#soylent | Logs for 2019-10-22

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[00:35:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Vox's Netflix Documentary: "Cult-Like-Sites" include Reddit, 4chan, Gab and Bodybuilding.Com - https://sylnt.us - are-we-a-cult-too?
[00:51:14] <chromas> From the Vox-is-real-journalism dept
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[02:07:07] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Amazon is Shipping Expired Food Scaring Consumers and Putting Big Brands at Risk - https://sylnt.us - check-the-dates
[03:32:11] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA Orders 10 SLS Rockets; Return to the Moon Likely Delayed to 2028 - https://sylnt.us - to-the-sea-and-beyond
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[03:57:18] <Booga1> Just wanted to drop in and say that it looks like a dupe is pending in the subs queue: Amazon Maeketplace Sellers are Shipping Expired Food
[04:03:31] <chromas> Thanks Booga1
[04:04:47] <chromas> #smake Bytram
[04:04:47] * MrPlow smakes Bytram upside the head with flying butt-pliers
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[05:13:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday >beverage dubmass
[05:13:04] <exec> added to beverages
[05:14:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> kinda feelin like feelin like ass might be in my immediate future and TR's girl child gots a sick.
[05:14:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> yay.
[05:14:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> and also, what the hell am i doing up at midnight?
[05:14:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> ima go smoke and sleep
[05:17:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Accessibility, the Future, and Why Domino's v Robles Matters - https://sylnt.us - wrong-way
[06:58:03] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Hacking the Hackers: Russian Group Hijacked Iranian Spying Operation, Officials Say - https://sylnt.us - tunnels-in-tunnels
[08:26:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Boeing's 737 Max Troubles Deepen, Taking Airlines, Suppliers With It - https://sylnt.us - supply-and-demand
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[09:55:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Economists Say This is the Minimum Amount of Money Low-Income Households Need in an Emergency Fund - https://sylnt.us - there's-always-the-day-*after*-tomorrow
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[11:26:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Expensive Broadband is Pricing Millions Out of Accessing the Internet - https://sylnt.us - costly-bits
[11:46:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[11:46:09] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5005
[12:32:44] <Bytram> coffee++
[12:32:44] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5006
[12:32:52] <Bytram> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[12:32:54] * exec excoriatingly merges backpack full of windows 3.11 for workgroups with TheMightyBuzzard
[12:33:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday Bytram
[12:33:18] * exec deliciously extracts bag of humble pie from Bytram
[12:35:08] <Bytram> but muh pie!!!
[12:35:15] <Bytram> give eet back!
[12:35:20] <Bytram> ;)
[12:35:59] <Bytram> Yanno, thinking back (IIRC) WfWG was actually a pretty solid and performant release
[12:36:54] <janrinok> WfWG?
[12:37:21] <janrinok> ah, don't bother, caught up now....
[12:37:28] <FatPhil> 3.11
[12:37:52] <janrinok> I was trying to relate it to pies - and failing miserably of course
[12:38:06] <FatPhil> pies are 3.14
[12:38:11] <janrinok> exactly
[12:39:02] <Bytram> Hmm, was there a WfWG 3.14?
[12:39:12] <Bytram> =g wikipedia windows for workgroups
[12:39:13] <upstart> https://en.wikipedia.org - Windows 3.1x - Wikipedia
[12:40:18] <janrinok> of course, Usians celebrate it every March, whereas the rest of the world views it as the 3rd day of some fictitious mont next year
[12:40:28] <janrinok> month*
[12:41:14] <Bytram> "Windows 3.11 was released on November 8, 1993. It did not add many feature improvements over Windows 3.1; it primarily contained bug fixes, but was considered a significant improvement because of those fixes, contributing to the operating system's popularity. Microsoft replaced all retail versions of Windows 3.1 with Windows 3.11 and provided a free upgrade to anyone who currently owned Windows 3.1."
