is $name. if she wants to kiss a girl, kiss a girl. if she wants to kiss a boy, kiss a boy. if she wants to have sex with either, i'll wrap her in duct tape and stuff her in the closet until she's thirty.
[01:34:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> also clued her in that it's her first for real and for true adult decision. her mom gets no say in who she's attracted to, ditto dad, and her friends who are all declaring they're $whatever because it's trendy damned sure don't get a say.
[01:34:59] <Bytram> #yt I kissed a girl
[01:35:00] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[01:35:15] <Bytram> https://www.youtube.com
[01:35:19] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03YouTube
[01:38:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Boeing Performs Starliner Pad Abort Test. Declares Success Though 1 of 3 Parachutes Fails to Deploy. - https://sylnt.us - 2-out-of-3-ain't-bad
[01:38:51] <Bytram> https://www.youtube.com
[01:38:56] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03YouTube
[01:39:20] <Bytram> chromas: your bot seems to ignore the page title?
[01:40:16] <Bytram> btw, and fwiw, that vid has had: 2,514,972,652 views
[01:42:53] <Bytram> https://www.youtube.com
[01:42:58] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03YouTube
[01:43:19] <Bytram> and that one has had: 2,840,360,917 views!
[01:52:02] <chromas> Bytram: Did you try "Code 128" for the font family string?
[01:52:10] <Bytram> yes
[01:52:26] <Bytram> BTW, seems that the text needs to be encoded, too.
[01:52:26] <chromas> When I try it in a web page it just seems to change the line spacing a bit
[01:52:38] <chromas> perhaps firewaterfox doesn't font very well
[01:53:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> god damn you, youtube. i want to watch one video and you suck me down the rabbit hole for weeks.
[01:53:39] <Bytram> but using Firebug with Pale moon, where it auto-completes font-family names for you, can't find anything that starts with "C" except Consolas, Comic Sans, etc. No "code..." anything
[01:59:17] <chromas> You'll probably have to reinstall Windows
[02:00:21] <chromas> "Congratulations [email_name], Select from several exclusive offer rewards!"
[02:00:27] <chromas> Seems legit
[02:01:17] <Bytram> lol
[02:02:02] <Bytram> think I found an on-line site that actually works...
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[02:17:49] <chromas> heh, barcode = dum. I pass - for stdout and it just writes a file
[02:18:10] <chromas> also, rm doesn't appear able to delete a file called --
[02:18:23] <chromas> even with quotes or backslashes
[02:18:32] <chromas> gnu--
[02:18:32] <Bender> karma - gnu: 1
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[02:41:39] <Bytram> chromas: So, for a code 128 barcode, this *seems* to work: https://barcode.tec-it.com
[02:41:41] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03Free Online Barcode Generator: Code-128
[02:42:50] <chromas> I made a crappy little script to poop out barcodes but when I set Content-Type: application/postscript then firefox says 404, which is weird
[02:42:59] <Bytram> and for "GS1-128 (UCC/EAN-128)", try: https://barcode.tec-it.com
[02:43:01] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03Free Online Barcode Generator: GS1-128 (UCC/EAN-128)
[02:43:19] <chromas> Are you trying to integrate that into something or do you just need a couple codes and that's it?
[02:44:04] <Bytram> with Pale Moon, I can right click on the bar code image, select "Copy image location" and that is the data string I need to post into the img src attribute.
[02:44:09] <Bytram> the latter
[02:44:15] <Bytram> only needed 5 codes
[02:45:34] <chromas> https://barcode.tec-it.com at Bytram&code=Code128&dpi=96&dataseparator=
[02:45:55] <chromas> probably needs some %20s to make the link clickable
[02:46:06] <chromas> https://barcode.tec-it.com
[02:46:13] <Bytram> I had 5 bar codes from work of which I had taken pictures, but was concerned that a printout of them might not scan, so was trying to create 'fresh' ones, so there was no worry about image being titled a little or keystoning, or whatever
[02:46:51] <Bytram> so, used that tool to create BCs of both codes, and along with my pics, put 'em all on a single page.
