#Soylent | Logs for 2019-09-28
« return
[00:10:37] -!- mechanicjay has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
[00:11:27] <Bytram> FatPhil: got it; thanks!
[00:54:12] <chromas> This is the most mediocrest watermelon I've had all day
[00:54:17] <chromas> seedless_watermelon--
[00:54:17] <Bender> karma - seedless_watermelon: -1
[00:55:52] <chromas> Rubber duck debugging would be perfect for scripting languages
[00:56:04] <chromas> They'll save you a lot of work because they have…duck typing
[01:04:36] <Bytram> FatPhil: chromas: I have a favor to ask, if either or both of you are up to it. *if* a journal entry *was* posted, *and* a comment *was* made to it before the journal entry was deleted, then the comment would now point to the next journal entry that would have been made.
[01:04:40] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[01:04:44] <upstart> ^ 03Journal of Azuma Hazuki (5086)
[01:06:36] <Bytram> I'd appreciate it if you could look to see if there are any comments in that journal entry which appear to be directed to a different article. The one that purportedly attacked the staff of the site and made accusations as to the honesty of the staff.
[01:07:11] <Bytram> Obviously, it would be easier to find if we had a copy of the missing journal entry, but such is not our luck. :/
[01:07:41] <chromas> well, we don't even know that there is a missing entry, so
[01:09:08] <Bytram> anyway, I need to take a break and then get my head back around the investigation. Anything either of you can do would mean a lot. Yes, we do NOT know that, but if there *were* a comment that seemed appropriate to such a journal article and not to the stated topic of the one by Azuma, that would be.. very important.
[01:09:35] <Bytram> back in 5-10 minutes.
[01:11:25] -!- mechanicjay [mechanicjay!~jhowe@Soylent/Staff/Sysop/mechanicjay] has joined #Soylent
[01:11:25] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v mechanicjay] by Aphrodite
[01:13:09] <chromas> I wish it wasn't too late to upvote some of those comments
[01:39:36] <Bytram> chromas: do you have a link?
[01:39:57] <chromas> Nah, I got bored with the comments and closed the tab
[01:49:54] -!- boru` [boru`!~boru@rztd-69-618-108-027.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #Soylent
[01:49:56] -!- boru has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by boru`!~boru@rztd-69-618-108-027.dynamic.mnet-online.de))]
[01:49:59] boru` is now known as boru
[01:52:15] -!- AzumaHazuki [AzumaHazuki!~hazuki@xmf-92-154-91-63.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #Soylent
[01:52:16] -!- AzumaHazuki has quit [Changing host]
[01:52:16] -!- AzumaHazuki [AzumaHazuki!~hazuki@the.end.of.time] has joined #Soylent
[01:53:03] <AzumaHazuki> another 8 hour shift that became 12 hours, wheee. good times.
[01:54:14] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: I hope you get overtime!!!
[01:54:45] <AzumaHazuki> yup. still crap pay for what I do but at least i've established myself in the bosses' eyes
[01:54:59] <AzumaHazuki> speaking of, the one who's out for now brought his newborn son in :3 soooooo cute, OMG
[01:55:11] <AzumaHazuki> the most precious little sock feet, eeee
[01:56:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New Nodersok Malware Has Infected Thousands of PCs - https://sylnt.us
[01:58:12] <Bytram> there ya go!!!!!!!!!
[01:59:02] <AzumaHazuki> he's a month preemie but was 7lb 13oz and perfectly healthy, so no harm done, just early
[01:59:22] * AzumaHazuki goes to attack a Wraith Spire to each of her ovaries, eesh
[01:59:26] <Bytram> Whoah! 7lb13oz... preeemie?
[01:59:49] <Bytram> what wold it have weighed if he was full term? Zoinjks!
[02:00:14] * Bytram has tired arms and that leads to fat fingers, plz forgive the typos
[02:00:57] <AzumaHazuki> i have no idea. i was 8lb 3oz and about 12 hours late, my brother was 8 12 and a week late, so...
[02:18:23] * TheMightyBuzzard cackles at Azuma the Hardass squeeing over baby feets
[02:19:35] <AzumaHazuki> come on, i've always loved babies. if i were straight or even the least little bit bisexual i'd have popped out a baseball team
[02:19:37] <Bytram> waitaminute! *everybody* squeeeees over little baby's footsies and fingers!!!
[02:20:16] <Bytram> and here I thought you'd have said a football team! ;)
[02:20:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> no me. i can't stand the little critters until they're old enough to be annoying on purpose.
