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[01:06:13] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Raspberry Pi 4B CPU Overclocked to 2.147 GHz, GPU at 750 MHz - https://sylnt.us - Hot-Stuff!
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[02:38:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net
[02:46:06] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - PlayStation 5 Includes AMD Hardware-Based Ray Tracing, Supports 100 GB Blu-ray Discs - https://sylnt.us - Blu-Ray-Tracing
[02:46:57] <chromas> Raystashon
[03:27:48] <AzumaHazuki> ooooh https://github.com
[03:27:50] <upstart> ^ 03tildearrow/kwin-lowlatency
[03:27:57] <AzumaHazuki> i may try this. i really like Plasma for the most part
[03:31:32] <AzumaHazuki> liquidshell looks interesting too
[04:16:32] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - HildaCrypt Ransomware Developer Releases Decryption Keys - https://sylnt.us - it-accidently-got-out
[04:19:34] <chromas> The worst part about KDE 5 is no vertical taskbars or clocks
[04:20:03] <chromas> I was looking into it and apparently qt5 doesn't support text rotation
[04:20:20] <chromas> Time to switch to gtk4 I guess
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[04:28:13] <chromas> For reasons unknown, building liquidshell requires svn and ruby
[04:29:45] <AzumaHazuki> > gtk4
[04:30:00] <AzumaHazuki> come on, man, xfce JUST got done porting to gtk3
[04:31:00] <chromas> hm, got all the rubies and svns and whatever installed and now it's just compilation errors. :(
[04:31:51] <chromas> they should port xfce to qt5
[04:32:53] <chromas> https://edeproject.org
[04:32:55] <upstart> ^ 03EDE - light and fast desktop environment
[04:33:22] <chromas> Wow. They don't even have gradients in the title bars
[04:34:03] <AzumaHazuki> ah, equinox...
[04:34:10] <AzumaHazuki> i got this running once but didn't like it
[04:37:14] <chromas> Have you tried Trinity?
[04:37:33] <chromas> All the old, abandoned desktops have forks to keep them going
[04:37:40] <chromas> I bet nobody forked kde4 though
[04:38:28] <AzumaHazuki> would you belive trinity's stuff won't install on arch/artix due to ttf-freefont not being a thing now?
[04:38:56] <AzumaHazuki> hmm...liquidshell failed
[04:39:15] <chromas> #MeToo
[04:39:29] <chromas> can you just edit the pkgbuild for trinity?
[04:39:42] <AzumaHazuki> possibly, but it's a repo, but an AUR thing
[04:40:06] <AzumaHazuki> Xfce seems the sanest modern DE. unfortunately most gtk3 themes aren't made for it and the panel, therefore, looks like ass
[04:41:35] <chromas> I wonder if the Windows Explorer shell would run in wine
[04:42:07] <AzumaHazuki> bleh, i hope not
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[05:27:56] <SoyCow1337> =submit https://www.zdnet.com
[05:27:59] <upstart> Submitting "FBI warns about attacks that bypass multi-factor authentication (MFA)"...
[05:28:21] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "FBI Warns About Attacks That Bypass Multi-factor Authentication (MFA)" (14 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[05:46:45] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Amazing Open Source Quadruped Capable Of Dynamic Motion - https://sylnt.us - quad-runner
[07:17:52] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Discord Confirms Layoffs After Internal Restructuring - https://sylnt.us - discord-in-the-office
[07:54:09] <janrinok> "I was looking into it and apparently qt5 doesn't support text rotation" - it most certainly does. Try reading: https://doc.qt.io
[07:54:23] <janrinok> chromas^
[07:57:45] <janrinok> I have a display that plots aircraft from their ADSB transmissions. They are all orientated to their track. The text that I display next to the symbol can also be rotated or left normal depending on a user option.
[07:58:00] <chromas> Yeah, I should've said the label widget doesn't support rotation
[07:58:26] <chromas> Now when you do the transform operation, does it transform before or after rasterizing the text?
[07:59:16] <chromas> janrinok++
[07:59:16] <Bender> karma - janrinok: 59
[08:00:32] <janrinok> your choice, but you get slightly different results.
[08:00:50] <chromas> I'd want it to transform before
[08:01:51] <janrinok> It can translate any widget according to the documentation. I certainly haven't found one that it can't but I have only tried obvious use cases. I'm not sure of what you are trying to do.
