#soylent | Logs for 2019-10-24
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[00:00:32] <FatPhil> "developed by the Red Hat employees Kay Sievers" NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
[00:00:37] <FatPhil> step away, walk away
[00:00:40] <chromas> Nobody really uses it but it's got its own container tool, nspawn
[00:01:04] <chromas> Wasn't he a suse dev before?
[00:02:25] <chromas> Lennart Poettering and Kay Sievers double team supreme presents: tenacious systemd
[00:04:23] * FatPhil was a kernel dev when this thread began: http://lkml.iu.edu
[00:05:34] <FatPhil> maybe his destiny is to be forced to program for a PIC rather than an amd64.
[00:06:48] <chromas> ah, the pattern
[00:07:39] <chromas> I read the thing where logging out kills all your processes was supposedly to clean up after guhnome 3 sessions. Not sure if that's true, but I'm willing to repeat it as though it is
[00:12:21] <chromas> this thing https://bugs.debian.org
[00:12:24] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03#825394 - systemd kill background processes after user logs out - Debian Bug report logs
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[00:21:16] <AzumaHazuki> that would not surprise me in the least
[00:21:34] <AzumaHazuki> and it's amazing they did that instead of, oh, i dunno, specifically checking for gnome processes...
[00:21:57] <chromas> Nah. Push the problem upstream
[00:23:38] <chromas> It looks like people were using that option (KillUserProcesses=yes) to clean up after gnome 3 already, then systemd made it default
[00:33:06] <FatPhil> wowzeroonies "you can no longer start a screen or tmux"?!??!
[00:34:16] <chromas> theres more to the sentence, it's just that they wrongfully hardwrapped the messages
[00:35:47] <FatPhil> yeah, but if you can't do the second bit, there's no point doiung the first bit
[00:39:23] <FatPhil> I'm glad I've never run a systemd-using system looking at that.
[00:40:04] <FatPhil> I kept my debians at pre-systemd for as long as I could, and all new installations were devuan
[00:40:43] <chromas> I never rand into that problem, so the distros were probably fixing it for me
[00:44:16] <chromas> it took a lot of effort to switch from "service httpd start" to "systemctl start httpd" and I never wanna go back
[00:46:33] <FatPhil> vhy do all ze apologists zeem to haff germanic names, yah?
[00:48:22] <chromas> vhy do all ze germans haz ze impressum on their vebshite?
[01:06:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Organelle Discovered Inside Cells Found to Prevent Cancer - https://sylnt.us - secret-sauce
[01:08:42] <FatPhil> my goodness, it's one of those days, it seems
[01:09:00] <FatPhil> it's 4am and I'm upmodding khallow.
[01:19:57] * RandomFactor thinks this may be a case where watching Davie504's videos all the way to the end might help.
[01:26:28] <FatPhil> I agree
[01:29:45] <FatPhil> do go on
[01:29:48] <chromas> muh meme editing
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[02:48:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Embattled Russian Scientist Sharpens Plans to Create Gene-Edited Babies - https://sylnt.us - moral-dilemma
[02:52:17] <AzumaHazuki> whoooo, boy, we're in for it now. the kid will recover 200 health from a Sandvich, even if it's one he drops himself
[03:48:52] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[03:48:52] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[03:51:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> #bnk
[03:51:24] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
[03:51:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> awe, man... there wasn't any nipples in there you hooter-hitlers
[03:52:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> nipple nazis
[03:53:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> need to change the link to https://www.youtube.com i guess
[03:53:17] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03YouTube
[03:53:45] <chromas> you need the has_verified=1 parameter
[03:54:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh ya?
[03:55:06] <chromas> "This video may be inappropriate for some users."