[12:42:41] <janrinok> I think I have a set of floppies in my man-cave still of 3.11.
[12:43:07] <FatPhil> I think I ditched those when I left finland
[12:43:27] <FatPhil> I may have keps my Borland C++ v3 floppies though
[12:44:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> i have doom shareware on floppies
[12:44:57] <janrinok> I can't ever imagine re-installing any of the software just mentioned - but I feel an attachment that is probably bordering on unhealthy to such things
[12:46:31] * Bytram remembers testing "golden floppies" of a software release... Had to make sure that what we made and sent to manufacturing actually worked. Installation was something like a dozen floppies. :P
[12:46:49] <chromas> https://winworldpc.com
[12:46:50] <upstart> ^ 03WinWorld: Library
[12:48:49] <janrinok> 'golden floppies' sounds like a video I once saw in Berlin...
[12:49:22] <Bytram> would have no connection to the US orange chalupa, no?
[12:49:29] <Bytram> ;)
[12:51:18] <chromas> are they making dorito chalupas now?
[12:51:38] <Bytram> =g dorito chalupas
[12:51:39] <upstart> https://www.tacobell.com - Doritos® Cheesy Gordita Crunch Nacho Cheese | Customize it!
[12:55:36] <chromas> Well today I learned that both the gordita and chalupa are real Mexican foods
[12:55:47] <chromas> of course, the taco bell version is just a taco
[12:57:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Stretching Before or After a Workout: Only One of Them is Right - https://sylnt.us - why-not-both?
[12:58:39] <Bytram> Buenos dias: good day; Buenas tardes: good afternoon; Buenas nachos: good snack!
[13:01:06] <Bytram> Huh! from https://en.wikipedia.org "Ignacio Anaya died in 1975. In his honor, a bronze plaque was erected in Piedras Negras, and October 21 was declared the International Day of the Nacho.[8] Anaya's son, Ignacio Anaya, Jr., served as a judge at the annual nacho competition."
[13:01:07] <upstart> ^ 03Nachos - Wikipedia
[13:01:20] <Bytram> we *just* missed it!
[13:04:56] <janrinok> time for a short nap - between episodes of the workmen making lots of noise!
[13:05:30] <chromas> My name is Ignacio Anaya, Jr. You ate my taco. Prepare to die.
[13:11:02] <chopchop1> finally found a dark BG extension for seamonkey/firefox that works good with most websites https://addons.thunderbird.net
[13:11:02] <upstart> ^ 03Dark Background and Light Text (SeaMonkey)
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[13:48:16] <Bytram> ~time x
[13:48:19] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Tuesday, 22 October 2019, 1:48 pm
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[14:38:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Research Offers Possibility of Rehabilitation for People in Minimally Conscious or Vegetative State - https://sylnt.us - let-me-out
[15:18:41] <FatPhil> so there's hope for [redacted]?
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[16:16:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Climate Warming Promises More Frequent Extreme El Niño Events - https://sylnt.us - more-worse
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[17:50:34] <boru> Someone posted this to me today, thinking it seemed like my sort of rant: https://twitter.com
[17:50:35] <upstart> ^ 03Harry Roberts on Twitter
[17:51:07] <boru> (I wouldn't normally ever visit shitter, but they assured me there was some comic bashing of modern web clowns in there)
[17:54:58] <janrinok> I've never seen adds because I run an addblocker - doesn't everybody? But he does make a good point.
[17:55:33] <AndyTheAbsurd> the ads are *a* problem but they aren't *the* problem.
[17:56:01] <AndyTheAbsurd> *The* problem is that React.js is like pointing a firehose of shit at your website's users' computers.
