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[22:41:02] * FatPhil tops up his glass.
[22:40:34] <FatPhil> not sure if that joke was better in the "too much" or "no" version.
[22:39:59] <FatPhil> I have too much respect for other people's space to use python
[22:39:44] * boru absconds.
[22:39:41] <boru> Anyway, I've gotten the grump out of my system, and my glass is empty, so I'll clock out.
[22:38:30] <boru> Not poothon? It's all the rage, you know.
[22:37:46] <FatPhil> I used sed. Didn't want to use bash just for one feature.
[22:37:14] <FatPhil> (website has files for every day, git repo pretends they're all the same files)
[22:37:08] <boru> I hope you're happy with yourself.
[22:37:01] <boru> But you'll find sed or awk in more places than you'll find bash.
[22:36:37] <FatPhil> last time I wanted ${//} I was trying to remove a datestamp from a filename. One really simple expression in bash.
[22:35:10] <boru> Not some bashism where you pipe it to /dev/tcp to some rest web bullshit.
[22:34:41] <boru> But if you're doing text processing, use a bloody text processor.
[22:34:22] <FatPhil> more overweight language than sed
[22:34:11] <boru> Pft, Real Men™ use Awk.
[22:34:01] <FatPhil> saves a call to sed
[22:33:54] <boru> Why?
[22:33:45] <FatPhil> I do quite like ${//}
[22:33:32] <boru> Good for you. I find bashisms very bothersome.
[22:33:11] <boru> You can do so when you make it to Bavaria, and buy me a pint.
[22:33:00] <FatPhil> ksh wasn't my aim, but I've never liked using new fancy features just for the sake of it.
[22:32:28] <FatPhil> I thank you.
[22:31:24] * boru approves.
[22:31:17] <boru> Good on you, for writing something which is ksh93 compatible.
[22:30:38] <FatPhil> and for the goo-goo equivalent: alias ggdate='echo $((`date +%s`/86400-11364))' # 12 Feb 2001
[22:30:06] <FatPhil> boru: alias aoldate='echo $((`date +%s`/86400-8643))'
[22:29:59] <chromas> Images hold more text than twitter allows
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[22:17:59] <boru> Wake me up again when September ends.
[22:17:44] <boru> NFI why the new generation of web eejits need to make images of bloody text.
[22:17:20] <boru> Yes, I have an image.
[22:17:09] <FatPhil> palemoon is giving me a SSL cert error, but not letting me say "fuck your whining, just let me see the bloody image"
[22:16:38] <FatPhil> anyone getting an image from here: https://pbs.twimg.com
[21:58:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Spiders and Ants Inspire Metal That Won't Sink - https://sylnt.us - will-they-call-it-Titanic?
[21:31:03] <chromas> When my shitposts show up in other people's screenshots, I know I've made it
[21:17:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> it indicates you shouldn't run while holding it
[21:12:20] <chromas> Ah. I thought maybe the sharpness of each corner indicated something about it
[21:11:47] <FatPhil> yes, a designer makes a pronouncement, and if you disagree, you know nothing about design.
[21:10:59] <chromas> Is there a system for deciding which outline shape each icon has?
[21:10:11] <FatPhil> Has a good battery. I charged it 2 months ago, and powered it down, and it still had 53% charge, and those batteries aren't young.
[21:09:31] <FatPhil> too slow
[21:08:59] <FatPhil> http://theanna.org
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[21:07:59] <szopin> gotta run, will probably pop up if anything changes with the api with more nagging, thanks again guys and cya!
[21:07:40] <FatPhil> chromas: maybe I'm a dev(elop)er
[21:05:18] <szopin> oh nice
[21:04:48] <FatPhil> I know all of the low level guys in Jolla very well, they were on the same super-team as me in nokia. (kernel devs, about 70 of us at nokia)
[21:03:42] <szopin> :) yeah, jolla were originally ex-nokians that didn't want to have anything with windows phone so they made sailfish as continuation of meego
[21:03:26] <chromas> You're into antelop(e) p0rns?
[21:02:44] <FatPhil> szopin: my phone's bluetooth name is "FuckElop", you may extrapolate a lot from that.
[21:02:04] <szopin> finnish... there's nolla - they made noita game recently, and then there's volla that recently had a kickstarter, they seem to like *olla
[21:01:27] <szopin> hopefully we can get the api fixed, would be cool to be able to have more functionality
[21:01:15] <FatPhil> Jolla? What crazy word is that!??!?
[21:00:51] <szopin> also submitted the app to jolla's official store, if it passes QA maybe like 10 people will download it, on open repos got whole 4 downloads, though that was before icon :D
[21:00:34] <FatPhil> szopin: Nice!
[20:59:52] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03szopin/harbour-sailsn
[20:59:52] <szopin> ok 12h of inkscape later and got this https://github.com
[20:59:52] <FatPhil> Earth Needs Fewer Clintons to Beat the People Crisis, Sarcastics Say
[20:33:58] * chromas sends the CTR to cmn32480's house
[20:31:54] * chromas presses Lockout Changes
[20:31:53] <cmn32480> and all I could think was that they could just suicide a bunchj more of us and things would be good
[20:31:31] <cmn32480> I read that as "Beat the Clinton Crisis"
[20:31:12] * chromas prepares the nukes
[20:27:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Earth Needs Fewer People to Beat the Climate Crisis, Scientists Say - https://sylnt.us - Neo-Malthusian
[20:24:17] <cmn32480> opposite of me i guess
[20:22:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> one of my co-workers ate lunch at 10:50 AM today.