[02:47:03] <Bytram> will bring it to work and them see how it goes.
[02:47:09] <Bytram> brb
[02:47:10] <chromas> those barcodes don't look quite right. there's supposed to be some blank space on the sides that's considered part of the code
[02:48:38] <Bytram> I guess I'll find out!
[02:48:44] <Bytram> sure appreciate the help!
[02:49:25] <Bytram> as it is, I'm tired, and think I've gone above and beyond on this one, so am gonna call it 'good enough' until I find out otherwise.
[02:49:35] <chromas> Now you gotta make a script to curl the site's api
[02:50:00] <Bytram> well, I kinda already did that, but I used wget. =)
[02:52:59] <chromas> !fight curl vs wget
[02:53:06] <chromas> no ciri :(
[02:54:01] <Bytram> long ago, for the first (and only) time ever, I blocked a user on IRC: ciri
[02:54:55] <chromas> poor ciri
[02:55:01] <Bytram> okay, here is a link to the root of the barcode generator page: https://barcode.tec-it.com
[02:55:03] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03Free Online Barcode Generator: Create Barcodes for Free!
[02:55:40] <chromas> Looks like they're using asp scripts. ew
[02:55:56] * chromas says while using phpoo
[02:56:43] <Bytram> does require allowing scripts to run from: tec-it.com, googletagmanager.com, and ajax.googleapis.com
[02:57:54] <Bytram> darn!
[02:58:17] <Bytram> gonna need some more stories pushed out if we are going to make it through the night.
[02:58:37] <Bytram> ima take a short break and then take a look at what I can do about that.
[02:58:43] <Bytram> afk
[02:59:52] <chromas> well you just need the image url
[03:00:14] <chromas> https://barcode.tec-it.com
[03:00:34] <chromas> then parameters data, code, dpi=96 and maybe dataseparator
[03:00:52] <chromas> s/=96//
[03:05:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - FCC Crackdown on Cellphone Subsidies Leaves Millions Without Service - https://sylnt.us - I'd-call-and-complain...oh
[03:06:49] <pinchy> dat mark of da beast
[03:14:35] <chromas> Bytram: if you have an Android phone or tablet, you can install Barcode Scanner (available in F-Droid) and it'll tell you what the bar/dot code type is
[03:15:14] <Bytram> chromas: appreciate that thanks!
[03:15:55] <chromas> pinchy: you joke, but just you wait until jesus cums again and you're stuck in hell being buttpounded by satan while burning alive forever and ever and ever because you didn't beliebe! Hah! Jesus loves you.
[03:19:38] <pinchy> ok
[03:20:07] <pinchy> my new catch-all response to blog like chats: ok
[03:20:19] <Bytram> =g state ok
[03:20:20] <ClownHatLinux> https://en.wikipedia.org - Oklahoma - Wikipedia
[03:20:23] <chromas> k
[03:22:57] <ClownHatLinux> k
[03:23:21] <exec> ok
[03:26:59] <Bytram> kek
[03:27:43] <chromas> Bytram = shitlord -> confirmed
[03:28:04] <Bytram> huh?
[03:28:28] <Bytram> isn't 'kek' a gaming term for 'lol'??
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[03:29:42] <chromas> in old times, but now it means you're a nazi
[03:29:56] <Bytram> oh, won't be using that again.