[17:56:15] <janrinok> no, you can add videos that take 30s+ to load - if they load at all
[17:56:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Facebook Promises to Beef Up "Election Integrity" Efforts Heading into 2020 - https://sylnt.us - pitting-truth-against-lies
[17:56:43] <chromas> To be fair, imgur staff is full of retards
[17:57:08] <chromas> people are always complaining their android application drains their battery too
[17:57:41] <janrinok> ah, I only ever view it on a desktop, so I cannot say that I have seen that problem
[17:57:44] <chromas> the moderators are prudes and also they recently did a beta-style redesign of the site
[17:58:23] <janrinok> yes I noticed. It's almost a daft as, say, pornhub cutting out the naughty bits
[17:59:07] <janrinok> I only go there for the dog pictures of course
[17:59:17] <chromas> well they took away the album access
[17:59:29] <chromas> used to be you could go to people's albums and look at their nudes
[17:59:44] <chromas> (assuming they weren't marked private)
[18:00:35] * janrinok has just noticed that boru dropped this in here and then went very quiet - he's good, isn't he!
[18:01:47] <chromas> so far I've only seen the op bashing modern web clowns and one wanker disagreeing. need more people to step in
[18:02:00] <chromas> boru++
[18:02:00] <Bender> karma - boru: 38
[18:04:16] <boru> Sorry, I got side tracked. Did I start a flamewar?
[18:05:04] <chromas> no, but you did the next best thing
[18:05:17] <boru> For image/binary sharing, base64 encoding and posting to newsgroups worked quite well. I used to use pastesites for sharing binary data as well.
[18:05:54] <boru> But for image hosting, recently, I came across put.re -- file hosting without the useless redit social network nosense.
[18:06:53] * AndyTheAbsurd should really get around to researching options for, and actually installing, some sort of image-gallery web software on his absurdly-useless.systems site.
[18:07:18] <boru> The web is the worst thing to happen to the 'Net.
[18:09:17] * boru grumpily drinks whiskey.
[18:10:15] * chromas replaces boru's whiskey with a javascript whiskey loader framework
[18:10:31] <chromas> whisk.io
[18:10:32] * boru expunges chromas from Planet Earth.
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[19:05:58] <FatPhil> was whinging with my mates about the new terrible dynamically-loaded brewery pages on ratebeer, but even they aren't as shitnozzley as that imgur example.
[19:06:27] <chromas> I misread that as "ratebater"
[19:06:55] <FatPhil> HOwever, their back end is so goddamn terrible, it still takes 30s to find out that Foo Brew brews 20 beers.
[19:07:12] <chromas> Do they have indexes on their db?
[19:07:28] <chromas> or maybe they're using elastic search or something
[19:08:22] <chromas> probably storing the db on tape
[19:26:56] <FatPhil> paper tape, yup, and there are mice in the server room
[19:27:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Japan Pardons Over Half a Million People to Mark Ascension of New Emperor - https://sylnt.us - did-they-all-belch-at-once?
[19:27:33] <FatPhil> So you really can get nested queries.
[19:54:21] <Sulla_> Trains are too expensive
[19:54:57] <FatPhil> in the UK, trains were 5 times more expensive as coaches, and took about the same time.
[19:54:58] <chromas> Maybe if we had more of them, they could compete or something
[19:56:01] <Sulla_> Wife wants to go on a round trip up/down the US west coast by train this winter and get one of the rooms
[19:56:03] <Sulla_> spendy!
[19:56:42] <chromas> Does she know about freighthopping?
[19:57:08] <Sulla_> I think that would be vetoed
[20:01:04] <Sulla_> We never took a honeymoon, and its been like seven years so she finally wants to do something. And apparenlty a train is good enough. Can do Portland, OR to Los Angelas to Chicago for 1k, food and room included. Then fly home
[20:02:02] <chromas> is Chicago on the west coast?
[20:04:02] <Sulla_> No but she has also expressed interest in cross country. So both directions and a flight for same price as round trip
[20:04:23] <Sulla_> but then need to deal with flying, which is always awful
[20:06:45] <chromas> train all the way then
[20:09:36] <FatPhil> train to area 51, then teleport home?
