#Soylent | Logs for 2019-09-05
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[00:47:20] <AzumaHazuki> =submit https://wagingnonviolence.org from the ideologues-fear-mockery dept
[00:47:22] <upstart> Submitting "Why Nazis are so afraid of these clowns"...
[00:47:41] <AzumaHazuki> :) looks like the one thing ideologues can't stand is mockery. in this case, getting literally clowned on
[00:47:44] <upstart> ✓ Sub-ccess! "Why Nazis are So Afraid of These Clowns" (1 paragraphs) -> https://soylentnews.org
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[01:17:56] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Cannabis May Hold Promise To Treat PTSD But Evidence Lags Behind Use - http://sylnt.us
[02:06:14] <AzumaHazuki> i would be willing to give this a try. my one experience with marijuana made me extremely unmotivated, and also led me to consume about 800kcal of potato chips at one sitting
[02:06:49] <AzumaHazuki> ...to be fair, they were the best motherloving potato chips i'd ever had, but this doesn't seem like a practical or healthy treatment
[02:36:38] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - US Experts Propose Having AI Control Nuclear Weapons - http://sylnt.us - stop-the-world-I-want-to-get-off
[03:41:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> AzumaHazuki, standard pot reaction unless you're joe rogan. i'd kinda hate to see him if he were any more motivated.
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[04:48:46] <LCSulla> bought a new sawzall and finished ripping out my wall. now i can relax, drink, watch the tv, AND enjoy air conditioning
[04:54:17] <chromas> Was the wall cockblocking the AC?
[05:00:21] <LCSulla> yeah
[05:00:39] <LCSulla> the other day it was really hot so i decided enough was enough
[05:00:51] <LCSulla> took out half the wall, then my sawzall failed
[05:00:54] <LCSulla> rage
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[06:23:22] <SoyCow8299> aristarrchus
[06:23:46] <LCSulla> okay
[06:23:55] <LCSulla> who is censoring me
[06:24:10] <LCSulla> i submitted an article on the US death glider being sighted over k falls
[06:24:14] <LCSulla> why is it not in the que
[06:24:35] <chromas> The feds are coming for you
[06:24:41] <chromas> They know you know they know you know
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[06:26:03] <LCSulla> ha thats a joke because i know they know that i know so my knowledge is safe
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[06:27:00] <LCSulla> i think im finally ready to post in arik's drunk posting JE
[06:27:04] <LCSulla> but its gone?
[06:27:11] <LCSulla> endless censorship
[06:27:54] <chromas> Watch yose'f. Soon you might discover you been earased as well
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[06:28:28] <LCSulla> thems fightin words
[06:28:38] <chromas> Watch out for deleted memories too. You know what happens if your brain tries to dereference a null memory pointer?
[06:29:04] <LCSulla> https://en.m.wikipedia.org
[06:29:05] <upstart> ^ 03Fighting words - Wikipedia
[06:29:49] <LCSulla> i spend a lot of time trying to repress/delete memories, so not concerned
[06:30:10] <LCSulla> like that time you said something to your dad that might have hurt his feelings, so you have to repress it forever
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[06:31:55] <chromas> Seems like Greece doesn't have very good internet tonight
[06:34:45] <LCSulla> i keep seeing articles/posts about how the EU is better than the US
[06:34:52] <LCSulla> maybe is just propaganda
[06:35:11] <chromas> They're probably better at stabbings and stuff
[06:35:16] <LCSulla> maybe we just didnt have good so he left
[06:35:27] <chromas> I bet they have more tv loicense dodgers though
[06:35:31] <LCSulla> socrates was a shiester who only argued to eat his hosts food
[06:36:00] <LCSulla> oi where is your sn irc liocense
[06:37:13] <LCSulla> my facorite translation of the republic has "your a shiester socrates"
[06:57:53] <LCSulla> seriously though. who was it that posted the drunk posting je
[06:58:24] <LCSulla> wasnt it arik?
