#soylent | Logs for 2019-10-23
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[00:07:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Drug Companies Reach $260 Million Settlement, Averting First Federal Opioid Trial - https://sylnt.us - chicken-feed
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[01:37:23] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Avast Says Hackers Breached Internal Network Through Compromised VPN Profile - https://sylnt.us - out-cybered-by-outsiders
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[02:40:51] <AzumaHazuki> gah. the stupid furring strip i intend to use as one of the cleats for the slats isn't straight. i should probably take it off and try another
[02:41:17] <chromas> Any progress pics?
[02:41:40] <AzumaHazuki> not yet
[02:41:42] <AzumaHazuki> not feeling well
[02:42:04] <AzumaHazuki> panic maybe from trying to breathe through P95 mask. just need to calm down and let it pass
[02:42:34] <AzumaHazuki> but i can't really maningfully clean the sawdust aside from vacuuming, wearing mask, and using my floor fan to blow out at the window
[02:43:01] <AzumaHazuki> hopefully i'm not inhaling too much of this crap
[02:47:00] * chromas sprinkles dusty vermiculite into the room
[02:48:16] <chromas> Maybe if you saw in the shower you can just flush it down the drain
[02:52:29] <AzumaHazuki> i didn't saw, but sanding is a thing
[02:52:50] <AzumaHazuki> this apartment has short wall to wall carpeting. i think i need to get a vacuum with a shaker bar or something
[02:54:07] <chromas> Can you put a vacuum hose next to the sander when you use it?
[02:56:11] <AzumaHazuki> i don't have a vac at all yet. shit, i did this all in the wrgng order
[02:56:51] <AzumaHazuki> need to go pick up a shop vac and HEPA filter for it and really give the carpet a once over
[02:57:16] <chromas> Put more sawdust and some wood chips on the floor and tell people it's organic and makes for healthy licing
[02:57:32] <chromas> s/c/v/3
[02:57:34] <exec> <chromas> Put more sawdust and some wood chips on the floor and tell people it's organic and makes for healthy living
[03:01:43] <AzumaHazuki> shit, now i'm scared for mylungs
[03:01:48] <AzumaHazuki> brb, sjower
[03:02:25] <chromas> You'll have some dusty boogers for a couple days
[03:02:54] <chromas> https://iopscience.iop.org
[03:03:06] <chromas> I get a long delay, then Service Unavailable
[03:03:14] <chromas> oh, but now that I said that, it loaded
[03:03:18] <upstart> ^ 03Quantification of the water-use reduction associated with the transition from coal to natural gas in the U.S. electricity sector - IOPscience
[03:17:17] <AzumaHazuki> are you sure that's the worst of it?
[03:18:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - In Surprise Turnaround, Biogen to Submit Previously Failed Alzheimer Drug for Approval - https://sylnt.us - I-said-what?
[03:21:44] <chromas> no but it's the first of it
[03:22:18] <AzumaHazuki> oh goodie. i don't want lung cancer dammit
[03:23:19] <chromas> You won't get lung cancer, but if you saw enough wood you'll turn into TheMightyBuzzard
[03:24:16] <AzumaHazuki> nnnnnnnnnnNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-*haaaack*-OOOOOOOOOOOO
[03:26:57] <AzumaHazuki> but for real now, am i in serious shit here? should i just not be doing this indoors, exhaust fan and P95 mask be damned? this isn't worth my health
[03:28:53] <chromas> I dunno. You'll probably be fine as long as you're not doing it all the time. Outside and/or good ventilation is always best
[03:31:25] <AzumaHazuki> yeah...i may as well return that saw, never even used it. could trade for vac and filters.
[03:31:41] <AzumaHazuki> this is likely going to be my last project for a while then
[03:32:46] <chromas> That doesn't sound like fun at all
[03:33:14] <AzumaHazuki> no, but if i'm not in a safe place to do this stuff in...
[03:33:23] <chromas> Maybe you can set up under the outside stares
[03:33:49] <chromas> or on them. Then you can be the one looking in your window
[03:34:03] <AzumaHazuki> blehhh, i hate to think i hauled all that wood for nothing. hopefully this one project i can complete and then it'll be done with
[03:34:42] <AzumaHazuki> the 2x2 furring strip i'm using as one of the cleats to screw the slats into isn't straight, so that probably needs replaced before i lay the slate down, pizdec...!
[03:43:49] <chromas> Well, don't let anything I say discourage you from woodworking. Probably should talk to someone with more experience before throwing out the saw
[03:44:37] <AzumaHazuki> i'm actually not too sure what else i need to make that i'd need the saw for, and could use the $ back...
[03:45:05] <chromas> ah. well you can always buy it again later I guess
[04:45:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Robo-Tank? Army Picks Contenders for Robotic Combat Vehicle Competition - https://sylnt.us - Atari-Battlezone-IRL
[04:47:12] <AzumaHazuki> well, seems low exposure for a short time isn't much of a risk, but i think this is all the woodwork i'll be doing for a long time.