[03:55:11] <TheMightyBuzzard> appears no work
[03:55:18] <chromas> I didn't know lefties were prudes
[03:55:36] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[03:55:40] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03YouTube
[03:56:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> sure, they're the new puritans
[03:56:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, no work
[03:57:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> maybe if you're logged in to youtube
[03:57:13] <Bytram> =g youtube-dl
[03:57:14] <ClownHatLinux> https://rg3.github.io - youtube-dl
[03:57:24] <Bytram> ^^^ just use that
[03:57:47] <chromas> no good. need to announce to the channel that you're watching it and then give everyone a chance to click the link
[03:58:05] <Bytram> And... it's not just for youtube, either. Seems towork on Instagram, twitter, and prolly a whole lot more.
[03:58:59] <Bytram> and, with that PSA completed, it is way past the time I should have gone to bed.
[03:59:15] <Bytram> Have a good night everybody!
[03:59:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gnight Bytram
[03:59:27] * exec hurriedly vomits a petabyte of null terminators on Bytram
[04:00:34] <AzumaHazuki> who the hell programmed a decompression bomb into that thing?
[04:02:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> hmm?
[04:02:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> are you saying someone set us up the bomb?
[04:02:44] <AzumaHazuki> maaaaaaaybe
[04:03:09] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard--
[04:03:09] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 359
[04:03:13] <chromas> you sed it wrong
[04:03:17] * TheMightyBuzzard chuckles
[04:03:58] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: s/(\w).*?(\w)/\2 \1/6
[04:04:16] * chromas 's not sure if that regex is right
[04:05:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> don't axe me. way past my bedtime, so my brain's only good for the things the internet was created for. boobs and kitties.
[04:06:42] <chromas> mewbs
[04:17:28] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - The Secret of Classic Belgian Beers? Medieval Super Yeasts! - https://sylnt.us - I'll-drink-to-that!
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[05:46:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Halfway Toward LHC Consolidation - https://sylnt.us - more-discoveries-to-come
[07:17:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Automating Satellite Collision Avoidance - https://sylnt.us - Kessler-Syndrome
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[08:55:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA Wants to Send a Probe to Venus That Can Last 60 Days - https://sylnt.us - Say-Hi-to-Reinhardt-and-Maximillian
[10:03:48] <chromas> iowa_state_university--
[10:03:48] <Bender> karma - iowa_state_university: -1
[10:04:24] <chromas> "Persistence pays off with first images of butterfly eggs"
[10:04:35] <chromas> But whatever you do, don't show any of the pictures
[10:10:11] <FatPhil> However, NSA wants to send a probe to Uranus.
[10:13:05] <chromas> It's a Dirty Jobs but somebody's gotta do it
[10:27:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Air-Breathing Engine Precooler Achieves Record-Breaking Mach 5 Performance - https://sylnt.us - air-breathing-dragon
[11:29:37] <Bytram> chromas++ "mewbs"
[11:29:37] <Bender> karma - chromas: 259
[11:30:13] <Bytram> cf: https://purrli.com
[11:30:14] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03<The Internet has a Cat! Meet Purrli, the online cat purr generator.
[11:30:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday Bytram
[11:30:59] * exec genuinely pairs a trainload of jargon with Bytram
[11:31:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:31:02] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5010
[11:31:11] <Bytram> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[11:31:13] * exec scientifically terrorizes a [deleted] of green eggs and ham with TheMightyBuzzard
[11:31:18] <Bytram> coffee++
[11:31:18] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5011
[12:06:04] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Elon Musk Sends Tweet Via SpaceX's Starlink Satellite Broadband - https://sylnt.us - skynet-is-here
[13:21:19] <jman> Wonder how Elon's driver is doing on the trip to Mars. Seems he should have sent the tweet, not human.
[13:21:46] <jman> /s/not human/not the human/
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[13:37:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US Customers Kick Up Class-Action Stink Over Epson's Kyboshing of Third-Party Ink - https://sylnt.us - raising-a-(st)ink
[13:40:24] <jman> Has the scheduled maintenance occurred for SN servers? My node said today @ 05:00 UTC, but the node control panel shows 2 days uptime...