[02:21:36] <chromas> how do you know they're not doing it on purpose?
[02:21:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, sperm bank?
[02:22:10] <AzumaHazuki> meh, no. too poor, Lisa doesn't want kids, and the world is waaaaay too overpopulated. she may consider adoption at some point
[02:22:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> ahh
[02:22:21] <Bytram> choo
[02:22:27] <AzumaHazuki> but with the economy like it is, and frankly with how badly my life's gone, it would be irresponsible
[02:22:43] <chromas> you need to start being a worse person. that'll make it easier to get financial assistance
[02:22:46] <TheMightyBuzzard> well there's generally plenty of guys happy to let you take out a loan just for a gander at the girls
[02:23:05] <AzumaHazuki> so i'm told
[02:23:11] <AzumaHazuki> hope and pray i never end up that desperate
[02:23:12] <chromas> Soylent Mingle
[02:23:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> or you could like pick someone you reckon would be a good donor and ask for half a baby
[02:24:05] <chromas> Which half though?
[02:24:20] <AzumaHazuki> like i said...too many humans already, and i'm too poor. as things stand, good intentions alone don't make good parents
[02:24:32] <Bytram> AzumaHazuki: I respect your decision. I'd had thoughts of getting married, but that did not work out. Long and painful story. Now, given my age, there is no sense in my starting a family. There's a good chance I'd die of old age before they graduated high school.
[02:24:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> well, i'd vote for the half with a Y chromosome just to annoy her a little bit extra
[02:24:50] <AzumaHazuki> ...DNA doesn't work that way
[02:25:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> true. only 99.95% or so of the time
[02:25:22] <Bytram> isnt it a double helix? I'd split it right down the middle!
[02:25:25] <Bytram> =)
[02:25:40] <AzumaHazuki> i've met a lot of people i'm pretty sure have only one helix...
[02:25:46] <Bytram> that said, I need food. afk; biab.
[02:25:52] <Bytram> touche'
[02:25:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> you like herlix anyway, so it's moot
[02:25:58] <Bytram> ciao for now
[02:26:07] * chromas gives Bytram the compose key
[02:26:55] <AzumaHazuki> chow for now perhaps? =P
[02:27:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh come on, that was quality dumb punage
[02:28:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, the okay symbol and the bowl cut are now hate symbols according to the ADL. and they wonder why nobody takes them seriously.
[02:30:21] <AzumaHazuki> more like dorkage symbols
[02:30:45] <AzumaHazuki> the key to dealing with the KKKrackheads is to treat them like the self-parodying clowns they are
[02:31:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> well the latter, sure. the former has plenty of functional uses, even if it shares most of them with the thumbs-up
[02:31:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> yup. ditto the wackjobs on the other team.
[03:25:05] * chromas sets out a plate of chocolate chip peanut butter banana oatmeal cookies
[03:29:50] <AzumaHazuki> crap, i ate at night...not going into autophagy tonight :/ then again i was getting faint and ran my ass off for 12 hours so...
[03:30:14] <Bytram> =g autophagy
[03:30:15] <upstart> https://www.healthline.com - Autophagy: Definition, Diet, Fasting, Cancer, Benefits, and More
[03:31:28] <AzumaHazuki> feeling weird...weak, strange feeling in left arm, kind of faint. it's not a heart attack, this has happened before. just overworked and anxious most likely
[03:31:56] <chromas> Does it get worse when you think about it? Does distraction help at all?
[03:32:59] <AzumaHazuki> yeah, that's the plan
[03:33:25] <Bytram> plan about what? ;)
[03:33:26] * AzumaHazuki buries herself in a big (virtual) pile of Touhou fanwork and tries to ignore it, waits for soup to hit bloodstream
[03:33:47] <chromas> What kind of soup?
[03:34:10] <Bytram> https://arstechnica.com
[03:34:11] <upstart> ^ 03Transplanting poop can be beneficial
[03:34:27] <chromas> =g poop transplant site:soylentnews.org
[03:34:28] <upstart> [0 results]
[03:34:31] <chromas> lies
[03:34:53] <chromas> https://soylentnews.org
[03:34:54] <AzumaHazuki> i made beef broth in the crockpot earlier in the week. just poured a can of clams and a cake of noodles into it and ate that
[03:34:55] <upstart> ^ 03One Dead After Poop Transplant Gone Wrong, FDA Warns - SoylentNews
[03:34:59] <AzumaHazuki> very plain, but nice
[03:35:48] <chromas> I've never had clams but they seem like they'd be like eating snot bubbles
[03:36:01] <Bytram> interesting... beef and clam flavors, together. I'd never thought of that. They sound surprisingly complementary.
