#Soylent | Logs for 2019-10-21

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[00:05:43] <AzumaHazuki> geh...i'm gonna feel it tomorrow ><
[00:26:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> long day, eh?
[00:27:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> ditto here. before sundown to after sunup spent fishing at the river. caught maybe half an hour of sleep nodding off in my chair.
[00:32:38] <AzumaHazuki> meh, i got a bunch of wood (shut up) and am about 1/3 of the way to turning it into a bedframe
[00:33:02] <AzumaHazuki> it's sitting in the living room stenching to high heaven of Polyshades, coat 1
[00:33:25] <AzumaHazuki> i'm going to sand/finish all the bits *before* putting it together
[00:33:49] <chromas> No place to put it outside?
[00:34:57] <AzumaHazuki> i live in 1/4 of an old house that remembers the Coolidge presidency, so...
[00:35:38] <chromas> so decent size yard then? :)
[00:36:18] <chromas> New houses mostly seem to have just enough yard to stand in
[00:36:33] <AzumaHazuki> in theory, except the builders went "fuck a yard this place needs another house on the same plot o' land"
[00:36:56] <AzumaHazuki> there's about a 12 x 20 yard between them but...well, this isn't "be out in the yard" territory
[00:37:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> dad uses that. he's old and not going to see it yellow.
[00:37:36] <AzumaHazuki> wish the landlord would let me drill into the studs here...this place could use some classing up with black pipe/planking shelves
[00:37:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> tha hell?
[00:38:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> who the hell can't nail/screw into the studs if they're willing to patch/paint when they move?
[00:38:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> shit, i could even do that in apartments
[00:39:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> like "yo ass is po, so go live in a building with 30 other people" apartments
[00:39:12] <AzumaHazuki> this place is being run by a new-ish property management company that specializes in, ahem, "rehabilitating distressed properties."
[00:39:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh
[00:39:35] <AzumaHazuki> so they're very eins-zwei-drei about things
[00:39:39] <chromas> Tell them that shelves are rehab
[00:39:57] <AzumaHazuki> there are 4 mini apartents in this place and i am the only one who has held onto a lease for more than 2 months so far.
[00:40:27] <AzumaHazuki> two evictions, one of them which i hear got violent
[00:40:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> i got no beef with gentrification. there's always gonna be nice places, there's always gonna be ghettos, and the nice places are always eventually going to turn into ghettos.
[00:41:27] <AzumaHazuki> the only thing that would count for gentrification here is a bulldozer. it's not the worst i've lived in by far, very few bugs for example and the hot water works, but...
[00:41:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> throwing a little reverse spin on the entropy is just amusing
[00:42:14] <AzumaHazuki> the company hired people to build a back stairway out of wood. which is a nice idea, except it goes past my bathroom window, which has to be open to vent steam
[00:43:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> institute ex-lax tuesdays and that'll resolve itself
[00:44:25] <AzumaHazuki> to rephrase: window is next to shower
[00:45:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> does it go past anyone else's shower window?
[00:45:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> cause if it does, fair's fair
[00:46:39] <AzumaHazuki> i am not sure, but it's a bit disconcerting. don't need someone just casually walking by when i'm soaping the girls up...
[00:47:13] <chromas> stareway
[00:47:20] <chromas> is there a shower curtain or anything?
[00:47:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> would be fun. invite friends over, bring popcorn, armchair quarterback their scrub time as thoroughly as football announcers do the games they work.
[00:47:56] <chromas> or they won't let you hang one
[00:48:39] <AzumaHazuki> can't hang one in front of the window. this old house doesn't have much airflow or ventilation
[00:49:06] <AzumaHazuki> one of those old numbers you wouldn't get market value for the raw materials if you sold, but sure as hell you can slice it up into 4 apartments and rent cheap(ish)
[00:49:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> "i don't know, chromas... i really think she should have gone for the breasts before the feet." and then go on to relate a fungus story of some sort from a relative.
[00:50:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, someone wanted to do that to the church we bought. thankfully for us and everyone in the neighborhood that didn't happen.
[00:50:52] <AzumaHazuki> feets kinda take care of themselves i find. having big breasts is like having two extra armpits (sorta) though. boob sweat is a thing
[00:52:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> am aware. i'm not a stickler for big knockers (which we totally want to get for the church doors) but they are old and dear friends of my acquaintance.
[00:53:07] <chromas> TheMightyBuzzard: get a rope-activated big bell for the door
[00:54:54] <chromas> Ring that big bell, Daria! Ring that big bell!
[00:55:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> put a sign outside saying you charge $9.95/minute and a webcam in the sill so you can bill them accurately.
[00:56:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> fuck, getting silly. should sleep before i forget how to make coffee for in the morning.
[01:09:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, before i sleep and forget... AzumaHazuki, gaaark is looking for info on void linux in a journal entry.