[08:02:39] <chromas> I wanted to rotate the time in KDE's clock and taskbar widgets
[08:03:03] <chromas> s/im(.)/\1xt/
[08:04:03] <janrinok> so you want to rotate text inside a widget?
[08:05:59] <chromas> Yeah. I thought they'd have a rotation property on the qlabel. I'll look at that page and dick around with it later/
[08:07:48] <janrinok> I've never tried that. There is no rotation property, but you could always subclass qlabel and add one I suppose
[08:10:27] <chromas> the text automatically rotated in kde 3, and 4 had a third-party clock widget that could take css properties, including rotation and stuff. Nothing for 5 far as I can tell.. It's like the stone age
[08:10:57] <chromas> Are you using qt with python?
[08:11:30] <janrinok> I don't know KDE at all, so I am not sure what the clock widget looks like. If it is subclassed from QWidget it should be rotatable _as a widget_. And I am assuming that is a digital clock readout if you are using qLabel to display it.
[08:12:43] <janrinok> And I think you are referring to a special KDE widget - I've got no idea what they have done to that. But if the code exists for QT4 it should be possible to bend it into something that QT5 can cope with.
[08:13:47] <janrinok> There are major changes between 4 and 5, but I've found that while the exact same routine might have gone there is usually something in there that replaces its functionality.
[08:17:53] <janrinok> Reading a bit further, I think the problem is that transformation are usually carried out on a QGraphicsView, and I suspect that you would have to do a lot of work to re-subclass the taskbar to make it do what you want. Having said that, I cannot remember ever seeing a widget in a task bar that wasn't oriented normally.
[08:18:43] <janrinok> yes, pyqt5 with python 3
[08:56:01] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Paralysed Man Moves In Mind-Reading Exoskeleton - https://sylnt.us - where-do-you-want-it?
[10:25:12] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Four U.S. Food Chains Disclose Payment Card Theft Via Point of Sale Malware - https://sylnt.us - what-does-POS-stand-for-again?
[11:18:40] <FatPhil> woo woo - permanent Estonian residency paid and signed for.
[11:19:05] <FatPhil> card to arrive before 31st!
[11:19:55] <FatPhil> then again, I really wouldn't want to put money on Brexit actually happening then.
[11:23:01] <FatPhil> .ee have completely nailed the form-filling aspects of the application. I explained that I wanted permanent residence, gave her my old card. she scanned it, did some clicky clicky, verified my contact details, printed something and got me to sign it twice. Paid. Done.
[11:25:12] <FatPhil> All of the biometric stuff was done while I was in the very short queue, it got associated with my id card for the staff to process automatically.
[11:25:55] <FatPhil> now I've got to wait for the yanky scum, she's a bit more complicated.
[11:56:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Twenty Additional Small Moons Found Orbiting Saturn - https://sylnt.us - luna_1-luna_2-Luna3-etc
[13:27:27] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - FBI Warns About Attacks That Bypass Multi-factor Authentication (MFA) - https://sylnt.us - still-recommended-but-not-foolproof
[14:13:57] <Bytram> whereto? http://rss.computerworld.com
[14:13:58] <upstart> ^ 03With Windows Virtual Desktop, the bad old days are coming back ( https://www.computerworld.com )
[14:25:15] <AndyTheAbsurd> "Windows Virtual Desktop" = VMs running Windows as a service.
[14:25:28] <AndyTheAbsurd> Which was already a thing that I could buy from Amazon if I wanted to...
[14:34:42] <Bytram> Reading the article, though, it supports running windows desktops on different unices and even in HTML 5 on a browser, and on Chromebooks and other platforms as well.
[14:36:17] <Bytram> It's as if they have been able to virtualize the userland windowing environment and are able to replace the entire WIN-NT-based "kernel"
[14:38:20] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - FBI Warns About Attacks that Bypass Multi-Factor Authentication (MFA) - https://sylnt.us - still-recommended-but-not-foolproof
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[14:46:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mounting Brain Organoid Research Reignites Ethical Debate - https://sylnt.us - pea-brained
[15:17:49] <chromas> https://www.theguardian.com
[15:17:51] <upstart> ^ 03My land of make believe: life after The Sims
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[15:35:15] <chopchop1> muh comfort and security
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[16:26:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Tesla Produced a Record-Breaking 96,155 Cars Last Quarter - https://sylnt.us
[17:55:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Kitty Hawk's 'Heaviside' is an Ultra-Quiet Electric Flying Machine - https://sylnt.us - flying-cars-are-so-year-2000
[19:16:54] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Court Finds FBI Use Of NSA Database Violated Americans' Fourth Amendment Rights - https://sylnt.us - they-will-find-a-way-around-it
[19:27:31] <chromas> For some reason, the NSA database doesn't, I guess
[20:56:41] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Sea 'Boiling' with Methane Discovered In Siberia - https://sylnt.us - imagine-a-spherical-cow,-under-water,-burping
[20:58:27] <AndyTheAbsurd> At least the dept. line got the major source of bovine-produced methane correct.