[20:21:31] * cmn32480 mutinies against the man and eats lunch at 3pm
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[19:36:38] <janrinok> laters TMB
[19:36:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, nap time for me. construction work all morning makes for really enjoyable naps.
[19:34:02] <szopin> sure thing
[19:33:25] <janrinok> lol
[19:33:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> sub a story about it when you get it done. can't imagine the eds wouldn't run it.
[19:32:31] <szopin> thx!
[19:32:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> enjoy
[19:32:12] <szopin> ok, gonna steal it while it's gpl then, before you update it with more restrictive license
[19:31:24] <szopin> lol
[19:30:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> we didn't note anything about the graphics and our favicons are on github with the rest.
[19:30:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> where noted."
[19:30:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> szopin, you're in luck. we screwed up on our licensing. "The information below applies to everything in this distribution, except
[19:25:48] <janrinok> there's a guy a know who is mad about fishing - can you imagine that!
[19:25:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> not me. i'm weird as hell in my own way.
[19:25:13] <janrinok> aren't we all a bit weird in our way?
[19:24:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> he's usually around in the evenings US time, late as hell for where he lives though. i guess he's just weird.
[19:24:28] <szopin> there is a project I heard about that replaces sfos components for normal ones during compile... might look into adding that at some point if people are interested in getting that on android, but for now it's just rss reader, so probably bit useless
[19:23:36] <janrinok> thanks - I had assumed that was what it was, but I have never used it
[19:23:15] <szopin> but sadly still closed
[19:23:02] <szopin> janrinok: silica is jolla's proprietary UI for phones with pulley menus and all that gesturebased goodness
[19:22:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> well if you were on staff you could do it as a SN project and not worry but sounds like Deucalion will need to sign off as it stands.
[19:22:36] * janrinok passes TMB a wire brush to use while scratching
[19:21:36] * TheMightyBuzzard scratches his head
[19:21:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahhh
[19:21:10] <szopin> and also need to change the border to match sfos look
[19:20:58] <szopin> TheMightyBuzzard: nah, need to include pngs in the rpm
[19:20:54] <janrinok> thinking out of the box!
[19:20:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> put the favicon in the rss feed
[19:20:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> now there is a way around all that copyright nonsense that i could take care of pretty easy...
[19:20:07] <janrinok> I also use qml/Qt5 but I know nothing about silica/jolla
[19:20:03] <szopin> but should be easy enough to replace silicalistview->listview and should then compile on non-sfos devices
[19:19:22] <szopin> it's pure qml, but using silica components from jolla
[19:18:05] <szopin> yeah
[19:17:31] <janrinok> Despite all the possible hurdles ahead, I think the idea of a stand-alone viewer for mobile devices is a good one. I notice you are using qml (from Qt5?)
[19:15:27] <szopin> ok, there's no hurry really, for now will ship with the ugly 0.1 icon :) if the copyright owner agrees in the meantime will try to polish it then
[19:14:16] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03szopin/harbour-sailsn
[19:14:15] <szopin> it is just managed to find time to put it on github you can check it out here https://github.com (though relies on sfos silica, so without a sailfishos device kinda useless)
[19:13:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> Deucalion's the CEO so he can do whatever he likes. board members gotta vote.
[19:13:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> may have to get permission for that, legally, not sure. would need to come from either Deucalion or both board members. i don't imagine they'll say no if it's an OSS app though.
[19:12:24] <szopin> as to the api I've put the issues I found so far in the issue report on github (mostly not able to pull latest stories in any way, and the example of how to pull comments for a story is also not working)
[19:11:07] <szopin> Don't plan to redistribute content, as the app is just glorified qml with xmllistmodel that pulls your rss feed for now and just displays relevant fields in a list and a column
[19:09:51] <szopin> As in shipped in a rpm to devices
[19:09:30] <szopin> Can the favicon be used in an application though?
[19:09:13] <szopin> thanks
[18:59:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> also, i know the api is having issues but if you can reproduce and catalog any you find, it would help greatly when i go to fix them.
[18:56:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you're redistributing our content on another page it's not the graphics you need to worry about. comment and journal entry copyrights are the redistribution minefield there. they're owned by whoever posted them.
[18:56:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> szopin, if you're asking about using our favicon for displaying our content in a browser from our address, you don't need to ask. that's what it's there for.
[18:47:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> so do opioids
[18:46:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mind-body Therapies Alleviate Pain in People Prescribed Opioids - https://sylnt.us - there-is-no-spoon
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[17:44:11] <janrinok> k, you're good to go
[17:43:46] <szopin> ok, yeah that's it, kiwiirc does connect to 6697 after selecting the lock
[17:43:42] <janrinok> but I don't use the browser method so I'm unable to advise
[17:42:52] * janrinok at least that is my limited understanding of it!
[17:42:14] <janrinok> nope, they look good to me. One is secure the other isn't
[17:40:53] <szopin> don't need help, was just trying to figure out what was happening, I think the port is stated incorrectly as 6697, and should be 6667
[17:39:45] <janrinok> join #help and ask there - somebody more knowledgeable than I am (which is everybody else!) should be able to help you
[17:38:36] <szopin> janrinok: currently using just the chat.soylentnews.org
[17:35:51] <janrinok> szopin - have you configured your client for SSL?
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[17:16:05] <chopchop1> !seen ehatnol-effin-fueld
[17:15:35] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Sports Teams Are Using Signal to Duck Deflategate-Like Scandals - https://sylnt.us - faux-signaling
[16:59:24] <FatPhil> If doughnuts are spelt "donuts", why isn't the Pillsbury Doughboy (and all your fighting doughboys) a "doboy"?