[13:41:06] <janrinok> I think it is all over
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[14:38:31] <Runaway1956> Is forced vacation a precursor to forced retirement?
[14:38:47] <Runaway1956> I was told that I have to take Thursday and Friday off.
[14:43:04] <janrinok> If you work for a good company, then they are merely looking after their staff, if your employer is having problems, then maybe yes...?
[15:05:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA To Demonstrate New Star-Watching Tech With Thousands Of Shutters - https://sylnt.us - shudderly-fascinating
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[16:36:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How "Special Register Groups" Invaded Computer Dictionaries for Decades - https://sylnt.us - an-organization-of-very-special-registers
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[18:18:02] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA May Turn to Commercial Rockets Instead of SLS for First Modern Trip to Moon - https://sylnt.us - sudden-outbreak-of-common-sense?
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[18:20:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> merica++
[18:20:09] <Bender> karma - merica: 9
[18:20:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> just had a 1.5lb burger at the best burger joint i've found in TN in the past five years.
[18:23:55] <AndyTheAbsurd> that's a large burger.
[18:24:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net
[18:24:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, i couldn't finish the fries
[18:24:56] * AndyTheAbsurd posts recently linked image to local tech group's #worst-things Slack channel
[18:27:09] <Sulla> "large burger"
[18:27:37] <Sulla> someone needs to be sent back, unless they aren't here, unless we invite them in and then send them back
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[18:39:17] <soylent_green> =submit https://www.theverge.com
[18:39:19] <ClownHatLinux> Submitting "A health care algorithm affecting millions is biased against black patients"...
[18:39:40] <ClownHatLinux> ✓ Sub-ccess! "A Health Care Algorithm Affecting Millions is Biased Against Black Patients" (14 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[18:41:42] <soylent_green> =submit https://arstechnica.com
[18:41:43] <ClownHatLinux> Submitting "White House kicks infosec team to curb in IT office shakeup"...
[18:42:05] <ClownHatLinux> ✓ Sub-ccess! "White House Kicks Infosec Team to Curb in IT Office Shakeup" (7 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[18:46:58] <soylent_green> =submit https://threatpost.com
[18:47:00] <ClownHatLinux> Submitting "3 Service Account Secrets Straight from Hackers and Security Pros"...
[18:47:22] <ClownHatLinux> ✓ Sub-ccess! "3 Service Account Secrets Straight From Hackers and Security Pros" (11 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[18:47:55] <soylent_green> =submit https://www.tomsguide.com
[18:47:56] <ClownHatLinux> Submitting "Discord 'Spidey Bot' Malware Is Stealing Usernames, Passwords"...
[18:48:18] <ClownHatLinux> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Discord 'Spidey Bot' Malware Is Stealing Usernames, Passwords" (22 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[18:48:44] <soylent_green> =submit https://www.bleepingcomputer.com
[18:48:45] <ClownHatLinux> Submitting "Discord Turned Into an Info-Stealing Backdoor by New Malware"...
[18:49:07] <ClownHatLinux> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Discord Turned Into an Info-Stealing Backdoor by New Malware" (24 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[18:49:40] <Sulla> By what age should a kid be able to beat mario brothers on the nes?
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[18:56:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> ten if they're a bit slow
[18:56:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> or have parkinson's or something
[18:57:07] <Sulla> Okay
[18:57:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> autistic or adhd, no later than 7
[18:57:27] <Sulla> Was concerned my twins were doing it too slowly, but they almost have it beat at 4.5 so I should leave them alone
[18:58:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> have they mastered body english with the controllers yet?