[03:36:15] <AzumaHazuki> the beef broth is very neutral actually
[03:37:17] <Bytram> I tend to sense it towards the back and upper part of my palate, kind if a matte, flat flavor. That, with a bit in the front, roof of my mouth.
[03:37:38] <chromas> Why is the roof inside the mouth?
[03:37:41] <Bytram> Clams, to me, are more center-of-the-mouth, right over the tongue.
[03:37:44] <AzumaHazuki> it's...earthy, filling. feels like it has substance it will give you
[03:37:49] <Bytram> big mouth>
[03:37:55] <Bytram> s/>/?/
[03:38:10] <Bytram> nod nod
[03:38:23] <Bytram> well, my din din has caught up with *me*
[03:38:34] <Bytram> is way to late and I needs to get some sleep.
[03:38:52] <Bytram> nice chatting with all of you; have a great night everybody!
[03:38:55] <AzumaHazuki> i usually fast 16-18 hours of the day. this is unusual, but so is working a bunch of 12 hour shifts in a row
[03:38:59] <AzumaHazuki> sleep well
[03:44:32] <chromas> So if you don't eat all day, are you fastened?
[03:49:03] <AzumaHazuki> hell knows. my diet's crap so i'm back up to almost 150 again >< wanna be 140 again dammit
[03:49:19] <AzumaHazuki> i'm getting there, definitely losing, but it's going to be slow
[04:17:31] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Earliest Signs Of Life: Scientists Find Microbial Remains In Ancient Rocks - https://sylnt.us - not-as-bad-as-some-other-Australian-creatures
[04:39:39] -!- AzumaHazuki has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[05:04:17] <chromas> How about a "+0, nod nod" mod?
[05:05:35] <chromas> Or for those times I really agree, "+1, muppet nod"
[06:35:15] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Impeachment Inquiry, House Intelligence Inquiry, Whistleblower Complaint, and Notes of Call - https://sylnt.us - Politics
[06:47:18] <chromas> https://www.youtube.com
[06:47:20] <upstart> ^ 03LGR - Using a Floppy Disk Drive on a Smartphone
[08:23:52] <inz> ooh, someone fixed the shortlinks to use https, great
[08:24:26] <inz> /me loosens tinfoil hat a bit
[08:46:16] -!- Web_weasel [Web_weasel!~Stefan@cqig64-433-10-1.range14-483.btcentralplus.com] has joined #Soylent
[08:53:22] <chromas> But do the shortlinks redirect to https full links?
[08:53:33] <chromas> or are they http and then sn redirects to https?
[08:55:41] <chromas> Looks like it does go directly to https
[08:55:59] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - GDPR: Only One in Three Businesses are Compliant - Here's What is Holding Them Back - https://sylnt.us - less-is-more
[09:50:59] <Bytram> coffee++
[09:50:59] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4975
[09:51:09] <Bytram> !uid
[09:51:09] <Bender> The current maximum UID is 8599, owned by Emilehit
[10:02:29] <chromas> https://news.softpedia.com
[10:02:30] <upstart> ^ 03Microsoft to Launch Modern Version of the Ergonomic Keyboard
[10:02:53] <Bytram> ~gday chromas
[10:02:54] * exec romantically lobs a 55 gallon drum of icons at chromas
[10:03:03] <chromas> ~g'day Bytram
[10:03:05] * exec buttmagically enriches promises of buttered toast with Bytram
[10:03:07] <Bytram> emoji++ for chromas
[10:03:07] <Bender> karma - emoji: 1
[10:03:37] <Bytram> whelp, looks like that's gonna be my breakfast for today.
[10:03:50] * chromas rolls the drum off to the desktop
[10:05:37] <chromas> You can have some plastic-infused tea with your buttered toast
[10:06:10] <chromas> https://www.forbes.com
[10:06:18] <upstart> ^ 03What Is In Your Tea? How About Billions Of Microplastics
[10:12:26] <Bytram> is that the one where the acids in the tea decompose Styrofoam?
[10:13:00] <chromas> Probably. I didn't read the articles, just the sensational headlines
[10:13:29] <chromas> Can I read a unix socket while another process is already using it?
[10:13:42] <chromas> and if so, does reading it steal the data from it?
[10:16:36] <Bytram> depends... is that socket in metric or imperial units?