[01:16:52] <AzumaHazuki> haven't used it in a while, but it's basically the lovechild of freebsd and arch
[01:17:42] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Best Way To Protect Ocean Fisheries? Let Nations Profit From Them - https://sylnt.us - get-off-my-fish
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[02:46:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Blue Light Isn't The Main Source Of Eye Fatigue And Sleep Loss—It's Your Computer - https://sylnt.us - I-can-see-it-clearly-now
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[04:25:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - “BriansClub” Hack "Rescues" 26M Stolen Cards - https://sylnt.us - for-some-value-of-rescue
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[05:55:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Harnessing Plasmonics For Precision Agriculture Worldwide - https://sylnt.us - picturing-plants-in-a-whole-new-light
[07:25:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - China Gives Tesla Green Light for Production - https://sylnt.us - going-global
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[07:56:50] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.ikydz.com
[07:56:54] <upstart> Submitting "Kids outsmart Apple's new parental controls"...
[07:57:16] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Kids Outsmart Apple's New Parental Controls" (13 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[07:57:19] <chromas> https://www.nbcnews.com
[07:57:19] <upstart> ^ 03Apple announces 'disability-themed emojis' to arrive in the fall
[08:06:27] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.reuters.com
[08:06:28] <upstart> Submitting "Hacking the hackers: Russian group hijacked Iranian spying operation, officials say"...( 1 modified urls; https://www.reuters.com )
[08:06:50] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Hacking the Hackers: Russian Group Hijacked Iranian Spying Operation, Officials Say" (16 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:14:20] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.usnews.com
[08:14:24] <upstart> Submitting "Colleges Drop SAT, ACT Essay: What Students Should Know"...
[08:14:45] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Colleges Drop SAT, ACT Essay: What Students Should Know" (1 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:31:18] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.nytimes.com
[08:31:19] <upstart> Submitting "Explosives Fail to Take Down Crane at Site of Collapsed Hard Rock Hotel"...
[08:31:41] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Explosives Fail to Take Down Crane at Site of Collapsed Hard Rock Hotel" (17 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:31:53] <chromas> lies
[08:32:06] <chromas> I saw the live stream. One went down and became a modern art exhibit
[08:36:37] <Runaway1956> =submit https://reclaimthenet.org
[08:36:39] <upstart> Submitting "According to Netflix documentary by Vox, Reddit, 4chan, Gab and Bodybuilding.com are "cult-like""...
[08:36:54] <Runaway1956> would have been nice to see them in person, LOL
[08:37:01] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "According to Netflix Documentary by Vox, Reddit, 4chan, Gab and Bodybuilding.com are "cult-like"" (32 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:37:55] <chromas> we need a holiday to celebrate the stunning and brave that is Vox Media
[08:37:59] <chromas> we could call it Vox Day
[08:38:17] <Runaway1956> I got to watch part of the demolition of the roller coaster on the beach in Virginia Beach
[08:38:26] <Runaway1956> that's the one they made a movie out of
[08:38:44] <Runaway1956> So, would Vox Day be akin to Halloween?
[08:39:03] <Runaway1956> A Vox be upon you!!
[08:39:33] <chromas> =g vox day
[08:39:34] <upstart> http://voxday.blogspot.com - Vox Popoli
[08:40:05] <chromas> =g theodore robert beale
[08:40:06] <upstart> https://en.wikipedia.org - Vox Day - Wikipedia
[08:42:36] <chromas> gah, my controller battery died
[08:42:44] * chromas switches from supertux to supertux porn
[08:43:03] <Runaway1956> https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca
[08:43:03] <upstart> ^ 03Greta Thunberg mural in Edmonton defaced, days after emerging
[08:43:12] <Runaway1956> Greta is a tool . . .
[08:44:14] <chromas> much like discount frankie muniz
[08:45:55] <Runaway1956> https://www.independent.co.uk
[08:46:03] <upstart> ^ 03Man ‘beat peeping Tom to death’ after catching him outside girlfriend’s bedroom window
[08:46:23] <chromas> She couldn't close her curtains?
[08:46:31] <chromas> Or maybe someone built a stairway outside her bathroom window
[08:47:17] <Runaway1956> =submit http://rss.slashdot.org
[08:47:19] <upstart> Submitting "CNBC: Amazon Is Shipping Expired Food - Slashdot"...
[08:47:34] <Runaway1956> dammit - ignore that last, LOL
[08:47:41] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "CNBC: Amazon Is Shipping Expired Food - Slashdot" (0 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:47:47] <Runaway1956> or, delete it quick before everyone sees it
[08:48:55] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.cnbc.com
[08:48:58] <upstart> Submitting "Amazon is shipping expired food, from baby formula to old beef jerky, scaring consumers and putting big brands at risk"...
[08:49:06] <Runaway1956> got the right address that time
[08:49:20] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Amazon is Shipping Expired Food, From Baby Formula to Old Beef Jerky, Scaring Consumers and Putting " (10 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[08:53:34] <chromas> baleeted
[08:54:03] <Runaway1956> like a baleen whale?