[07:00:29] <chromas> Your comment from awhile back mentions AK
[07:00:36] * chromas doesn't remember who that is
[07:01:16] <chromas> Well, regular Sulla. I guess you could be an imposter
[07:03:52] <LCSulla> oh damn maybe i am
[07:04:31] <LCSulla> ak is athanasiuskirsher
[07:05:05] <chromas> Have you ever noticed that clicking on a journal entry in the sidebar doesn't actually go to the entry? Kinda gay
[07:05:27] <chromas> I should make a bug request
[07:06:16] <LCSulla> well it goes to the persons list of entries
[07:06:22] <LCSulla> isnt that a feature not a bug?
[07:06:29] <LCSulla> annoying but sometimes useful
[07:06:33] <chromas> Yeah. I just clicked his latest entry. I didn't read it though. Wall of text. Straight to the comments
[07:06:42] <LCSulla> people like takyon post so many JEs
[07:06:48] <chromas> I dunno. What if there are two entries by the same person? Two links to the same page
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[07:06:56] <LCSulla> its hard to keep up unless that link just takes to person
[07:07:07] <LCSulla> im okay with that
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[07:10:00] <chromas> Did irccloud have a burp?
[07:11:50] <LCSulla> dunno
[07:12:16] <LCSulla> well wife is beconing me so im off to bed. cya dude
[07:12:23] <chromas> g'noight
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[07:35:33] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Allowlist, Not Whitelist. Blocklist, Not Blacklist. Microsoft Lops Off Offensive Words - http://sylnt.us - blacklisting-"blacklist"
[07:36:05] <chromas> herpity derp
[07:36:19] <chromas> What's wrong with African Americanlist?
[07:36:37] <chromas> and for the opposite, of course, racistlist
[07:39:45] <chromas> Still reading the comments on that AK journal entry
[07:39:52] <chromas> We need animated gif mods
[07:40:07] <chromas> like -0, jerkoff_hand_motion.gif
[08:12:07] <LCSulla> animated gif mods?
[08:12:25] <LCSulla> ill allow it
[08:14:08] <chromas> Good idea
[08:14:27] <chromas> we need a Mills Lane from Celebrity Deathmatch gif too
[08:15:10] <LCSulla> sounds legit
[08:15:28] <LCSulla> can i get a meetingadjorned.gif as well. the judge with the shotgun
[08:17:02] <chromas> I don't know that one
[08:17:40] <LCSulla> http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com
[08:17:55] <LCSulla> took a bit to find. hard to drunk type
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[10:45:24] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Natural Ways of Cooling Cities - http://sylnt.us
[10:51:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> coffee++
[10:51:41] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4944
[10:51:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> and also...
[10:52:02] * TheMightyBuzzard buggers off to fish a shiny new river
[11:04:06] <Bytram> coffee++
[11:04:07] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4945
[11:04:15] <Bytram> ~gday TheMightyBuzzard
[11:04:17] * exec cromulently straps a tumbleweed of key/value pairs on TheMightyBuzzard
[11:04:38] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Good luck with your fishing!
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[12:17:17] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Squirrels Listen in to Birds' Conversations as Signal of Safety - http://sylnt.us - squirrel!
[13:19:46] <Teckla> Weied
[13:19:51] <Teckla> Mughal. Haha
[13:20:06] <Teckla> Grrr. Sorry folks. Smartphone keyboard.
[13:20:46] <Teckla> I was going to ask: does SN have a feature to automagically expand ALL comments (for all threads)?
[13:35:48] <Teckla> I find that it's hard for my stupid fingers to accurately expand comments on my smartphone keyboard. I keep mis-tapping.
[13:35:59] <Teckla> Purely my own incompetence. :\
[13:36:39] <Teckla> coffee++
[13:36:39] <Bender> karma - coffee: 4946
[13:45:22] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Real-Time Maps Warn Hong Kong Protesters of Water Cannons and Riot Police - http://sylnt.us - cats-and-mice-and-maps-oh-my!
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[16:26:00] <Sulla> Teckla - should have used a blackberry, based superior keyboard
[16:56:47] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Trump's 15 Percent Tariff on Chinese Goods Kicks in - http://sylnt.us - start-counting-the-pennies,-er,-yen
[18:15:54] <chromas> yennies
[18:21:45] <boru> Touchscreens annoy the shit out of me, as well. I've got a samsung note; the stylus and cursive handwriting input sure have made them a lot more bearable.
[18:22:08] <boru> I do miss having a slide-out hw kb, though.
