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[00:13:40] <chromas> Ask Soylent: If I put up a mail server at home for fun, does it really matter that I have a 'residential' IP, as far as gmail et cetera are concerned, or is that just a myth?
[00:14:26] <FatPhil> chromas: we've got away with it here at asdf.org
[00:15:13] <FatPhil> fuckin hassle when the router reboots, I always get a new IP address, but it takes a few minutes to propagate DNS from Gandi.
[00:15:34] <chromas> Cool. Didn't wanna waste $12 bucks on a domain to test it
[00:16:00] <chromas> an internet says my ip's on a blocklist though. fpos
[00:16:22] <chromas> I rarely get a new ip, unless the power goes out or something where lots of people come back on at once
[00:17:18] <FatPhil> we have had a few issues occasionally, but we complained to someone, and something happened!
[00:17:40] <FatPhil> having said that, we've changed nominal ISP (buy-up) in the last year or so.
[00:17:51] <chromas> I see there's not much on the site. Oh wait, was that just an example domain?
[00:18:04] <FatPhil> nope, that's my domain. suck it
[00:18:49] <chromas> well your page has an errant </font> tag
[00:18:52] <FatPhil> try again
[00:19:13] <chromas> noice
[00:19:44] <chromas> are there secret pages hosted or is it all email and stuff?
[00:19:51] <chromas> I guess that's none o' my business
[00:20:45] <chromas> https://www.washingtonpost.com
[00:20:46] <upstart> ^ 03Meet the queer, nonbinary, pansexual characters of the video game ‘Borderlands 3’ - The Washington Post ( https://beta.washingtonpost.com )
[00:21:30] <FatPhil> waaat? who put fonts there?!?!?
[00:22:02] <FatPhil> it's a pisstake page. was written decades ago when the internet was new
[00:22:05] <chromas> firefox is complaining about tag nesting, although I don't see any actual problems with it
[00:22:08] <chromas> ah
[00:22:21] <chromas> waterfox
[00:22:45] <chromas> that's a pretty rad domain though
[00:23:02] <chromas> is there an hjkl tld though?
[00:23:09] <FatPhil> I didn't actually write it, a mate of mine did, and he sold me the domain a decade ago - for a crate of beer, the universal currency
[00:23:39] <chromas> hehe, I thought it was real
[00:23:57] <FatPhil> there was a wikipedia page on it at one point
[00:24:03] <chromas> was the logo made with gimp?
[00:24:10] <FatPhil> I think so
[00:24:40] <FatPhil> we also use it for our business website: http://asdf.ee
[00:25:07] <FatPhil> we paid the artist a crate of beer for the rights to use it commercially.
[00:25:21] <FatPhil> I love commerce in finland!
[00:25:43] <chromas> it's got a badass lens flare in there. He could be making Michael Bay money
[00:26:06] <chromas> asdf.jj
[00:27:00] <FatPhil> it may be a rad domain, but it gets 50000 spam mail attempts per day
[00:27:27] <FatPhil> for some reason people just type asdf at the prompts for real email addresses
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[00:28:15] <chromas> weird, random sudden infinite loop in the bot after a while
[00:28:37] <chromas> At least you have a good source of filter-training material
[00:30:27] <FatPhil> postfix rejects about 99.9% of them just with play-nice rules (e.g. real domains, real recipients)
[00:30:56] <FatPhil> I spam myself more than anyone else, as I have bots that mail me their results that are mostly boring
[00:32:41] <chromas> lame
[00:32:47] <chromas> can't even download jesuspizza
[00:32:51] <chromas> but now I want pizza
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[01:43:55] <AzumaHazuki> nice loud thunderstorm outside <3
[01:44:12] <AzumaHazuki> the wind blew all day long, too. you could say this is thunder force
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[01:57:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - World's First Metal 3-D-printed Bridge Enters Test Phase - http://sylnt.us - vandalism-proof-sensors?-Good-luck-with-that!
[02:40:41] <Bytram> ~time x
[02:40:42] <exec> location not found - UTC timestamp: Saturday, 14 September 2019, 2:40 am
[02:41:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, timex
[02:41:34] <Bytram> It took you *this* long to notice that?