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[09:11:15] <chromas> Whew
[09:11:17] <chromas> Gettin' the irc shakes
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[09:11:19] <chromas> at least irc2 was still up
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[09:11:40] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Letting Birds Scooters Fly Free - https://sylnt.us - flipping-the-bird
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[09:12:27] <SoyGuest89133> /msg NickServ IDENTIFY SemperOSS TYPeNaSdnzyCL9R8lL7K
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[09:12:39] <chromas> hehe
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[09:13:09] <SoyGuest89133> I'll have to change them now!
[09:13:12] <SoyGuest89133> Arghhhh
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[09:13:42] <SoyGuest89133> /msg NickServ IDENTIFY SemperOSS TYPeNaSdnzyCL9R8lL7K
[09:13:42] <chromas> if your client supports SASL, that's a better option than nickserv
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[09:13:51] <SoyGuest89133> I give up
[09:14:04] <chromas> your messages keep starting with spaces
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[09:14:28] <chromas> you can also /query nickserv then just do the string that way
[09:14:33] <chromas> like a regular message
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[09:19:18] <SemperOSS> Whewwwwwww
[09:21:01] <SemperOSS> I got it under control now ... I think.
[09:21:12] <SemperOSS> And thanks chromas
[09:21:21] <chromas> Sí
[09:22:14] <SemperOSS> I have now changed the password to the completely unguessable 'Pa55w0rd'
[09:23:33] <SemperOSS> Coffee++
[09:23:33] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5003
[09:25:34] <tortured_old_man> nickserv seems to be unavailable
[09:26:47] <SemperOSS> tortured_old_man: I got through to it just now
[09:26:56] <tortured_old_man> Ok
[09:31:00] <SemperOSS> chromas: Silly me, I'll have to remember to fumble around with NickServ in a private chat with myself to avoid similar happenings in the future ;-)
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[10:37:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - DIY Faux-Flesh Active Phone Covers - https://sylnt.us - skinterface
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[12:00:31] <Runaway1956> leaving for a bit, to test SASL connection when I come back
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[12:05:34] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Releases Rudr, an Implementation of Their New Open Application Model - https://sylnt.us - non-standard-standard
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[12:13:23] <Runaway1956> yay, it works
[12:14:58] <Runaway1956> and, I think the sun is taking a day off today
[12:51:53] <chromas> sasl++
[12:51:53] <Bender> karma - sasl: 2
[13:06:16] <chromas> =y liquorix
[13:06:40] <upstart> [0 results]
[13:14:58] <chromas> "Weeks before the release of the Pixel 4, New York Daily News reported that contractors working for Google used questionable tactics to improve its facial recognition’s ability to recognize people with dark skin such as being less than upfront about how the face scans would be used or referring to the scans used to improve Google’s facial recognition as a game. The contractor Randstad apparently attended the BET Awards in Los Angeles and
[13:14:58] <chromas> rounded up homeless people in Atlanta by handing out $5 Starbucks gift cards."
[13:16:00] <chromas> https://www.nydailynews.com
[13:16:02] <upstart> ^ 03Google using dubious tactics to target people with ‘darker skin’ in facial recognition project: sources
[13:18:46] <Runaway1956> OMG chromas hacking me with clientinfo!!
[13:18:48] <Runaway1956> lol
[13:21:21] <chromas> yeah, hexchat doesn't respond to that I guess
[13:22:07] <Runaway1956> I guess it responded with something, I see my kernel name in the window, but not the version
[13:22:46] <chromas> that was in response to the version request
[13:23:03] <chromas> I guess I could try time as well
[13:23:28] * chromas russian haxx
[13:23:41] <Runaway1956> Client: HexChat 2.14.2 • OS: Sparky "Nibiru" 5 • CPU: Six-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 8439 SE (2.81GHz) • Memory: 23.0 GiB Total (18.2 GiB Free) • Storage: 195.0 GB / 260.9 GB (65.8 GB Free) • VGA: NVIDIA Corporation GK208 [GeForce GT 730] @ Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 10h Processor Miscellaneous Control • Uptime: 8h 30m 11s
[13:24:25] <Runaway1956> Huh - I don't see the kernel there
[13:25:02] <janrinok> Well your password is shown as ******** on my screen
[13:25:06] <janrinok> :)
[13:25:09] <chromas> 23 gibs o' ram?
[13:25:13] <Runaway1956> Funny, same on my
[13:25:24] <Runaway1956> yeah, and TWO of those hex cores
[13:25:42] <Runaway1956> it's a full blown server machine
[13:26:24] <chromas> The thing that makes server boards special is the minutes of masturbation before posting
[13:26:40] <Runaway1956> ahhhhh, yes . . .
[13:27:01] <chromas> Not that a I have a lot of xp with servers, but I have an Intel board around here somewhere
[13:27:25] <chromas> putters around for like 20 seconds, flicking the monitor on and off, before it gets to the actual post screen
[13:27:27] <Runaway1956> I have zerio experience with servers, this is a desktop distro
[13:28:00] <Runaway1956> That delay isn't due to being a server, it's the old-time bios
[13:28:08] <Runaway1956> takes me about a minute to post
[13:28:15] <chromas> I've never seen a desktop bios take that long though
[13:28:28] <chromas> except when the memory scan is set to full
[13:28:34] <Runaway1956> Hmmmmm - how many decades have you been around?