[18:59:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> you know, leaning to the right and tilting the controller even further to make a really long jump and such
[18:59:22] <chromas> I only played it on snes. Never beat it :(
[18:59:37] <Sulla> Yeah, its funny
[18:59:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> yes but we already knew you were special
[19:00:04] <Sulla> Hard to find controllers with a good response time anymore. Being how old they are
[19:02:01] <Sulla> Trying to work out a lesson plan to follow over a number of years for the teaching of logic and rhetoric
[19:05:17] <chromas> Can they beat SuperTux 2?
[19:11:37] <Sulla> As of yet i have not given them access to a computer
[19:11:39] <Sulla> no desktop around
[19:11:53] <Sulla> or phones
[19:30:37] <TheMightyBuzzard> Sulla, get an old laptop or raspberry pi and install nothing but scratch. badass for teaching programming fundamentals and logic.
[19:30:54] * TheMightyBuzzard passes through on his way back to being a construction worker
[19:31:18] <chromas> scratch++
[19:31:18] <Bender> karma - scratch: 1
[19:31:37] <chromas> then later you can install Cractorio and they can learn Lua while making mods
[19:32:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> fuck that. they might want to use emacs then.
[19:33:10] <chromas> I thought that was lithp
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[19:45:51] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Successful Biological Decontamination of an Aquifer - https://sylnt.us - round-of-applause-for-the-bugs
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[19:56:39] <Sulla> The kids get to start off with older stuff than that. One gets the Commodore 64 and the other the Apple 2e
[19:57:13] <chromas> And then TempleOS
[20:02:07] <Sulla> Might be too late, i think JMHudson might already think we all glow in the dark
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[21:02:05] <FatPhil> we all, if accelerated round a gravitational space-time singularity, glow in the dark.
[21:03:21] <FatPhil> Having said that, to creatures with infravisions, we all glow right now.
[21:17:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - A 'Shocking' New Way to Treat Infections - https://sylnt.us - send-them-to-the-chair
[21:33:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, lua, lisp, lesbian... it's one of them L words anyway
[21:48:47] <FatPhil> chromas isn't an l-word?!?
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[21:55:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> luser
[21:58:30] <FatPhil> You rang?
[21:58:34] <FatPhil> #soylent FatPhil H+ 0 ~luser@Soylent/Staff/Editor/FatPhil [Local User]
[22:02:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> #smakeadd a LART
[22:02:12] <MrPlow> "a LART" added.
[22:03:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> you know, just in case
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[22:33:14] <FatPhil> ~gday AzumaHazuki
[22:33:15] * exec prematurely enriches a bag of false hope with AzumaHazuki
[22:33:44] <FatPhil> sorry
[22:34:00] <FatPhil> if you sell it quickly enough, maybe you'll get something for it.
[22:38:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday AzumaHazuki
[22:38:21] * exec sardonically culturally enriches a dong of peanut butter and mayonnaise with AzumaHazuki
[22:38:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> yep, that hope sure was false
[22:40:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[22:40:10] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 740
[22:56:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Twitter Plans to Make Policy Changes to Help Combat Deepfakes - https://sylnt.us - what-about-shallow-fakes
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[23:05:22] <FatPhil> AndyTheAbsurd: can you do the same with https://video.ethz.ch please? even with JS turned on, palemoon is showing no video media on that page at all!
[23:05:24] <ClownHatLinux> ^ 03The Limits of Efficient Computation
[23:10:58] <AndyTheAbsurd> Sure, give me a minute.
[23:11:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> FatPhil, it's a UA check. spoof.
[23:11:49] <AndyTheAbsurd> https://oc-vp-dist-downloads.ethz.ch
[23:12:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> eclipsed moon extension solves it nicely
[23:15:23] <AndyTheAbsurd> Yup, a new preference general.useragent.override.video.ethz.ch with the value copied from the calendar.yahoo.com equivalent gets the video loading in PM for me.
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[23:16:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> could do that but i'm lazy enough to prefer a ua switching extension
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[23:48:58] <chromas> there's no video because it's an iframe
[23:49:16] <chromas> if you inspect that, you'll get the video tag with the mp4