[03:29:59] <chromas> much like the okay gesture
[03:30:01] <chromas> ;)
[03:30:49] <chromas> Nah, you can use it. We're immune to political shitposting around here
[03:31:36] * chromas ruins everyone's fun
[04:56:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ranked-Choice Voting Adopted in New York City, Along With Other Ballot Measures - https://sylnt.us - the-people's-choice
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[07:55:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Several Blasts of Arctic Cold Will Bring an Early Winter to Millions Across the US - https://sylnt.us - build-more-wind-farms-to-push-it-back
[09:26:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Walmart Reaches Settlement with Tesla Over Solar Panel Fires, Drops Lawsuit - https://sylnt.us - just-in-time-to-make-things-safe-for-santa
[10:24:11] <FatPhil> ~weather Tallinn
[10:24:12] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[10:24:40] <FatPhil> #weather Tallinn
[10:24:42] <MrPlow> Kesklinn, Tallinn, Estonia - Today: "Overcast throughout the day." 35/32F, Humidity: 82%, Precip: 25%, Wind ~12mph. Fri: "Mostly cloudy throughout the day." 43/40F, Humidity: 91%, Precip: 17%, Wind ~6mph. Sat: "Possible drizzle overnight." 47/43F, Humidity: 90%, Precip: 28%, Wind ~10mph.
[10:29:03] <chromas> https://github.com
[10:29:04] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03robertdavidgraham/masscan
[11:05:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Boeing's Lunar Lander Pitch Promises 'Fastest Path' to the Moon - https://sylnt.us
[11:09:48] <FatPhil> overheard on way to lunch ".. is there any lunch in this piece-a-shit town?" location: https://www.openstreetmap.org (and every beer glass and every coctail glass is a place that does food at lunchtime).
[11:09:50] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03OpenStreetMap ( https://www.openstreetmap.org )
[12:21:36] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:21:36] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5027
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[12:35:49] <szopin_> weird, now it works
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[12:36:56] <szopin> tried previously and it wouldn't connect
[12:38:12] <Bytram> szopin: glad you finally made it!
[12:38:59] <Bytram> are you using the web interface from the site link for IRC: http://chat.soylentnews.org
[12:38:59] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03SoylentNews Web IRC (Iris) ( https://chat.soylentnews.org )
[12:39:16] <szopin> Yeah
[12:39:18] <Bytram> huh? That's "HTTP" w/o the "S"!??
[12:39:35] <szopin> though I couldn't connect previously, but was trying from either FAQ or About page
[12:39:37] <Bytram> works, anyway, but really should be updated
[12:39:49] <szopin> still checking now it seems to have same link, was the server up all the time?
[12:40:02] <Bytram> just poking in to take a look, or is there something
[12:40:06] <szopin> with s
[12:40:09] <Bytram> just poking in to take a look, or is there something I could help you with?
[12:40:18] <Bytram> yes
[12:40:26] <Bytram> yes, it was up all the time.
[12:40:29] <szopin> Is the favicon copyrighted or can it be used in a sn browser app?
[12:40:59] <Bytram> all our code is up on github, but what do you have in mind?
[12:41:16] <szopin> I've made a simple native browser on sailfishOS
[12:41:28] <szopin> having some issues with the API, raised an issue on github
[12:41:36] <Bytram> hmmmm
[12:41:46] <szopin> also having ugly as hell icon right now so was thinking about using the favicon
[12:42:14] <szopin> so wanted to check with you guys if it's fine or better to make my own
[12:43:03] <Bytram> understandable, but not a call that I can make on my own. Our chief-herder-of-cats would be the one... I
[12:43:17] <Bytram> I'll put out a feeler...
[12:43:26] <szopin> thanks!
[12:43:31] <Bytram> hmm, do you have a nick on the site?