[13:28:41] <chromas> which is nonsense, considering the r/w speed of ram
[13:28:51] <chromas> just a few
[13:28:57] <Runaway1956> I remember that 8086 machines took at least as long as this machine
[13:29:16] <Runaway1956> and 8080 wasn't fast by any means
[13:29:26] <Runaway1956> early intels took even longer
[13:29:31] <chromas> we had a 286 that wasn't too bad for posting
[13:30:04] <Runaway1956> Of course, part of that is your choice of options during post . . .
[13:30:41] <chromas> CGA was so great that google and Microsoft brought it back
[13:31:15] <Runaway1956> The SSD hard drive helps a hellluva lot though, once I've posted and chosen which kernel to boot to, things just FLY
[13:31:47] <chromas> I wonder how fast windows 3.11 boots off an ssd
[13:31:57] <Runaway1956> LOL
[13:31:57] <chromas> =yt druaga1 windows 3.11 ssd
[13:31:58] <upstart> https://youtube.com - The Win 9x SSD Multiboot Adventure (57:8)
[13:33:40] <chromas> =y liquorix
[13:33:49] <upstart> http://hackage.haskell.org - Network.HTTP.UserAgent.html
[13:33:51] <chromas> slow fpos
[13:34:08] <chromas> I made it index their website and that's the best result I guess
[13:34:18] * chromas put up a yacy search engine node
[13:35:22] <Runaway1956> https://liquorix.net
[13:35:23] <upstart> ^ 03Liquorix Kernel
[13:35:29] <chromas> yeah that page
[13:35:40] <chromas> I saw it crawling patch files
[13:35:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - How to Build a Microphone - https://sylnt.us - now-you're-talking
[13:36:08] <Runaway1956> It may not be the most kickass kernel out there, but I like it a lot
[13:37:08] <chromas> I was using ck or something but, at least on arch, the nvidia driver is full of flickers on anything but stock kernel for some reason
[13:37:33] <Runaway1956> I think that ck predated liquorix
[13:37:40] <Runaway1956> I ran that one for awhile
[13:38:16] <Runaway1956> liquorix starts out with pretty much the same goals, but seems to accomplish them more smoothly
[13:38:30] <chromas> I see liquorix in the aur, though the nvidia driver's flagged as outdated
[13:38:32] <Runaway1956> That is just one user's opinion and experience
[13:38:50] <chromas> Might install it later
[13:38:54] <chromas> I need the rice
[13:38:56] <Runaway1956> I use ngli to install kernel and drivers
[13:39:15] <Runaway1956> I think - let me double check the correct name
[13:42:57] <Runaway1956> all the scripts here - https://smxi.org
[13:42:58] <upstart> ^ 03inxi smxi sgfxi svmi rbxi :: home page
[13:43:28] <Runaway1956> boot to single user, invoke the script, and it guides you through kernel and driver installation
[13:50:08] <chromas> See, if you were part of the arch master race, you could just download the PKGBUILD and then install the kernel & driver like a regular package
[13:50:15] <chromas> and then it would probably flicker
[13:52:02] <Runaway1956> I arched for awhile - got tired of some of that stuff
[13:52:26] <chromas> On a completely unrelated note, people who say there's no "s" in "legos" better be saying .jif or else they're hypocrites
[13:52:27] <Runaway1956> went back to debian for better support
[13:54:01] <chromas> I'm against Debian distros for petty reasons
[13:54:17] <chromas> installing a server package makes it start
[13:54:23] <Runaway1956> My next distro hop is going to be Void I think
[13:54:32] <Runaway1956> I'm not a fan of systemd
[13:55:34] <chromas> I started to play with Void but then I saw package searching and installing use different tools and that's against my religion
[13:56:09] <chromas> I guess that makes it more unic philosophyer
[13:56:25] <Runaway1956> like apt-cache search and apt-get install ??
[13:56:32] <chromas> yeah
[13:57:02] <chromas> but it's like xbps-search or something
[13:57:27] <chromas> at least debian has the incredibly slow apt front-end that does both things
[13:57:33] <Runaway1956> Yeah, but being accustomed to deb, that seems "normal"
[13:57:35] <chromas> or maybe that's an ubuntu thing
[13:57:52] <chromas> it triggers me timbers
[13:58:50] <chromas> even though before arch, I was using suse, which had like 4 or 5 different package tools I think
[13:59:03] <chromas> or maybe that was mandrake
[13:59:39] <Runaway1956> I started my *nix adventure on Suse - too bad they sold out to Microsoft
[14:00:06] <chromas> even worse, their default config for sudo requires the root password
[14:00:43] <chromas> wait a minute
[14:00:51] <Runaway1956> LOL, I cheated - I used the same password for root and user
[14:00:58] <chromas> did I just steer a conversation AWAY from systemd? I might be coming down with something
[14:01:08] <chromas> That's not cheating; that's the default
[14:01:26] <chromas> at least when I was using it
[14:01:57] <Runaway1956> In my case, I supplied the root password during early stages of setup, creating a user came at the very end
[14:02:09] <chromas> ah
[14:02:09] <Runaway1956> I merely supplied the same password for the user
[14:02:14] <Runaway1956> so it was my doing
[14:03:06] <janrinok> Runaway1956, you usually get offered the choice of root password or the same password for the first user and root.