[20:11:12] <Sulla_> that would be best method
[20:11:18] <Sulla_> not sure i want my atoms scattered all over nevada though
[20:12:24] <chromas> it's Green™ though
[20:12:52] <chromas> recycle your atoms
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[20:56:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - It Really was the Asteroid--New Study: Sudden Impact Killed off Dinosaurs and Much of Other Life - https://sylnt.us - just-ask-Atari!
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[21:19:40] <RandomFactor> Reading SN and throwing Cheerios at my dog.
[21:24:11] <Bytram> what breed?
[21:24:52] <RandomFactor> Belgian Malinois
[21:25:01] <Bytram> ??
[21:25:11] <Bytram> =g Belgian Malinois
[21:25:12] <upstart> https://www.akc.org - Belgian Malinois Dog Breed Information
[21:25:23] <Bytram> =g Belgian Malinois wikipedia
[21:25:24] <upstart> https://en.wikipedia.org - Malinois dog - Wikipedia
[21:25:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> i had no idea there were belgian cheerios
[21:25:49] <RandomFactor> he's remarkably proficient at catching them
[21:25:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> i mean, waffles, sure...
[21:25:54] <FatPhil> they're served with mayo
[21:25:59] <Bytram> lol
[21:26:05] * TheMightyBuzzard shudders
[21:27:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> random fact: the roomie is to mayo as the klan are to black folks
[21:27:29] <RandomFactor> He gets sad when i type because i can't type and throw
[21:28:13] <RandomFactor> Haha, how to confuse your dog, throw two treats in diverging arcs
[21:29:52] * RandomFactor ponders the roomie thing without success and steals more of the dog's cheerios for himself
[21:30:17] <RandomFactor> What? THere's no other food in the house.
[21:33:35] <RandomFactor> I really want him to successfully catch two
[21:34:09] <Bytram> use duct tape?
[21:37:25] <RandomFactor> The thing about cheerios...now the roof of my mouth is raw.
[21:38:29] <RandomFactor> and in retrospect, I'm glad you can't grap part of a line
[21:38:34] <RandomFactor> grab
[21:41:17] <Bytram> !grab RandomFactor
[21:41:17] <Bender> Added quote 0
[21:41:24] <Bytram> ???
[21:41:31] <Bytram> !quote 2
[21:41:31] <Bender> Can't find quote 2
[21:41:52] <Bytram> looks like the quote DB disappeared?
[21:43:29] <Bytram> Well.. Last I saw here, it *was* working on 2019-10-13 @ 23:19 UTC
[21:43:46] <Bytram> biab dishes
[21:44:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, he has a supremely irrational hatred of mayo
[21:44:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> stupid bot
[21:44:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> !quote 380
[21:44:48] <Bender> Can't find quote 380
[21:44:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> sigh. i hate bender
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[21:49:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> !quote 380
[21:49:06] <Bender> Can't find quote 380
[21:49:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> fucking bot... sigh
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[21:51:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> !quote 380
[21:51:28] <Bender> Can't find quote 380
[21:51:35] * TheMightyBuzzard grumbles
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[21:52:46] <FatPhil> !quote 0
[21:52:47] <Bender> Quote 0 - <MrBluze> dumb question i know
[21:53:07] <FatPhil> which kinda disagrees with:
[21:53:19] <FatPhil> 00:39 < RandomFactor> grab
[21:53:19] <FatPhil> 00:42 <+Bytram> !grab RandomFactor
[21:53:19] <FatPhil> 00:42 < Bender> Added quote 0
[21:53:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> !quote 380
[21:53:55] <Bender> Quote 380 - <SpallsHurgenson> just because I don't wear pants doesn't mean I'm naked
[21:54:28] <TheMightyBuzzard> he occasionally decides to become case sensitive on channel names and i have to bitchslap him
[21:56:28] <RandomFactor> Well that was fun, dog is now completely frisbeed out
[21:57:32] <RandomFactor> and now that y'all have the quotes file sorted I'm NOT going to type what I was thinking
[21:59:12] <RandomFactor> !quote 900
[21:59:12] <Bender> Quote 900 - <RandomFactor> so if Korean pop is called kpop what is Korean rap called?