[12:43:36] <szopin> szopin
[12:43:40] <Bytram> k
[12:43:48] <Bytram> just a minute
[12:44:04] <Bytram> btw, sounds like a kewel project
[12:44:13] <szopin> created a journal entry about IRC, though now bit pointless as it seems to work
[12:44:45] <szopin> I've got the rss feed working atm, was thinking about pulling th ecomments from the API for better readability than webview
[12:45:28] <szopin> but neither latest stories are being returned and can't even get the comments op to work, so not sure if it'll happen :)
[12:45:47] <Bytram> did you submit a bug respecting tid using the API to get the latest story
[12:46:12] <szopin> https://github.com
[12:46:13] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03Issues with the API · Issue #476 · SoylentNews/rehash
[12:46:25] <Bytram> I may have something... bear with me for a couple minutes
[12:46:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - RIP OG Pixel: Google Ends Support After Just Three Years - https://sylnt.us - rip
[12:46:31] <szopin> cool
[12:48:02] <Bytram> szopin: So, it is not so much retrieving a particular story, but finding out what the latest story *is*?
[12:49:05] <szopin> I was hoping to replace the rss feed with api calls, so not sure how to get latest stories, the example in ApiDocs requires tid
[12:49:42] <szopin> So might combine RSS for latest stories and then just add an option to browse topics, but here the sid/stoid doesn't seem to work to pull comments
[12:51:37] <Bytram> szopin: is the "real email" address (not shown publicly) one you can be reached at?
[12:51:50] <szopin> let me check
[12:52:12] <Bytram> szopin: is the "real email" address (not shown publicly) in your user account settings one you can be reached at or is it a throw-away address?
[12:52:15] <szopin> yeah should work, it's mostly spam address, can use just my nickname at gmail too
[12:53:44] <Bytram> so...
[12:53:47] <Bytram> szopin
[12:53:49] <Bytram> (at)
[12:53:51] <Bytram> gmail
[12:53:53] <szopin> yup
[12:53:53] <Bytram> (dot)
[12:53:54] <Bytram> com
[12:53:56] <Bytram> ??\
[12:53:59] <szopin> yeah
[12:54:01] <Bytram> k
[12:54:23] <Bytram> consider 'em asked!
[12:54:32] <szopin> gonna go afk for now, not sure if laptop will keep awake though, so might dc, thanks for all your help!
[12:54:49] <Bytram> thank you, and happy to help!
[12:56:04] <Fnord666_> founds this on the wiki
[12:56:04] <Fnord666_> discussion - returns all comments in a discussion. takes "sid" as an argument. sid must be the numeric story id here unlike with m=story&op=single. returns an empty 200 on error. this should be fixed.
[12:57:14] <Bytram> nod nod
[12:57:35] <Bytram> was looking at something that would return info on the most-recently posted story
[12:57:44] <Bytram> s/at/for/
[12:57:54] <Bytram> ~sed on
[12:57:55] <exec> sed enabled for 10#soylent
[12:59:31] <Fnord666_> nice response to API call
[12:59:32] <Fnord666_> "RTFM" : "http://wiki.soylentnews.org/wiki/ApiDocs"
[12:59:33] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03ApiDocs" - SoylentNews ( https://wiki.soylentnews.org )
[12:59:42] <Fnord666_> lol
[13:01:06] <Bytram> LOL!!!!!!
[13:01:30] <Bytram> so, hmm, what (f anything) do I have which would do that?
[13:01:45] <Bytram> I think that is a gap in my home-coded tools.
[13:02:08] <Fnord666_> wait, do what?
[13:03:40] <Bytram> I have ~50 batch/awk programs that do various things for me using the API. Some are just wrappers to the API, and other programs are built upon them.
[13:04:21] <Bytram> I can submit a comment, reply to a comment, moderate a comment, retrieve a comment, etc.
[13:04:40] <Bytram> get alist of story submissions, get a particular story sub,
[13:04:49] <Bytram> get a nick from a UID and vice versa
[13:04:58] <Bytram> etc.
[13:06:10] <Fnord666_> cool
[13:06:23] <Bytram> pm
[13:07:28] <Fnord666_> do you see my pm?