[14:03:14] <chromas> I think there's a checkbox. Could depend on the installation medium though
[14:03:47] <Runaway1956> Interesting jan - I don't remember that being the case, but it was a long time ago
[14:04:30] <janrinok> thanks for you subs by the way, a handful due to go out over the next 12 hours or so
[14:05:04] <Runaway1956> No problem with subs - when I have the time to browse stuff, I just share what I find
[14:05:33] <janrinok> anyway, back to your tech talk - I was lurking and enjoying it
[14:05:50] <Runaway1956> OMG, were we teching?
[14:06:22] <chromas> I like suse's sax2 tool. Made it easy to configure X, since X was almsot as far behind the times on configuring itself as C/C++ is on implementing modules
[14:07:02] <FatPhil> Suse was fantastic for X back in the 1990s, certainly, way ahead of the game.
[14:07:22] <chromas> A few years ago they switched all their yast stuff over from python to ruby
[14:07:39] <Runaway1956> I found Suse just about the time that WinXP 64-bit came out
[14:07:40] <FatPhil> Suse was the only distro I could get to reliably run on my DEC Alpha in X for ages.
[14:08:05] <Runaway1956> XP wouldn't play will with my NIC, and no amount of coaxing could make it work
[14:08:18] <FatPhil> Don't use coax, then
[14:08:22] <FatPhil> boom tish!
[14:08:29] <Runaway1956> Suse just took it in stride, so I was hooked on Linux
[14:08:34] <chromas> You probably needed 32-bit xp. didn't 64-bit have almost no drivers?
[14:09:06] <Runaway1956> I was stubborn - I purchased an Opteron, and I was by-god going to run 64 bit
[14:09:24] <Runaway1956> even if I had to learn an whole new way of using a computer
[14:10:19] <FatPhil> That's why I bought an Alpha. Fuck it, it's the late 90s, I'm gonna be 64-bit unlike the backward intel-weenies!
[14:10:48] <Runaway1956> exactly, FatPhil - that's exactly where I was at
[14:11:00] <Runaway1956> except, I didn't yet know what an Alpha was
[14:12:40] <chromas> that was long before beta too
[14:12:41] <chromas> fuck beta
[14:12:54] <Runaway1956> buck feta
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[14:13:51] <chromas> ~ident
[14:13:54] <chromas> ~identify
[14:13:55] <chromas> hm
[14:14:02] <chromas> #smake exec
[14:14:02] * MrPlow smakes exec upside the head with rusty razor wire wrapped sledgehammer
[14:15:08] <FatPhil> chromas: XP 64 bit was for the Itanium, IIRC, so drivers weren't the problem, CPUs were!
[14:15:44] <chromas> Itanium, eh
[14:15:51] * chromas waits for NCommander rumblings
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[14:16:40] <chromas> I think it's time we had a reversal on the cpus
[14:16:53] <chromas> for too long, we've been simulating neural nets on x86 cpus
[14:16:54] <Runaway1956> I can't say for sure about Itaniams, but eventually, XP came out for x86 chips, more commonly known as Intel
[14:17:12] <chromas> instead, we should have giant dsp chips to run neural nets to simulate x86
[14:17:18] <cmn32480> why woudl you go from a cpu to a upc?
[14:17:26] <cmn32480> those barcodes don't contain that much information
[14:17:29] <chromas> because I like bars
[14:17:40] <chromas> but muh aesthetics
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[14:17:45] <janrinok> cmn32480, !!
[14:17:51] <chromas> ooh, ipv6 for exec
[14:17:52] <cmn32480> ~gday janrionk
[14:17:56] * exec cromulently writes a fanfic featuring a stash of syphilis about janrionk
[14:18:10] <janrinok> er, no thanks, I'll pass on that offer
[14:18:22] <janrinok> ~gday cmn32480
[14:18:23] * exec explicitly pairs a raid 1 volume of black ice with cmn32480
[14:18:30] <FatPhil> chromas: the GPUs of the last few years have been similar to the DSPs of the 90s.
[14:18:35] <cmn32480> that's pretty slick
[14:18:44] <janrinok> )
[14:19:02] <chromas> Isn't that was sound cards/win modems are too? Or is I wrong?