[22:01:02] <RandomFactor> !quote -1
[22:01:02] <Bender> Quote -1 - <AzumaHazuki> it feels really nice now though :) not too much effort needed, nice and smooth
[22:01:39] <RandomFactor> !quote -2
[22:01:39] <Bender> Quote -2 - <TheMightyBuzzard> which bit of texas? there's a bunch of it.
[22:01:47] <RandomFactor> !quote -3
[22:01:47] <Bender> Quote -3 - <AzumaHazuki> i'd rather learn shell (bash). it's verbose and annoying but at least it doesn't look like someone stuck a modem cable up his ass and farted
[22:02:00] <RandomFactor> !quote -4
[22:02:00] <Bender> Quote -4 - <TheMightyBuzzard> i need a new one of them. the strap on mine is stretched out.
[22:02:15] <RandomFactor> !quote -5
[22:02:16] <Bender> Quote -5 - <AzumaHazuki> ya girl Marissa is so clutch she can drive stick with her knees :)
[22:02:35] <RandomFactor> !quote -6
[22:02:35] <Bender> Quote -6 - <TheMightyBuzzard> cheese works just as good and doesn't leave your clothes smelling like you have a huge anus
[22:02:47] <RandomFactor> !quote -7
[22:02:47] <Bender> Quote -7 - <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, why does your puke smell like feet?
[22:02:58] <RandomFactor> !quote -8
[22:02:58] <Bender> Quote -8 - <chromas> Everyone. Buttscratches all around!
[22:03:08] <RandomFactor> !quote -9
[22:03:08] <Bender> Quote -9 - <FatPhil> oooh - I have an interesting humidity!
[22:03:17] <RandomFactor> !quote -10
[22:03:17] <Bender> Quote -10 - <RandomFactor> !grab phatphil -1
[22:03:30] <RandomFactor> !quote -11
[22:03:31] <Bender> Quote -11 - <SemperOSS> Trump hate? No, no, you are misunderstanding, it is Trump *truth*!
[22:03:39] <RandomFactor> !quote -12
[22:03:39] <Bender> Quote -12 - <RandomFactor> haha my first quote
[22:03:48] <RandomFactor> !quote -13
[22:03:48] <Bender> Quote -13 - <boru> Shite.
[22:03:57] <RandomFactor> !quote -14
[22:03:57] <Bender> Quote -14 - <RandomFactor> so if Korean pop is called kpop what is Korean rap called?