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[16:29:37] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03SoylentNews:IRC - SoylentNews
[16:29:36] <szopin> Oh I think the port is wrong on the https://wiki.soylentnews.org page, trying kiwiIRC it connects to 6667 but 6697 as stated on that page doesn't (SoylentNews has an IRC Channel at #soylent on irc.soylentnews.org/6697)
[16:27:38] <FatPhil> 9th of november, very memorable day
[16:26:30] <chopchop1> 9/11/56 never forget
[15:58:45] <FatPhil> Ah, OK, that would make sense. Thanks!
[15:54:04] <Runaway1956> Where did I get 2011? I meant 2001 as in 9/11/01
[15:53:00] <Runaway1956> I think around 2011, fatphil I was going to Canada regularly, in the late 1990's. No passport needed. Some kind of valid ID was helpful, but not essential.
[15:51:09] <FatPhil> Just heard someone who was alive and adult at the time say: "in 1971, you could go to Canada or Mexico without even having a passport" - when did that end?
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[15:48:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Private LTE Networks Headed to the Slammer? GTL to Test CBRS - https://sylnt.us
[15:36:57] <FatPhil> is there a grep-alike which will show lines in a utf-8 file which have malformed utf-8 in them?
[15:15:42] <Runaway1956> awesome
[15:14:41] <szopin> updated that journal entry title to hopefully not mislead any more ppl
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[15:01:18] <Runaway1956> If people are permitted to feel too comfortable, they'll start staying overnight, sleeping on the sofa, under the table, and wherever.
[15:00:10] <Runaway1956> Nahhhh, we need a few creepy bugs around to creep people out with.
[14:59:31] <janrinok> If you feel strongly about that you could raise a bug report I suppose
[14:59:25] <Runaway1956> Odd I never noticed that before - guess I never had a reason to wonder when the post was made.
[14:58:43] <janrinok> That is probably because people don't usually ask questions in their journal. The comments in comment view have their own timestamps of course, but not the 'summary/TFA' for want of a better term.
[14:56:46] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | Is SoylentNews IRC server dead?
[14:56:45] <szopin> shows up fine in normal journal view, but indeed timestamp missing in comments view like https://soylentnews.org
[14:56:23] <janrinok> hi szopin
[14:56:18] <Runaway1956> Cool
[14:56:17] <janrinok> his problem has been solved - as you have pointed out
[14:56:10] <szopin> yeah
[14:55:40] <Runaway1956> But it appears his problem has been solved
[14:55:07] <Runaway1956> In Szopin's journal, I see the time stamp on his front page, but once clicking to get inside the entry, his time stamp disappears. I see the time stamp on my reply though.
[14:52:09] <janrinok> I can see time stamps on the comments in your journal
[14:50:08] <Runaway1956_> Never noticed - there's no time stamp on journal entries? I don't know if he posted two minutes before I arrived, or two hours.
[14:47:38] <Runaway1956> strange goings on
[14:47:29] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | Is SoylentNews IRC server dead? ( https://soylentnews.org )
[14:47:28] <Runaway1956> https://soylentnews.org
[14:47:02] <rupertpupnick> hello
[14:46:13] <Runaway1956_> hello
[14:46:03] <Runaway1956> hello?
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[14:44:45] <Runaway1956_> Hello
[14:44:12] <Runaway1956_> Is the IRC server up?
[14:44:02] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | Is SoylentNews IRC server dead?
[14:44:01] <Runaway1956_> https://soylentnews.org
[14:17:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Wants Developers to Start Coding in the Cloud - https://sylnt.us - have-they-applied-for-a-patent-yet?
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[13:37:41] <exec> 02{"comment":"<p>In the US, senators used to be appointed by\nstate legislatures. Quite some time ago, the Constitution\nwas changed by amendment so we directly elect them\nnow--making the Senate more democratic and less elitist\nwas the idea; but it has the consequence of causing people\nto care less about state legislative elections. There hasn't been a\nhuge move to repeal that amendment; but I think it's worthy\nof consideration. I definitely wou
[13:37:24] <exec> soylentnews.org/api.pl?m=comment&op=latest
[13:37:23] <Fnord666_> ~api m=comment op=latest /0/652
[13:36:52] <exec> 02123
[13:36:52] <exec> soylentnews.org/api.pl?m=comment&op=latest
[13:36:50] <Fnord666_> ~api m=comment op=latest /0/uid
[13:07:28] <Fnord666_> do you see my pm?
[13:06:23] <Bytram> pm
[13:06:10] <Fnord666_> cool
[13:04:58] <Bytram> etc.
[13:04:49] <Bytram> get a nick from a UID and vice versa
[13:04:40] <Bytram> get alist of story submissions, get a particular story sub,
[13:04:21] <Bytram> I can submit a comment, reply to a comment, moderate a comment, retrieve a comment, etc.
[13:03:40] <Bytram> I have ~50 batch/awk programs that do various things for me using the API. Some are just wrappers to the API, and other programs are built upon them.
[13:02:08] <Fnord666_> wait, do what?
[13:01:45] <Bytram> I think that is a gap in my home-coded tools.
[13:01:30] <Bytram> so, hmm, what (f anything) do I have which would do that?
[13:01:06] <Bytram> LOL!!!!!!