[18:22:26] <boru> Do they even make phones with those anymore?
[18:26:10] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - 'Deepfake' App Causes Fraud And Privacy Fears In China - http://sylnt.us - always-strong-on-peoples-rights
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[18:50:31] <Sulla> boru you can still get the keyone, keytwo, or priv
[18:56:38] <boru> Hmm, I'll check those out. Thanks man.
[19:34:16] <Sulla> I have had a ton of privs, and overall easily repairable
[19:35:02] <Sulla> if you like to flick it open aggressively you can cause damage over time to the spring because you can wear down the lock and it can disconnect
[19:36:17] <Sulla> I caused some damage by hitting a spider on a wall with it flicked open, but was easily fixable. I broke a screen by dropping it onto ceremic dust from 2in, but i have also dropped it (countless times) 4-6ft into concrete with no issues
[19:36:37] <Sulla> privs are like 100 on ebay as well
[19:36:40] <boru> I'm sad about the death of POTS. I still talk to some bods at home prodominantly by HF, but I've been kitting out some less-tech-savvy relatives with SIP via a gateway I set up for them.
[19:37:05] <Sulla> Acronims that i dont know
[19:37:42] <boru> Iff ever I win the euromillions, I think I'll set out on designing some comms hw that's free of corporate scum like {google,apple,microsoft,}.
[19:37:54] <boru> POTS == Plain Old Telephone Service
[19:38:18] <boru> HF == High Frequency (Radio frequency)
[19:38:38] <boru> SIP == Session Initiation Protocol
[19:47:21] <boru> That said, what the world needs is open modem fw. With the likes of qualcomm and other morally bankrupt companies out there shipping backdoored fw, even with an open design, a CotS modem is flawed out of the box.
[19:48:16] <chromas> qualcomm--
[19:48:16] <Bender> karma - qualcomm: -2
[19:48:38] <boru> I'll second that.
[19:48:40] <boru> qualcomm--
[19:48:41] <Bender> karma - qualcomm: -3
[19:49:17] <boru> Their legal division is larger than their engineering division.
[19:50:07] <boru> Did you know that they set aside a part of their budget for antitrust lawsuits as a part of doing business anually.
[19:50:58] <chromas> boru: s/u//5
[19:51:41] <chromas> Weren't they the ones responsible for cmda2000?
[19:51:48] <boru> That would produce "Did yo5 .*$"
[19:52:09] <boru> Work on your regexp, chromas.
[19:52:20] <chromas> Looks good to me
[19:52:28] <boru> I don't get it.
[19:52:38] <boru> Oh, nevermind.
[19:52:50] <boru> I've had enough whiskey to misread regexp.
[19:52:57] * boru silly.
[19:54:35] <chromas> I wonder if moving spam to the spam folder in HoTMaiL using an imap client counts as marking it spam
[19:54:57] <boru> Probably not. The 'spam' rules will be client side.
[19:55:29] <boru> You'd have to hook their API to do that, I'd imagine.
[19:56:04] <chromas> I wonder if their imap interface supports that at all. I dunno much about imap, but it can have support for server-side filters right?
[19:56:10] <chromas> but being ms, they probably don't support it
[19:56:21] <boru> I can't imagine anyone using hotmail for anything other than throwaway addys, so why do you care?
[19:56:35] <chromas> I want the inbox to be empty
[19:56:47] <boru> It can, but when have you ever known MS to follow standards?
[19:57:02] <chromas> yes
[19:57:06] <chromas> wait a minute. no
[19:57:07] <boru> select all unread -> delete
[19:57:18] <Bender> [SoylentNews] - Mars Mission Readies Tiny Chopper for Red Planet Flight - http://sylnt.us - martians-close-down-2-airports-in-drone-scare
[19:57:25] <boru> They don't even follow their own standards.
[19:58:05] <chromas> oh I know. I use the ms account for the upstart bot
[19:58:16] <chromas> it gets all the declined subs emails
[19:58:59] <boru> You could probably set the filter up with the MS API and then just download the directory.
[19:59:00] <chromas> and my non-banned epic games account
[19:59:22] <boru> Pft, who needs an epic games account since they canned UT4.