[02:41:56] * TheMightyBuzzard is slow
[02:44:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> really, my brain's extremely compartmentalized based on context. which is why i like puns and am shitty at making them.
[02:51:39] <Bytram> np!
[02:52:06] <Bytram> My brain naturally spiders, especially with words which are similar-sounding.
[02:52:50] <Bytram> teamwork++
[02:52:50] <Bender> karma - teamwork: 46
[03:12:47] * TheMightyBuzzard yawns
[03:12:47] * MrPlow flips a Skittle into TheMightyBuzzard's gaping mouth
[03:48:50] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Water Interests Are Fighting California's Bid To Block Trump's Environmental Rollbacks - http://sylnt.us - water-water-everywhere...
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[05:17:53] <Sulla> well, my house is held up by magic and a conspicuous lack of 2x4s
[05:18:38] <Sulla> https://ibb.co
[05:18:39] <upstart> ^ 03IMG-20190913-2216491
[05:19:33] <Sulla> Seven foot span. Beam only covers about six of it. the only 2x4 involved directly under it is on the far side of the picture.
[05:19:39] <Sulla> i dont know how to proceed
[05:44:40] <inz> Duct tape?
[05:47:23] <Sulla> https://ibb.co
[05:47:23] <upstart> ^ 03IMG-20190913-2236414
[05:48:13] <Sulla> the center thing you see is 1x4s around a hollow hole
[06:06:35] <chromas> no way
[06:06:41] <chromas> it's got bags of sand or something
[06:06:47] <chromas> so not hollow ;)
[06:06:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Google Chrome 77 Breaks Login Pages on Netgear Devices - http://sylnt.us - what-doesn't-kill-you...
[06:07:00] <chromas> or is it heroin?
[06:20:47] <Sulla> never done drugs before but considering it now
[06:21:48] <Sulla> Just discovered one of our towns leading contractors owes the cigar shop owner a favor, and he owes me a favor. So he is gonna tell the guy to come out and let me know what to do
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[09:00:33] <FatPhil> I think summer's over. Fricken hailstorms now. (And yes, I know you can get hail in mid-summer, but there's been none of the other summer attributes for a week.)
[09:01:11] <FatPhil> having to shout at my g/f to be heard even though she's only a few meters away.
[09:17:12] <inz> Sunny up here on the north side of the bay
[09:17:43] <inz> Although we do get some winds from the weak remnants of Dorian
[09:20:06] <FatPhil> near the equinox, the most noticeable change is the nights getting shorter quicker, it's several minutes change a day - half an hour in a week!
[09:20:47] <FatPhil> We have good open meteorological data here, I plan on hunting out what our August was like - it seemed like one of the wettest months I ever remember.
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[16:00:40] <Ethanol-fueled> The local bar is now stocking COLT 45
[16:00:46] <Ethanol-fueled> Goddamn that's a good beer.
[16:01:27] <Ethanol-fueled> It's a Jewish bar though. I've been in plenty of arguments with Mossad, Unit 8200, and Sayanim
[16:02:11] <Ethanol-fueled> They saw me coding once and asked me to join their "social media" outfit, almost forcefully. I told them "no" and I also told them that Jerry Seinfeld sucks.
[16:02:47] <Ethanol-fueled> The higher-ranking Jews grit their teeth everytime they walk in and see me there.
[16:03:02] <Ethanol-fueled> But I'm a good customer and no Jew will turn down a good customer.
[16:03:21] <Ethanol-fueled> Pity my money's probaby going straight to the IDF and otherwise subverting America.
[16:03:44] <Sulla> colt 45?
[16:04:29] <Ethanol-fueled> https://en.wikipedia.org(malt_liquor)
[16:04:30] <upstart> ^ 03Colt 45 (malt liquor) - Wikipedia
[16:05:09] <Ethanol-fueled> " The label was designed with a kicking horse and horseshoe, a reference to its "extra kick" compared to competing brands. "
[16:05:17] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahah, goddamn I love America
[16:05:34] <Sulla> what ever happened to world peace through big bite hotdogs
[16:06:48] <Ethanol-fueled> Those are good too.
[16:07:39] <Ethanol-fueled> But peace cannot come yet. Trump is still working his magic.