[12:59:42] <Fnord666_> lol
[12:59:33] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03ApiDocs" - SoylentNews ( https://wiki.soylentnews.org )
[12:59:32] <Fnord666_> "RTFM" : "http://wiki.soylentnews.org/wiki/ApiDocs"
[12:59:31] <Fnord666_> nice response to API call
[12:57:55] <exec> sed enabled for 10#soylent
[12:57:54] <Bytram> ~sed on
[12:57:44] <Bytram> s/at/for/
[12:57:35] <Bytram> was looking at something that would return info on the most-recently posted story
[12:57:14] <Bytram> nod nod
[12:56:04] <Fnord666_> discussion - returns all comments in a discussion. takes "sid" as an argument. sid must be the numeric story id here unlike with m=story&op=single. returns an empty 200 on error. this should be fixed.
[12:56:04] <Fnord666_> founds this on the wiki
[12:54:49] <Bytram> thank you, and happy to help!
[12:54:32] <szopin> gonna go afk for now, not sure if laptop will keep awake though, so might dc, thanks for all your help!
[12:54:23] <Bytram> consider 'em asked!
[12:54:01] <Bytram> k
[12:53:59] <szopin> yeah
[12:53:56] <Bytram> ??\
[12:53:54] <Bytram> com
[12:53:53] <Bytram> (dot)
[12:53:53] <szopin> yup
[12:53:51] <Bytram> gmail
[12:53:49] <Bytram> (at)
[12:53:47] <Bytram> szopin
[12:53:44] <Bytram> so...
[12:52:15] <szopin> yeah should work, it's mostly spam address, can use just my nickname at gmail too
[12:52:12] <Bytram> szopin: is the "real email" address (not shown publicly) in your user account settings one you can be reached at or is it a throw-away address?
[12:51:50] <szopin> let me check
[12:51:37] <Bytram> szopin: is the "real email" address (not shown publicly) one you can be reached at?
[12:49:42] <szopin> So might combine RSS for latest stories and then just add an option to browse topics, but here the sid/stoid doesn't seem to work to pull comments
[12:49:05] <szopin> I was hoping to replace the rss feed with api calls, so not sure how to get latest stories, the example in ApiDocs requires tid
[12:48:02] <Bytram> szopin: So, it is not so much retrieving a particular story, but finding out what the latest story *is*?
[12:46:31] <szopin> cool
[12:46:29] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - RIP OG Pixel: Google Ends Support After Just Three Years - https://sylnt.us - rip
[12:46:25] <Bytram> I may have something... bear with me for a couple minutes
[12:46:13] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03Issues with the API · Issue #476 · SoylentNews/rehash
[12:46:12] <szopin> https://github.com
[12:45:47] <Bytram> did you submit a bug respecting tid using the API to get the latest story
[12:45:28] <szopin> but neither latest stories are being returned and can't even get the comments op to work, so not sure if it'll happen :)
[12:44:45] <szopin> I've got the rss feed working atm, was thinking about pulling th ecomments from the API for better readability than webview
[12:44:13] <szopin> created a journal entry about IRC, though now bit pointless as it seems to work
[12:44:04] <Bytram> btw, sounds like a kewel project
[12:43:48] <Bytram> just a minute
[12:43:40] <Bytram> k
[12:43:36] <szopin> szopin
[12:43:31] <Bytram> hmm, do you have a nick on the site?
[12:43:26] <szopin> thanks!
[12:43:17] <Bytram> I'll put out a feeler...
[12:43:03] <Bytram> understandable, but not a call that I can make on my own. Our chief-herder-of-cats would be the one... I
[12:42:14] <szopin> so wanted to check with you guys if it's fine or better to make my own
[12:41:46] <szopin> also having ugly as hell icon right now so was thinking about using the favicon
[12:41:36] <Bytram> hmmmm
[12:41:28] <szopin> having some issues with the API, raised an issue on github
[12:41:16] <szopin> I've made a simple native browser on sailfishOS
[12:40:59] <Bytram> all our code is up on github, but what do you have in mind?
[12:40:29] <szopin> Is the favicon copyrighted or can it be used in a sn browser app?
[12:40:26] <Bytram> yes, it was up all the time.
[12:40:18] <Bytram> yes
[12:40:09] <Bytram> just poking in to take a look, or is there something I could help you with?
[12:40:06] <szopin> with s
[12:40:02] <Bytram> just poking in to take a look, or is there something
[12:39:49] <szopin> still checking now it seems to have same link, was the server up all the time?
[12:39:37] <Bytram> works, anyway, but really should be updated
[12:39:35] <szopin> though I couldn't connect previously, but was trying from either FAQ or About page
[12:39:18] <Bytram> huh? That's "HTTP" w/o the "S"!??
[12:39:16] <szopin> Yeah
[12:38:59] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03SoylentNews Web IRC (Iris) ( https://chat.soylentnews.org )
[12:38:59] <Bytram> are you using the web interface from the site link for IRC: http://chat.soylentnews.org
[12:38:12] <Bytram> szopin: glad you finally made it!
[12:36:56] <szopin> tried previously and it wouldn't connect
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[12:35:49] <szopin_> weird, now it works
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[12:21:36] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5027
[12:21:36] <Bytram> coffee++
[11:09:50] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03OpenStreetMap ( https://www.openstreetmap.org )
[11:09:48] <FatPhil> overheard on way to lunch ".. is there any lunch in this piece-a-shit town?" location: https://www.openstreetmap.org (and every beer glass and every coctail glass is a place that does food at lunchtime).