[10:17:54] <chromas> no
[10:18:12] <Bytram> WhyNotBoth.jpeg
[10:18:22] <chromas> but it's octagonal drive
[10:18:37] <Bytram> I've had better luck with hexes
[10:24:03] <chromas> don't hex your decimals
[10:24:33] <Bytram> Double, double toil and trouble; fire burn and caldron bubble.
[10:24:56] <Bytram> hmmm, shouldn't those be heximals?
[10:25:35] <chromas> until they hit their teens
[10:25:45] <Bytram> then they would be... animals?
[10:32:02] <Bytram> =g html tidy add block element
[10:32:03] <upstart> http://api.html-tidy.org - HTML Tidy 5.7.0 Options Quick Reference
[10:44:56] <inz> chromas, if a child and parent read from the same socket (should be the only way sockets can be shared) the data is delivered in round-robin manner (at least on Linux)
[10:45:17] <inz> chromas, but if by sockets you mean fifos, then the order is random
[11:15:16] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Researchers Assembled Over 100 Voting Machines. Hackers Broke Into Every Single One. - https://sylnt.us - oops
[11:16:17] <Bytram> coffee++
[11:16:17] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4976
[11:16:19] <Bytram> break time
[11:16:22] <Bytram> afk
[13:09:07] <pinchy> new pharmacy sitcom this fall on ABC starring AzumaHazuki
[13:09:19] <pinchy> called "the Drivethru"
[13:38:57] <Bytram> okay, got some stuff to do; will prolly not be back for a few hours. Last day of my vacation, so don't want to waste it!
[13:47:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Amazon Unveils Ring Cameras for Inside Your Home - https://sylnt.us - NSA-approved-accessories
[14:53:01] -!- AzumaHazuki [AzumaHazuki!~hazuki@xmf-92-154-91-63.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #Soylent
[14:53:01] -!- AzumaHazuki has quit [Changing host]
[14:53:01] -!- AzumaHazuki [AzumaHazuki!~hazuki@the.end.of.time] has joined #Soylent
[15:46:42] -!- AzumaHazuki has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[16:06:30] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - New "Unpatchable" IPhone Exploit Could Allow Jailbreaking on Hundreds of Millions of Devices - https://sylnt.us - good-news-or-bad?
[16:07:31] -!- mechanicjay has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
[16:29:42] -!- mechanicjay [mechanicjay!~jhowe@452-54-01-454.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #Soylent
[16:29:42] -!- mechanicjay has quit [Changing host]
[16:29:42] -!- mechanicjay [mechanicjay!~jhowe@Soylent/Staff/Sysop/mechanicjay] has joined #Soylent
[16:29:42] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v mechanicjay] by Aphrodite
[16:42:31] -!- mechanicjay has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
[17:29:38] <chromas> Ask Soylent: What part of an HDD is actually 2½" or 3½"?
[17:30:11] <chromas> Is it the usable radius of the platters or something?
[18:18:40] <janrinok> I think it is the size of the frame - SSDs are also described by size and they have no platters.
[18:20:26] <janrinok> however, historically it might have been the platter size although this is irrelevant to the user, he needs to know how much data it holds and what size of slot does it fit into.
[18:25:46] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Why People Choose Medically Assisted Death Revealed Through Conversations With Nurses - https://sylnt.us - MAD
[19:16:37] <Bytram> I wonder what story will have its shortened link become: https://sylnt.us
[19:16:38] <upstart> ^ 03YOURLS — Your Own URL Shortener | https://sylnt.us ( https://sylnt.us )
[19:17:04] <Bytram> hmmm https://sylnt.us
[19:17:06] <upstart> ^ 03Sneaky AI Cheats at Hide and Seek - SoylentNews ( https://soylentnews.org )
[19:17:11] <Bytram> LOL!