[04:47:41] <AzumaHazuki> probably time to return the saw and get a good vacuum with HEPA filter, vacuum the everloving shit out of this place, and just finish this one project
[05:36:06] <AzumaHazuki> there, placed order for an air purifier...Winix 5300r2. Had one once and it worked like a charm. and costs less than i'll get for saw return, which is nice
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[06:26:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Elaborate Attempt to Outsource Murder Ends in Prison Time - https://sylnt.us - outsourcing++
[06:36:59] <chromas> https://www.archiveteam.org
[06:37:00] <upstart> ^ 03ArchiveTeam Warrior - Archiveteam
[07:57:09] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Replacing Coal with Gas or Renewables Saves Billions of Gallons of Water - https://sylnt.us - fire-water-burn
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[09:23:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> #tell AzumaHazuki you're fine on the sawdust. worst you'll get is a day or two of hacking up some extra phlegm from any softwood and most domestic hardwoods. the ones you have to watch are the exotics with high silicon content like purple heart. those will land you a case of silicosis if you use them regularly without taking precautions.
[09:23:52] <MrPlow> Okay, I'll tell them next time I see them.
[09:28:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google: We've achieved quantum supremacy! IBM: Nope. And stop using that word, please - https://sylnt.us - low-lying-qubits
[09:33:43] <Bytram> coffee++
[09:33:43] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5007
[09:40:58] <Bytram> #tell AzumaHazuki What TMB said. I'll add that I was often working with my Dad in his shop in the basement; no masks or protection of any kind. Gobs of wood cut on table saw, sabre saw, etc. Once in a great while would hack up some phlegm, but short-lived and no long term effects.
[09:40:58] <MrPlow> Okay, I'll tell them next time I see them.
[09:44:45] <jman> My regular coffee cup wandered off somewhere, so I grabbed the SN Coffee++ cup off the shelf in my office and poured, not noticing util too late the small beetle that had gotten into it some months back, now quite dead and dried out.
[09:44:58] <jman> Yes, the programming coffee cup had a bug.
[09:58:55] <Bytram> jman: Time for some deep debugging skills!
[09:59:03] <Bytram> coffee++
[09:59:03] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5008
[10:08:18] <jman> Have been digging into LibreOffice macros. Ahh, basic. Feel like it's the 70's again. Sure wish they had a better editor though.
[10:08:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:08:31] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5009
[10:09:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> no worries, extra protein
[10:17:57] <Bytram> lol
[10:18:05] <Bytram> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[10:18:07] * exec frankly hallucinates a dumpster full of ice cream cones with TheMightyBuzzard
[10:18:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday Bytram
[10:18:26] * exec almost incoherently separates a trunkload of unverified backups from Bytram
[10:18:40] <Bytram> but muh backups!
[10:18:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[10:18:44] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 739
[10:58:28] * jman wonders if anyone still reads /.
[11:06:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - "Prime Editing" Technique Could Overcome Some Limitations of CRISPR - https://sylnt.us - Snip-Snip-Snip!
[11:34:15] <Bytram> break time
[11:35:00] <janrinok> ~gday Bytram
[11:35:02] * exec sardonically flicks a gigabyte of glass shards at Bytram
[11:35:16] * janrinok is chasing Bytram from channel to channel
[11:37:23] * janrinok thinks that he must have gotten away....
[11:37:59] * janrinok would have got him if it hadn't been for those pesky kids.....
[11:47:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - "Prime Editing" Technique Could Overcome Some Limitations of CRISPR - https://sylnt.us - Snip-Snip-Snip!
[12:18:44] <AndyTheAbsurd> Anybody experimented with this yet? https://www.hyperbola.info
[12:18:45] <upstart> ^ 03Hyperbola
[12:43:51] <janrinok> no, but I'm downloading it now to have a look at it
[12:45:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Blue Origin Led Industry Team Will Work on Lunar Lander - https://sylnt.us - imagine-a-spherical...pork?
[13:18:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> jman, i skim the headlines every morning on the crapper. seems appropriate.
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[14:13:06] <FatPhil> hyperbola's x86 only, so not for me. but anything that supports init freedom I support.
[14:17:08] <janrinok> I'm having problems installing it in a VM. fdisk and cfdisk no longer support the 'a' command to toggle a bootable partition, but I cannot find how to achieve that with the software that their basic level install provides. Following the Beginner's Guide to the letter but it isn't working for me
[14:18:37] <janrinok> I have to query why people think that going back to the command line to even install an OS is a good move when most other distros have solved this problem
[14:21:17] <AndyTheAbsurd> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com
[14:27:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - DB-19: Resurrecting an Obsolete Connector - https://sylnt.us - obsolete-no-more
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[15:18:56] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.economist.com
[15:18:59] <upstart> Submitting "How Beto O’Rourke has helped America’s gun lobby"...