[11:05:57] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Boeing's Lunar Lander Pitch Promises 'Fastest Path' to the Moon - https://sylnt.us
[10:29:04] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03robertdavidgraham/masscan
[10:29:03] <chromas> https://github.com
[10:24:42] <MrPlow> Kesklinn, Tallinn, Estonia - Today: "Overcast throughout the day." 35/32F, Humidity: 82%, Precip: 25%, Wind ~12mph. Fri: "Mostly cloudy throughout the day." 43/40F, Humidity: 91%, Precip: 17%, Wind ~6mph. Sat: "Possible drizzle overnight." 47/43F, Humidity: 90%, Precip: 28%, Wind ~10mph.
[10:24:40] <FatPhil> #weather Tallinn
[10:24:12] <exec> syntax: ~weather <location>
[10:24:11] <FatPhil> ~weather Tallinn
[09:26:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Walmart Reaches Settlement with Tesla Over Solar Panel Fires, Drops Lawsuit - https://sylnt.us - just-in-time-to-make-things-safe-for-santa
[07:55:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Several Blasts of Arctic Cold Will Bring an Early Winter to Millions Across the US - https://sylnt.us - build-more-wind-farms-to-push-it-back
[07:30:33] <chromas> One drawback to installing the Noto font package is the font picker gets clogged up with about 450 fonts, which all look almost exactly alike
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[06:17:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Actively Exploited Bug in Fully Updated Firefox is Sending Users Into a Tizzy - https://sylnt.us - update-your-browser-now^W-in-a-release-or-two-when-they-finally-release-a-fix
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[04:56:19] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Ranked-Choice Voting Adopted in New York City, Along With Other Ballot Measures - https://sylnt.us - the-people's-choice
[03:31:36] * chromas ruins everyone's fun
[03:30:49] <chromas> Nah, you can use it. We're immune to political shitposting around here
[03:30:01] <chromas> ;)
[03:29:59] <chromas> much like the okay gesture
[03:29:56] <Bytram> oh, won't be using that again.
[03:29:42] <chromas> in old times, but now it means you're a nazi
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[03:28:28] <Bytram> isn't 'kek' a gaming term for 'lol'??
[03:28:04] <Bytram> huh?
[03:27:43] <chromas> Bytram = shitlord -> confirmed
[03:26:59] <Bytram> kek
[03:23:21] <exec> ok
[03:22:57] <ClownHatLinux> k
[03:20:23] <chromas> k
[03:20:20] <ClownHatLinux> https://en.wikipedia.org - Oklahoma - Wikipedia
[03:20:19] <Bytram> =g state ok
[03:20:07] <pinchy> my new catch-all response to blog like chats: ok
[03:19:38] <pinchy> ok
[03:15:55] <chromas> pinchy: you joke, but just you wait until jesus cums again and you're stuck in hell being buttpounded by satan while burning alive forever and ever and ever because you didn't beliebe! Hah! Jesus loves you.
[03:15:14] <Bytram> chromas: appreciate that thanks!
[03:14:35] <chromas> Bytram: if you have an Android phone or tablet, you can install Barcode Scanner (available in F-Droid) and it'll tell you what the bar/dot code type is
[03:06:49] <pinchy> dat mark of da beast
[03:05:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - FCC Crackdown on Cellphone Subsidies Leaves Millions Without Service - https://sylnt.us - I'd-call-and-complain...oh
[03:00:52] <chromas> s/=96//
[03:00:34] <chromas> then parameters data, code, dpi=96 and maybe dataseparator
[03:00:14] <chromas> https://barcode.tec-it.com
[02:59:52] <chromas> well you just need the image url
[02:58:43] <Bytram> afk
[02:58:37] <Bytram> ima take a short break and then take a look at what I can do about that.
[02:58:17] <Bytram> gonna need some more stories pushed out if we are going to make it through the night.
[02:57:54] <Bytram> darn!
[02:56:43] <Bytram> does require allowing scripts to run from: tec-it.com, googletagmanager.com, and ajax.googleapis.com
[02:55:56] * chromas says while using phpoo
[02:55:40] <chromas> Looks like they're using asp scripts. ew
[02:55:03] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03Free Online Barcode Generator: Create Barcodes for Free!
[02:55:01] <Bytram> okay, here is a link to the root of the barcode generator page: https://barcode.tec-it.com
[02:54:55] <chromas> poor ciri
[02:54:01] <Bytram> long ago, for the first (and only) time ever, I blocked a user on IRC: ciri
[02:53:06] <chromas> no ciri :(
[02:52:59] <chromas> !fight curl vs wget
[02:50:00] <Bytram> well, I kinda already did that, but I used wget. =)
[02:49:35] <chromas> Now you gotta make a script to curl the site's api
[02:49:25] <Bytram> as it is, I'm tired, and think I've gone above and beyond on this one, so am gonna call it 'good enough' until I find out otherwise.
[02:48:44] <Bytram> sure appreciate the help!
[02:48:38] <Bytram> I guess I'll find out!
[02:47:10] <chromas> those barcodes don't look quite right. there's supposed to be some blank space on the sides that's considered part of the code
[02:47:09] <Bytram> brb
[02:47:03] <Bytram> will bring it to work and them see how it goes.
[02:46:51] <Bytram> so, used that tool to create BCs of both codes, and along with my pics, put 'em all on a single page.
[02:46:13] <Bytram> I had 5 bar codes from work of which I had taken pictures, but was concerned that a printout of them might not scan, so was trying to create 'fresh' ones, so there was no worry about image being titled a little or keystoning, or whatever
[02:46:06] <chromas> https://barcode.tec-it.com
[02:45:55] <chromas> probably needs some %20s to make the link clickable
[02:45:34] <chromas> https://barcode.tec-it.com at Bytram&code=Code128&dpi=96&dataseparator=
[02:44:15] <Bytram> only needed 5 codes
[02:44:09] <Bytram> the latter
[02:44:04] <Bytram> with Pale Moon, I can right click on the bar code image, select "Copy image location" and that is the data string I need to post into the img src attribute.