[19:30:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://sylnt.us
[19:30:07] <upstart> ^ 03Crossbar Searching for Funding and Customers for its ReRAM Products to Compete with Intel's Optane - SoylentNews ( https://soylentnews.org )
[19:30:38] <Bytram> https://sylnt.us
[19:30:39] <upstart> ^ 03Celebrating 50 Years of the RFCs that Define How the Internet Works - SoylentNews ( https://soylentnews.org )
[19:30:45] <chromas> https://sylnt.us
[19:30:46] <Bytram> https://sylnt.us
[19:30:46] <upstart> ^ 03YOURLS — Your Own URL Shortener | https://sylnt.us ( https://sylnt.us )
[19:30:48] <upstart> ^ 03Public Using Mobile Video and Social Media to Name and Shame Chinese Daigou - SoylentNews ( https://soylentnews.org )
[19:30:58] <chromas> https://sylnt.us
[19:30:59] <upstart> ^ 03YOURLS — Your Own URL Shortener | https://sylnt.us ( https://sylnt.us )
[19:31:16] <Bytram> https://sylnt.us
[19:31:19] <upstart> ^ 03Alexa's Advice to 'Kill Your Foster Parents' Fuels Concern Over Amazon Echo - SoylentNews ( https://soylentnews.org )
[19:31:23] <Bytram> https://sylnt.us
[19:31:25] <upstart> ^ 03Bendgate 2.0 - Son of Bendgate - SoylentNews ( https://soylentnews.org )
[19:31:39] <Bytram> https://sylnt.us
[19:31:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://sylnt.us
[19:31:40] <upstart> ^ 03YOURLS — Your Own URL Shortener | https://sylnt.us ( https://sylnt.us )
[19:31:42] <upstart> ^ 03Apps Sharing Your Data With Facebook (Even if you Don't Have an Account) - SoylentNews ( https://soylentnews.org )
[19:31:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://sylnt.us
[19:31:45] <upstart> ^ 03YOURLS — Your Own URL Shortener | https://sylnt.us ( https://sylnt.us )
[19:31:48] <Bytram> https://sylnt.us
[19:31:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> blah
[19:31:51] <upstart> ^ 03A Heckler's Veto With the Weight of the UK Government Behind It - SoylentNews ( https://soylentnews.org )
[19:31:58] <chromas> https://sylnt.us
[19:31:59] <upstart> ^ 03YOURLS — Your Own URL Shortener | https://sylnt.us ( https://sylnt.us )
[19:32:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://sylnt.us
[19:32:02] <Bytram> https://sylnt.us
[19:32:03] <upstart> ^ 03YOURLS — Your Own URL Shortener | https://sylnt.us ( https://sylnt.us )
[19:32:03] <upstart> ^ 03SF Facebook Office Worth More Than $1 Billion in Sale - City Gets $0 in Taxes - SoylentNews ( https://soylentnews.org )
[19:32:15] <chromas> https://sylnt.us
[19:32:16] <upstart> ^ 03YOURLS — Your Own URL Shortener | https://sylnt.us ( https://sylnt.us )
[19:33:33] <Bytram> https://sylnt.us
[19:33:34] <upstart> ^ 03YOURLS — Your Own URL Shortener | https://sylnt.us ( https://sylnt.us )
[19:33:38] <Bytram> https://sylnt.us
[19:33:39] <upstart> ^ 03YOURLS — Your Own URL Shortener | https://sylnt.us ( https://sylnt.us )
[19:33:42] <Bytram> https://sylnt.us
[19:33:44] <upstart> ^ 03Caltech Scientists Use DNA Tiles to Play Tic-Tac-Toe at the Nanoscale - SoylentNews ( https://soylentnews.org )
[19:33:57] <Bytram> https://sylnt.us
[19:33:59] <upstart> ^ 03Mining Co. Says First Autonomous Freight Train Network Fully Operational - SoylentNews ( https://soylentnews.org )
[19:34:08] <chromas> https://sylnt.us
[19:34:09] <upstart> ^ 03YOURLS — Your Own URL Shortener | https://sylnt.us ( https://sylnt.us )
[19:34:18] <Bytram> the minimum is "aaa" and the max is the last-used "czp"; note that the order is: "[a-z][0-9]-"
[19:34:22] <Bytram> https://sylnt.us
[19:34:23] <upstart> ^ 03YOURLS — Your Own URL Shortener | https://sylnt.us ( https://sylnt.us )
[19:34:25] <Bytram> https://sylnt.us
[19:34:26] <upstart> ^ 03YOURLS — Your Own URL Shortener | https://sylnt.us ( https://sylnt.us )
[19:34:41] <Bytram> a minimum of three characters is required.
[19:34:46] <chromas> https://sylnt.us
[19:34:48] <upstart> ^ 03Caltech Scientists Use DNA Tiles to Play Tic-Tac-Toe at the Nanoscale - SoylentNews ( https://soylentnews.org )
[19:34:56] <Bytram> now you got it.