[19:59:43] <chromas> I dunno. I get the free games and then don't play them
[20:00:30] <chromas> Kmail's a pretty good email client when it's not being retarded
[20:02:30] * boru scoffs
[20:03:19] <chromas> Better than pine. #fite me
[20:03:31] <chromas> or emacs or whatever
[20:03:52] <boru> I'm in the whatever set; I use mutt.
[20:04:00] <chromas> Are web browsers emacs from a different starting point?
[20:04:29] <boru> I don't know. emacs is for infant children.
[20:05:39] <boru> Real Men™ use notepad.exe
[20:06:06] <chromas> Hah! Now who's the gui wuss? Should be using edit.com
[20:06:29] <boru> I wasn't being serious, you bellend.
[20:06:51] <chromas> I was just thinking about the old adage about firefox having all the features except a good text editor
[20:07:14] <boru> Firefox is just getting worse and worse. I'm in dire need of a replacement.
[20:07:30] <chromas> Nothin' wrong with bellends. those are the widest parts of the bell!
[20:07:43] <boru> Is that your favourite part?
[20:07:48] <chromas> wide = hd
[20:08:16] <chromas> although that's old now. need to see my bells in 8k
[20:08:20] <boru> You can't asign to 'wide'; it's an integer literal.
[20:08:33] <boru> Is there an 8k now?
[20:08:49] <chromas> the future is now, old man
[20:09:01] * boru balks
[20:09:21] <chromas> that reminds me. I haven't tried edge on linux in a few days
[20:09:32] <boru> JFC.
[20:13:40] <chromas> hm, the canary version won't even start
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[20:14:01] <chromas> at least the beta would load enough to crash on soylentnews.org
[20:16:11] <boru> The only question I have is: why?
[20:17:16] <chromas> that sounds like opendesktop speak to me
[20:17:30] <boru> How dare you.
[20:17:36] <chromas> "Why would you want to do that? Feature deleted!"
[20:17:49] <chromas> or wontfix
[20:18:16] <chromas> well if I can run edge on linux then I can get bonus bing points without windows
[20:18:41] <boru> Is that actually a thing, or are you just going all out?
[20:18:52] <chromas> bing points? real thing
[20:19:03] <boru> Sweet chocolate christ.
[20:19:25] <chromas> you get points for searching with bing, which can be redeemed for amazon or other goft codes
[20:20:03] <chromas> also, bing's image search is better than google's
[20:20:41] <boru> Well, that's true. Google seem to have some sort of very politically motivated filtering in place.
[20:20:48] <chromas> there were articles awhile back about how terrible bing is for not censoring search results enough
[20:20:55] <boru> Bing image search is most certainly better.
[20:20:56] <boru> Yeah.
[20:20:59] <chromas> though it was like cp and stuff
[20:21:28] <chromas> and their video search is nice. can play most videos right from the results page
[20:21:46] <boru> CP as in child pornography?
[20:21:56] <chromas> yeah
[20:22:15] <boru> How on Earth do people uncover that...
[20:22:25] <chromas> supposedly it was too easy to end up with pictures of kids, and the search suggestions would sometimes steer you that way, was the claim
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[20:22:57] <boru> Was that a legitimate claim, or was it the likes of google poisoning the well?
[20:23:14] <boru> Sounds like something google would do.
[20:23:23] <boru> Or some political group afiliated with google.
[20:23:52] <chromas> well I have seen teengalleries/primejailbait photos pop into the results a lot, but it's nonnude so it's okay I guess
[20:24:04] <Sulla> for now
[20:24:10] <boru> Nonetheless, the intent is there.
[20:24:15] <boru> That's messed up.
[20:24:42] <Sulla> I dont understand why they have to keep pushing on normalizing this stuff
[20:25:51] <chromas> https://www.businessinsider.com
[20:25:52] <upstart> ^ 03Microsoft's Bing search engine reportedly had a child porn problem
[20:26:21] <boru> Back at the turn of the millenium, I was involved with some open research around circumventing 'Net censorship, and this was a common concern; vested parties poisoning the well with crap like child pornography or "extremist" websites to program people to vote against Internet privacy.