[16:07:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> ~gday Ethanol-fueled
[16:08:01] * exec slowly evolves a thingy of finger steaks from Ethanol-fueled
[16:08:08] <Ethanol-fueled> wuddup homie
[16:08:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> eh, been swinging a wrecking bar
[16:08:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> considering a nap now.
[16:08:35] <Sulla> tmb
[16:08:38] <Sulla> before you nap
[16:08:42] <Ethanol-fueled> Man, that's Mexican style work right there.
[16:08:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> no mexicans to hire in TN
[16:08:55] <Sulla> look at those pics i posted and boomer me up an opinion on how to fix
[16:09:05] <Ethanol-fueled> Shit Id move there if they had an electronics industry
[16:09:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> nobody here wants to work, so they all got good jobs.
[16:09:21] <Ethanol-fueled> But word on the street is that the bigger cities there are getting hipsterfied
[16:09:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> Sulla, what pics?
[16:09:38] <Ethanol-fueled> I don't wanna escape California only to get stuck in Leftist bullshit somewhere else.
[16:09:51] <Sulla> one sec
[16:10:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> nashville and parts easy maybe, memphis would make you sad and get you shot a whole bunch
[16:10:19] <Sulla> https://ibb.co
[16:10:20] <upstart> ^ 03IMG-20190914-0841529
[16:10:58] <Ethanol-fueled> Hahahah, damn sulla, that's what happens when you hire Mexicans to do your remodeling
[16:11:12] <Ethanol-fueled> Fucking nails in the drywall and shit
[16:11:23] <TheMightyBuzzard> pull out the sheetrock that's being a pain, cut pieces to fit, screw em in, tape and bed, paint
[16:11:48] <Sulla> more of lack of a beam
[16:11:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> align the seams on studs/top plates or you'll regret it
[16:11:56] <Sulla> that center thing is empty
[16:12:17] <Sulla> there is nothing holding up the ceiling for this span
[16:12:26] <TheMightyBuzzard> it a load bearing wall?
[16:13:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> looks like it oughta be
[16:13:14] <Sulla> yeah, supports the rafters for the room
[16:14:00] <Ethanol-fueled> Paint that shit a different color. Powder blue is so '50's. '50's had awesome cars, not so awesome interior design
[16:14:14] <Ethanol-fueled> It should be White, the color of real men.
[16:14:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> well hell. rip wall out and rebuild it then. 4x4 corner posts. big ole beam up top.
[16:14:41] <Sulla> think im gonna. can only fit a 4x10 so i hope that will be enough
[16:14:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ethanol-fueled, thas the kitchen. men don't get a say on kitchen colors.
[16:15:01] <Ethanol-fueled> Fair enough buzz
[16:15:32] <Sulla> colors i dont care about
[16:15:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> 4x10 should be peachy. even if you go with a couple 2x10s glued n screwed together.
[16:15:50] <Sulla> okay
[16:16:10] <Sulla> annoying because i wanted to expand door size
[16:16:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> scratch the colors thing. i get a big say in our church kitchen colors since the oldest female in the house is 12.
[16:16:42] <Sulla> and there is a wire up there too i gotta trace
[16:16:49] <Sulla> so dont know if can do beam
[16:16:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> like we got a 9' long, three bay, sloped counters stainless sink for the downstairs kitchen.
[16:16:56] <Sulla> nice
[16:17:04] <Sulla> so, if i wanted to add a new 4x4 post
[16:17:06] <Ethanol-fueled> Painting any room of your house other than some variant of white or off-white is for edgy teenagers
[16:17:07] <TheMightyBuzzard> you can, just may have to rewire too.
[16:17:10] <Sulla> do i need to go to the foundation?
[16:17:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> slab or on blocks?
[16:17:52] <Sulla> slab
[16:17:59] <Ethanol-fueled> If you need some color but some wood or stone or brick up in that bitch.
[16:18:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ethanol-fueled, we're going dark wood for walls eventually. paint's for sissies and people who like to tape and bed.
[16:18:49] <Sulla> wood is best walls. f paint
[16:19:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> if going to the slab is a pain, don't. standing them on subflooring would be fine.
[16:19:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> not on flooring flooring though.
[16:19:19] <Sulla> yeah that sounds good
[16:19:29] <Ethanol-fueled> hehehe
[16:19:45] <Sulla> ill probably put a new support over both existing doors, then do another for a pocket fridge like the wife wants
[16:19:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> wherever the studs are now, just go 2x4 instead of 4x4 at doorways and other wall ends.