[02:43:19] <chromas> Are you trying to integrate that into something or do you just need a couple codes and that's it?
[02:43:01] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03Free Online Barcode Generator: GS1-128 (UCC/EAN-128)
[02:42:59] <Bytram> and for "GS1-128 (UCC/EAN-128)", try: https://barcode.tec-it.com
[02:42:50] <chromas> I made a crappy little script to poop out barcodes but when I set Content-Type: application/postscript then firefox says 404, which is weird
[02:41:41] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03Free Online Barcode Generator: Code-128
[02:41:39] <Bytram> chromas: So, for a code 128 barcode, this *seems* to work: https://barcode.tec-it.com
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[02:18:32] <Bender> karma - gnu: 1
[02:18:32] <chromas> gnu--
[02:18:23] <chromas> even with quotes or backslashes
[02:18:10] <chromas> also, rm doesn't appear able to delete a file called --
[02:17:49] <chromas> heh, barcode = dum. I pass - for stdout and it just writes a file
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[02:02:02] <Bytram> think I found an on-line site that actually works...
[02:01:17] <Bytram> lol
[02:00:27] <chromas> Seems legit
[02:00:21] <chromas> "Congratulations [email_name], Select from several exclusive offer rewards!"
[01:59:17] <chromas> You'll probably have to reinstall Windows
[01:53:39] <Bytram> but using Firebug with Pale moon, where it auto-completes font-family names for you, can't find anything that starts with "C" except Consolas, Comic Sans, etc. No "code..." anything
[01:53:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> god damn you, youtube. i want to watch one video and you suck me down the rabbit hole for weeks.
[01:52:38] <chromas> perhaps firewaterfox doesn't font very well
[01:52:26] <chromas> When I try it in a web page it just seems to change the line spacing a bit
[01:52:26] <Bytram> BTW, seems that the text needs to be encoded, too.
[01:52:10] <Bytram> yes
[01:52:02] <chromas> Bytram: Did you try "Code 128" for the font family string?
[01:43:19] <Bytram> and that one has had: 2,840,360,917 views!
[01:42:58] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03YouTube
[01:42:53] <Bytram> https://www.youtube.com
[01:40:16] <Bytram> btw, and fwiw, that vid has had: 2,514,972,652 views
[01:39:20] <Bytram> chromas: your bot seems to ignore the page title?
[01:38:56] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03YouTube
[01:38:51] <Bytram> https://www.youtube.com
[01:38:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Boeing Performs Starliner Pad Abort Test. Declares Success Though 1 of 3 Parachutes Fails to Deploy. - https://sylnt.us - 2-out-of-3-ain't-bad
[01:35:19] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03YouTube
[01:35:15] <Bytram> https://www.youtube.com
[01:35:00] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[01:34:59] <Bytram> #yt I kissed a girl
[01:34:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> also clued her in that it's her first for real and for true adult decision. her mom gets no say in who she's attracted to, ditto dad, and her friends who are all declaring they're $whatever because it's trendy damned sure don't get a say.
[01:32:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> splained to her that *sexual are just terms that take an extremely complex human being and boil them down to one rather unimportant aspect. the only word that says who she really is is $name. if she wants to kiss a girl, kiss a girl. if she wants to kiss a boy, kiss a boy. if she wants to have sex with either, i'll wrap her in duct tape and stuff her in the closet until she's thirty.
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[01:29:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> all things considered they didn't do badly with that talk but i still had to fix it.
[01:28:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> i know, right? nobody wants their cookware to have bodily fluids on them.
[01:28:19] <AzumaHazuki> mom's probably locking up all the kitchenware
[01:27:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> parental wtfs did abound.
[01:27:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, yall missed some quality funny by living in all parts non-TN. TR's 12 year old girl child was out roller skating with her friends and TEXTS her mother that she's decided she's pansexual.
[01:16:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> was where lucius fox's nephew or kid or something was annoying batwoman with gadget explanations she already knew.
[01:13:52] <Bender> karma - guano: 1
[01:13:52] <chromas> guano++
[01:13:37] <AzumaHazuki> is that when you just squeak and flap around a lot and maybe drop a few bits of guano?
[01:13:35] <Bytram> afk
[01:13:28] <Bytram> This time for sure... Break time.
[01:12:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> bwahahaha! "you're batsplaining"
[01:11:14] <Bytram> no joy.
[01:10:36] <chromas> probably just code128
[01:10:16] <Bytram> break time
[01:09:59] <Bytram> ususally, on windows, cmdname /? is the default way to ask a cmd for help
[01:09:06] <chromas> not sure if / works for parameters on windows
[01:09:03] <Bytram> this one: http://www.barcodelink.net
[01:08:34] <Bytram> oh
[01:08:34] <chromas> What's the name of the font?
[01:08:22] <Bytram> and now to find out what font-family name I need to use in order to make it work.
[01:08:22] <chromas> or -h
[01:08:16] <chromas> palemoon --help
[01:07:40] <Bender> karma - chromas: 261
[01:07:40] <Bytram> chromas++
[01:07:31] <Bytram> how does one find what cmdline args PM has?
[01:06:59] <chromas> palemoon --new-instance
[01:06:38] <chromas> just open a new pale moon instance instead
[01:05:45] <Bytram> and now /me needs to restore session with 84 tabs
[01:04:36] <Bytram> and... it looks like I'll need to restart Pale Moon for it to know the font is out there.