[14:19:11] <Runaway1956> Did somebody say slick? https://www.youtube.com
[14:19:12] <upstart> ^ 03404 Not Found
[14:19:45] <Runaway1956> try it again? https://www.youtube.com
[14:19:49] <upstart> ^ 03YouTube
[14:20:37] <chromas> ^ 03Man Fingers Unit - YouTube
[14:21:58] <FatPhil> damn, Boeings still doing nose-dives: https://www.zerohedge.com
[14:23:23] <Runaway1956> financial nosedives don't excite me terribly - just so they don't do any more physical nosedives
[14:24:05] <chromas> it's noses all the weigh down
[14:24:30] <Runaway1956> what happened to the turtles then
[14:25:09] <chromas> they're...above it all
[14:25:35] <FatPhil> I see boeing as anti-competitive, so my schadenfreud lobe throbs each time there's bad Boeing or good Airbus news.
[14:26:54] <Bytram> coffee++
[14:26:54] <Bender> karma - coffee: 5004
[14:28:40] * Bytram reads scrollback... what a chatty lot you've been! FYI: May get interrupted at any time with a phone call.
[14:28:53] <FatPhil> I also like the effect that Boeing has on the Dow, hoping it kicks off more twitchiness elsewhere.
[14:32:15] <Runaway1956> JMH has so much in common with MDC - except MDC was more lucid
[14:36:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> both crazy but very different varieties of crazy
[14:38:21] <Runaway1956> I think I met his sister in NYC - she was convinced the Jews were doing much the same to her as JMH describes.
[14:38:22] <chromas> two coins on the same side
[14:45:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://www.space.com May the force be with her.
[14:45:06] <MrPlow> Unable to find a summary for that page
[14:45:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> blarg
[14:45:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> #submit https://www.dailymail.co.uk May the force be with her.
[14:45:47] <MrPlow> Submitting. There is a mandatory delay, please be patient.
[14:46:13] <MrPlow> Submission successful. https://soylentnews.org
[14:46:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> da hell? thas a 2015 story, damnit.
[14:47:07] <janrinok> perhaps we won't notice and post it anyway....
[14:47:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> too late
[14:48:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> being an admin means never having to suffer one of your own bad subs making it to the front page. if you notice in time anyway.
[14:49:04] <Runaway1956> I dunno - maybe Star Trek and the Force really do belong in the same article?
[14:50:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> they do if i haven't done any trolling in a while
[14:51:46] <Runaway1956> Did someone delete my delete button?
[14:52:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> did you have one?
[14:52:24] <FatPhil> Maybe 2015-2019 is the mandatory delay MrPlow is talking about?
[14:52:29] * Runaway1956 goes in search of Aristarchus' keyboard
[14:52:55] <FatPhil> ~gday Runaway1956
[14:52:57] * exec ceremoniously redirects a tcp stream of gas into Runaway1956
[14:53:29] <Runaway1956> no fair, my silly key is bound to something else
[14:53:34] <FatPhil> how to add an adverb to exec?
[14:53:38] <Runaway1956> I should probably change it back
[14:53:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday >adverb smurfily
[14:53:55] <exec> added to adverbs
[14:54:13] <FatPhil> I'm sure this is already there
[14:54:30] <FatPhil> ~gday >adverb unceremoniously
[14:54:31] <exec> added to adverbs
[14:54:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday >adverb redundantly
[14:54:40] <exec> added to adverbs
[14:54:48] * Runaway1956 still hasn't figured out why it's called a grave key
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[14:54:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday >adverb redundantly
[14:54:51] <exec> error: adverb already exists
[14:54:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday >adverb extra redundantly
[14:54:58] <exec> added to adverbs
[14:55:08] <FatPhil> ~gday >adverb invisibly
[14:55:09] <exec> added to adverbs
[14:56:17] <FatPhil> hmmm, my achievements today, listed in order of increasing urgency:
[14:56:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> Runaway1956, because it kills the usefulness of the left shift key?
[14:56:26] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~gday >adverb repeatedly redundantly
[14:56:28] <exec> added to adverbs
[14:57:21] <AndyTheAbsurd> ~gday all y'all
[14:57:23] * exec diarrhetically lobs a tremendouns number of unladen swallows at all
[14:59:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> who the hell decided yall needed an apostrophe? i mean if we're going to leave out most of the word "you", why do you think we're going to hit an extra key if there's no confusion caused by leaving it out?
[14:59:28] <AndyTheAbsurd> dunno
[14:59:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> silly yankees prolly
[15:00:06] <AndyTheAbsurd> The English language is full of educated idiots having bad ideas which become the "rules" of the language.
[15:00:54] <Runaway1956> Life would be better if we forgot English, and just speak 'Murican
[15:01:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> so, i learned a new trick. if i sit at my computer for more than an hour i can get the muscles in the left side of my neck to cramp up and the entire course of the radial nerve on that side to hurt
[15:03:04] <Runaway1956> The radial nerve being the one you operate the radial saw with
[15:03:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> nah, the one i change tires with
[15:03:50] <Runaway1956> radial tires
[15:04:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> speaking of tires, it's getting towards nap time. think i'll get some grub, have a smoke, and do that.