[16:19:58] <Sulla> lol >studs now
[16:20:06] <Sulla> but yeah ill do that
[16:20:22] <Sulla> i dont know whats holdin this up
[16:20:27] <Sulla> only thing under it is 1x4s
[16:20:34] <Sulla> one side has a stud
[16:21:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> Ethanol-fueled, we got a big fuckin library going in. hardwood floor and dark wood paneling. shelves built into the walls. vaulted ceiling.
[16:21:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> gonna go full on old english on it.
[16:21:21] <Sulla> thats gonna be awesome
[16:22:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> already framed but it's low on the list right now cause somewhere to sleep, cook, and shit/shower/not shave take precedence
[16:22:41] <Sulla> makes sense. well im afk. cigar shop owner says he has a contractor that owes him a favor, and he's callin it in
[16:22:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> cool
[16:22:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> not doing work > doing work
[16:23:03] <Ethanol-fueled> Damn buzzard that gives me a hardon
[16:23:22] <Ethanol-fueled> Add a fireplace and I'd bust a nut in my pants right now
[16:23:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> gonna have a maintainance hall downstairs too. wire pull points, plumbing, all the shit you need to get to but would be a pain if it were in walls.
[16:23:53] <Ethanol-fueled> Good place for a cherry desk with an antique globe on it
[16:24:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> figure we can do projecty stuff like electronics, wood carving, yadda yadda yadda in it too.
[16:24:53] <Ethanol-fueled> Gotta have a man cave where you can make a mess
[16:25:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm thinking about building us a nice long oak library table
[16:25:26] <Ethanol-fueled> hell yeah oak is hard as fuck
[16:25:32] <TheMightyBuzzard> it's about 40' long and 8' wide
[16:25:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> the hall not the table
[16:25:44] <chopchop1> omg its nitro powah
[16:26:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> library's about 20' long and 10-12' wide
[16:26:40] <TheMightyBuzzard> 25' or so tall at the peak
[16:28:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> right now it's just studs going floor to ceiling though. we'll start wiring it after we get bedrooms and bathrooms and shit done.
[16:28:37] * TheMightyBuzzard insisted on a stainless sink with at least two bays you could wash a fucking huge pot in
[16:29:10] <Ethanol-fueled> Hell yeah
[16:29:13] <TheMightyBuzzard> got three instead and like 3.5' sides that slope down into the sinks so you can just rinse them off and call it a day
[16:29:32] <Ethanol-fueled> Shit man
[16:30:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> old restaurant shit. got it on the cheap from one that closed down.
[16:30:36] <Ethanol-fueled> Nice. Anthony Bourdain mentioned that in his book, that's the best way to get good kitchen shit on the cheap
[16:31:00] <TheMightyBuzzard> upstairs kitchen is gonna be chick-friendly in case we wanna sell it later but downstairs is gonna be stainless and easy to clean and work in.
[16:31:29] <Ethanol-fueled> Upstairs kitchen?
[16:31:49] <Ethanol-fueled> Shit man, I thought upstairs living rooms that they're building into all the mcmansions nowadays was ludicrous
[16:32:04] <TheMightyBuzzard> yeah, we're staying downstairs until we can get the ground floor all done up. were already classrooms down there we didn't have to build, just reframe.
[16:32:11] <Ethanol-fueled> (They build them so the parents can put a TV up there and stash the kids up there )
[16:32:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> downstairs is a full 2400 or so ft^2 basement
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[16:34:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> livingroom is going to be 30' long and 12' wide but open to the hall which is another 8' wide
[16:35:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> tv over dis side, xbox over dat side, we can watch die hard while the kids is playin whatever.
[16:35:51] <Ethanol-fueled> Where are the billiards table and dart board gonna go?
[16:36:01] <Ethanol-fueled> And the wet bar?
[16:36:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> bar's up in the livingroom
[16:36:15] <Ethanol-fueled> hahah
[16:36:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> not a big one but enough to hold our meager booze stash and mix some drinks up at.
[16:37:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> maybe for guys long for when we feel like sitting at the bar
[16:37:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> four
[16:37:13] <Ethanol-fueled> Is it one of those small bars that are recessed into the wall?