[01:02:01] <chromas> he's on windows so it's probably some registry thing
[00:58:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> runs fc-cache -f -v?
[00:57:11] <Bytram> prolly updates some internal structures in windows
[00:57:04] <AzumaHazuki> probably writes its name in the registry in its own piss or something
[00:55:49] <chromas> Does installing do anything more?
[00:55:10] <Bytram> doh! Need to *install* a font on windows, not just copy the .ttf file into \windows\fonts\
[00:49:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> opie dopie. batwoman n sammich time for me then.
[00:48:40] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: that is a nice thought but I am too knackered to contemplate doing that atm... first day back at work and it was more tiring than I had hoped.
[00:47:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, put it on boron and output the files to ~/public_html/
[00:44:28] <chromas> or it might compile on windows with mingw
[00:43:48] <chromas> Set up a whole ubuntu server with systemd and apache just to provide a perl script that provides barcodes-as-a-service for your other scripts
[00:43:04] <chromas> You'll have to add a lin box into whatever you're doing
[00:42:43] <chromas> Conveniently, you just installed linux
[00:42:18] <Bytram> chromas: seems to be designed to work on Linux.
[00:40:51] * Bytram clicks
[00:40:43] * TheMightyBuzzard buggers off
[00:40:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, really an hungrified and in need of some nicotine.
[00:40:38] * chromas gives Bytram https://www.gnu.org
[00:40:20] * Bytram is trying to figure out how to use that font on Win 7 Pro X64
[00:40:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> neat
[00:39:55] <Bytram> http://www.barcodelink.net
[00:39:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> he only uses his powers for his own amusement though.
[00:39:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, chromas.
[00:39:08] <AzumaHazuki> wish it would. the abrahamic religions are going to be our Great Filter
[00:38:55] <AzumaHazuki> LOL, what. Me? Good grief no, not even the threat of nuclear annihilation could do that
[00:38:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> you're gifted. your troll skills are so high that you could get muslims and jews to quit fighting each other and fight you.
[00:37:49] <AzumaHazuki> opening pickle jars isn't too hard, just smack the bottom a couple of times and grip with a rubber glove if it's stubborn
[00:37:26] <Bender> Added quote 920
[00:37:26] <chromas> !grab TheMightyBuzzard
[00:37:08] <chromas> Aha! I found something AzumaHazuki and TheMightyBuzzard can both agree on
[00:37:07] * TheMightyBuzzard was talking about opening pickle jars but couldn't resist the phrasing
[00:36:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> fu, chromas! why don't you hop in your little red boat and row back to china?
[00:36:23] <AzumaHazuki> Blasphemer
[00:35:57] <chromas> You know what's really gross though is sweet pickles
[00:35:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> without men, straight women would never get to stick a pickle in their mouth
[00:35:30] <AzumaHazuki> just imagine an eye roll that causes cramps in the ocular muscles
[00:35:11] <AzumaHazuki> neither of those were needed
[00:34:49] * chromas imagines a raised finger and wagging head at "let me tell you, honey"
[00:34:42] <AzumaHazuki> that must rankle like horrible heartburn
[00:34:25] <AzumaHazuki> 'cause they have no choice, they need men
[00:34:17] <AzumaHazuki> because let me tell you, honey, if people could choose? there would not be one single straight girl on the planet. the real man-haters are straight women
[00:34:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> i know but those writers are. it comes through loud n clear.
[00:33:54] <AzumaHazuki> lesbians aren't man-haters by definition you know. it's about natural love of other women, not artificial hatred of men
[00:33:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> hell, i liked the catwoman movie
[00:33:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> i hadda quit watching it even though i'll watch damned near anything superheroish
[00:32:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, you ain't watched them lately then. supergirl writers hate men.
[00:31:41] <AzumaHazuki> but no, comics and such are the last half-respectable refuge of manchildren. so it's all male fantasy
[00:31:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's hollywood, fair chance they got several.
[00:31:20] <AzumaHazuki> would be amazing if they had, like, actual gay women as writers for gay women characters
[00:30:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> she was gayer when she was straight than when she got retcon'd to be homosexual
[00:30:50] <Bytram> Thanks for the laugh
[00:30:44] <Bender> karma - superparakeet: 1
[00:30:44] <Bytram> superparakeet++
[00:29:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> she got rolled up back in the 50s or early 60s, i forget, when they were doing superboy, superdog, superparakeet, etc... and decided batman needed a whole baseball team worth too.
[00:29:05] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03Barcode Font - Completely Free Download of code 3 of 9 and 128 Barcode Fonts
[00:29:05] <Bytram> http://www.barcodelink.net
[00:29:04] <Bytram> hmmm, I wonder if this will do the trick?
[00:29:02] <AzumaHazuki> not quite as bad as Rowling suddenly deciding Albus Dumbledore was gay though. after he was safely celibate, old, and dead
[00:28:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> is but see above
[00:28:35] <AzumaHazuki> i've never followed any of this. seems like trendy virtue-signalling BS
[00:28:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup. comics and tv series.
[00:28:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> batwoman i have no objection to them gaying up strictly for virtue signaling purposes. she was a cocktacular character when she was straight.
[00:28:11] <AzumaHazuki> batwoman is a lesbian?
[00:26:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> duh
[00:26:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> catwoman
[00:25:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> and eats at the Y like AzumaHazuki. at least since the mid 2ks.
[00:25:47] <Bytram> but who would want to go around stealing cats?