[15:05:44] <Teckla> American English > British English
[15:07:18] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.oann.com
[15:07:20] <upstart> Submitting "Drug companies reach $260 million settlement, averting first federal opioid trial"...
[15:07:42] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Drug Companies Reach $260 Million Settlement, Averting First Federal Opioid Trial" (22 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[15:07:59] <AndyTheAbsurd> Yes. They call soccer "football" and football...uh... I don't know what they call football.
[15:08:35] <AndyTheAbsurd> And they give their cars bonnets and boots.
[15:09:04] * AndyTheAbsurd thinks about other Britishisms that seem ridiculous to most Americans.
[15:10:04] <AndyTheAbsurd> "chemist" for drugstore, that's a good one.
[15:11:30] <Teckla> I was thinking more that American English fixes the spelling of a lot words.
[15:12:36] <FatPhil> we call rugby "rugby", no idea what we call hand-egg.
[15:12:59] <FatPhil> I'm a fairly radical Brit, I support Noah Webster.
[15:13:36] <Teckla> s/lot words/lot of words/
[15:13:47] <FatPhil> AndyTheAbsurd: not at all, because they aren just "stores", they actually perform the mixing of the chemicals.
[15:14:20] <FatPhil> And after 20 years in "Apteeki"/"Apotek" countries, I'm loving the word "apothecary" nowadays.
[15:15:08] <Teckla> That being said, British English is better in many ways, too. Like how they pronounce "solder" and how they spell aluminium (vs. aluminum).
[15:15:32] <Teckla> And their awesome accent makes them sound +10 to INT. :)
[15:16:07] <Bytram> ~sed on
[15:16:09] <exec> sed enabled for 10#soylent
[15:16:50] <FatPhil> One of the few strokes I get, almost everywhere I go round the world, is that people love my "beautiful" accent :-)
[15:16:58] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Variation in Transplant Centers' Use of Less-Than-Ideal Donor Kidneys - https://sylnt.us - how-good-is-good-enough?
[15:16:58] <Bytram> =submit https://phys.org
[15:17:00] <upstart> Submitting "Your political views can predict how you pronounce certain words"...
[15:17:06] <FatPhil> the exception being Britain, where they think I speak like a twat.
[15:17:21] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Your Political Views Can Predict How You Pronounce Certain Words" (29 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[15:17:30] <Bytram> FatPhil: s/wa/wi/
[15:17:32] <exec> <Bytram> <FatPhil> the exception being Britain, where they think I speak like a twit.
[15:17:37] <Bytram> ;)
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[15:17:46] <SoyCow9088> =submit https://www.zdnet.com
[15:17:47] * Teckla wishes his iPhone 8 had more RAM, so it wouldn't so aggressively swap out apps he switches between frequently.
[15:17:50] <upstart> Submitting "Avast says hackers breached internal network through compromised VPN profile"...
[15:18:08] <Bytram> ruh roh.
[15:18:11] <Bytram> ~time x
[15:18:12] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Avast Says Hackers Breached Internal Network Through Compromised VPN Profile" (21 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[15:18:13] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Monday, 21 October 2019, 3:18 pm
[15:18:17] <FatPhil> Well, I think in Liverpool it was pronounced "uh fuhhin twa'"
[15:18:26] <Bytram> LOL
[15:18:31] <FatPhil> didn't understand the rest of the sentence.
[15:18:56] <chromas> Damn. Too late to grab FatPhil's thing about strokes
[15:29:05] <FatPhil> Make up for it with some twits: https://www.youtube.com
[15:29:09] <upstart> ^ 03YouTube
[15:30:42] <Bytram> !uid
[15:30:43] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 8674, owned by IbuxaCox
[15:31:00] <Bytram> =uid 8663
[15:31:07] <Bytram> oh well.
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[15:46:31] <boru> Bytram; sorry, I wasn't /joining; my new ISP disconnects me every 24h.
[15:48:36] <Bytram> Huh? Oh! Got it, tx!
[15:49:04] <Bytram> Isn't that so... thoughtful^H^H^Hless of them!
[15:51:45] <boru> Indeed. It's just so they can charge an extra €5 a month for a static IP...even though they use IPv6.
[15:52:37] <Bytram> Huh? Sense no makes!
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[15:52:48] <boru> Indeed, but when have telcos ever made sense?
[15:53:07] <Bytram> depends if you are talking about the customers or shareholders
[15:53:28] <boru> True, that.
[15:55:09] <Bytram> FWIW, I live in an apartment building with just under 40 units and the property is immediately adjacent to a telco "substation"; I've been toying with the idea of what it would take to set up a 40-port switch, run some fiber, and set up 1 gig up/down for the whole building.
[15:55:45] <Bytram> I suspect the technical issues would be utterly dwarfed by the regulatory issues/ :: sad face ::
[15:55:54] <boru> I was just about to say the same thing.
[15:56:14] <Bytram> pretty sad, eh?
[15:56:56] <Runaway1956> Florida woman story?