[13:36:50] <Fnord666_> ~api m=comment op=latest /0/uid
[13:36:52] <exec> soylentnews.org/api.pl?m=comment&op=latest
[13:36:52] <exec> 02123
[13:37:23] <Fnord666_> ~api m=comment op=latest /0/652
[13:37:24] <exec> soylentnews.org/api.pl?m=comment&op=latest
[13:37:41] <exec> 02{"comment":"<p>In the US, senators used to be appointed by\nstate legislatures. Quite some time ago, the Constitution\nwas changed by amendment so we directly elect them\nnow--making the Senate more democratic and less elitist\nwas the idea; but it has the consequence of causing people\nto care less about state legislative elections. There hasn't been a\nhuge move to repeal that amendment; but I think it's worthy\nof consideration. I definitely wou
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[14:44:01] <Runaway1956_> https://soylentnews.org
[14:44:02] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | Is SoylentNews IRC server dead?
[14:44:12] <Runaway1956_> Is the IRC server up?
[14:44:45] <Runaway1956_> Hello
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[14:46:03] <Runaway1956> hello?
[14:46:13] <Runaway1956_> hello
[14:47:02] <rupertpupnick> hello
[14:47:28] <Runaway1956> https://soylentnews.org
[14:47:29] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | Is SoylentNews IRC server dead? ( https://soylentnews.org )
[14:47:38] <Runaway1956> strange goings on
[14:50:08] <Runaway1956_> Never noticed - there's no time stamp on journal entries? I don't know if he posted two minutes before I arrived, or two hours.
[14:52:09] <janrinok> I can see time stamps on the comments in your journal
[14:55:07] <Runaway1956> In Szopin's journal, I see the time stamp on his front page, but once clicking to get inside the entry, his time stamp disappears. I see the time stamp on my reply though.
[14:55:40] <Runaway1956> But it appears his problem has been solved
[14:56:10] <szopin> yeah
[14:56:17] <janrinok> his problem has been solved - as you have pointed out
[14:56:18] <Runaway1956> Cool
[14:56:23] <janrinok> hi szopin
[14:56:45] <szopin> shows up fine in normal journal view, but indeed timestamp missing in comments view like https://soylentnews.org
[14:56:46] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | Is SoylentNews IRC server dead?
[14:58:43] <janrinok> That is probably because people don't usually ask questions in their journal. The comments in comment view have their own timestamps of course, but not the 'summary/TFA' for want of a better term.
[14:59:25] <Runaway1956> Odd I never noticed that before - guess I never had a reason to wonder when the post was made.
[14:59:31] <janrinok> If you feel strongly about that you could raise a bug report I suppose
[15:00:10] <Runaway1956> Nahhhh, we need a few creepy bugs around to creep people out with.
[15:01:18] <Runaway1956> If people are permitted to feel too comfortable, they'll start staying overnight, sleeping on the sofa, under the table, and wherever.
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[15:14:41] <szopin> updated that journal entry title to hopefully not mislead any more ppl
[15:15:42] <Runaway1956> awesome
[15:36:57] <FatPhil> is there a grep-alike which will show lines in a utf-8 file which have malformed utf-8 in them?
[15:48:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Private LTE Networks Headed to the Slammer? GTL to Test CBRS - https://sylnt.us
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[15:51:09] <FatPhil> Just heard someone who was alive and adult at the time say: "in 1971, you could go to Canada or Mexico without even having a passport" - when did that end?
[15:53:00] <Runaway1956> I think around 2011, fatphil I was going to Canada regularly, in the late 1990's. No passport needed. Some kind of valid ID was helpful, but not essential.
[15:54:04] <Runaway1956> Where did I get 2011? I meant 2001 as in 9/11/01
[15:58:45] <FatPhil> Ah, OK, that would make sense. Thanks!
[16:26:30] <chopchop1> 9/11/56 never forget
[16:27:38] <FatPhil> 9th of november, very memorable day
[16:29:36] <szopin> Oh I think the port is wrong on the https://wiki.soylentnews.org page, trying kiwiIRC it connects to 6667 but 6697 as stated on that page doesn't (SoylentNews has an IRC Channel at #soylent on irc.soylentnews.org/6697)
[16:29:37] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03SoylentNews:IRC - SoylentNews
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[16:59:24] <FatPhil> If doughnuts are spelt "donuts", why isn't the Pillsbury Doughboy (and all your fighting doughboys) a "doboy"?