[19:35:03] <chromas> https://sylnt.us
[19:35:03] <upstart> ^ 03YOURLS — Your Own URL Shortener | https://sylnt.us ( https://sylnt.us )
[19:35:18] <chromas> I'm pretty sure they wrapped around from something longer awhile back
[19:35:37] <chromas> like 5 digits or something
[19:35:41] <Bytram> https://sylnt.us
[19:35:43] <upstart> ^ 03Exhibition at Morgan Library in New York of Original JRR Tolkien Illustrations - SoylentNews ( https://soylentnews.org )
[19:36:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://sylnt.us
[19:36:08] <upstart> ^ 03paulej72 - SoylentNews User ( https://soylentnews.org )
[19:36:18] <Bytram> the first character must be a letter, I think
[19:36:23] <Bytram> https://sylnt.us
[19:36:25] <upstart> ^ 03Emacs 25.1 Released [Updated] - SoylentNews ( https://soylentnews.org )
[19:36:36] <Bytram> https://sylnt.us
[19:36:38] <upstart> ^ 03CRISPR Gene-Editing Tested in a Person for the First Time - SoylentNews ( https://soylentnews.org )
[19:36:47] <Bytram> https://sylnt.us
[19:36:47] <upstart> ^ 03YOURLS — Your Own URL Shortener | https://sylnt.us ( https://sylnt.us )
[19:36:50] <chromas> That's what the useradd command thinks, too, but I showed it who's boss
[19:36:57] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://sylnt.us
[19:36:58] <upstart> ^ 03martyb - SoylentNews User ( https://soylentnews.org )
[19:38:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://sylnt.us
[19:38:30] <upstart> ^ 03- SoylentNews User ( https://soylentnews.org )
[19:38:41] <chromas> aw dang; forgot about the domain limit
[19:38:55] <TheMightyBuzzard> awe man, forgot the spaces
[19:39:43] <Bytram> lowercase only, first char must be taken from "[a-z0-9]", 2nd and 3rd chars are the taken from the same set except a hyphen is also permitted. A minimum of 3 characters (as we have not had enough stories to exceed "z--"), smallest valid is "aaa", largest is the result of the most-recent-shortening; "czp"
[19:40:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://sylnt.us
[19:40:05] <upstart> ^ 03The Mighty Buzzard - SoylentNews User ( https://soylentnews.org )
[19:40:09] <chromas> do all ipv6 addresses start with 2600?
[19:40:18] <Bytram> Atari++
[19:40:18] <Bender> karma - atari: 1
[19:40:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> atari++
[19:40:25] <Bender> karma - atari: 2
[19:40:30] <Bytram> phreaking++
[19:40:31] <Bender> karma - phreaking: 1
[19:40:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> captain crunch whistle
[19:40:42] <Bytram> which one wins?
[19:40:45] <Bytram> =g 2600
[19:40:46] <upstart> https://2600.com - 2600 News | 2600
[19:41:17] <Bytram> and the phreaks are the winner!
[19:41:20] <Bytram> oh, wait.
[19:41:36] <Bytram> Isn't there some kind of fight capability in exec?
[19:41:38] <Bytram> ~list
[19:41:39] <exec> ~list ~list-auth ~lock ~unlock
[19:41:39] <exec> ~! ~addr ~api ~arthur ~aur ~bday ~butt ~calc ~cat ~cd ~cid ~comments ~confucius ~convert ~count ~cowsay ~deb ~define ~define-add ~define-count ~define-delete ~define-sources ~devs ~eds ~exec-issue ~execfs ~fah ~filter ~filth ~first ~forex ~fortune ~funding ~g ~g'day ~g'night ~gday ~get ~github-add ~github-del ~github-list ~gnight ~google ~grab ~header ~header-login ~help ~isup ~jisho ~last ~link ~links ~location ~log ~ls ~md ~mkdir ~moo ~nyse
[19:41:39] <exec> ~openthepodbaydoors ~perl6 ~php ~queue ~quickpoll ~quote ~rainbow ~random ~rd ~rehash-issue ~remind ~rmdir ~romajidesu ~rps ~scramble ~sed ~seen ~set ~shorten ~sizeof ~sneak ~sneak-server ~staff ~stash ~story-search ~submit ~suggest ~suggest-api ~suggest-exec ~suggest-rss ~tell ~time ~time-add ~time-del ~time-prefs ~title ~trans ~translate ~translate-sl ~uid ~unset ~unstash ~up ~vote ~weather ~weather-add ~weather-del ~weather-old ~weather-prefs
[19:41:39] <exec> ~welcome ~wget ~youtube ~yt
[19:42:24] <Bytram> oh, thanks for the reminder!
[19:42:26] <chromas> ~filth
[19:43:36] <Bytram> I downloaded a copy of Pale Moon for my new-to-me lappy which is running Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. The file has a .deb extension. Absolute noob question... where should it go in the file system? /usr/local/ something??????