[15:57:09] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.foxnews.com
[15:57:10] <upstart> Submitting "Florida woman allegedly flees 2 car crashes, kills driver in 3rd crash"...
[15:57:13] <Bytram> not following you on that one?
[15:57:32] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Florida Woman Allegedly Flees 2 Car Crashes, Kills Driver in 3rd Crash" (14 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[16:00:08] <FatPhil> Bytram: a mate of mine did that in the helsinki region back in the 90s - forming a cooperative ISP. Worked pretty well, I signed up to it when I moved there.
[16:01:07] <FatPhil> Had 2M/2M when most of the neighbours were on 256k/64k or 384k/64k, and for a lower price.
[16:02:01] <FatPhil> still had to pay the ISP for rent of the "alarm wire", of course, and that was 75% of the cost of the connection.
[16:03:10] <Bytram> Unfortunately, my networking knowledge is mostly at an abstract level, so I'd be in no position to actually be able to set it up. Then the regulatory hurdles, then there's billing and customer service, and dealing with late or non-paid bills, and ... well... nvm
[16:03:30] <FatPhil> we used to call it the "wire dusting bill", because the ISP literally had to do nothing for a decade. clip 4 pairs of TP into some slots in a rack, 10 minutes work. nothing more to do ever.
[16:03:45] <Bytram> nod nod
[16:04:59] <FatPhil> Idiotic thing was that one of the telcos decided to brand itself with some initials that were identical to that of our ISP ("Domestic Network Association", they were "DNA"), and they tried to sue us for rights to that name, despite the fact we got there a decae before them.
[16:05:35] <Bytram> how did THAT work out?
[16:05:49] <Bytram> countersue and claim damages?
[16:05:59] <FatPhil> One of the founders used to say "we can start to talk about giving you the name when a set of C6 'vette keys gets posted through my letterbox, and I see it parked outside.
[16:06:16] <Bytram> NOW you're talking!
[16:06:33] <Bytram> and... ?
[16:06:57] <FatPhil> We couldn't be arsed to fight, and eventually just sold it to them for a nominal fee. We were a non-profit anyway, and becoming less necessary as telcos caught up with technology.
[16:07:56] <Bytram> And they *knew* you couldn't/didn't want to fight it, so they just wore you down. :(
[16:08:34] <Bytram> might have been interesting to get local media involved and have them make a stink about it in the papers / telly
[16:11:14] <Bytram> afk; break time
[16:18:29] <Runaway1956> =submit https://www.fairobserver.com
[16:18:32] <upstart> Submitting "Hillary Clinton’s Imaginary Russian Assets"...
[16:18:54] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Hillary Clinton’s Imaginary Russian Assets" (27 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
[16:57:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Trial Set in New York on Exxon's Climate Statements - https://sylnt.us - lies,-damn-lies,-and-statistics
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[19:53:40] <Bytram> ~time x
[19:53:42] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Monday, 21 October 2019, 7:53 pm
[20:06:36] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - California Law Bans For-Profit: Private Prisons, Immigration Detention Centers - https://sylnt.us - or-else-they-will-send-you...-to-prison?
[20:17:44] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - California Law Bans For-Profit: Private Prisons, Immigration Detention Centers - https://sylnt.us - or-else-they-will-send-you...-to-prison?
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[21:36:00] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Test Diagnoses Lyme Disease Within 15 Minutes - https://sylnt.us
[21:47:35] <Bytram> =g GCHQ
[21:47:35] <upstart> https://www.gchq.gov.uk - GCHQ
[21:47:43] <Bytram> =g GCHQ headquarters
[21:47:44] <upstart> https://en.wikipedia.org - GCHQ - Wikipedia
[21:48:01] <Bytram> =g GCHQ headquarters acronym
[21:48:01] <upstart> https://en.wikipedia.org - GCHQ - Wikipedia
[21:52:14] <Bytram> =g APT34
[21:52:14] <upstart> https://www.fireeye.com - Hard Pass: Declining APT34's Invite to Join Their Professional ...
[21:52:25] <Bytram> =g APT34 wikipedia
[21:52:25] <upstart> https://en.wikipedia.org - Helix Kitten - Wikipedia
[21:54:20] <Bytram> https://en.wikipedia.org
[21:54:21] <upstart> ^ 03Helix Kitten - Wikipedia
[21:54:35] <Bytram> https://en.wikipedia.org
[21:54:36] <upstart> ^ 03Helix Kitten - Wikipedia
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[23:14:33] <AzumaHazuki> wheee. got a 220-grit sanding and another coat of polyshades on the wood bits. hopefully i'll have this thing built by the end of the week
[23:17:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Kids Outsmart Apple's New Parental Controls - https://sylnt.us - ...if-it-hadn't-have-been-for-those-meddling-kids
[23:22:49] <Sulla> What are you working on?
[23:24:22] <Sulla> https://ibb.co https://ibb.co most recent photos of the river table before pouring epoxy
[23:24:23] <upstart> ^ 03IMG-20191020-1826488
[23:24:23] <upstart> ^ 03IMG-20191020-1827065
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