[17:15:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Sports Teams Are Using Signal to Duck Deflategate-Like Scandals - https://sylnt.us - faux-signaling
[17:16:05] <chopchop1> !seen ehatnol-effin-fueld
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[17:35:51] <janrinok> szopin - have you configured your client for SSL?
[17:38:36] <szopin> janrinok: currently using just the chat.soylentnews.org
[17:39:45] <janrinok> join #help and ask there - somebody more knowledgeable than I am (which is everybody else!) should be able to help you
[17:40:53] <szopin> don't need help, was just trying to figure out what was happening, I think the port is stated incorrectly as 6697, and should be 6667
[17:42:14] <janrinok> nope, they look good to me. One is secure the other isn't
[17:42:52] * janrinok at least that is my limited understanding of it!
[17:43:42] <janrinok> but I don't use the browser method so I'm unable to advise
[17:43:46] <szopin> ok, yeah that's it, kiwiirc does connect to 6697 after selecting the lock
[17:44:11] <janrinok> k, you're good to go
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[18:21:29] <soylent_aqua> =submit https://www.bleepingcomputer.com
[18:21:30] <ClownHatLinux> Submitting "QNAP Warns Users to Secure Devices Against QSnatch Malware"...
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[18:21:56] <soylent_aqua> =submit https://www.bleepingcomputer.com
[18:21:57] <ClownHatLinux> Submitting "Specially Crafted ZIP Files Used to Bypass Secure Email Gateways"...
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[18:46:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mind-body Therapies Alleviate Pain in People Prescribed Opioids - https://sylnt.us - there-is-no-spoon
[18:47:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> so do opioids
[18:56:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> szopin, if you're asking about using our favicon for displaying our content in a browser from our address, you don't need to ask. that's what it's there for.
[18:56:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you're redistributing our content on another page it's not the graphics you need to worry about. comment and journal entry copyrights are the redistribution minefield there. they're owned by whoever posted them.
[18:59:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> also, i know the api is having issues but if you can reproduce and catalog any you find, it would help greatly when i go to fix them.
[19:09:13] <szopin> thanks
[19:09:30] <szopin> Can the favicon be used in an application though?
[19:09:51] <szopin> As in shipped in a rpm to devices
[19:11:07] <szopin> Don't plan to redistribute content, as the app is just glorified qml with xmllistmodel that pulls your rss feed for now and just displays relevant fields in a list and a column
[19:12:24] <szopin> as to the api I've put the issues I found so far in the issue report on github (mostly not able to pull latest stories in any way, and the example of how to pull comments for a story is also not working)
[19:13:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> may have to get permission for that, legally, not sure. would need to come from either Deucalion or both board members. i don't imagine they'll say no if it's an OSS app though.
[19:13:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> Deucalion's the CEO so he can do whatever he likes. board members gotta vote.
[19:14:15] <szopin> it is just managed to find time to put it on github you can check it out here https://github.com (though relies on sfos silica, so without a sailfishos device kinda useless)
[19:14:16] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03szopin/harbour-sailsn
[19:15:27] <szopin> ok, there's no hurry really, for now will ship with the ugly 0.1 icon :) if the copyright owner agrees in the meantime will try to polish it then
[19:17:31] <janrinok> Despite all the possible hurdles ahead, I think the idea of a stand-alone viewer for mobile devices is a good one. I notice you are using qml (from Qt5?)
[19:18:05] <szopin> yeah
[19:19:22] <szopin> it's pure qml, but using silica components from jolla
[19:20:03] <szopin> but should be easy enough to replace silicalistview->listview and should then compile on non-sfos devices
[19:20:07] <janrinok> I also use qml/Qt5 but I know nothing about silica/jolla
[19:20:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> now there is a way around all that copyright nonsense that i could take care of pretty easy...