[19:43:48] <chromas> no
[19:43:49] * TheMightyBuzzard fans the outside trying to cool it down
[19:44:03] <chromas> you'd do something like rpm -i filename I think
[19:44:03] <Bytram> ~funding
[19:44:08] <chromas> or just use the package manager
[19:44:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> with a deb?
[19:44:14] <Bytram> yep
[19:44:16] <chromas> oh I mean
[19:44:24] <chromas> dpkg
[19:44:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> https://unix.stackexchange.com
[19:44:44] <upstart> ^ 03How to install a deb file, by dpkg -i or by apt?
[19:45:01] <Bytram> You guys are the best!
[19:45:03] <chromas> do they not have it in the package repo?
[19:45:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> then delete the deb unless you need it
[19:45:29] <chromas> you could also make your own repository and point apt at it
[19:46:05] <chromas> rpms are better because they rotate
[19:47:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> vroom!
[19:47:56] <Bytram> break time
[19:47:59] <Bytram> afk
[19:49:05] <chromas> is there a metric replacement for rpm?
[19:49:10] <chromas> or is that what debs are?
[19:51:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> no, france tried metric time for like five minutes and gave it up on the grounds of everyone else saying "sod off, wankers"
[19:54:01] <chromas> We need it
[19:55:06] <chromas> 1 second = 1 deciminute
[19:56:01] <Bytram> chromas: s/deci/centi/
[19:56:12] <Bytram> ~sed on
[19:56:13] <exec> sed enabled for 10#Soylent
[19:56:14] <Bytram> chromas: s/deci/centi/
[19:56:15] <chromas> nobody needs that much precision
[19:56:16] <exec> <Bytram> <chromas> 1 second = 1 centiminute
[19:56:37] <chromas> but you're right
[19:56:50] <chromas> hour = deciday, then centis for the smaller units
[19:57:00] <Bytram> there currently exist lasers which produce pulses that are measured in femptoseconds and attaseconds
[19:57:10] <Bytram> =g femptosecond
[19:57:11] <upstart> https://iovs.arvojournals.org - Comparison of Posterior Corneal Wavefront Aberrations Between ...
[19:57:19] <chromas> the only problem is then you can't do anything at the 11th hour
[19:57:22] <Bytram> =g attasecond
[19:57:23] <upstart> https://www.flickr.com - Attasecond | stonyloop | Flickr
[19:57:27] <Bytram> lol
[19:57:33] <chromas> you can still do it with the 7th guest though
[19:57:35] <Bytram> =g fempto atta pico
[19:57:36] <upstart> https://en.wikipedia.org - Femto- - Wikipedia
[19:57:53] <Bytram> =g fempto atto pico nano milli micro
[19:57:54] <upstart> https://en.wikipedia.org - Atto- - Wikipedia
[19:59:13] <Bytram> pico = 10^-12, femto == 10 ^-15, and atto=10^-18
[19:59:52] <chromas> so nano is bigger than pico? where does vi fit in?
[20:00:02] <Bytram> less than emacs
[20:01:11] <Bytram> https://en.wikipedia.org
[20:01:12] <upstart> ^ 03Metric prefix - Wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org )
[20:03:45] <SemperOSS> chromas, vi is big, it's 6 as a Roman numeral
[20:03:56] <chromas> oh yeah
[20:03:59] <Bytram> *chuckle*
[20:04:58] <SemperOSS> My favourite editor since I tried Emacs for the first time and had to kill it from another terminal as I didn't know how to exit it. LOL
[20:05:27] <Bytram> Got a piece of trivia for ya WRT roman numerals and timepieces. In the VAST majority of cases, the Roman Numeral presentation of Four O'Clock is *not* "IV", but instead "IIII" !!!!!
[20:05:54] <chromas> SemperOSS: #MeToo
[20:06:06] <Bytram> SemperOSS: I got into the same predicament with vi and that is why I ended up using emacs!
[20:06:35] <Bytram> also, the programmability was built-in and /me loves automation and extending things.
[20:06:37] <SemperOSS> It's all about what you were first introduced to, I guess.
[20:06:41] <Bytram> nograb
[20:06:46] <chromas> Bytram: that was probably the olde english style of roman gnumerales
[20:06:54] <Bytram> gnot so
[20:07:28] <chromas> clocks use it because they're the only thing besides copyright dates and operating systemd to still use romans
[20:08:06] <SemperOSS> And eight is normally represented as VIII instead of IIX, despite the latter being shorter
[20:08:10] <chromas> Microsoft should port EDIT.COM to linux
[20:08:30] <SemperOSS> chromas, go wash your fingers with brown soap!!!!