[16:37:21] <TheMightyBuzzard> dunno, ain't built it yet
[16:37:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> i was thinking a short length cheers bar
[16:37:45] <Ethanol-fueled> One of my buddies' parents live in a place that does have a full legit bar in the living room
[16:38:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> they're pretty easy to make if you got enough clamps
[16:39:34] <Ethanol-fueled> Allright, fellas, gonna bail. The booze is kicking in and I want to listen to the theme song of Cheers now, super comfy
[16:39:45] <Ethanol-fueled> Possibly shitposting to commence soon.
[16:39:50] <Ethanol-fueled> Have a nice day fellas.
[16:40:22] <TheMightyBuzzard> laters
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[16:41:19] <Bytram> and /me needs to head to work after spending 4 hours on some work-related stuff; won't be home for another 11 hrs or so.
[16:41:30] <Bytram> hope you all have a great day!
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[16:55:16] <Exaeta> https://soylentnews.org
[16:55:17] <upstart> ^ 03SoylentNews Comments | The Judicial Scam ( https://soylentnews.org )
[16:55:38] <Exaeta> He just admitted to mod bombing me in a fucking logged in comment.
[16:56:02] <Exaeta> TheMightyBuzzard: If that isn't enough for a mod ban than what is?
[16:56:41] <Exaeta> He should really just be banned from the site.
[16:58:11] <Exaeta> Is there a point where constant trolling reaches the point of being spam? He is contributing nothing to the discussion and just harassing me.
[16:58:42] <Exaeta> I think it counts as spam, but that's just me.
[16:59:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> Exaeta, doesn't matter what he admits. you haven't been mod bombed in the last three days by anyone.
[16:59:39] <Exaeta> So your definition of mod bombing is unacceptable, basically.
[17:00:03] <Exaeta> It's targeted harassment, you know this, yet do nothing.
[17:00:33] <Exaeta> So, I will also mod down aristicraus, 4 times per day is the limit right?
[17:00:35] <TheMightyBuzzard> you haven't had three downmods in the past three days. if less than once a day is unacceptable to you, you need to look into becoming a hermit because you're not going to enjoy life around other people.
[17:01:30] <Exaeta> You're basically saying since I don't post often enough the mod bombing is irrelevant
[17:01:50] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm saying since you don't get downmodded even once a day, you're not getting mod bombed.
[17:02:08] <Exaeta> I don't normally even post comments once a day...
[17:02:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> and you're down a whopping four points from max karma. that is not indicative of targeted harassment.
[17:03:10] <Exaeta> He just admitted it...
[17:03:14] <Exaeta> logged in
[17:03:20] <TheMightyBuzzard> so? he lied.
[17:03:20] <Exaeta> mentioing me by name
[17:03:39] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm looking at your comments right now and most of them haven't been moderated at all.
[17:04:02] <Exaeta> Then call it targeted trolling
[17:04:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> trolling it most certainly is but trolling is allowed.
[17:04:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> seriously, man, you're getting way overworked by ari trying to wind you up.
[17:07:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> but yes, four a day is the limit. knock yourself out if you feel the need to get your vendetta on. keep in mind ari will take it in stride though. he gets downmodded all the time.
[17:16:33] * TheMightyBuzzard wanders off for a couple hours of pillow inspection
[17:16:35] <Exaeta> I don't see why such a bright line rule is used. It would be better just to require evidence of intent.
[17:17:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> because rule of man is the worst possible way to do things. arbitrary rules are fair, people are not.
[17:20:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> seriously though, nap time for buzzards
[17:45:05] <Deucalion> New cert created and in place - web interface works ok with it. Just going to test irc client connection
[17:46:49] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Godzilla, the Genesis - http://sylnt.us - so-it-begins
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[19:52:08] <chromas> We should get rid of all downmods and replace upmod labels with smiley glyphs
[19:53:11] <chromas> wtf
[19:53:35] <chromas> so when it's been awhile, if I mouseover a tab in firewaterfox, it reloads the little tab icons from the server
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[20:16:48] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Microsoft's Fix for CPU-Hogging Windows Bug Wrecks Desktop Search - http://sylnt.us - business-as-usual
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