[19:20:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> put the favicon in the rss feed
[19:20:54] <janrinok> thinking out of the box!
[19:20:58] <szopin> TheMightyBuzzard: nah, need to include pngs in the rpm
[19:21:10] <szopin> and also need to change the border to match sfos look
[19:21:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahhh
[19:21:36] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches his head
[19:22:36] * janrinok passes TMB a wire brush to use while scratching
[19:22:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> well if you were on staff you could do it as a SN project and not worry but sounds like Deucalion will need to sign off as it stands.
[19:23:02] <szopin> janrinok: silica is jolla's proprietary UI for phones with pulley menus and all that gesturebased goodness
[19:23:15] <szopin> but sadly still closed
[19:23:36] <janrinok> thanks - I had assumed that was what it was, but I have never used it
[19:24:28] <szopin> there is a project I heard about that replaces sfos components for normal ones during compile... might look into adding that at some point if people are interested in getting that on android, but for now it's just rss reader, so probably bit useless
[19:24:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> he's usually around in the evenings US time, late as hell for where he lives though. i guess he's just weird.
[19:25:13] <janrinok> aren't we all a bit weird in our way?
[19:25:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> not me. i'm weird as hell in my own way.
[19:25:48] <janrinok> there's a guy a know who is mad about fishing - can you imagine that!
[19:30:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> szopin, you're in luck. we screwed up on our licensing. "The information below applies to everything in this distribution, except
[19:30:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> where noted."
[19:30:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> we didn't note anything about the graphics and our favicons are on github with the rest.
[19:31:24] <szopin> lol
[19:32:12] <szopin> ok, gonna steal it while it's gpl then, before you update it with more restrictive license
[19:32:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> enjoy
[19:32:31] <szopin> thx!
[19:33:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> sub a story about it when you get it done. can't imagine the eds wouldn't run it.
[19:33:25] <janrinok> lol
[19:34:02] <szopin> sure thing
[19:36:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, nap time for me. construction work all morning makes for really enjoyable naps.
[19:36:38] <janrinok> laters TMB
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[20:21:31] * cmn32480 mutinies against the man and eats lunch at 3pm
[20:22:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> one of my co-workers ate lunch at 10:50 AM today.
[20:24:17] <cmn32480> opposite of me i guess
[20:27:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Earth Needs Fewer People to Beat the Climate Crisis, Scientists Say - https://sylnt.us - Neo-Malthusian
[20:31:12] * chromas prepares the nukes
[20:31:31] <cmn32480> I read that as "Beat the Clinton Crisis"
[20:31:53] <cmn32480> and all I could think was that they could just suicide a bunchj more of us and things would be good
[20:31:54] * chromas presses Lockout Changes
[20:33:58] * chromas sends the CTR to cmn32480's house
[20:59:52] <FatPhil> Earth Needs Fewer Clintons to Beat the People Crisis, Sarcastics Say
[20:59:52] <szopin> ok 12h of inkscape later and got this https://github.com
[20:59:52] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03szopin/harbour-sailsn
[21:00:34] <FatPhil> szopin: Nice!
[21:00:51] <szopin> also submitted the app to jolla's official store, if it passes QA maybe like 10 people will download it, on open repos got whole 4 downloads, though that was before icon :D
[21:01:15] <FatPhil> Jolla? What crazy word is that!??!?
[21:01:27] <szopin> hopefully we can get the api fixed, would be cool to be able to have more functionality
[21:02:04] <szopin> finnish... there's nolla - they made noita game recently, and then there's volla that recently had a kickstarter, they seem to like *olla
[21:02:44] <FatPhil> szopin: my phone's bluetooth name is "FuckElop", you may extrapolate a lot from that.