[20:26:22] <chromas> Softpedia, Technowize, the Mirror, TechCrunch
[20:27:02] <chromas> I recall rumors of a company poisoning p2p filesharing networks with cp, but I never 'came across' any
[20:27:36] <boru> Including some breadcrumbs back to private sector companies repsonsible for it, who were well know contractors for US and israeli goverment organisations.
[20:27:46] <chromas> Sulla: Why are you mentally-differently-abled shaming?
[20:27:48] <boru> France too, actually.
[20:28:32] <Sulla> Because its wrong
[20:28:34] <chromas> Maybe Azuma and aristarchus are fedbots
[20:28:58] <chromas> No freeze peach; only censor
[20:29:06] <Sulla> They seem legit in their ideas
[20:29:07] <boru> Then again, there are close ties between French and israeli intelligence, so it's not so much of a surprise.
[20:30:51] <boru> As much as I think aristarchus is a bellend, I doubt they're a fed.
[20:31:42] <boru> Azuma has very differing opinions to my own, but I don't think they're a fed either.
[20:32:01] <Sulla> I have been wondering whether or not DeathMonkey works for the DNC though. They seem to update their opinions based on what the latest DNC talking points are, at least since the 2016 election
[20:32:21] <boru> IME, feds lack situational awareness, and stick out like a sore thumb on the 'Net cf. rootkit.com etc.
[20:32:25] <Sulla> But their comments on tech and stuff are pretty good so I have doubted it
[20:32:48] <boru> Never assume malice where incompetence is most likely.
[20:33:00] <Sulla> 4chan is full of feds. Don't forget you are there forever. They come for the monitoring, stay for the trolling
[20:33:57] <boru> 4chan is a parody website.
[20:34:10] <Sulla> reeee
[20:35:06] <Sulla> Historically a bunch of angsty millenials being counter-cultural to troll
[20:35:44] <boru> I don't agree with that.
[20:36:22] <Sulla> What is your conclusion
[20:37:18] <boru> There are some enthusiast boards there which have a relatively high SNR e.g. /k/, but otherwise it's mostly just {mossad,reddit,stormfront} shitposting to the likes of /pol/ etc.
[20:38:55] <boru> You can't take it seriously.
[20:39:20] <Sulla> John Brennan said that Russian memes (that had been made by 4chan) swong 70k votes in key states during the election
[20:39:33] <Sulla> Former chief of cia took it seriously
[20:39:38] <boru> The site has a number of red flags.
[20:40:22] <Sulla> Though I don't really care to defend any o fit, as I pretty much only go to anime and diy
[20:40:31] <boru> e.g. how it uses google captchas, how it has black listed a number of proxy and vpns.
[20:40:44] <Sulla> true that
[20:41:14] <boru> Oh come on, don't be preposterous; as if the CIA would _ever_ publically state any website they had vested interest in.
[20:41:24] <boru> That is bonkers.
[20:42:52] <boru> The only possible motivation I could conceive for an announcement like that would be to herd users in a given direction to some other website.
[20:42:53] <Sulla> Maybe said that wrong. Was not saying the CIA said they had people there, was saying the CIA was concered about the effect the site had on the election. Which i was using to say "its more than just shtiposting"
[20:43:45] <boru> Please, as if abominations like the CIA would be concerned about anything of the sort, given their history.
[20:44:21] <boru> If anything, painting it in a given light would provide them with a launchpad for propaganda.
[20:45:10] <boru> I would say you are not sound of mind to take anything the CIA published publically as being anything remotely approaching truth.
[20:45:27] <Sulla> Thats reasonable
[20:47:14] <boru> I don't mean to sound like your sterotypical foreigner waffling about the CIA, fwiw, but their history hardly fortifies their position.
[20:48:54] <Sulla> No its valid
[20:49:09] <Sulla> it was also brennan saying it, who is the same one who lied about WMDs
[20:49:46] <boru> Well, I don't think the fault lies solely at his feet.
[20:50:15] <boru> i.e. Oded Yinon plan (1982), Hans Blitz's background etc.
[20:50:43] <boru> He was just a public figurehead.
[20:50:54] <boru> A sayanim.
[20:51:53] <boru> And also considering the French involvement there.
[20:52:20] <Sulla> I am aware of Mossad's bs, unaware of french involvement
[20:52:47] <boru> That involvement is a traditional one.
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