[00:25:35] <Bytram> like a cat burglar
[00:25:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> she's sneaky like batman
[00:25:09] * MrPlow looks around but does not see TheMightyBuzzard batwoman
[00:25:09] <Bytram> #sammich TheMightyBuzzard batwoman
[00:24:59] * MrPlow looks around but does not see batwoman
[00:24:59] <Bytram> #sammich batwoman
[00:24:57] * MrPlow fixes thinly sliced TheMightyBuzzard's corpse sammiches for everyone in #soylent
[00:24:57] * MrPlow sneaks up behind TheMightyBuzzard and cuts their throat
[00:24:57] <Bytram> #sammich TheMightyBuzzard
[00:24:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, finished watching house. time for a smoke and a sammich and some batwoman.
[00:24:04] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: now that you mention it, ISTR some guy trying to write some kind of a program in a font
[00:23:24] <chromas> muh microcodes
[00:23:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> ttfs anyway
[00:23:14] <chromas> I wonder if anybody's made a n irc bot in font
[00:22:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> believe it or not, fonts can do that. they have way, way too much ability to do shit they never should have been able to.
[00:22:21] <Bytram> sorry JR!
[00:22:15] <Bytram> ::chuckles::
[00:22:05] * MrPlow smakes TheMightyBuzzard upside the head with janrinok's other tooth
[00:22:04] <Bytram> #smake TheMightyBuzzard
[00:21:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> shush! i'm trying to inflict perl upon him!
[00:21:51] <Bytram> I suppose if you have the correct font, it would be kinda possible, but then you have checksums and check digits to contend with, too.
[00:21:33] <chromas> there's also a tool probably just called barcode in your linux repo
[00:20:54] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03Barcode.pm
[00:20:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://blort.org
[00:20:31] <Bytram> different barcodes use different encodings/thicknesses/spacings
[00:20:04] <Bytram> not even close
[00:19:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> find a barcode font
[00:17:34] <Bytram> now to figure how to generate 'em
[00:17:23] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03Code 128 - Wikipedia
[00:17:22] <Bytram> as far as I can tell, it looks like I've got some "Code 128" bar codes: https://en.wikipedia.org
[00:17:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> i dig elektra just fine. kinda digging the new batwoman series too.
[00:16:10] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Why not both and try your luck with Elektra?
[00:14:07] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[00:14:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt 1000 years of death
[00:12:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> well that or they could be wedgie ninjas. harmless but annoying so you've both got a common goal aside from ordinary old boring shat like balancing the checkbook.
[00:12:21] <AzumaHazuki> that's what the fanart is for :)
[00:12:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> probably a guy thing. i like some good drama but it needs something else too or ima be bored.
[00:12:02] <AzumaHazuki> on account of people being dead due to ninja attacks?
[00:11:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> see, we'd have a lot lower divorce rate if married folks got random ninja attacks to spice things up
[00:10:41] <AzumaHazuki> is this a guy thing, or a you thing? :v
[00:09:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> relationships bore me unless there's sex or violence too. it's like eggs without salt or pepper.
[00:09:33] <AzumaHazuki> ...though you will probably find yourself groaning at the screen for Sei to stop being so uptight and just ask Shimako out already...whoops, too late, Noriko got her
[00:09:07] <Bytram> lol
[00:09:02] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03YouTube
[00:08:58] <Bytram> https://www.youtube.com
[00:08:52] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[00:08:52] <Bytram> #yt acme
[00:08:41] <AzumaHazuki> Marimite is clean enough to eat your dinner off of
[00:08:39] <Bender> karma - acme: 1
[00:08:39] <Bytram> acme++
[00:08:39] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[00:08:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> #yt wile e coyote great divide
[00:08:34] <Bender> karma - wileecoyote: 3
[00:08:34] <Bytram> wileecoyote++
[00:08:28] <AzumaHazuki> yuri doesn't mean porn, you know. it can, but usually doesn't
[00:08:19] <Bender> karma - wileecoyote: 2
[00:08:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> wileecoyote++
[00:07:57] * Bytram has 5 god-awful long bar codes that he had taken pictures of, and now wants to generate, instead. Is wondering how to find out what type it is and how to generate it.
[00:07:41] <Bender> karma - bugs: -6
[00:07:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> bugs++
[00:07:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth.
[00:07:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> naw, i get bored with just lesbians. that's why we make chromas stay in here all the time.
[00:07:15] <AzumaHazuki> Looney Tunes is still my favorite overall for that. they don't make them like that anymore
[00:06:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - In Review of Fatal Arizona Crash, U.S. Agency Says Uber Software Had Flaws - https://sylnt.us - just-switch-off-and-start-it-again
[00:06:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> powerpuff girls z, not really but again, perfectly good mindless humor
[00:06:06] * AzumaHazuki maaaaaaay be a little biased
[00:05:58] <AzumaHazuki> you need more yuri in your life. Maria-sama ga Miteru. Watching slowly is preferred here
[00:05:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> death note's pretty damned good
[00:04:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> i can't do it. i was going to go on a trolling tear touting pokemon as the greatest anime of all time but i'd have to kick my own ass.
[00:04:20] <AzumaHazuki> i think i watched...6? mostly short-running yuri series
[00:03:39] <AzumaHazuki> you've probably watched way the hell more anime than me
[00:03:11] <chromas> See he can't be a real weeb. He called it a cartoon
[00:02:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> well db* ain't my favorite anime franchise but it's perfectly serviceable mindless cartoons.
[00:01:00] <AzumaHazuki> i kinda wouldn't have guesses you were a weeb. and this from the girl who named herself after a time-traveling lesbian from an obscure anime, so...