[21:03:26] <chromas> You're into antelop(e) p0rns?
[21:03:42] <szopin> :) yeah, jolla were originally ex-nokians that didn't want to have anything with windows phone so they made sailfish as continuation of meego
[21:04:48] <FatPhil> I know all of the low level guys in Jolla very well, they were on the same super-team as me in nokia. (kernel devs, about 70 of us at nokia)
[21:05:18] <szopin> oh nice
[21:07:40] <FatPhil> chromas: maybe I'm a dev(elop)er
[21:07:59] <szopin> gotta run, will probably pop up if anything changes with the api with more nagging, thanks again guys and cya!
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[21:08:59] <FatPhil> http://theanna.org
[21:09:31] <FatPhil> too slow
[21:10:11] <FatPhil> Has a good battery. I charged it 2 months ago, and powered it down, and it still had 53% charge, and those batteries aren't young.
[21:10:59] <chromas> Is there a system for deciding which outline shape each icon has?
[21:11:47] <FatPhil> yes, a designer makes a pronouncement, and if you disagree, you know nothing about design.
[21:12:20] <chromas> Ah. I thought maybe the sharpness of each corner indicated something about it
[21:17:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> it indicates you shouldn't run while holding it
[21:31:03] <chromas> When my shitposts show up in other people's screenshots, I know I've made it
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[22:16:38] <FatPhil> anyone getting an image from here: https://pbs.twimg.com
[22:17:09] <FatPhil> palemoon is giving me a SSL cert error, but not letting me say "fuck your whining, just let me see the bloody image"
[22:17:20] <boru> Yes, I have an image.
[22:17:44] <boru> NFI why the new generation of web eejits need to make images of bloody text.
[22:17:59] <boru> Wake me up again when September ends.
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[22:29:59] <chromas> Images hold more text than twitter allows
[22:30:06] <FatPhil> boru: alias aoldate='echo $((`date +%s`/86400-8643))'
[22:30:38] <FatPhil> and for the goo-goo equivalent: alias ggdate='echo $((`date +%s`/86400-11364))' # 12 Feb 2001
[22:31:17] <boru> Good on you, for writing something which is ksh93 compatible.
[22:31:24] * boru approves.
[22:32:28] <FatPhil> I thank you.
[22:33:00] <FatPhil> ksh wasn't my aim, but I've never liked using new fancy features just for the sake of it.
[22:33:11] <boru> You can do so when you make it to Bavaria, and buy me a pint.
[22:33:32] <boru> Good for you. I find bashisms very bothersome.
[22:33:45] <FatPhil> I do quite like ${//}
[22:33:54] <boru> Why?
[22:34:01] <FatPhil> saves a call to sed
[22:34:11] <boru> Pft, Real Men™ use Awk.
[22:34:22] <FatPhil> more overweight language than sed
[22:34:41] <boru> But if you're doing text processing, use a bloody text processor.
[22:35:10] <boru> Not some bashism where you pipe it to /dev/tcp to some rest web bullshit.
[22:36:37] <FatPhil> last time I wanted ${//} I was trying to remove a datestamp from a filename. One really simple expression in bash.
[22:37:01] <boru> But you'll find sed or awk in more places than you'll find bash.
[22:37:08] <boru> I hope you're happy with yourself.
[22:37:14] <FatPhil> (website has files for every day, git repo pretends they're all the same files)
[22:37:46] <FatPhil> I used sed. Didn't want to use bash just for one feature.
[22:38:30] <boru> Not poothon? It's all the rage, you know.
[22:39:41] <boru> Anyway, I've gotten the grump out of my system, and my glass is empty, so I'll clock out.
[22:39:44] * boru absconds.
[22:39:59] <FatPhil> I have too much respect for other people's space to use python
[22:40:34] <FatPhil> not sure if that joke was better in the "too much" or "no" version.
[22:41:02] * FatPhil tops up his glass.
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