[15:19:21] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "How Beto O’Rourke Has Helped America’s Gun Lobby" (14 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[15:30:44] <chromas> janrinok: "a" still works if you're doing the old dos mbr-style partitions
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[15:55:53] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Gimme Six! Researchers Discover Aye-Aye's Extra Finger - https://sylnt.us - no-relation-to-pirates
[16:58:43] <FatPhil> youtube-dl is failing to find a video on this page - any ideas? https://video.ethz.ch
[16:58:45] <upstart> ^ 03The Church-Turing Thesis and Physics
[17:08:04] <AndyTheAbsurd> I am also failing to find a video on that page. Probably because of my script-blocker.
[17:08:32] <AndyTheAbsurd> "It seems that your browser is not HTML 5 compatible"
[17:11:20] <AndyTheAbsurd> FatPhil: just sent you the link to the source video in private message
[17:11:29] <AndyTheAbsurd> because it's ridiculously long.
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[17:26:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Grind Your Welds With Pride, If That’s The Way You Do It - https://sylnt.us - show-off-your-beads
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[18:24:18] <FatPhil> AndyTheAbsurd: my route to that lecture was SN story about infinite feedback quantum bogosity being reached, to Scott Aaronson's blog, to another one of his blog posts mentioned from the linked one.
[18:55:25] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Unplugs AMP, Hooks It Into OpenJS Foundation - https://sylnt.us - amp-it-up
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[20:11:47] <FatPhil> Virtue signalling = U R a snivelling git (anagram, not mine)
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[20:37:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Traffic Lights Worldwide May Change After Swedish Engineer Saw Red Over Getting a Ticket - https://sylnt.us - there-goes-the-revenue
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[21:53:14] <RandomFactor> !quote 914
[21:53:14] <Bender> Quote 914 - <chromas> Bender: There's no way to go back; you can't arrange them by penis
[21:53:30] <RandomFactor> !quote -1
[21:53:30] <Bender> Quote -1 - <chromas> Bender: There's no way to go back; you can't arrange them by penis
[22:06:08] <chromas> I stole that from a youtube vid
[22:06:14] <chromas> =yt the website is down
[22:06:15] <upstart> https://youtube.com - The Website is Down #1: Sales Guy vs. Web Dude (10:24)
[22:06:37] <chromas> Nice length too
[22:07:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How Flagstaff, Arizona, Switched to LEDs Without Giving Astronomers a Headache - https://sylnt.us - illuminating-questions
[22:09:45] <chromas> "Our website was at the very tip of the penis"
[22:43:14] <RandomFactor> Red vs. Blue meets BOFH
[22:46:40] <chromas> Now you've gotta watch all of 'em :)
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[22:49:18] <RandomFactor> There's more? Damn you...
[22:50:12] <RandomFactor> Sub'd
[23:36:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - No 'Silver Bullet' Fix for Alexa, Google Smart Speaker Hacks - https://sylnt.us - I-heard-what-you-did-last-night
[23:38:13] <AzumaHazuki> oh there's a simple solution: don't fucking buy things that spy on you, clownhat!
[23:44:06] <chromas> That doesn't sound right
[23:44:43] * AzumaHazuki likes insults with the substring "clown" in them
[23:45:32] <chromas> clownctl to major tom
[23:46:49] <AzumaHazuki> shit, systemd added MORE stuff?
[23:47:06] <chromas> well it has a bootloader
[23:47:12] <chromas> but hey now, *ctl predates systemd
[23:47:16] <AzumaHazuki> i can see it now...clownctl bite, clownctl throw_in_basement...
[23:47:37] <RandomFactor> Sounds like an idea for a new bot name
[23:48:03] upstart is now known as ClownHatLinux
[23:48:22] <RandomFactor> ClownHatLinux++
[23:48:22] <Bender> karma - clownhatlinux: 1
[23:51:02] <RandomFactor> Time for the Cheerios dance
[23:56:22] <FatPhil> is there a list of things that systemd has embraced and extended?
[23:57:02] <FatPhil> I've still not written my parody lyrics song, despite having lots of good rhymes. knowing what other keywords I could drop in there would aid things perhaps.
[23:57:28] <chromas> There used to be an animated jif
[23:57:56] <chromas> though I wouldn't include both at and cron as separate items since they both do the same thing
[23:58:24] <chromas> systemd's bootloader is what used to be known as gummiboot
[23:58:37] <chromas> see if you can find a rhyme for that I guess
[23:58:38] <FatPhil> I remember the sock-puppet gif gobbling everything up
[23:59:02] <chromas> that's the one
[23:59:39] <FatPhil> that was a few years back tho'