[20:09:06] * SemperOSS mumbles, EDIT.COM.
[20:09:16] <SemperOSS> Argggggghhhhhhh!!!!!!
[20:09:20] <chromas> you're write. it should be qbasic.exe or whatever
[20:09:33] <chromas> wasn't edit just qb's ide stripped down?
[20:10:18] <SemperOSS> I don't really know, but neither were very good.
[20:10:32] <chromas> they're fancier than notepad
[20:11:29] <SemperOSS> Which was an absolute nightmare if you wanted anything but the most editing ability.
[20:11:55] <chromas> I want maximum editing
[20:13:20] <SemperOSS> s/most/most BASIC (pun intended)/
[20:13:22] <exec> <SemperOSS> Which was an absolute nightmare if you wanted anything but the most BASIC (pun intended) editing ability.
[20:17:15] <SemperOSS> I remember editing on a Sinclair QL, were insert mode (I think) was so slow that you could easily overtake the computer and type for several minutes, which would take the computer like half an hour to catch up with. It did not lose any keystrokes, though
[20:17:28] <SemperOSS> s/were/where/
[20:17:29] <exec> <SemperOSS> I remember editing on a Sinclair QL, where insert mode (I think) was so slow that you could easily overtake the computer and type for several minutes, which would take the computer like half an hour to catch up with. It did not lose any keystrokes, though
[20:21:38] <Bytram> chromas: https://en.wikipedia.org
[20:21:39] <upstart> ^ 03Decimal time - Wikipedia
[20:22:15] <Bytram> https://www.telegraph.co.uk
[20:22:16] <upstart> ^ 03Schools are removing analogue clocks from exam halls as teenagers 'cannot tell the time'
[20:22:50] <chromas> ah, the firefox approach
[20:23:01] <chromas> Hide the rss, then announce nobody uses rss
[20:23:15] <chromas> hide the themes, remove themes because nobody uses them
[20:27:10] -!- mechanicjay [mechanicjay!~jhowe@452-54-01-454.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #Soylent
[20:27:10] -!- mechanicjay has quit [Changing host]
[20:27:10] -!- mechanicjay [mechanicjay!~jhowe@Soylent/Staff/Sysop/mechanicjay] has joined #Soylent
[20:27:10] -!- mode/#Soylent [+v mechanicjay] by Aphrodite
[20:31:22] <Bytram> mechanicjay: o/
[20:32:07] <Bytram> last reference I'll post wrt clocks and "IIII" https://mentalfloss.com
[20:32:08] <upstart> ^ 03Why Do Some Clocks Use Roman Numeral IIII?
[20:57:39] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft Blacklists Dozens of New File Extensions in Outlook - https://sylnt.us - check-that-you-don't-need-them
[21:00:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> edit.com? what luxury! i've had to use "copy con somefile.bla" more times than i care to count. ancient dos gambling boxes that were so locked down they didn't have edit.com or a hell of a lot of other things, including a floppy drive.
[21:00:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> smoke break
[21:00:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> nicotine++
[21:00:50] <Bender> karma - nicotine: 733
[21:01:07] <chromas> but did you ever copy con con?
[21:06:10] <Bytram> maybe con carne?
[21:06:39] <Bytram> but, yeah, I did a buncha: copy CON: file.txt too
[21:07:52] <Bytram> and, after finding out I mistyped something... using sed to edit a file after copying it to a temp file and sending the result back over the original file.
[21:07:59] <Bytram> =g unix here document
[21:08:00] <upstart> http://tldp.org - Here Documents
[21:12:41] <Bytram> okay, time for me to get myself going. Have a great day everyone!
[21:18:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> sed didn't come with dos. i hadda just start over if i made a single typo.
[21:19:11] <Bytram> Yeah, I changed venue... was thinking of having to telnet to a box long ago which was missing most of my favorite tools; fell back on what i knew would work.
[22:33:29] -!- Web_weasel has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
[23:11:58] <chromas> tar--
[23:11:58] <Bender> karma - tar: -1
[23:12:25] <chromas> I do tar xf muhfile and it shows a bunch of File Exists errors
[23:12:34] <chromas> but they don't exists. The directory's not even there
[23:13:04] <chromas> If I do it with sudo (there are root-owned files inside) then no errors, but still, it doesn't actually write the files out anywhere
[23:15:55] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - NASA Wants to Send Nuclear Rockets to the Moon and Mars - https://sylnt.us - whoosh-glow
[23:15:59] <chromas> oh, what a fpos. it recreated the entire dir tree from /