[22:14:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> !quote anal
[22:14:42] <Bender> Quote 517 - <Landon> roll for max anal stretch diamater
[22:14:46] <Bender> Also in quotes: 612, 850
[22:14:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> !quote 612
[22:14:57] <Bender> Quote 612 - <SirFinkus> I'm having unprotected anal sex while injecting methamphetamine using a shared needle
[22:15:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> !quote 850
[22:15:08] <Bender> Quote 850 - <TheMightyBuzzard> bean dip, the anal lube of champions
[22:15:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha! i forgot about that one
[22:26:31] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard++ thanks for resurrecting the quote DB
[22:26:31] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 361
[22:26:37] <Bytram> !whoup TheMightyBuzzard
[22:26:37] <Bender> uppers of themightybuzzard are: Bytram: 172, crutchy: 43, chromas: 34, cmn32480: 26, FatPhil: 15, Deucalion: 8, Bytram|away: 7, mrcoolbp: 5, juggs: 5, mechanicjay: 5, geotti: 4, Bytram|afk: 4, nick: 3, Ethanol-fueled: 3, Blackmoore: 3, Subsentient: 3, prospectacle: 3, xlefay: 2, JamesNZ: 2, paulej72: 2, charon_: 2, capt_curmudgeon: 1, SemperOSS: 1, ar: 1, cmn32480|away: - 1 more
[22:26:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How the Brain Dials Up the Volume to Hear Someone in a Crowd - https://sylnt.us - all-the-way-to-11
[22:26:47] <Bytram> !more
[22:26:47] <Bender> 1, Yog-Yogguth: 1, janrinok: 1, SoyGuest22783: 1, mattie_p: 1, jasassin: 1, arti: 1, boru: 1, cmn32480_phone: 1, kobach: 1, Fnord666: 1, drussell: 1, fyngyrz: 1, n1: 1
[22:26:55] <Bytram> !whodown TheMightyBuzzard
[22:26:55] <Bender> downers of themightybuzzard are: Bytram: -2, mechanicjay: -1, stderr: -1, Sulla: -1, chromas: -1, TK: -1
[22:27:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> themightybuzzard--
[22:27:10] <Bender> karma - themightybuzzard: 360
[22:27:43] * TheMightyBuzzard likes circles
[22:28:01] <Bytram> #yt does it go round in circles?
[22:28:01] <MrPlow> https://www.youtube.com
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[23:08:07] <Bytram> =g battlezone arcade
[23:08:08] <upstart> https://en.wikipedia.org(1980_video_game) - Battlezone (1980 video game) - Wikipedia
[23:19:28] <chromas> Not sure if it's an issue with Conversations or prosody (xmpp client and server) but every time I connect, I get the last message I received again
[23:19:47] <Bytram> connect... here?
[23:19:58] <chromas> no, when I connect to my xmpp/jabber server
[23:20:08] <Bytram> oh, ok.
[23:20:40] <chromas> so, since I told the housemate I was "going to whack of some wood", whenever I get on the wifi I get a dirty reply
[23:20:49] <chromas> the same one over and over
[23:21:57] <chromas> !quote 420
[23:21:57] <Bender> Quote 420 - <cmn32480> WHOSE TOUCHING MY BREASTS?!?!?!?!!
[23:22:01] <chromas> !quote -420
[23:22:01] <Bender> Quote -420 - <paulej72> so it overlays penises on cars in front of me so I steer clear,
[23:22:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> chromas, the client maybe. i have zero issues with the server
[23:22:31] <chromas> Bender: There's no way to go back; you can't arrange them by penis
[23:22:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> !grab chromas
[23:22:41] <Bender> Added quote 914
[23:22:58] <chromas> The worst part about xmpp is pidgin still doesn't support the jingle file transport thinger
[23:23:14] <chromas> but all the android applications only support it, so I can't send files between them
[23:23:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> if you can run an xmpp server, you can run a webserver
[23:23:39] <chromas> I have one. Still can't send an image over xmpp though
[23:23:48] <chromas> just get an instant transfer failed error
[23:24:34] <TheMightyBuzzard> paste its address on your webserver instead of sending the file then.
[23:24:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine time
[23:25:30] <chromas> Sure but that's why friends and family will never use xmpp. the implementations can't get the basics right
[23:25:49] <chromas> of course, now there's like 35,000 other open source instant messenger protocols now
[23:26:14] <RandomFactor> That's ridiculous, we need one protocol that covers all the use cases
[23:27:20] <chromas> systemd-jabberd
[23:27:30] <Bytram> =g xkcd now we have 14 standards
[23:27:31] <upstart> https://xkcd.com - Standards - xkcd
[23:28:08] <RandomFactor> :-) I didn't figure that one would slip by
[23:28:27] <Bytram> ~blame
[23:28:28] * exec points at Bytram
[23:28:31] <chromas> I think pidgin just doesn't support the newer stuff because the protocol's open. It's no fun if you don't get to reverse engineer the protocol
[23:36:48] <Bytram> afk; break time
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