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[21:52:45] <FatPhil> Fuck me, I just watched /The Ruling Class/ (1972), and it was scary how appropriate it was to the arses behind the Brexit fiasco.
[21:53:29] <FatPhil> could have done with some editing though, at 9220s, it was overstuffed with bits that didn't need to be there.
[21:56:15] <AndyTheAbsurd> why did you make me do that conversion
[21:56:33] <AndyTheAbsurd> 153 minutes or 2 hours 33 minutes.
[21:57:22] <chromas> See why we need to bring back metric time?
[21:59:02] <AndyTheAbsurd> ...because it's associated with the French Revolution, and we also need to bring back other things associated with that, like guillotines and dresses that show a lot of cleavage?
[21:59:21] <chromas> You're goddamn right
[22:01:44] * AndyTheAbsurd considers whether to go to SLUG (Suncoast Linux Users Group) or stay at home and be a slug.
[22:02:10] <chromas> Soylent is my lug
[22:04:46] <chromas> oh wait
[22:04:57] <chromas> do they have guillotines and cleavage?
[22:05:32] <chromas> (from the moobs dept.)
[22:05:36] <AndyTheAbsurd> It's unlikely, but not impossible, that either would show up at this meeting.
[22:06:39] <AndyTheAbsurd> Presence of cleavage is more likely at this week's meeting (which happens in Tampa) and presence of a guillotine is more likely at next week's meeting (which happens in Pinellas Park - but you can think of it as happening in St. Petersburg, FL).
[22:15:38] <FatPhil> Given what you've just said, you need to see the movie!
[22:16:12] <AndyTheAbsurd> Is there lots of cleavage?
[22:16:42] <FatPhil> not much, there's a bit of nudity, it did get an X certificate from the BBFC.
[22:17:44] <FatPhil> Swearing probably helped push it into that band.
[22:26:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Aerial Threat: Why Drone Hacking could be Bad News for the Military - https://sylnt.us - security-is-not-an-add-on
[22:31:41] <AndyTheAbsurd> someone named abby who shares my last name made an Instagram account using my e-mail
[22:32:08] <AndyTheAbsurd> which I have now taken over and am in the process of "unfollowing" everyone that she followed
[22:32:33] <AndyTheAbsurd> but about every 20 accounts unfollowed, I find another that makes think "wow, what a dumb bitch!"
[22:34:19] <chromas> instagram doesn't require account email confirmation?
[22:35:30] <AndyTheAbsurd> Apparently not. Or at least didn't when it got set up. She had time to follow more than 1000 accounts.
[22:39:59] <chromas> Did she post anything?
[22:40:12] <chromas> Hunt for ludes
[22:40:17] <chromas> lewds
[22:40:18] <chromas> newds
[22:42:37] <AndyTheAbsurd> She'd posted about 20 pictures, none of them nude or lewd or even mildly risque.
[22:59:20] <FatPhil> Maybe it's time "she" started?
[23:00:43] <FatPhil> owning asdf.fi and asdf.org, we were the recipients of quite a lot of "incorrectly addressed" email, some of which included accounts with online shops and services.
[23:01:17] <AndyTheAbsurd> do you route all mail to asdf@asdf.org to /dev/null?
[23:01:37] <AndyTheAbsurd> Or do you keep it so that you can take over the accounts?
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[23:24:29] <FatPhil> no local account, or nothing in /etc/aliases -> /dev/null, and a black spot on your fail2ban ledger.
[23:26:44] <FatPhil> asdf@asdf.org was indeed one of the largest recipients. Now I get about thousands of attempts to asdf[a-z]{3,4}@asdf.org a day.
[23:55:26] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Pedestrian Detection Systems Don’t Work Well, AAA Finds - https://sylnt.us - double-clutch-your-pearls